/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>back to anime
Good.

CRAZY

BABIES

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What's your powerlevel when you listen to music outside?

>>60317889

autism?

>>60317821
stop normalizing anime

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>>60317924
There is literally nothing wrong with anime.

>"you will need a really good dac/amp/combo/whatever snake oil shit to make ur hd650s sound good and loud enough"
>my cheap ur22 usb audio interface can drive them to such levels that will literally rip my eardrums out with no distortion whatsoever
>also have my monitors connected to it, all knobs in one place to change volume and don't need to touch fuck all in windows to switch between

yeah fuck you guys. also the hd650s sound absolutely incredible, i was prepared to get meme'd for a while there, i'm just wondering how they still haven't fixed this headband that seems like it will snap if i just look at them wrong

Fuck anime

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>>60318193
Where do you think you are?

>>60318061
Funny as while I find nothing wrong with the output quality of the UR22, it's definitely low on power. Same headphones, some equalization and higher dynamic range stuff just is too quiet.

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>>60318061
>i'm just wondering how they still haven't fixed this headband that seems like it will snap if i just look at them wrong

it doesn't, just treat them well

Investing in a headphone stand would be a good idea so you don't drop them, if you haven't already. I've got pic related coming in the mail for my HD 650

>>60318287
how can it possibly be too quiet? i'm not even coming close to 3/4 of the knob and i'm afraid of either hearing damage or the headphones blowing

are you sure you haven't fucked something up?

>>60318201
On a technology board, maybe (?)

>>60317821
Are those 650

>>60318201
Those Koss headphones always makes me thing of a helicopter pilot.

>>60318510
Looks like them.

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Comfyness.
That's all I really care about, as I use them 8+hrs to drown out the world.

Sony MDR-V6 + Auray Deluxe velour pads is my planned next purchase (to replace a not so comfortable Sony bluetooth MBR-1RBT). Any other comfy options?

>>60318563
so.. does it just kind of rest on your head or something, how is it comfy?

are sennheiser urbanite xl's (or the on ear variant if you have it) comfy to lay on your side in?

Any over-ear headphones that can be worn outside?

I have a question
If my fidelio x2's have an impedance of 32 ohms, and they're generally considered high tier headphones, then whats even the point of manufacturing ones with higher impedance? Why would I buy a 300+ dollar headphone that requires a good source and effectively can't be used portably or with a phone or laptop and needs the extra purchase of a expensive amp, when I could just buy a 100-300 dollar headphone with great sound that doesn't require anything extra and sounds great even out of a smartphone?

>>60318788
>they're generally considered high tier headphones
Guess again friendo

>>60318788
Some expensive headphones have low impedances. Look at the Focal Elear. Some cheap headphones have high impedances. DT-880 600ohm.

>>60319531
but I mean what difference does it even make? Shouldn't all manufacturers be shooting for as low an impedance as possible since generally a high one isn't necessary for high quality sound and its usually an inconvenience for the average person to have to use a more powerful source?

HE-400i at $225

http://www.ritzcamera.com/product/HE400I/hifiman-he-400i-planar-magnetic-headphones.htm

>Budget
100$ - 150$

>Location
North Carolina, USA

>Source
PC w/ no Sound Card

>Type
Over-Ear

>Open / Closed
Don't Care

>Sound Signature
Don't know. It's mainly going to be used for gaymen and loud music.

>Past Headphones
GS-4731. I liked the Over-Ear and the fact that the microphone was long. But I'm probably going to be using a Velcro Dot mic, so that shouldn't be a problem.

>>60319652
A good source will benefit all headphones, but a bad source will hurt some headphones more than others. For stuff like the HD800, the manufacturer assumes that if you're spending that much on a headphone, you will also have a DAC/amp so my guess is they just look at sound quality without really caring about impedance. Regardless, mobile devices are getting to the point where they can power harder to drive headphones. My HD600 works well and gets loud on my phone and tablet and sounds amazing from my laptop.

>>60318788
The only popular 'high tier' headphones with high impedance are Sennheiser's and Beyerdynamic headphones, altho beyers come with different impedance settings. For beyers I can imagine having high impedance is valid in the studio use to filter out all unwanted interferences/noise from electronics around, altho T1 is very efficient despite being 600 ohm. Sennheiser being one of the oldest, if not the oldest, headphone manufacturers just sticking to their guns, and you can use them with tube amps which gives them a certain edge among audiophiles, altho HD700 had no problems playing on my iPhone as far as loudness goes, didn't try it with amp tho.

>>60319753
HM5, SHP9500, 558, Custom Studio/DT770 80, CB-1

Are koss portapros any good for cheap headphones?

>>60319899
I'm currently using them for my morning commute to school and to sleep with. Ask me anything.

>>60319930
I've read that they're cheaply made and the wire breaks pretty easily, that true?
And im looking for something with enough bass so you can hear it, but not feel it all throughout your skull. Also can it be heard all around you? Like do people tell you your music is too loud and they can hear it?

>>60319930
Also is the limited edition with the adjustable volume worth it if you have that model?

>>60319987
>I've read they're cheaply made and the wire breaks pretty easily
The wire is pretty damn thin and absolutely see that being where a major breaking point can be though I've been pretty careful with it for the 3 months I've owned it for and so far is still intact.
>im looking for something with enough bass you can hear it
>>60319930

Yep it's definitely there though it's mostly midbass boom than subbass rumble
>can it be heard around you?
If you play it loud enough, yes it can though I've never had that problem as I don't really blast it. I've maybe had 1 person turn around hear my music on a loud track from maybe a meter away due to their technically open back design and they don't isolate very much
>Also is the limited edition with adjustable volume worth it if that's the model you have
$60 for an open back portable with no isolation with inline controls? Nope. I'm using the standard version and I'm satisfied with the $40 I paid for them plus they come with a Koss lifetime warranty.

>>60320204
Sounds good to me. Thanks man, breciate it.

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Hello /hpg/.

Is 'Hi Res Audio' a meme?

Should I have biught a wireless, NFC, bluetooth, chromecast capable pair with the option of wired for 50 dollars less instead of these glorious headphones?

How long does VE usually take to ship to the US when ordering direct?

I ordered my monks a week ago, got a tracking number, and there's been no activity since.
Have I been hoodwinked or am I just impatient?

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>Budget
Around $400

>Location
New Jersey, USA

>Source
Phone / Portable Gaming Devices

>Type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Not that important, but being comfortable would be nice.

>Sound signature
All around good sounds would be good. I plan on using it in public, most of the time.

Appreciate any kind of suggestion, lads.

>>60321220
Literally Oppo PM-3.

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>>60320204
>Koss lifetime warranty.
>mfw when I live in milwaukee so I abuse the shit out of their warranty

>>60321158
>hasnt arrived in a week
>from china
>to the US
>complaining

i have a bunch of hair ties i ordered from first half or March that hasnt arrived yet. stop your bitching.

shouldnt have voted for trump, huh?

>>60321522
You lucky motherfucker. Seriously though, that's pretty neat. I'm actually going to replace them with Superlux HD 562's pretty soon once I sell my drawing tablet that I used for a week then put back in the box.

>>60321673
Honestly the best part of being close to them isn't the warranty but rather that they have every headphone they make set up for you to try with your own music.

Mates, is Sennheiser HD650 still a good purchase or is there a better, more updated alternative?

>>60321553
I'm not expecting it to arrive in a week, but I figured it'd have shipped at least.

>>60321713
That's actually pretty cool of them. I kinda wish they brought back some of their discontinued headphones like the SST Series and PortaPro Jr's.

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>>60317821
Comfiest sound sig reporting in

>>60321799
It's an excellent purchase, HD600 is the more recommended option as it's more neutral but some prefer the HD650 for its darker and less fatiguing tone.

>>60321799
HD600 is better and cheaper

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>>60317821
That picture is a great example of how I feel right now.
I'm sure none of you actually like your headphones you just like talking about them but if you take a break from your good ones for a while then come back it's such an incredible feeling.
I've been stuck on my IEMs for the last 2 weeks because I've been so busy but I just got a few hours of listening in tonight on my full size open back headphones and god the music just sounds so good.
Do your headphones make you happy, anon?

>>60322597
once you get the HD650 like the girl in the op so you stop caring about the shitflinging autism over headphones and just listen to your music in bliss

Fuck anime
Fuck Z-Reviews

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>>60322606
I don't want to argue. If I could afford another expensive set of headphones it would be the 650s but I love treble so I'm happy with what I have.
Need those female vocals to reach high and embolden my soul, u feel nigga?

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is this a good pair of headphones? they're $70

https://www.amazon.com/Skullcandy-Bluetooth-Wireless-Headphones-Black/dp/B00NCSIN4W/ref=vsbg_hdphn_695064_sr/147-4018060-0743707?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1494477572&sr=1-22&th=1

i'm looking for a nice paiir of bluetooth headphones because my laptop audio jack is broken. open to suggestions :)

>>60322634
i used to think that before i got the 650s.

the 'veil' meme is a meme, there's no lost detail anywhere, vocals are more present and high notes are less irritatingly sharp. it's like beyers have oversharpen filters over everything that makes you think it looks better because it isn't as blurry but it's not accurate to the source

>>60322642
It's hard to know if you're serious but wireless headphones tend to be expensive and the sound quality tends to be lacking. They will serve their purpose but if you got something like a philips shp from newegg for less money the sound would be way better. For portable use any armeture IEM at $70 is going to sound better.
For what they are, cheap wireless headphones, I am sure they function just fine.

>>60318788
Studio headphones had high impedance because theyd get put into interfaces that output to multiple headphones at the same time as a whole team simultaneously listened to something. It also allowed them to be inserted into all sorts of inputs with no issue.

Audiofools confuse the correlation of high quality audio equipment and high impedance and assume that one causes the other. The market plays on these expectations and gets these idiots to buy amps and DACs, even though impedance doesnt necessarily determine how hard to drive a pair of headphones is.
They make up reasons like impedance roll off or whatever but its all bullshit. Higher impedance will not improve audio quality.

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>>60322665
yes i'm serious, i'm still looking on amazon. i'll fill out a template

>Budget
flexible around $70

>Location
usa
>Source
bluetooth because my laptop audio jack is broken
>Type of headphone
i don't care
>Open or closed
doesn't matter
>Comfort level
over nine thousand!!!!! no it doesnt entirely matter

>>60321843
Venture are a bunch of scammers who will take their sweet time shipping to you. Just hope your order isnt messed up, if they actually send it.

>>60322642
Get a USB soundcard

>>60322719
>Sound signature

>>60322719
What if you did something like
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16829128011
plus
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826138190&cm_re=over_ear_headphone-_-26-138-190-_-Product

We're talking at least twice the sound quality and comfort of the skullcandy you linked.

>>60322762
>USB soundcard
thanks fox. do a barrel roll lol XD

>>60322752
This seems surprising given how popular they are.

>>60322719
"How urgently do you need it" should be added to this, tbqhfamdesu

>>60322793
>comfort
>all those dangling cords

honestly, if anon wants a bluetooth headphones, he's obviously not a muh audiophile faglord.

>>60322793
Something like this is the solution, but you could get a cheap mpow Bluetooth receiver instead.

Status CB-1 if you want closed.

I have two headsets.
1. Steelseries Siberia V2
2. Beyerdynamic DT770 80 ohm (cost three times more than the Siberia).

But I have no amplifier...
Tbh, the siberia have a more muddy, comfortable and stronger bass and kick.
Also, DT770's treble is too high.

I don't have the money to buy an amplifier for headphones right now.

How can the Siberia have better sound quality???? am I simply just crazy? are my ears dead?

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>>60322793
i'm thinking this will do. i looked up reviews for cheap as hell sound cards on amazon and was instantly discouraged. spending 30 on a sound card isn't high on my to do list, but if i have to in order to listen to my hare guu episodes in peace i will spend it. i'm looking into all of these things, the Philips SHP9500S looks nice i suppose

>>60322879
http://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_hearingtestaudiogram.php

My hearing is surprisingly good considering I've been using headphones so much since I was a kid.

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>>60317821
Just replaced my HD 650 pads. Holy shit I didn't realize the head pad was so dead; I had to extend the headband 6 clicks.
>>60321799
It's still great.
>>60322175
>>60322606
(you)
>>60322663
This. Avoided Sennheiser for a long time because of veilmongers and how shit the HD 202 and HD 280 are.

>>60322879
>the siberia have more muddy-
Say no more senpai, you're crazy. Try installing Equalizer APO with Peace GUI and toning down the treble on the DT770's. Get used to the 770's by using them for a week or two exclusively then try switching back to the Siberia's. What you're saying reminds me of when I switched from Skullcandy Hesh2's to Superlux HD 681's.

>>60322972
>(you)
?

Also how come you opted for the HD600 headband over the HD650 one? Doesn't look as comfy and doesn't fit as well on stands

>>60322994
The 650 one was out of stock and slightly more expensive.

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My earbuds just broke and I'm looking for new ones. Which would you guys reccomend that last long and are decent quality?

I need a headphone thats comfy to lay on your side in
I'm looking at the v moda m100 and Sennheiser urbanite xl, would either of those be good?

>>60323084
The xl's are on ear and v-modas are infamous for being uncomfortable

>>60323084
You mean like on a pillow? How could that possibly be comfortable with headphones on? Get some cheap speakers.

>>60323084
I've been pretty comfy with PortaPros in bed, It'd probably be comfier with KCS75's.

>>60323084
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G97432O//ref=cm_sw_su_dp?tag=duiwath-20

>>60322796
Please be my /hpg/f

>>60322892
All you need is the $7 syba usb sound card.

>>60318312
I have every digital volume set to max. I use equalization which yields around a - 6dB cut on midrange loudness. This coupled with higher dynamic range content(classical, movies, some games) actually makes me turn the volume knob all the way up.

>>60323084
Just EQ these
http://s.aliexpress.com/FRfyAv6j

What's the consensus on the monolith m1060? Are they a meme or are they worth their salt?

>>60324331
Amazingly bad implementation

Would I come off as too much of a hipster if I got an AK70 or XDP-100R?

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Just bought $700 in new headphone shit. Can't wait for it to arrive so it can sit on my desk barely getting used. I totally need this stuff in order to get that last bit of performance out of my audiobooks and decade old Flash files.

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>>60324291
>syba usb sound card
thank you so much!!!

>>60324396
>I said exact change only

my akg k701 headphones started dying, any suggestions on what to replace them with?

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>>60317821
>tascam th02
>sennheiser 202
>monoprice Hi-Fi DJ style
I need a new beater pair , which one?

>>60324331
too much wrong with them, mod some mk3's or save for some lcd-2's

Had ordered hd 558 for vr gaming and music with source from decent mobo or creative sound blaster z which i plan to buy but they just called me that they're out of stock and told me they have the hd 559 for cheaper (12euros cheaper) should i get those instead i was planing to do a trick an anon from last thread recommended that improves their sound staging. From the store they tell me the hd 559 are the new 558s model and sound better but i'm not sure. Should i just order the 558s again from another store for 15~ euros more or just get the 559s for less?.

>>60322175
Still not as comfy as HD600.

HD600 is the best of the two, that much is pretty much universally understood.

>>60322634
If you like idols (nico pic related), HD600 is where it's at. Godlike female vocals.

>Budget
around 100€

>Location
EU

>Source
dedicated music player w/ amp

>Type of headphone
on-ear, PORTABLE (important)

>Open or closed
preferably closed, but I can deal with open

>Comfort level
I'd be wearing them for hours at a time

>Sound signature
neutral, maybe mid-centric

>Past headphones
AKG 480, they sounded too muddy, like they were playing through a pillow


I've been eyeing the major IIs because they fit basically every criteria, but I'm worried they're just a normie meme like beats

>>60325431
Help me hpg i got to call them to change the order today.

any website to specifically look for headphones at?

Or It doesn't matter where I buy them?

Anyone here a vocal editor? Just started cleaning clicks and such and didn't always want to use headphones (MDR-7506). How are the Rokit 5s for my need?

I think it's amusing that /hpg/ sucks the HD600's dick constantly now when they were considered junk 3 years ago. How times change...

>>60326246
They are junk, it's just that now delusional idolfags go around proclaiming that they're the best while listening to shitty sibilant recordings with garbage mastering.

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Is this good enough for 250ohm headphones?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/YAMAHA-YDA138-E-Digital-Stereo-Audio-Amplifier-Board-2-20W-headphone-AMP-12V/32570317022.html

>>60326438
Gain is too high for headphone use. It also doesn't come with a power supply...

>>60326517
I have a 12v power supply i can hook it upto.

>>60323081
help anyone?

Hello /g/. I need headphones.

>max. 100€
>Germany
>Plugging them into my phone or an MP3 player
>Full-sized (over-ear)
>Closed
>Very comfortable
>Neutral sound signature
>Only used cheap IEMs in the past

>>60322972
>how shit the HD 202 and HD 280 are.
I've had HD202s for a while and I'd say they're pretty good for the price. What problems did you have with lower end sennheisers?

>>60325431
3 hours to change order *_* wat do, google doesn't compare me 558 and 559 is 559 just the same headphone just a new model of 558?

Are the Bose QuietComfort 35 headphones good or just marketing blip?

>>60324781
K702, HD600/650, DT880 if you want the same or similar sound.

i know this isn't the thread and i don't want to be a dick, but i'm looking for a decent, minimal spending, mouse for pc. any suggestions :)?

>>60326692
CB-1, Somic MM185

>>60325635
bump

>>60326557
This project is generally better. I assume you can DIY a bit since you were looking for a kit in the first place.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ZEROZONE-Finshed-Ver-JLH-Class-A-1969-Headphone-amplifier-PRE-AMP-board/32781620061.html

>>60326794
When I first tried the HD 202, the AD700 was my main headphones so it just sounded really muddy and awful to me. Looking at measurements now, it's hard to say the HD 202 is good, though I guess it can be argued it's good for the price.

The HD 280 is just strange and awkward sounding because of the large dip right in the mid-bass. It's like you can feel the bass but can't actually hear it.

>>60326246
>>60326388
HD600 beats your meme tier audiofool headphones like HD800, SR-009 at a fraction of the cost.

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Guys need some help, thinking of getting pic related with an SMSL mini 3 for games, music and films. Mainly music. Any advice on what i could do to better this setup because i'm really wanting it now

>>60327614
From what I heard so far, HD559 is worse. They deliberately gimped it.

Hey /hpg/, I'm looking for some new headphones. So far I've only had cheap ones, my favourite being a pair of Superlux 668b's. I'm looking for some headphones that'll give me the feeling of quality headphones that'll last me quite a while.
>Budget
€300, although I wouldn't mind to spend more to get a better deal.
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
On my computer through a Roland UA-55, or some chink DAP (waiting on a Zishan Z1 at the moment).
>Type of headphone
Full size.
>Open or closed
Preferably open.
>Comfort level
Equal or better than the 668b.
>Sound signature
Neutral or bright.
>Past headphones
668b, some <€30 Philips headphones.

>>60328552
>€300
HD600 hands off. It's the headphone you need. The only one you'll ever need.

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>he doesn't listen his music through speakers on medium to max volume at home

Don't tell me fags you don't own your own apartment

>>60328631
Good luck at finding a proper speaker system that can reach the same fidelity as a HD600

Want some cheap ear buds to leave at work.
Are the Monks worth the hype or a meme?

>>60328631
>plays obnoxiously loud music in very close proximity to 2-4 different neighbours
yea we're the fags

>>60328364
Jokes on you, I equalize my $10 Walmart shitphones to sound like HD800s

>>60317889
I don't listen to music outside. I don't go outside.

talk me out of a schiit stack and some dt990s

>>60329173
Fulla2 should work fine with most headphones and DT990 is treble rape for some people.

>>60325479
650 is warmer and thus more comfy
>>60329173
Fx audio Dac-x3 is all you need.

>>60318657
Momentum 2 over ears my friend.

>Budget
$100-$150

>Location
Singapore

>Source
My PC

>Type of headphone
Closed

>Comfort level
Maximum level

>Sound signature
No preference

>Past headphones
nada

Basically I just want a comfy headphones to listen to music and watch movies at an affordable price

>>60328411
someone help pls need to know if it's 200 bongs well spent

Sennheiser momentum in-ear or SE215?
Which one is better for a wide variety of content? Like podcasts, music, movies, videos.

>>60318657
Creative Aurvana Live

Looking to upgrade my hd598s. Anyone care to suggest a few pairs that are considered the next level up? Will probably get an amp as well

>>60329450
Somic MM185/Status CB-1, XPT100/HM5, DT770 80/Custom Studio

>>60329623
what do you think of hd598 cs?

>>60329454
Dt880 is better

>>60329891
Shitty implemintation of the 380Pro drivers that come off as an awkward set of bassy/dark set of headphones and has nothing to do with the 598's besides the name.

>>60318563
HD650 is the most comfortable I've worn. And the HyperX Cloud Headset which actually has pretty ok sound.

>>60325479
trying way too hard to force your shitty opinions

>>60317821
Anyone fucked around with putting new headphones in broken pair's shell if it's one you find particularly comfortable?

I've ordered a pair of those meme superlux 668b's and I'm tempted to stuff them inside my old busted shell of DT990's since they seem around the same size.

>>60330346
I mean if you have the funds to get a new pair of 668B's and don't mind fucking up somewhere along the way, go for it.

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>>60329614
HD598 are endgame, just EQ them.
If you really have to buy more headphones buy something with a gimmick like wireless.

>>60317821
Someone from /adv/ directed me here

>sick of cheap ass earphones breaking so decided to get headphones
>being a filthy casual, I've only heard of beats
>get beats
>find that they're uncomfortable
>google comfy alternative because I'm a pussy
>find old thread on reddit recommending beyerdynamic dt 770
>get 80 ohm version because pads
>comfy needs are met but they don't sound as loud
>find that dt770 is better with amp
Here's where being clueless comes in. What do you plug an amp into? What are you using to play music through your amp to your headphones? My phone is my source of music. Willing to use different source though. Don't know shit about amps. About to get a laptop. Will an amp work with that?

>>60330799
Just get $10 Walmart shitphones and eq them to sound like the hd800

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Did i fuck up?
I needed a new setup because my onboard soundcard doesn't work anymore. My last headphones were some cheap AKG K511 which i had for several years until the pads began to fall apart

>>60331446
Keep posting pictures and give up your initial impressions

>>60330919
You might want a portable amp for both devices so you're versatile with your phone and laptop like a FiiO Q1. It can be charged or be used on a PC via USB and used on a phone phone with 2 short male to male 3.5mm cords on its internal battery.

Best sub $100 in ear monitors that don't wrap over and above the ear? All of my headphones are broken and I need something to tide me over till I can get some hd650s. Also would like in ear monitors for running and traveling.

>>60331446
nigga you have the product in front of your face. Do a unboxing for us and tell us if you think you fucked up or not.

>>60330919
You sound like a retard who is throws money at shit without doing research

You likely won't need an amp for your laptop as it will have more power than your phone

Spend 15 minutes googling and reading about headphone amps and DACs. You don't really need to know about DACs but it'll help you understand the products you're looking at. Then come back and ask for more difficult purchase advice

>>60332007
> difficult purchase advice
specific*

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Are matched tubes snake oil or are they worth it? The tubes that came with my amp produce a channel imbalance.
>"'matched": $20
>regular: $5

>>60330919
My phone powers my 770-250 fine. Are you retarded or deaf?

Which one Akg K712 por HD600?

>>60332581
I've bought unmatched tubes that worked just fine together, and two sets of matched tubes that couldn't be interchanged, so I think it might be a dice roll. I've heard power tubes definitely need to be matched though, although I'm not sure if it's true.

>>60332581
Tubes are either old ass nos or produced in 3rd world shitholes and vary wildly to spec. Generally speaking you'd want tubes from the same factory and same batch to minimize differences to avoid problems like you experienced. Price difference can be attributed to the seller having to track down "matching" sets and they know people will pay for it.

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sup fellas

I have a Superlux HD668b which I have been using for half a year with the original pads. I got fed up with them and ordered a pair of velour replacements from AliExpress. I installed them and while my headphones are now very comfortable. they sound too harsh to my ears. Certain snare drums now even make my ears hurt a bit.. Did I fuck up? I was told it would """""open up the sound"""""". Luckily it was only $4 but I expected something better.

>>60318061
a few remarks:

1. regarding DACs, they are a gigantic meme BUT it's often the case that the line out is improperly shielded or similar. a $5 chip is good enough but you have to get that result out of the DAC without mangling it. this is one of the main reasons laptop sound sucks, it's not the chip

2. regarding amps, the relationship between power and volume is not direct, because lower frequencies require more power to achieve the same perceived volume. if your amp is underpowered you will experience faster low-freq rolloff. another way to think about it is that the power draw is not stable with respect to the volume, it varies with the frequency composition of the track

to be clear i 100% believe you got good sound out of hd650s and a cheap dac/amp combo

>>60332679
k712 if you actually like fun.

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>>60331715
>>60331997
I couldn't get enough light into my room for a decent pic but this should do.
The Olympus amp might have been a bit overkill but the i like the further customisation with the low/high gain switch and bass boost switch on the hardware itself. As for the MDR-7506 i used them on my phone and as intended on my pc. Without the amp on the phone they don't sound as rich but that should be obvious. They fit pretty good without much pressure and are definitely keeping most of the surrounding sounds like mouseclicks and whatnot out. Friendly reminder that i don't have anything in that price range to compare and so i can't give a valuable opinion on the soundrange but they sound nice, like a miniature theatre room when you turn on the bass boost.
After all im amazed by the quality and the setup was working right away without any additional proprietary software.

>>60329614
i mean if you like sennheiser the obvious suggestions are hd600 and hd650

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>>60332992
>non-detachable cable

>>60332581
>Are matched tubes snake oil or are they worth it?

You literally have to match them so they can work properly in the circuit. Heck, one has to do the same with modern transistors like BJT, JFET or MOSFET.

>>60332714
>>60332741
Thanks, I'll think about it.
>>60333138
What do you mean? No two tubes are the same, so some audio shops match tubes to prevent channel imbalance. Yes, obviously the model will be the same.

Is investing in tubes worth it? I'm willing to spend $5000 to buy out the GEs. I'd be desperate if one of my tubes died and there were no replacements.

>>60320360
>Is 'Hi Res Audio' a meme?
Yes. Completely useless for listening purposes. Easy digestion:
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

>>60328631
What's medium to max volume in absolute terms?

>>60332641
>My phone
And there's your answer. On your phone and on your criteria. You're not helping.

>>60332679
Why those two? What do you want? Someone else's personal opinion?

>>60318061
>you will need a really good dac/amp/combo/whatever snake oil shit to make ur hd650s sound good
That kind of ideas on amplifiers and especially DACs doesn't persist here. Unfortunately it's extremely common in almost all audio communities.

>>60332992
I'm in the same boat, my sound card took a shit and I'm not looking to drive anything better than a pair of HD598s.
Is the E10 the standard for sub-$100 DACs? Are there any others I should consider?

>>60333582
There is no way the headphones aren't loud enough if my 250s sound just fine. Sure, bass is weaker than my desktop amplifier, but it gets loud enough and sounds just fine.

>>60332755
I don't know how you stood the stock pads that long.
The treble is harsh with with either.

Get equalizer apo and the Peace GUI and tame the highs.

Recently got a Schiit stack and some headphones from my brother.

Is it supposed to be so loud? If I have my computer sound on 50 (win 7) I can rotate the volume knob a quarter or maybe a third of the way before it becomes unbearably loud. Aren't you damaging your ears with the volume?

Both with Sennheiser DT990 600Ohm, AKG k702 and my pair of Fidelio X2.


Am I missing a setting in the OS or some shit or am I just a pansy? Are you supposed to get "audiophile" quality straight out of the box in Windows/Linux/etc? I've got some Realtek soundshit from my mobo.


TL;DR I'm a bitch and can't handle the knob correctly

>>60334592
Throw windows to 100 and let the knob control your volume. Listen to your music at a volume that's comfortably quiet. I'm 18 and because I used to listen to my music really loud with IEM's, I randomly get ringing in my ear for 10 seconds at any given time though it's been helping to keep my volume relatively low to keep my hearing from damaging any further.

>>60325431
>>60327614
I'm the guy that recommended the HD 558 and foam mod to you. I hope you cancelled that order and ordered the 558 from somewhere else.

>>60334678
>tfw now using a three-four millimetre twist on the knob

I thought I was using the "HI" setting on the back of the Magni but it's already set on "LO".

An AMP must be completely wasted on my ears desu.

>Budget
$100
>Location
Miami FL
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone

Over ear

>Comfort level

Really important could be using it at least 4 hours a day.
>Sound signature

Good bass, nothing overpowering, good listening to music but also for studying.
>Past headphones

>Beats by Dre.

>>60334744
Throw that bitch back to Windows 50 I suppose. Though seriously, keep the volume at a comfortable level and try not to crank it too loud.

>>60334785
HM5/CB-1

>>60333618
E10 or Fulla2.

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>>60334592
Pro-Tip; don't turn it up so loud. You'll be able to enjoy music for many years if you do it that way.

On my Jotunheim this is as high as I'm willing to put my HD 800S, it's loud enough

>>60334744
Use Equalizer APO with the Peace GUI and can use preamplification.
That'll lower the volume and you'll still have plenty of headroom.

As far as the sound, the amp wont make it drastically better unless your original source sucked.

And keep the volume down, your hearing isn't worth risking.

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>>60335031
Look at this shit. Keke
I could go a bit higher but it's the middle of the night and I'm not interested in harsh sounds right now.

>>60335102
I'll check it out, thanks. I'm just sort of surprised over how much you can actually crank the volume but I suppose it doesn't imply they intended for those sort of volumes. Still, I'm at like a 15% turn at the most so I figured I'd atleast ask if it was the setup or my own ears being sensitive.


Watch as the photo goes upsidedown.

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Got the K712 today. Love them so far. They have by far the best price-performance ratio of all headphones i listened to.

The only point i don't like about it is that my outer ear touches the inside of the cans a bit.
The inside is curved from the foam underneath the cloth (i tried to draw it), removing that would probably be enough. Can i remove it without fucking anything up or does the foam in there serve any purpose like dampening vibrations or something?

Oh and it looks so goddamn hideous. Why couldn't they use the red from the K7xx of just leave it black or whatever, just not orange?

>>60335349
>Can i remove it without fucking anything up or does the foam in there serve any purpose like dampening vibrations or something?
You can remove foam without fucking anything. AKG pads are easy to remove, just twist. You can try it, but I'm pretty sure it will affect sound, probably for worse. Headphones are very sensitive for changes like that.

>Got the K712 today. Love them so far. They have by far the best price-performance ratio of all headphones i listened to.
I have no idea how did you come to this conclusion. k612 pro and k7xx are best value AKG headphones. But either way glad you are enjoying your headphones.

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/mu/sician here.... is this the endgame?

>>60335443
>mudheisers

no

>>60335450
what do you recommend then, plebbitard?

Any suggestions for a DAC/Amp combo to go along with my 250 ohm DT 880s?

I live in the UK so keep in mind that anything from Schiit costs a fair bit more than in the US

>>60335462
anything from a real company like akg or ((( beyerdynamic )))

>>60335493
LMAO... you're recommending utter shit. please don't recommend people anything again. you're a total baka or a troll and should go back to plebbit.

>>60335531
hi sennshill

>>60317821
Klipsch X10's masterrace

bought em for $80 6 years ago

still sound perfect

>>60335429
Thanks for the twist tip, didn't think it would be so easy. I expected something like the Beyer system where remove pads = almost rip apart your headphones.
And sadly you were right, it completely fucks up the sound.
For the best value: i only took those into account that i've listened to personally.

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>>60328185
thanks

>Budget
200-300

>Location
Canada

>Source
USB DAC

>Type of headphone
full sized

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
Comfy enough to wear 12h+ straight

>Sound signature
Neutral

>Past headphones
K702

Are the AKG 702s significantly worse than the HD 650?
I just want to experience s o u n s s t a g e

>>60330919
>Someone from /adv/ directed me here
that was me :)

For $100 Budget, what do you guys suggest?
Want it to be Okay for gaming and music, but i'm not that sound-adicted (thats why i'm up to pay at max $100....)

>>60336354
M50x

>>60336394
$100........

>>60336204
702>>>650 in soundstage
>>60336354
HM5

>>60336434
Oh sorry. I meant Headset.

So:
For $100 Budget for a HEADSET, what do you guys suggest?
Want it to be Okay for gaming and music, but i'm not that sound-adicted (thats why i'm up to pay at max $100....)

>>60336426
Remembered them cheaper...
Still worth looking for a used pair anyway

>>60336481
SHP9500 + Vmoda BoomPro

Recently bought some dt880 600 ohms. They are definitly less comfortable than hd600s, because the headband is way too short / doesn't pull out far enough. Also, how long does it take to adjust to bright headphones? They are a bit tiring.

>>60335479
http://www.headnhifi.com/amplifiers/desktop-headphone-amplifiers/OBJ_O2_ODAC_digital2

>>60336605
>falling for the beyerhiss memes

>>60323084
>The xl's are on ear
wrong

>>60336354
CB-1

>>60336481
Either of these with a boom pro or any cheap mic.
>>60337015
>>60336523
If you can't unautist yourself, HyperX Cloud is the only headset worth getting.

>>60337052
If he's dedicated to a microphone stuck to his headphones, let him get whatever he wants desu. Either way he's shooting himself in the foot restricting himself with gamer marketed headsets.

>>60336883
uh, dude, that's not what Anon said.

>>60323084
M100 + V-Moda XL pads for extra comfort, but you still can't lay your head on the side and on top of it, don't know any headphone that's comfortable for that.

>>60332679
HD600 is better. K712 is muddy as hell.
>>60335443
Yes, sadly. I'm no shill but the HD600 is objectively the best headphone that money can buy. Really shitty hobby we've got when some 90s headphone beats all the new kids on the block.
>>60335923
HD600.
>>60336204
Yes it's significantly worse but it makes a great alternative to the HD650.
>>60336605
I think the DT880s are more comfortable since it's roomier but the sound signature is shit.

>>60323084
>>60324304
I can't believe this exists, but I feel like it'd be your best.

Otherwise I'd get some kind earbuds like the VE Monks.
I feel like any over ear headphones would be crazy uncomfortable and IEM's could be unsafe for your hearing.

>>60335197
>adapter in socket to switch off the preouts
Clever

>>60337424
>muddy as hell
>significantly worse
>the sound signature is shit.
Speaking of exagerations...

Are the Superlux 660s treble cannons the the DT770s?

I just order a AKG K550.
Is this nice for its price as a closed headphone?
The most expensive headphone I had is a 60$ one, so I guess it'll defintely be better.
I mainly use headphone for hentai ASMR.

>Budget
up to 250 €

>Location
Germany

>Source
Desktop PC

>Type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Don't know

>Comfort level
My fucking jaw hurts with the current headset. HIGH

>Sound signature
Neutral?

>Past headphones
Sennheiser PC320, Sennheiser PC 131, SteelSeries Siberia v2 (worst of all). They all hurt.

BTW: Any good and cheaper alternatives to the AntLion mod mic?

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It's finally happening - I'm getting audio dropout in one ear of my ancient pair of Sony MDR-XD200s.

They were tough bastards. Saw me through high school, college, moving halfway across the world and back again, got knocked around a hell of a lot, and they're only now starting to give up the ghost. I can't even remember when I bought them, but they've lasted at least 15 years. Not bad at all for a 'the first thing uninformed teenage me saw when I walked into Best Buy" purchase.

The time has come for a new pair, so I'm gonna be lurking in here and trying to figure out what to replace them with. This isn't really a recs request though (although if someone wants to make a top 5 list of most comfortable sub-$150 over-ear pairs I would thank you for it). I mainly wanted to make this small text tribute to the shitty basic headphones that ended up not being shitty after all.

>>60334736
Fuuuuck, i ordered the hd 559, i can cancel it hopefully but are the hd 559 that much worse? I'm getting them for 109€ while the 558 were 120€

>>60338699
If you want something that will last you more than 15 years get the DT770 Pro 80 ohm limited edition.

It's also pretty fucking comfortable.

Thank me later, oldfag.

>>60338749
This, but get the 250 ohm. 80 are a reddit meme. I've had mine for five years so far.

>>60338699
Another pair of Sonys. MDR7506

>>60338909
Not this.

The 80 ohm has a straight cable and the limited edition comes with the black velours. The lower impedance model works better on devices that don't use an external amplifier because of voltage limitations.

Also the price is over $150 but it will drop back down eventually.

Noob question here, how do I download YouTube videos without losing as much quality as possible? Should I just download the video as FLAC?

>>60338749
>>60338909
Thanks to both of you.

Care to tell me why I'd want the 250 over the 80, or vice-versa (and either over the 32)? I'd only be using it for watching TV/films/anime on my PC, listening to my MP3 player while biking, and sometimes vidya FYI. I'm also seeing that I'd need an amp for the 250, which I have no experience using.

>>60338927
>HURRRRR 250 OHMS HARD TO DRIVE
When will the impedance meme just die already?

>>60338909
>>60338918
>>60338927
>>60338975
Whoop, I see that you just did. I appreciate it; this is a very new world to me.

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>>60338741
Just cancel it before it ships. I think you'd be happier with the 558.

Amazon actually lists the HD 579 as being the "new" model of the HD 558 for me. I don't know if that's correct or not, but that place you ordered from might have just been trying to talk you into the 559 because they didn't have the 558 stocked.

>>60322175
Why does everything on Massdrop have to be some random-ass color? I kind of want a set of these, but navy just isn't my thing. Not that the originals look any better (though the 650s beat the nasty speckled paint job on the 600s).

>>60339064
They more or less look black until you really look close at them or shine a light on them.

>>60338978
I never said that, retard.
>>60338975
The 250 doesn't specifically need an amp, it's just that impedance can be confusing to explain to newbies. But even so, it won't be very loud on portable devices because of the lower voltage, as opposed to a desktop PC or something else. The 80 ohm is a good middle-ground, and they all sound the same anyway.

The 250 ohm uses a coiled cable, the 80 ohm has a straight cable, the 32 ohm doesn't come with velour earpads. Personally I recommend the 80 ohm limited edition as the black velours keep their appearance longer, the regular velours get yellow over time.

If you're buying the DT770 wait for a price drop.

https://camelcamelcamel.com/beyerdynamic-DT-770-Pro-Black/product/B01ERLN180

>>60338393
If you can get a consistent seal, they're not bad. They're the weird in between in my opinion of the M50X and DT770. With a good seal, they're V-Shaped; without a good seal, they're very bass light and come ofd bright.

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>>60338988
What did I do? Also don't listen to the 770 memers, get the Sonys.

>>60339123
>biking with a coiled cable

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>>60339153
Where did he say he was biking?
And:
>wearing heaphones
>while biking

>>60339185
Scroll up, kiddo.

>>60338975
I hope you become a vegetable for biking with no crash helmet

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What are the best cheap on-ears like pic related that are $15 or less?

>>60339774
JVC Flats or KSC75

>Budget
$100~200
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop, phone
>Type of headphone
full-sized, over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
don't care
>sound-signature
bassy

All I want are some good headphones I can put on and get lost in the music without the people around me hearing a peep of it. I spend a lot of time in the library and quiet areas listening to music. I've tried figuring it out for myself but honestly it's so difficult figuring out where to find information on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking the time.

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can anyone with a dt-770 take a photo of the cable location that goes under the headband

>>60328745
>people actually think this.
A set of lsr305s sound better positioned right.
You need to stop sennshill.

>>60339990
This, LSR305 shit all over the HD600

>>60339910
380 Pro

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>LSR305 are flatter and have the same, if not better bass extension than the HD600
Speakers > Headphones and a pair of speakers that go as low as $200/pair are better than any headphone ever made in history.

Really makes you think.

>>60317821
right now im using the k7xx and se215, what should i get next? something under $300 headphones or iem are fine. just want an upgrade.

When will this shill leave. It's a good headphone no doubt it ain't perfect for everything especially making terrible accusations like the no speaker being better fucking kek.

>>60340029
there are fundamental, physical reasons why a speaker system with mixed radius drivers should seriously outperform headphones, i'm surprised anyone would question that

>>60340073
>i'm surprised anyone would question that
Unfortunately people like that exist.

>>60327853

Neither of these are available in Germany. I also forgot to mention that I have big ears, so smaller headphones aren't going to cover them.

>>60340192
Maybe HM5's/XPT100's though they're also bulkier

>>60330346
i bought a busted SE 300 and plan on using it for a harman kardon CL.

Looking to upgrade my Schiit stack for driving my TH-X00s and I'm looking at the Schiit Jotunheim, yay or nay?

>>60340683
Shouldn't a Schiit stack be good enough for that? Are they the non-Uber ones?

>>60339185

I actually bought a pair of those "bone conducting sport headphones" so I could listen to music while I was doing solo road rides. They barely block road noise but you can still hear them quite well.

>>60340714

Non-uber, I'm finding the bass isn't that impressive and googling has found me people saying that it's known for the brights and highs and kinda meh bass

>>60340735
It's a fucking amplifier, it doesn't exhibit things like "bright highs" and "meh bass" unless it is physically broken

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Are the DT1990s somehow worth $600?

Is it better to buy one set of expensive headphones that do a good job across the board, or several cheaper sets for different purposes? Because for the price of the DT1990s, I could get a set of HD600/650s, and something else to complement them like K712s.

>>60340809
The DT880 are the only acceptable openback headphone from Beyerdynamic. The DT1990, Amiron Home and DT1770 are all terrible.

>>60339990
>>60340006
But the subbass is better on the HD600.

Literally no subbass @ lsr305.

>>60340895
>HD600
>subbass
Just how delusional can you be?

After much autism, I got to 4 options:

M50X, Status CB-1 (By lurking here)
Sennheiser Urbanite XL, Sony MDR-100AAP (By friend's suggestion)

>Budget
$100-160
>Location
Mexico
>Source
Lap
>Type of headphone
Full, over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
The comfier, the better. Using them for long periods (5 hore more hours), but willing to sacrifice for better sound
>Sound signature
Bassy or warm
>Past headphones
Cheap Sony ones

I would like it to leak the less possible
I mostly listen to dreamy music, if that helps

I just got Sennheiser PX-200 IIs because they were recommended to me from multiple people. Maybe I have a fat head but they don't feel comfortable after 2ish hours. Are there other headphones out there with a small form factor and similar quality?

>>60340735
It's flat as an ironing board. That's the whole point.

Schiit targets transparency. Any amp that isn't garbage does, too.

>>60340820
Interesting, because a lot of people have said good things about the DT1990 (and to a lesser extent the Amiron).

>>60340896
See lsr305's low frequency cutoff.

Hint: It's not 20Hz.

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>>60340923
HD600's subbass is non-existant below 50Hz and the LSR305 extend to 45Hz, the 308 go to ~42Hz

>>60340912
Don't believe everything you read on head-fi, theyy will hype anything. I'm sure they said the DT1990 and Amiron are warm and don't have sharp treble like every other Beyer on the market. Proptip and pic related, they do.

>>60340947
Zeos says the DT1990s are good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-18wp68JHHs

>>60340967
>Zeos
(You)

>>60340977
Sorry, I'm newish to high end headphones. Is he not respected as a reviewer? Who is?

>>60341033
Subjective opinions are meaningless, learn how to interpret measurements and find sources for measurements with good equipment.

So are Skullcandy wireless Crushers the most bassy affordable headphones of all time? I tried them today and it feels like you have a large sub strapped to each ear seriously considering buying.

>>60341040
Can you measure qualities like soundstage though?

>>60341108
Soundstage does not exist in headphones, it is a term to describe a phenomenon in loudspeakers that are at a distance from your ears.

I got a question for u audio-autists.
What device do you use to listen to music outside of your home? Do you just use a smartphone, or is there some other handheld gadget that can play music at higher quality?
I'm using ATH M50x if that matters, good phones desu.

>>60341213
So when people talk about headphones sounding wide, with a lot of separation between instruments/performers and a sense of spaciousness, they're just making it up? That open-back headphones don't, as a general rule, sound more spacious? It's just some collective self-deception that critical headphone listeners have?

>>60341278
Sound waves are going to bounce back off the cups in a closed headphone and echo to give them a more chamber-like or closed sound.

The 'headstage' people describe is related to frequency response and HRTF.

>>60341286
Okay, so "headstage" exists with headphones? Are there objective ways of measuring that, and where can I find those measurements?

>>60341333
>Are there objective ways of measuring that
Not really, Rtings have an interesting concept but there isn't an agreed method of quantifying it.

http://www.rtings.com/headphones/tests/sound-quality/soundstage#comparison_335

>>60341351
Okay, so what >>60341040 said isn't really true, and wouldn't give you the full picture of what a headphone sounds like.

>>60341393
Headstage is barely relevant in what a headphone sounds like, the differences between headphones are almost non-existant. Idiots just like to exaggerate it so they can appear like they have 'golden ears' which also doubles as a convenient excuse to dismiss anyone who disagrees with their assessment.

>>60341434
Alright. Well, I guess it's going to come down to trying out some different headphones to see what kind of sound signature I prefer. Thanks for the help.

>>60341333
There isn't a unit of measurement for it. You are basically looking for a frequency response plot which correlates with your own HRTF the best. Measurements are conducted on ear simulators which are not very accurate in the high frequencies where a lot of the smaller response cues lie in. Their data does not necessarily help you picking out the headstage critical response even if you knew how your ear response. You can use and equalizer to tune headphones closer to your HRTF for more pronounced headstage but you are essentially sacrificing response accuracy for that.

>>60341393
Sighted listening is fairly meaningless. With training you can pick out stuff from the frequency response but other than larger coloration you will never know what you hear is actually there or just something your brains cooked up, a cognitive bias. Since you really can't blind headphone listening, you can't rid the bias no matter how objective you try to be. Most of it isn't conscious.

Listening for the response coloration is a skill which you have to train to get. This gives you the ability to more reliably quantify the coloration by ear like brightness, boominess or even pick out that there's a 3-5 dB bump around 2 kHz. It's very rare that people doing subjective reviews are able to listen like this and then continue to quantify their impressions. A lot of the adjectives used to describe sound in online reviews are lacking any sort of definition.

Someone can have an opinion but how valuable is that if you can't trust people providing you information on the sound and even if they could, they don't have your ears. All in all, I'd tuck the headstage under irrelevant category as far as important parameters of headphones go for. You can't know it and you can tune what's there afterwards with EQ if you value it.

What are the current go-to cheap chinese IEMs? Still the Xiaomi Piston/Hybrid series?

>>60339015
phew canceled successfully. Could you drop me a link with the mod you mentioned? I'm afraid of fucking up my headphones if the guide i find isn't legit. Will i need to order anything else along with the hd 558 or they come with 3.5mm jack? Is the cord removable considering the htc vive has a headphone jack on the headset? I'd rather not have to deal with a long cord on my setup and all headphone recommendations i've seen online consider removeable headphone cord so it gets replaced by a short one being a must. I still have a cord from some shitty chink bluetooth headphones i had gifted to me would that do the job fine for htc vive use or does cord quality matter somehow to the sound?

>>60341688
KZ variants, Rock Zikron, tons of others. Go look at the infographic, chick thread and in head-fi forums, tons of suggestions.

hilp mi
>Budget
$0-$100AUD
>Location
AUS - shopbot or staticice are some price comparison sites
>Source
my PC (ASUS Z97 MATX)
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed preferred, open is fine if cheaper/better sound
>Comfort level
Sound quality>comfort, as long as I'm not having plastic press up against my ears
>Sound signature
Neutral > U-shaped > everything else
>Past headphones
MDR-7506 gonna go bust.

I'm looking at Superlux HD681s so I can save up for something like the Brainwavz HM5.

How the fuck can devices like headphones have their own general thread?!
I don't get this at all, someone enlighten me please.

>>60341434
>>60341596
> Idiots just like to exaggerate it so they can appear like they have 'golden ears' which also doubles as a convenient excuse to dismiss anyone who disagrees with their assessment.
Or you're just deaf. The perception of sound coming from a distance vs right in your head is very noticeable with "exaggerated soundstage" open such as k702 or HD598se when compared to closed headphones like HD600 or DT770.

>>60342209
-HD600 (ffs)

>>60341762
It has a removable cable and is terminated to 3.5mm with a 1/4 inch adapter. If you need a shorter cable you can get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Audio-upgrade-Sennheiser-Headphones/dp/B00KAKBHKM

>Could you drop me a link with the mod you mentioned?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kJ7sN16qw

>>60317821
Is it fine to connect my headphones directly to my motherboard? Does it really matter? Got the ASUS Z170-P.

Also, I'm getting pretty tired of using open headphones. Got the HD 598 right now. Any suggestions for good replacement with closed build?

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>wen the micro usb port on ur cheap chinese dac/amp starts to break and ur left with just the amp part and finally realize that the DAC wasnt a placebo after all

fuck you

>>60335031
Is the ha-2 any good? You are using it as DAC?

>>60339990
> positioned right
You should invest more money for room treatment and isolation to make LSR305 sound as good and accurate as a HD600.

>>60342242
Thank you very much! Regarding the shorter cable the only Sennheiser brand that is available in my area is http://www.skroutz.gr/s/8878067/Sennheiser-HD-5X8-Cable-3-5mm-male-3-5mm-male-1-4m-S99SE00013.html for 15euro including shipping. How important is quality with these cables? I don't care about durability considering the headphones are going to be used at home solely.

>>60342934
>How important is quality with these cables?

Not worth worrying about. That one should be perfectly fine.

>>60333505
Tubes are kind of tricky. Uber expensive ones may not sound better than cheap stuff and all that jazz. It's really an endless rabbit hole.

Will help massively if you tell us which tube amp you're interested with.

I can't find a decent guide to figure out what I should buy to replace my M50s, pretty much been living under a rock headphone-wise ever since I bought them and now that they've kicked the bucket I don't know where to look for a replacement.

>Budget
About 150/200 European Monopoly money

>Location
Yurop

>Source
PC, no soundcard

>Type of headphone
Over-ear

>Open or closed
Preferably closed

>Comfort level
Not a huge priority

>Sound quality
Anything that works well for PC gaming

>Past headphones
ATH M50, rip ;_;7

>>60343269
I see, thanks again. There is a possibility in the future that i get a very expensive amp/dac (1000$ expensive) that has lightbulbs on it from my father because he's a hardcore audiophile and is going to get a new one at 10000euros should i then upgrade to something like hd-650/600 and just keep the 558s for vr gaming and smartphone use? Would i not notice any difference considering i'm not much of an audiophile myself?

>>60343627
Yeah, HD 600 and HD 650 would be great with it. I have an HD 650 and highly recommend it. Doesn't your dad have headphones you could try listening to on that amp?

>>60343757
Nope, his house is neighbourless so he has huge speakers, so jealous... Sucks being a uni student in the capital.

>>60339910
HM5, CB-1, or m40x with new pads.

DT770 pro 80 ohm is the best closed under $200 if you don't mind a long cable

>>60339064
Do you exclusively plan on wearing them in front of a mirror or something?

>>60343627
You should get a 600. But what you should really be doing is asking your fucking dad.

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>>60340029
Flatter doesn't mean shit in headphones dumberino. Driver is physically close to the ear, you can't have flat FR esp in highs, that dissipate faster in air, without making them overemphasised. Hoverer nothing stops headphones from being made/tuned to have perceived sound balance close to a speaker, and thats why HD600 get shitted so much since they don't kill you with highs and sound 'warmish' due to midbass hump'.

There are tons of other benefits with speakers over the headphones like a real soundstage or greater bass amount that you can feel. I am currently looking for a pair of speakers and was thinking about LSR305 but found these c-ute boxes that by specs go deeper than LSR305, but not so loud, but mote importantly are a fraction of LSR305. Yes I am shilling them because they are so cute, CUTE!

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>retards still spout the meme that FR is all that matters in headphones
I seriously hope you retards don't believe this garbage.

>>60343526
6n6 and 6j1
>>60343627
>lightbulbs
go to reddit you dumb fuck underaged nigger

new thread

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>>60344425

>>60344425

>>60341596
This is the best way to do it, because our hearing is very subjective. There are general preferences and mid range is more or less stays the same but low and high frequencies preferences differ from person to person, as was shown in harmon study. Z reviews is fun to watch but he doesn't even describe sound that much or compare it to anything, he mostly talks about comfort, looks and how nice/bad the wire is. For headphones reviews that will give you an actual sound description that will make sense look for metal571 that I largely agree with.

I won't agree with >>60341040, because if you find a decent reviewer who's sound preferences fit with yours you can get a value out of him, but it's more gamble than looking at measures. Hoverer, measurements are meaningless without a point of reference and optimal frequency target is not agreed yet in headphones, and even in speakers there are variations. Moreover everyone's measurements are different and sometimes 2 measurements of the same headphone will vary drastically from one person to another because of different compensation curves, for sound leakage and other stuff, different parameters and hardware. You will mostly stick to the person who is more or less competent in measuring and who has the biggest database and that is a Tyll from innerfidelity.

Thats why I would strongly recommend you at least hear HD600 because they are most natural sounding one and from there you can decide/EQ what you are missing, either in bass on in highs, and beyers tend to have those more with a substantial emphasis on highs. Once you work out your sound preference you can start looking at FR charts and make sense out of them.

>>60341434
You are either retard that is misguiding people or deaf. Compare HD600 and HD800, difference is very noticeable, or even vs K712.

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>>60344101
Already did anon, he has barely ever used headphones since he got into this
>>60344234
I can probably understand your frustration over my newfaggotry, i just happened to be fortunate to have a dad that spends alot on his audio equipment and i get to use expensive shit i know nothing about and probably don't even deserve using. Thing is that's why i'm here and will be lurking threads like these because now that i can finally get a decent setup i can actually get into this. I meant something that looks like pic related.

>>60344724
yes i know very well what you meant, that's why i posted that reply

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>>60344509
Assuming they're the same price, would you still recommend the HD600 over the HD650 as a point of reference? I'll probably pick up one of these, and honestly as irrelevant as it seems the looks of the HD600 bother me.

>>60343621
MDR1A