/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>>60280615
First for overclocked T430.

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Second for impossible project
This piece of shit is not working. How long does take to boot in Win95?

>>60280639
is it on fire yet?

>>60280896
A minute at mosts on a desktop PC with an early DMA mode HDD.

>>60280923
Right, then this computer has some problems and to make it worse, the I/O is garbage without a dock.
I mean there is not a single thing I can do with a floppy is there?

>>60280906
No, only breaks 90 C running benchmarks for a while.

Will test some more serious video rendering tonight.

>>60280896
10 seconds if you install on an SSD

I have a T450s
Can i swap the keyboard for the old-style keyboard?

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X220 comfiest user here.

>>60281114
Nope, only the T430 can do that.

>>60281208
thanks

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>>60281208
you mean x230, t430, t430s, w530 and t530, idiot.

>>60281464
Sure, that's what I meant you flaming autist.

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>tfw you suddenly realize your hp 2570p, unlike lelnopevovo(R) shitpads(tm), supports full eGPU hotplugging
Fuck yeah. No more restarting the system to disconnect eGPU. No more putting laptop into sleep to connect it. Full hotplug, just like TB3 eGPUs.
>thinkfags on suicide watch

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>>60281490
look who's back

>>60281510
>shitpad x230
to properly connect eGPU with 16GiB RAM you have to:
>Shutdown the system
>Plug in the power supply to laptop
>Plug in the eGPU with no hdmi/dvi cable connected
>during boot, halt system startup with f8
>plugin the hdmi port
>continue startup

>2570p
to properly connect eGPU with 16GiB RAM you have to:
>plug it in anytime you want

Get shrekt, lenovo drone.

Why is my dissipator is bent?

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>>60281557
>Get shrekt, lenovo drone.
>conveniently doesn't address the heating issue

>>60281577
Because there is no heating issue, unless you're a retard who uses 6 years old, dry thermal compound.

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/CPU-overheating-x230/td-p/990561
Oh look, isn't that the x230 overheating issue?
Just look at all these related posts on lelnovo forums. x230 is literally a battery-powered mobile housefire!

>>60280956
Is the drive running in PIO mode? That's a typical issue with older computers, where the default PIO mode is used instead of DMA in windows. Enable it in the driver for your IDE device.

Holy shit anon with the palmrest/bottom panel crack here: There's an SSD in the side slot(I don't know what it's called) that seems to be sello taped in so hard that I can't pull it out. This is going back.

>>60281679
>he's still comparing quad core computers with smaller dual core ones

>>60282136
?? Post images. that sounds like an easy fix.

>>60281787
Okay, thanks for the heads up.

>>60281490
But 2570p does not have similar keyboard to X220. That often kills it for but otherwise 2570p is pretty fucking tempting machine to geet

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It just doesn't budge. Want a pic of the crack?

>>60282269
The pull tab is stuck to the drive?

What does those red rails smell like?

>>60282269
That looks like the pull tab, but it could also be black tape cause it's definitely not supposed to look stuck on like that

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>>60282330
>>60282376

I found out it's tape turned into a makeshift pull tab. Got the 160 GB SSD out eventually(just wanted to make sure it was there). Along with that I also have this crack. Along with that one of the screen lid sides is slightly loose(will need to be replaced in the future) as is the drive cover(very slightly bent) and the battery(very slight).
They're offering a partial refund or a full refund(they'll pay for the return). I'm not sure which to take. What do you guys think, all things considered? (I know I asked earlier but I've provided a little more information since then.

>>60282608
Yeah, with those issues that is a bit of a pain. I'd lookup the price of all the parts, add them up, then add at least $10 or 10% (whichever is greater), and then ask them for that amount if you're willing to actually do the labor and fix it, or just keep the cash since it's cosmetic. If they decline, return the item and at that point I'd leave a neutral or even negative review, because it sounds like the item was horribly misrepresented. That's real fucking annoying.

>>60282608
I got a full refund on mine that I bought from ebay. It got damaged by GSP failure to repackage the laptop properly after inspection. Didn't have to send it back as the refund came from ebay, and it seems like the seller got to keep the money too.

Importing from US is the cheapest option, and my country has exactly 1000 euro feeless import limit.
So, I want to turn 1550 buxs into <1090.
Do you know of some coupons?
There is SAV15THINKPAD to get 15% discount, would it stack with my students coupon? Or any better ideas? I really want to make it into the limit.
Please no reddit-tier "ask them to edit invoice".

>>60282667

I wouldn't mind but the model they advertised in the pictures wasn't the model I got, and I emailed and asked the seller if there were any cracks on the machine and he said no. I don't think it got damaged in transit. i paid 200 euro for this.

>>60282713
Yeah sounds like you got scammed by seller negligence. Tell eBay or tell that prick to refund at least half your money (if that covers your parts).

>>60282713

dude I'd return it even if you had to pay return postage, not being the item in the listing and having cracks after them telling you it didn't is grounds for a chargeback in most countries and them offering to refund/partial refund as well as offering to pay return postage is them not wanting to get fucked over by the website you bought it from for mislabelling items

there's plenty of good condition thinkpads out there, don't settle for one that has been dropped causing visible damage in the corner, you don't know what other internal damage it has done and those problems might not immediately present themselves (i.e., weakened solder joints from the impact)

>>60282697
>my country has exactly 1000 euro feeless import limit.
Which country is this? My limit is closer to 30-40 euro.

>>60282830

Here in Europe the pickings are actually a lot tighter, unless you wanna pay a fuck tonne in shipping and taxes from the US. I'm not really sure what to do at this point; the X220 seems perfect but I can't seem to get my hands on one.

What are expected themperatures on T420, maybe this will apply to some of X series as well, Sandy bridge

Is 50c when watching high res video, browsing, and text editing ok?

>>60282837
Russia, m8. It's going to be 22 euro next year, just tightly screwing the nuts.

>>60282891

I'm from the uk so I understand the issue but if you don't mind waiting a while you'll get a decent offer eventually

>>60282923

m8 would you agree it's better to just get a machine with a good CPU and casing, under the pretense that you can upgrade the ram and ssd later?

>>60282697
They don't usually let coupons stack
There is a coupon on the UK store, but I'm not sure if it's a student only coupon and what percent it knocks off.
SPRINGSAVER

>>60282967
You don't even need a good CPU unless it's soldered on. I literally buy the absolute cheapest I can find no matter how bad the condition as long as the price is low, and then order all the parts immediately and assemble it myself.

>>60282181
>he is still retarded and shitposts
kill yourself

>>60282713
tell eBay that they said that there were no cracks and hopefully you'll get a full refund

>>60282269
>Want a pic of the crack?
ew no

I have an x220

>>60283020

Apparently I'm not covered on that scheme because I didn't use paypal. I learned my lesson I guess.

>>60283202
aw shit man

Whats the worse thing that could happen if i fuck up a libreboot installation? or a coreboot installation?

>>60284096
your computer draws too much power and all of the fuses in your house and laptop fail, heating up your house wiring, burning your house down

but it's unlikely to happen

>>60281472
not the flaming autist, but that's a horrible lie and you obviously did not mean that you flaming autistic cunt

>>60284140
He asked about the T4xx series, so I responded in the context of the T4xx series. So yeah, you are also a flaming autist.

>>60284096
a brick

>>60284133
kek

has anyone ever replaced a panel in a modern thinkpad? thinking about buying a used t460s and putting the qhd panel in it.

is izpz or hard?

>>60284672
Not any different than before.

>>60283202
you are a fucking retard man.
why didd't you use paypal. You could have had a full refund and kept the laptop.

What condition of used Thinkpad is generally acceptable? No defects? Cosmetic only? Worn out keys and touchpad?

>>60284958
AS IS, FOR PARTS, NOT WORKING

>>60284649
if im a total newbfag, what are my chances of fucking either of these installations up?

>>60284997
are you dumb?

>>60280615
Just got some dumped on me. A T410, T42, and R38. Ready to start some housefires.

Coming from someone whose only previous ThinkPad is a T42.

>>60280615
any chances we'll get a 2017 x1 carbon with a >1080p screen?

Anyone have a t460p/470p? Is one tiny fan enough to cool a quad core chip?

Would a t60(p) be usable in 2017 for web browsing, video (720p) viewing, and word processing, for around 50-60 bucks? Coming from a Pentium M. Will put SSD in it.

>>60285325
Shit, not R38. An R32.

>>60286827
yes

>>60286827
Yep. Don't expect miracles, but it'll do what you asked.

>>60280896
>he actually wrote the date in two formats to account for the mentally impaired who would only ever comprehend just one of them

>>60280615
I'm currently using T420 for remote work and the little fucker is rocking it.

I've been using Window 7 again for the first time after years of using Linux only and I don't mind it but I would like to have a Linux distro along.

I'm wondering if there is any anon here that is using Linux with T420 and can recommend me a distro (I was thinking about OpenSuSe/Fedora) as I need mini docking station to fully work. (audio/mic/camera for huddle and in VDI) with it.

>>60280963
dont forget to stress the cpu AND gpu (yes igpus produce a decent amount of heat too)
doesn't mean shit if the cpu cant stay at high clocks when your gpu is under any load at all and it's throttling
>>60282269
9mm drive in an x220/30?
you have to take it out from under the keyboard.
you can't get it out from the top

>>60282900
sure
what matters is load temps not dicking around temps
you wont kill your cpu at idle unless you have no thermal paste at all (or no heatsink)
>>60286827
as long as it's low quality 720p yeah
just know that for like $20 more you can get a t400 or t410 which will EASILY do that

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>>60280615
>you walk into your room and realize someone swapped your shitpad with fully featured gayming 2570p
What do you do?

>>60289398
>gaming
>laptop
>>>/v/

>>60289437
>eGPU
>with other purpose than gayming
>>>/out/

really want to try something new. looking at the t470p or dell m5520. seems like m5520 has more promise on the display quality and thunderbolt 3, but i do really like thinkpads...

How does worn/old thermal compound look like? Grey-colored? I just replaced it on my T530 and I'm yet to test it to see if temperatures improved.

X220 with i5 2520M, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD with original charger and battery (3.5 hours). It runs W10 and has a legit Office 2016 version.
>€180

Is this a good deal?

>>60289398
>nigger stole my 1600x1200 IPS T601F and replaced it with some 1366x768 TN trashbook
He's fucking dead.

>>60289733
>using 10 years old hardware
kys

>>60289743
>using 1366x768 TN
it's 2017 anon

>>60289759
you mean 2560x1080, right?
you don't need more than 1366x768 in mobile use of 12,5" screen, unless you're homeless or you travel a lot

>>60289788
>buying a mobile computer that is completely useless without an external monitor
nice

and you'll talk about older hardware needing to be plugged in more but a power cord is a hell of a lot more portable than a fucking desktop monitor

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>>60289788
>unless you're homeless

>>60289809
>completely useless without an external monitor
woah dude, this is like... your opinion
you know what happens to your opinions on this place, right?
1366x768 is perfect for 12,5" screens. Most people buy laptops with this resolution for a reason.
>>60289814
if you're homeless then you're forced to use your mobile screen. Normal people dock their laptops to external screens at home

>>60289882
>Most people buy laptops with this resolution for a reason.
Because it's the shit the Best Buy employee tells them to buy and they don't know any better? Come the fuck on. 1366x768 is an abomination. The fucking T420 plebs have a better screen than your macbook knockoff.

>>60289571
almost the exact same as brand new compound
it doesn't really change colors it just dries out
>>60289659
seems fine for bong bucks

>>60281490
Wtf I love hp now
No really I'm pretty redpilled about the 2570p

>>60289759
>not using 1400*1050
>2002+15
Anon I...

>>60289306
when I get my T420 i'm gonna install Parabola. It's one of the GNU/linux OS's that Stallman reccomends.

X200 tablet > X220 tablet

Thinkpad Design and Heritage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBvI4U-Lutw

>>60289882
>Normal people dock their laptops to external screens at home
tell me more about what they do, since you're observing them up close

>>60290835
>it's ours. these aren't products that emulate what other people do, they don't look like products from another company
meanwhile the T440 looks like a macbook dyed black

>>60290819
>not getting X60 + Libreboot + Trisquel GNU+Linux for the Ultimate Stallman Computing Experience™

Would anyone pay to have someone install coreboot or libreboot bios? I'm thinking of charging $100. You send your laptop to me, without hdd, ram, battery if you want, and i send it back with a new bios

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>>60291054
>$100 bucks + shipping + shipping again
>literally more than my thinkpad cost in the first place
u hvn a giggle m8

>>60291070
who gives a shit about your laptop? buying a corebooted laptop is expensive, and that's the important variable. doing it yourself is an effort

>>60291093
You asked whether people would pay for it, and I'm saying that at $100 it seems far too expensive. I could just try to do it myself and, if I fuck up, just throw the laptop in the trash and buy a new one.

Or perhaps I don't fuck up and I'm not out >$100. I don't think you're gonna have many buyers.

>>60291124
yeah but you said it was too expensive because of an invalid reason. So what if your laptop was $100 as well?

You're also assuming that to do it yourself is free in your second example, which isnt the case

>>60291124
the whole point is that you don't have to fiddle with it yourself and go through the frustration of fucking it up and having to buy a new one.

is the reason it's not worth it to you because you're a poor ass?

>>60291054
I feel like most people who would care enough about it to pay that much would just do it themselves.

How many of you juse hackintosh on the X220? Do you use Sierra or El Capitan?

>>60289913
>1366x768 is an abomination.
for (You)
Business clients who get newest x270 thinkpads with 1366x768 screens say otherwise.
Hell, x220 and x230 only used 1366x768 screens. It didn't stop millions of business customers from using it.
>T420 plebs have a better screen
lol, just because it has higher resolution doesn't mean it's objectively better.
No it's not. T420/T430 is fucking cancer and it has worst viewing angles I've ever seen.

>>60291225
I feel pretty good using the 1366x768 in my x220.
Don't let the graph-whores bark

>>60291251
I'm ok with that resolution on the X220 but the fucking screen -is- abominable. I'm not exactly sure the IPS replacement is all that better.

Are there any 3rd party replacement IPS displays for T520/T530?

>>60291251
Lol I'm 100% ok with 1366x768 in my 2570p, even when running vms on the go.
>>60291350
it's not okay. light bleeding is disgusting, same goes for ghosting effect and burns in the outer screen layer when using it for longer periods of time with 80-100% brightness
lelnopevovo fucked this up.

>>60281557
I don't remember having to do that with my eGPU setup on my x230. I just had to shut it down, plug it in with whatever I want connected to it and reboot it.

>>60289398
Post full specs fag, shit looks comfy af.

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>>60291657
that's probably because you had <16GB RAM
>I just had to shut it down
which means it doesn't have hotplug support. Enjoy shutting down your cumputer everytime you undock your laptop. I do it like 10 times every day. It's not acceptable in 2017.
>>60291672
pic rel, plus 7260ac wifi card, gobi 3k WWAN, additional 9cell battery for Ultraportable(R) Gayming Experience(TM).

>>60291731
Is it through the express card slot, or is it through an mSATA port on the motherboard

>X230T Arch

Anyone got a working script that automatically rotates the screen when you use it as a tablet?
For now i just rotate the screen and digitizer input with a script that i set to one of the buttons on the front but there has to be a better way.

>>60292239
eGPU setups are usually through the ExpressCard slot, doing them through the mPCI-E slot inside can be bothersome and besides, you would probably end up cutting a hole for the cable to go through, so ExpressCard Is the way to go.
It's usually ExpressCard 34 (which is the width in mm), but if your PC is older it might have both 34mm and 54mm versions. In the end it doesn't matter which one you use.
Oh, one thing, though: you need an external 12V power supply and external monitor to make it work, unless you want to do some trickery to make it work with the internal LCD...

>>60292322
Huh? Didn't know the X2x0t models had auto-rotating screens, I thought it could only be done by hand...

>>60292353
>Huh? Didn't know the X2x0t models had auto-rotating screens, I thought it could only be done by hand...
Yea you're probably right, that would explain why i couldn't find anything about it.

>>60291731
Are you using a dock?

>>60291731
Any computer with ssd reboots in less then a minute so it's not a big problem. But having hp laptop is. Every single one of them runs hot, cheaply made and practically unrepairable. Stop trying to convince yourself and everyone else that you haven't fucked up and you bought "superior" laptop

>>60292654
>Elite books are bad
Hot meme

>>60292239
expresscard.
>>60292635
yes
>>60292654
yes it's a problem, you retard. I'm not gonna shut down or hibernate vms every hour because my shitpad meme laptop can't support egpu like a normal machine.
>Every single one of them runs hot
Nice meme. Keep forcing it, maybe one day someone will notice.

>>60292353
>external monitor to make it work
You're wrong. You don't need it.
2570p supports eGPU optimus out of the box.

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>>60280615
kek. I fried my overclocked T430's fan header because when I was reseating the new keyboard I accidentally pinched one of the fan wires and it was cut in half. Somehow when it broke it took the fan header with it.

Ordered a new motherboard for $35, and luckily I was able to snag the very rare T430 fan that I couldn't find before, from China.

Hopefully I can squeeze out the very last few points of cooling from it when it arrives. Pic related.

>>60293572
what the fuck that difference is huge

>>60281464
Does it work properly?

>>60293660
Yes it is.

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M6600 2960XM, 32Jiggabytes, 500GB EVO 850, 1TB HGST 7200 RPM, OPTICAL DRIVE, 1080p, shitty old Quadro (will swap soonish)

>>60289398
Someone swapped my 1920x1200p w500 and my t420s with a 900p panel for a shitty laptop that can't run games as well as my desktop?

>>60294008
>lol core2duo
>lol sandy bridge with disgusting as shit screen
kek

>>60294067
Meh. It's only about 50% slower than the fastest thing $ can buy in the laptop arena. The GPU is the only thing that's really shitty (just need UHD monitor, not games). Whole thing with upgrades came out to ~$1200.

>>60294104
The autism is strong with this one

>>60294067
Sweg

>>60291731
Enjoy wearing out the short life connector in your express card slot, also, my t420s starts in 20 seconds with my shitty ssd, it turns off in like 10, is 30 seconds really so limiting?

>>60291731
>Ultraportable gaming
>Graphics card and monitor need ac power

>>60294067
I can still use inventor professional 2017 just fine on my "shitty core 2 duo"
There's nothing wrong with sandybridge
Why are viewing angles even an issue on a laptop? I know your Cheeto fingers are difficult to move but just tilt the screen to an acceptable position, you don't use your laptop side on

>>60280639
>>60293572
How did you overclock the non-XM CPU?

Did your BIOS have a locked MSR bit or did everything just werk (TM)?

>tfw W520 has locked multiplier on an XM CPU

>>60294371
Neither. The dude with the ridiculous W530 XM was also confused, but after reading up on QM chips I figured out that there's two locks on QM chips, and one can be unlocked:

- The BIOS, which I had to mod the MSR bit to remove.

- The multiplier, which actually has a limit, but not a direct lock. I can set my multipliers to 42, 41, 40, 40 with an unlocked BIOS, which is enough for me. Stock multipliers cap at 38 for one core (I don't know the rest).

>>60294524
>The BIOS, which I had to mod the MSR bit to remove.
pls explain

I haven't found a guide on how to do this so far

>>60294569
There is no guide. You need to know assembly. I'm still learning it myself, I was able to remove the wlan whitelist but had the OC mod done by someone else.

>>60292353
>>60293193
interesting. I'm considering getting a laptop and eGPU to replace my tablet and desktop because I'm going to be doing a lot of travelling over the next couple of months and I feel like eGPU + laptop is more portable than micro-ATX and monitor.
I'll add a 2570p to my list of computers

>>60280615
Would something like this work with a Thinkpad T420
https://www.amazon.com/Laptop-External-PCI-Graphics-Card/dp/B00Q4VMLF6

Can get it really cheap which isn't usually a case in my country.

>>60289398
>>60293193
if you use the v8 EXP GDC dock, what else do you need besides a power supply?

And as for the power supply, do you need an ATX PSU or can you use a power brick with a barrel connector?

When do new Thinkpads typically get a price cut? Can I expect it by August?

>>60295122
The price cuts will not make it worth it. Anything after the xx40 series is incrementally CPU improvements or port changes. Only worthwhile changes are some of the ports and DDR4 if you don't need VGA and want the new RAM.

>>60294371
Fucking MSRs bayeech

Just finished reassembling my X230 after cleaning and putting new paste on the processor. Feels comfy.

>>60295010
The GPU. lol.
you don't need ATX PSU. You can use either a standard chink 12V PSU with standard connector, Dell DA-2 220W brick ($5 on ebay) or ATX.

Is it normal to a refurbisher to change thermal paste or should I bug him a little more to ask if he has done it?
I will definitely have a look at the innards of my new dankpad once it arrives, but I don't necessarily want to take of the cpu cooler..
first time buying refurbished

>>60294104
>It's only about 50% slower than the fastest thing $ can buy in the laptop arena.
you forgot to mention no hardware AES support, absolutely shitty iGPU (or no igpu at all), extreme power consumption and unacceptable amount of heat (=a lot of noise to cool this shit down). Not to mention increased dimensions to contain bigass heatsink to cool this shit.
>Whole thing with upgrades came out to ~$1200.
I hope this is a fucking joke.
This entire setup:
>>60291731
>>60289398
cost me $800.

Does anyone here know where I can get a new X230 9-cell battery for the best price possible?
It has to be genuine because of Lenovo shenanigans.

>>60296708
>It has to be genuine because of Lenovo shenanigans.

This hasn't been true in like 3 years. The DRM has been cracked for ages, and if the battery you buy isn't cracked it can still be bypassed by a one-time software patch.

>>60296746
Tell me more.

>>60296757
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

Compile and install this with the keyboard stuff turned off and battery patch included.

>>60296779
So for my next question, where can I find the best aftermarket batteries that don't rape my wallet?

Play the chinese roulette in ebay?

>>60296813
Basically, yes. Make sure they state the wattage. The 9-cell OEM batteries are 94Wh or 8.4Ah. Anything less means it's weaker than the Lenovo batteries.

>>60296831
That's funny, because often the chinks state one wattage/hour and then the battery ciomes with another.

>>60296708
Try auction sites like eBay. I got a genuine unused 9 cell for the same price as the least sketchy looking Chinese knock off

>>60296846
Then you return those and tell them to fuck off.

Either that or pay out the nose for a genuine one and risk getting a lower Wh due to wear.

I had to spend $75 for a 9-cell new in box.

>>60296369
usually not

But if you don't do it yourself anyway, GTFO.

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>>60294641
reeeeeeeeeeeee

How much did he charge for it

>>60297112
Do you know how to dump and reflash your BIOS with an SPI flasher? If not, he won't help you anyway.

>>60297148
I have Sandy Bridge which doesn't check for modified BIOS.

Is it Oleh from biosmods?

>>60296779
That thing also flashes the keyboard.
I like the x230 keyboard.

>>60297294
Oh, you should be fine then.

Yeah, Oleh is the local Lenovo expert over there.

Sandy Bridge does check, but only for a totally different BIOS. A modded Lenovo one should work fine. I gave him a nice fat tip for the OC unlock, cause he doesn't do that one often.

>>60297360
>being too inept to read
ishygddt

>>60297360
you can disable keyboard patches by renaming them to *.off
then you proceed normally.

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>>60297396
thx m8

Didn't Oleh get banned from the site something or other?

>>60297529
not that I know of, no

>>60289459
>attaching an egpu tumor to a mobile machine when you can just use a proper workstation
like I said, >>>/v/

>IBM quality
>z61p (2006) has no rollcage or any protection on the back of the screen
>Lenovo quality
>w500 (2008) has a complete rollcage, is thiner, and has a complete magnesium shell on the back of the screen

??

>>60296962
thanks for the nice words, of course i do it myself, it's like 1 month ago that i changed the paste of my two other laptops
but if I can save a few minutes, I will
I just don't have any experience with refurbishers

>>60281114
Why would you want to do that ?

>>60298228
xDDDDD le concern tr0l

>>60297863
I may have gone off half-cocked. You'll have to admit /tpg/ is full of retards though.

As far as """refurbishers""" go, 9 times out of 10 it's just a regular used laptop but somebody's at least taken the time to wipe off the cum stains and blast the dust out of the fan. And replace a broken palmrest or screen or something if it was broken when they got it. And they've given it a cursory function test and maybe reinstalled Windows.

Is it worth it to you? Maybe; depends on you.

I can't believe what I'm seeing
I could get 26 laptops for 200€
AAAAAAAAA

Löytyy seuraavat varaosakoneet:

1. Lenovo Thinkpad T61
2. Lenovo Thinkpad X230
3. Asus X54H K54HR
4. Dell Latitude E5410
5. FS LifeBook S751
6. Acer Aspire 5538G
7. FS LifeBook S710
8. HP DV7-6033eo
9. HP 17-1201no
10. Dell Latitude E6410
11. HP EliteBook 2170p
12. Dell Latitude E6430
13. Dell Latitude E6430
14. Dell Latitude E6430
15. Dell Latitude E6430
16. Dell Latitude E6430
17. Dell Latitude E6220
18. Dell Latitude E6220
19. Dell Latitude E6220
20. Dell Latitude E6230
21. Dell Latitude E5420
22. Dell Latitude E5420

Projektikoneet. Ilman kovalevyä ja muisteja. Muutoin kaikki osat paikoillaan.

1. Dell Vostro 3330
2. HP G7-1300so
3. Samsung NP275L5E-K10SE
4. Acer Aspire V5 ZQK V5-472-21274G50app Huom! Integroitu 4Gt RAM.

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>>60298341
RESIST THE URGE TO NOT TO BUY
FUGGGG

>>60298332
yes, /tpg/ is full of retards, but they are lovely retards, those kind of guys which can sometimes just help you kill an hour or two with their ohso-important monologes, which you will forget a few moments later
>looks at himself

mhmm, sounds like easy money.. i should consider doing so myself
As europoor I don't have many options, when i saw that britbong x230 i used the rare occasion to get my hands on one of them, even not too expensive
But yeah.. considering your words I will take it completely apart myself then

My x230 motherboard died when i plugged in... No power led work.... The thinkpad meme is going right in my ass.

>>60297774
Isn't the Z series one of the lower end series of thinkpads?
I'm sure if you looked at a T or X series of the era it would be decent

>>60298609
Welcome to the club. The deeper you go on the rabbithole, the better

>>60298341
give us a link senpai

how many RAM slots does the x230 have?

>>60298669
https://www.tori.fi/pohjois-pohjanmaa/Varaosa_ja_projektilappareita__kaikki_200e_36530877.htm?ca=18&w=3

This deal is in Finland, which is why I would like to get consulting from you guys.
Shitty translation below.
>Löytyy seuraavat varaosakoneet:
These are part computers
>Pääsääntöiseti lcd paneelit ja akut puuttuvat. Joitakin led taustavalaistuja löytyy 40 ja 30 pinnisellä eDP liittimellä.
Mainly lcd panels and batteries are missing. Some led backlight (keyboards?) is found 40 and 30 pins eDP connector
>Hinnat:
prices
>- 10e + postit / osa
>- 20e + postit / koko kone, varmistetaan ensin, että ainakin tarvitsemasi osa koneesta löytyy.
10e+post / part
20e + post / whole PC, first ensure that the parts you need is found on the computer
>Projektikoneet. Ilman kovalevyä ja muisteja. Muutoin kaikki osat paikoillaan.
Project computers. Without harddrive or rams. Otherwise all parts intact
>Projektikoneen hinta 30e + postit.
Project computer price 30e + post
>Kaikki yhteensä 200e
All together 200e

Would you guys still opt for a Thinkpad if you had more money to spend and needed more your laptop for something more intensive like video editing? I can see the merit of an older Thinkpad for programming and what not, but the new models seem more expensive than their counterparts with similar hardware.

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>>60296019
I worked out I needed a GPU by myself lol
Thanks for the PSU recommendation. I looked around a little bit on other forums and reddit and found a lot of people recommending the Dell one, but they never actually gave the model number.
I've updated my spreadsheet and hopefully I'm slightly closer to deciding what I want to get

>>60294067
>disgusting as shit screen
>768 elitebook
you memed yourself friendo

>>60294820
go for the expresscard version

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>>60280615
Finally got that x220 keyboard and palmrest installed on my x230T. It's pretty comfy I have to say, to hell with that chick-fillet shit.

>>60289398
I think we use the same card

>>60298851
Yes. I paid $1500 for a maxed out P50s and I'm selling it and keeping my $800 T430 that I built from scratch, which runs faster, has better parts, was half the price, and can support an eGPU if I need it to.

What's the procedure for changing daily drivers under the same hard drive?

Currently running Windows Update for appropriate drivers. Do I need to find and uninstall the old ones? Does it matter what models you're changing from? The power manager toolbar seems to have automatically removed now inapplicable options.

>>60298851
>>60298986
This was WITH the corporate discount by the way.

>>60298851
I don't like the new Thinkpads, unfortunately.

There is some guy ITT advocating a line comparable to Thinkpads but without the "meme tax" of Thinkpads, as I've seen a youtube commenter describe it as. I am shallow enough to only go for Thinkpads if we're talking pre-xx30 models. Beyond that I have no conceivable brand loyalty to lenovo.

>>60299118
What line? ENEET books?

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>>60299204
Dell Latitude, according to the commenter.

They had the nomenclature of >>60289398, "2570p". Or maybe the guy in pic is talking of a different line than the thread guy.

>>60299261
desu I'm clearly mixing things up, cause that commenter never even said "meme tax", sorry. But that was the comment I saw and meant...

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Look at how absolutely fucking shite this battery is, what a crock of shit. I knew this shit being dead on arrival meant the owner gave zero fucks about taking care of it.

>>60299394
>fair
>22% original capacity
>lelnopevovo
hahahaahahah

>>60299833
Easy way to filter the eNEETbook autist:
- "lelnopevovo"
- "2570p"
- "thinkfags"

>>60299880
if he wasn't such a cunt maybe people would take his opinions seriously

>>60298924
looks like the screen is broken tho.

>>60299981
Not him, but how do you mean? I see nothing with my layman eyes, but being able to spot this stuff could only come in handy for me.

>>60299394
If you bought it used and you didn't buy from a seller that screencaps the capacity/charge cycles, you're dumb and you got what you deserved.

>>60300082
not him, but I thought the screen looked weird because the orange-yellow tint to it, but it could be that >>60298924 is using f.lux or something like it

>>60300126
I don't get why you have to call me dumb. It was the best deal there, and I watched the market for a week.

They said the battery life isn't guaranteed, but I didn't expect actual trash.

>>60299880
I have the following:
>X230
>T430
>8470p
So I think I can chime in on the whole HP vs Lenovo shitposting.

>durability
HP is more durable on a day to day basis, but a catastrophic fall will fuck up an HP much more. The HP's magnesium body is surprisingly bendy. The Lenovo magnesium body is tougher but more brittle.

>inputs
HP keyboard is shit. SHIT. It has a godly texture though. Lenovo keyboard is amazing in comparison, regarding the layout.
HP "trackpoint" is SHIT. Much less precision when compared with the real trackpoint.
HP completely destroys Lenovo with their trackpad though. Very, very nice.

>outputs
The IPS on the X230 is miles ahead of both the T430 768p TN and the 8470p 900p TN. Even the x230's TN is better than the bigger screens on the other laptops. The worse offender is HP with its shit viewing angles, but I believe the T430's 900p screen is the same dogshit.

>Miscellaneous
HP is easier for maintenance, the whole underside of the laptop comes off and everything is shown. With the T430 you have to take both the underside and the keyboard to have easy access to everything.
HP cooling is worse. Both the X230 and 8470p have the i5-3320m with integrated graphics, and the x230 actually has better cooling with its smaller fan.
Lenovo hinges are much much MUCH better.
Both companies are shitty regarding whitelists.
Lenovo batteries are better.

Regarding looks, both company's laptops are sexy, for different reasons.

That's all I can think about for now.

>>60300156
We don't have a problem with elitebooks, we have a problem with the one autist that spergs out at every chance he gets to shit on ThinkPads, in a fucking ThinkPad general.

>>60300152
First thing I do on a used laptop is replace the battery.

>>60300152
>It was the best deal there
>They said the battery life isn't guaranteed
This is why you don't bite on "deals" like this, ya cheap jew.

>>60300207
>tfw never do this because batteries are so expensive they're often at least 1/4th the price of what I pay for the laptop if not 1/2

>>60300237
>tfw not poor

I buy used/old ThinkPads because I like modding/refurbishing them and they still end up cheaper or turn a profit when I sell them. I buy batteries in bulk when I can.

>>60299261
>>60300156

Anyone know anything about durability of Latitudes? They look like rounded plastic shit

>>60300220
How am I a "jew"? I'm watching the market like everyone else, looking for a good deal. All the other ones were way more, so I guess the seller was consciously being a malicious bastard.

>>60300207
Thinkpads are different, though. You look at a random laptop and don't really consider that. On a Thinkpad you really want a good battery on arrival cause owners fancy swapping parts a lot.

>>60293793
(only after reflashing the embedded controller firmware)

>>60300281
(which takes about 5 minutes)

>>60300264
who's paying more than you pay for used thinkpads? I imagine they wouldn't pay more than the average used price on ebay, I sure wouldn't

>>60289398
How does Doom 2016 even run on that thing?

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>>60291182
i would never install proprietary malware on my thinkpad.

>>60300275
No, it was less money because it was of unknown/lesser quality and should have been avoided if capacity mattered to you.

Good sellers of used batteries charge it up and screencap the capacity/charge cycles so you know what you're getting. It takes time and effort on the seller's part which is worth a premium instead of average parts recycler sellers just picking one out of a bin and posting it on eBay with a "lolidunno, good luck" type listing with no further effort.

/tpg/ - How to eBay General

>>60300265
Latitudes are very durable too.
They're plastic, but the edges are metal, completely protecting the thing from falls and whatnot.

>>60300384
The plastic scares me, I had a Dell laptop back in 07 that I had the palmrest replaced 3 times on. It would always crack in the same place. Clearly a structural design issue. It eventually cracked again and I stopped caring

>>60300372
:(

thanks for being patient with me in at least this reply... And I did the math, and the market for this model right now gives me a $130 difference to buy a battery, obviously excluding the hassle of getting one (and possible shipping fee dumbassery). So it was fine I guess, but I'd prefer the shit said battery is essentially dead, so I'd see the price more honestly.

Anyone have a t460p with quad core i7? Does one fan keep it cool? Why do all thinkpads only have one fan?

>>60300430
Honestly you could have probably just as easily gotten a decent capacity battery if it was luck-of-the-parts-bin draw. The point being, if you're shelling out good shekels for something, it's better to buy from "good" sellers and know for sure what you're getting. 80%+ used genuine batteries can be had for the same money as new chinashit batteries that may defecate the futon in >12mo.

Was this the battery that came with a laptop, or was it one you bought standalone as a "used battery"? If it was one you got as part of the laptop, don't sweat it. Like >>60300207
said, most used laptop batteries are trashed anyway and you should always budget for a new one.

>>60300456
more people on /r/Thinkpad seem to get newer Thinkpads than /tpg/ so I found a review some guy gave of a t460p with the i7-6820HQ

"I don't have any thermal monitoring software installed, but the machine defintely heats up under load. I played a few minutes of Skyrim (which was quite playable at 1366x768, at least with my minimally-modded install), and the machine got pretty warm on the bottom close to the exhaust. This has already been noted in various places... if you want something that will run flat-out indefinitely this is not the machine for you. Under normal usage it stays cool and is basically silent (even when the fan comes on it's very quiet). I can't hear any capacitor whine."

It won't let me post the link here but the review is by a user named "binarypdx". Just search "t460p" review in /r/Thinkpad

>>60300524
It came with the laptop. And to be honest, the screen resolution on this thing isn't even maxed (I thought it could've been until like a fuckass I searched how to check, after purchasing). I thought it was a much better deal than it was. Were this regular market price with a good battery I'd've gone for something different.

So basically after "taxes" of getting a usable battery on my own goddamn time I will have more or less an exactly average deal. I fucked myself. In the future I'll look back on this cuckening shamefully and be better for myself.

>>60300456
see
>>60300156
He's only comparing two thinkpads to one Elitebook, but I get the impression that the Lenovo cooling is more efficient

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>>60300207
tfw my thinkpad has a original battery that someone else used before me and i have used it over a year and it can still run the laptop 10 hours

>>60300456
P series has 2fan

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>>60300579
You'll get better at it over time if you pay attention and learn from your mistakes. I wouldn't take the battery situation on this too hard. Screen res sounds like it may have been avoidable tho.

For instance, I had a few shekels and took a shot on an x230 from a recycler that was a -CTO make (who fucking knows the specs). Ended up with an x220 battery that wouldn't charge (that I revived with 85% capacity after the EC flash) and the IPS screen.

Another time I bought a T60p (T601 shell donor) with the UXGA IPS screen and it had fucking pressure marks in it that made it unusable and even worse, Computrace was enabled and the mobo shit itself (not that I was particularly interested, but it could have gone in the parts bin as a spare).

Sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes with a keen eye you can avoid pitfalls. But you gotta have the stake to win or lose at it if you're going to "live dangerously" on unknown type auctions.

Usually, if you get "fucked" in some way, by the time you replace parts and whatnot you still end up with an average deal.

>>60300801
The seller only showed the fucking BIOS screen. I had no idea what to do with that. I was hungry for the max res screen so this'd be a straight upgrade for me, but I asked them the res instead. I got anxious about losing my goddamn "good deal" though, so I went for it anyway. They shipped it that morning so I feel they saw my question and pretty much laughed at it.

It wasn't like your deals, though. You'd get compensation for pressure marks, and ebay might side with you for Computrace being enabled. Here I just (in ignorance) thought I was getting (or could've gotten) better than the worst case scenario.

The screen is the real thing preventing me from really sitting on this. I could've known it before purchase had I not been deluded into thinking this was a "good deal". The lowest price for this model right now on ebay doesn't have the max-res screen, but still, to upgrade to it nullifies the market undercut of the lower-res screen. It's an average deal where a seller rolling the dice on battery shenanigans made me think it could've been good.

But yeah. Not gonna let this happen in the future. At least the laptop is in excellent condition, though. And apologies for not defining it. I read a few threads ago that you can view sold listings on ebay, so I'm consciously being vague on purpose.

>>60300930
It's common sense to assume the worst spec when you aren't sure or don't know

What thinkpad made within the last 5 years can be modded to have the longest battery life? A t430 with a 9 cell battery, ultrabay 3 cell battery, and a 9 cell battery slice?

How'd I do?

>T440p - 200$ (i5)
>16 GB Ram - 90$
>i7 - 110$
>IPS Screen - 50$
>256GB SSD - 90$
>T450 Trackpad - 25$

>Total - 565$

Easily the best laptop I've ever owned.

>>60300701
Pretty sure the t460p has one fan, looked at the service manual earlier.

>>60301986
T460p is T series, not P.

>>60301809
>i7 - 110$

You retarded son?

Any objections to getting a P50s? Any glaring flaws? Seems like good all around with graphics just in case I need for my classes

I'll be using the discount so it wont cost too much

>>60302237
P51s actually

>>60302237
It's just a W550s refresh, instead of the new design that the P50 uses. I guess there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but I've heard many great things about the P50's quality.

>>60302312
the thing is i could just get a t470 with a 940MX and that would probably be well enough for some light CAD work engineering program may ask for (will ask for) senior year

>>60302237
I have it. Lenovo has been repairing it for 6 weeks, but all around it is a great machine, only thing I don't like is that it's a ULV.

Like someone else said, it's just a W550s refresh. Same chassis only with HDMI instead of VGA.

It's good, but it should have been a T560p or something, I don't think it deserves a P/W rating.

>>60302334
Do this.

>>60302351
Christ you can get 7820HQ with 3.9Ghz turbo and 940MX for $999 using the discount

Just need to insert $50 in RAM for the last 8gb

x230 wifi drivers are utter shit. What wifi card should I buy after installing coreboot?

Why is no one discussing the Intel AMT vulnerability ITT? Do none of you care that you're buying a laptop with a hardware-level rootkit as a feature, that is now proven to have non-tinfoil vulnerabilities?

>tfw NSA listens to Elitebook
https://www.reddit.com/r/RTLSDR/comments/1le3if/so_i_discovered_that_my_hp_laptop_leakstransmits/

Probably just a glitch, but it really overheats my sensibilities.

>>60302413
That's not that good of a deal. You're better off buying something like the W540 for less (which also includes graphics and can have a 3K display if you need it). The 940MX is really not that great.

>>60302520
I flashed out my ME you fucking sperg.

>>60302793
seeing that the 940MX scores more than double the performance, that the trackpoint is better in the newer thinkpads, at least compared to the W540, that they weigh less, that the processor is much less power hungry so that I wouldn't need the 99wh beast extension on an already 15 inch laptop

I guess the W540 looks like a good laptop though for half the price but my budget demands something a bit more premium (14nm processor)

>>60302899
What? The K2100 performance is nearly identical to the 940MX, the trackpoint is the same, and the processor is less power hungry because it has about half the performance.

>>60302520
no vpro/amt/me in my i5-3230m

>>60302520
I'm comfy on Penryn.

>>60302920
Oh my bad I was looking at the lowering end graphics model. But here is the higher end.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-K2000M.76893.0.html
3D mark 11 - 1798

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-940MX.156033.0.html
3D mark 11 - 2513.5

So no huge difference actually it looks, but it stands that the T470 is at least much more portable. If I had less of a budget this W540 looks like a great machine still, though I don't know if a high spec one with 99Wh could be much cheaper.

Processor speed doesn't even matter that much just that I have 16GiB RAM

>>60302978
Sounds like it fits your specs and the T4xx series is right for you, but I highly recommend the T460 instead then. Same exact performance but is cheaper and 1 gen behind. Baby lake has done close to zero in terms of performance gains, Intel is fucking bottlenecked by silicon.

>>60302958
Penryn thinkpads do have ME though. Only Merom ones (i.e. T60(p)/X60) are still safe).

>>60303010
You would be surprised though (and this is all intel can do to improve these days) with the power kaby lake gives in dedicated 4k decoder for the trendy new 4k screen devices like the Surface I am currently typing on and attempting to replace simply because the HD 520 and 8Gib RAM don't mix with more than two YouTube videos playing OR more than two different classes' powerpoints and documents sitting in the RAM

But the T460/70 aren't 4k nor touch screen devices so the 520 works just fine. I considered activating the 940m in my Surface Book still on the book for extra performance still just using Chrome.

This is actually why MacBook Pro uses Iris Pro, even Skylake gen stuff with run into trouble giving a smooth experience.

>>60302520
There was a dedicated thread about it >>60250680 but unfortunately the issue is vastly downplayed (if not plainly disregarded) in other threads, surprisingly including the /tpg/.

General situation is that all Thinkpads since the T410/T510/X201 series are affected, but only T420/T520/X220 and later will receive updated ME firmware from Lenovo (i.e. the T410, T510 and X201 will be "left for dead" in a vulnerable state). A ghetto solution it to procure SPI flashing equipment and try to use me_cleaner to erase all ME firmware partitions except the most fundamental one. This is not trivial and risks bricking the board, also it's not really known how much it actually accomplishes as ME still keeps running with the last part of ME firmware as well as its own internal ROM which is completely unknown and opaque.

>>60303132
I don't think it was downplayed here. The two groups of people here either
- don't care
- have already removed/disabled it with an SPI flash

>>60302520
You seriously expect fags who embraced chiclet keyboards, systemd, and Windows 10, and who have "nothing to fear because nothing to hide" to give a shit?

>>60303083
Penryn ME isn't affected by the recent AMT vulnerability.

>>60303132
>it's not really known how much it actually accomplishes as ME still keeps running with the last part of ME firmware as well as its own internal ROM which is completely unknown and opaque.

me_cleaner leaves about 80kb of the firmware intact. gotta be some lean-ass code if there's anything left that can still be reached out to. does leave the rom, which probably just initializes the firmware

>>60302799
>I flashed out my ME
>flashed out
>ME

You do realize that the ME is fucking HARDWARE sitting inside your CPU that has its own internal ROM which is known to Intel only, and that the ME is still running even if you used me_cleaner to erase most of the external SPI flash firmware?

Budget: 800
Location: USA
Size: 12.5 - 14.0
Performance: only i5
Other requirements: I want to be able to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 7. 6+ hours of actual use. I want it to last for 5 years or more.

>>60303410
See
>>60303262

Feel free to take off the tinfoil.

>>60303419
Any of the ULV (xx40 and after) laptops.

>>60302943
>no ME on i5-3230m

Keep believing that you cuck. Or better, source your information better. ME circuitry sits in literally every Intel CPU since Nehalem (i.e. in every Core i processor), AMT is just software that runs on top of ME which lets corporate customers use some functions of the botnet chip for their own purposes.

>>60303148
How are the proportions of these groups? 97% to 3%?

>>60303473
Pretty much.

>>60303422
>"probably"

>>60303484
This is /tpg/, not Terry Davis general.

>>60303481
>3% used me_cleaner 97% don't give a fuck
>it's not downplayed

>>60303498
Not giving a fuck doesn't mean it's downplayed, it means they're too stupid to care, or pretend they're too stupid to care because they lack the ability to remove it.

>>60303494
>there is literally nothing wrong with IME, everyone concerned about it is clinically insane
>t. Intel PR dept.

>>60303419
>>60303431
Sorry, I meant to type 500 as my budget not 800!

>>60303527
You're too retarded to do anything but parrot what shills are saying. It's been effectively neutralized, Intel themselves have put out a CVE, and Lenovo is updating BIOS'. They're not trying to hide it.

>>60303544
X240/T440 then probably, since there's no ULVs prior to that. Though normally that's not recommended because of the shit screen and the X240 only takes a single stick of RAM.

>>60303558
Okay, let's say battery life is no issue since I always use the laptop in my room, then what would you rec? x220/t420

>>60303578
If you like classic keyboard and don't want to fuck with hardmodding, yeah, one of those. Otherwise the 30 series for the upgrades in hardware and modding ability.

>>60303262
Does stuff such as PXE boot work after using me_cleaner? Normally NICs had this capability in their dedicated boot ROM, but knowing Intel and given that it's all their NICs on vPro/AMT systems, it wouldn't surprise if NIC boot ROM was merged into AMT firmware.

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Plugged in a pair of headphones, dropped my thinkpad on the headphone jack side by accident and now the headphone jack is fucked (sound is distorted). What do?

>>60303599
>>60303599
Okay, thanks. I had already ordered a T420 with 1600x900 display but the sender sent one with a lower res ~700p

m x220 screen broke due to a incideny and now i fucked. i have finals this week and i wish i had my computer to study outside my place.

I could order the screenpart but its almost 90 bucks and the fucking shipping for 2 days is 15 dollars and it doesnt give me the option to become a amazon prime account and have free 2 day shipping.

my x220 costed me 200 bucks and the freaking screen is almost 100 bucks plus shipping. is it worth it? what do? plz help

>>60291731
what dock do you use?

>>60297774
z series were the first thinkpads completely designed by lelnovo.
try harder fag.

>>60298817
for 200eurocucks I'd buy them
the parts alone are worth much more.

>>60300152
>They said the battery life isn't guaranteed, but I didn't expect actual trash.
wow, it's fucking nothing, you might be actually retarded

>>60303938
eBay you retard.

>>60303938
For now I'd just plug it into an external monitor til you're done with school. If you see yourself using it for another couple of years, replace the screen and move on. Being clumsy is expensive.

Failing that, see if you can land a busted x220 with a working screen or a used whole lid for less money than the screen itself. Sometimes (often?) people get rid of whole assemblies cheaper than you can get specific parts.

My sis got a T430 and its screen is flickering hardcore. I think it might be a hardware issue since it got a little worse when I moved the hinges. But just to be sure, do any of you guys know any issue with this model that might be related? btw it was pre-installed with W10 [spoiler]yeah, I know.[/spoiler]

>>60304152
[spoiler]nice spoiler there[/spoiler]

>>60304152
Reseat the screen ribbon cable. That may in and of itself fix the problem at least temporarily. Make sure it's not binding on anything. Next (slightly more invasive) step would be replace the ribbon cable itself.

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Anybody interested in a T430 BIOS patcher? The magic bytes are the same each time, I don't know why retards have to keep asking people from bios-mods.com to do it when a simple diff patch could take care of it automatically.

>>60304186
(after actually dumping the BIOS obviously)

>>60304176
I was thinking of trying that myself, thanks for the feedback.

>>60304186
>>60304192

In my opinion if it's not 100% turnkey, people will still bitch because they don't understand and it's too hard to use. You're right though that some of it could be more user-friendly.

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>>60304269
SPI dump goes in, modded BIOS goes out.

You can't explain that.

>>60303633
Have you checked with another pair of headphones to see if it's the connector or the socket?

>>60304282
I guess I didn't understand - I thought you were saying they'd have to dump the BIOS themselves, then your patcher would take over and actually create the patch file. Then it'd be back on the user to create the BIOS patch USB and execute.

>>60304472
T430 is hardware flash. You dump the BIOS, my patcher mods it, you flash it back. Currently most people have no idea how to mod their bios and have someone from bios-mods do it for them.

>>60304494
Christ, just disregard, I suck cocks. I'm half-remembering my EC firmware flash on my x230 from 3 years ago and I'm drunk.

You're correct of course. I'm out.

>>60304551
The EC flash is already near fully automated.

>>60296779
next thing: to make the APS work on xx30 series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUCZJVJ_M8o

>>60305054

is this 2005?

>>60302237
I have a normal P50. It's the best laptop I've ever had, and my top ThinkPad. $1000 for IPS, switching graphics that don't suck, and an i7 seemed worth it at the time.

>>60300187
I'm not even the 2570p guy. Lelnopevovo just sounds funny you autismal aspie.

>>60289398
For starters, I stop berating peoples' hardware when I'm the one too stupid to shield the PCB on my gaming toy.

>>60294316
>short life connector in your express card slot
what.
Maybe your thinkpad-tier quality of express card slot is short, but this is not the case here.
Also new 2570p motherboard costs $25 where I live. I see no problem in replacing it every year.

>>60304033
gdc v8 beast.
The only choice desu if you use ec x1 2.0 link, because it doesn't fail like previous generations and it has actual working detachable hdmi cable
I had PE4L v2.1b module previously and it was shit, especially due to soldered hdmi cable which breaks very easily.

>>60300349
45-60+fps at 2560x1080 and everything set to medium.
The bottleneck is 2GB vRAM.

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>>60305364
kys

hi

>>60305304
>too stupid to shield the PCB on my gaming toy
Why are you so aggressive?
I don't see a good reason to ""shield it"", whatever the fuck it's supposed to mean.
Tomorrow I'm gonna hide in completely in my desk, so there is only hdmi>ec cable around.

>>60305444
>kys
Is that all you have to say?
What does your picture prove? That T420s motherboard also costs $25?
Nice! You can also replace your motherboard if your ec port "wears", which won't likely happen in 2570p.

Your reasoning is truly retarded.

>>60305292
lelnovo and chinknovo are better tho

>>60305387
>gdc v8 beast
what monitor?

>>60305406
>750 ti
I don't believe you

>>60305456
piss offf

>>60305387
Post full hardware specs not just laptop pls.

>>60300187
X230 sucks, 2570p superior.
But the X220 especially sucks, with it's shit Sandy Bridge :3
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miI64JG6TlY
You're the uatustist, autist!

>>60300619
It is, Lenovo had the much better design. Dell E6420's with i7 were notorious for overheating.

>>60305545
>sauc
You should join the Telegram channel: https://t.me/dankpads

>>60305615
fuck off with your shit. if you want to discuss thinkpads do it here.

>>60305615
If barely anyone uses the IRC channel, what makes you think that they will be willing to blow their anonymity and go to a Telegram group? Even on IRC you can make up a name and IP, you know.

New Thread.

>>60305948
>>60305948
>>60305948

>>60305615
GTFO with your telegram shit.
No one cares about it and you are a shit promoter.

>>60303633
What ThinkPad is it? Might have a daughter board
Most likely it wont.

>>60302520
Its been discussed already.
It's not that big of a deal

>>60297529
I believe he wanted to charge money for modified bios and some of them went bad.
He was a dumb shit to think people would of paid more than 3 times.
IDK but he got a bad rep with the guys on the german forum.

>>60305304
lol u got him rekt

>>60289398
probably be pissed because my FHD T430s isn't used for a fucking game.
>fully featured
>can't do VR gaming
>cant do 4K
>fully featured and not even a GTX 1070
Also I would just put it away and probably use my A31p

>>60286956
Bosozoku it

>>60305545
>stealing my home insurance joke

fuck you

>>60305997
>>fully featured and not even a GTX 1070
I don't recall saying the eGPU is fully featured. I said the laptop is.