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>Guide
https://pastebin.com/sjtf7ALL

>What is GNUnet?
GNUnet is a fully decentralised p2p framework for a number of applications, the most commonly used one (probably) is filesharing
More info:
https://gnunet.org/goals
https://gnunet.org/concepts
>Why use GNUnet over private trackers?
Private trackers:
>have to keep up a seed ratio or you're thrown out
>have to attach an account to your searches and requests
>have to trust that the private tracker's owner won't leak your details anywhere
>uploading must be approved
GNUnet:
>no seeding requirement
>no account needed
>no trusted 3rd parties needed
>no way to trace any traffic back to you, unless you set anonymity to 0
>even just searching for content can be done via GNUnet's anonymous protocol
>anyone can publish anything
>no way for publishers to know who's downloading
>no way for downloaders to know who's publishing (except via optional namespaces)
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>>60194624
So how do we put nyaa into it? Second what prevents gnunet from becoming a CP infested hellscape?
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>>60194808
who says it isnt?
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>>60194624
GNUnet is my new favorite
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Is this the future?
Can we finally have a file sharing technology that just werks, again?
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>>60194808
>what prevents gnunet from becoming a CP infested hellscape?
Nothing, it already is. Using GNUnet will just end up with you unwittingly hosting CP on your computer and becoming a valid target for the FBI

It's a neat technology that is ruined by degenerates
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>>60195232
>GNUnet
>just werks
You're going to have way less people seeding because of the hoops they have to jump through to set it up
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Anything to ensure quality control on this? Is it going to turn into a sea of poor quality uploads and viruses?
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>>60195308
You could add the quality in the keywords, I suppose.

We really should get a proper wiki page on this.
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>>60195394
Anyway people can rate files good/bad? What about user comments? How do you know your not just downloading gigabytes of dolphin porn?
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just use demonsaw it's bigger and easier
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>>60195265
>It's a neat technology that is ruined by degenerates

just like everything else
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>GPL

No, thanks
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GNUchan when
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>>60195429
Not a rating system/user comments from what I can tell, but you can see the metadata of a file being downloaded. No real way to check if something is legit or not, but the same could be said for torrents.

One could probably set up a site that indexes gnURLs and allows for rating/comments, similar to TPB or something.
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This has to be the worst piece of software I've ever used.
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>Anonymous
Am I anonymous from my ISP or should I also use a VPN?
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how do i fucking install this shit on windows?
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>>60194624
>aboriginal flag
what did they mean by this?
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>>60195690
You have to compile it. lol
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>>60195639
This this this so much this
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So, have anyone found anything interesting on this fabulous network?
I see only few files and most of them have 0% availability.
Also is it possible to somehow see if anyone is downloading from me? I tried uploading several ebooks and can't see any response.
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>>60196176
I'm currently uploading the Ghost in the Shell original movie. Can be found searched via: mp4, ghost. Although more like a test than something else. Search up "pdf" and wait a while for pdfs to pop up. You'll find some pdfs with "top secret" and security.
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>>60194624
how does this work in comparison to Tor and why should I trust this when even the NSA has ways to track you when using Tor?
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>>60195265
>Using GNUnet will just end up with you unwittingly hosting CP on your computer
>unwittingly
That's some tech illiteracy right there
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>>60196295
You don't even have a shred of anonymity in the internet. Even the tightly secured airgapped nuclear facilities can be hacked, why does someone deceive itself that they can defend themselves against such agencies? Your best bet would be hiding your furry stash from your boss but that's it.
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Both the TCP and UDP transports fail with the default config. Do I have to forward the port on my router as well? Can't really tell from the site.
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>>60196295
https://gnunet.org/concepts

"no easy way to know who sent what" sums it pretty well
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>>60196386
Is it a new tor? Or freenet?
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>>60196393
just filesharing for now, but they will soon expand
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>>60196295
>" we assume that the adversary can see all the traffic on the Internet. And while we assume that the adversary can not break our encryption, we assume that the adversary has many participating nodes in the network and that it can thus see many of the node-to-node interactions since it controls some of the nodes."

>Hiding actions in the traffic of other users requires participating in the traffic, bringing back the traditional technique of using indirection and source rewriting.


tl;dr:
Enjoy being used to traffic cp.
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>>60196442
just what the buttmad NSA would say
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>>60196469
It's only a matter of time before a glaring issue si found and it turns out the NSA can track the original sender and figure out what he is sending.
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>>60196486
k
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Guys, if you could change the interface, what would you do? I mean specific stuff
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>>60196551
for starters use QT instead of GTK.
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>>60194624
I would consider installing ubuntu for this if it had content.
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>>60196551
Make the statistics show meaningful values and have a time axis that makes sense
Rewrite the fs-gtk list so it works with dark themes and tiling wms (I can't see the metadata column on narrow windows)
also
>>60196602
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>>60196551
Get rid of the godawful tab images, and replace them with just text. By the looks of it, they embed other GTK applications (seeing as though gnunet-fs-gtk can be started separately, which saves you from seeing the fucking images). Shouldn't be too hard, in theory.

Then again, I have no idea how GTK works, so this is all just me guessing.

>>60196602
This.
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GNUnet require root to be installed.
Discarded.
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I found i2p to be interesting and a bit more mature than GNUnet. Any i2p sites worth a damn to look up?
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>>60194624
I wish it was less of a pain to use on terminal. You're making me install a WM for that shit
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>>60196788
The terminal interface isn't so bad. If you really need a proper interface, but for some reason are too retarded to use a WM, what's stopping you from making an ncurses interface for it?
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>>60196262
Can't see shit. Even after half an hour search. Maybe not all the nodes see all the others? (no, I have no idea how this network works..or is supposed to)
There are some results for "avi", "epub", etc, but nothing worth of interest.
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How do I use this on windows?
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>>60196892
I only get 3 results searching for avi, 4 searching for epub. is that normal?
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>>60196925
Also is anyone using the Arch package? Does running it as a systemd service work? Anyone got a working example gnunet.conf?
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>>60196887
I'm retarded
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We need someone working on a web interface working on loopback. Any up to the challenge? The devs are in #gnunet on freenode.

They are working in a web version btw https://gnunet.io/
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>>60196262
>>60196892
Oh yes, Ghost in the shell showed up under "ghost" (no result under "mp4"). But the availability is 0% and there doesn't seem to be any progress, at least this early. Did you increase your speed limits? My default upload limit was 1024 B/s.
>>60196925
I have six results for "avi" now and four for "epub" (three of them are my uploads)
Looks like you may find several results almost immediately and some other after tens of minutes, maybe more, who knows.
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How is this different than IPFS?
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>>60197085
i put it at like 5000000 bytes or whatever it is
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Retroshare masterrace.
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GNUnet ftw
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>>60194624
i2p is better
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>>60197239
how?
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>>60197239
I'm starting to agree. I2p is pretty damn easy to configure, it has built-in browser functionality, and it just seems more reasonable to use.
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>>60196723
hiddenbooru
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>>60195308
>>60195429
eMule used to make use of these great/good/OK/bad/really bad icons, plus users could add comments to files. Not sure why basically every p2p thing since then didn't have something similar.
Oh how I wish there was a modern equivalent with IPv6 support and decent encryption that's easy enough to use so that millions of users across the world could simply share their stuff with everyone.
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>>60197239
not really
identical files are not colluded
meaning if the one person sharing it goes offline it's gone, and/or we end up with countless differently named unsortable duplicates

whereas on gnunet, if two unrelated people publish a file with an identical hash (independent of file name and tags), they will be treated as the same and you can/will leech from both
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>>60197309
Is it like danbooru?
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>>60197326
i2p is not really only for file sharing. its more like tor but better.
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>>60197313
Guys, there is thing thing called gnunet zones you want to check, they are meant as a "rating" system
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>>60197154
Retroshare looks like a perfect social network than filesharing service
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>>60197326
>meaning if the one person sharing it goes offline it's gone, and/or we end up with countless differently named unsortable duplicates
wtf are you talking about. i2p is a network level protocol, you run other filesharing layer over it like torrents
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>>60197633
>i2p is a network level protocol
so is GNUnet, and even a better protocol
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>>60194624
>Showing the old GUI, screenshot the new GUI faggot
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>>60197347
i guess.
the images are well tagged and it's active
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>>60194624
Looks like ass like most loonix software. Year of the linux desktop never ever
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>>60194624
I'll take a look at it in 2-3 years from now. If it has a reasonably sized user base by then, a good windows client, and isn't just for pedos sharing cp, then maybe I'll start using it
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>>60198104
pedos using something is often a great sign
shows that whatever is actually legit/secure/trustable
they pave the way and pull the rest of us forward
the only good things left in modernity we owe to those with unspeakable fetishes
thank you sickos, thank you for fighting the good fight and trying to keep the world and future a little less bleak
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>>60198358
>shows that whatever is actually legit/secure/trustable
kek, truth thou
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>>60198358
pedos are retards. they just trade links to their whatsapp groups on the darknet sites
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>>60198358
That's why I said "isnt just for pedos". Obviously if it is truly secure and anonymous degenerates will flock to it. Having a platform who's main user base are kiddyfiddlers is not something I want to be a part of if I'm doing perfect legitimate things, or even lesser crimes such as piracy.
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Why this over freenet?
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>>60198482
Freenet is capacity limited.
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just keep posting this
or someone make a better one because this is somehow confusing to some people

freenet
>good luck inserting anything of significant size into the network, let alone in a timely manner
>there are multiple copies of whatever you insert, but nothing like peers of a torrent
>unpopular things not being actively downloaded die very quickly
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>>60198464
this. they're retarded enough to get caught by having javascript enabled
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>>60198671
you only hear about retarded pedos because they're the only ones that get caught
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>>60197877
> a better protocol
not hard to beat i2p when it comes to protocol fuckyness.
doesn't matter as i2p has more momentum and users.
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More hops, more security.
Less hops, more perfomance.
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>>60196412

>soon

LEL
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>>60198482
freenet doesn't have a native implementation and the devs actively oppose the creation of one.
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>>60194624
>Last release: 3 years ago
It seems dead.
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>>60198995
It's not.
I've lurked their freenode room for years.
It's quite active, they're just not big on official releases.
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>>60195283
>sudo apt-get install gnunet-gtk
Wow, hard.

The only thing wrong with it right now is the UI, fix that and it's easy as shit, especially if you just use it for filesharing. Functionally it's nigh flawless.
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>>60199143
Most anime watching faggots don't even use linux
I don't even think they know how to use a terminal
These are the people that continue to shill KCP
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>>60199143
If only we had a web ui
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>>60199222
Would a Wangblows version be difficult?
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>>60198828
if gnunet is already too hard for normies to grasp, i2p is impossible, it won't take off without some retard-proof UI.
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>>60199143
if you're installing from the terminal, you might as well use the cli for everything

the output of gnunet-search is the verbatim gnunet-download command you want to run

protip: run searches in the background (with a timeout) and pipe the output to a file
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>>60199222
No one cares about Wintards.
They shall not be catered to.
If they can see how great this is and have grown sick of the unusable disgusting prisons, they can step up and join us.
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>>60194624
Add to the OP https://gnunet.org/developerintroduction to bring developers
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>>60199484
May add to the pastebin also
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>>60196412
>but they will soon expand
>soon
@GNUnet - 2009
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>>60198669
based GNU net
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>>60198669
Capitalize, nigger.
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>>60197029
`man gnunet.conf` has a full example, but if you installed the gui package there's a `gnunet-setup` command that will do it for you
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>>60200281
the man page had a different bootstrap server that did not work, I had to use the one from here https://gnunet.org/configuring-hostlist-bootstrap. My main concern is that the instructions on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNUnet don't seem to work. Just curious how other people are running it on Arch.
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>>60200432
On Manjaro. Not sure if those awful icons in OP's pic only appear once connected to other peers. No status, or error messages appear on the UI.
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>>60198358
I disagree. Sure you hear once in a while about the FBI running a tor exit node or something to catch a huge pedo ring.

But for every one of those you hear about 10 cases of the Geek Squad reporting some guy with a pedo screensaver
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I can barely find any files when I search, what's up with that?
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>>60200742
see >>60198712
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>>60200724
That red x in the bottom left means you're not connected to the network. You need to run 'gnunet-arm -s', and possibly update the configuration
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>>60200724
This is the gnunet-fs-gtk interface. The "toy" interface is gnunet-gtk.
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Anyone talk with the devs to see what the hold up is on the newer version?
I took a look at the bug tracker and I was surprised to see it was pretty active.
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>>60200795
Thanks.
Thread FYI, there is a separate GUI to configure GNUnet comprised of 4 tabs.
Screencaps inbound.. 1of4
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NEW PASTEBIN: https://pastebin.com/28cU8SmN
With improvements and more useful information.
If this thread somehow ends and someone were to make a new OP, make sure to use this updated pastebin.
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2of4
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>only available as source

>only available on linux
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>>60200921
>vagina ascii art
why.jpg

>the interface looks bad blah blah

Stop legitimizing this horseshit. A program doesn't need to look like a fucking phone app to be valid
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>>60200955
virtual machine?
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>>60195639
+1
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>>60200997
A workaround to a problem does not eliminate the problem.
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>>60200921
I don't get why things like pastebin like this are necessary when their official wobsite is much more informative, navigable, and looks nice.
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>>60200997
Not him, but, THAT is an excellent idea for windows people. that would be way easier to setup than trying to compile.
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>>60201064
We've been recommending this over trying to compile for wangblows from day one.
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>>60201036
The pastebin is mostly just nothing more than a quickstart guide really

>>60200984
ascii art removed, FAQ slightly changed. although really i never seen any other program even from other GNU projects or FOSS projects that has big images that doesn't make sense as tabs. the interface is alright especially when you remove those images out of view, beside people are not wanting it to be like a phone app or something

https://pastebin.com/KBb31i8j
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>>60201064
Am the one you replied to, going to try it out literally right now. Never used linux before, wish me luck.
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>>60201030
And yet we're still supposed to accept workarounds to a proper gtk file-picker dialog.
>Just drag and drop from the file manager :^)
Cunts
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>>60201202
Very few people ever use Linux directly.
Like the rest of us, you'll be using GNU.
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>>60201202
If you use Manjaro in a VM, Look for pic related.
Good hunting.
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>>60194624
What version are you using that the icons look like ass?

My copy, gnunet-gtk-0.10.1_pre01021 looks like this.


Also, why are my searches giving no results?
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>>60201283
Stallman pls.
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>>60196551
Use ncurses keyboard based client.
No mouse shit.
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>>60201301
Your red dot in the lower-left corner says your not connected to the network.
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>>60201171
keep doing god's work anon
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>>60201380
I second this
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Looks like dog shit
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>>60199143
>> fix the UI
Well if it is one thing that /g/ does right it's making logos.
So /g/ how would you fix the UI?
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Anyone else who installed from repo have to start it with root priv just to get it to do something?
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>>60201459
Make it ncurses vim kebinded.
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>>60201384
That would make sense, except...
I dicked around with gnunet-setup, then restarted the service, and now it's giving a few results while still saying I'm not connected. Weird.
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>>60196551
It would be cool if the client window had a text-based status box that showed what was happening, and show helpful error messages.
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>>60201479
According to the test in >>60200948 my connection failed but I still get search results.
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>>60201479
>>60201521

That is odd. At least you guys have some results. I haven't gotten that far yet. still going thru the docs... we'll crack this egg yet.
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>>60199222
>Most anime watching faggots don't even use linux
Who cares, the less, the better. Besides, the genuine retards will flock over to CR or some shit instead of going to the subber/ripper sites.
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speaking from old experience on systemdebian, i sometimes had to
$ pkill gnunet
(the recommended gnunet-arm -e would not work)
then restart it
$ gnunet-arm -s
before it would work/connect properly
so if you're having trouble give this a try
haven't had this issue on guixsd though
and a reminder that the version in your distro"s repos is prolly not compatible with the current git people are compiling
because of this the network is completely fragmented right now
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>>60201479
About that ghost in the shell thing, my computer hosting it is off now. You might or might not be able to see the index, but you won't be able to download it. I might use gnunet on my server or raspberry pi to host the content continuously.

>>60201571
Restarting gnunet might help
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I'd love to have an alternative, but I don't want any cheese pizza. 2D loli is fine, pizza is not.
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>>60194624

Is there a gnunet available for synology nas devices?
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>>60201474
I use sudo
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>>60201283
Fuck off.
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>>60201610
I can't imagine anything with such a buzzword meme name not being horrifically harmful.
GNUnet is free software though - Feel free to use and modify it however your needs require.
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>>60201583
>$ pkill gnunet
>$ gnunet-arm -s
You sir are a gentleman
>systemdebian
a very well educated gentleman
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>>60194808
>>60195265

yeah.. I'm interested in what prevents gnunet end nodes from being raided for cp some degenerate elsewhere in the cloud shares.
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>>60195265
I have never seen a single iota of offensive content on gnunet.
That you come here and just assert bullshit like this in a smear campaign attempt is just disgusting.
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>>60200820
>gnunet-gtk
doesn't work on wayland fyi
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>>60201709
read about basic cryptography or something
your node will never pass anything but meaningless seemingly random numbers
there will never be cp on your computer unless you put it there
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>>60201785

It's not a smear, it's a legitimate concern.

We have some russian dude in prison because illegal material passed through his TOR exit node, and if this uses similar onion routing, it's only a matter of time.

I want to know what's different about gnunet that would protect you from a visit by your local SWAT team.
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>>60201858
>implying anything will protect you from a motivated power that wants you removed
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>>60201788
Oh, is that my problem? (Gnome)
Luckily, the CLI is based and all I need.
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>>60201858
your computer will only have random, encrypted and incomplete gibberish unless you specifically decide you want otherwise

is that a good enough english to you?
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>>60201957
gnunet-fs-gtk works fine, it's the GUI in the OP that is broken
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>>60201975
>your computer will only have random, encrypted and incomplete gibberish unless you specifically decide you want otherwise
>is that a good enough english to you?


Yeah yeah I get it, but if FBI-kun pulls up a CP image on search, hits download, and I happen to be the unlucky final peer in the onion routing system, then some perv I don't know gets to jerk off to abused kids while the FBI gets an excuse to turn my house upside down and play "find any charge at all to pin on the search-ee"
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>>60194624
So why this and not Retroshare?
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>>60201858
Do you understand what a Tor exit node is?

[pedo] -> (tor) -> [exit node] -> (normal internet) -> pizza

(tor) traffic is obscured and safe so long as you're not retarded.
[exit node] has a norm outside world ip address and is allowing those through the (tor) to access sites on the real internet.
I don't know what actually happened to this guy, but yes, if your computer was used to access something illegal and watched for, of course you would get in trouble for this.
Same thing would happen if you replace (tor) with (GNUnet).
This isn't a problem with the dark networks themselves.

As far as has been described, GNUnet is internally secure and anonymous.
So long as there is a single other uncompromized node, no one will be able to tell who received what files if any.
There is never any `cache of cp' on your machine to get in trouble for, only packets of random numbers.
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>>60202099
>I happen to be the unlucky final peer in the onion routing system
you don't really understand how GNUnet works don't you?

read a little from their website, this is not tor
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>>60202099
That's not how this works or how anyone gets in trouble.
Please inform yourself about basic crypto before spreading any more misinformation.
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wow, the weebs will achieve what you dweebs couldn't
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>>60202136
>>60202152


You forget the tech illiteracy of government officials, law enforcement, judges, and juries.

They walk into a court to request a warrant.
They present a picture of horrible perversion and a log of several ip's, one of which might be yours, where it came from.

within the hour they have a swat team kicking in your door, and they "incidentally" find your weed, or your other, normal TPB downloads of hollywood movie x, and off you go for 5 years.
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>>60201573
>>60199365
>the less the better
That's not how you get more content.

Fuck you freetards are fucking stupid.
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>>60202175
Again, this has nothing to do with the networks.
If this is your worry, I recommend cleaning up and jumping on the `nothing to hide' train, because the witch hunting is only going to get worse from here.
I'm instead choosing to fight.
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So this is just another cp hub.
Welp, back to shitposting.
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>>60202199
I'd rather be alone with nothing than surrounded by idiot manchildren.
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>>60202220
Oh, guess I'll stop trying to set it up then. Thanks.
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>>60202220
>>60202269
fuck off troll

guys don't answer to this bait, he is probably from the FBI or some butthurt place like that
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>>60202214
>If this is your worry, I recommend cleaning up and jumping on the `nothing to hide' train, because the witch hunting is only going to get worse from here.
>I'm instead choosing to fight.


One is copyright, the other is CP.

Corporations enforce copyright through primarily civil means and occasionally nag law enforcement into "making an example" once every 3-6 years.

Law enforcement and politicians aggressively chase CP rings and arrest them by the thousands in violent raids, showing no mercy.

I fight my battles, not the battles of irredeemable perverts.
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>>60202311
Why would anyone need anonimity if they got nothing to hide.
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>>60202344
you fight for and to uphold the rights of all people (not just the ones that happen to affect you), or ultimately you're working against yourself and all of us
pedos are people too
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>>60202352
good question, here is another, how to I prevent any government from killing its people for sharing different ideas?
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>>60202175
>implying that it wasn't intended this way
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I'm trying it out now
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>when the FBI talks you out of filesharing but they can't do shit and you just do it anyway
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>>60194624
Reminds me of the pre-internet, AOLnet portal.

Except made in with the shit GNU image editing software.
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>>60201858
I was curious about this too. Specifically how Gnunet differs from Freenet in regards to security.

Currently the main way to attack Freenet is to create Fed operated nodes that run a modified version of freenet. These nodes then keep track of the sort of content passing through them and how it's being distributed. By observing statistical data on how the data is being distributed to other connected users one can make inferences about whether or not a given peer is likely to be the original requester.

Since they then know what content was requested and have a likely target then they may request a warrant and nail the person. So far this has only been used for CP but the technique isn't super sophisticated.

I also don't see how it can be fixed. It seems you will always have a tradeoff between efficiency and security in such a system.
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Has anybody gotten the latest GNUnet git version compiled and working on Arch? I got it compiled but it doesn't run right, no graphs in gnunet-gtk or anything. At least with 0.10.1 I get almost no connections but it shows its running.

IRC won't help if you have 0.10.1 because it's too old.

I'm really hoping for an alternative router software.
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>>60203442
have you tried pkill gnunet then restart it gnunet-arm -s?
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>>60203820
Lots of times. Are you doing GNUnet as it's own user, running it as your regular user, or using root?
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>>60198669
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>>60204060
freenet `data redundancy' is even different from what the others mean by that
there are multiple copies of things out in the network, but you can't like become a seeder of whatever if you want if you happen to have the same file

everything you've always wanted, dreamed of, and asked for:
gnunet [x]
freenet [ ]
i2p [ ]
ipfs [ ]
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Is there more?
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>>60196723
postman is kinda decent
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>>60205105
I was looking at it, it has quite a bit of anime, but I wish it had the same sort of structure as nyaa. God dammit this sucks.
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So, can I right now upload 1TB of data in GNUNet and be able to access it later?
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>>60205138
yeah its still not that great atm

once i tried to install gazelle (the software what.cd and other private trackers use) but i couldnt get it to work on i2p :^(
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I'm getting a load of errors when trying to arm it.
I'm running it on VirtualBox with Elementary OS..
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>>60205545
Also I didn't make it clear but I'm a Linux noob thus the Virtual machine.
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>>60205545
the permission issues lead me to believe that elementary must be one of the ones where you have to run it with sudo or as root
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The few files the client finds have 0% availability.
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>>60205715
until they push the next main release and it makes it"s way into the major distros (and thus we're all using the same compatible version)
the network is going to remain totally fragmented like this
it's really unfortunate that it's stuck in this weird limbo right now, just when a chance opened up for it to be the next great thing
it'll get there and hopefully soon
if nothing else i'm just glad that more people are aware it exists
i don't see how anyone car read their about page and mission statements and not be fully behind and stoked for this
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>>60205829

gnunet is great for data redundancy, large files, and decentralization, but you DONT want to be using the "anonymizing" feature if you want to avoid V&, because pedos will use you as a shield.

So long as anonymizing can be turned off so you're not passing on other people's data, just sharing your own, it should be fine.
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>half the people on Linux can't get it working
>haven't seen a single Windows user compile successfully

is this the ultimate private tracker? no invites and hazing, but only accessible to the tech-literate and truly determined?
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>>60206058
How can I get people like you to stop spreading lies and misinformation?
How much are they paying you to do this?

The anonymity level you set is only relevant to your downloads - If GNUnet is running, your machine is still being used to help route those evil pedos dirty numbers.
Freedom for all, or freedom for none.
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>>60202174
I'm finding this amusing as well. Here's this viable protocol that could prove invaluable in this day of mass surveillance that no one has really done jack shit with despite bemoaning the current state of things. All of a sudden a chinese cartoon DL hub goes offline and it's a scramble to rebuild/reinvent the internet. Screw rights and privacy, it's all about CGDCT.
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Is it possible to publish a whole directory with gnunet-fs-gtk?
If I click on File sharing -> Publish -> Add directory, it is not possible to select anything
And clicking "Create empty directory" just creates empty directory, but there seems to be no way to add anything into it.
What am I missing?
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>>60202199
Don't bother with them. This should spread while >>60202235 will stay and die alone.
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>>60206584
Why not just archive the directory in question? You could even go mental and compress it too.
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>>60195265
You're thinking of Freenet anyways.
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>>60206606
I wanted to upload a directory with several episodes of a tv show. Uploading them one by one takes long and compressing them into one archive prevents you from downloading just one episode.
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>>60206680
Fair enough. I haven't downloaded it yet; is it full of cp like the last couple of p2p net things I've tried? Degenerates ruin everything cool. Trying to be /cyb/ and they harsh my buzz, d00dorz.
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>>60206680
why would someone want to only get one episode?
Unless its a weekly release, seasonal/volume archives would be better I would think.
Still, it's things like this that beg for better documentation. Like could one upload an uncompressed directory and if so, add to it later?
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>>60194624
>no seeding requirement
You do have to contribute your upload.
>>60195265
>you unwittingly hosting CP
hosting encrypted CP. It's impossible to prove it's actual CP.
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Someone better be seeding that Sono Hanabira hentai when I get home it's been stuck at 64% since we last did this.
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>>60206820
Whatever you say, pee doh
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>>60195675
Your ISP will just see completely random traffic going to random random nodes of the network.
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>>60206765
For example if you want to see the first episode immediately and then continue downloading the following while you watch it. Or you can be constrained by bandwidth/disk space.
There is something mentioned in the documentation, but I didn't get it
https://gnunet.org/book/export/html/1606
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publishing directories is possible in gnunet and it's awesome
someone then can download the whole thing or any single file within
you can also change/update them
no more of this blind static versioned archive nonsense please
check out the examples in
$ man gnunet-publish
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>>60206911
fair enough
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>>60206911
Ok, from that I gather that it would be possible to add content to a directory as long as it originates from the same namespace.
This is making me long for my younger years when it was easier to pick up on new stuff quickly. Ah, well. Practice, patience and hope that the next version is more defined.
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>>60206108
I like the way you think.
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>>60195265
>degenerates
Stallman would be disappointed anon.
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It's like I'm back in eMule, seeing a bunch of [email protected] in my search results.
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>>60206820
Have fun explaining that to judges and lawyers.
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>>60194624
I'm testing it and have put an old CP video, just to see how it goes.
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The only problem is that there is no rating system, so glorious nippon could upload a bunch of 'FUCK YOU GAIJIN' videos/viruses instead of actual anime.

So can you make a decentralized rating system?

Or fuck just get release groups to release a PGP with every release. Because let's face it, you're gonna trust an 'official horriblesubs upload' more than you trust a fucking 5 star rating system.

Although it would help if there was some way to curate such groups
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>>60208057
>running lolianime#456.mp4.exe
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>>60207992
Please set your anonymity to 0 please!

Thanks, John Fred FBI agent
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>>60208079
No need to, the search function is broken.
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>>60208057
if you just want your anime fansubs you can still download torrents from each respective group.
For example Horriblesubs has an RSS feed with all their releases, I'm still getting all my anime automatically downloaded when Sickrage sees it's available.
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>>60194624
>>60201301
OK, why does it need those big ass icons? And no, the new icons are not better, they are equally horrible. It's like spraypainting dogshit with blue paint.
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Don't these sort of systems fail for older and less poplar things?
Popular and new anime will always be available but access to older stuff is the issue, does this solve that?
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>>60208160
I don't know, just ask the developer. They could have just done with word, but apparently not.
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>>60208160
>surprised when a developer is autistic enough to make a cp haven p2p protocol but too autistic to design a gui
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>>60207900
If judges and lawyers stop caring about these sort of things, nothing else matters and nothing will be able to protect you from a power that wants you gone, regardless of what you have or haven't done.
This should undermine how silly a fear this is.
If one being innocent until they are proven guilty goes out the window, all is lost and not even having nothing to hide will protect you.

If you trust the gnunet devs (feel free to audit it yourself if you need further assurance), you can have confidence that:
-unless you put it there, there will never be anything but packets of meaningless seemingly random numbers passed by your computer
-no one will monitoring network traffic will be able to tell what files if any you downloaded

You understand neither due process nor basic crypto and I really wish you would just leave us alone.
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>>60208057
please for the love of god will you people read about gns and zones
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>>60194624
why is the aboriginal flag of australia there?
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>>60208178
> Don't these sort of systems fail for older and less poplar things?
Not really. But they won't be a flawless archive.

> Popular and new anime will always be available but access to older stuff is the issue, does this solve that?
Anything that is made available is made available.

It doesn't "solve" anything with regards to encouraging people to be systematic about making things available.
Typically this is more the job of systematic indexes / registries that show what is and what isn't available - people from the internet may pitch in and fill the gaps.
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When are you autists going to make accessible infographics for /mu/, /tv/, or any other subs that make heavy use of filesharing? We'll need boots on the ground to actually spoonfeed the tech-illiterates in there if we want any decent content floating around GNUnet.
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So, how does it work? What are you "seeding"? Just the things that you download/publish or is there some other thing? If there is another thing, what kind of space does it use to keep that?
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>>60194624
Trying it on Gentoo with user permissions and not getting any result from the search (tried terms like "stallman" - doesn't seem to return results).

pkill / gnunet-arm were attempted & gnunet-core, -peerinfo and -statistics suggest that I have peers and some kind of traffic.

gnunet-search -VL DEBUG "stallman" seems to remain completely silent on the terminal, which I find quite suspicious

Is there anything that might produce more helpful diagnostics output?
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>>60209161
As I said before in >>60208092 the search function is broken.
You need to use exact file name.
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>>60209177
So this is a many years old project that can't do a basic file search on the only component that allegedly works, the file sharing engine?

Or is it just this way on the current git? (Any idea at what revision it worked?)
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>>60209177
so if I type it in allcaps like a cruising for a bruising autist I get nothing?
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>>60209229
Pretty much.
I'm using the one in the AUR.
>>60209233
Try searching for "01.mp3"
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>>60209177
>>60209229
gnunet-arm --version
gnunet-arm v0.10.1 release

Search works for me and for others on this thread obviously too.
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>>60209151
I have only just gotten started but it certainly has a local data cache for encrypted data fragments and the DHT table, like other such networks.
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>>60194624
>No way to know who's publishing
I too like span and viruses.
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>>60209253
> Pretty much.
That's not exactly outstanding even for something in active development.

>>60209258
I get the exact same version string from the git version, heh.

But I guess I'll try to pull the release.
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>>60208067
>he thinks windows can only be infected by clicking exe files
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>>60209286
Exactly. Back to my trusty torrents!
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Anyone got a Windows binary?
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>>60201459
More abo flags. In fact, create a separate Linux Distribution with GNUnet preinstallled titled abOS (the logo is the abo flag)
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>>60194624
nyaa closes down, so you just shill gnunet likes it's somehow better than i2p, or Tor?

I'd rather use zeronet.
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>>60209403
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>>60209311
> But I guess I'll try to pull the release.
Fuck me. They apparently didn't tag the releases in git

And their CI (https://gnunet.org/buildbot/gnunet/#/builders) doesn't help with identifying when the last build worked.

Pic related, it was apparently just fail fail fail for months now... are you REALLY sure about promoting this project as something good?!
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If zeronet so good why doesn't TAILS use it?
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So basically this is for copying pizza over the internet... right?
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>>60209622
No, that's maidsafe.
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How many peers do you people have?
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Why you want to use that ugly piece of shit when RetroShare exist and does the same thing? I want GNU to die soon
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>>60198828
>client entirely in java
eh
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>>60209814
There's a c++ version.
Also, java is what lets these things be properly cross-platform.
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>>60209825
>Also, java is what lets these things be properly cross-platform.

Tor is cross-platform and it's written in C
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>>60209576
>>60209608
ZN is garbage. There's another one I can't remember the name of, IIRC it's in the /cyb/ pasta usually, that is also garbage (and filled with cp, too).

I haven't tried gnunet yet but reading this thread doesn't exactly inspire confidence in it. All of these are neat ideas but implemented horribly or ruined by degenerates.
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>>60209608
because it's more like a tech demonstration for a decentralized network which relies entirely on tor for security and privacy.
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I'll have to try it out some time, but what the fuck is up with those weird graphics and the abo flag?
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>>60209884
Normie deterrent.
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>>60209884
it is widely known that gnu people can't into GUIs
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>>60209843
>tor is inherently insecure
thanks for warning me
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>>60210297
not really a surprise that java programmers live in their own imaginary world
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>>60210569
India is real, dude.
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>>60209943
This is objectively wrong. With a good gtk theme applied and dash to dock extension, gnome shell and gtk look great.
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>>60206837
Right, so, say I'm downloading Ghost In The Shell.
All the ISP knows is that I connect to random nodes and that I download random bytes.
There's no way for them to know I did download it unless they physically access my drives with the content on it. Is that correct?
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>>60204060
>(in pratice)
More like in theory, it works like ass currently.
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>>60198828
>>60211398
it's probably similar to this where you get random bits and there's no way to tell if it ends with you or keeps going

I haven't the slightest idea what I'm talking about though so hopefully somebody will correct me
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>>60208160
>complaining about ui and not technical matters
ISHYGDDT
>costanzaimplode.bmp
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Why, oh why is any other board more relevant than /g/? /b/ is so far ahead of /g/ they have nothing to do but fap to traps. /a/ is so far ahead of /g/ all they do is fap to 2D traps. /pol/ blew past everyone and faps to prospects of political leaders being portrayed as traps.
Fucking hell, /g/ really is the worst board on 4chan. No participation, no input, no collaboration , no thought.at all. It's pathetic. People might as well go to backwater shit like /. or reddit or whatever. This place is shit. I'm going back to /b/. At least there's those few that will actually DO something.
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>>60211701
What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>p2p
>relies on seeders just like regular torrents

it's shit, sharing mega.nz/other DDL filehost links is the future of piracy.
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>>60211701
The worst part about /g/ is how it succumbs to narcissism of small differences. There are plenty of real programmers here but it's the faggots who argue linux vs mac vs windows without realizing they're all the same, fundamentally. The 2nd worse are the old school faggots who argue that Electron and web ecosystem is shit and bloated. Javascript is as fast as Lua on many benchmarks, V8 is fast as shit, etc. But mostly, web ecosystem has provided a super easy way to make cross platform and web apps with one codebase! Software dev time is the critical, rate-limiting resource; yet, somehow, the fuck-ups on this board want you to spend MORE dev time just because they don't like javascript. Like, what the fuck, guys? Javascript is funtional as shit too, it's not OO!
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>>60211769
In which case mega.nz / DDL filehost is that seeder.
To download something there is someone who has to host it, such a complex concept to understand.
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>>60211801
Get back to whatever shithole you're from, and take that meta shitposting with yourself.
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>>60211808
and mega.nz/google drive/mediafire are multi-billion dollar constantly expanding companies with thousands of servers and trillions of B/s upload speed that will never stop seeding.

seeders on torrent trackers, private or public, always stop seeding some content if it's not popular enough.
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>>60211886
>that will never stop seeding.
They will if they get DCMA letter.
They also don't take income from air, they have to have customers or show shitty ads to profit themselves.
Also, these services do disappear no matter how big they are (happened with multiple services already).
Decentralized P2P is largelly resistant against this kind of bullshit, and speeds are usually better too because there are multiple peers seeding.
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>>60211940
s/DCMA/DMCA/
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>>60209253
Link to the AUR package? I'm not seeing it.
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>>60209472
Yeah I don't know what the fuck the devs are doing, they don't seem to care that they haven't released anything stable in 3 years, and the stable version is anything but stable, so when you go onto the IRC and tell them about a problem with it they'll tell you to get a newer version, of which none actually even build, and THEN they apparently will help you.

This seems like a total runaway project.
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>>60211769
You're seriously suggesting people use DDL?
Fuck off.
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>>60211769
Mega links get pruned too often for the site to be used to host data long-term, at least that's what I've experienced.
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>>60211940
>DMCA
use a host in a third world country like india that will soon be getting fast internet

>ads
normalfags will support the site by being too computer illiterate to block ads
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>>60212063
The most recent version is in the official repos. Anon must have been a dumb dumb and confused the standard Arch repos with the AUR.
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>>60212270
>use a host in a third world country like india that will soon be getting fast internet
Unreliable.

>normalfags will support the site by being too computer illiterate to block ads
Fair point, but wouldn't sustain itself if everybody did that, and I'd prefer if I didn't need to care about blocking them either.
Ads are non-existent problem for p2p.
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>>60212153
>>60209472
well, this project seem to be bullshit, why is everyone so hyped about this when there are better alternatives?
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>>60212413
Because GNOO
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>>60212413
It has (or had?) a really good premise but the entire thing seems to be executed in the most obnoxious way possible.

It would be great if somebody just took the filesharing aspect of it, dumped the rest, and focused upon making it work as smoothly as possible in its current state rather than attempting to expand it far beyond its scope like the developers seem to be doing - failing to release any semblance of a stable build in some kind of masturbatory frenzy to pimp the software as hard as possible with no regard for the users.
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a couple of guys have ready TBs to share for the next stable release, but network is not empty, I've seen it
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I remember anons sharing retroshare gpg keys here on /g/, what happened to them?
Restroshare looked somewhat bloated but still pretty neat.
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>>60211801
>>60211701
Stop shitposting
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>>60211847
I'm from this shithole you braindead faggot
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Why not put together a virtual machine the pretty much only runs gnunet-gtk and then share it?
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>>60213654
This is the brightest idea so far
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>>60213654
someone go do this you lazy fatasses
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>>60214147
I'm putting it together, ima use parabola and i3
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>>60214182
Why not Guix?
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>>60214205
What advantages will we get from using Guix?
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It says I'm connected to the network but I still don't see any files, and can't find any by searching :/
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>>60214243
oh boy
get ready for the rest of your life anon
once you start opening this one, nothing will every be the same
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>>60214243
I assume it'd have better support for gnunet, but eh use whatever is most comfortable for you now, someone else who's into GuixSD can make VM for that.

>>60214510
Have you tried searching for tags like 'anime' or 'music'?
What does gnunet-peerinfo and gnunet-core show?
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>>60201380
>>60201442
Step out of the 60's granpa
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>>60213654
>>60214182
you mean container right?
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>>60214182
someone make logo for this
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>>60214676
I can be the idea guy if you guys want me to. You'll have to do the programming though lol
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Can someone put it in a docker?
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>>60201857
Good luck convincing the FBI with that argument!
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>>60214959
Due process still exists retard.
As much as the government is just a corporate sham, law and human rights are still abided and upheld.
To receive a warrant, they would have to show beyond reasonable doubt that the random data your machine was passing was something worthy of a warrant.
The way gnunet works, this isn't possible.
(They could of course illegalize encryption, but that would be an entirely different issue.)
And if the judges stop caring about evidence and it"s validity, prosecutors have no reason not to just lie and/or frame you.
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>nsa fud campaign out in full force
this thing must be pretty great to have them so worried like this
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>>60215159
Your reputation is ruined for life as soon as you're accused of trafficking. Even if you're judged to be innocent, nobody will completely believe it.
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>>60196723
they are different. Gnunet would compare better to freenet
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Does anyone have the gnunet anime theme?
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>>60215159
>Due process still exists
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Should I install the git or the debian package version?
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>>60214586
ncurse vim style is the best GUI ever
why do you need your fancy clicking that takes 3 times as much time
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>>60215496
Which plate of shit do you want to eat with your bare hands? One which is stale or one which has been failing tests for months straight?
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This thread has reignited my hate in /g/. Most of you are a glorious level of retarded.

GNUnet is a based idea but the current software is developed like shit. A new implementation of the router will fix this.

>>60195308
>>60208057
There is no quality control because it is P2P and completely decentralized. It's absolutely fine if it becomes a "sea of poor quality uploads and viruses" because nobody besides the 1 person uploading it is going to be seeding it. People will only store the good contents, and the shit contents will die off.

>>60211769
Of course it needs a seeder, someone has to have a computer running that will send the data to you. But if mega goes down because it's chinashit, you're 100% fucked. If some guy on GNUnet stops uploading, the file remains as long as it was good enough to have more than 1 uploader.
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>>60215941
kys turbo tard
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>>60210575
Top keke, that's an underrated post right here.
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Can one redirect gnunet via socks5?
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>>60215495
It does and is the only reason why Sony hasn't been able to throw your ass in jail.
Things are indeed getting worse and it's scary.
When we lose it (because idiots like you didn't fight to protect the rights of pedos), your only option will be `don't do anything that those in power don't want me to'.
Until then, I am innocent until proven guilt and no random number is probable cause or proof of anything.
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>>60216169
why would you need to? its anonymous by design. a proxy will only make you more identifiable.
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>>60216378
>a proxy will only make you more identifiable
How so?

>its anonymous by design
I don't want my ISP know that I use gnunet.
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>>60216432
there's nothing illegal about gnunet, but i understand where you're coming from. running gnunet over vpn just links your vpn account to gnunet. its pseudoanonymity. your isp will probably be more suspicious about vpn traffic more than some obscure p2p program.
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>>60216554
I trust my VPN more than my ISP, I do not care if my VPN provider knows that I use gnunet but I would care if my ISP did.
I already forward all my traffic via ssh/socks5 and I would like to be able to forward gnunet traffic as well.
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>>60205454
probably no. it would require multiple users with lots of storage and fast connections and it wont happen unless someone has multiple dedicated storage servers for gnunet only.
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>>60213654
Why not a docker/lxc container?
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>>60216348
Law enforcement use trackers, databases, hacking tools, stingrays, etc all the time without following due process.
>parallel construction
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>>60216714
Will that work well on Windows? (I've never messed with docker before)
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>>60216169
Yes.
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>>60217135
how?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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