/wt/ watch thread

eerste voor een vrij en onafhankelijk Vlaanderen

so why are there so many watches on eBay from India?

>>60166016
because you're looking at the cheapest cheap shit

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>be mechanical snob
>suddenly fall in love with the Seiko flightmaster

I like everything from the proportions to the functions, and the chronograph hand even actually sweeps.

Am I going to hate myself for buying a quartz shitter after a few weeks?

>>60166137
I don't really know you but I'm happy with my collection of quartz and mechanical watches

>>60166137
buy what makes you happy
/wt/ hates my collection of overpriced swatch and richemont shitters

>>60166016
>Rickshaw driver wearing his Seiko/HMT/Citizen
>Admiring his watch so much he goes through an intersection without looking
>Gets flattened by a lorry
>time_cocoon and clockmart007 race against each other to the crash site in their Rickshaws
>clockmart007 goes for the watch
>time_cocoon stabs clockmart007 in the thigh
>time_art_studio arrives there to see clockmart007 bleeding out and time_cocoon defenseless
>punches time_cocoon in the back of the head and knocks him out cold
>with time_cocoon out and clockmart007 immobilized (for now), time_art_studio pinches the watch from time_cocoon's hands
>takes it back home
>wipes the blood off and faeces with a baby wipe
>opens it up to make sure he can say it work when he puts it on eBay
>sells it to some faggot in the Europe for €10
>it cost €0.50 to send by airmail with tracking number that is as useful as Anne Frank's drum kit
>arrives at their door 3 months later

>>60166137
You have no idea how liberating it is to be able to look at your wrist and KNOW what time it is

I bought a "quartz shitter" after years of mech/vintage snobbery and it helped me snap out of my delusional state

Quartz >>> Mechshit

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>>60166367
Well yeah, but I mean just look at this :(

>>60166445
The 7T series are GOAT quartz chrono movements though.

>>60166474
Well yeah, but...

>no jewels
:(

Convince me anon. And hold me tight.

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Strap suggestions for pic related? Would like to keep it under 15€ since the watch itself was just 26€.

>>60166500
striped nato

>>60166500
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/i/32599097462.html
Black one with white stitching
I bought one and it's pretty good quality but then I realised I don't like leather straps

>>60166500
Black Perlon?
Crocodile pattern leather?

>>60166367
I can look at my wrist and KNOW what time it is as well. Two of my mechanical watches run very close to +0 SPD, another two run close to +2 SPD, and even a couple of cheaper mechanicals I have run within +5 SPD.

Now, if you want something that delivers excellent accuracy without having to to be thought about at all for years at a time, then a high-accuracy quartz or atomic radio sync watch may be a better choice for you, but the idea that all mechanical movements are grossly inaccurate is totally misguided.

>>60166445
>completely soulless
That's why I don't like quartz :^(

>>60166777
>tfw no atomic mechanical watch

I hope my watches arrive tomorrow.

>>60167026
What watch is it anon

>>60166500

Perlon strap from ebay. $10.

>>60166777
>a few of my mechanical watches happen to be at that point in their service cycle where they're not a complete disaster at telling time
All of my stopped watches are correct twice a day. Fuck this "telling time" nonsense, it's completely soulless

>>60167033

Seiko, Vostok and Swatch

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>>60167057
Sorry, I can't here you over the sound of how objectively wrong you are.

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>>60167057
>>60167098
Perhaps if you'd chosen your mechanical movements better, had them serviced by a competent watchmaker, and regulated them properly you would have a better appreciation for what a high quality mechanical movement is capable of.

>>60156716
>Literally never ever seen this on any quartz watch, high or low end.
wearing a shitter right now with this feature

>>60166809
protip your little gearbox doesn't have a soul either and when you die it's going to go on BarronBay for the future equivalent of a few hundred bux

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black or white dial?

>>60167403
black

>>60167137
>>60167098
Not sure what you think you're proving with those screenshots, it's a stupid phone app that can't even measure amplitude, if you're so obsessive you should buy a cheap timegrapher instead of wasting time measuring with your cell phone.

In any case my best timekeeper was a Rolex that was within 3spd for the first few years. There was a time when it was 0spd, but that is just a fluke. A watch is not special because it transitions from slightly fast to slightly slow (or vice versa) and for a time it's spot on. Like the stopped watches that are right twice a day - it's just the way things work.

You're just too new at this hobby to realize that ALL movements deteriorate after service, it's not a question of how "fancy" it is.

In any case, I'm done with the mechashit

Quartz >>> mechanical

You can make up all kinds of woo-woo meaningless garbage like pretending your Seiko has "soul" but the fact is it's obsolete tech

Breitling have new owners. The company was sold for $870 million

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>>60167570
>I'll make outrageous claim, providing no caps, links, or sources, forcing any interested readers to Google said claim to check it's legitimacy

Delete this post and try again next time.

>>60167533
>Implying I don't have a timegrapher
>Implying I don't regulate my own movements (aside from the Rolex 3135 as I don't feel like buying a microstella wrench and learning how to use it)
>Implying a properly serviced quality mechanical movement will have it's time-keeping degrade drastically within the ~5 years between services
>Implying I haven't owned multiple vintage watches through multiple services
>Implying there aren't significant quality differences between different movements, or that those differences don't have a large effect on the accuracy of those movements between services
>Implying that people aren't interested in mechanical watches for the same reasons people are interested in vintage cars
>Implying that anyone should care about your personal conception of what "objectively better" is

I perfect well understand if you decided mechanical watches aren't for you, but that doesn't require you to start talking grossly exaggerated nonsense about them to make yourself feel better about your choices.

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>>60167765
>all this greentext
It is no exaggeration to say mechanical watches are obsolete garbage.

For all your blathering about "appreciating the craftsmanship" all you're doing is fapping over old shit that isn't as good as new shit.

For fuck's sake we have chip scale atomic clocks now, we can have wristwatches that tell time to within plus or minus 1 second per THE ENTIRE RECORDED HISTORY OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION with no external signal. Some of us are rightly amazed by that, others amaze themselves looking at old shit that barely works while whining that men don't wear trilbies anymore

To each his own, I guess.

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>>60167533
>You're just too new at this hobby to realize that ALL movements deteriorate after service, it's not a question of how "fancy" it is.
>In any case, I'm done with the mechashit
>Quartz >>> mechanical
What a fucking idiot
KEK

>>60167865
Call me when a CSAC wristwatch has a battery life that isn't measured in hours, or doesn't cost several kilobucks. I'll wait.

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>>60167918
>muh old shit

>>60167865
>mechanical watches are obsolete garbage
Yes, the existence of 2006 Toyota Corollas means no one should be interested in vintage cars.

There is certainly no reason to be interested in the level of microengineering and workmanship required to create a set of springs and gears capable of keeping time with 99.995%+ accuracy and which, if serviced regularly,will last forever.

Or any reason to be interested in the associated design traditions and histories of this genre of wrist mounted machines.

Everything must be as strictly utilitarian, boring, and uninteresting as humanly possible. NO FUN ALLOWED GUYZ!

>barely works
Yes, my 45 year old King Seiko Special that runs +0 SPD "barely works", that's not absolutely ridiculous hyperbole at all.

Not even to mention all the mechanical watches much older than that that will still be running after all the $0.02 Chikshit electronics are in landfills.

>>60167943
By the time it's cheap and ubiquitous you'll hate it because it doesn't have "class"

Face it, you NEED obsolete shit mechwatches because it gives you a reason to feel superior. Unlike the unthinking sheeple who want to know what time it is, you can see the wondrous old world craftsmanship of your Philippine frankenseiko that you measure every day with your cell phone to make sure the lubricants inside haven't completely jammed things up to the point where you have to send it in for another service. This makes you a better person.

>>60167918
mah boi

>>60167865
>check my new super exact watch
>ok... what time is it anon?
...
>mmm don't know, my battery just died again

opinions?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Men-Retro-Design-Leather-Band-Analog-Alloy-Quartz-Wrist-Watch-Geneva-Wristwatch-/112363858173

>>60167997
Not even that person you're arguing with you sperg. I think it'd be nice for quartz to finally get superseded by CSACs. It's a long way off from happening clearly.

>>60167985
>it works great guys!
>that's why I have to check to make sure it's still working at least twice a day with a special apparatus designed to confirm that it's not a complete mess of seized bearings inside
You seem to really trust your watchmaker :^)

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>>60167533
>>60167865
>>60167997
>>60168041
All the stupid crap you shat out of your mouth? Got rekt with one simple image.

>>60168041
>Using the smiley with the carrot nose

>>60168071
>8x as many parts as necessary
>completely impossible to service outside of Switzerland
>doesn't keep time any better than a COSC grade ETA-2824
Gee, you sure showed how mechfags have their priorities straight

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>>60168104

>>60168225
Irony coming from a mechfag who spends hours every day raving on a chinese pagoda building forum about how he could NEVER pollute his wrist with an accurate watch

the fact that cheap quartz modules are ubiquitous now and are slightly superior in one technical measurement doesn't mean that mechanical watches should be phased out. in fact it means quite the opposite: because dead-accurate clocks are all around us at all times of the day, the timekeeping accuracy of the wristwatch is now mostly irrelevant once it passes the point of practicality. all mechanical movements made in the past 100 years possess sufficient accuracy for practical use. there is no meaningful difference between a vostok 2416 and a ronda quartz movement. neither of them comes within ten orders of magnitude of the accuracy of a cesium fountain, and all of our phones, computers, and so forth are all set by NTP to the cesium fountain time standards of the world.

yes, quartz was briefly an improvement over mechanical. but that reign barely lasted 20 years. quartz is obsolete as a precision timekeeping technology, replaced by networked systems calibrated to technology that is so accurate it exceeds the precision of the solar system itself.

now, what is a wristwatch in the 21st century? because it can never again be seen as a time standard, it can only be a personal accessory that serves as a celebration of tradition, craftsmanship, and design. quartz, then, fails quite badly at the primary application of a wristwatch, being a cheap compromise technology that discards the interesting value of the machine but that can only muster a marginally better showing on the accuracy benchmark. some quartz designs will always have appeal, like the brutal digital designs descended from the first wave of pulsars and seikos. but the notion of precision timekeeping in watchmaking is itself now wholly obsolete, and quartz's star has definitively, unambigiously, and indisputably fallen.

the time of quartz wristwatches has come to an end.

>>60168259
I have never done any such thing, and in fact I own more than one quartz watch with radio sync.

Actually most of the posters on /wt/ don't talk shit about quartz watches when they are well made and reasonably priced. The quartz watches looked down upon are the thoughtless shitters with $0.20 movements.

You are the only one sperging out about how your personal preferences represent objective truth.

>>60167680
>argument from fallacy
Nice meme, so outrageous. Not even that guy, it's fucking old news.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolbesler/2017/04/28/breitling-acquired-by-cvc-capital-partners/

>>60168297
>slightly superior
stopped reading right there

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>>60167865
>>60167533
>he doesn't understand the importance of mechanical watches
lol

>>60166777
>he considers anything other than high accuracy watches

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>>60167865
I guess you don't mind wearing this then, after all, accuracy is everything.

>>60168369
>thinks women ACTUALLY care about your wrist fedora
Fact: 9 out of 10 women prefer Daniel Wellington over Nomos

>>60168448
Doesn't look any worse than your average Raketa, Vostok, or Poljot

When /g/ stops jacking off over those, you might have an argument

>>60168429
>He doesn't know that "high accuracy quartz" is a categorical description not a qualitative one.

>>60168458
FACT: real 10/10 babes only care if your watch is an expensive rolex or shit like that. Fuck your ugly lab experiments like >>60168448

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>$24,600
:^)

>>60168509
t. guy who has never had an expensive watch

I wore a 14270 for years, literally nobody gave a shit except dudes

My most complimented watch is a Kenneth Cole with a $5 quartz movement inside

>>60168517
18.6mm thick
80+mm wide

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poorfags btfo

>>60168550
>has the wrong rolex
>complains about not picking up women with it

I actually hook up with a solid 9 like two weeks ago, just by flashing my GMT Batman with no fucking shame.

>>60168610
>tinder prostitutes look at how expensive your watch is
What a surprise!

>>60168325
that's not an argument from fallacy

>>60168654
>he prefers pumping uglies with his fat nerd engineering classmate fat instead of wetting his dick in great looking girls because of "morals".
It's not like you have to marry her.

Also, I get pretty good pussy with my Rolex, your argument is invalid.

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>>60168748
>Also, I get pretty good pussy with my Rolex
What fantasy world are we living in today, fellas?

>>60168772
fuck off ninefag

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>>60168772
Fuck off NineFag

>>60168827
>>60168972
>>>/fa/

>>60168610
>digging for this much gold

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>>60169320
>>60168654

>>60169320
>>60168654
>>60168772
Fucking poorfags, jelly much?
Keep wearing your absolute shitters, at least that tight little piece knows that life is too short for that kind of shit.

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>>60169799
Those watches are nothing compared to this.

>>60166367

THIS

>>60168517
>It is the most accurate wristwatch in the world. In full atomic mode, it keeps time to 1½ seconds per thousand years. In atomic resonator mode, it is still accurate to one second per hundred years.

wow

>>60168610

My wife comes form generational wealth. Her dead grandfather's trust fund money is still generating so much money that every grandchild and great grandchild never will ever need to think about working. Every single one of them grew up with multiple Rolexes, no other watch brands. They are the most down to earth people you will ever meet. You would never know my wife came from wealth because she doesn't wear anything fancy or shows off with money. The Rolexes I own were gifts from her. A chick who has to go around looking for a man with a Rolex of Patek doesn't have money, she's looking for it.

>>60170395
That's right. Yours is the faggiest of them all.
KYS

>>60170500
Untill two days later, when the battery runs out of juice.

>>60170540
What fantasy world are we living in today, fellas?

>>60170704
Kek
I hope you stay here

>>60166500
What watch?

>>60170747
POBEDA

>>60170736
I'm the shit stuck under your shoe.
I never leave and I stank everywhere.

>>60166500
Dat dial is sexy as fuck nigga imma get it

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>>60166326
Old pasta but highly relevant

>>60168096
>carrot
First of all it's spelled "caret", second the symbol you get by pressing shift+6 is technically a circumflex accent.

>>60168096
>carrot

>>60166326
Kek'd

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>>60165884
Nth voor groter Nederland wanneer

>>60167403
Both.

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>>60167403
Black, which is actually a deep dark brown.

Does anyone know anything about this 34mm, 24h, 17 jewel Raketa? Is it worth 55 dollars? What sort of a movement does it have?

https://www.moscowphoto.net/watches/russian-mechanical-watch-raketa-24h-black-dial-34mm

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>>60166326
>as useful as Anne Frank's drumkit

lost

>>60168011
Those subdials WILL be fake and they WILL annoy you

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Is there ANY practical benefit to a mechanical """tool watch"""?

Or is this whole tool watch thing pure marketing?

Possible advantages I can think of:
>better anti-magnetism due to lack of circuitry and chips (???)
>no need to worry about battery lifespan in survival situation

errrrrrrr that's it?

>>60171726
They will survive an EMP unlike quartzes, or I don't know if there are quartzes out there with a Faraday's cage casing.

>>60171747
>I don't know if there are quartzes out there with a Faraday's cage casing
Me neither.

It might not even make a difference for quartz, which is full of vulnerable electronics.
A faraday cage on a mechanical watch is only there to keep the balance spring from getting magnetized, which isn't that big a deal.
I could be wrong though.

How common are EMPs anyway?

>>60171747
>>60171726
>survival
>emp
Didnt you guys hear about the recent breakthrough where scientists discovered you can actually tell the time by the location of the sun?

crazzzy stuff!

though im sure the zombies will complement you on your incredible timekeeping skills and style!

Looking for a daily beater for around €100, I'm just using some cheapos (f91w, Sinobi and a Zim) currently and want something nicer that looks cleaner.

I'd like some waterproofing and a date function, that's about it. Current main contenders are the Seiko 5 and the Vostok Amphibia. I'd prefer if the watch wasn't super loud like the Zim. Could probably afford the Seiko 5 Sports series too.

>>60171868
Might be worth checking out some of the Chinese (Sea-Gull, Starking) offerings as well. I ordered one specifically to beat around.

>>60171803
Well, for me personally it's nice to know that my watch won't be affected by EMPs, that do happen with solar storms like once during a century. After all, my mechanical pieces are made to last forever and to be inherited by my children/grandchildren etc.

>>60171885
Where does one acquire Sea-Gull watches? I had a site booked from years ago that sold Parnis watches but it's down

>>60171885
No. They are fun yeah but I wouldn't trust them for daily waterproof beater use.

>>60171868
You have good taste I see, I would personally recommend the SNK807 from Seiko 5 collection or a scuba dude Amphibia. Both are great watches for the price. Also, if you want another digital, G-shock DW-5600 and the "Casio Royale" World Time are fun as hell.

>>60171937
AliExpress

>>60171940
I guess I'll find out. The one I ordered claims to be 50m water resistant. I'll wear it in the shower and report back.

>>60168369
yeah right, oh anon I see you have a mechanical watch on your wrist, that just makes me so wet, please make love to me right now said no woman ever.

If you actually lift 3 days a week then it doesn't matter if you have a watch or not and if you do it doesn't matter what watch you wear.

>>60171937
http://www.seagullwatchstore.com/

http://www.finewatchesofchina.com/sea-gull-watches

The cheapest Seagull watches you could get is in Taobao/China

>>60167403
white obviously

>>60167570
it won't change anything though

>>60171885
>>60171940
Thanks for the advice! No digital this time, I may look into the G-shocks at some point but I want this one to be more "serious".

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>>60172029
>he doesn't realize money is the most effective women attractor
You can lift all you want bruh, you'll never beat the panty dropper factor of a high-end mechanical gold watch.

>>60168610
>own VC Les Cabinotiers
>oh well

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>>60172200
Actually, it will change a lot, and hopefully, finish the job of killing modern Breitling for good.

>>60169799
Both look awful

>>60172657
Never mind poorfag, come back when you have an Oyster Perpetual.

>>60172920
>vacherone constantinople?
>hahahah nice china watch

>>60172705
what will change

>>60170086
>being so insecure you seek anonymous e-validation about your watch's ability to attract gold diggers
Go beat up a prostitute, you won't get any gratification here

>>60171747
>>60171906
Have you ever thought about how you're going to maintain your "tool watch" that has to be constantly checked against a quartz timepiece everyday to make sure the lubricants haven't seized overnight?

>>60171474
When will the reddit bracelets end

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>>60172652
>he has no game
M8 I used to deal pot and was on the unemployment benefit I still got my dick wet regularly
A watch is only going to help you pull thots and airheads

Buy a watch for yourself and only yourself senpai

>>60171474
>muh patina
This is a meme that needs to die in a fire, fucked up old shit isn't something to worship. You think people buying a 400 year old violin from a Cremonese master would prefer a fucked up violin with pitted varnish? Fuck no. So why should they want it on a 40 year old mass produced consumer product? Answer: because they're fucking stupid and romanticize busted stuff.

Quartz >> Mechashit

>>60173242
>stop liking what I don't like!

>>60173068
>Have you ever thought about how you're going to maintain your "tool watch" that has to be constantly checked against a quartz timepiece everyday to make sure the lubricants haven't seized overnight?

No because that's fucking retarded.

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>>60168610
u guys r just mad u dont have a marrie

>>60173402
How do you think your watchmaker makes all that "watch stuff" work all good and sheeit?

Have you ever thought about HOW people can say that their watch is good for plus or minus X number of seconds per day?

Your entire hobby revolves around the use of "inferior" quartz watches to help you quantify the level of fuckery you put up with every day in your obsolete luddite wrist fedora

You measure your busted old garbage against an objectively indisputable source of truth, then flush that truth down the toilet once you've gotten your measurements so you can go boast on the internet about how you're totally self-sufficient with mechashit and the entire modern world can go to hell because the pieces of metal rubbing together are, somehow, better because they suck(?!)

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>>60173484
>using a quartz watch to sync other watches to
>not time.gov

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>>60173484
>syncing to quartz
Do you live in the middle ages, plebbo?

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>>60173512
>to sync watches
No, silly mechfag, it's worse than that

You literally CANNOT HAVE YOUR HOBBY unless you pay some guy to use a quartz watch to make sure your watch even works

The entire industry is based on a willful suspension of disbelief, case in point: you

You are just LARPing at this point

>>60173529
>my watchmaker uses a pre-compiled table of tidal movements and moonrises to regulate my wrist fedoras
No he doesn't

Quartz >>> mechashit

>>60173536
>a machine which only shows integer accuracy numbers only needs an internal timekeeping mechanism that's more accurate than 1s/d

Color me shocked.

>>60173571
>willful suspension of disbelief intensifies
Quartz >>> mechashit

>>60173557
I use the NTP-sycned clock of my PC. It's running Linux because I don't trust the desktop clock of Windows. Radio-sync can't be trusted either because the building blocks the DCF77 signal, and radio clocks have shit on-board crystals, and I don't feel like taking a clock for a walk once every week.

t. watchmaker

>>60173583
Tell us how you really feel anon.

Tell me if you think the TXCO clock in a timegrapher used to measure quartz, tuning fork, and mechanical watches is the same kind of quartz crystal you'd find in a casio.

>>60173649
>I have no idea what that picture is because I've never regulated a watch in my life
t. LARPer

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>>60173512
>>60173529

>using a quartz watch to sync other watches to


>tfw this is exactly what i do

>>60173662
>a Raketa is better than a Casio because it's less reliable
Why would a $150 alibaba timegrapher have a fancy Grand Seiko tier quartz oscillator when a 25 cent unit will do the trick?

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>>60173727
>>a Raketa is better than a Casio because it's less reliable

>>60173665
Seriously just get out, you're going full retard.

>>60173727
>when a 25 cent unit will do the trick?
No it won't. You've literally been talking out of you ass like a buttblasted NEET for the last hour.

t. built my own timegrapher

>>60170540

My gf is like this.

It wasn't until months into knowing her when I found out that her father is a multimillionaire.

>>60173753
>>60173743
Uh oh! Looks like an angry mob of LARPers is forming!

It's funny because it doesn't matter whether you genuinely didn't know that quartz-based timegraphers are a necessary part of the mechanical watch scam, or if you did and it's just a question of pretending not to know so that you can maintain the illusion of self-reliance

Your'e like the doomsday preppers who stockpile hundreds of pounds of dry beans without thinking of how they're going to cook them when the lights go out

>>60171726
Mechanical tool watch genres come from a time before the availability of quartz replacements, when those mechanical tool watches were the best timekeeping tool available for that specific purpose.

They still exist because those tool watch categories (e.g. divers, fliegers, modern pilots watches, field watches) are historical genres with aesthetics, engineering features, and histories that are still appreciated by people interested in mechanical watches today.

So today, "dive watches" is a genre of watch with certain features in common, and should not be taken to mean that they should strictly be used for diving, just as fliegers are not commonly used by working pilots anymore.

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So anyway did Raketa invent this method of displaying weekdays or was it done before? Now I see it on a few Casios.

>>60173832
I understand the history of it. Back in the day Rolexes were tool watches too.
But watch brands keep making new models and designs.
Entire brands have popped up long after the quartz revolution that specialize in "tool watches".

>>60173068
Anon I'm sorry.

Your father got you a Steinhart for your graduation. You loved it. You wore it everyday. It was your pride and joy. Finally you could show the world what you were made of, and that you, after all these years had earned the right to wear your first Swiss Made luxury watch.

Then, alas, you found /g/. You found /wt/ and anons were talking about all types of horological technology, forms and functions, complications and designs, reliability and value for money. You were home at last, among your fellow watch connoisseurs.

As you were scrolling away, you saw someone else posted their Steinhart.. and you knew it was time, time to share with the world your own timepiece for all to admire and adore!

So you did. And then the comments came in. But, something was wrong. They were.. Unexpected. They were.. cruel. Harsh. Demeaning and offensive.

What? Why? How can this be? After all this time and love you have shared with your watch you've just been told, that slab of metal around your wrist, is in fact a steaming pile of dogshit.

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Which one guy'se?

>>60173869
Russians didn't invent anything other than painting red stars on their watches and poorly drawn pictures of Lenin to sell them to gullible Westerners on eBay

The entire Soviet watch industry never advanced past the Western state of the art circa 1920s, because all of it was based on a single obsolete American watch factory purchased by a front company shortly after the Russian Revolution, and it had to be moved around and purged repeatedly due to wars, political upheavals, and so on. Even something as basic as shock protection cannot be taken for granted.

Which is why, of course, wrist fedora fans love them so much. Old and shitty = good.

>>60173900
Nice try but nope, not even close. Other than the dogshit. Mechanical watches are, in fact, steaming heaps of dogshit. We're definitely on the same page on that one.

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>>60173956
>replying to copypasta seriously

>>60173883
Yes because people still like the combination of aesthetics and features mechanical tool watches made in those genres have (such as timing bezels and water resistance for divers, or extremely legible dials for fliegers and pilots watches).

Basically, those are genres now, design traditions, not functional categories. Asking why people still make and buy fliegers is like asking why people still buy convertible cars when sunroofs exist.

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>company slaps its fuck ugly logo designed by some woman in the marketing department on the dial
>it's too big
>it contrasts the color of the dial
how about small and low-contrast? is that so hard?

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>>60168325
I feel like some teenager or fucking retard read a wikipedia article about fallacies recently because someone has been spamming the SHIT out of 4chan with this
>muh appeal to x
>m-muh fallacy
i swear to fucking god stupid people cannot handle basic discussions without resorting to this shit and misidentifying everything as a fallacy
>here's my argument also you're a fucking faggot
>w-wow n-nice a-ad hom-hominem..

>>60173939
Global Rule #6

>>60173987
>extremely legible dials for fliegers and pilots watches
And then there's >>60173911

>>60174044
The dial is perfectly legible though.

>>60173536
>Pretending that the health and accuracy of quartz movements can be assessed without an external referent

>Pretending that diagnostic tools needed to check whether your car's engine and drivetrain are working well when you take your car for service mean you a LARPing its ability to transport you places

>You literally CANNOT DRIVE A CAR unless you pay some guy to use some machines on your car to make sure your car even works

>Driving cars is based in a wilful suspension of disbelief, case in point: Everyone who owns a car.

STOOOOOOP LIIIIIKING WHAAAAT I DOOOONT LIIIIIKE!!!!! WAAAAAAHHHH!

>>60173911
GUY'SE WHICH ONE???

>>60174050
You're right. The bezel makes one think it's just as bad as a navitimer, but it's actually not.

>>60171937
Ebay, worth checking out shanghai & chunlei brands as well.

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cop?

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Anyone able to identify where this strap came from? Seems incredibly well made, I got it for £6

>>60174082
Are you a malldad? because they're both malldadcore.

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>>60174130
Here's the back

>>60174130
if you bought it you should know where it came from

>>60174135
And why is that?

>>60174074
>your car's engine
Wrong argument, I am not a cager, have not owned a cage for over 15 years, and I do not take "my" cage for service because they are morally objectionable.

My bike, I maintain myself, I do not "take it for service".

If you want to use car analogies you can greentext something like "pretending you can live without the internal combustion engine to deliver your bike parts from Chain Reaction" or some such thing.

Quartz >>> Mechashit

>>60174164
Nah I got it from eBay, it was NOS from a watchstore, they didn't list nay specifics

>>60174177
It's not true to a guiding principle

Fliegers are, because they are driven by simplicity and legibility
Breitligs are, because they go all-out with their clutter. One may object to the design, but at least they are consistent

That one, 50% flieger, 50% breitling
True to nothing

>>60174295
It's literally a flieger with a slide rule bezel you sperg.

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>>60174181
>cager

>>60174181
>cager
wtf did he mean by this? is this a new anti-auto meme? This person is literally the cunt that you open your doors on while they pass to your left.

>>60174295
Maybe you should look up what a slide rule is before you embarrass yourself any further with your ignorance.

>>60174181
So let me get this straight: You risk your life everyday to use an anachronistic, purely mechanical mode of transportation that requires regular maintenance to operate properly and yet here you are talking complete nonsense to people who have an interest in purely mechanical modes of timekeeping which require regular maintenance to operate properly and which don't require risking life and limb everyday or rearranging one's entire lifestyle to use.

Your absolute complete lack of self awareness is truly awe inspiring.

>>60173911
Left.

>>60174130
China probably.

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>>60174427
A bike has the advantage that I don't need to spend 45 minutes a day circling the block to get into a fist fight over a parking spot like a retarded cager. There is simply no faster way to get around

But it doesn't surprise me that someone who favors an incredibly ineffective time keeping mechanism because of some status symbolism would also favor an incredibly ineffective mode of transport, no doubt for similar reasons

>>60174130
>>60174148
you can get these on aliexpress for about $10, never seen one for 6

>>60174181
>cager
reaching bait levels that shouldn't be possible

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Best watch under or 200 dollars?

I bought a snn277 Seiko and im happy with it, Im a poor fag and don't want to spend more to look at the time.

But Is there a difference in quality at this price? Or is it all supposed to be shit to even fashion brands like gucci are same inside.

>>60166500
Milaneese mesh

>>60174492
use ebay and use the features sidebar to sort by things with "sapphire crystal" and with quartz movement under $200

you'll have plenty of options and most of them will be at least decent.

Most watches under $200 are kinda crap but that doesn't mean anything. The problem is just that normies don't do any research so companies churn out tons of shit that vaguely resembles the good stuff so they can increase their margins.

>inb4 quartz
you can't get a decent mechanical with sapphire crystal under 200 unless you buy used, and if you're not a "romantic" (autistic faggot), quartz is probably what you want anyway (it's also cheaper)

hesalite crystal is also good

>>60174500
Not him, but can you recommend a specific model?

>>60174476
You are severely autistic. I hope you get crushed by a car, and rightfully so.

>>60174550
he's just trolling for attention, just stop replying to him

the fact that he keeps spamming the word "cager" makes him easy to filter

>>60174492
Orient, they have everything you need for affordable, good quality watches

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>>60174476
>Ineffective
You mean like using a children's toy to get around at extreme risk of death and dismemberment to avoid having to look for a parking spot?

The only person LARPing here is you.

>>60174550
>"autistic"
Signs you've lost a 4chan argument

>>60174547
Watch Band Center has the best selection of Milanese mesh bands.

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>>60174561
>extreme
Yes, much like the "extreme" risk of walking, in both cases the risk is posed by vile cagers like you

>>60174562
Was there ever hope of winning against a determined autist?

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>>60174593
>Going full virtue signaling beta numale cuck
Say hello to your wife's son if you eventually happen to make it there alive on your children's toy.

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>>60174631
>"virtue signaling beta numale cuck"
Signs you've lost at life

jesus christ at this point the retard being b8d is worse than the guy trolling him
shut up already

>>60174395
>new
it's really old, and as stupid as it ever was.

>that you open your doors on while they pass to your left
only in america

>>60174726
they do it everywhere, sometimes unintentionally (women drivers)

>>60174395
it's the cyclist equivalent of fags calling people "breeder"

>>60174476
Sounds like you live up North where a car isn't really necessary or outside the US where the same rule applies.

Where I live everything is spread too far apart to ride a bike everywhere plus the people here hate cyclists. They get run over and clipped all the time.

>>60174751
>fags calling people "breeder"
is that a thing? lmao

>>60174772
Yeah, almost the exact same concept. Basically mentally ill people making a weak attempt at insulting normal people in lieu of having an actual respectable position, and the end result is something that is completely fucking retarded sounding to normal people.
>cager
>breeder
>cis male!
>REEEEEEE

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-chunlei-Shanghai-no-1-factory-watch-TV-dial-NOS-Rare-tongji-chinese-/292098786278
Cop or not?

>>60175042
looks small

>>60175042
With all the shady buzzwords in that listing I wouldn't believe the pictured watch actually exists even if I was holding it.

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Is Bering junk? Looking for a reliable, simple watch. This one and its variations are $100, sapphire crystal.

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>>60175257

>>60175282
>>60175257
Looks like it has the same case as chink fake Denzel Washingtons.

>>60175330
I like the two-tiered look better—I don't know what it's called—but I don't really mind as long as it's stainless steel instead of pot metal. I wish there were more new (non-vintage) watches in the 33-36mm range. There aren't very many at any price point.

>>60167865
OMFS* HOW CAN PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS OR TASTE THAN I, THE SPERG LORD OF ATLANTIS, HAVE?

REEEEEEEEEE

FUCKING NORMIES

*OMFS MEANS OH MY FUCKING SAGAN, I DON'T USED OMFG BECAUSE GOD, CLEARLY, DOESN'T EXIST. IF HE DID WHY WOULD HE PUNISH ME? MOOOOM WHERE ARE MY TENDIES?

>>60167865
>we can have wristwatches that tell time to within plus or minus 1 second per THE ENTIRE RECORDED HISTORY OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION with no external signal
where can I buy a watch like this?

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>>60175257

>>60173869
w2c

>>60175986
kek
I know, I knew this before I posted, I guess I shouldn't have bothered, just figured someone might chime in with "i have one and it's fine" or "i have one and some bits fell off after a week"

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>>60175782

>>60176275
well that's fugly, wonder when they'll get beyond the prototype stages or if it's outright bullshit

>>60175994
Ebay. It has a factory model number, but nobody sells or buys Raketa by that. It's known as the Raketa Domino. Movement is 2628.

>>60176314
Do you know what this is?

>>60176325
Thanks senpai

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>>60176275
>>60176314
>ESTIMATED DELIVERY May 2014

>>60176330
A prototype for a small atomic clock?

>>60176353
Yes. It's not a bullshit technology, just the wristwatch idea is bullshit

>>60176375
yes but the shitposter above was pitching it as a watch which is many years off at best

>>60176014
i have one and some bits fell off after a week

>>60176389
It works as it should, but why would you want such an accurate watch without any features other than a dial?

>>60173939
Sorry, they had French, Swiss, and German equipment too.

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Soon™

>>60176672
>why would you want such an accurate watch without any features other than a dial?
same reason people ITT want mechanical shit? it's cool, interesting to them

no legitimate objective reason but plenty of subjective reasons

>>60176814

>AUTO MATIC

>>60174181
>cager
The bait is strong here.

>>60176968
hard to tell with /n/ being a real board

>>60173774

I also didn't know anything about her wealth because I met her while we were both studying abroad living in shitty student accommodation. I just found it weird that her taste in food was very different to mine and she somehow had all the latest books I was looking for but couldn't afford to buy for myself.

>>60175042

I'm gonna outbid you

>>60173753
>t. built my own timegrapher
How? Have you documented this somehow?

>>60176814
cool lugs

>>60176814
looks good, wouldn't buy one because I don't like the way "forth" sounds

>>60168569
>80+mm wide
bitchwrist tier

>>60177160
It's all on the Internet.

>>60178507
Yes, but my connection is down right now.

>>60171266
Damn that is sexy...

Also rate my watch journey which I am about to partake.

1. Rolex No-Date Sub SS
2. Omega MANNNN ON THE FUCKING MOON
3. White Gold Reverso

>>60178329
Damn that's nice my m8

>>60178670
so original
what made you choose those watches?

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>Need to scratch up your lugs and pick at your strap whenever you want to change it

Why why why has no one invented something superior to springbars?

>>60178670
Fuck me dead/10

>people actually follow archie's "advice"

Remember not to buy western cuck watches made for cucks only from glorious japan

>>60178946
lots of people have
also, lots of people can use their hands and don't scratch their lugs while changing a strap

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Looking to buy a new watch, which one would you choose /g/?

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>>60178946

>>60179079
neither

>>60179079
pick your poison

>>60179079
both look cheaper than they probably are

>>60179093
>>60179101
elaborate please

>>60178957
The first video I saw of his was the one where he was shitting on Nomos, and I legit thought it was just a bait video. Then I watched his other videos.

>>60179079
Both look mall-core.

>>60179165
but they are radio controlled and have a perpetual calender

>>60179207
I know, it says on the dial.
And I was talking merely on the looks, not their technical features.

>>60179244
Any recommendations for a good looking one with at least a perpetual calender?

>>60179079
How much shit can a shitter shit if a shitter could shit shit and a shitter would shit shit?

>>60166367
>You have no idea how liberating it is to be able to look at your wrist and KNOW what time it is
Yup, legibility is undervalued and some of the horrors out there are incomprehensible. Even colouring scheme is optimized for glare and discomfort.

>I bought a "quartz shitter" after years of mech/vintage snobbery and it helped me snap out of my delusional state
I have had my quartz for 15+ years now, wear it day and night. Would have liked some minor complications though but the spuds believe that is restricted to mechanical watches so sensitive you cannot even applaud someone wearing teh watch with it disintegrating.

>Quartz >>> Mechshit
There is a lot to be said for reliability and precision. A lot.

>>60179104
needlessly overcomplicated dial

>>60168071
>one simple image
Serious? Or just post modern?

>>60166500
Where to buy one with this particular dial? I can't find it on eBay.

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>>60178946
Uh

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My lizard strap arrived today for the Sekonda.

>>60179610

Grandadcore

>>60179495
whoa

>>60173869
While later, Oechslin uses a type of similar indicator for day, date, month and leap year indicator.

Skydweller uses a month indicator along the same lines, perhaps the only thing I have liked about a Rolex.

What type of watch screams "I'm the forgotten son of European nobility. Please respect me."

>>60179696
vintage patek chronograpph perpetual calendar

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>/wt/ don't know about this

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>>60179696

>>60179721
I hope that finishing is not factory

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>>60179696

>>60179778
Only if you erase the "please" in that sentence.

>>60179739
squaleleleleleleleeleleleleleleleleleelleelelelel

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>>60179869

>>60179934
That's more like it.

>>60179739
>>60179925
>>60179696
Squalelelel actually says:
"I'm the forgotten son of European nobility's maids. Please don't hit me."

>>60179696
Depends on how much taste the person has.
Ideally something simple and inconspicuous. Price does not matter.

>>60179934
We-wuz-nobility-n-shiieet.-tier

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opinion on this?

>>60180035
10/10 Best Squalel depiction ever.
kek

>>60180182
Fuck off.

>>60180166
A FUCKING CLOWN

>>60180198
fucking kek I didn't even notice that

>>60180166
A kid in the office has one.

They look ok from a distance, except for that fake croc strap which can be spotted a mile away.

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Anyone bought from Jomashop before? I purchased an SKX013 on Sunday afternoon but it still hasn't shipped, was hoping to get it before the weekend, but it's looking unlikely.

>>60180241
I'm a total noob, can straps be easily replaced on watches like that?

>>60180274
>I'm a total noob
It shows. Get a white SARB for your first mechanical

>can straps be easily replaced on watches like that?
Yes, buy a band tool for $10-$20

>>60179667
Exactly.

>>60179610
Wtf the strap is made of david stars.

>>60180371
>Wtf the strap is made of david stars.
Lizardmen control the Jews

>>60179721
>quartz
Into le trash

>>60179739
Fuck even seeing that hideous, shilled piece of shit gets me angry

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>>60180371
can't unsee it now

>>60180371
Kek, I never noticed that.

>>60180474
I'd wear it...it's not bad at all

>>60178329
I almost bought an Obris but being a lanklet it's too big for me

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Cop or not?

>>60181422
Didn't the perpetual calendar feature run out in like 1998 or something?

>>60181448
2000

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>>60176389
yeah I don't know what this guy >>60176353
is talking about

that particular watch who knows, but you can buy a Hoptroff watch on their website right now if you want, they go for 10k GBP

>>60181810
Ugliest thing ever.

>>60181810
Worst than the terrorist Cashit.

>>60182083
Ugliest post ever.

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>>60181810
>atomic master clock
>not really legible or accurate display
What did they mean by this?

>>60182490
nice flieger

>>60181448
Calendars repeat.

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>>60182741
>Patek
>Flieger
What did he mean by this?

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Does this strap work at all for this watch? It's a bit lighter than on the photo

>>60183014
looks a little pinker than the dial which throws me off, but it's okay.

>>60183014
Get pvd hardware

>>60183014
It's alright, it works. I think it would be better if the case was silver though.

New thread
>>60184097
>>60184097

Casio Masterrace

>>60183468
this