/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>wear iems for 8 minutes
>They slide out on their own, covered in fresh earwax
How do I prevent this it's embarrassing as hell, and occasionally messes up my clothes.

Now post music. I won't start.

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>>60147846
What's with the v-shaped op pic.

Flat is justice.

>>60147887
hydrogen peroxide :^)

>>60147840

What headphones ya got, anon?

>>60147887
Clean your ears and don't shove 'em in so far.

>>60147905
Don't listen to this anon.

That's definitely not a good idea.

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anyone have these
how are they compared to the dt770-250

>>60147887
What? I run like a madman with iems and don't get this problem. How mucky are your ears laddo

>>60147937
Buying beyers past 770/880/990 is retarded.

Don't.

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>>60147900
Flat is boring and uninspired
Balanced>>>neutral

>>60147895
You go first, kiddo.

I bet it's some weeb garbage music.

Whats the best headphone amp/dac and headphone combo for 2k€?

I am thinking hd800?

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>>60147988

>>60147982
we don't like deathgrips here

>>60147932
They're biflange tips so they do go in a bit deeper than 'normal'.
Also, I clean them with cotton swabs fairly regularly. This only seems to happen with iems

>>60148016
>Also, I clean them with cotton swabs fairly regularly.
Don't do this. It's dangerous.

>>60147895
http://shijou.moe/imas-radio/
https://chiru.no
https://ai-radio.org/

>>60147982
>Weeb music
English only speaker here, anon. No use on listening to something I don't understand.

>>60147995
This and the fulla 2 is the best value endgame.

>>60148033
What am I even supposed to do?

>>60148061

The 650 sounds like shit compared to the 800.

>>60147995
>HD 600
>2K€
>It's an "I've never tried anything better, so i'm going to recommend HD 600s" episode

>>60148087
I agree, but we're talking about the 600 here m8, and we're also talking value. The 800's are a thousand fucking dollars.

>>60148139

Im on my 5k€ genelec+b&w sub setup, id like some enjoyable headphones.

Surely I could get some STAX or Audeze, but the game probably ends here.

>>60148187
You're on a completely different level, either you're fortunate, or earn enough money to justify spending that kind of money on headphones. I wouldn't know the quality of that kind of gear and I'm not sure I care, especially when the 600's are apparently still a contender. I'd rather buy a fucking car at that money.

If that level of gear is clearly better, then enjoy it by all means It must be fucking incredible.

>>60148061
Past 3 o'clock @ volume wheel, fulla 2 has a little trouble with HD600. Annoying, but that's too high volume anyway.
Still, Magni2 Uber has you covered, on high gain it is godlike.

>>60148269
>on headphones

Sorry, I meant on audio in general. I know that speakers are technically better at the high end.

>>60148277
I'm not sure what to believe, You're parroting someone else or you're the same guy that spoke about this multiple times before. I'm not hearing anything weird past the 2-3 mark on my dial. Have you spoken about this here multiple times? can you explain what's wrong about the fulla past the 3 mark?

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HD800 AND HD800S FAGGOTS ABSOLUTELY BLOWN THE FUCK OUT!

>>60148269

Headphones will never beat this setup, this house and this space I have to crush my chest with the lower notes from the subwoofer. I just got lucky for a while, this might end soon. Id just like some headphones with deep notes and space to escape:

>>60148337
>still no 600/650 update

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>>60147988
electrostatic:
stax lambda

>>60148387
>implying they need any

>>60148423
build quality

>>60148387
>Implying they won't keep milking their HD 6X0 headphones

Does anyone have the Image of Palpatine wearing sunglasses and earphones?

>>60148376
The 600's are the best headphones I've tried but the bass won't be enough for you as a guess, skip the 650's also.

If you don't mind a peaky treble the 800's are up there, apparently.

>>60148513

The 800 has a new bassier version, the s?

>>60148552
They're apparently slightly better in general, I wouldn't actually know.

>Budget, 300 USD
>Location, USA
>Source, Motherboard
>Type of headphone, Circumaural
>Open or closed, Closed
>Comfort level, Nothing too horrible
>Sound signature, Neutral
>Past headphones, Logitech g230

Hi, /hpg/ this is my first time posting here.
Im looking for a good build quality pair of headphones after my last pair fell apart on me, i've had my eyes on the ath-50x or the MSR7 but i would prefer a pair without any noise canceling or microphone.

My primary useage would be games and listening to music such as electronic or heavy metal or classical.

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>>60147988
>>60148376
Take a look at the Focal Elear. I recently acquired these and they sound gloriously slamming while somehow being open as fuck.
This is coming from HD 650, Stax Lambda normal bias, random other cheaper stuff.

For amp, I guess you'd want something with low output impedance because the Elear has a massive 80-300ohm impedance hump at 50hz. Personally using a Schiit Magni 2, but probably anything would work because they're pretty sensitive.

>>60148337
Why is it so fucking ugly?

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>>60148660
>Blocks your path

>>60148645

Very nice

>>60148092
Can you name a better headphone than HD600?

Thought so. Nobody has been able to for the past few hundred /hpg/s.

>>60148814
I feel like he's talking about me, but that doesn't make me wrong. The 600 is the nicest sounding headphone before you reach silly money, And it's already expensive as it is.

>>60148814

Didnt the HD600 come out in 1998?

>>60148814
>Inb4 HD 600 owner
>Inb4 frequency response graphs now reveal everything

>>60147887
>qtip

>>60148851
Not that guy but yes, now name a clear superior headphone that doesn't cost thousands.

>>60148645
Meh, I found these noticeably worse than HD650 but still a decent headphone. Luckily I was able to compare both side by side, no HD600 was present. I feel like it's a $200 headphone I'm listening to.

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>>60148912
>>60148814

What do I win?

>>60148894
That other anon told me not to though.
So did my doctor.

>>60148942
>Inb4 anon doesn't accept ear dildos

>>60148942
They're not a headphone, But I don't know anything about them, so I can't disagree with you. I'd genuinely love to try them or an iem that beats the 600 though. It would be a weird sensation.

>>60148927

Well fuck me. There are people with actual shit hearing, I discovered this in the military. Some of these people with hearing impairments might have these opinions and do reviews without ever realizing it.

>>60148950
hygiene peroxide

>>60148981
>found x headphone not as good as y headphone subjectively
>you've got shit hearing

You are scum.

>>60148927
Preferences I guess. I really enjoy the impact and extension which seems hard to find in an open set. Mids not as smooth as the HD650 but those are like the smoothest mids ever.

>>60148995

I dont mean to bully, but I no longer trust subjective opinions after a certain price point.

Just got a set of ATH AD1000X. Easily the sound quality of $500+ cans for $270. Can't go wrong.

>>60148643
DT770 Pro 80 ohm limited edition.

>>60147957
>>>60147900
>Flat is boring and uninspired
>Balanced>>>neutral

Why not flat + EQ?

>>60149043
All opinions are subjective, that's why they are opinions and not facts.

>>60149078
Every song is mixed differently and every set of cans are usually different, at the very least in a minimal way. Mix in an AMP with that and now you have even more sound possibilities. That's why you start flat and adjust if needed. Which if you have a nice set of cans and a decent AMP you shouldn't have to.

>>60149078
Why not just have it sound the way you like it from every source by default, without messing with the chain?

>>60149074
Just got a set of $5 IEMs that I EQed to BTFO your $270 headphones.

I've had a pair of M50s for about 5+ years and the band finally snapped and I'm sick of the V shaped sound signature. I'm thinking of getting a pair of K240s so I can experience a somewhat open back sound stage without breaking the bank is this a bad idea? And does anyone know how bad the bleed is on K240s?

>>60149164
Cause not every song is mixed the same?

>>60148988
It can't be helped.

>>60149345
Meant for
>>60149254

>>60147846
Why are headphones so lewd?

>>60149239
I'd get HD598 instead.

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Is this acceptable channel matching for $350 headphones?

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>>60147988
>I am thinking hd800?
Hold your horses fampatchi, it's time for HD820 soon.

>>60148087
I've been hearing that newer HD650 is tonally closer to HD600.

>>60149144
What is this new retardation?

>>60149528
You decide, looks good to me. Channel balance is something that looks bad on graphs but tends not to be a problem and it's fixable.

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https://camelcamelcamel.com/Sennheiser-Open-Back-Professional-Headphone/product/B00004SY4H?context=search

>>60149528
Looks decent, HF are usually fucked on dynamic drivers, planar's seems to get it better. That treble spice tho, what are these?

>>60149528
That's good, not perfect, but still very good.

Want a laugh? See:

https://www.0db.co.kr/xe/index.php?mid=REVIEW_0DB&page=2&document_srl=22808

>>60149620
le HD600 memephone

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>>60149528
>>60149558
>>60149648
I just tried a DT880, and there was an incredibly noticeable imbalance with the left channel at least 2 dB louder. Running sine sweeps, I got stereo shifts from 2khz up. Never had that happen before.

>>60149861
Swapped sides to rule out ears?

>>60149872
Yeah swapped sides to check amplitude imbalance. Usually I don't get stereo shifts with other headphones until around 7khz which I'm not sure if it might be my ears.

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>>60147846
They keep getting lewder

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Hey guys I'm le epik /v/ gaymer.
My Hyper X Cloud II mic just broke the other day and now I need a new headset or headphones and mic combo.
Budget is 250$ max.
Headphone comfort is important to me (I wear glasses). Not sure if I want open or closed ones. I guess open are fine but it shouldn't leak too much sound. Last time I got the xpt100 recommended because I said closed and it's literally a meme.

So yeah, either modmic + TBD headphones or sennheiser game one which seems to be overpized but actually pretty good.

>>60149984
Sennheiser GAME ONE.

>>60149558
Not an argument. You would like us to believe songs aren't mixed differently? And that headphones don't sound different? And that different amps are unable to make the same set of cans sound different? End yourself dipshit.

>>60149984
Open cans have better sound stage than closed within same price brackets. If Sound stage isn't important then It doesn't really matter.

>budget - 100 euro
>location - Germany
>source - s7edge mostly / laptop or pc at work
>type of headphone - over ears
>open or closed - closed
>comfort level - as comfortable as it gets
>sound signature - neutral
>past headphones - Ausdom M05

Hey /hpg/ can you guys help me out a bit please

Recently I broke my Bluetooth headphones and I'm looking for a new pair. This time I doubled my budget so I can get something a little nicer; maybe something more comfortable.
It'd be nice if you guys could recommend a pair with good battery life.

Also if you guys have recommendations for cheap Bluetooth in ears for working out that'd be great

>>60150080
Phillips SHP9500. Not closed but below budget and one of the most comfortable headphones ever. They sound damn good too.

>>60150125
He wants bluetooth headphones, retard.

>>60150147
You don't think he knows that?

m50x or m40x

>>60150231
m45x

>>60150147
Cable is detachable so he can use a Bluetooth receiver. The Bluetooth meme needs to die. They sound like shit and are overpriced. He might as well take his money and wipe his ass with it.

>>60150231
>>60150236
The M45's a better buy

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>>60150237
>They sound like shit
Can you prove this statement?

>>60150255
>He doesn't know the disadvantages of having Bluetooth
Im very surprised, desu.

>>60150267
I don't, that's why I'm asking you to provide proof.

>>60150080
/hpg/ is an elitist circlejerk that knows nothing about bluetooth headphones.

Do your own research and buy a well reviewed product.

>>60150272
>implying he is me

It all comes down to how the audio is transmitted. With Bluetooth it's pretty much going to be 64kb/s 8khz monoural at 8bits/sample. AKA shit. How about instead of being a dumb little fag that literally just admitted you don't know shit about sound you do some research instead so you don't have to go full retard in the future

>>60150342
Ladies, ladies, can you both stop fighting? I'm sure >>60150255 has a good enough reason to buy Bluetooth over wired.

Recommending SHP9500S' to someone who wants closed Bluetooth headphones is as retarded as that Sennheiser shill who suggested some anon to use his HD 600s on the bus.

>>60147846
http://www.brentbutterworth.com/bluetooth-blind-test.html

>>60150381
>that Sennheiser shill who suggested some anon to use his HD 600s on the bus.
Pretty sure that was the AKG shills false flagging to make Sennheiser shills look silly.

>>60150381
>closed
>bluetooth
>comfortable
>sound good
>neutral lmao
>100 euro

I'll stop recommending him a damn good set of headphones even though they don't meet all of his wants the moment you recommend a pair instead of bitching like a cunt on her period

>>60150408
>Being this new
Fuck off; that was during the time the Philips shills were going at it with the Sennheiser shills.

>>60150434
Been here since the ComfyGrados shitposting.

hownu.ru

>>60149984
>Last time I got the xpt100 recommended because I said closed and it's literally a meme.
How so?

>>60150491
>Yet he still doesn't remember TrustyFucks Vs Sennheiser shills
>A shitposting contest that lasted for a month

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>>60150491
>ComfyGrados
I've been here too long ;_;

>>60150508
becuase it's so THICC, 0 comfort.
sound quality is good for closed but that's about it

>>60150577
Do you think he still lurks?

>>60150577
What ever happened to that Horn Loaded tripfag?

>>60150595
Maybe, since he got exposed he literally stopped shitposting.

>>60150624
His grandma's house fell apart because he played his Khorns too loud and he died.

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who else likes earbuds

my sources have confirmed TY Hi-Z have an 800ohm model coming out in june. was impressed with their 400 one so will prob get a pair desu

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thoughts on magni 2 and modi 2, was thinking of getting an amp and a dac for my m50x and dt770s im gonna order soon

I'm sure some of you are linux using faggots. I've always used it on my laptops while I use windows on my desktop. I got an impulse and decided to see how a modern distro felt on high end desktop hardware. So my question to you hpg is what the fuck should I use to listen to music

oh and it HAS TO HAVE A FUCKING GUI

>>60150856
>he spent $300 on an ipod in 2017 xDDD

>>60151007
Foobar2000 in wine

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>>60151026
>using a phone to listen to music

no thanks kiddo

>>60151119
my adventure is over, linux, or more specifically gnome, fucking sucks on desktops.
Windows look like shit while being dragged, different fonts all over the place, chrome scrolling looks like shit, cant click middlewheel-drag scroll, chrome is generally laggy, one "tick" of the scroll wheel moves through an entire page of applications in the "activities" ui, only window management in alt-tab.

Like holy shit, I don't notice any of this shit on my laptop but as soon as you introduce a mouse and two monitors the world falls apart.
Anyway I hope you guys are enjoying your tunes. I am happy to report that both my dac's work in linux with no effort on my end.
Do you people think the ath-m40's with big fat pads are a good closed back complement to my dt990's?

>>60147846
MUH DICK

>>60151207
What DE are you using? You shouldn't have that problem. Getting GNU/Linux to look pretty is kinda difficult sometimes but the final product is totally worth it.

m40s with thicc cowhide pads are awesome, I love mine.

>>60147954
>Buying beyers is retarded.
FTFY

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>>60151196
It's so comfy though. Decent audio whenever I want with out having to carry extra shit with me.

>>60151398
Even penguins know 2d is best

>>60151361
>Inb4 HD 650 owner because treble is too much

>>60151424
Wasn't that penguin shunned out by his group?

>>60151536
He wouldn't eat so they made a wall to keep him away from his waifu

> literally starving himself to be with waifu

>>60151555
I would die of hunger to have 2 hours with my waifu.

>>60151555
Why don't they just take the waifu away?

>>60151578
YOU MONSTER

>>60151196
>not knowing what poweramp is

HD580 > HD600

Prove me wrong.

>>60147846
>Budget
150-300 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
3.5MM or 50MM from DAC
>Type of headphone
Over-Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Good for tens of hours, and comfortable with glasses
>Sound signature
neutral or V
>Past headphones
Nothing good.

>>60151757
ATH M40X with these

http://www.zmfheadphones.com/pads-and-cables/zmf-oval-earpads

in cowhide

>>60151757
>150-300 USD
>Good for tens of hours, and comfortable with glasses
>Closed
>neutral or V

This really activates my almonds

>>60149466
Why?

>>60151795
I dont get it?

>>60151846

Yes

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>>60151382
thats fine for iems but it won't have enough power for much else
>>60151611
>using the phones dac
nigga pls

>>60151925
Suprisingly it's able to drive 250ohm headphones to loud volumes. I almost feel like it's "struggling" to do it though and so I want to buy a full fledged desktop amp for my big headphones but people in this thread have told me multiple times that if it's outputting an okay volume then the headphones are being driven properly. I was going to grab a micca origen plus or a monoprice desktop amp or something

>>60151196
>thinks ipods give more power to headphones than iPhone or any other smart phone.

>>60151846
You're asking the impossible.

>>60150951
They should be good to go but that's an odd pairing of headphones.

>>60148328
>I'm not sure what to believe, You're parroting someone else or you're the same guy that spoke about this multiple times before.
Actually neither. I've found the issue independently, and I've read his "guy that spoke about this multiple times before" too, confirming it's not just me.
It's a minor issue: Having a Magni 2 to compare against does help; I wouldn't be able to tell otherwise.

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>>60151992
>it's outputting an okay volume then the headphones are being driven properly
i would disagree, i've used my zens & 400ohm seahfs using my phone and they're 'loud enough' but are definitely less detailed than when they're amped. i havn't got one myself but if you're looking for a desktop amp the o2 is around the $100 mark
>>60152112
you're a retard

>>60149144
If an amp colors the sound, that's a crap amp. I suggest schiit instead, they care about transparency.

>>60152219
>Autism Awareness
>it's comic sans
HOLY SHIT TRIGGERED

>>60151382
Closest thing to a communication app is gmail.
>gmail
>music player
>camera
>clock
>clover
>browser
Have you ever even spoken to a woman?

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>>60150951
>Modi + Magni
I'd suggest either starting with a Fulla 2 or the Uber version of the stack.

The non-uber modi2 is pointless vs Fulla 2. Suggestions:
- Fulla 2
- Fulla 2 + Magni 2 (possibly uber)
- Modi 2 Uber + Magni 2 Uber (else the magni will look cheap; The metal is different in Uber)

My recommendation among these? Grab just the Fulla 2, as that's likely all you'll ever need. You can in any event buy the rest in the future if not. Here I use Fulla 2 @ Work and uber stack home.

help me convince my friend not to blow $1.5k on a pair of audeze's

>>60151757
Status CB-1 or XPT100 won't require new pads.

DT770 is super comfy with a V shape sound.

>>60151725
>chink plastic > proper
Sure anon.

>>60152353
>Chink plastic > chink plastic

>>60151757
Sennheiser HD380 Pro (neutral with some bass, very comfortable, highly isolating -32dB, detachable cable)
Beyerdynamic DT770 (vshaped, non-detachable cable)
ATH M40X, M50X (neutralish, vshaped respectively, detachable cable, not as comfortable)

>>60152326
>hur dur there's someone I love
>oh fuck brochan just got with this bitch, fml
Retarded girl.

>>60151757
DT770 Pro 80 ohm limited edition.
>>60151725
Both are the same thing, faggot.

K7XX for $190 or HD 598s for $160? Just looking for a comfortable pair I can wear for a while while playing some games.

The K7XX had a 3.5mm jack which would let me use a Voda boom pro mic with it instead of needing to pick up a standalone mic or have several wires coming out of my head with the Antlion. If the 598s had a 3.5mm jack I'd have already gotten them, but I really don't want to mess with an adapter.

>>60152446
>Buying Sennheisers below the HD 600
AKG. I just hope you like that shitty Massdrop wait time.

>>60152446
K7XX use XLR into the headphones and 3.5MM/Quarter inche on the input.

>>60152485
HD600 > HD598 = K612 > K702 > K7XX

>>60152514
Based off of?

>>60152353
theyre both shitty plastic whats your point

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Amperior Superior

>>60152157
whys that? the m50x are nice but i'd prefer something more v shaped every so often so im gonna get dt770

>>60152303
Senpai, did I do good?
>camera
>clock
>browser
>ssh client
>google maps
>more maps (osmand~)
>gmail
>4chan client
>love live en/jp
>deresute

>>60148187
>b&w sub
holding back the genelecs

>>60152514
HD6XX/650 > HD600

>>60149984
Not sure about leakage, but my gaming setup is SHP9500 + vModa BoomPro.
Good sound quality but not as good as Fidelio X2 or HD6X0, but great imaging.
Super comfortable, like I forget I'm wearing them.
Pretty good price though, and the Boom Pro can be used with any headphones with a 3.5mm jack.

anyway to repair a Sennheiser HD280 cord? My audio is going out in my left earphone and I'm wondering if it can be saved.

Alternatively, whats a good 50-100 CAD$ headphone with a removable cord?

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>>60152487
Oh, so I'm an idiot and they won't work with it anyways?

>>60152485
I'm really new to headphones and don't want to drop $250. Is it really that noticeable? The 598s hit a really nice budget point for me.

>>60152964
BoomPro on K7XX? No. I believe there's a knockoff BoomPro on Amazon that works with the 598 though sound signature is all preference.

>>60152964
They both have different sound signatures; I don't think you've told us what you prefer.

>>60152219
>if you're looking for a desktop amp the o2 is around the $100 mark
Shouldn't he get a magni2 for that price range instead

>>60152252
Well based on this and almost every review of an amp I have seen or personally heard 99.9% of all AMPs are shit. Or you're wrong. I wonder which one it could be. Do me a favor. Plug in a set of cans you can run without an amp. Listen to a song. Plug them into your amp. Play the same song. Tell me it doesn't sound different. I'll wait.

>>60152964
Get a set of audio Technicas. M40x or AD700-900x depending on what you want to spend. Get a nice little starter AMP too.

>>60152896
If you like your subbass and you need darkness because treble hate.

HD600 are the better headphones overall.

>>60153038
True for HD598 (amp vs no amp). Very different, due to impedance variation across freq.

But between proper amps, it's the fucking same. My HD598 sounds identical with my magni2uber vs my fulla2.

>>60153082
>If you like your subbass
Yes I do like my subbass to be closer to neutral.
>and you need darkness because treble hate.
Let's not open the can of worms that will result in you spamming cherrypicked frequency response graphs. There are just as many showing the HD600 as having too much or too little treble for this to even be an argument since the 650 are so similar here.

>>60152953
Google HD280 cable replacement or repair. There's a bunch of guides.

I went with HD380 Pro, generally considered an improvement. FR plots make it obvious. Cable is detachable.

>>60153139
A quick search will yield that most reviewers who've reviewed both do prefer the HD600.

Of course, YMMV. People who prefer HD650/6xx do exist.

>Yes I do like my subbass to be closer to neutral.
I can live without a bump in subbass. I've always had trouble with headphone-induced headache before I started using senns, and subbass does definitely not help.

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>>60153020
perhaps, i'm not too familiar with desktop amps just recommending one i've read good things about desu

>>60152837
This.
>>60152896
Nope.

>>60153189
>https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-600/with/aune/b1
That thing? It's quite expensive for what it is, particularly against the magni2:
https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-600/with/schiit/magni-2
Seriously, why would a chink amp be that fucking expensive?

What does a v shape sound look like? How does it compare to neutral? What are the pros and cons for both?

>>60153319
compare the o2 to the magni2 not the b1

>>60153361
It's personal preference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vAxwZirfkI

<3

>>60153396
Yet, the b1 does cost twice as much despite lower specs and chink.

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What's a good Android equalizer that lets you choose the frequency bands? Trying to tone down the sibilance from my GR07s. They would sound great if I could lower 6-7kHz a bit.

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>Budget
$400 is as high as I'd go
>Location
USA, USA
>Source
FiiO e17 alphen
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort is secondary to sound quality
>Sound signature
Switzerland
>Past headphones
Beyer dynamic 770s pro, 880s, ATH-M50x

I have no real complaints about my previous headphones, and I'd be more than willing to buy any one of them again, but I thought I'd try for something else.

>>60153529
it's not even close to twice the price, it's $20 more

>muh specs
b1 is spec'd higher than magni2 in everything other than power output (that site has the wrong specs for the b1 btw)

what are the best wired earbuds for less than $100?

>>60153643
V4A if you want it global though requires root, Neutron for just a player.

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Guys, What DAPs do you guys rate?

I'd like something that has expandable memory, is drag and drop, plays FLAC and has decent chips and battery life. A bit of output power would be nice, but isn't super important as I'll be using IEMs more often than not.

All I've seen that isn't insanely priced is the Fiio, Cayin and iBasso stuff.

Any ideas?

>>60152796
Well they both fulfill the role of full sized closed headphones at a similar price point. If you want a different sound signature, you could save money by EQing it.

The DT770 are probably more comfortable though.

>>60153810
used fiio x1 off of ebay

>>60153810
Have a look at shanling, aune and xduoo

>>60153648
HD380 Pro.

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>>60153007
I don't really have any preference. I'm brand new and I've just been using some Kraken headset for a long time. Anything would be a really big step up, I'm sure, I just was anxious about losing mic capability.
>>60152998
Thanks anon, I'll see if I can find it
>>60153066
I'll take a look, I'd just seen people in a previous thread talk about how comfortable the 598s were, so that was what I'd been looking at

>>60153926
Rudimentary research shows a lot of complaints about sound isolation, which I very much value due to my current living situation. I should have added that. How have your experiences been with those headphones?

>>60154047
Because threads about games go on the board about games.

>>60153926
>>60154071
They're -32dB, which is *a lot*. They're well regarded isolation-wise, so what you're saying is a bit wtf.

I use mine at an open office, and people do not hear my music.

>>60154045
HD 598s are comfier and less fatiguing in general, but K7XXs are arguably more detailed with a wider soundstage. All up to personal preference. I would get the AKGs if you don't them being "bright" headphones; I don't mind, but not everyone does.

>>60153082
>subbass
STOP.

Any <$100 dap's that don't sound like shit ? preferably on ali cause international shipping.

>>60153829
>>60153883
Thanks, I'll have a look!

>>60147887
put a drop or two of hydrogen peroxide in your ear about 10 minutes before jumping in the shower. The peroxide will liquefy the goo and help it rinse out as you go through your normal shower routine. Doing this once a month should help keep things open.

Sometimes, having dry skin in your ear canals can cause extra wax buildup. If you think this could be the case, put a drop of mineral oil in your ears daily to help moisturize them

However, if you've had a hole in your eardrum or have had any ear surgeries in the past, then skip these options. Getting hydrogen peroxide or mineral oil in your inner ear (on the other side of your eardrum) could cause an infection or dizziness. Instead, just use a washcloth to clean your outer ear canal (or the part of your ear you can see).

>>60154045
>>60154148
I just hope you do more research outside of /hpg/.

>>60154158
Mrobo C5 2.0

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Does anyone have the m1060 here? How do you feel about them? How would you compare them to other headphones you have heard or own? Haven't seen them talked much about here as opposed to other enthusiast communities.

>>60154225
Because they're a meme
Enjoy your broken headphones

>>60154228
Not him, but calling them a meme isn't that detailed, anon.

>>60154228
I mean I don't have them, I just want to talk about them instead of you guys arguing over the 600s vs 650s for the 12th time today.

>>60154238
Shit build quality. They had to be pulled off the shelves for a while because the veneer was cracking.
No matter how good they sound, they're not worth it if the build quality is shit (hi chinkfiman)
Wait about six months from now so you can see if the second batch is any better

>>60154252
The five year warranty seems comprehensive enough to where someone wouldn't exactly mind adopting early. Supposedly most of the glaring QC issues have been fixed with this revision.

>>60154276
> The five year warranty
That was actually a mistake. Later they changed it I think for one or two years which is what they currently offer.
They only honored the warranty for people who preordered it while the page displayed the incorrect number.
> Supposedly most of the glaring QC issues have been fixed with this revision
Pretty sure it started shipping recently. Give it more time. Six months seems to be a good timeframe to see if they fixed it.

>>60154276
>Supposedly most of the glaring QC issues have been fixed with this revision.
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/68dctb/my_m1060_cracked_how_likely_is_this_to_worsen/

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>>60154301
Currently on the monoprice product page.

>>60154323
Yeah, I saw that. I guess we'll have to wait and see if it's more widespread than this one confirmed Rev 2 case so far. Apparently, he lives in a very dry environment.

What do I use to equalize my HD600? I only have a Fulla 2.

>>60147846
I can get the HD8 for more than half price, (~180AUD) are they worth it. Need to upgrade from 6 year old HD280

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>>60154148
>>60154196
I did read some reviews on the different headphones I'd wanted to pick up. I just trust most of /g/ more than review sites so I thought I'd ask everyone's opinion

thanks for the advice, appreciate it

>>60154482
Where do you live? There is this sennheiser refurber based out of Austin that has a bunch of HD 600 and 650s for pretty cheap. 180 and 190 USD respectively.

>>60154414
I hear the cracking can be avoided by waxing the inside ring of the wood

>>60153648
Oppo PM-3.
>>60154459
APO.

>>60154535
>APO
You expect me to just know what this acronym means? Googling it just shows stocks.

>>60154550
Equalizer APO, son.

Best cheaper Bluetooth over-ears?

Bonus if I an also plug them in when the battery dies.

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>>60154511
I actually live in San Antonio, that seems pretty close. Is it a company that does this?

>>60154606
Oh I am in San Antonio too! The company is RenewLogic and the seller advertises on /r/AVexchange and sells on ebay as well.

Here is his thread if you're interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AVexchange/comments/682tbh/wts_sennheiser_hd600_austin_tx_185/

I was thinking about going in for a pair of his hd 600.

>>60154604
Also yes, willing to sacrifice quality of sound for wireless. They're for working out and at work.

>>60149537
From what I know from our local distributor these are supposed to be a wireless model and can only be used with the accompanying amp/DAC.

>>60148645
Elear sound weird as hell to me, I don't know what those folks at SBAF are smoking when they claimed that these are the spiritual successor to the HD650, they don't even sound fucking alike.

Anyway to the guy asking for a $2,000 headphone I would probably wait for the upcoming Audeze LCD Pro. Non-fazor design and it's supposed to be 300-ish gram making them the lightest Audeze can yet. They already come with the new suspension headband so comfort is not going to be a big issue anymore.

>>60154682
>wireless model
Well fuck.

>>60154742
>Audeze
Too bad they'll still sound and be built like shit.

>>60154459
>equalize my HD600
Why? This hp doesn't really need eq.

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>>60154636
thanks for the headsup, I'll take a look at them
that's certainly cheap if they're decently refurbed

People from your area contributing anonymously to an image board? More likely that you'd think.

>>60154535
Looking into those oppos and I like what I see. Gonna to see if I can try some out in the near future.

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>>60154861
>Looking into those oppos and I like what I see. Gonna to see if I can try some out in the near future.

They're well reviewed, built really nice, have a relatively neutral / bassy sound that many will enjoy. Not the best isolation and not the largest earcups but anything larger and it would look goofy in public. I really like mine and I owned all the previous headphones that you did.

>>60154837
I've heard amazing things about them from many people in headphone discords so he seems like he does a great job. Worst comes to worst, you have to buy some cheap earpads or cables!

>>60154894
Gonna need some sauce senpai.

Google isnt helping

>>60147887
I thought this only happened to me

>>60154930
>headphone discords
I can't imagine autism this concentrated and I've been frequenting /hpg/ for years

>>60154894
Absolutely disgusting

>>60154963
Mika Kano.
>>60154980
I wonder what those reddit autists chat about in the discord.

>>60154894
>those veins
Tonight 3D was PD

>>60154992
bitch is like 50, but 3d is always pd

>>60154980
It's not too bad DMS3 TV's discord is chill but Zeos' is exactly how you would expect it to be. Still cool with a lot of people that use both.

>>60155045
>DMS3 TV
Never heard of the kid but he looks like a fucking tool with those gauges and strikes me as a clueless redditor with the acoustic foam on his wall.
>Zeos
555-Come-On-Now

>>60155045
>t. Gofspar

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>>60154742
>Audeze LCD Pro
Why are these manufacturers shitting out new models every few months?

>>60154989
>I wonder what those reddit autists chat about in the discord.
They were talking about how you need to have the schiit ygdrassil on for 6 days straight before it reaches its potential earlier today. And if you take the cable out at all it messes it up. They said at the 3 day point it was about as good as a gugnir, only reaching its true potential after 6 days.

>>60155144
Sounds like they're just parroting SBAF

>>60155157
I wish there was a complete forum dedicated to audio measurements and stuff like that, not just dead subsections of forums.

>>60155183
Not many people can afford proper setups, best you'll get is something like SBAF where people just throw together flat coupler rigs (which admittedly are much better for comparing headphones across different sources)

>>60154682
Doesn't sound plausible when the HDV 820 has no wireless capabilities on its end.

>buy ATH-M40X
>absolutely no bass
*deletes rap catalogue*

But seriously did I get memed or are my ears broken

>>60155485
Give it a week or so for your ears to adjust

>Convert Hotel California to V6 just for kicks
>Can't tell the difference
?!?
Did I go deaf when I turned 21? Can you guys hear any differences? They sound identical to me

FLAC
https://my.mixtape.moe/iyggrg.flac
V6
https://my.mixtape.moe/zosqjh.mp3

>Budget
$500
>Headphones
HD6XX

I need a new DAC and AMP for these. They sound great on my STX II, but every 2-3 months, I get this terrible max volume whine and white noise randomly.

From skimming the thread, I'm thinking Magni 2 and Modi 2 Uber? Considering that or the O2+ODAC. The latter only goes up to 24/96, so I am leaning towards the former.

>>60155497
Ok good, could also be the possibility that my computers audio is fucked though.

>>60155538
Both would be fine.

>>60155530
I think your shit taste in music is affecting your hearing.

>>60155581
go back to /mu/

>>60155554
Cool thanks. Gonna grab the Magni/Modi combo then. I don't really want to resample the 24/192 stuff I have.

>>60155590
I'm pretty sure /mu/ loves the Eagles

>>60148927
Completely agree from my time trying these. I read someone saying these are a great contender in their price range, and went WTF on first listen. Makes me a little skeptical of the Utopia.

>>60148927
I wouldn't say noticeable worse but they definitely weren't better than the HD650, their midrange is nowhere near as smooth and they're a bit hard on the lower treble

>>60155548
If your onboard has hissing/static, not loud enough or there's noticable distorting, get an amp/DAC. Maybe even a combo of the two for harder to drive headphones like K712, DT880, HD 600, etc.

>>60154225
The wood still cracks at the joints on the revision 2. Fuck 'em

>>60155538
NFB-11

>>60155804
>NFB-11
Stop shilling audio-gd garbage you utter retard you don't know anything about audio gear

Using a Fulla 2 and a y splitter to feed active speakers and a subwoofer. Sub has a lowpass dial, but how much of a difference would a crossover make for the speakers?

Thinking about a MiniDsp to handle the crossover.

>>60155823
You don't know anything about me. Have you even listened to the HD650/6XX through the NFB-11 before?

>>60155851
I would never degrade the performance of my HD650 like that.

>>60155863
So then you don't know anything about the NFB-11. Why do you assume it would "degrade" anything?

>>60155887
audio-gd equipment is garbage and the NFB-11 is worse than a FiiO combo unit.

>>60155887
Because it's not Schiit and SBAF told me audio-gd is bad.

>>60155938
yeah headi-fi told you audio-gd are good and how dare anybody say any different

>>60155887
There are multiple Schiit shills around here that shit on anything that isn't a schiit stack.
Just learn to ignore them and call them out whenever you see them

>>60155907
So you're just shitposting and making generalizations over your brand loyalty.

wew lad

>>60155972
You're recommending shitty products that retail for $305USD and sound worse than $60USD products, for what purpose?

At least the Schiit/JDS Labs shills can hide behind the fact that their products cost $99 or $199 for the DAC/amp.

There is not a single reason to buy the NFB-11.

>>60155941
Whoa brother, hold your horses, I'm on your side. Perhaps we should read "Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up" together, to better strengthen our resolve and more efficiently promote Schiit's USA made products.

>>60156004
no let's instead go around recommending overpriced chinese garbage.

>>60155985
>and sound worse than $60USD products, for what purpose?
give proofs

>>60156023
It's up to you to justify the additional cost of it over the $60 option when you're recommending it.

>>60156023
You're arguing with a shill friend
Notice his carefully chosen words
"sounds worse", not "measures worse". It's impossible to prove him wrong because he's using subjective imaginary measurements.

>>60156044
Nobody has measured the NFB-11, but the Singularity 19 measured worse than an iPhone 5 and it is a higher end model than the NFB-11.

>>60156058
I don't think anyone thinks the Singularity 19 didn't shit the bed, but that doesn't say anything about the NFB-11.

>>60156062
It says something about audio-gd's ability to design a product.

Funny how all the audio-gd fans are on head-fi and never discuss measured performance, because nobody measures their products.

>>60150333
Yeah quickly realized that after posting

I guess the audiophiles needs regarding headphones are just different than mine or the general publics

>>60156062
>>60156065
http://www.changstar.com/www.changstar.com/index.php/topic%2c1607.msg42548.html#msg42548

Oh look another instance of worse-than-iPhone performance, this time it's an NFB line product so it's more comparable to your 11.

>>60147933
its for his disgusting ears. it works wonders honestly if you cant use a qtip on a regular basis

>>60156084

"IMD is actually decently clean overall. THD "cleanliness" depends on the filter used. At least it's generally just 2nd and 3rd order stuff that is a bit high. Subjectively, though, I think this DAC sounds pretty darn good despite the slightly high numbers in some areas. It also just does really well in some areas. For the $150 I paid, it's probably one of the best audio investments I've made in a long while!"

Wow, sounds like he really hated it. Truly terrible.

>>60156123
How desperate must you be to justify your shilling of audio-gd on the only subjective part of the 'review'? Who was crying 'muh measurements' just a moment ago?

>>60155985
>There is not a single reason to buy the NFB-11.

The NFB-11 has a better amp and a better DAC than the Modi 2 Uber / Magni 2 Uber stack, which is $150 + $150, and only costs only a little bit more.

>You're recommending shitty products

You haven't even backed up any of the sweeping generalizations you've made, saying it just "sounds worse" when you haven't even heard how it sounds before.

>>60156138
>The NFB-11 has a better amp and a better DAC than the Modi 2 Uber / Magni 2 Uber stack, which is $150 + $150, and only costs only a little bit more.
[citation needed]
>You haven't even backed up any of the sweeping generalizations you've made
How ironic for you to say this in a post that makes claims without backing them up

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>shoving this many components into a DAC just for it to sound worse than an iPhone
thinking emoji

>>60156143
>How ironic for you to say this in a post that makes claims without backing them up

It's my own personal experience. I made a recommendation within his budget of $500. Feel free to do so as well if you disagree with me.

>>60156130
Dunno, wasn't me. I was just annoyed with you posting an article claiming something, reading it and seeing something completely different. I don't even own a NFB-11, I just think you're full of shit.

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>>60151007
I like Banshee, for the interface. Separate panes for artists, albums, and songs. That's pretty much all I care about.

>>60156263
>shilling products you own for the sake of reassuring yourself that you made the right purchase decision
I'm not sure why you even think you can claim the amp and DAC are better when you're using nothing more than anecdotal evidence.

>>60150014
I said none of that. If your amplifiers make the set of headphones sound different, you have one or two shitty amplifiers. Headphones and masters obviously differ. You fix the headphone's sound by equalization, masters not so much as their problems are much more complex than frequency magnitude differences. It's a also not the job of your setup to even try to somehow compensate for production track by track basis.

>>60150342
It's capable of multiple times that in data rate in stereo with error correction. Why did you post that? Do you some research.

>>60152133
Yet DT770 is a near perfect fit for the req.

>>60154682
Wireless high end headphone is the most interesting thing I've heard in a while. I want to believe.

>>60147887
Bose earphones

>>60155581
hating on the eagles is cool and all but Hotel California is pretty much one of the go to songs to test out your headphones.

go to sleep, thread

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China vs Japan who wins??? Just did an a b test for the DAC component into my HiFi speaker amps.

>Budget
$150-ish max
>Location
USA
>Source
My computer
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Either. I most likely wont be taking these out of my room much
>Comfort level
10/10 or as close as I can get in my price range. This is the most important factor for me. I get headaches easily, so something that doesnt put too much pressure on my skull, is a necessity. Will be worn for hours at a time, so factor that in as well

Thanks!

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>>60156138
>Better DAC
Imagine that instead of pretzels it says DAC.

>>60157629
The thread's past the bump limit, post in the next one when it pops up.

>>60157761
alright, thanks

>>60157619
What speaker amps?

>>60156316
That's pretty nice, I'll check it out although I gave up on the desktop after an hour. Arch is wonderful on my laptop because I don't do much of anything besides take notes and web browse which linux is perfect for. It feels like shit on the desktop though. This is barely related to headphones though so I'll gtfo now

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>zuperdac
is this just a meme or should I get it?
only planning to drive 32-80 ohm headphones and my chink IEMs

>>60158392
Higher impedance = easier to drive

Higher impedance = generally lower voltage sensitivity although there are exceptions to this, too. To counter lowered sensitivity you need more voltage swing but there isn't anything else you need to worry about.

Generally you never need to know the impedance of your headphones. You just need their voltage sensitivity which the impedance does not give.

Why are you considering that?

New thread:

>>60158551
>>60158551
>>60158551

>>60154775
Their QC is still miles ahead of their fellow planar magnetic competitors.

>>60155102
I would give fair credits to Audeze for focusing on the $300-1000 market for the past year or so. Apparently the LCD Pro is going to be priced similarly to the classic LCD2 as well so that's nice.

Tech illiterate here, my logitech g35 just broke, and I could use some advice on what to buy this time.

I'll be using them mainly for videogames and music, so no need for amazing sound quality. However, I'll be using them A LOT, so they would need to be comfortable, and as durable as possible. That said:

>Budget: ~100€ max
>Location: Spain
>Source: PC. Videogames, music, movies, skype... Nothing special
>Type: Full sized, closed. Noise cancelling a big plus
>Comfort level: Comfort>Sound quality. I don't want earrape either, but you get the idea.
>Past headphones: Tritton AX180, Logitech G35. Both broken at the band, even though I'm quite careful.

In short:
100€, comfortable, strong, noise cancelling, mic?