/wt/ - Watch Thread

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>>60125278
I offered this grouping for a GMT master II ceramic and he declined. I am having a hard time waiting patiently for my next watch. Need more canacuck bucks.

>>60125527
How can you have a modern rolex, a tiny gold bar, and be short just another tiny gold bar to get another rolex?

Don't you have a buffer for times like these?

>>60125606
Most of my money is tied up in savings that I refuse to touch for hobbies and such. So I have a watch fund that grows slowly.

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I still love this watch after wearing it daily for 3 years. It always was -4s/d late, currently it keeps perfect time for whatever reason.

>picture from right now

>>60125654
also since I never post pictures on here or view them at a big screen. I'm pleasantly surprised at the HTC 10 picture quality on auto mode.

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>>60125278
Not sure. I assume they got their movements in bulk from the Swiss and assembled the rest in the US to compete with actual American watch makers at the time.

>>60125712
Meant to cross reply to
>>60125582

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Slow thread. Post wrist shots

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bump cyka blyat

>>60125654
Nice, do you only wear it on the bracelet?

>>60126062
I need a diver in my life. Swiss not commie. Yours is still nice tho

>>60125582
>>60125582

The movement is from Switzerland making it a "Swiss" watch

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>>60126004
Ok.

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>>60126062

650 best Amphibia case

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>>60126088
Its a good watch for the price, my "mod" was inspired by pic related
>>60126167
woha is this case new? never seen it before, it would serve my mod even better

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we posting amphibias now?

>>60126188
I think >>60126167 is an Amphibia SE which is Vostok's "refreshed" Amphibia line

>>60126083
yep, it's comfy.

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>Tfw I'm in the UK so I have to wear my shitty tag quartz aqua racer so I don't get mugged

Feels bad man. Can't wait to get back to my country in June. I'm going to buy a VC overseas simple date.

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Dad's watch

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>>60126287
Pic of watch.

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>>60126232
Yeah.

Fuck, marry, kill?

>>60126289
Super cool anon. What does he do for a living?

>>60126332
kill all

>>60126332
is the middle one a 420 case with that custom rounded bezel?

>>60126340
he's obviously a pimp.

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>swiss made high-end master race patrician collector here

>>60126366

Exactly, custom "smooth bezel" and custom (((franken))) vintage Komandirskie dial.

>>60126332

The SE deserves some fugg at least...

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>>60126380
Is something bothering you anon?

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>>60126004

>>60126398
Nah. Just your daily reminder that mechanicals are inferior

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>>60126332
BOCKTOKBOIIIS

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>thinly veiled shibe pic

My first mechanical after 17 years of not ever caring about watches

>>60126287
What would make you choose the VC overseas over the Royal oak or nautilus?

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Would you?

>>60126004

Do the new 39mm OPs come with that rubber strap?

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i bought a vintage digital casio with no strap. is the original casio replacement resin strap worth it (cca. 20 € with shipping) or should i get the knockoff version for about 10 €?

additional info: the watch cost me 10 €

>>60127206
QUARTZ

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>>60126004

>>60127197
Quite a few reasons actually.
Nautilus:
> Out of my price range
> I feel like it suits older men than me
otherwise, I adore this watch.

the Royal Oak:
> The watch is "stands out" way too much for my taste
> It honestly became a meme in my country. All the "celebs" or wanna-be show offs either buy a fake royal oak or a genuine one. either way I feel like it lost its prestige here. I was considering buying the Ultra Thin but now I changed my mind.

Overall, The Overseas suits my needs & I really like the interchangeable bracelets.

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What does /wt/ think of the Seiko Turtle? I'm thinking of getting it over the skx009 cause of the hacking/winding, but I'm not too sure on the large case.

>>60128377
I wish I could get the skx009 but with the movement of this

>>60127206
No, that looks awful

>>60128377
It wears small thanks to the short lug to lug. You should get the padi one, it's way sexier than the normal pepsi.

>>60127926
Nato

>>60128377
Yeah get the turtle. With the bracelet.

>>60128419
>>60128457
My wrist size is only 6.5,

Are Fortis pieces of dog shit? They recently had a price decrease on Watchbuys.

Also how good are the Halios watches I'm considering a Seaforth

>>60127738
Nope. Irritatingly the bracelets don't come with the easy link extension either.

Can this be fixed? Dial is off, the rest seems ok.

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>>60128625
pic.

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Comfy Saturday. This showed up in the mail. I know it won't impress any of you guys, but I think it looks nice, and it was cheap—$150 shipped. Vitnamese croc strap is in the mail.

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>>60125278

My 16220

>>60128675

Can any jeweler polish the glass, or do I have to send it off?

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>>60128651
>sideways pic
wow it's like 1997 here on 4chan

>>60127206

QUARTZ is my favorite brand I suppose...

>>60125278
I've been lurking for months and I still don't know whether I should cop this SARB017 or not. It's the only watch I really like but it'd also be my first watch. I'm also afraid of all the misaligned issues I've been reading about. Good choice or nah?

>>60128348
>The Overseas suits my needs & I really like the interchangeable bracelets.
The way they make it so easy really is a nice plus.
What country are you in?
RO's are a meme where I live too, but since people literally aspire to be walking memes draped in every fucking gaudy brand named shit under the sun, it doesn't seem to bother most.

>>60126232
>>60126062
How much would you pay for these?

>>60128734
30 to 120 depending on condition/features/specs

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>>60128692
>IIII

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>>60128746
>tfw most roman numeral watches appear to use IIII
can anyone tell me why this is?

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Lurker here. Bought this on eBay for £20, production serial number says it's from Jan '85. It loses between 2 - 5 min per day, though. Are they expensive to service?

>>60128765
>>60128746
Because that's the normal way for watches to do it, and was also common to see in ancient Rome.

It also divides the dial neatly into thirds. You have 4 numbers composed of only "I" 4 with a "V" and 4 with an "X."

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>>60128833
Well then why is anon bullying me :(

>>60128746
>>60128765
This is normal on many watches, both vintages and new ones.

>>60128514
They're fine watches objectively, in the same way Oris and Sinn are. You're just buying from the absolute worst fucking price point. Save up and go higher.

>>60128765
Probably II + II.

>>60126340
Sales. It belonged to my grandfather who was a less successful version than Donald Trump

>>60128675
I don't usually recommend polishing but it kind of needs it overall.

>>60128746
>>60128765
every time I see this I can't tell if that valet is a teenaged kid or middle aged

>>60128990
Spic here, I'd say he's 16

Please help me! Is it normal for a Tissot Visodate automatic watch to gain 3 minutes in one week? I mean, once I brought my watch to the shop where I bought it and they told me that they checked the movements and that everything should be fine from then, but after a week or so I started noticing that my watch had gone 3 minutes earlier than the current time in my zone. I'm puzzled.

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>>60128648
bump for seiko 5 answers

>>60129099
honestly +/- 30 seconds a day is already good for an automatic that isn't GS or COSC

just get a quartz if you can't handle the variation

>>60128724
Kuwait.
It's not only that it's a meme. The fact that almost everyone will recognise your watch and therefore immediately assume it is fake (because of my age & also the huge amount of fakes floating around) is a huge slap on the face for a watch enthusiast (and anyone honestly, since you're dropping 20k on that watch).

I blame hip hop & those rich instagram fag kids for ruining the brand. AP is slowly turning into Hublot with their meme limited editions, too.

>>60129172
>>60128724

the royal oak is also nauseatingly ugly

>>60129172
Audemars Nigguet has made their bed. Now they can lie in it. As far as I am considering concerned they should no longer be considered on the level of Patek, VC, ALS or JLC.

>>60128514
Fortis is fine, they have nothing special going for them but if you like a design they're not bad watches.

>>60129099
That is not normal. It should run withing about + or - 10 seconds a day, so one minute a week would be reasonable, but not 3. It's either magnetized or needs to be regulated. Any decent independent watchmaker should be able to do both.

>>60128514
Fortis are just another brand shoving ETA movements into outsourced cases. Only consider if the price is very good.

>>60125278
Please help me /g/ I'm a tasteless cunt and I need some help

My cousin is a huuuge weeb, and his birthday is coming up, his 21st as it happens, I've been thinking about getting him a jap watch of some kind, preferably with jap numerals. What would be something reasonably tasteful?

>>60129172
>& also the huge amount of fakes floating around)
There are that many fakes in Kuwait?
I would have assumed that fakes wouldn't really be a thing in those oil rich arab countries.
>I blame hip hop & those rich instagram fag kids for ruining the brand. AP is slowly turning into Hublot with their meme limited editions, too.
This is a worry; they're already a one trick pony and pretty much all their other stuff is boring ass shit.

But I guess at least it had something, one thing that was iconic, even if they've milked that dry so hard that the nipple's inverted and now actively sucking IN milk.

Out of the old swiss trinity, VC as a brand as a whole just hasn't got that iconic thing that makes them them. Sure they have some nice pieces, and I keep looking at their patrimony traditionelle (rose gold, small seconds at 6) for a nice hand wound dress watch because not only does it just look nicer than the equivalent patek, but the movement's technically better too and not tiny itsy bitsy (PP 5196's 215 girly girl movement).

But the fact that they're owned by the Richemont, the great whore, really puts me off.

At least AP and PP are still "independent", for what it's worth. And at least I wouldn't have to subject myself to the arduous process that is richemont "service". They like selling you new shit but don't like maintaining the old.

They cheapout in most countries and have one (fucking one) service center that handles all their brands, sending off complicated pieces to switzerland.

I don't like that. Puts me off the other obvious contender, Lange, as well, though there seem to be far fewer horror stories.

Decisions, decisions.

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>>60125278
>tfw you post a picture of your watch and realize you didn't wipe it down first

>>60129293

Budget?

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>>60129293
They don't use Japanese numbers on watches generally. I mean, they know arabic numerals, I believe they use them for math like pretty much everyone in the world.

They'll use day Kanji though.

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>>60129293
EVA gshock is the only choice

>>60129343
> I would have assumed that fakes wouldn't really be a thing in those oil rich arab countries.
That is the case ONLY in Qatar (very small population and most of them are stupid = pay a lot for doing almost nothing).
The only people who are rich because of oil money in my country are the people who literally steal oil/oil money (i.e. very high-ranking families & some individuals from the royal family). Otherwise, the population is pretty much like any other country.
But Kuwaitis like to stunt a lot. You see the streets full of Mercedes Benz, Audi, BMW, Porche cars. How is that possible? Most people take out loans to buy this expensive shit.

Anyway, I don't care much about the servicing since I intend on selling the watch in a few years and buying something else.

>>60129404
is that the skx007 or 013?

>>60129391
~$500AUD, but I could probably convince some relatives to pitch in up to $1500AUD

>>60129404
Yeah I did some quick googling and found that out, I mean they definitely exist but seem a bit rare. Open to simply japanese makers if the price range is a bit restrictive of course.

>>60129456
Holy shit that's gaudy, but he'd probably actually like it... I'll definitely keep that in mind.

>>60129460
looks like a 007 based on the proportions of the watch.

>>60129500
pepsi dial is so much better imo

>>60129404
fuck off ninefag

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>>60129343
VC has been putting out some kick-ass grand complications as well. The Celestia Astronomical is quite something.

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>>60128484
Here is my turtle on my 6.5 wrist. Fits pretty well considering.

>>60129239
Ok thank you
> magnetized
I work on the computer each day, can this be a problem for the watch?

>>60128847
Second row left is the answer, amirite,

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>>60130091
this is the answer IMO

>>60128847
Bottom right.

>>60128847
>>60130176
Nope.

>>60130230
>Nope.
explain your logic

>>60130230
Rolex wearer detected

>>60130257
Every row is a variation of square / circle / triangle, order doesn't matter.

The second row is each figure from the top row mirrored down the middle.

The bottom row is the middle row with one side (doesn't matter which side) returned to the position from the first row.

So it's either bottom right, or the fully mirrored image of bottom right.
Since the latter isn't an option, it's bottom right.

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Ive been looking at so many watches, the Black Bay in red is probably my fave, or a new milgauss in blue and that green edged glass.

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>>60130318
dafuq are you on about

>>60130318
>mirrored down the middle.
I probably meant "cut vertically down the middle and then each side flipped horizontally".

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>>60130385
>*inhales through nose*
WRONG

>>60130318
>>60130386
>>60130423
>w-well even though the other shapes each half a complete iteration, an iteration sliced down the middle and flipped over the vertical axis in opposite directions, and one sliced, flipped over vert, with the right side flipped over x as well, t-t-t-the last shape is different
tfw share this thread with stupids

>>60129527
Yes they have, and that is great for the art an science of horology overall, however the brand itself is still just floating around with no real vision except "try to sell more to the chinese", which isn't exactly an unique trait in itself.

DESU I tend to gloss over all these grand complication types these days, unless it's something truly marvelous. They all sorta blur into one, with some exceptions. It's all well and good for a company to have innovation in their lofty, experimental line, but it's their functional pieces that actually sell and it's those pieces that reinforce the brand's identity, and as far as identity goes VC just draws a blank.

Run through the various makers out there, big and small and something, whether it be some defining shared mechanical innovation, a unified design philosophy, or even one or two defining models or traits, will immediately pop into mind.

They can lay claim to being the oldest surviving watchmaking house, but that's about it.
With them being owned by a mass luxury goods conglomerate, I fear that they will not get the freedom they need to truly shine, although Richemont has been infinitely better at this compared to Swatch, whose stranglehold and micromanagement strictly reinforces the arbitrary divisions between their various brands (ie. lower longines into the sewer and keep it there and fluff omega up far beyond its worth etc.).

I want to like the brand.

>>60129467

you should check out seiyajapan.com. pretty much everything he stocks is JDM-only and everything is made in japan.

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>>60130487

I like that Vacheron keeps with the Crusader themes. The regular Patrimony is always going to be in tough competition with the Patek Calatrava. I would focus on some of their unique offerings like the Malte or Historique collection.

The Overseas line has a lot of potential too as the Royal Oak is gaudy, and most Nautilus' kind of suck and don't feel properly "Patek-y" or look very nice. If they tried making the Overseas as basically a Haute Horology Rolex alternative they could kick ass as a lot of guys don't want to be another fuckhead with a steel sports Rolex but nearly everyone else selling watches in that pricepoint (including JLC) don't have anything exactly spectacular.

>>60130460
I made a horrible mistake, ok?

>>60130795
sudden death round: what watch r u wearin right now

>>60130829
SARB017

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>>60128648
Broken dial feet. There are replacement dial feet made, the church of horology require them to be soldered, but personally I stopped doing that after burning a few white dials. Now I just say fuck it and use the highest quality Loctite superglue to secure the replacement feet.

>>60130859
Could you use the same glue Rolex uses to put on Cyclops lenses? That shit lasts for fucking decades (if not centuries) and is borderline impossible to take off.

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>>60127206
>>60128700
>>60127990
I'm gonna create a microbrand called QUARTZ that makes watches with faceted crystals and Japanese automatic movements, and sue the fuck out of every chink sweatshop and sterile fashion brand.

>>60130937
Most cyclopses are afixed by a simple epoxy resin, thing is, it bonds different surfaces with different strength. Turns out shit just happens to be real fucking good with Sapphire crystal.

>>60130975
>sue
>Chink company
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No.
They just forclose that company, and start up under a new name, sticking you with the legal fees.

I recently bought baby's first watch. A $120 Timex but it's so plain that I feel out of place posting it here. It's BLACKED out.

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>find a pilot watch I really really like
>it's sold out literally everywhere except Amazon, where some chucklefuck is selling it for twice what it originally was
>eventually find out Orient discontinued it entirely
FUCK

Anyone know a similar watch under $200? It's 42 mm. It could have a black or blue dial. Also note the dial is type b.

>>60131014
nobody here wants to see timex anyway (not that it's bad)

this place is to watches as /fa/ is to fashion
unless you're wearing some avant garde shit nobody cares

How bad is Swatch /g/?
I know you hate them but if I buy one of their $120 automatics does it break down and shit or just look bad to connaisseurs in watch threads?

Does quality automatic exist around that price?

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>>60131132
it's fine. it'll work pretty good for a few years and then probably break, at which point it will stop working and you'll throw it away.

>>60131132
A "good" watch according to /wt/ is one that is interesting, this can be interesting aesthetic designs (Note, interesting does not mean dogshit hideous, but genuinely nice and otherwise thoughtful design), inhouse movements are always cool, which is why Orient is held in such high esteem here especially.
Other good cheapo mechanicals are ones that you can just have fun modding to fuck. Like Vostoks. They're also great learner watches as you can buy whole movements and even replacement parts from Meramon.

SWATCH is as generic as you can get, they're a corporation based around the unification of product lines into one cheap assembly. That's not to say they don't have good cheap watches though.

>>60131187
>SWATCH is as generic as you can get, they're a corporation based around the unification of product lines into one cheap assembly.

This.

They're the GM of the watch industry and they really, really fucking suck. There best brand is Omega and even that is like 90% of Rolex price for 10% Rolex effort.

>>60128847
Top right.

The sequence is rotate one half by 180°, then rotate the other half and flip the whole image vertically. I'll try to draw a picture to explain it better, then kill myself because I'm not a supergenius that figured it out in one minute.

>>60131055
There's a korean company that does a flieger using a miyota movement. I've forgotten the name, but surely someone here knows.

>>60131055
>seiko snk 809
>timex explorer

>>60131239
>>60130460

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>>60129293

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>>60131239
Shit fuck, I mean top mid. I just woke up from a two hour post work dead-on-my-feat nap.

So this is my idea.

I fell for the smartwatch meme seeing the Pebble 2 SE for $50 at Target. I had been eyeing it for several months. For how I view smartwatches (digital sport watch that receives notifications), I cannot remotely justify the usual $300.

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>>60131467
i can't wait to get rid of the rubber strap. It's comfortable, but I don't like it aesthetically, one bit.

>>60131467

I had a Pebble for a while but the majority of the time I would use it to tell time.

The notifications were pointless because my phone is always on my person. And the screen on the smart watch is too small for it to be useful in terms of replying to sms or email.

>>60131257
Anyone know what he's talking about?

>>60131286
The 809 is too small for my liking. They made sort of a larger version, the snzg15, but it doesn't have a type b dial. I'll check out the explorer.

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>>60128847
BTW sorry for bully, I just like the neatness of IV :^)

>>60131532
i can't judge the notification factor yet, at its still a novelty to me. As the far as the screen being small, it's fine for what it is to me. I have no interest in using a watch to text, email, etc...that's just not feasible imo.

>>60121326
Any watch that Wm Gibson has collected should qualify.

>>60128804

Neat, can you recommend any other affordable watch with celestial complication?

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>>60131885
aside from the exact same watch from citizen, I don't know anything I'd call a celestial complication in anything I'd call an affordable range, aside from moonphases (plenty of those obviously). Probably the closest I've seen the Martin Braun EOS, which has a sunrise/sunset indicator and can be had for less than 5k used.

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I've just bought this vintage Pobeda with Bauhaus dial for just 26€, isn't it nice catch?

>>60120315
The coolest movement.

Sad because my Rolex still hasn't arrived after a week.

>>60132382
Case is rough. but it's a nice dial, and assuming that's the movement, then kept in good care.

>>60132382

I would have the case chemically stripped then redone with chrome or rhodium.

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>>60132382
Not bad, but should have stuck with needle hands. After the war the Soviets took a huge chunk of the industry (and the designers working in them) of the eastern part of Germany as reparations. Simson, Zeiss, military factories etc. all had their shit taken by the USSR, so I wouldn't be surprised they found the plans for some Stowa Antea-style watch in some Glashütte factory and decided to "borrow" the aesthetic design.

>>60132687
>After the war the Soviets took a huge chunk of the industry (and the designers working in them) of the eastern part of Germany as reparations. Simson, Zeiss, military factories etc. all had their shit taken by the USSR
One of the coolest things I saw at the "House of German History" museum or whatever the fuck it's called in Bonn (Haus der Geschichte?) was an old lens grinding machine by Zeiss.

Thing looked like it weighed 2 tonnes. Anyway, the little plaque noted that the machine was hauled off by the soviets just after the war and was not seen again until the fall of the soviet union.

The thing was STILL being used in some factory on the outskirts of Moscow in 1994.

Jerry made good shit back then; everybody wanted a piece, whether it was nuclear physicists or flush lavatories.

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Was Raketa the peak of commie aesthetics?

>>60132867
They didn't just take equipment, they took patents and shit. Not just the Soviets, the Allies too. The parts of Carl Zeiss stuck in the Soviet Zone later survived as Zeiss Jena though, and reunified with the original company after the fall of the wall.

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How can Poljot, Vostok and Slava even compete?

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>he doesn't have a scubadude caseback
Sad!

I've got £250 to spend on a watch (could stretch). I'll be starting university this September so I want it to be relatively casual and versatile with lots of different clothes.
What watch would you pick in my situation

>>60131611
>>60131370
see
>>60130460
>>60130385

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>>60133080
>he doesn't have a scuba dude polo
Sad!

>>60133151
stretch to a SARB033, or go Orient Ray/Union/Bambino/Mako, whichever you like best

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tfw you might actually be able to design your own movement :3

>>60133151
SARB is the default answer here.

But it's a terrible choice, the correct answer is to buy a dozen cheap Casios.

>>60133194
I am actually pretty sad now

>>60133214
>>60133226
Just checked that out.. I really like the look of it but it seems dressy AF.
Not sure how it'd look in jeans/T-shirt.
Also I might scratch the case a lot, which I'd be worried about

>>60131611
Right side is supposed to be flipped twice in the answer.

>>60133194
fuggg thats cool
if i could still dive i would get

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>>60133151
>I've got £250 to spend on a watch (could stretch). I'll be starting university this September so I want it to be relatively casual and versatile with lots of different clothes.
>>60133270
>But it's a terrible choice, the correct answer is to buy a dozen cheap Casios.

not sure if this guy is meming but that's what i did, more fun to have a nice variety than to pretend some $250 shitbox watch is more than it really is. nobody at uni cares about your watch btw

>>60133399
I know nobody cares. I care though.

Now I don't know whether to spend my money on a nice watch or this... or no watch at all.

What is wrong with me?

>>60133655
stop overthinking it
250 is not going to get you a "nice" watch, it's going to get you something marginally nicer than a cheap watch but still unimpressive to watch nerds

again, stop overthinking it
buy something you like, start cheap, see how you like it, go from there. you do not need to order what you perceive to be a nice watch for your first watch, even if you can afford it

go slow m8

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>>60126062
>>60126004
Da

Saw some numale with a daniel wellington in a starbucks. I scoffed at him to let him know I had superior tastes.

>>60129459
The real problem is that high end cars these days have auto gearboxes with a million handhold features and those shitty paddle shifters, letting any idiot drive them.

I wanna see a modern rich arab boi drive a testarossa or F40.

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>>60133655
What about SKX007?

Its pretty much 250 Bucks IIRC

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Is the Lord Marvel worth buying for $400? How accurate is the movement?

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TIMEX Linear Chronograph

Pick this one up for $50 on sale 2 weeks ago

I want a cheap digital watch to time my runs. Does it even matter what I pick?

>>60134019

If it's not a Casio / G shock it doesn't matter.

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Lol, fucking pay $500 for WATCHES without bluetooth and sleep traking? Are you guys kidding?

>>60134233
Counter-intuitively, Dumb-watches require more skill to create than smart watches

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>>60134260
Lol, UV lithography CPU + 2.4Ghz radio + tons of software vs quartz?

>>60133728

F R A N K E N
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>hornback croc strap
is this tacky?

>>60126167
>>60131565
Tisell

>>60126167
>>60133194
>fixed gmt hand
into the garbage it goes

>>60134494
Almost all the pics on GIS with it on watches are either on panerais, royal oak offshores, or invictas. Take that as you will.

>>60134902
it being hornback specifically or just these straps in general?

>>60135102
Specifically hornback croc straps seem to appear exclusively on those three watches.

>>60135117
understood...

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Is the precisionist worth the $500-$600CAD? Or should I just get one of their cheaper chronos or some shit? They basically look the same

>>60135152
>overbusy dad watch

Absolutely disgusting.

>>60135163
>dad watch
>hipster watch
>nigger thug watch
>autistic rainman terrorist watch
>smart watch

What else is there that is affordable, doesnt make me look like a pretentious tryhard but doesn't make me look like a poorfag either?

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>>60135205
If you want that specific movement, the accutrons look fine.

>>60135205
rolex milgauss

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>>60134564
>>60131257

Fuck me, thank you so much. I love their type B pilot. Same price as the Orient, too. I just have to way til they restock at the end of May.

43mm diameter, 50.5mm lug to lug, is that too big for around a 6.75-7 in wrist?

>>60134438
it's still a racketa movement, so idgaf

>>60135234
not bad, I like your pick related although Im not a huge fan of leather straps

>>60135235
Those are like $7k, and as much as I like to lie on the internet there's no way I could reasonably afford that at this time

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>>60135271
There's the accutron astronaut remake if you want a bracelet. It's missing the GMT hand like the original though.

>>60135271
sorry, then you are a poorfag

>>60130487
I do see your point on the lack of a brand identity for VC, I'm not sure I would identify a unifying aesthetic to PPs either.

I would think that the freedom VC has had to explore grand complications would seem to indicate that Richemont at least understands well enough that VC has to be given the funding and freedom to re-establish its bonafides at the highest levels of hatue horlogerie, the issue to me seems to be more of a struggle to translate the aesthetics of those halo watches into the rest of their line-up

All of that being said, by personal preference I would take JLC over PP, VC or ALS any day of the week.

>>60133215
Now this I am interested in hearing more about!

>>60133929
Depends on the condition and dial type. $400 for a good condition linen dial 5740C is a steal at this point, for a non-linen dial 5740C in a very good condition its fair.

The movement is quite robust, well designed, reliable and accurate but be aware that it does not hack.

>>60135205
What's your budget and what styles of watch do you like?

>>60133215
I could design an amazing movement with mems and silicon technologies.

naturally I don't have the means to produce it.

>>60135238
>43mm diameter, 50.5mm lug to lug, is that too big for around a 6.75-7 in wrist?
It's going to look big, but smaller than a BP anyway

>>60134313
Ironically, it's actually the mechanical watches that are much more difficult to make well than a smart watch, though thermocompensated high end quartz movements aren't as easy to make as a smartwatch either.

>>60136041
You could always try and convince Grand Seiko to make it, as they actually have the equipment to do so. Probably won't work due to their conservatism, but still.

>>60135238
oh honey that's going to look like a volkswagon bug attached to your wrist

we don't go over 40mm with 6" wrists (34-38 should be the target)

>>60136065
sadly Seiko refuses to use silicon parts, and those japper whores would probably just steal the design

>>60136100
I'm well aware, hence the joke. Honestly, given what I know of Daini Seikosha's design culture, I'm pretty surprised they became the first watchmaker to adopt a MEMS approach to making balance wheels.

Daini Seikosha always tended to stodgy traditionalism in its design choices, and just used gratuitous amounts of inspection, finishing and adjustment labour to get the desired results.

I'm actually quite concerned that Grand Seiko will end up wasting the huge technological head-start they have over everyone else in the application of MEMS manufacturing methods to movements due to that culture of conservatism in design.

>>60136163
to be sure

although it could be a nod at things to come (their application of mems technology).

>>60133399

The only time anyone noticed my watch at University was a purple Nixon rubber player when I didn't know anything about watches.

>>60136044
>>60136088

Okay. What if I said my wrist is actually 7.375 in? Because that's what it actually is. What I said previously was a rough approximation. I just used a tape measure.

>>60133399

W2C that Casio?

>>60128327
what band m8? I want to get one too for my Orient

>>60136446
I dunno desu, you'd have to post a photo with the watch on your wrist.

you'll probably be okay

>>60136446

yes, it will probably be fine. your wrist is dead average in size and a 42-43mm diver will look completely normal.

>>60136507
Mdv106

>>60132989
>peak of commie aesthetics
yeah, their 24h analog watches were. that one's probably their only cool 12h one.

>>60136546

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HNS-20MM-Grey-Blue-Perlon-Tropic-Braided-Watch-Strap-With-Brushed-Buckle-/322472107919?hash=item4b14d5df8f:g:ox4AAOSw-W5Uzm5f

Nato strap co. Pretty much the same as any other perlon out there. Would like to try Eulit, but nothing is ever in stock.

>>60136939

And the band?

>>60137017
thanks a lot. I've picked up one for myself, cheers

>>60137054
>And the band?
aliexpress
pretty damn good for $3.50 at the time
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/18-24mm-Replacement-Band-Strap-Stainless-Steel-Watch-Mesh-Bracelet-Strap/32643120577.html

>>60135292
>The useless bezel though.

That's a deal breaker for me.

>>60129378
>tfw it's just reflections because lol no AR coating.

>>60135292
>no tuning fork
baka...

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>>60125278
Is there a cheap version of this watch? I really like the emerald green canvas, stainless steel finish, don't care so much about the band.

I know nothing about watches, first time posting in this thread, this watch really struck me.

Godammit I really love this ad. The watches are no good but the ad is too unreal to be official:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTbl_WOh3_d/

>>60138090
that's not the stock band anyways.

>>60138090
Seiko is the cheap version.

>>60138090
I think there's a vintage Russian version you can get for like $50 on eBay. Hopefully one of the watch geeks ITT knows what I mean.

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>>60129293
Only one I can think of with weeb numerals is the Nomos Toki. Good luck finding one though.

You can find ones both modern and vintage with kanji for the dates. Jap watches will use the elements + sun/moon, as that is how they do days of the week. I'd say look at the lord matic SPECIAL line for vintage, or something like SARY055 for modern.

You can also dig up japanese watches with chinese date wheels, which basically have numbers instead of elements and shit. You can only get those in singapore or some shit though.

>>60133929
How would you even go about getting this serviced?
Spare parts?

Provided you're not in Japan, that is.

>>60135235
rapper watch
fucking dropped

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>modding a 24 hour bezel onto a 12 hour watch
Fuck this triggers me so much. This is like the fifth one I've seen. If you're doing shit purely for looks get a damn Fossil.

>>60135951
>I'm not sure I would identify a unifying aesthetic to PPs either.
Doesn't necessarily have to be a unifying aesthetic, and whatever PP had has been copied from others and by others from them so much that they do feel somehow generic. I can't help but feel the 5196, by virtue of lineage is really the quintessential dress watch.

Nevertheless, they have their Calatrava line. When people (when talking people, I mean people how actually know that there's watches costlier than rolex) think PP, they usually have some vague calatrava pop up in mind.

Nowadays they also have that oh so overplayed nautilus as well that will be familiar with certain demographics. But generally, if you were to ask people what came to mind when they hear the name "Patek Philippe" it will 9/10 be a gold dress watch on a leather strap. It's certainly not a unique thing to them, but it's an association that is cemented. With VC you're got to think a little harder.

>the issue to me seems to be more of a struggle to translate the aesthetics of those halo watches into the rest of their line-up
Yeah, pretty much. We'll see how they go over the next decade.

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>>60136046
So, mechanical watches is simplier and much worse reproducible technology than electronic watch. Are there any use cases for it if you are not retrofag?

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Pick up this Ingersoll Connecticut IN1222 at a pawn shop for $65 dollars..

So what if the movement is Chinese it's a nice watch

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>>60139174
Richemont just shuffled all the CEO's of all its top watch brands earlier this year, or maybe late last year, likely in response to slow sales. The only richemont company that was spared the reshuffle was the Lange manager, implying that they seem to be doing something right in the HQ's eyes (and really, they are IMO).

>>60135951
>All of that being said, by personal preference I would take JLC

JLC's a brand I really want to love; they're too horologically important, now and historically, to not be. However, the same hangups for me as with VC (and ALS):
Owned by Richemont; horrible service.

I have friends with JLC's (and IWC's) and their experiences when dealing with repairs makes me very nervous about picking up shit I would really want, like pic related, unless I could put it in for service in Switzerland direct, but I don't find myself in that part of the world very often anymore. Only way seems to be to take it direct to ensure minimal dumbfuckery.

Bro in law ended up having to take his shitty IWC for service in Shaffhausen in person before a proper job could be done.

There's too much repair nonsense going on that a complicated watch, especially from this group, gives me great pause.

In my country, Rolex and PP have superb service centres. Richemont group has a long way before they're well regarded enough to even think about drawing away customers from those two.

>>60139197
If you're under constant threats of EMP's following a nuclear blast, yeah.
Otherwise, it's just up to preference.

>>60139237
Speaking of the real possibility of a nuclear blast or solar flare occuring in the future, how viable is the 'cardboard box lined with aluminum foil' protection for my smaller electronic devices?

>>60136041
i have actually thought about this. there are companies that do DRIE on request, even specifically for watchmaking.
its probably gonna cost a lot though.

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>>60139237
At least the watch on your smoldering remains still runs!

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>>60133151
SKX007/009 and a Strapcode super oyster bracelet. Bezel insert swap is optional.

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>>60138090
Not that I know of. As far as watches go the SARB017 isn't very expensive. Also the strap is an aftermarket one. The stock is a brown "alligator" one.

>>60139223
That watch is both boring and interesting at the same time somehow..

>>60139174
>When people think PP, they usually have some vague calatrava pop up in mind.
I think of the chrono perpetuals

>>60128685
If it's plexiglass, buy a tube of Polywatch; works brilliantly on light scratches.

>>60128746
Have you never seen a watch before?

Are there quality watches for <$100? Preferably mechanical.

The prices are fucking ridiculous. All these things do is tell the time, for the most part.

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>>60139989
Seiko 5 and Jsprings watches.

And a lot of chinese and india ones of even more questionable value.

http://www.creationwatches.com/products/j-springs-watches-371/

http://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-automatic-sports-89/index-1-3a.html

>>60135271
It takes 30 seconds to change straps on a watch

>>60139757
OWL PENIS
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>>60140424
I don't get it..

>>60140440
Hour hand looks like an Owl Penis (apparently)

>>60140453
What?! I hope you're trolling friendo.

>>60140440
It's because it's called the Alpinist, which sounds vaguely like 'owl penis'.

>>60140453
its because its called al penis t

baka clueless newfag

>>60140440
Hands look like used condoms.

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>>60140469
Ah. Pretty juvenile insult I guess

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>>60140596

>>60139223
That is extremely disappointing to hear, and, looking into the horror stories about Richemont Group official service centers is actually quite enough to put me off ever even considering a JLC.

Is there really any limit to how short sighted and greedy these companies can be? Can they not make enough money without tarnishing their reputations bilking their customers for obviously unnecessary parts and repairs at exorbitant prices, like some shady local mechanic?

>>60139197
>Is there any use case for vintage sports cars since electric golf carts and 2006 Toyota Corollas exist?
This is you.

>>60141050
>a shitty fucking 6R15 is like a vintage ferrari
This is what /g/ ACTUALLY believes

>>60141061
>Alfa Romeo GTV 2.0s never existed and aren't vintage sports cars because they aren't Ferraris
>Neither did original Mini Cooper's
>In fact, there were never any affordable vintage sports cars at all, either in period, nor are any still covered today.
This is you.

>>60141082
*Coveted

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Last night I was depressed and ordered a bunch of straps. $80 worth.

Including a short velcro strap made to Apollo program era NASA specifications, because I guess I'm going into fucking space or something.

Too late to cancel the orders.

>>60141089
>falling for the strap meme

I bet you ordered NATO(tm) referred by The Urban Gentry(tm) click on the link for a referral

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>>60129293
I would suggest a cheap Seiko with a day dial in kanji: 日曜日、月曜日、火曜日... pic realted
>>60131308
good suggestion
>>60138541
terrible suggestion

>>60141139

I've never watched his videos. I simply spent about 2 hours surfing the web for watch straps and bought the ones I apparently need in my life.

>>60127015
>Uses IIII as the Roman Numeral for 4
Get off of my fucking planet this instant.

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>>60141082
>a shitty fucking 6R15 is like a vintage Alfa

>>60141239

People ITT seem to think bad Roman grammar is acceptable.

I almost want to report them to the cohortes urbanae to be quite honest familia.

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>>60141239
>>60141315
>hurr durr

>>60141341

>he proudly uses scripture that was written in a structure built for literal fucking plebs as evidence

Walk right in, to the lion cages. Where you belong.

>>60141374
The romans were clearly not against using IIII for 4, is the point.

>>60128936
>a less successful version than Donald Trump
Deep, deep marks on the bracelet suggests he at least fought bravely.

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>>60129456
If they can take Evangelion as inspiration I would look forward to see what they could do with, say, YKK. Pic. related.

>tfw atheists have ruined pocket watches

>>60130975
To get a trademark for a brand you need to file and get an application granted. Most likely "Quartz" will be rejected since it is descriptive,

Better then to get design protection for the face of your watch design.

>>60141039
Yup.
All you have to do is trawl the usual suspect forums for JLC (pretty much every Richemont brand) routine service or QC and subsequent warranty service issues to not get put off.

Sure, every fuck brand has bad stories, but it really seems as if it's not as bad as the sorts of things you hear when people bitch about panerai and JLC for example.

Go to the WUS JLC forum and you'll find at least 5 threads on the first page about service or QC issues at any given time.

I was skimming the forums last week when I stumbled upon an older thread
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?297824-Opinions-please-more-poor-Richemont-service-(JLC)
where one guy pretty much hit the nail on the head: JLC were treating their customer with utter fucking contempt. Quick to want to sell new shit, but oh if you have any issues with the stuff you've already bought, sorry, not a priority.

Say what you want about Rolex service fuckery, but they have that shit pretty much down pat: have a new, not-rare, not special snowfrake rolex? Take it to the RSC to be sure; don't have to worry with certified independents, the official SC will handle that shit fine. And you can find one in pretty much any place in the world worth actually being in (and I'm sure there are some RSC's in fucking subsaharan africa ffs).

Richierich group? ONE FUCKING WATCHMAKER handles all their brands, at least in some regions, causing backlog, corner cutting and other shenanigans.

Like I keep saying, I want to like this stuff, and I have the means to make the choice, but it's made harder by the fact that I don't want the potential headache and would rather not be treated with such contempt, as so many others have been (if it is allowed to happen to others, it can happen to me).

>>60139768
>That watch is both boring and interesting at the same time somehow..
Kinda why I like it.
The plain, non-moonphase model is boring as fuck; the addition of the moonphase makes an otherwise dull watch type (traditional dresswatch) at little more interesting and enticing and would make it more likely that I would wear it when not in a suit.

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>>60141050
So its only for retrofags, as I said.

>>60141709
>tfw would like a Rolex because of their service rep, but all their modern models are gaudy
>tfw not kowledgeable enough to get a vintage sub or explorer

>>60141709
>but they have that shit pretty much down pat
You mean (until a few years ago) literally STEALING your property if you had the gall to send it across international borders?

Seeing what kinds of fuckery watch companies will stoop to basically put me off watch collecting, I was once like you guys until I ended up with a vintage Rolex and got deep into the forums and learned more. What a wake up call that was. I only buy mall watches now. I got rid of the Rolex. Nobody gives a shit about this stuff anyway other than spergs.

>>60141797
ask on WUS, there are far more Rolex owners and traders there than there will be here, so you're bound to find someone who can tell you if a watch you're going to pull the trigger on is a good buy or if it's something you should avoid at all costs

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I'm facing a life changing dilemma. Should I buy a Rolex or get hair implants to fix my receding hairline that's fucking up my self esteem and identity.

>>60141968
You should gain satisfaction and meaning from meaningful things.
Not shiny trinkets and vanity.

>>60141968
Neither, move to Southeast Asia and obtain a ladyboy wife

>>60141968
Don't get a watch; god hates you enough to make you bald so you already know what time it is.

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>>60141968

The fact that you need a watch or hair to have high self esteem is SAD!

>>60141968
You should get neither.

Get your self esteem into order first.

Come back once you realize that your self esteem is not dependent on your hair, your watch or both of these things.

Go outside, do something valuable.

>>60141089
did you get that stretchy MN strap too?

>>60141968
>get hair implants
Christ, no. Buzz or shave your head and move the fuck on

>>60136041
Time for MEMS pasta: https://pastebin.com/Xk2BnKtf

>>60141271
>Totally ignoring the Mini Cooper I also mentioned
>People don't also like other affordable vintage cars like Datsuns
>Or MG Midgets
>B-but only rich people are allowed to have hobbies though!
This is you.

>>60144410
>affordable vintage cars like Datsuns
Despite being a shitter, a 240z can get you a couple of pateks

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>Rolex Explorer II
>Tailored sport coat by Joseph Abboud™
>Walmart Select™ white dress shirt

Does life get any sweeter?

>>60145099
what's the point of the explorer ii when the gmt master exists?

>>60144939
There were other Datsun models you know. Anyway my point was that there are plenty of affordable vintage cars that people are into, and, by analogy, that one doesn't have to spend lots of money to be I to mechanical watches.

>>60145144
>White lacquer dial
>Significantly cheaper price of entry
>Tapered profile makes it easier to fit inside of a tight cuff when you're wearing a suit
>Fixed steel bezel much more durable than the rotating ones
>Can complete a simple two piece collection by getting an Explorer I as well

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My SNK809 and FW91 was stolen and I need a new watch, should I go for that SKS539 that's on assdrop right now? My other options are some vostok, timex weekender or expedition or casio AE-1200WHD.

>>60145144
What's the point of the gmt when the explorer ii exists?

>>60145145
Just pulling your leg. It's sad that people judge others hobbies not by the content, but by the cost.

>>60141239
most watches do this you fucking idiot
am i being trolled?

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tacky?

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>>60145487
Must be a Homos/fashion brand baby. Then again I do own an IV Raketa, and most roman Raketas before the mid 80's had IV.

>>60145581
Is it possible to shine up the strap on the right to make it look like the strap on the left?

>>60145367
>What's the point of the gmt when the explorer ii exists?
it has a rotating bezel

>>60145569
>That ghastly Movado
Not even in a parallel taste free universe.

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>>60145696
how bout dis

>>60145866
>>60145866

>>60141968
>I'm facing a life changing dilemma.
Mid life crisis, anon? This guy gets it: >>60142136

Instead save up some more, gear up your style and insted buy a gentleman's watch such as PP or JLC. And remember Yul Brynner.

>>60145617
These are not factory straps, I got them from the stock we sell in the store. These are brand new, I deliberately chose a less glossy croc-print for the Slava, I think it looks better.

t. watch repair anon.