/spg/ - Smartphone General

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If you bought a Nokia E70 on ebay, could it work with a modern SIM card?

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Asking again here:

So is the cheapest 'good' android phone on the market in the west the Zenfone 3? I seem to be able to buy on Amazon for roughly £250/$320.

Is there cheaper out there without any more of a drop in quality?

>>60101353
depends on whether your carrier still supports 2G

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Who /Moto Z Play/ here?

Moto Mods are the future.

is the g6 the new flagship?
it only has 4cores on the cpu, won't it slow down faster than an 8core cpu phone?
I'm getting a new phone tomorrow
can't decide

>>60101353
Even a phone from 1999 would work with any sim card. It is the GSM band support that you need to look for.

>>60101356
>So is the cheapest 'good' android phone on the market in the west the Zenfone 3?
No.
Zuk Z2
Honor 6X
ZTE Blade V8 Pro
Honor 8

all are better.

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>>60101410
>it only has 4cores on the cpu, won't it slow down faster than an 8core cpu phone?
it doesn't work that way. Pic related is for desktop CPUs but it's basically the same for mobile CPUs. You can't just compare the number of cores, a dual core CPU can be more powerful than an octacore one if the individual cores are more powerful.

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What phone is this?

>>60101401
how hyped are you for this?
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keyboard-mod-a-physical-keyboard-for-the-moto-z#/

>>60101594
Meizu MX6

>>60101356
Moto G5 comes with close to stock Nougat and the plus version has the same CPU, the Snapdragon 625, at a lower price than the Zenfone 3 but it doesn't seem like it's available in Britbongland yet, at least not on Amazon.co.uk.

>>60101619
Never heard of them before, thanks!

>>60101633
>it doesn't seem like it's available in Britbongland yet, at least not on Amazon.co.uk.
it's exclusively sold by Carphone Warehouse in the UK, and they only sell the 2GB ram version, which is pretty ridiculous when the regular G5 is available with 3GB RAM.

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How do I make the S8 hide that button bar while running full screen apps like Chrome?

>>60101731
Eh, I'd probably get the regular Moto G5 with 3GB RAM over the Zenfone anyways, because the Zenfone has such a retarded skin which will probably slow down the performance. If you only need a phone that's good enough then I'd just grab the cheapest one available that isn't total ass like the Moto G5 and wait and see if there's any phones with killer specs for the price out in a year or so, instead of buying a subpar phone now and keeping it for longer.

>>60101743
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-hide-navigation-bar-status-bar-app-t3509747

>>60102007
You realise people can use your IMEI to report their phone stolen and get yours blacklisted?

>People who prioritize battery life over everything else
Why? If you need to watch anime for 12 hours a day then just get a tablet or laptop which saves battery on your phone. Phones nowadays charge from 0-100 in less than an hour, what do you NEETs do where you need your phone to last for a week without having access to a wall socket?

>>60102041
why does technology have to be so complicated.

Any recommendations on something newish, cheap with good rom support? I'm thinking a Nexus 5x or a 6P.

Not many requirements other than good battery life and as modern as possible, but I want it to last a few years with custom rom support

>>60102193
OP3T.

>>60102210
Bit too pricey I'm afraid. How does it compare to a nexus 5x or 6p? I'm looking at about £200-250 for a 6p.

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>>60102007
nice IMEI my friend

>>60102243
They are both shit.
5X is bootlooping, and 6P has a ton of hardware problem too. get a Moto G5/G5+ if you wanna experiment with roms on the cheap.

>>60102283
What are the hardware problems like on the 6p?
Not looking to experiment with roms, I just want to keep my phone up to date when new versions of android come out, would probably just stick to lineage. I did look at the moto g5+ but if anything it's a downgrade to my galaxy alpha in some respects

>>60102307
https://androidcommunity.com/google-says-nexus-6ps-bootlooping-issue-is-a-hardware-problem-20161227/

http://www.androidauthority.com/nougat-battery-issues-nexus-6p-737241/

Bootloops and battery shutdowns. Also they both only get Android O and that's it.

>>60101835
>>60101633
As someone who owned the original Moto G , I can't help but shake the feeling that the newest ones are just sort of not amazing for the price. The quality of the 16GB version I bought was way better than you would expect for $200. You got ambient light sensors, a 720p screen, noise cancellation, completely stock Android and best of all, years of OS and security updates. The new ones don't seem to offer anything substantially better than the competition. I think it's a result of Lenovo resting on the brand's laurels; not necessarily making it worse, but failing to respond when the competition gets better.

When the original Moto G was around, you had to spend a lot more money to beat it. By the time I was looking at a G4, the Nexus 5X was not substantially pricier and you got a much better phone, so needless to say that is what I chose.

>>60102307
>keep my phone up to date
>stick to lineage
lineage can't even keep nexus/pixels up to date as they don't ship updated firmwares and vendor images. so their security patch level is always a lie.
they only android devices that get actual updates are still supported stock nexus/pixel devices.

>>60102054
Many of us are not NEETs, sorry to burst your bubble.

I have a Blackberry Leap. Cheap phone with low end specs but god damn, being able to consistently go two days between charges with moderate use is so fucking nice. Meanwhile my girlfriend's Nexus 6P is lucky to make it through the day. Helps when you have an OS that prioritizes power management and (for better or worse) doesn't have cancerous apps eating up your battery.

>>60102469
Blackberry has been pretty good about updating their shit, too.

>>60102266
Oooohhh yeah I'm gonna have some fun with this tonight.

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Sorry for this literal retard question, how many varieties of OP3T are there? I can get it for £330($425) new, but I'm wondering if there's another version (Pro and deluxe and all this shit) and if they have another product code to them to identify them? I've googled it, but I must be dyslexic because I can't get a straight answer

Also, would you guys recommend the OP3T over the regular S7 but refurbished, if they were at the same price?

Thanks bros.

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Lenovo P2, Yes or No?

I really need something for £200 with great battery, consistent performance and a decent screen.

Looking to replace my Galaxy S5.

>>60102660
How many times are you going to ask this same question?

>>60102469
What would you recommend for keeping an old phone as up to date as possible with custom roms?

>>60102624
There's only one version but it comes with different bands for different regions. do don't buy the Chinese version from Aliexpress because it won't working the U.S. just order straight form oneplus.

Is Galaxy Note 8 happening? or did the Note 7 kill that line?

>>60102794
Yes, it's confirmed to be coming late 2017

>>60101383
E70 is also UMTS (3G) band 2100 Mhz. It wont be a problem in Europe

You'll need a nano/microSIM to miniSIM adapter

>>60102794

Well that complicates things.

I was going to buy an S8+ tomorrow because my phone has a cracked screen, but now I dunno. Note 8 is bound to be good.

>>60102858

Meant to reply to >>60102820

>>60101743
The real question is why aren't you using clover instead.

>>60102054
Not a neet, actually a business student.

Look man i need my phone to check stocks, emails, messages, music, snapchating my girlfriend among other shit. I need a phone thats reliable and that can hold me throught the day. Sadly i am carrying a battery box with me because my iphone 6s is the worst piece of shit when it comes to battey but it runs apps fast and is realible (besides the battery)

>>60102858
Just get a budget phone to hold you over for half a year?

>>60102787
Thanks mate, is there any way to know what band I'm buying on the item info page? Or am I forced to order direct from oneplus? I'm in London

>>60102243
5X is probably more than a OP3 just because they don't make em anymore.

Any chance I could get a phone recommendation in the budget of <$50? I just switched to Consumer Cellular (with an AT&T SIM) but my S4 only supports CDMA. I tried a Blu Jenny TV from Amazon, but I guess it doesn't work due to AT&T no longer supporting 2G.

Really, I just want a stupid cheap feature phone for texting and phone calls, with long battery life. I'll still use my S4 for everything else via WiFi.

I realize I should probably be searching local Craigslist ads, but those are mostly just iPhones and other totally-not-stolen devices.

I'd think that as old as feature phones are, there should at least be one go-to budget oriented phone made to work on modern netwroks

>>60103122
http://willmyphonework.net/

does anyone know which ROMs don't suck ass for the le max 2? These fucking pajeets on xda are driving me insane

>>60103242
Official LineageOS
https://download.lineageos.org/x2

http://www.leeco.re/forum/225-aosp-cm-rr-mokee/

Does anyone know if your s8, when you buy it off samshit's site, is filled with bloatware from either Samsung or the phone carrier?

>>60103280
i'd do that but
>https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/lineageos-official-builds-t3563353/page18

>25th April 2017, 07:14 AM
>I just ran into a bug that may be worth looking into...

>The handset reboots when you try to call 911. I did it twice yesterday and both times it just rebooted the device when I tried to place the call.

>Build: nightly 4-22

>>60103236
Thanks, so basically I just have to make sure I buy the global version. appreciate the help

>>60103452
then get mokee
http://www.leeco.re/topic/1662-mokeex820-last-release-0112/

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>>60103481
thanks nigga, im in for a wild ride with this phone

Is this the new /g/ phone?

http://a.co/2OHgfF6

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Should I buy my sister a LeEco Le Max 2 or a Redmi Note 4? Both are international versions.

I have almost finished paying off my Samsung Galaxy s6 and it's my first smartphone. Had it for almost 2 years.
I want a phone around the same size but with a better battery life.

What phone should I get next?

>>60103502
Why would anyone buy this when this is $30 more
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M13TSHR

>>60103736
Neither. get her a Moto G5.

>>60103770

Mi6. Same processor as the Galaxy S8 for much less money

>>60103808
>Why would anyone buy this when this is $30 more

>3Ah
vs
>4Ah

>>60103808
>Why would anyone buy this when this is $30 more

>outdated specs
>outdated version of Android

STOP

>>60103810
No headphone jack, it's DOA.

>>60103828
Still better than the R1 Plus you retard.
No one should buy a Blu phone anyways, they don't ever update.

>>60103770
Zuk Z2.

>>60103883
>Zuk Z2
http://www.trustedreviews.com/lenovo-zuk-z2-review

nahhh

I want a really nice phone that I can make payments on.

>>60103911
then get an S7 you sperg.

>have galaxy S5 and nexus 7 2013 tablet
>getting a substantial upgrade from either is a few hundred

Weird range to be in, they're showing their age now but something a bit older and cheaper isn't much of an upgrade either. Also can't just get a chinkphone since I'm in burgertown.

>>60101596
I would be more hyped if there was a vertical keyboard variant. Especially because then it wouldn't completely cover the camera!

>>60103419
touchwiz is bloatware that comes with all samsung. the carrier bloat is an extra addon

Moto G5 or G5 Plus?

>>60102469
And those are likely to have two year support cycles.

>have lg g4
>like it half the time, but the other half it's laggy and not even usable (most apps stop working or lag terribly when i try to reopen them, sometimes screen stops responding and I have to hit power button)
>have warranty that ends in summer
is it worth bricking it and then paying $300ish to upgrade to a g6 or s7/8?

Would you boys recommend Sony phones over Huwaei? And which phone is best from each brand for under $300?

>>60105025
Yes

>>60105254
>Would you boys recommend Sony phones over Huwaei?
Not really

And which phone is best from each brand for under $300?
Sony: Xperia X
Huawei: Honor 8

Need small phone for smallgirlhands. Sony ZXY whatever compac seems decent but no idea which to choose. New Samsung A3 seems fine but prefer Sony interface.
Opinions of valid choices? Last year's model would seem fine. Looking for mid-range cost.

>>60105426
IPhone SE

>>60105426
Sony X Compact.

>>60105518
iPhone SE a great choice for the problem but the specs are embarrassing. Not even 720p. Much worse selection of apps than Android. Non expandable storage (Android can extend app-installation storage).

>>60101318
replace my 6s with the keyone in a few months when the price inevitably goes down? looks interesting. my 6s occasionally loses signal and doesnt get it back till restart which is my main motivation

carrier is tmobile usa btw

>>60105553
>>60105426
Seems like a real competition
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_compact-7535.php

>>60102525
they haven't. lagging behind major versions.
google should really forbid others to use security patch level as that's only true for nexus/pixel and others have different kernels, firmwares and android "skins".

>>60105739
Good point but no where to buy.

best phone for under $200 that works on t mobile in the us

how is the vibe k6 plus, I have an iphone 5 that I hate and want something more userfriendly, the 4000mAh seems appealing to me

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>implying it'll actually reach 95 hours

Is that 95 hours the phone just on sleep mode and not Berri b used at all?

>>60106764
Being. Fucking swipe, kek. I hate this screen

>>60103452
>The handset reboots when you try to call 911. I did it twice yesterday and both times it just rebooted the device when I tried to place the call.
This would legit scare the shit out of me. Imagine trying to get a hold of someone in an emergency only to have this shit happen? Don't think I can afford to root now.

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Who is the best cell phone carrier in America in /g/s opinion?

>>60105622
>>>60105518 (You)
>Not even 720p.
Like you need it on a 4 inch screen...

>Much worse selection of apps than Android.
Really? Wasn't the app store supposed to be better than Google's play store?

>Non expandable storage (Android can extend app-installation storage).
I'll give you that. I'm very much an Android fella but still think the SE is the best choice for what you're looking for.

>>60106930
Verizon now that it has unlimited data. It throttles at 26gb, just like all the other carriers but it has better coverage, better customer support, and a better cloud. Everything else is far more expensive or really shitty coverage wise.

Do not buy from tmobile.

>>60106930
Verizon has the best network but is also the most expensive.

>>60107312
At&t is 100 for unlimited plus 25 for a new phone.
T-mobile is 70 for unlimited plus 25 for a new phone.
Sprint is 50 for unlimited plus 25 for a new cellphone.
Verizon is 80 for unlimited plus 25 for a new cellphone

Anybody here use the v20? Prolly gonna pick one up tomorrow

>>60107412
I wouldn't risk it m8, i'd be constantly be worried about bootlooping. Just get a note 5 if you want a fancy phablet.

getting Mate 9 today mates

>>60101578
Outdated pic

>>60106597

you’re better off with the moto z play, or the redmi 4 prime if you’re fine with xiaomi

if you must go lenovo, try the vibe p2

>>60101578
It's a bit more complicated than that picture shows in the mobile phone space too.

Mediatek 6750 for example has four A53 1.5GHz cores and four weaker A53 1.0GHz cores. The idea is to let weak cores that use less power do the work most of the time and use the more power-hungry cores do the more demanding work.

Most "8-core" phones are actually like this; they are just two sets of 4-core CPUs for different purposes.

If you can make a CPU-core that can scale down far enough to where it barely uses power that's still able to clock up when needed you're able to make a nice four-code alternative to the typical 8-core mobile CPU.

>>60102054
I prioritize battery life, it's one of the most important factors when I look at a phone. I used to have dumb-phones with a battery that lasted a week or more (before smartphones). That was great in so many ways. I've had several smartphones throughout the years.

If your phone doesn't last a full day of normal usage then it's just not good enough. I've had phones who didn't. But this isn't where the bigger battery is needed. It's those rare occasions where you use maps/GPS for long periods of time or so something else unusual that drains the battery that it's good to have that extra juice so you get through a full day anyway.

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Huh, so I found out my s8+ natively detected my ps3 controller when I plugged it into it with the USB to USB-C adaptor inside the box it came in, enjoying the hell out of it with emulators and sonic now that I found this out

>>60106930
After doing a carrier switch test with a friend when everyone reintroduced unlimited in February, our final stop was Verizon (due to it being most expensive) after trying ATT, sprint and Tmobile for a month each and we'll never go back to them.

Okay /g/
I need a phone with
Good multimedia (screen, speakers)
Decent processor
Good battery and quick charging
Finger scan
Likely to get future android updates
Under 300
Is there anything like that?

Pls help

Upgrading from 25$ a month talk and text to 50$ a month talk/text/data with metropcs and they want to charge me 55$. Not a big deal, only 5 bucks, anyone know what the deal is though? As far as I can tell I'm not signed up for any additional features, is there a fee to switch services maybe?

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my zenfone 2 laser is really just about had it now since it has been run over by a car and has warped headphone and power jacks, Im in need of a replacement but I figure I should get something better... Wat is good under 400 burger bucks?

>>60101743
Get clover

All in 1 gestures also have an ' immersion mode' that hide the soft keys and notification tray. It also adds gesture features like holding down the back key for brightness slider etc.

All of this and you don't need root.

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e75 is best smartphone

Give me the most expensive highest spec phone available right now.

I have a samshit note edge, returned the note7 before it exploded.

Just got the s8+ today
Normie tier but sexy and lovely to use tbqh
>based processor and 4gb ram
My laptop is useless basically now until I upgrade it

>>60108603
Goddamn I love these slider phones.

>>60108607
Note edge is garbo, I ditched mine today
Probs the s8, g6, or pixel xl
S8 processor is best, pixel is non expandable storage but I believe best cam
G6 is worse than s8 in most ways except a bigger battery. Just buy a Samsung flagship phone and rooting will be ezpz as will accessories
Also is type c is based

Whats a good (used) android for around $50?

>>60108667
One m7

I'm looking to get a OnePlus 3T. Will it work on Total Wireless? I've seen a lot of conflicting statements about whether or not it will

Whats the phone with the best RGB accuracy + manual camera? Ive been looking for one for a while now. My G4's color gamut is fun to look at but its inhumanly overblown with reds and blues.

>>60103493
Is the Le Max 2 good enough for $190 compared to the Zuk Z2?

My S4 is on it's last legs and I need a phone badly what is a good temporary phone to wait out either the 1+5/Note 8/Pixel 2 XL

I do have an upgrade but I'd rather stay off contract.

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30 years old. Have never had a smartphone.

> Live in eastern USA
>Fall for verizon meme
>77 bucks a month for 2 gigs of data (ult talk/text)
>We both mostly use snapchat or kik, less than 100 minutes of talk used.

Can anybody suggest a decent carrier that I can take my phones to? Both are paid off.

Gf has an lg g4, I have an older htc desire that I want to replac

Currently considering Ting so I can just pay for what I use.

>>60108924

Note 8 is not coming out for a while, Samsung is selling the Note 7R (Refurbished) to select markets and South Korea to recoup losses.

>>60101488
Thanks for the recommendation, the blade v8 has everything I've been looking for in a budget phone

>>60108987
Hmm 1+3T has dual sims could I necessarily get a G-FI sim for data and continue using my verizon for text and calls?

So my Priv arrived today, and I'm pretty damn pleased with my purchase. Nice camera, nice near-stock Android, nice device, even nice box. It does however get pretty damn toasty under heavy load though, and I need to get myself a new nano-SIM for it tomorrow.

The keyboard is super satisfying, though I'm still getting used to it as it's actually touch sensitive to gestures.

Surprisingly, some of the builtin software that it comes with is actually pretty slick too. Hub is a damn good email client, the productivity tab is a lot more useful than I expected, and DTEK is like a shittier Privacy Guard (one of my favourite CM features tho) but still werks. However, it is a shame I can't fully uninstall the generic Google bloat, but oh well.

I'd just like to give thanks to whichever anon told me about the sale a few days ago over here >>60072453, you're a pretty swell guy.

should i buy the ZTE Axon 7?

>>60109259
Yes

>>60104561
How much is the difference in price for you?
Over here (NL) its almost 90 euros... if it was like 50 it would definitely be worth it but 90?

should i just give up and get a s8 or what.

Pixel is nice but old looking design
iphone 7 is meh
lg g6 isn't nice imo
rest of the flagships are gay

S8 seems like the only decent flagship, unless op5 or similar is going to be good (which it won't)

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giv new Nokias now

Lenovo k6 or Huawei p8 lite?

What are some good quality small phones? around 4,5 inches display

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Recently I can no longer play youtube in the background while I do other shit on my phone. I found out youtube locked the feature behind a paywall called youtube red. I am currently mad as fuck.

>>60102911
I do more than just use 4chan,yoh know. I want to have this shit hidable in favor of actually using the whole screen on all my apps, too.

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I always have this when I'm not connected to wireless
What does it mean?
LTE works

>>60110183
are you on android 7?

if so that triggered me so much i reverted to 6.

>>60110183
It could be a bug in the (custom) rom you're using

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I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 and I deleted half the system apps, now the phone runs with only minor lag. Is there a reason to upgrade?

Pic Related (my phone)

>>60110432
Looks fine to me

>>60110432
Just get a xiaomi for cheap. You'll have a better display, modern software and better battery life than the s3.

>typing message on my phone
>suddenly T-Mobile software update pops up
>accidentally hit "update now"
God, I fucking this shit. Has anyone had problems with battery/lag on their Galaxy S7 on Nougat?

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How much data do you use a month, /g/?

>>60107765
Have you tried screen mirroring at the same time? Playing anything but chess and pool on a small screen is cancer

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>>60110598

>>60109993
use firefox for that

>>60110459
Have you tried a factory reset? Updating from one android version to another seems to often mess things up.

>>60107300
>>60107300
>throttles at 26gb
You mean 5gb unless that's changed in the last couple of years with cell carriers

>>60110458
are xiaomi's actually good? I am looking at either redmi note 4x or mi 5, i don't want a mi6 because i use the 3.5mm jack a lot, also i would like the note 5 ebcause note4x has no quick charge, same with mi 5.

which phone would you recommend for the best experience? i don't have a set budget, i just dont want to pay $1000 for a s8 when I won't use it to its maximum potential (i only text and look through instagram, light browsing, youtube, etc)

>>60110598
I use about 400mb.

>>60101318
Is Freetel Kiwami a valid choice?

>>60110598
About 800-1000 from my 1,5gb plan

It's mostly Spotify and 4Chan tho

>>60109952
huawei p8 lite 2017

>>60109259
I like mine. Sold my v20 that I got from a t mobile deal and bought the Axon. Only significant con is the lack of lighting on the buttons. Thankfully you can install a custom ROM which allows you to use software buttons when it's dark.

Speakers are excellent, I listen to podcasts while cooking and it's very clear and loud.

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Should I get a Redmi Note 4X? It's cheap (240 AUD) and the pink version is aestheTICC af but it doesn't seem to have official CM builds which is a bit of a worry.

>>60111379
whichever one you decide, let me know.

I'm looking at
>Mi 5s
>Mi 5s pro
>Mi Mix
>Redmi 4x

I don't have a budget I'm just looking for a good feature rich phone for the $ ofc.

What's a good Android note taking app that isn't cloud based? I want local copies for when I'm without signal. I don't mind cloud saving if I can encrypt. I just need something simple for to-do lists, remembering measurements, that sort of shit.

>>60111560
Simple Notepad I think mine's called.

>>60110598
All of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79hBc5S7FbA

>>60101318
I want to spend about 300 dollarydoos and I was looking at the mi5.
Any recommendations?
I'd like it to last a few years at least.

>>60111733
mi5s way better

is the OP3T good or wait for the OP4/5?

>>60107479
just came back with it
love it already
is there a way to turn on the screen by double touching?

>>60111783
not really

anyone getting a oneplus 5?

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My Xperia XA1 arrived today and copying over the cable only goes at something like 140KB/S. In 2017.
Renaming a folder requires about ten seconds to take effect.
It will take eight days for my music library to transfer.
Also no thumbnail previews.

I get that this isn't a flagship but even my HTC Hero from like 2009 copied over USB 30x faster than this.

That Wifi File Transfer app hasn't been updated in years so it doesn't grant SD access.

Wat do?

>>60111783
From what I've seen it doesn't really seem to be worth the extra 80-100 dollarydoos

>>60111916
If it has stereo front speakers then yes.

>preorder GS8 on 4//2
>it arrives on 4/19
>register for $99 bundle by mid afternoon
>confirmed and paid for it on 4/21
>not a single fucking update on shipping time or progress

Samsung cant stop fucking things up. At least the phone is god-tier.

>>60111922
>Wat do?
return it

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>>60112023
I enabled developer mode, and enabled debugging. Seems to be acting normally now.

No idea what difference this made as neither device involved were doing anything at the time and both were restarted in-between attempts before this one.

Can't complain anyhow. Worth a shot for anyone else that gets an XA1 today, or soon.

If my LG v20 breaks, would Sprint let me replace it with an s8?

Best £200 android phone in UK?

>>60112859
>Best
Are you looking for any particular features?
It's the low mid-range, you're going to be making compromises. It's not the same as saying you have 1k to blow.

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>>60109224
That anon was me. The Snapdragon 808 does gets a bit warm but it's nowhere near 810 housefire levels. Other than that everything is great. And yes, dat keyboard. Welcome to Club Blackberry.

>>60110432
I had an S3 and pretty much the only reason why I upgraded was because my mom's old piece of shit LG stopped working. So I just gave her my Samsung and used it as an excuse to buy a Priv, which I had been coveting for a while. I'm much happier with my new phone but the S3 was fine, worked well but I found the battery life was sort of shitty and it got really hot while charging or under heavy load.

why do people still give a shit about motorola, it is now a chink company and lenovo is slowly killing it off because they are triggered by its superior brand

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>when you should have got a Sony something Compact, but you're stuck with this unusably big phone for the next 4 years because you don't like wastage

Who else /handlet/ here?

>>60110598
Less than 1mb a month.

I only use it for checking bus times.

>>60113199
well, what the fuck are you supposed to get then? almost every android phone is a chink shit and google pixel is ridiculously expensive

Should i pull the trigger on a Mi5?? The version with the 3gb ram costs around 215euros which seems a pretty good deal.

Haven't used a smartphone for 4 years but 1 week ago I got the Samsung Galaxy S8 and I both love it and have it. The hardware is undeniably sexy and insanely comfortable, however the software (Android as a whole) is underwhelming. Sure there are lots of apps, I can change the launcher and the icons, I can torrent, mo e the internal files and much more.

But the entire Android experience and interface feels unpolished and hacked together. Anyone know what I mean? For example, when you apply an icon pack, only the icons in the app drawer and the dock change. When you press the defence button all the apps still have their stock icons. Small details like this annoy me.

So here's my question: Would iOS and an iPhone 7 be better for me?

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Is it possible to mod a iPhone or iPod touch to us micro usb instead of lightning?

Dose anyone make kits? I feel like if you could I would of heard about it

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>>60110598
not a lot

>>60113276
Apple is really good when it comes to the small details like that, that's why they became so famous for their software. Honestly sounds to me that you want an iPhone instead.

>>60111560
I don't know if it's the _best_ but I've used Colornote for years. Works perfectly for the most basic note taking.

>>60112148

It would be extremely painful

>>60113246
Yes, just make sure it's the 3gb / 64gb one

>Get S8
>Dis gon be so coo

>dedicated bixby button
>App drawer is fucked, requiring a gesture.
>accidentally bring up app drawer a lot.
>No easy unlock. Have to mash a button + fingerpring / iris scan
>edge screen still just a meme
>can't natively change lock screen
>can't change gestures.
>can't remap Bixby.
>can't remove home gestures.
>Two lock screens, can't customize either.

I just fell for the meme.

>>60113326
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD820AM

>>60113276
go back to rebbit you fucking normie

>>60101318
>>Recommended Chinkphones $80-$300 as of a long time ago
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Chink_shit_general/Phones
Why isn't the redmi 4a under recommended phones <$100?

>>60113510
Because the wiki hasn't been updated for over a year

>>60113276
Android is by core design customizable. You have to download launchers / themes / lock screens / whatever else to get the full experience. That's the strength..

>>60113510
>4A
fuck off pajeet you dirty indian

>>60113560
why can't i rice it 100% without root, it is fucking annoying

>>60113562
recommend a better phone under $100

>>60113576
>Why do I have to move my arm to eat? That's too hard.
>I just want someone to spoonfeed me.

>>60113590
i don't like sharing info with pajeets

>>60113560
Did you read his entire post?

>But the entire Android experience and interface feels unpolished and hacked together. Anyone know what I mean? For example, when you apply an icon pack, only the icons in the app drawer and the dock change. When you press the defence button all the apps still have their stock icons. Small details like this annoy me.

He customized it, but let's be honest here the customization on Android is shit.

>>60113472
Tanks but i dont like the lightning port itself

Also
>2/5 stars

>>60102266
>>60102007
what headphones are these?

>>60113560
>themes
pixel's android version has no theme engine

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It is still possible in this day and age to pump out some life out of a Nexus 7 2012?

It lags like shit on any kind of ROM I try out, and I don't really wanna buy a new tablet to just watch movies on and draw with

Why is Spotify such a battery draining piece of shit?

Many reported this issue for years now.
Cancelled my subscription, uses 400mAh per hour of off-screen playback, this is insane

>>60113739
> Just watching movies and draw

Dunno just use a video app like vlc and for YouTube the mobile website. The app is shit but the site even works on a Galaxy Ace.

Why do flagships of this year are ultimately are so bad?

>iPhone 7
>that protruding back camera
>those bezels
>that lack of 3.5mm jack
>iOS
>that price

>Galaxy S8
>that shitty fingerprint placement
>that "I'm gonna crack at the first two feet drop" design
>that Bixby button
>those edges
>TouchWiz
>that price

>G6
>that outdated CPU
>that "I'm gonna crack at the first two feet drop" design
>that Gorilla Glass 5 on the back, but Gorilla Glass 3 on the screen
>that bootloop
>LG

>>60103452
>tfw have lineage installed on my le max 2 right now
O_O

I just bought my first "modern" smartphone, which apps should I install in it? I only have some basic apps like facebook on it.

>>60113940
What exactly do you want to do with it?

>>60113952
Maybe some games to pass time with and useful apps, I guess.

>>60112967
Great battery life
Reliable & consistent performance
Good build quality
Can be used straight out of the box without any customisation necessary

I understand I won't be getting top of the line models with my budget. So looking for best possible phone that my budget allows. And the above points are key in my decision making process.

>>60113918
i use LG G2 with custom rom no google apps/services/bloat

>battery lasts 3 days on single charge

mby next year i buy g2 again

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>>60113696
>Tanks but i dont like the lightning port itself
way more work to replace internal ports if even possible.
not sure if passive adapter that just maps lighting pins to micro-usb is possible.
not sure if it there's enough space, micro-usb is prolly thicker and longer than lightning.

best bet is Shenzen.

>>60113969
There aren't that many great mobile games
However, you can download emulators to play almost all consoles up to the PSP

For shitposting get Clover (app F-Droid is required, but installing it is very easy)

You can also get NewPipe from F-Droid, a YouTube app with background playback and downloading features

Phonograph is a great music player if you're into listening to music on your phone

>>60114045
Thanks, I'll look into them.

>>60113199
What is actually wrong with Lenovo and their motorola phones?

Is it the hardware or software that people hate?

>>60113940
for iPhone:
https://appadvice.com/collections

Someone talk me out of the OP3T, trash it so I look for alternatives.

>iOS
>Everything follows the same nice theme

>Android
>Clusterfuck of apps that try to follow Material guidelines but fuck it up

>>60114113
Thanks, it's not an iPhone though.

Are there any good rhythm games?

>>60113469
just a "Samsung Experience"

I need a decent, rootable phone that works on Verizon. It also needs to be available right now since my last phone bricked itself.

The options I am aware of are:

>Google Pixel
Potentially unlimited wait time to buy one from Google, but buying from anywhere else gives you locked-down garbage.

>HTC 10
A literal housefire.

>LG G5/G6
lmao bootloops

>Moto G5 Plus
Rumor has it this phone is slow as molasses in January.

Are there any other options out there?

>>60102363
happy to see I'm not the only one, the moto g line went to shit with lenovo, maybe the zuk line will take it's place in the future

>>60114392
LG G3/G4 if you dont mind an older phone

>>60114523

>Enjoy LG's Bootloops Cereal. Part of a balanced breakfast.

>>60101318
Is there anything I can do to make a shitty phone DAC more bearable? Any good EQ programs or something similar?

>>60114523
The reason I'm in this situation is because my last phone was a G4. I'm not dealing with that bullshit again.

>>60114392
Rumors are wrong bud, but what do you mean by slow? Everyday checking emails, texts, videos there's no issue the SD625 is still a good chip

>>60111733
You’re not going to find a Mi5 in black that cheap anymore. And you’ll get a hideous bezel if you buy in any other color.

>>60113246
see
>>60115093
The bezel is pretty bad, just Google mi5 white bezel

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>>60113276
>the defence button
Can someone explain

Best budget phone (sub $250) that supports root and SD cards?
Someone posted about the ZTE Blade V8 but the bootloader is locked so no root ;_;

Bonus points for supporting 5GHz wireless and having a decent camera

Just picked up an S7 edge for the cheap. What's the generally best accepted theme design tool, or am I better off using the theme store?

>>60115323
Maybe all apps, or the Recents view? Possibly something like Samsung Knox that isolates apps?

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I have the possibility of getting either a Lenovo P2 or a Huawei P10 for the same price. These are the only options, and I need to decide quickly.
Lenovo P2:
+Huge battery (important for me)
+AMOLED Screen
+All right performance
+Decent Camera
-A bit too big
-Heavy
-1GB LTE,100 minutes of phone calls, 100 SMS per month
-Only available in a couple of weeks where i live
Huawei P10:
+Very good performance
+Good battery life
+Great camera
+Slim and light
+1GB LTE, unlimited 3G, unlimited SMS/phone calls
-Not as good battery life
-Not AMOLED display
I'm leaning towards the P10 but the battery is pretty important for me and my plan was to get the P2 until recently. Which phone should I choose?

>>60113993
I've only had my XA1 for like a day, got it from clove.co.uk for £230

The cam's great, battery drains slower than my Note 4 did, well made.

I really like how it sits in your hand with the buttons and whatnot. The power/volume always went off on their own in my pockets with the Note 4, but these are just right, and it feels quite solid.

Honestly if I could change anything I'd make the screen a higher resolution and maybe add the USB 3 the XZ Premium's getting but it was only £230 after all.

Actually expected to be disappointed but it'll do.

It looks as if it has stereo front-facing speakers. Weird because it seems to only use a bottom grille for a speaker. Guessing the front ones are for the ear speaker and mic.

>>60115982
P10

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>>60109993

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>>60101318
Just got a Nexus 4 for free, perfectly working. What should I do with it? ROM suggestions/usecase suggestions etc

>>60103452
Jesus Christ. So somebody said mokee? What's different from that and CM? Isn't it just a Chinese CM based ROM?

>>60116159
Give it back.

>>60101401
>future
>only supported for one generation

>>60116143
who uses xposed anymore?

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I can get one of these new for just over 300 dollery-dos.

Should I?

Bare in mind stereo speakers are a must-have for me, and I don't wanna go much higher than that, price-wise.

>>60116232
It's the regular Xperia X btw, not the performance one.

>>60116228
I do, but then again my phone is getting a bit long in the tooth

>>60116228
Wats wrong with xposed?

>>60108184
Nokia 6 when they finally release it

Who /gs8masterrace/ here?

>>60116208
classic

lmao I work at a phone repair shop and someone recycled it because it was water damaged, but it just needed a new battery

Hi. Should I wait for the upcoming OnePlus or buy a 3T rightaway? Also, suggest me few good models in that price range. Thanks.

>>60113739
No. Your only hope is to change the file system to F2FS and even then it's still shit. Throw it in the trash and buy a 2013 for super cheap

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>Sony Xperia phones
>Great Design
>Great Cameras
>Headphone jack on top
>Decent speakers
...
>No fingerprint scanner in the US

Why does Sony do this to us? Are they still mad about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? If I wanna turn on the fingerprint scanner I have to do a lot of bullshit then lose my warranty.

>>60116227
They're being supported again with the Moto Z2 so, two generations at least.

>>60116458
>MediaTek

>>60115665
Moto G5+

>>60116014
Is the XA1 the same as the XA? Or is it the same as the XA ultra?

>>60115982
P10 hands down. Non-Motorola Lenovo phones are garbage and are being pulled down from the marked.

>>60116672
It's the new XA. There's an XA Ultra on there but I didn't want a fuckhuge phone, Note 4 was always falling out of my pocket at the gym unless I had zipped pockets. Better for running if it's small, too.

>>60116748
market*

>>60116521
Curious - what's wrong with Mediatek SoCs if I'm not interested in flashing a custom ROM?

>>60116771
Overall performance is lacking compared to the snapdragon equivalent

>>60116126
>>60116748
Thanks for the input!

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Looking to upgrade from my LG G3, budget is around £300. What do you guys recommend

>>60116385
Hi. Look at the projected specs of the new one decide if that's worth the wait for you. alternatively, you could wait til the new one is out and buy the 3T when it's even cheaper

>>60114095
Nothing wrong with it, it's just memes. The Z line is actually quite underrated and the G5 is a good budget option if you don't want to go full chink

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>>60101401
Reporting in, loving this phone so far

>1080p AMOLED display
>Based battery life
>Stock android

I mean what's not to like

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So my old smartphone, which was given to me by a relative who bought a new phone finally fucking broke after years (Some old Sony Ericsson Xperia model) so now i need a new phone.

Thing is that basically all i'm going to do with it is use shit like whatsapp and listen to music while i'm traveling. And of course receiving calls. I still want at least Android 6, though.
Anyways, i'm not looking to spend huge amounts of money. Just want a working smartphone that doesn't shit itself whenever i use more than 2 apps.

The phone that caught my attention and seems to be recommended a lot is the Moto G4, however one of my main concerns is the fact that you can not replace the battery. It seems as thought replaceable battery is not something many reviews take into consideration when they rate the product. Is it not going to be a problem? I don't want this things battery to die after 2 or 3 years and not be able to replace it

Other than that i haven't really found anything better so far. This phone is 160€ here in germany. I heard the Plus version has a replacable battery but it got worse reviews.

Halp.

>>60117499
Fuck, also just noticed that this one apparently can't playback FLAC audio format. What the heck? Even the old as fuck Xperia i have can do that.

>>60117610
Flac is a meme and terrible waste of space especially on a phone

But if you're sure
Buy a OnePlus one on Amazon or swappa for ~$150
64GB storage without sim
3100 mah battery but also nonreplacable

What's the census on the LG X Power? Had to make a quick switch, my last phone was on the edge of an hero. I think it's a pretty alright one so far but I'm curious.

>>60117499
Sorry about your luck bro but most phone companies got away from replaceable batteries from affordable phones, Moto G5 had one and all the shotty LG variants probably do as well but I would avoid the LGs like the plague

>>60117686
It's shit, all LG variants below the G line are garbage, what's your budget?

>>60117499
Get a Moto G5, battery is replaceable

>>60117610
It can play flac, every android phone can

>>60117725
Probably around 400 to 500 at most if anything

>OnePlus 3T
>Basically everything I need in a phone
>No one local sells it

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, I want it now.

>>60117731
Oh. I looked it up on the Motorola website and it only listed MP3, WAV and so on, but no FLAC

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>>60101318
I just got a Moto G 2nd Gen (pic related)

was gonna put lineageOS on it so i could get nougat.

2 questions.
>was it a good phone purchase
>is lineageOS any good

>>60117347
>pretty much no availability outside of the US.
just rape my asshole

>>60118072
>was it a good phone purchase

Depends on what you paid for it

I'm looking for a new phone with a great battery and (possibly) a microsd slot. I'm with verizon and can only get one of these phones, https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/

Please help

Is there any way to replace the battery on the g5 plus when it inevitably dies after two years?

Or will it be a complete brick after that?

>>60118187
$145, was on a sale for $50 less. ironically, it cost less than my current, older phone, an Ace II X

How's the google pixel? Is it worth getting the XL if I'm pushing a bit on money for it.

>>60118245
I think you easily could've got a G 4th gen one for that.

But the g2 is still a great phone, even today. You can try Lineage if you want, I personally wouldn't do it unless you're unhappy with the stock one, since much can go wrong. So if you know what you're doing: why not?

>>60118337
oh, shit, i have literally no idea wtf i am doing, so maybe i won't go with lineage.

I really just want to put 7.0 on it, frankly. I have a weird irk with outdated software, but the g2 ended support after 6.0.

>>60111410
all of those are in massively different price ranges

>Mi 5s if you want good mix of performance and price
>Mi Mix if you wanna look cool and are ok to shell out the extra cash
>Redmi 4x or Redmi Note 4 for best bang for buck

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android is shit

>>60118490
yes, but ios is even worse, so we're stuck with it.

>>60110598

Using that much data would cost me $7877 AUD. 10$ per gb over 6.

>>60116748
I just got the P2 last week. It seems alright to me, given the price anyway.

what are the pros to virtual buttons instead of a physical home button? i rely on my home button for when shit crashes, but what stops the virtual buttons from freezing like any other app?

>>60116458
It's because HP is a shit you fucking mongoloid. Just flash some official UK firmware and it will work.

Any advice for britbong getting a smartphone? I just got the Huawei p10 plus but it's buggy and music quality is shit. Big audiophile, LG the way forward?

>>60118020
>No microSD card slot
Into the trash it goes

>>60113469
Next time, omit the bixby button before making up stories, since everyone knows it has a dedicated button for it
>cell phone fanboys
kek

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My note 4 just went to shit after installing marshmallow.
What's a good replacement?
I want a big screen and mostly use it for music and podcasts. I have giant hands and I'm on at&t.

>>60118393
I want a good performing phone without spending meme $, might look into the mi 5s pro or op3t.

people saying that the mi mix is shit for phone calls, i never get any but the times i do i'd hate it.

>>60113357
what does this mean

>>60118863
pretty much the only reason I haven't ordered it online. I am still looking for something but nothing seems to 100% satisfy me.

>>60117021
Moto Z play or the honor 8.

>>60110598
10GB more or less

>>60108820
Seems pretty good to me, I haven't used the zuk z2. I installed that mokee rom, works well. No headphone jack is goofy but the earbuds and 3.5mm to USB-C adapter it comes with are fine.

Fingerprint reader is flaky though, like the sensor gets put to sleep when it shouldn't. Same issue with the official ROM (well, the shady ass "USA" vendor ROM the seller flashed).

I figure mokee is the lesser of two chinese evils when it comes to ROMs for this phone. LTE works on ATT.

>>60117747
Damn that's a lot of choices, for that money I would recommend the Xperia X or X Performance

My Wileyfox Swift finally got the OTA Nougat update ready. Is it worth it, or did they fug it up?

Is it worth it to not get the Wileyfox Swift 2 and get the 2 plus or X instead?

Honestly don't know if it is worth the price.

>>60113062
Would going from a Nexus 6 to a Priv be a waste? Always wanted one but it doesn't seem much better

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This is a tablet question. Somebody has this problem too? Android apps on 4:3 aspect ratio screens seems to miss and entire right column in landscape mode that renders in an eternal loading animation.

I will never choose android again with their glorified phone apps right ported into tablets

>>60119749
Lol facebook user.

>>60117499
meizu u10/20

>try to get my redmeme note 3 pro unlocked to install the new miui 8 and update the android
>get the gtfo by xiameme
>try it again after a few months
>send the request
>get approved in a few minutes

woah

So, yeah, I'll try to install MIUI 8. Right now I have a 7.3.6.0.0 something and android 5.1.1. Will I be able to update both?

>>60119734
I would say so, I would get the X for Quick Charge 3.0 and the larger full HD screen, but the 2 Plus is good if you want a phone with 5" 720P screen on it

>>60101318
What's the least curry Custom ROM for ZTE Axon 7

>>60119898
MIUI8 is just Xiaomi's customizations on top of a newer Android version (either 6 or 7 i'm not sure). So yes, you'll be able to update both if you find the correct ROM.

>>60119997
lineage os has official builds iirc

>>60120029
>Preceded by CurryMod

>>60120023
uugh, I'm finding a lot of ways to update MIUI but not to update from android 5.1.1 to 6.something. What do?

>>60120093
They should go hand in hand. Try updating to MIUI8 and then see what your Android version is. I'm pretty sure MIUI versions are tied to Android versions.

>>60120115
Then ok, I'll try that. Thanks anon.

NEW

>>60120166

>>60120166

>>60120166

>>60120166

>>60102934
Try a Zerolemon battery/case combo. Their batteries are great. My S4 Galaxy got one in 2013 and it still works fine.

What rom should I get for a redmi note 4 if any ?

>>60103770
>I want a phone around the same size but with a better battery life.

I'm not a Zerolemon shill but I fucking love their batteries since I use Waze for navigation. I'd get their battery/case combo and rock the S6. I'm still using my S4 with a 2013 Zerolemon battery.

>>60118376
If you have a weird irk with outdated software, you shouldn't have bought an Android, familia.

Even if you put 7.0 on it, you're still 2 versions behind (7.1.1, 7.1.2).

Only way around that shit is to buy a Pixel or buy an iPhone. Even the brand new S8 launches with only 7.0. It's sad.

>>60119749
Welcome to Android on tablets.

(Why do you think Google doesn't give a flying fuck about this group of users)