/retro/ - old computers and tech

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>>60087096

>>60087096
wow is that the computer from portal ?? xD

Old thread: >>60033287

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old shit incorporated
my casio PDA i had to use at work where cell phones were not allowed

installing the sims on my thinkpad t42 right now for some old school simulation

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Here is the last one i have atm
From previous thread

>>60087137
that things pretty darn neat

>>60087153
shame i cant say the same for my piece of shit phone camera
ill get better pics with a nicer camera if anyone is interested in a cheap pda from 1996

>>60087151
I know the Compaq CMOS utility was all nice and cool but somehow I always hated it because it gave me more headaches then solved shit.

>>60087107
>Win7 era ThinkPad
>Retro.

What's a good alternative to EMM386.EXE? Specially for UMB.

>>60087151
For future reference, any more pics of the dock by itself or the laptop turned on will have to wait. The dock is currently partially disassembled because i have to hook up a cd drive in the spare slot. and the new hdd i got for the laptop doesnt have an OS on it and i dont have any floppys.

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Backing up some data from old floppies and from my 486, I think my father bought this PC back in ’92

>>60087420
Man, I need a 5 1/4 floppy drive

>>60087439
the sound these make when reading/writing files is so comfy

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>>60087577

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The 8*24GC wasn't that great. It did look neat, though.

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>>60087096
From the previous thread. It's still around.

http://home.mcom.com/home/welcome.html

>>60087825
Holy fucking shit, talk about ancient

>>60087774
Aw shit, I need some newer nubus card for my Quadra

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Bitches be about it.

>>60088155
You know you're supposed to take the watch off when you want to use it with the keypad...

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>>60088185
It looks more badass with it on tho

>>60087774
More? Your machine?

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>>60088480
Agreed

>>60087825
>several decades in the future, people will be powering up a ancient macintosh with netscape and get it online and this page will still load up

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>>60087825
>>60087937
>>60088644
But, wait, there's more!

http://www.3riversstadium.com/index2.html

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Pic related
Has anyone ever legitimately wished this phone was real? I would unironically use it if it existed.

>>60088820
So, something like a Nokia N900?

>>60088830
Yes, but it needs to be thicker and have more IO than i can possibly use at once.

>>60088860
Glue a USB hub behind it and add all sorts of shit, from DVB-T receivers and floppy drives to USB video outputs and sound DACs

>>60088870
lol

>>60088996
It's possible though

>>60088480
When I saw Starwars Eps 2 and 3 back in the day as a teenager I used to think about that kid growing up to become Darth Vader.

>>60088820
Is it bad that I am actual debating on how long this thing would take to make?

>>60089048
No. I have contemplated it many times.

>>60087169
>tfw the BIOS utility was saved on the HDD and the BIOS is inaccessible without it or the floppies

If the machine has only a BIOS with SCSI support, then the IDE header on a sound card would be useless? Or could the driver handle it?

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Suitcase computers are comfy.

>>60089082
>have a sharp like that
>instead of basic it has some shitty undocumented insurance calculation program installed

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>>60089075
>mfw
Are you serious? aw shit. is there any other way to like get an iso or someshit?

>>60089123
Well, at least it was like that on my desktop compaq
You can still install windows on it without the BIOS and then create the floppies from there, maybe even install the program from windows itself, not sure

>>60089075
I once couldn't configure a bigger hard drive, because the setup utility didn't auto detect the heads and cylinders, even though the drive actually worked fine with the BIOS itself fine, it was just the utility that wasn't programmed to support those sizes, worse, the utility didn't even support those sizes I wanted to enter manually, the only way I could finally get it to work was to enter one value and restart then go back and enter another, else it would change the previously manually entered value, real mindfuck.

>>60089148
Well i guess i better go get some floppys and find a windows 95 iso somewhere.

>>60089169
shit im probably gonna have this problem too because the computer originally came with either a 2gb, 5gb, or 10gb ide hdd and i currently have a 40gb one for it.

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It must have been a great experience to be a teenager/kid in the early 80s, getting your first ever computer and learning to program in BASIC and assembly language and stuff.

>>60089204
A drive overlay software might work though even with wrong values in the BIOS, also, if the BIOS battery is OK, then you only would have to do it once, anyways, it might have been just a problem with the setup utility for my particular model of machine

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>>60088737
Dole Kemp '96 campaign website

http://www.dolekemp96.org/main.htm

>>60089221
Indeed

>>60089227
My original plan was to use the cd drive on the dock to boot and install DSL on it but ive been having trouble with power connectors and shit. unless i can get that to work im going to have to get a floppy and somehow load DSL on it or do some windows 95 bullshit.

>>60089282
Sounds comfy, good luck with it

>>60087217
HIMEM.SYS

>>60089457
HIMEM.SYS is XMS, EMM386 is UMB and EMS

>>60089457
Ahh fuck, it's been a long time. I remember having to fuck with both of them non stop to get some games to work right.

>>60089388
thx m8. ill report back with full setup once i get everything working.

>>60087439
You're going to need a new computer to put it in as well. Last computer I had that supported a 5 1/4" floppy drive was one I built in 2005. Any computer I had after that date didn't support 5 1/4" floppy drives in the BIOS, only 3 1/2" floppy drives (my last build also only support a single floppy drive instead of 2).

>>60089606
KryoFLUX

>>60089627
>$100 with no cables included
Or you could just get an old machine.

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>>60089082

>>60089826
>The future is on line
stay a bunch of ovbious pedofiles

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>>60090076
>asl?

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hey, armadafag here, i just booted up the laptop with the new hdd in it and i got pic related.
>>60089169 To that one anon talking about the hard drive headers, is pic related the situation you were talking about?

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>>60090071
This actually looks sick af

>>60090220
This seems to be fine, where do you see the problem?

>>60090220
>ls
>Bad command or file name
Do this:
>cd to dos dir
>type in: edit
>into edit type: dir/w
>press alt and select save
>save as: ls.bat
now you have actual ls (list) directory view and command without having to retrain your muscle memory

>>60089075
>>60089169

> yo dawg
> I heard you like operating systems
> so we made an operating system for your operating system
> its gotta be installed on your hard drive too

>>60090308
We still have similar shit, called recovery partition

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>>60090308
I'm pretty sure compaq just licensed DOS and some windows clone GUI like GEM for the "BIOS", and put them on a small custom partition
Pic related

>>60090334
That's exactly what they did, just a nice graphical BIOS utility

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>>60090360
They also included a "keyboard not found, press F1 to continue" error

>>60090398
Classic, but sometimes it still worked if it was just a stuck key or something

>>60087577
until they stop doing it right, and make all sorts of... other noises...

>>60088820
>no shortwave radio
literal trash.

>>60089251
why is this one still around? Did they just forget that they're paying to keep it up? Was it a time capsule project or something?

>>60090452
http://www.dolekemp96.org/news/releases/proct0796a.htm

I wonder if it's hosted on the same machine as back when it was made, lel

And yes, companies often "forget" minor shit like this

>>60090294
when i type 'edit' it still gives me Bad command or file name
when i dir in the dos directory the only thing in there is some executable called MSCDEX

>>60090523
Ah, probably not a full DOS installation

>>60087096
Could this be retrofitted with the internals of a modern laptop.

Would be sexy if so.

>>60090538
There is no OS on the hard drive. btw i know almost 0 DOS commands so any help with that would be appreciated

As long as we're mentioning classic websites, it's worth noting that this one is still up:

http://www.heavensgate.com/

>>60090523
cd dos
edit

>>60090565
There's a broken DOS install on the C: drive though in your picture.
What are you planning on doing anyways?

>>60090569
There's also this
http://art.net/
Online since 1994
http://art.net/whats_new.html

>>60090596
>when i dir in the dos directory the only thing in there is some executable called MSCDEX
that won't help him

>>60090538
I also explained my situation here earlier >>60089282

>>60090564
>laptop
With the amount of room in that thing you can put full desktop parts in it

>>60090618
Did it boot off the CD? Do you have a floppy drive?

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>>60088820
>>60089048
>>60089055
>>60088830
>>60088860

How about this...
Many of those features...

Make spare USB modules for them, they plug into one of the (Four, full size) USB ports on the device. Now you hurt the profits of the chinaman since these things work for other devices too.

Also the cell phone is a radio technically right? Why should it only be able to communicate at the same frequency as the cell towers?

Use it for AM/FM as well.
> leave it hackable so it can be used to scan any variety of frequencies, just dont support this officially

> Flip Out Keyboard
discarded

laser keyboard, now you just type on your desk or table.

>floppy drive
unless you're speaking of Superdisk
no just kidding

however a regular size SD card slot would be perfect, with forwards compatability to whatever end of SD density they might accomplish.

also none of this OTG micro-usb shit, those (four) usb ports need to take devices

> AC power
make it capable of taking high end laptop power supply (65W?), and then attach lower end plug adapters

no these adapters dont just fall off the bottom, they screw in, and allow using anything from mini usb, micro usb, lightning cable, or even the common laptop charger cords

no I dont think the apple spatula should be used, because fuck that

> if its lower power, that just means it takes longer to charge, this way you fuck the charger companies since someone can just plug their laptop cord into it


If I may add...

It can be a little thicc but I demand that thickness put its ass to work for something.

An 8,000-12,000mah battery standard. Kinda like the cheero. If that fucker only costs $30 then it should be IN a phone.

I dont care if my phone weighs 3 pounds. Handguns are about that size and weight anyway.

>>60090625
true. What's that thing called and where can I get one so I can try this?

>>60090617
Well, you won't get far without a text editor or access to another DOS install/CD drive
Maybe try putting the HDD into another newer computer, format it and put DOS files onto it

>>60090655
Osborne Executive, there's also the Osborne 1 that's similar
Few hundred bucks on eBay

>>60090655
>wanting to fucking destroy an osborne computer
You idiot. Only a few were ever made

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Got this glorious motherfucker for €30 some months ago. I have to get around to installing FreeBSD on it. I already have a SATA II card and a dual GbE NIC in it.

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>>60089112
> undocumented

>>60090672
>few
tens of thousands

>>60090676
can't find any info about it anywhere

>>60090633
I cant use the cd drive atm because its not properly hooked up to the dock to power it. There is a floppy drive in the laptop but i dont have any floppys with anything preinstalled on them to boot from.

>>60090672
wait no nevermind im sorry

>>60090675
I remember! Nice!

>>60090691
Is this what comes up with you boot it? Just the DOS prompt?

>>60090656
The laptop hdd is ide. I have a HP Compaq Pro 6300 SFF to work with. I guess ill open it and see if it has PATA/IDE support on it.

>>60090742
The laptop IDE requires an adapter to desktop IDE

>>60090717
yes

>>60088959
If I recall there's an LGR video where he shows off like 5 of those things.

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>>60090706
Yay, someone remembers me! That reminds me that I have to make a video about the Amstrad PPC6128, but I'm just not familiar enough with it yet. I'm also trying to connect this fucker to my Ethernet network, and so far I've had a faulty network card and a MAU that can't send packets. I think I'm just going to get a 10baseT hub with a coax port and be done with it.

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>>60090742
Laptop PATA drives use smaller headers that won't fit a desktop PATA cable. You need this or a pin adapter.

>>60090756
There's not much you can do then, unless you connect the CD ROM drive and it manages to boot from it or at least access it with the driver that's apparently already on your hard drive, you could write CDs to transfer data to it or install a new OS. If you had floppies and another drive you could do more also, right now your best possible choice actually is getting the hard drive itself connected to another machine and doing an install on it that way.

>>60090772
any recommendations on where to get one?

>>60090807
ebay? they are like 3 bucks, slightly more if they come with the power brick

>>60090765
CPC6128* Fuck me, it's quarter to five in the morning over here. gotta go to sleep.

Polite sage because shit post.

>>60090806
I have one floppy but nothing else that can read them.

>>60090765
>>60090826
Very nice! Looking forward to it!

>>60090806
I guess ill just have to get some adapters then. Thanks for the help.

>>60090828
You are screwed then buddy. Floppies are out of the question then, unless again, you buy a USB floppy drive.

>>60090838
How about trying to get the CD ROM fixed and working? Might be easier and faster then buying an adapter and waiting for it.
Anyways, good luck!

>>60090413
>>60090398
> the sound of one hand clapping
> computer repair Hardmode engaged

> mfw the 304 key keyboard comes out

>>60090334
>>60090360
That sounds pretty scary in terms of reliability, bios are supposed to be simple and rugged and thats anything but.

>>60090493
> probably hoping we'll reconsider Dole for election, he's still alive right?


>>60090523
>>60090538
you're right it is not a full dos installation, you could get it online but getting it on a boot up floppy or other media for that comp might be tricky

"edit" is a text utility much like notepad which came with ms-dos, without it you cant do much of anything

dos commands:
cd = change folder (which is called a directory). If you type two dots .. it goes to the root folder above the current one.

drive letter and colon = go to another drive, such as c: means go to c drive

dir = show directory
dir /? = show help options for directory command
rename (switches and files) = rename stuff


> MSCDEX
The basic dos driver for a cd rom drive.
Im not sure but it may have to be loaded from Autoexec.bat as the computer is booting up, along with proper switches.

You may be able to simply Run this program so it becomes a TSR, its worth a try. But most likely you will have to have it loaded from boot.

By the way I also believe Config.sys is like Autoexec.bat it just loads a different series of files and TSRs on bootup. I think its in plain text format like a batch file.

>>60090569
>how about No

>>60090854
>That sounds pretty scary in terms of reliability, bios are supposed to be simple and rugged and thats anything but.
Tell us about it...

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>>60090875
the worst part is, they did this up until around 2009 on a lot of thinkpads.

>>60090875
I dont think its the bios though. The computer didnt boot into a shell like that before i put the hard drive in it. I think, like that previous anon mentioned, its a broken partition of dos or something left over on the drive.

>>60090959
No, the utility to configure the BIOS is a small DOS system with a GUI. Nothing to do with your other broken DOS installation.

>>60090689

I just used EDIT in the dos days.

When windows came out I started using Wordpad and Notepad. And also MS Works. But I believe these were also in windows 3.1 in some limited fashion, however I still used EDIT because it was quick and easy.

I still use wordpad to be honest... it loads much faster than word does and it supports fonts, and generally does what I need it to unless I need the heavy lifting.

>>60091009
There are a lot of awesome editors for DOS, but usually I just keep to edit unless I already replaced it with something more powerful, MS edit itself is pretty okay too

>>60090942
I mean ive got no problem with a feature rich easily navigable GUI for the bios.

But the bios itself should be hunkered down basic and dependable like all the others. And there's nothing saying they couldn't have had a spare chip with the gui on it since (I mean a fucking super nintendo cartridge could hold at least 4mb of data)

>>60091024
yeah I mean the thing is in dos you're only going to be seeing 1 font and thats it, any font selection is only going to affect what gets sent to a printer, there really isnt too much dynamic flexibility to a word processor at that level, its all basic stuff

maybe a little more functionality than notepad but we're talking about the same thing pretty much

the funky thing is I wrote homework in 'edit back in the 90s because I was 11 when we got our first computer ('93)

I think corel wordperfect was another one of those programs that had an early start too but my family never got any of the corel stuff.

Ironically I did use edit in the early '00s to modify mod files for a doom sourceport called EDGE (they were .ddf files). Because notepad was technically less capable in some ways and I wanted to change screen colors to make it easier to see things.

>>60091115
>And there's nothing saying they couldn't have had a spare chip with the gui on it since
Cost.

We do have graphical BIOSes now with mouse support and more, all on flash.

>>60090675
I'm pretty sure that was one of the floor standing servers, and not a desktop model. They're fun, but loud as fuck. I hope you have a basement to run it in!

Also, NetBSD and OpenBSD ran really well on the spark machines I used to have. And they installed super easy as well. Just in case you run into issues with FBSD.

>>60091146
>cost
even in those days the chips (eeprom?) would have cost like 5 bucks

the N64 carts held alot more and those were only about 10-15 bucks to make I believe, and we're talking about the days after SNES was kaput.

>>60091179
Yet they choose that over doing it with a dedicated ROM like most manufacturers did with just a simple BIOS

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>>60089251
This one might not be retro, but it's hell in website form.

https://yvettesbridalformal.p1r8.net/

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1493263924300.webm

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>>60091366
The Flaming Pop-Tart Experiment

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gmbrown/tart/

>>60090675
holy frig, noce e250. you can heat your whole house.

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>>60091452
Here's an old archive of AOL

http://web.archive.org/web/19961220154856/http://www.aol.com/

Also, am I the only one that likes the look of older websites (the dithering of the GIFS and everything)?

>>60088737
Forgot all about this site being up. You from the area anon?

>>60091534
>am I the only one that likes the look of older websites
no you are not. i like them as well.

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>>60090675
>>60090765
Love your vids

>>60091565
Not really. I just happen to know it.

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>>60091534
Here's the oldest live webcam on the internet.

http://www.fogcam.org/

>>60091636
I remember that webcam of that chicks apartment back in the late 90's

>>60091580
dude if this image was a little sharper and better exposed, like god tier /g/+/p/ material

>>60091580
Like >>60091677 said
Make a new picture!

>>60089221
everything's too abstracted away these adys

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>>60091636
Here's an image of Nick.com in 2006. Unfortunately, the flash animations don't load on archive.org anymore.

>>60087211
Go to bed grandpa

You don't want to sleep in and miss your prostate exam

>>60091829
Topkek

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>>60091677
>>60091697
I'm gonna take another picture once I get the rest of the room finished off. I still need to find a nice lounge chair / recliner and move my grandpa's Zenith console stereo TV combo.

50% computer lab; 50% retro lounge

100% comfy

>>60087111
it's the one I used to edit your mom's sex tape lmao

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>>60091710
"Still up after all these goddamn years, what the hell." - Joel from Vinesauce

https://www.warnerbros.com/archive/spacejam/movie/jam.htm

>>60090608
what is this?

>>60092209
It looks like a KIM-1

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>>60092385

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>>60092397

>>60092385
Holy shit, that gun!

>>60092385
Do guns like this actually exist?

>>60090655
>>60090564
But why? Whats the point? A laptop works much better designed like it is, instead of forecing it into such case and this computer works already

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>>60090689
I use my NeXT for writing....

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>>60093322
As the owner of OP pic, I could not agree more.

Paradoxically, there were 125,000+ Osborne 1's made, but they got for $1000+. Meanwhile the Executives, which only clocked up about 20,000 units before Osbourne went belly up, are significantly cheaper, despite a bigger screen, more RAM, and greater scarcity. Go figure.

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>>60087096
>>60094222
That screen is beautiful.
>>60090765
>>60090675
>>60091580
Link to channel?

>>60090071

Looks like a bomb.

>>60089251

Bob Dole was a cuck and a faggot, I'm glad BillO landslided his ass.

>>60094430
https://www.youtube.com/user/ilovethetwinfamicom
'ere you go

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>>60094514
n1 maf

>>60090675
>Got this glorious motherfucker for €30 some months ago.
You lucky bastard, how the fuck did you manage that?

>>60094558
There's a computer "recycling" store not very far from me with shitloads of Sun stuff. They have an old rackmount Netra T1 going for 10€ right now, but it's just too noisy and impractical for me.
>>60091528
>>60091173
I'm planning on using it as a homeserver, since it doesn't really use much power at all, even if it looks like it does. I have replaced the fans in it and now the loudest thing is the 10K RPM disk it uses for booting.

>>60094558
There's a computer "recycling" store not very far from me with shitloads of Sun stuff. They have an old rackmount Netra T1 going for 10€ right now, but it's just too noisy and impractical for me.
>>60091528
>>60091173
I'm planning on using it as a homeserver, since it doesn't really use much power at all, even if it looks like it does. I have replaced the fans in it and now the loudest thing is the 10K RPM disk it uses for booting.

>>60087096
Here are some videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sefDF7ePgLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blvC0DA96dI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEXswgWga4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pawOMIlMfIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuUvd_YDGDs

>>60094558
There's a computer "recycling" store not very far from me with shitloads of Sun stuff. They have an old rackmount Netra T1 going for 10€ right now, but it's just too noisy and impractical for me.
>>60091528
>>60091173
I'm planning on using it as a homeserver, since it doesn't really use much power at all, even if it looks like it does. I have replaced the fans in it and now the loudest thing is the 10K RPM disk it uses for booting.

>>60089123
Never knew the trace was based on your pic...

>>60088155
Put an Apple logo on it, call it an i-whatever and the Apple sheep would buy and wear it.

>>60088155
Delet this

>>60089123
HP's website still has a lot of old files saved, I managed to grab the BIOS disk utility for my Deskpro 6000 that required three floppies to write on.

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>tfw just got this Philips PM3350A analog/digital oscilloscope from 1989 (I think) for free

>>60095599
where do you find stuff like this?

>>60096783
I didn't find it. I happened to mention to my dad that I was looking for a scope and he asked one of his old colleagues at an electronics company if they had some old scopes they were selling off. Usually they sell them to anyone interested as far as he knew, but apparently this dude just wanted to give it to me for free. Which was a very nice surprise.
I think companies that are selling (or throwing out) old equipment are usually a good bet for getting this stuff on the cheap. I've heard of americans dumpster diving and finding amazing treasures, but I don't think that's a thing here in yurop.

>>60088155
I have one of these!
Still have the boxes too.
Even have printer paper for it

>>60096862
>I don't think that's a thing here in yurop
Electronic waste depots my man. I've seen all kinds of functional stuff from blenders and CRT monitors to signal analyzers and a metric asston basically anything computer related, most notably a fucking blade server loaded to the gills with Nehalems. Some are really strict about not allowing scavengers though, so your luck may vary.

>>60096915
This thing had a fucking printer in it?

>>60087137
Does this thing have PC Sync on it as well, What the fuck does that mean?

>>60096862
I've found electronics being throwing out in the trash but usually it's consumer shit like old game consoles and televisions. There are some universities near me that sell of old lab equipment and computer but its generally overpriced.

why does old tech last so long in terms of deterioration?
I find used equipment that's 20-30 years old and I can often times boot it just fine, but modern stuff only has a 1-3 year warranty usually and you often have to make use of it.

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>>60096783
>>60096862
>>60098571
I find stuff in my uni's ewaste pile all the time, free for the taking.

pic related of things I've found

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>>60098786
Absence of planned obsolescence. Higher build quality, materials of better quality.
But don't forget, technology used to be expensive back in the good old days.

>>60098786
"they don't make em like they used to"

>>60098786
>but modern stuff only has a 1-3 year warranty usually and you often have to make use of it.
Stop buying consumer grade shit then

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>>60090689

>>60094489
>Deer PSU
>ABIT motherboard from the cap plague era
gee i wonder why

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>>60095599
Is there a voltage limit or circuit limit for those things? What I mean is, are they basically glorified volt meters? I am looking to get into EE and I don't want to burn an o-scope out, so I just need to know if they are built with electrical input isolation. Are they mostly idiot proof? Thanks

>>60099066
Your thumbnails is raping my post
>>60099065
you fucking fucker.

Also, I have a RadioShack TRS-80 Model 4P that needs some work. Any links that might be handy for parts and schematic would be appreciated.

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http://www.lolworld.com/

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>>60090689
Because I use WordPerfect 5.1

>>60099313
Wow.
That must be the pinnacle of web design.

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>>60099313

<html>

<head>
<title>LOL </title>
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 3.0">
<base target="contents">
</head>

<body bgcolor="#00FF00">

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color="#FF0000">Life On Line</font><font color="#0000FF">) Internet Consultants</font></big></big></big></strong></p>

<p align="center"><font color="#0000FF"><strong><big>We Help You Use the Internet to
Expand YOUR World!</big></strong></font></p>

<p align="center"><img src="CHEETA.GIF" width="140" height="60"
alt="Cheeta.gif (7232 bytes)"><strong><big><big><font color="#400040">I'm Coming to Help
You!</font></big></big></strong></p>
</body>
</html>

I miss pages like that.

>>60099225
You measure voltage with them, and yes, there is a limit. Usually fairly obvious what that limit is. It's printed right above the terminals on mine. Max 400Vpk.

>>60089789
If you need it for archival or just read/write proposes, KryoFLUX is great, any floppy, 3 1/2" to 5 1/4", any file system or computer, it can write and read it

im so excited to go back home from school in may because i have a
timex Sinclair 1000
ti 99/4a
commodore 64
All waiting in boxes with software and accessory's waiting to be played with.

>>60099641
That's cool, lots to mess around with then

>>60099066
>that obvious Amstrad design

>>60090334
>Business audio: on

Only for serious business

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Guys.

According to google there's a computer recycling facility pretty close to where I live. Pictures show stacks of old server towers and boxes of old (early-mid 2000s) corporate laptops.

>mfw they're destroying all of them

I'm going to save these glorious pieces of technology /g/. Wish me luck.

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>tfw old Macintosh SCSI drive in a 386DX
Pls no bully

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>>60100587
Blassemy!

>>60090452
>"bob! it's time to take the web site down."
>bob dole can't take the site down.
>bob dole is running for president!
>"bob, the election is over. you lost."
>bob dole is not going to lose! BOB DOLE IS GOING TO WIN!
>"i'm calling the guys in the white coats."
>bob dole...bob dole...BOB DOLE!

>>60100686
kek

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>>60089251
>>60090452
fun fact: all the presidential websies have been archived by the national archives

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/

>>60100315
What's so obvious about it? Amstrad delivered some completely different designs... CPC, PPC, PC1512, PCW, PC20, NC...

>>60101249
bitch please, AMS wouldn't know taste if it bit him in the ass

>>60100575
Post pics and good luck!

>>60087107
I always remember the stinkpads we had in elementary school.

>>60099474

<big></big>

Kill it with /dev/null .

>>60102080
Gotta love Microsoft FrontPage 3.0

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Is 2003 old ?
Maybe not but it sure feels old
Not in a bad way, like a "we built it to last" kind of way.

GOD I HAVE THE BIGGEST FUCKING BONER IN THIS FUCKING THREAD FUUCKCK

>>60100587
The HDD in my T42 was scavenged from a PowerBook G4 I found in a dumpster
As long as it works ya know

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>>60099445
the pinnacle of web design is yahoo japan

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It makes me cringe so much when I watch videos on youtube about this old shit and people try to be "smart" in the comments, worse if the video author him/herself is a total dumbass and others actually defend it because they have no clue

>>60102969
Tell me about it...
>druaga1 thinks the RAID in CMOS is actual hardware RAID

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>>60102969
Nobody is forcing you to watch them you know, idiots will always exist, ignore it.
It just sucks we don't have many channels about such content, some cool channels like VWestlife, 90% of the time they are okay, but then they manage to day something so dumb and obvious it's not even funny.

>>60100587
Quantum's a pretty common SCSI maker anyway, is there something wrong with the NEC drive that's already in that thing? It looks like a pretty nice system, whatever it is.
>>60102969
Like in what way? I don't think you can expect people to be innately knowledgeable about this kind of equipment, at least if we're talking about things like erroneous dating and showing off things as higher-end than they really were as a new product.

>>60103185
Indeed, they are pretty good drives too, but a little Apple logo on the drive, inside a Wintel shitbox, sounds just wrong.
There's nothing really wrong with the old drive as I can tell, it might be more noisy then it should at times and it's only 40MB and slow, even the old Quantum drive is several times bigger and faster.
It's a 386 system made by Nokia >>60054521

>>60103294
Those kinds of drives are usually pretty loud, and for me it's half the fun. Feels like a real machine. 40MB isn't really super terrible either for a system of that class, but I guess it depends what you've got and what you want to do, it's always been easier for me to use smaller drives since I've got a lot of different systems I can spread out applications over.

I share your aversion though, if it were my box I'd just keep it in there in the mean time while I search around for an external SCSI enclosure and shove it in there down the road, that I could keep it stock and enjoy it as it was as a brand new product. But still, you can always tell yourself it was an upgrade someone shoved in there after a friend/relative's Mac died or something. A little autism goes a long way.

>>60102622
>Good ol' plain HTML
>No cringy CG gifs
>No skeumorphism
MUH DICC

>>60103414
>Those kinds of drives are usually pretty loud, and for me it's half the fun. Feels like a real machine.
From time to time it did a squeaky sound I'm pretty sure it shouldn't do, probably from the platter bearing.
The current Quantum drive is still nicely audible, just less distracting.

>40MB isn't really super terrible either for a system of that class, but I guess it depends what you've got and what you want to do, it's always been easier for me to use smaller drives since I've got a lot of different systems I can spread out applications over.
Yeah, I just choose to keep all the shit I need always on it, specially games and media. I'm not planning to have a fleet of those machine either.

>I share your aversion though, if it were my box I'd just keep it in there in the mean time while I search around for an external SCSI enclosure and shove it in there down the road, that I could keep it stock and enjoy it as it was as a brand new product. But still, you can always tell yourself it was an upgrade someone shoved in there after a friend/relative's Mac died or something. A little autism goes a long way.
I prefer usability over originality mostly, retailers probably sold those machines with different upgrades anyways as it was custom to most of the wintel stuff back then.
The Quantum is from my Quadra 650 which drive I replaced with a 22GB 15K RPM with ridiculous amount of cache, wish I would have gotten more of those drives through as the seller had several, wouldn't even mind one of them in it if the controller recognizes at least some of it, that one really sounds like a jet taking off when turning it on.

>>60101338
Amstrad was the Samsung of the '80s
>Started making shitty integrated stereo systems, just like Samsung
>Then jumped into the trendy bandwagon, which was microcomputers, just like Samsung with mobile phones
>Wanted to copy the all-in-one Macintosh design but did it half-assedly with the keyboard (computer) connecting with three fucking wires to the monitor (two in case of the CPC464), just like Samsung with the iPhone
>Shitty build quality, just like Samsung
>Their hardware was once really good for the price, just like Samsung's
>Then people started overrating the brand, just like with Samsung
>Then they started rising the prices to make themselves look like a "premium" company, just like Samsung

That said, I'd take a CPC over a Mac any day of the week. Way better community.
Samsung's phones have achieved what they were going for, though: being steaming piles of shit just like the iPhone.

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>>60103624

>>60103624
Those weirdo SBC-on-backplane designs seem more common than you'd expect in my experience. And now that I'm googling around that drive seems surprisingly small, most 386DX/25s at least stateside seemed to be shipping with minimum 80-100MB disks by 1990, and the wiki page for those systems lists the 40MB option as ATA-only, weird.

If the drive's shitting out, I wouldn't regret replacing it then, I'd always keep it as a spare or even try to fix it though, it's getting damn hard to find anything SCSI (or even ATA) from that era.

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Sorry for the quality of the pics, I only have my moto e to take them with.

>>60103863
>Those weirdo SBC-on-backplane designs seem more common than you'd expect in my experience. And now that I'm googling around that drive seems surprisingly small, most 386DX/25s at least stateside seemed to be shipping with minimum 80-100MB disks by 1990, and the wiki page for those systems lists the 40MB option as ATA-only, weird.
Well, it was a system made by Nokia, wiki pages does say it has a SCSI option for 200MB and 400MB, but does not specify if the 40MB and 100MB models where ATA only, most likely both as this machine did have 40MB SCSI.
But it's also not the cheapest model of the system, because it has SuperVGA, cheaper ones had just VGA.

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>>60103957
What a comfy system, you know you can make your own bay adapter easily for the 3 1/2" floppy drive from a more modern CD/DVD and case slot cover.
Like I did in pic related.

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Is Hi-Fi equipment allowed here?

>>60104009
Always.

>>60103958
Could be, I concluded they must have been ATA since the SCSI options were pointed out specifically. Good shit either way, though, wouldn't have been cheap.

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>>60104004
That actually looks quite impressive tbqh
>>60104021
Also, how about this cheating cunt typing on my Selectric III?

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>>60104069
>Also, how about this cheating cunt typing on my Selectric III?
Weren't you like totally in love with her but she wasn't interested?

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>>60104069
>That actually looks quite impressive tbqh
Thanks, also coloured it black latter to match the spinning rust.

>>60103887
Oh those British, you could play cricket with that thing

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>>60104082
Kind of. We were friends with benefits until she got a gf. Then her gf brainwashed her completely and turned her into a full-on feminazi. It's a shame, she was pretty talented, but just ended up smoking weed and being a cunt. She also cheated on her gf with a guy.

Glad that's all over, my life went to complete shit over that period. Now I'm sorting my shit out, I'm managing to get some money by repairing stuff from people in my environment. Thing is, I got a proper loving gf now, but she's 400km away. So I spend all the money I make on trips to see her. That means no useless junk to make videos about.

Pic was my main laptop up until about three months ago, when I got a cheap Latitude E4300.

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>>60103795
Not exactly true. The CPC464 was was a pure consumer machine and meant to compete the C64. Samsung made mobile phones since 1985, IMHO the first touchscreen smartphone was the omnia. It released in 2008. This means, it was in development long before the iPhone came out.
But yeah, the conclusion seems correct.

>>60091452
holy shit i remember reading about this in a dave barry book when i was 12

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>>60104217
Linux on 90s laptop? Please use some retro Linux distribution.

>>60095510
The last time i tried to look for anything related t the armada, all i could find were some manuals and stuff. but i guess ill look again now that i know what to look for.

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yes I know 2003 isn't really retro but I like the case. IRIX was amazing, I always wanted one as a kid but of course they cost half of my dad's annual salary.

>>60104318

Is that a trackball on a laptop? How well does it work?

>>60104347
Trackball laptops where real common, they work great, far prefered for input then a trackpoint in terms of comfort and accuracy.

>>60104318
I was using a completely up to date Debian install. Bear in mind I had to use this machine as my only computer when I wasn't home.

>>60104347
Still works great. It was common back in the days.

>>60103957
Something is wrong with the microwave

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>>60104343
Anon, you are right. IRIX was damn good.

>>60104480
So, what's new?

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speaking of trackballs....

>>60097555
yeah
basically you plug it into a windos 95/98 computer with some special program and it saves everything, lets you edit shit, etc

>>60104511
That things so cute!

>>60104495
Good question... Not much, i was lazy and didn't even think of photos when i was playing around with old disc dial phones, PPC and acoustic couplers... but it's fun...

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>>60104495
Oh, did I mention bifi shopping...

>>60104686
That's obvious bifibro!

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>>60104704
Damn, how did you know!?!

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cool all in one retro computer I own, not included in pic is equally the a e s t h e t i c cherry mx esque space saver keyboard, CRT is blown and is missing a card :(

>>60104759
>tfw it's almost as old as the Eiffel Tower itself

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>>60104777
Holy shit, nice scientific computer! Too bad it's not working...

http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/nelson.shtml

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Pic is the inside of my 1986 Nissan 300ZX. It has equalizer sliders on the stereo, switches for the headlights, a volume slider on the steering wheel, electric seats, electric mirrors, a voice that tells you if the light are left on and some other cool stuff.

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>>60090590
>dat accurate stylus on CRT detection
How?

>>60104780
It's from around 1915. At least the mentioned catalogue I found online is dated 1915. But there is no production date or anything alike on the kit.

>>60104825
>CRT draws lines
>Computer knows what exact "pixel" is light up at any second
>Putting styluses photosensor against the screen, it can pinpoint it exact location

>>60104812
that's dope looks like the Knight Rider interior

>>60104933
>any second
any millisecond

>>60104511
Nice G80. But i prefer blue switches.

>>60089082
I've thought about trying to make a "truly portable" XBOX One S, in a suitcase like that.

It would have to be the S because of its size, but I would have to use memory foam cutouts to protect it. I would need a small TV and a 1outlet to 2outlet converter.

I would need to make a compartment behind the TV for storing discs if they're not downloaded (hinge the TV to the side of the suitcase so it swings open like a door), and cut a hole out of the front of the suitcase for the disc slot.

I would need to store the controllers in a mesh zipper bag to carry controllers and headphones in.

>>60105457
Just call up Ben Heck

>>60094222
>but they got for $1000+
Nah, idiots on eBay may ask for such price but nobody ever buys them for that, couple hundred bux max usually.

>>60104825
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_pen
The tech's about as old as digital computing itself.

>>60106050
>A light pen detects a change of brightness of nearby screen pixels when scanned by cathode ray tube electron beam and communicates the timing of this event to the computer. Since a CRT scans the entire screen one pixel at a time, the computer can keep track of the expected time of scanning various locations on screen by the beam and infer the pen's position from the latest timestamp.
Consider me educated.

Analogue tech had some cool tricks.

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>>60102622
This is a motherfucking website, and it's perfect.

http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/

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>coping files between my shitboxes
>transfer speed: 420KB/s

>>60106227

I prefer this one.

http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/

>>60106239
That's pretty good actually

>>60106227
Why not this?

https://thebestmotherfucking.website/

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>>60106239
I love druaga1

Did he ever suck it up and make a Patreon?

Seems like he's on hard times IRL based on his long ass video and his latest few

I don't usually give money to internet autists but Druaga is my boi

>>60106227
>>60106307
Look at this: https://thebestmotherfuckingwebsite.co/
Is this guy serious?

>>60106312
Hes funny, sure, specially if you are a pothead too, but the videos and knowledge are mediocre

>>60106307
>You think your fucking default font is gonna make your website run even on a toaster.
>WRONG, motherfucker.
but it's true, seriously he probably never had to browse the web with just megabytes of RAM and just a dozen megahertz

>>60087096
every winter break in elementary school they'd let me bring one of these home to use.
thanks for the nostalgia!

>>60106347
Druaga doesn't even smoke and never had it's just a meme

>>60106391
He doesn't have to, the humour is still teenager tier pothead humour

>>60106365
>seriously he probably never had to browse the web with just megabytes of RAM and just a dozen megahertz
have you? that's literally just three lines of CSS counting the tag modifier, it doesn't do dick, and more than likely any browser you're running on something that destitute will ignore styling altogether anyway.

>>60106227
Sitefag here, I'm designing a website. What do you think? It's not on the web yet. I'll upload screenshots of other pages if needed.

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>>60106569
Shit, forgot image.

alright >>60100575 here,

got on the phone with one of the managers, says I can come take a look and see if there's anything worth saving whenever.

I'm busy until Monday though. I WILL deliver.

>>60106670
That's great anon!

>>60106585
>It's designed for older
>It might not work with older
fix that shit and it's golden

>>60106585
I'd cut that navigation down into broader categories and make it go horizontal if I were you, that wastes a lot of screen real estate.

I can't really shit on the color scheme, it actually has some potential, you could style the navbar as a black-on-green header and do the same for the footer.

>>60106670
Good luck man, hope you find some good shit.

>>60106516
>have you?
where do you think you are?

then why not style it so the styles work on older computers/browsers too and not bloated shit css which isn't needed for a page like that in the first place, it's literally the "I'm a lazy dev, my time is more important than CPU time"

>>60089221
Those guys knew their machines from the ground up, something that is extremely difficult if not outright impossible in this day and age.

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>>60106687
Here's the list of tested browsers, in case you're curious.

>IE9 doesn't display the Fixedsys font properly

>Netscape Communicator 4.8 displays the page just fine, but the outer part of the border doesn't match the inner part of the border.

>Netscape 7.2 displays text, lines and tables in black.


>>60106690
Thanks for the advice

>>60106809
To clarify, I meant the color of the border.

>>60088155
HAHA DAE LE LONG WATCH?????

>>60106772
>if not outright impossible in this day and age.
Well, you can soon buy yourself a risc-v processor, which will make that pretty much possible again.

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>>60104069
>te quiero mas que nada en el mundo
Guess that was a lie.
>tfw nadie te va a escribir eso

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>>60091646
Jenni Cam.

>>60106965
Yes, this!

See you guys at VCFe in Munich tomorrow.

>>60106961
kek

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>>60106809
Here's my downloads page, still organizing it.

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>>60106990
Here's my Doom downloads page.

>>60106984
Unless I get the chance to stick my dick in a NeXTCUBE it ain't worth it

>>60106984
Are you bifibro?
Have you gone there every year? IIRC you are pretty close to it, are you a player in it?

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>>60107004
Windows Media Player downloads page.

>>60106990
>>60107004
>>60107028
And in case you guys are curious, downloads are hosted externally instead of on the site to save up on space.

>>60106714
>then why not style it so the styles work on older computers/browsers too
Because it's a waste of time that only produces a big block of awful, unmaintainable attribute spam shit you'll hate yourself for spawning every time you have to make changes. Been there, done that, old browsers are fucking trash.

>and not bloated shit css which isn't needed for a page like that in the first place, it's literally the "I'm a lazy dev, my time is more important than CPU time"
...nigger, do you even know what CSS is? It's not Javascript, it's just a bunch of rules in plaintext, it doesn't do dick. Hell, it's probably lighter on resources than the "old way" anyway, since you only have to define a rule once instead of re-implementing it every single time you use it.

I spent a good year trying to maintain a site that looked the same on Netscape 3.0.4 as it looked on the latest version of Firefox or Chrome or whatever the fuck, and all it does is gimp you. Nowadays I design something that maintains proper formatting with no CSS at all and then apply a stylesheet that primarily targets newer systems, with fallbacks for older browsers whenever possible, but in many cases, such as with Internet Explorer, that's never going to happen, and it's not worth it trying to make it so.

>>60107102
>I spent a good year trying to maintain a site that looked the same on Netscape 3.0.4 as it looked on the latest version of Firefox or Chrome or whatever the fuck, and all it does is gimp you.
not the point, don't say your page is perfect and works on anything the same way if it's not, literary the lazy dev scenario again

>>60107123
What are you even talking about? Such a thing is literally impossible.

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>>60107028

>>60107144
>What are you even talking about?
unless you designed the page, I'm not talking about you

>Such a thing is literally impossible.
except it's not

>>60107160
What page? You must have replied to the wrong post.
>except it's not
It certainly is if you're going for something beyond a really basic static page. Browsers are inconsistent and shitty in what they support. You will NEVER be able to develop a page that looks the same across everything.

>>60104531
>>>60104004
I assume you wouldn't be able to get that to work on a modern computer, right?

>>60107189
except >>60106227 already does and >>60106307 implies it's better, even for toasters, while it's not

you are missing the point of it

>>60090452
http://www.4president.us
This group is hosting it, it looks like they copied as much of the site as possible, bought the domain and rehosted it. A lot of features aren't working, like the button creator.

>>60107216
I think the assumption to make in that case was toasters that can still run a semi-current browser, and those that can't aren't going to totally shit themselves in that case.

>>60107156

Those looked bad back in the day and they still look bad. Still, there's some weird nostalgia in them.

>>60089082
Is it still comfy if it's a football?

>>60107004
Chex Quest man

>>60107372
The only one I liked personally was the Kenwood one.

>>60087096
New thread when?

>>60107909
How about right now?

>>60108081
>>60108081
>>60108081

>>60103116
>druaga1
>plugs everything in backward every time

First time I was linked to one of his videos I thought the constant derp was an act