/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

First for Source Mage GNU/Linux

Second for v3 is best GPL.

Xst for fug you

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xth for it is called Linux

>>60026058
And I second this

>>60026058
Second is the best

>>60026137
4U

Hello, fellow Linux brethren.

I have created a free (as in freedom) and open-source

timeleft

utility.

You can review it here:

https://codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/161559/timeleft-utility

#include <string.h> // strcmp
#include <stdio.h> // fopen, fclose, fprintf, fscanf, sscanf
#include <time.h> // time, mktime

#define TIME_PATH "time.txt"

int main(int argc, char **argv) {
    int status = 0;
    if (argc <= 1) {
        FILE *f = fopen(TIME_PATH, "r");
        if (!f) {
            fprintf(stderr, "Could not open time\n");
            status = 1;
        } else {
            long t;
            if (fscanf(f, "%ld", &t) != 1) {
                fprintf(stderr, "Could not read time\n");
                status = 1;
            } else {
                time_t ref = (time_t) t;
                time_t now = time(NULL);
                if (now >= ref) fprintf(stdout, "It's over!\n");
                else printRemainingTime(ref - now);
            }
            fclose(f);
        }
    } else if (argc == 3 && strcmp(argv[1], "set") == 0) {
        int Y, M, D, h, m, s;
        if (sscanf(argv[2], "%d/%d/%d;%d:%d:%d", &Y,&M,&D,&h,&m,&s) != 6) {
            fprintf(stderr, "Invalid time format\n");
        } else if (Y >= 2038) {
            fprintf(stderr, "Do not plan too far ahead!\n");
        } else {
            struct tm t = { s, m, h, D, M - 1, Y - 1900, -1, -1, -1 };
            time_t ut = mktime(&t);
            if (ut < 0) {
                fprintf(stderr, "Parsing/range error\n");
                status = 1;
            } else {
                FILE *f = fopen(TIME_PATH, "w");
                if (!f) {
                    fprintf(stderr, "Failed to save time\n");
                    status = 1;
                } else {
                    fprintf(f, "%ld", (long) ut);
                    fclose(f);
                }
            }
        }
    } else {
        fprintf(stderr, "Usage: ");
        if (argv[0]) fprintf(stderr, "%s ", argv[0]);
        fprintf(stderr, "[set YYYY/MM/DD;hh:mm:ss]\n");
    }
    return status;
}

>>60026105
Because zsh is better?

If you're gonna have to replace your shell anyway, might as well replace it with a superior one.

static void printRemainingTime(time_t t) {
    const char *s = "%d days, %d hours, %d minutes, %d seconds remaining...\n";
    int days = t / 86400; t -= days * 86400;
    int hours = t / 3600; t -= hours * 3600;
    int minutes = t / 60; t -= minutes * 60;
    int seconds = t;
    fprintf(stdout, s, days, hours, minutes, seconds);   
}

Devuan is 1.0 RC.

>>60026164
>>60026197
>>60026205
Hello there, glad to meet a brogrammer.

>>60026202
I wouldn't count with zshit being better thou, the xd program does enough fancy autocomplete and fzf is a bretty good fuzzy finder too.

>>60026208
Fukken finally, downloading now.

>>60026208
I was hoping they keep the torrent option.

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>>60026137
http://gplv3.fsf.org/static/release/rms_gplv3_launch_high_quality.ogg

>>60026251
>fzf
nice

What's the best audio player on linux and pls don't say cmus

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>>60026362

>>60026391
GNU/Linux*

What is the best antivirus for Linux?

>>60026391
I mean music player actually

>>60026391
mpv

Reposting this.
What is a good replacement for Unity for someone with a HiDPI display?

>>60026405
sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi

Does devuan use debian's repos or it's own?

If any Devuan maintainer is reading this, BRING BACK THE TORRENT PLEASE

>>60026391
I like MOC myself, easy and quick and fast and daemonized (you can discnnect from the client). But there are three music players you could check if you want a GUI:
DeaDBeeF if you want to customize
Clementine if you want a fuckton of features
Audacious with the non-native winamp skin if you want a comfy player with retro feeling

>>60026414
KDE

>>60026417
Its own, but you can add other repos of course

>>60026415
>doesn't realize that iwlwifi isn't the only wifi driver

>>60026421
moc <3
was my first player before mpd autism.
really liked that it works without library.

>tried to install solus
>every time I clicked login it would crash my monitor
>couldn't even get to the menu to adjust any graphics options
>fucked my windows bootloader
>spent 3 hours fixing it

how do I not fuck up this time

running an i5 with a gtx1060 if it matters

>>60026414
You don't need a replacement, UBports has committed itself to keep developing Unity.

>>60026444
>really liked that it works without library.
You sir are a patrician

>>60026458
>UBports has committed itself to keep developing Unity
>KEEP DEVELOPING UNITY
But when will they commit sudoku too?

>>60026391
mpd (with mpc and ncmpcpp)

>>60026405
noscript, ublock, firejail, ufw + common sense

>>60026391
mpd+sonata

>>60026470
s/noscript/umatrix/

>>60026503
what are the advantages of umatrix?

>>60026503
this

>>60026517
more than just an adblocker, you can be sure of that

>>60026470
>>60026503
>using javascript

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>>60026391
deadbeef if you like album art
mpd+ some mpd client if you dont

>>60026517
Better interface(once you get used to it).
Can also block things like iframes

>>60026544
>using the internet
>>60026547
>implying you cant have album art with literally any player

>>60026544
is javascript inherently bad?

>>60026578
nope, is just a russian roulette

>>60026578
he's baiting

disabling js makes no sense (unless you're using tor)

>>60026591
>he
I'm a gurl.

>>60026591
no he is not baiting, he has a point, you can't possibly examine every javascript that enters your computer and only LibreJS is close to do something like that

>>60026604
really darling? you don't know who we are neither, on the internet nobody knows you are a dog

>>60026604
m-me too

>>60026578
>>60026591

true patricians whitelist domains on a per-site basis using uMatrix. you trade off an initial 10 seconds getting some pages to work initially but it's 100% worth it.

>>60026622
kill yourself for replying to @60026604 unironically

>>60026640
friendly thread

>>60026647
pardon me

>>60026640
>implying

>>60026677
>implying implications

>>60026683
>implying implying implications
sure you want 2 do this?

>>60026391
mplayer.

>>60026563
>implying you cant have album art with literally any player
a fixed size 2"x2" square in the bottom left doesnt count.
Neither does using w3m for viewing the image given that its broken and doesnt render it correctly most of the time.
Neither does a script that only works with The-One-I'm-Using-WM.
Deadbeef is literally the only one that lets you do whats in that pic, short of using shitty broken image rendering with w3m in tmux or a speical snowflake wm script, again.

Just found out about ~/.inputrc, so I thought I'd post what I've put together here.
Maybe someone will find it useful.

# Incremental search
"\e[A": history-search-backward
"\e[B": history-search-forward
"\e[C": forward-char
"\e[D": backward-char

# Completion options
set completion-ignore-case on
#set completion-query-items -1
set show-all-if-ambiguous on
set colored-completion-prefix on
set colored-stats on
#tab:menu-complete
#"\e[Z":menu-complete-backward

# Alt+h to view the man page for the given command
"\eh": "\C-a\eb\ed\C-y\e#man \C-y\C-m\C-p\C-p\C-a\C-d\C-e"

#set editing-mode vi
#set keymap vi-command

>>60026742
'"\es":"sudo !!\C-m"'

>>60026757
>Alt+s calls the prior command with sudo
nice, you don't need to put the single quotes around it if you're not using it with bind though

>>60026742
>.inputrc
Holy shit, thanks for this, any guide?

>>60026900
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/readline

>>60026935
Thanks

>>60026935
i'm always wondering: do people who use set -o vi really exist?

why does fish lack of && and || ?

>>60027040
Is this true or is this bait (pun intended)? Can't be that shit, right?

>>60027040
fish has just different syntax:

&& equals to ; and
|| equals to ; or

>>60026900
make sure to include the global file, because it will not be read automatically if the local is present
put this in your ~/.inputrc

$include /etc/inputrc

>>60027064
thanks

>>60027071
That is fucking awesome, I was thinking on using readline to hack together a file manager and this fits in that.

Want to install gentoo cause why not.
open vm
10gb disk size
do install
Out of space
ok
20gb
out of space
ok
50gb
out of space

What is this nonsense?

>>60027108
>file manager
*fuzzy finder, not yet a file manager

>>60027108
be sure to post it here under GPL

>>60027126
Yes, GPLv3, but is going to be a long wait

>>60027117
bentoo :DD

>>60027140
>imblying xD

just found this really nice site: http://hyperpolyglot.org/unix-shells

>>60027205
I just recently installed FreeBSD and was trying to figure out tsch
it's pretty bad, I'll probably use the opportunity to try out zsh

>>60027285
tcsh*

>>60026197
>if if else if
Re do it

>>60027339
Hi!

>>60026032
Nobody said anything yet to OP's pic but is damn important, thanks OP.

Is this where I go to take the /g/ redpill? I would like to. Dunno where to even start with the distribution links.

>>60027372
It isn't.

>>60027364
Hello

>>60027411
>pretending to be mr kde shill
lame

>>60027364
What's up?

>>60027450
trying to make feh usable

>>60027485
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/feh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOIZlOEfb8

>>60027524
meh this is next level shit
fehwrap:

#!/bin/sh 

for i in `seq 1 $#`; do
    [ "${!i}" = '-F' ] && { fs=0; break; }
done

feh --thumbnails \
    --cache-thumbnails \
    --thumb-height 256 \
    --thumb-width 256 \
    --limit-width 1600 \
    --image-bg black \
    --scroll-step 150 \
    --action1 ';''[Copy filepath]''echo -n "$PWD/%n" | xclip' \
    --action2 ';''[Set wallpaper]'"feh --bg-fill %F" \
    --action3 ';''[Add to list]''! grep -q %F feh.list && echo %F >> feh.list' \
    --action4 ';''[Remove from list]'"sed -i '/%n/d' feh.list" \
    --action ';''[Open image]'"~/bin/fehwrap.d/Fehwrap.sh %L %F &" \
    $([ -z "$fs" ] && echo -n "\
        --limit-width 1000 \
        --thumb-height 200 \
        --thumb-width 200 \
        `#-g 1000x500` \
        --bg ~/.config/feh/bg.png \
        `#--action ';''feh %F &'` \
        `#--zoom fill` \
        --title fehw \
    ") \
    "$@"

Fehwrap.sh:

#!/bin/sh

if [ ${2: -4} == ".gif" ]; then
    index=$(grep .gif $1 | grep -n "$2" | cut -d : -f 1)
    index=$((index-1))
    mpv $(grep .gif $1) \
        --playlist-start=$index \
        --fullscreen \
        --loop \
        --loop-file=yes \
        --video-unscaled=yes
else
    feh --filelist $1 \
        --start-at "$2" \
        --image-bg black \
        --fullscreen \
        --info ';''echo -n "Size: "; identify -format "%wx%h" %F' \
        --action1 ';''[Copy filepath]''echo -n "$PWD/%n" | xclip' \
        --action2 ';''[Set wallpaper]'"feh --bg-fill \"$2\"" \
        --action3 ';''[Add to list]''! grep -q %F feh.list && echo %F >> feh.list' \
        --action4 ';''[Remove from list]'"sed -i '/%n/d' feh.list"
fi

I just need a way to combine these two into one script

>>60027581
eh? create a new .sh file and add those commands accordingly.

I suggest that you create a binary for it. Like your custom front end of feh

>>60027633
What distro/DE are you using now Mr Shill?

>>60027654
Ubuntu Budgie currently. I'll eventually move to another distro soon.

>>60027633
it's mostly just options, there's no reason to create a binary

the problem is that functions from the same file are invisible to feh actions
it would be perfect if I could make the second file a function and instead of

 --action ';''[Open image]'"~/bin/fehwrap.d/Fehwrap.sh %L %F &" \

use

 --action ';''[Open image]'"funct %L %F &" \

or if I could just quote the commands properly within the action, but that's impossible because I have so many nested quotes

>>60027678
whatever you do, stop using DE's

Okay so following the "Babbies first Linux" instructions and I already hit a wall with Virtual Box when I have to select some kind of .iso. What .iso file?

>>60027697
Not all that familiar with scripting anon, sorry I can't help
>>60027714
DEs are ok

>>60027749
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=installing+ubuntu+in+virtualbox

any got any recs for a book that will give me a comprehensive foundation for *nix tools? i've been using linux for years so i don't need a starter text. for example, i know how to connect to someone's SSH server, but i don't know pretty much anything else about it. preferable something comfy

>>60027798
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

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how do I get my desktop to look like this

>>60027826
get a similar autism first

>have windows 10
>make antergos live USB
>try to install antergos in dual boot
>GRUB not showing windows
>grub-mkconfig doesn't detect windows
>can't boot windows at all
help bros

>>60028124
Did you delete windows?

>>60027826
Start sucking cocks.

>>60028161
nah, windows partition is still there and I can even access the files

during the antergos installation it installed in UEFI mode, but my windows is installed in BIOS-MBR mode, and I know antergos should've installed in BIOS-MBR mode

don't know what to do

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Are there any firewalls for GNU/Linux like Little Snitch that lets me allow/deny connections on a host or port basis per-application?

https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html

What browser lads? Firefox, ESR, something different? I want to be able to install add-ons and not get told my version is incompatible.

So the biggest question I have for this whole GNU/Linux business is what this rabbit hole can do for me. What can I do with all of this?

>>60027826
Become a NEET.

>>60028228
Windows 10 doesn't work with anything but UEFI.

I'm running i3 on Arch and I'm configuring my workspaces to use chars from the FontAwesome package. I'm wondering how I can keep the listed workspaces at the bottom in the right order without having to put a number in front of them. I like it being just the icon and not a number then the icon. Are there some sort of zero width characters that I can put in front of them in place of numbers so they'll stay in order, or some other workaround?

Package for reference: https://github.com/FortAwesome/Font-Awesome/releases
Cheat Sheet: https://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/cheatsheet/

>>60028407
Well, what do you want to do with it? There is software to do all kinds of things.

>>60028606
but the arch wiki said if it says Legacy under system info you have a BIOS-MBR installation

>>60028682
I dunno, cool computer stuff I guess.
What do people on here use it for?
I'm a 20 year old SE student that eventually wants to make video games for a living, but on my own time I also want to experiment with AI and engineering in general.
Right now I'm just experimenting.

>>60028689
Things changed, I think the newer versions of windows 10 are not compatible

>>60028712
anyway, reinstalling antergos rn no clue what to do

Have any of you a solution to kill the screen tearing in firefox (other than uninstalling it)? Whenever I use smooth scrolling there is a huge line of screen tearing that rolls down. I tried disabling hardware accel but no results.

>>60028726
use different drives for the two OSes. Windows 10 doesn't like any other OSes installed in parallel

>>60028726
Screen tearing happens due to inefficient drivers and weak GPUs. Wayland is a bit more laggy imo so you should try GNOME in wayland

>>60028726
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/how-to-an-update-on-fixing-screen-tearing-on-linux-with-an-nvidia-gpu.8892

>>60028751
>win10
You have the wrong anon.

>>60026704

Kill yourself.
There are plenty of MPD clients which can display album art.

>he thinks there are only TUI mpd clients

>>60028703
Have you ever used linux before? You should jump in feet first and try it. Make a VM on whatever OS you use currently and remember to bend your knees when you land or your legs will jam up inside your body like the people who jumped on 9/11.

>>60028945
Currently what I'm doing, as per instructions at the top of the thread.
Installing lubuntu. All I see is just another OS, tho, I just wanna know what I can DO with it.

>>60028945
>Make a VM
Don't be a pussy.

Just installed Debian.
Whenever I try to install a new package the shell gives me the following error.
Media change: please insert the disc labeled
'Debian GNU/Linux 8.7.1 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20170116-11:01'
in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter

How do I solve this?

>>60029039
try: sudo apt-get update

>>60029039
>>60029137
shit no, go into your sources.list first and comment out the reference to the installation medium. THEN do sudo apt-get update.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/280463/debian-apt-get-install-asks-for-the-dvd-binary

Should I use mtp, or just adb push/pull to transfer files between my android device and my PC?

>>60029205
use mtp (jmtpfs and simple-mtpfs are nice)

Is there a way to post here with links/lynx, or w3m?

>>60029222
buy a 4chan pass because there's no way to make captchas work in text browsers

>>60029205
I believe mtp directly mounts the storage, which would be an advantage. At least it's easier to do things like move and rename files.

>>60026445
>how do I not fuck up this time
By installing a distro that isn't a stupid meme. Budgie can be installed elsewhere, Solus is so utterly pointless.

>>60029156
Dumb question, but sources.list doesn't have write access. How do I edit it?

>>60029370

# chmod 644 /etc/apt/sources.list
# chattr -i /etc/apt/sources.list
# vim /etc/apt/sources.list

Is there a(n easy)way to get the non-meme file picker if I'm using xfce?

>>60029517
seconding this

>>60029517
Is there anything wrong with thunar? It does everything I want from a file manager, with optional volume management. It even has thumbnails. Otherwise, nautilus is OK but requires a lot of gnome bloat. Pcmanfm is fine, identical to thunar in my experience. I use ranger or just cli 90% of the time. If you like qt dolphin is also good.

Why the fuck. Does xsetroot -soild #3A6EA5 throw the help text after me, instead of doing what it is supposed to be doing?

So I want to install Arch on an old laptop I got lying around and I want to know if I should start by installing it in a VM first to practice or would the process be too different?

>>60029517

For which program do you need it? If it's for Firefox, give up, because Firefox switched to GTK3 long ago.
I also suggest you stop using the word meme as an universal word and stop adding to to every word to describe things.

>>60029761
1: the install is probably just as easy on the hardware as on a VM, unless you have ultra special hardware (like a wireless card with no kernel drivers available).
2: don't install Arch. It's garbage. Use Void instead, if you want something that's actually simple, actually minimal and much more secure, with more competent developers.

>>60029737

Because you didn't specify what you want to be solid, foreground, background or something else.

>>60029785

>he thinks everyone is using arch because they want something "minimal"
Kill yourself.

>>60026251
>>60026384
use fzy goys

>>60029813
what are you using arch for? Literally the only good thing about is the AUR's abundance of packages, but a huge number of those packages are abandoned and/or broken.

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>>60029722
Literally the only things I dislike about thunar are that it doesn't place filenames with [] in them at the top of the list when sorted by alphabetical and that it doesn't, I'm not sure what this is actually called so I'll say what it looks like, word-wrap the filenames so if there's a big one it'll leave massive gaps underneath every other file or folder in the row like this.

Also the file picker thing. I just can't get used to no thumbnails.
>>60029780
FUCK

Do I need to just switch browsers? I don't want to but I'm not particularly attached to Firefox if there's a better alternative with the same kind of privacy-concious add-ons.

>>60029841
Desktop thread screenshots, retard

How can I execute a shell script within ranger, in the directory that I'm in?

Can anyone help me get an iso of oracle enterprise linux?

>>60029844
I can't reproduce that word wrapping thing, and why don't you have a font installed that can display whatever those missing characters are?
Also I'm not sure what you mean by files having [], but there is actually an environment variable that changes the language used when sorting files, I have mine set to LC_COLLATE=ja_JP.utf8 for example.

>>60029841

Why do you assume I use Arch?
People use Arch because it's one of the reasonable handful of "core" distributions. People use it because they like its release schedule, package manager and software related policies. It applies for every distribution.
Only idiots like you think the AUR or a similar service is a reason to use a distribution or because it's "minimal". It would help if you contained your idiocy and stopped posting retarded things like that.

>>60029722

I used Thunar and switched to something else because:

>it doesn't remember per directory views
>there was an annoying bug (the copy/move one) which was only fixed recently

Nemo satisfied both functions for me.

>>60029844

Compile Firefox yourself with GTK2 support (while they still offer it) or try that potentially buggy KDE patch which makes it use KDE's file dialog. Alternatively learn to live with it until GTK3's file dialog gets reworked. There are sketches for it, but still no work.

>>60029967
>"Core" distribution
What does that mean?

What's an easy to use CLI or curses torrent client?

>>60029997

One of the few distributions which DO something different, are big and which have no "upstream" distribution. Think Debian, Gentoo, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Slackware. I even count Ubuntu there, despite being a Debian derivative.

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>>60029957
The missing characters are just nonsense from a random character string generator site I was copy and pasting from to demonstrate what I was talking about, they showed up fine on the site. What I mean is that something with a filename like this would usually be at the top of the folder, while still in alphabetical order except they would be considered seperate to the rest of the files, so filenames like [A].jpg [D].jpg [X].jpg would be grouped together at the beginning of the list yet still in alphabetical order. Now they just get listed as thought the [ ] isn't even there.

You may be onto something there, considering the behavior I'm talking about was on Windows 7 which I had my locale set to Japanese on. What exactly would I need to do besides editing locale.conf and generating a new one to be able to select it before starting a session at my display manager?

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>>60026032
Should I move from Debian to arch. I'm feeling bad that I cant use OBS and I don't have ffmpeg.

>>60030014
rtorrent

>>60030151
why don't you just install ffmpeg from source on debian?

>>60029899
maybe ! is the solution

>>60029919
it's a free download from edelivery.oracle.com

>>60030151

>don't have ffmpeg
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ffmpeg&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all

>>60030102
Well first you'd just want to make sure you have the locales you want:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/locale

So for example if you just want to test out the one I mentioned type:
>locale -a
and see if you have ja_JP.utf8 in the list. If not then follow the guide above to generate that locale. Once you have it you can run thunar with it using
>LC_COLLATE=ja_JP.utf8 thunar

Make it permanent by setting it in your .bashrc or .profile or whatever, but you'll have to re-login.

en_US.utf8 doesn't seem to sort in a very intelligent way. Despite being utf8 it seems to just ignore a lot of important characters when sorting.

>>60030310
Adding to what I wrote in case it wasn't clear.
LC_COLLATE and your default locale are separate things.
I'm using LANG=en_US.utf8 by default, but ja_JP.utf8 for LC_COLLATE because it sorts better.

Is there *really* a purpose to switching to a Linux distribution?

I understand the whole Windows thing but are they any superior aspects that a normie might consider worth it to switch?

Furthermore, is it better to just use it in a virtual machine or any benefit to putting it on the actual computer?

>>60030310
How to fix sort

env LC_COLLATE=C sort

>>60030362
Linux is faster and safer. Linux is more user friendly if the user is a coder.

my friend is pushing me towards arch linux, is that a bad choice? i've used ubuntu, gentoo and debian in the past but i'm not sure which distros are considered good and which are not.

>>60030473

>apparently used multiple distributions for a long period of time
>apparently a power use who had a use for gentoo
>still asks a retarded question which someone with such a history should know

How about you stop being a liar on the internet? What do you get out of this? Does it make you feel smart when you ask retarded questions like that?

just use fedora
you get competent developers and updates that don't break

>>60030362
Fuck me, I just typed up a fairly long paragraph response and accidentally hit the back button on my mouse and lost it all.
I don't feel like re-listing any of the shit I already typed so I'll just take it in a whole other direction because fuck it.

There's a reason every website you ever visit, just about every super-computer or computing cluster in the world, are running unix based operating systems.
Even >90% of all big budget hollywood movies with all their CGI graphics and 3D animations are done on Linux.

Windows isn't even a question for those who know what they're doing. The only place Windows has ever dominated was on the desktop machines of the masses who are too dumb to see past advertising. (and no that's not paranoid boogeyman talk, did you know MS actually gimped OpenGL on windows machines a long time ago as part of a campaign to push DirectX and make everyone think OpenGL sucked?)
Anyone who actually thinks Windows is even close to adequate in any area other than gaming software is simply a victim of its advertising

>>60025754
>fonts
>arch
https://github.com/bohoomil/fontconfig-ultimate/issues/191#issuecomment-289799221
get liberation symbola and microhei
noto craps infinality configs, if you remove it sans defaults to liberation so "arial" is now much better

>>60030362
if you like code or automation, linux is cool.

if you like using weird programs some random guy wrote on github you can install it in 1-3 commands and be mildly sure it's not riddled with malware.

if you NEED powerpoint and excel and photoshop and other normie shit it's not worth it. But you could probably prop a normie up on a modern linux distro and open and browser and they wouldn't complain either.

>>60030697
MS does actually make incredible professional tools, even their cloud integration is nice, too bad about their OS though.

>>60030561

The software developers for Firefox are the same on every distribution. They are the same for every piece of software that's not made for the distribution. That's usually the package manager and few other software which makes up less than 1% of the software you use.

>>60030777
It's not a comment about their talent, it's just what happens with any entity whose sole purpose is to make money.

There's so much they could fix but because their target audience is tech illiterate they honestly wouldn't make a cent doing so.
There was an employee that wrote a letter about how stifling it is to work there and how even if they actually DO write patches it just creates more work for others so it's discouraged and nobody wants to change the status quo.

I'm sure when they have to write tools for people who are actually somewhat tech literate they do a better job, because they definitely have the talent. It's just a question of whether it makes/loses them money in the end.

#!/bin/sh -e

case "$(uname)" in
    "CYGWIN_NT-"* | "Linux")
        RECFLAG=-R
        FIXLINK=no;;
    "OpenBSD")
        RECFLAG=-RP
        FIXLINK=yes;;
    *)
        echo "$(basename "$0"): unknown os \"$(uname)\", can not set \
RECFLAG" >&2
        false;;
esac

mkpubdirs () {
    if [ "$1" != "$HOME" ]
    then
        mkpubdirs "$(dirname "$1")"
    fi
    chmod go=u-w "$1"
}

mkpub () {
    if ( [ -f "$1" ] || [ -d "$1" ] ) && [ ! -h  "$1" ]
    then
        echo "publishing $(ls -dF "$1")"
        mkpubdirs "$(dirname "$1")"
        chmod $RECFLAG go=u-w "$1"
    fi
}

echo "locking $(env -i "$(which ls)" -dF "$HOME")"
chmod $RECFLAG a-st,go= "$HOME"
chown $RECFLAG $(id -u):$(id -g) "$HOME"

mkpub "$HOME/.bash_aliases"
mkpub "$HOME/.bash_profile"
mkpub "$HOME/.bashrc"
mkpub "$HOME/.emacs"
mkpub "$HOME/.emacs.d/lisp"
mkpub "$HOME/.i3status.conf"
mkpub "$HOME/.inputrc"
mkpub "$HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys"
mkpub "$HOME/.ssh/config"
mkpub "$HOME/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
mkpub "$HOME/.ssh/known_hosts"
mkpub "$HOME/.xinitrc"
mkpub "$HOME/.xresources"
mkpub "$HOME/.xsession"

if [ "$FIXLINK" = "yes" ]
then
    echo "fixing symbolic links"
    find "$HOME" -type l -exec chmod -h 0777 {} \;
fi

Why can't I pipe find into find?

find ! -iname ".txt" | find -iname "kek.mp3"

Basically I want to list all files not ending in .txt, and then all files that aren't "kek.mp3".

>>60031156

find . -type f ! -iname \*.txt | grep -v kek.mp3

>>60031156
use something like find . \( ! -iname ".txt" -a ! -iname "kek.mp3" )\

>>60031156
>>60031180
Not a good solution if you want to work with -exec. `find` can work with OR statements.

find . - type f -not -name "*.txt" -not -name "kek.mp3"

>>60031223
You're right anon.

>>60031208

That 's neat. But is there an explanation why piping find into another one doesn't work? One comment on Stackoverflow says find can't read from stdin, but I can't find anything regarding that in the man page of find.

>>60031237
find is really ugly, pretty sure it only works on the directory stat or whatever.

>>60031237
Not completely sure and can't be bother to actual fact check it but I think find only works with directories and you first output are only files.

Anyone know how the fuck to find out what packages have pulled in another one?

Trying to install a minimal Fedora install and it keeps on pulling in fedora-release-notes...

Relatively new to Perl, I want to list the contents of a directory, but only print the files that contain '.pl' in them, not exactly how to make it work though, I have so far:

#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;

my $dir = "(directory)";

opendir (D, $dir);
    my @file = readdir(D);
closedir (D);

if (@file) {
    foreach (@file) {
#    next if $_ !~ /[.pl]/;
    print ("$_\n");
}}

not entirely sure where i've gone wrong, doesn't print anything if i uncomment that line.

>>60032042
Why perl?

I have 2 displays. The big one is being cropped to only have the same size as the smallest one (not scaled). How to fix?

>>60032205
arandr

>>60032210
it still gets cropped when i disable the small display in arandr or use --off with xrandr

>>60032074
what do you suggest anon?

>>60032264
Do you set the position correctly? Can you share a screenshot of your arandr configuration?

Maybe you have to configure your monitor, and it's not Linux fault.

>>60032275
To use arandr.

>>60032293
I want to use Perl to open all files with the .pl in it and replace the starting line to make all the scripts work on FreeBSD. I don't think arandr will help here anon.

>>60032315
Sorry. I confuse the (you).

>>60032315
Maybe

#!/usr/bin/env perl

works almost everywhere (I am looking at you android)

>>60027372
It's really dumb. Who's going to pay for R&D if someone else is going to run away with the idea and isn't burdened by said R&D investments.

>>60029737
# marks the beginning of a comment :^)

>>60032275
Why not bash?

for file in `ls *pl`
  print $file
end

>>60032435
didn't think about that. cheers anon

>>60032042
im not entirely sure on perl regex syntax but /.+\.pl/ should probably work

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>>60032435
>`ls *pl`

>>60032435
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs

>>60032458
yeah that one sorted it
thanks anon

>>60027826
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

>>60032475
>>60032462

for file in `find . -type -name "*.pl"`; do
  echo $file
done

:^)

Guys I need a help.. I've been using Ubuntu 15.10 for a while now. But need to upgrade to 16.04.2LTS..
Is there any way to upgrade it, without downloading a new image and installing..??

>>60032808
Did you even bother searching for a solution?

>>60032808

do-release-upgrade

good thread

>>60033080
good post

Should I care about Fedora and CentOS ?
I'm starting to get comfortable with Debian and co, is this worth it to go with Fedora on a new laptop to test it ?

Also why is CentOS so popular ?

>>60033255
CentOS is an exact copy of Red Hat Linux which is used in professional work environments. Fedora is released by Red Hat and is where they test a lot of new technology. Thus why it is called bleeding edge. I am using Fedora GNOME 25. It's great. Just use the previous one or current one as of now Fedora 25. Not the latest one (Fedora 26).

CentOS is a server OS. Fedora is for desktops and workstations.

>>60028234
uncomplicated firewall can do that, but patricians use iptables

>>60029824
>fzy
Is written in C! I love you!!

>>60030014
transmission-remote-cli is lightyears better than anything else and also a lot easier to set

>>60030362
Yes

>>60030561
No

>>60033353
Sorry, the question should be
Why Red Hat is so popular on pro servers ?
Only for the support ?

What's so different between Fedora and let's say Ubuntu ? Besides the RPM vs DEB packages.

>>60026208
>>60026251
>>60026328
Will there be another RC or is next the final release?

>>60033371
>not using aria2

How do I remove GNU from a stock Arch Linux install?

>>60033744

sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root $GNU/

It just works.

>>60033842
valve pls

I'd like to combine Proxmox and OpenMediaVault. They're both Debian.

Can you build an installer from the files located at https://github.com/openmediavault/openmediavault ?

>>60033406
>Only for the support ?
yeah.

how do i git gud at linux? I don't understand shit. I used ubuntu and even arch based distros before and now I'm using void which I installed with a lot of help and I don't know shit like file permissions and filesystems stuff

>>60033188
good goy

>>60034167
GNU/Linux*

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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-sitting-too-close-to-screen-making-you-blind/
Myopia can develop from too much 'near work', focusing intently on text, such as constantly trying to read small fonts.

Stop using that tiny bitmap font.

>>60034167
The super easy way is to watch a couple videos from youtube or download this >>>/t/764046

>>60034083
So what's the point of CentOS or Fedora ?
Looks like you have more packages and more help on a DEB distro.

>>60033961
This is why I use stripped down distros like Devuan netinstall and then install all the programs that I know instead of preconfigured distros which tools have the risk of being too integrated to be mixed together.
The hard part is to know exactly the names of the programs that I want, install them by separate is not so hard.

Check Webmin to see what I mean.

>>60034300
Fedora is the opposite of having RHEL, in that distro YOU are the the support, despite what anyone else tell you after my post. Fedora is a beta test distro, full with bugs.

CentOS on the other hand is a copy of RHEL without the trademark. But while RHEL is sold and comes with support, CentOS is free to download but no support. Remember that RHEL is a "product from RedHat" which is sold (the tech support from the company).

>>60034300
>So what's the point of CentOS or Fedora ?

Fedora is the upstream version where majority of the development happens. It has a release cycle of 6 months.
EOL'd Fedora version goes through the period of testing and becomes RHEL and is sold as a commercial product.
Then RHEL is taken by a community group lead by redhat employees, strips RHEL from redhat copyrighted content (names, logos and such) and puts out CentOS to be downloaded, used, developed by anyone.

>>60034383
>>60034391
Well it looks like Fedora is more for beta testing RHEL than common usage if you put like this.

So we came back for my first question :
Why would you use CentOS and/or Fedora if you don't have the support from RedHat ?
I'm currently trying Debian and Fedora in a VM and they feels similar, besides APT-GET and DNF, and more results for Debian questions on Google and co.
DNF looks cleaner, but that's all.

The end of the line will be to decide which destro I will use for a Seafile server, a distro to put on my laptop and one on my gf laptop (she wants to remove Win10 from her existence forever).

>>60034469
>Why would you use CentOS and/or Fedora if you don't have the support from RedHat ?
https://youtu.be/K9PJImi0Vn0

when someone purchases a rhel distro, is he allowed to share it?

>>60034547
share what?

You don't purchase RHEL.
You purchase a subscription that allows you to log in into a piece of software that ships with rhel and obtain support from it.

>>60034167

>doesn't understand file permissions
>apparently needs to use void

Just another poser.

>>60034609
i see, thanks

Is Void the new Arch?

>>60034636
No. Its Void.

>>60034636
as in meme?
not really, nowhere as prolific as arch

>>60034618
Yeah, I don't need Void and could just use an Ubuntu distro if I wanted to. But would that solve my problem of not knowing file permissions? No, nothing would change. I decided to use Void because of the convenience of knowing someone personally who does to help me with it. It was also the best solution at the time for issues I had for my previous OS.

>>60034720

Which Void specific things fixed your issues with your previous distribution?

>>60034732
It had nothing to do with Void specifically and more about just doing a proper installation of an OS. It was just convenient that I had someone to help me through with it and I didn't really want to go back to Ubuntu based distros nor did I want to learn how to install Arch on my own.

>>60034167
>masturbate to anime girls

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>>60034789
>proper installation of an OS
???

>>60034789
Debian based*

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>>60034852
Don't worry about it. I had some issues and the simple act of going through the Void install fixed it. There's nothing more to say.

what is /fglt/s recommended distro?

>>60034884
gentoo

>>60034884
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>on GNU/Linux
>have standardised logging utilities, directories and formats
>90% of programs still don't fucking log anything
why the FUCK is this allowed

figuring out why one or the other program crashed or malfunctioned is close to impossible

>>60034884
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>60034901
>>60034996
hmmm

Fins are the purest whites, bow down to your masters.

>>60034956

Which program doesn't log?

>>60035110
The purpose of cat is to concatenate (or catenate) files. If it is only one file, concatenating it with nothing at all is a waste of time, and costs you a process.

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Copyleft is a form of intellectual property, you goon. Even Stallman acknowledges this.

The one and true non-IP license is copyfree or, if you're lucky enough, the entering of content into the Public Domain.

>>60035178
I can afford to buy games instead. Safe from the comprehensiveness as a replacement for my aging Galaxy S5. I need to get 8 more.

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>>60035178
Publishers and lawyers like to describe copyright as “intellectual property”—a term also applied to patents, trademarks, and other more obscure areas of law. These laws have so little in common, and differ so much, that it is ill-advised to generalize about them. It is best to talk specifically about “copyright,” or about “patents,” or about “trademarks.”

The term “intellectual property” carries a hidden assumption—that the way to think about all these disparate issues is based on an analogy with physical objects, and our conception of them as physical property.

When it comes to copying, this analogy disregards the crucial difference between material objects and information: information can be copied and shared almost effortlessly, while material objects can't be.

To avoid spreading unnecessary bias and confusion, it is best to adopt a firm policy not to speak or even think in terms of “intellectual property”. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html

Does anyone know why baka-mplayer would look grainey and riddled with artifacts out of the box? I'm using a pretty fresh arch install so I might be missing some kind of codec or setting.

The videos Im trying to watch looked better on windows, hell looked better on my phone

>>60035261
I'm on Arch if it matters.

>>60035261
>im using a pretty fresh arch install
>>60035300
im on arch if it matters


is it fresh or not?

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>>60034884

>>60034490
Well I guess I'll stick with DEB distros for now.

>>60035325

the post below mine wasn't me, I don't know why he posted that

Yes, Im on a fresh arch install

>>60035374
I'm on Arch aswell, sup

>>60035374
>he
what makes you think that anon is a guy?

>>60035371
Sane choice. Unless for some reason you are both
>unable to pay for a rhel subscription
>need an absofuckinglutely mission critical system like your life depended on it

chosing ubuntu and debian is the way to go.
Larger repositories and larger community make life easier

>>60035400
Indeed, it looks like someone hasn't seen https://archwomen.org/ and still thinks that women aren't badass enough to use arch

How hard is gentoo to mantain? If I have a simple system with a WM, a browser, a text editor, mpv and basically not much else, how much time do I have to spend to maintain it?
I have used arch in the past, and it was basically configure once and forget. I just had to update regularly (and it was a simple pacman -Syu and that was it).

I don't care much about the initial setup time.

I try to make a bootable BSD flash disk with dd on ubuntu, but it happens in less than a second and doesn't write to the disk at all. what do i do?
i use this line:

root@(hostname):/home/user/# dd if=FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-amd64-mini-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb
612994+0 records in
612994+0 records out
313852928 bytes (314 MB, 299 MiB) copied, 0.520695 s, 603 MB/s

>>60035445
compiling your browser will take some hours, that said, there are binary drop ins, that said, when you use binaries, theres no point in gentoo

>>60035445
as hard as running

emerge --sync --quiet
emerge -avDuN world --keep-going

Sometimes you might run in dependency problems that can be fixed by not updating a package or unmasking a package version.

>>60035455
write cache kicked in yo
in terminal run sync (user doesn't matter, you can run it as normal user)
when the command is finished you can remove the flash drive

>>60035463
some hours? ouch. And I was thinking of running it in VM too...

>>60035475
well, only large things like window system and a browser will take that long, other stuff compiles faster

>>60035475
some hours for chromium
firefox takes 35-40 minutes on my machine (i5-750, ssd, not a vm), it's a pretty old cpu, yours probably won't be worse. Running in a vm will take its toll of course, but it shouldn't be too much

>>60035506
>but it shouldn't be too much
I mean: as long as you enable VM to use all CPU cores, parallelization with MAKEFLAGS scales compile times pretty well

>>60035463
>that said, when you use binaries, theres no point in gentoo

please, using the FF and libreoffice binary packages because they take THAT much to compile won't defeat the purpose of gentoo especially when your other few hundred packages are all optimized for your system.

Trying to revive my old Dell D610, Point Linux or LXLE?

I also have Suse Enterpise 12 sitting in my drawer (server and dekstop) but I doubt it will run on this old poc.

>>60026742
note that some of these might already be in /etc/inputrc, and just commented out (and/or same keys mapped to other options.)

>>60035693
>Dell D610
12 year old. My main machine is almost that old and I use debian stable.

But If you just want to play with it a bit i recommend puppy linux.

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>>60029785
don't use a distro with all packages under the sun available, use a distro with 4 dozen packages available.

>>60035838
>all packages under the sun
nope, not offical packages, aur is community and insecure

>>60035874
>insecure
just don't use youart and skim PKGBUILDs before installing

>>60031156
http://www.tecmint.com/linux-find-command-to-search-multiple-filenames-extensions/

>>60035874
>unnoficial and insecure
noone gives a fuck. they just want the programs.
anyways void isnt as bad for software as I remember it being but its still a disadvantage. I Like void but no, the aur is a good reason to use arch if youd benefit from it.
I swear to god every reason people shit on some other distro is almost always completely retarded. Debian is a good distro. Arch isnt remarkable in most ways, but the AUR is great. Gentoo is a gnu/linux distribution, not an ironic joke. The use flag customization is cool. /g/ is fucking /v/ tier.
t. void user.

>>60035838
ppa's are community and insecure.
github is community and insecure.
gnome-look applets are community and insecure.
your mom is community and insecure.

>>60036090
>applets

Is it possible to use arch linux without any systemd?

>>60036117
Yes

>>60036117
not supported but can be done

>>60036117
GNU/Linux*

>>60035874
Prolly has 10 times more official packages as well.
Void is prolly the only distro @ distrowatch where you don't need a browser scrollbar to view the package list.

>>60036125
>>60036134
Good, I just want the latest updates and installation taking 5 minutes. No more distro hopping, I'll join the arch linux master race in a couple of days.

>>60035693

Why do you think using those shitty, downstream distributions will make your experience better?

>>60035785

Why do you think Puppy Linux will do the same?

>>60036187
If archbang is still a thing, no systemd there.
Option to boot usb to ramdisk like puppy, so it's pretty fast that way.
Don't buy into the systemd fud, tho.

>>60036219
Because I've tried it and speak from experience?
Why are you convinced starting a manchildish flamewar helps anything?

is systemd a botnet?

>>60036257
https://github.com/systemd/systemd

tell us

Should I even install anything?

>>60036254

How was running a modern browser and browsing the internet better on Puppy Linux than on any other normal, upstream distribution running the same software?

I'm having this stupid problem whenever I upgrade kali in virtualbox to install the damn Guest Additions so I can copy-paste hash tables and send binary files to use it with ollydbg, the damn thing crashes.

What happens is that, after upgrading so I can install the files, glitches virtualbox, whenever it goes to the login screen, it changes to tty cursor mode, then quickly changes to GUI cursor mode, then goes back to tty. This happens repeatedly.

What am I missing here? I even increased the space and re-installed, but nothing.

>>60036273

You expect me to read the source and inform myself instead of just being spoonfed an opinion and parrotting the first one or the one I deem most edgy and which will make me seem bold and smart? lol what a fag, no thanks

>>60036219

Im a loonix noob, I just typed "linux distro for old pc" and that's what came up.

>>60036323
Glad I could help

i realized that this thread will soon reach the bump limit so I copy pasted the OP pasta, attached a funny gnu+linux related picture and created a new thread, hope you like, link is here: >>60036308

>>60036274
I reinstall my OS every few weeks just to make sure it wasn't infected with CIA malware.

>>60036274

no, anything is bloat and also a botnet and against the unix philosophy. i run the most minimal distribution, which is no computer at all and no systemd is an additional bonus with that setup.

>>60036328
GNU/Linux*

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>>60036331
nice work!

>>60036310

How come you're such a smart hacker who hacks the world, but you don't know that you can install the programs you use on Kali Linux on your actual distribution?

>>60036367
I have 7 hours left, I don't think I have the time to find stuff and compile them.

Also, I'm not doing anything serious, geez. Just wanted to see what the problem was since I had this happen months ago as well before this CTF started.

>>60036410

How come you're such a smart hacker who hacks the world, but you don't know how to read the program's name from the title bar or from the command you type into your terminal emulator?

>>60036479
What's wrong with you? I have most of them, not all of them. I don't have time.

>>60031927
You can't do a minimal Fedora install since you can't install xorg on its own unless you want to install literally every single window manager with it.

>>60036176
stop shitposting dumb faggot
https://github.com/voidlinux/void-packages/tree/master/srcpkgs

>>60036353
Shit/Linux*

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>>60036833
Not to mention being a terrible liar.

>>60035415
Right now I'm choosing between Debian Stable, Testing, Ubuntu MATE, or Mint Cinnamon
I'm okay with old packages, I prefer something that won't break and with little maintenance for my laptop and gf' one.

>need an absofuckinglutely mission critical system like your life depended on it
CentOS ? Debian Stable is not good for this ?
What about *BSD ? I thought it was the best for critical missions.

>>60037452
>What about *BSD ? I thought it was the best for critical missions.
Ridiculous assumption.
The only thing BSD is good for is embedded applications due to it's lax licensing.

>CentOS ? Debian Stable is not good for this ?
Debian is "the universal operating system" not "the server operating system".
It's popularity in the server department comes from the fact that Debian stable is "stable enough" and thus recommended for projects like home servers, web servers, file servers so on and so forth.

I seriously doubt 5+ years of uptime and was anywhere at any point in time in the goals of the project because it never needed to be.

>I'm okay with old packages, I prefer something that won't break and with little maintenance for my laptop and gf' one.
The only updates a release of "stable" branch receives are security updates.

>>60037747
What make CentOS more stable than Debian ?

>>60037954
it's release cycle