/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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Is there any way I can make my StinkPad let me use the keyboard and the trackpad at the same time? It's annoying as shit scrolling with the arrow keys and having to wait a second before I can move the mouse again.

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>country has laws against importing used/refurbished products
>local retailers jew the fuck out of customers
>tfw you will never have a nice and comfy ThinkPad
What do? Is it possible that the customs can see wether it is a used notebook or not just by the box and x-rays? Heard they just x-ray the box and if they judge it as used, they confiscate it.

Where is best to get a cheap X220 to throw an SSD into?

>>60024489
Where the fuck do you live?

>>60024649
Bend over and I'll show you.

>>60024649
Brazil desu, we got high taxes and a shitty customhouse that almost everyone tries to avoid (they tax 60% of the price you paid on products above $35, but not always, depends on how many dicks they've sucked on that day).

>>60024761
You live in my ass? Last I checked there were no laws against importing refurbished products there. ;^)

fuck the trackpoint. scrolling is shit
the thinklight is sweet though

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>>60025172
Maybe you're not used to it yet. At first I didn't like it at all, but after a good week or two of constant use, it became the preferred means of navigation.

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THINKPADS R GREAT

Looking for some upgrades to my x41t. Gonna get a 32gb 1.8" pata ssd and a new stylus
Any other suggestions? Anything cool I could put in the card bus 2 slot?
New battery is a maybe, not sure I want to drop 40$ on one just yet
Slice battery is a no go, dock ports have some missing pins.

How do wireless headphones work under linux?

>>60025172
It depends what I'm using that determines if I use it or not.
For little thinkpads I prefer the track point.
But for anything larger the trackpad is betyer

FUCK THINKPADS

SPARE PARTS ARE WAY OVERPRICED!!!

hey /g/ can you help me

do i buy t460 or t460s

they're both pretty much the same prices on ebay used so which is objectively better?

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Are there any good thinkpads with native HDMI 1.4 (not through an adapter)?

I want to test out a bunch of tvs in store to see if any support 120 hz (http://www.blurbusters.com/overclock/120hz-pc-to-tv/), but it's not super practical to drag my gaming desktop around.

I already have 12 classicpads so you can skip the >modern thinkpad lecture. I just want something with a modern HDMI output and if it's going to be >$300 I'd rather it not be total garbage, hence thinkpad.

>>60026619
yoga 14

Has anyone tried putting an xx30 keyboard in an xx20 thinkpad? I know the reverse is a popular mod but have never heard of anyone doing this.

where can i buy a T420 replacement keybaord with the right FRU (45N2071)? Ebay is full of clones with shitty switches.

>>60025787
If your X41t is like my T43 in that one of the card slots is expresscard, you can get a USB 3.0 card. Wireless headphones should just werk if they are bluetooth, and if your laptop has bluetooth.

>>60026629
he said thinkpads

Should I?
http://www.ebay.es/itm/112370130819
Redpill me, /g/.

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What the fuck, guys. I just installed Win10 on my X220 and this is happening:

>>60028591

>windows
>windows 10

>>>/v/

>>60028591
Windows (((updating))) in the background? Use a real OS.

>>60027998
nice. is this one from th 90s or the 80s?

>>60028626
>>60028648

I have another machine for programming and daily work. Keeping my thinkpad for vidya, hence Windows.

>>60028591
>>60028648
Same happened to me a few days ago, i ended installing Win7 instead and applied new thermal paste, now it idles at 45º-50º

>>60028668

>keeping my thinkpad for vidya
like I said:
>>>/v/

If all I need for work is MS Office, should I get a ThinkPad? They're really bulky though and I have to walk a lot.

>>60029289
man up

>t420 comes in
>keyboard immediately turns out to be broken
>optical drive is broken
>lost all my flash drives over the course of multiple moves
well fuck. that is another 80 bucks this fucker will milk out of me just so i can fucking use it. this is what i get for trying to save 20 bucks on ebay.

>>60029461
Oh and should have mentioned the seller wants to charge me 40 dollars to return it so I'm fucked either way. "buyer pays return shipping and at our discretion buyer pays restocking fee"

>>60029472
That shit only goes if you're returning because of a change of mind. If what they sent you was fucking defective, they have to bare the costs of dealing with that, hence the purpose of buyer protection. If they keep giving you bullshit like charging you to return something that's broken then escalate the dispute and laugh as ebay goes in raw on them.

>>60029652
You're right man. I just have to man the fuck up and dispute this shit. Ebay has buyer protection for a reason and I need to make sure I am not fucked over by shitty sellers.

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>>60024061
MASTER RACE
>socketed i7-3740qm CPU
>16GB RAM
>Intel n/ac wlan card, wwan, bt, gps
>2,5" 9,5mm 240GB SSD + 2,5" 9,5mm 2TB HDD
>100Wh 9cell battery option
>12,5" screen
>much cheaper than x230

>>60029714
Yeah, I'd agree with you but ThinkPads have a large enthusiast user base which means mods such as 1080p screens and custom EC firmware patches are possible on the x230.

>>60029714
Does it have a trackpoint or at least a trackpad that isn't somehow worse than a phone screen?
>inb4 just buy a mouse
anything that makes you take your hand off the keyboard to use is bad.

>>60029819
nevermind. I think I see one. Pretend I didn't just make an invalid point.

>>60025172
Don't worry anon you'll get used to it

>>60029714
Breddy dank desu

>>60029810
>1080p screen
which requires soldering and it costs too much
>EC firmware patches
same applies to 2570p. In fact it allows you to flash custom ME image so you can overclock your CPU and RAM. Plus it has multiple cooling mods.
You can also replace the screen with better one if you got the money.
>>60029819
It does have a trackpoint. It does support thinkpad trackpoint clits.

>>60029896
>>60029714
also did I mention RAID-0 and RAID-1 support for SATA drives?
You can connect two 2,5" SSDs and get 1GBps speeds from two separate 6Gbps sata ports.
Try the same with any thinkpad. These don't even support RAID in BIOS.

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Hi why the fuck Gnome does not recognize my T430's intel HD4000 while Xorg seems to do it well ?

I tried to remove xf86-video-intel because of this (https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/4cojj9/it_is_probably_time_to_ditch_xf86videointel/ ) and everything seems to work fine except for Gnome 3 recognition.

Also I have this :
lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)

and this :

grep Chipset /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[ 704.895] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets:
[ 704.900] (--) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000

Does /g/ compute ?

>>60029972
Wtf I love hp now

>>60029972
not to mention CRIPPLED mSATA PORT, lmao
Funny thing is lelnopevovo limited native 6Gbps speed to 3Gbps for marketing reasons. And you goys keep buying their shit.
Stop embarrassing yourselves and get HP(R) Master Race (TM)

>>60029896
>which requires soldering and it costs too much
>You can also replace the screen with better one if you got the money.
Make up your mind mate.

>custom ME image so you can overclock your CPU and RAM
What does ME have to do with overclocking? I am guessing you're refering to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology

>>60029972
I would rather live with software RAID than rely on the shitfest that is hardware RAID.


I do like Elitebooks, I used to have one as well. They're well built, work great and are stupid easy to service. But it's quite undeniable that ThinkPads have more people hacking on them.

>>60030088
Soldering is required in x230.
But if you count it as usable solution then you can do the same in 2570p.
>What does ME have to do with overclocking?
I don't know. Google it.
>not understanding what intel fakeraid is
kys
and you don't clearly understand what requirements are for non-bios supported raid is. Yes, you need a 3rd boot drive.

>>60030088
>have more people hacking on them.
lmao, so far you've been proven wrong.
>hacking
the catch is you don't need to """"hack"""" elitebooks to RESTORE BASIC FUNCTIONALITY.
So it doesn't count as a pros. Kek

>>60030054
Ivy Bridge only has support for two 6Gbps ports you tard. They made the ultrabay and main sata port 6 gbps while the elite oak doesn't even have an extra msata port

>>60030116
>non-bios supported raid is
Would love to know what stops you from doing a software raid on something like a x230

>>60030160
>only two 6Gbps ports
then explain why ivy bridge based 2570p has two internal 6Gbps ports and one external (eSATA) 6Gbps port. I'm waiting.
>>60030163
3rd boot drive required. No thanks.

>>60030130

It's time for bed Kevin.

>>60030163
uhm, the necessity of carrying an ultrabase docking station to get the second 2,5" bay?
or the fact that msata port is crippled and raiding it with main 2,5" drive is a bad idea?
I don't know senpai, you tell me

>>60030174
>3rd boot drive required. No thanks.
No you dont for RAID 1 or 0 you stupid cunt. Look up how to use mdadm

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>>60030204
>linux
now find me an alternative for windows or silence yourself forever, cuck

>>60030174
eSATA port has it's own controller

>>60030239
Fuck off and do your own research before spewing bullshit you incompetent nincompoop

>>60030239
>>60030204
>>60030192
>>60030174
>>60030130
>>60030116
>>60030054
>>60030007
>>60029972
>>60029896

Try harder samefag. There's a reason why more people/bunsinesses use ThinkPads. It's called "A better fucking product"

>>60030252
so 2570p has two sata controllers and it's objectively superior to x230. Thanks for proving my point.
Putting x230 drives in RAID is a bad idea. There is only one internal 6Gbps drive and one msata 3Gbps drive. Carrying always locked ultrabay with second 2,5" drive is a very bad idea, believe me.
Even so x230 has shitty CPU.

>>60030239
But there is a Windows alternative desu
It's called storage spaces

>>60030285
Show me some data and actual arguments, senpai.
Just because companies buy thinkpads doesn't mean these are reliable or better than elitebooks.
So far you've been proven wrong.

>>60030293
check
>>60030287
there are no drives you should RAID in x230

>>60030239
>alternative for windows
Here you go buddy https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/

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>>60029972
>using raid
>ever

>>60029972
Your enthusiasm for RAID makes me think you've never used it

>>60029972
>>60030377
Also, why the fuck do you want a RAID on a laptop you fucking moron?

>>60030345
>not arch
Try again senpai

>>60030384
to get 1GBps read/write speeds?
Your reasoning is fucking retarded. I've already pointed this out multiple times.
Somehow RAID is usable in dells, but thinkfags will enter full denial mode if someone points out thinkpads are bad in RAID support.

>>60029896
I mean I get this but
>>60029972
There's more disgusting than raid. Just get a proper SSD. 500 MB/s is more than enough for your Chinese cartoons

>>60030403
>>60030420

>>60030387
I do use Arch, the other fellow might want something that works out-of-the-box since he doesn't seem to have any experience with a half decent OS

>>60030403
Use a SSD then cuck

>>60030420
>500 MB/s is more than enough for your Chinese cartoons
500MB/s of what transfer? Do you even realize how retarded numbers you start pulling our of your ass now?
Not to mention 2570p can handle quad core cpus. so it can also handle a lot of iops hungry VMs

>>60030435
>you don't need more 500MB/s speeds
Thinkfags in full retard mode telling people what they need. KEK'>>60030436
This entire discussion is about RAIDing SSDs you illiterate nigger

>>60029896
>>60029972
>>60030054
>>60030116
>>60030174
>>60030239
>>60030287
>>60030306
>>60030403
>>60030449
>trying this hard
Shiggy

>>60030493
>this lack of argument
Buyers remorse at it's best.
Enjoy your cumstained 1990-looking thinkpad.

>>60030293
you can't use storage spaces as a system drive.
Try again, thinkcuck

Can a t420 play dota2? I5

>>60030558
no it can't you fucking thinkcuck.
l2google

>>60030558
No, it's going to overheat and melt steel beams.
Also HD3000 is shit for 3d. HD4000 is a requirement for dota2

So what thinkpad can handle dota 2 on lowest settings with 60 fps? The cheapest obviously .

>>60030603
>60fps
w530 with k2000m dgpu

>>60026507
Objectively 460s BUT

It has somewhat better build quality materials, generally better screen (it has 1440p option) and DDR4 and that new faster SSD port.

But not hot swappable battery and only one free RAM slot. It has 4gb soldered and one free. The 460 has two free slots.

I ended up going with the 460 and love it, but the 460s is nice too just take the ram and battery into account

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>>60029714
>>60029972

I would like a machine to take around with me because my y510p is too heavy. How much did you pay for yours? How much should I expect to pay for an 8gb version? Is $175 too much? Like https://archive.fo/7poSX

Thank you

What's TPG's opinion on the T470, it got a 91% on notebookcheck, I got
FHD
8GB ram
7200u
256ssd
For 700, worth it?

>>60030753
I've paid $300 so far for it.
>base unit with i5-3320m, 4gb ram, 500gb 7200rpm hdd, 6 cell battery with 90% capacity
>additional i7-3740qm cpu, 16gb ram, 240gb ssd + 2tb hdd, 9cell 100Wh battery, 2560p heatsink, docking station, 90w psu, bt module, wwan module, black skin
After I sell the old cpu, ram, hdd and 6cell battery I should decrease the total cost a little bit.

>>60030803
Yes

>>60030847
ah, I got the base unit for $190

>>60030803
Lol nope
I have 8gb ddr4 | i7 7500u | 256ssd | geforce 940Mx for 690€

>>60030803
>FHD IPS

Lenovo is jewing people by putting in 65% srgb panels

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I'm being jewed aren't I?
Context is a 9cell that only hold like 5.7Wh of charge when it should be around 7.8

>>60030926
How

>>60030803
Yes

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>>60030893

You didn't like the WiFi card it came with? Does it not come with WiFi when you buy it on ebay? I've never bought anything $20+ on eBay so I don't know how this works :/

I can dispute if the computer arrives broken, right?

I really just need a decent machine to run the latest Fedora with the latest gnome 3.

How much would you pay for a x230 with

i5-3320M
16GB RAM (New)
500GB SSD (New)
2TB HDD (New)
6 cell battery at 91% capacity

Decent condition, stuck in a datacenter rack for 2 years and then shelved.

Have a chance to grab it now. What's the market price for this?

>>60031034
intel 6205 (default card) is totally fine, I just wanted ac wifi support.
>Does it not come with WiFi when you buy it on ebay?
It does.

>>60031035
>What's the market price for this?
>doesn't mention the country

>>60031065
>it does
it does come with wifi card.

>>60031132
Sorry about that, it's Australia

>>60029454
It depends of what you're looking for in a ThinkPad and how much you're willing to pay. It seems that the ThinkPad X1 Carbon is really light but does it fit your needs?

>>60024061
I need a new T420 keyboard. Where can I find one?

Is it legit to disassemble the motherboard and clip it USB 3.0 ports?

What ThinkPad has a a big screen, a numpad, and LONG battery life? I only need it for Excel.

Or am I better off with an IdeaPad?

>>60027023
I am wondering as well. Any ideas?

>>60031240
That actually looks amazing but wow it's expensive. The specs don't really matter to me. Portability is the main factor.

>>60031333
T570

>>60031643
X220 or X230 mang.

>>60031333
New or refurbished?
T540 onward already have a numpad.
Check out prices, see what you like.

>>60031035
>>60031142
Anyone? I can compare against US prices as well.

>>60031035
>>60031142

For the price of buying shit outright and new I'd guess around:

>X230 excluding all but the cpu
Maybe $200, probably even less, but prices on ebay fluctuate heaps.
>16GB RAM (New)
~$90
>500GB SSD (New)
Bit over $200 maybe
>2TB HDD (New)
~$150
6 cell battery at 91% capacity
~$30 I guess, it's not much more for a fresh 6-cell.

If you were trying to resell any of it you might be getting a bit less though, at a guess in the vague vicinity of $500 might be around where it would sell on ebay, though if you're pulling figures out of your arse for the sake of making an offer you could aim more around $400 maybe.

>>60031843
Actually I fucked up checking prices on the RAM and battery and had US prices, RAM is more like $120-140 and batteries are some obscene price but chink 9 cells are like $30 anyway so that gives you some idea.

>>60031843
>>60031879
Thanks senpai, that's what i came up with as well. Seems a bit pricey, but I am looking for a machine and this seems to be as good as it gets

I got an X220 for about $100 and put my spare 500gb SSD in it. I love it. How'd I do?

>>60031843
>not mentioning WHAT RAM
DDR3? DDR3L? CL9? CL11? 1600MT/s or maybe faster?
DDR3 is cheaper than DDR3L

>>60031933
DDR3 1600 low voltage

>>60031945
DDR3LLLLLow voltage

>>60031929
Pretty good.

>>60031929
You did good anon

What makes the X1 better than a Dell XPS?

Someone is selling an X220 near me, is this a good model? How is battery life and Linux support?

>>60033344
>Someone is selling an X220 near me, is this a good model? How is battery life and Linux support?

Forgot to mention price, he's asking $120.

>>60033403

If it's in good shape then yea it's a pretty good deal I think.

Passing through the thread though so I don't really know if it's a good model.

>>60024061
>Recommended models:
>T420 - 14", normal size

This still up to date and stuff? Looking at grabbing something for browsing, light image editing, and maybe some light music production.

Also for getting into linux.

ThinkPad X230 Core i5-3320 8gb ram 320 gb hard drive
for $260 worth?

>tfw gimped by sata2 speeds on my cumpad x220

>>60033797
non tablet?

>>60033830
yes non tablet

>>60027023
Aliexpress, theoretically you could build a new t420 with all the parts they sell there.

>>60033797
USD, don't pay more than $200 for a x230, x220, t430, or t420. and that's if you just gotta click "buy now" right now. try to get it under $150

>>60033823
what task is being hamstrung by an ssd on sata2 that would suddenly ride the lightning at sata3? main hd bay is still there if msata speeds actually affects you that much (it isn't)

GF brought home a x220 from work, "fix it and it's yours" how much are we betting it's not an IPS model

is there any way to deduce from ebay photos if it is an ips screen or not?

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I'm about to get my first Thinkpad. I hear that the T60 is /g/'s favorite Thinkpad, so I'm about to pull the trigger on this:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ1KH7879&cm_re=thinkpad_t60-_-9SIA0AJ1KH7879-_-Product

What does /g/ think?

>>60033718

pls response

>>60034199
It handles light stuff pretty well.

If you make basic upgrades to him, like a ssd and dual-channel ram, it will probably last very long for you.

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>>60030968
So what the fuck do I do about this?
>>60033718
Any thinkpad can do what you need. Heck, any laptop can in general. Just choose whatever you like best

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Does someone here know the exact differences between a T530 and a W530?

I'd love to turn my T530 into a W530 if the only difference is the motherboard with the Nvidia Quadro graphics chip.
Would be a really cheap way to start out my CAD side business.

>>60034006
9/10 it's not if it was owned by a business. If it is, celebrate, have a beer, you beat the odds.

>>60034144
800 fucking dollars? Are you insane? It's worth 1/10th that. The entire point of old thinkpads is that they're foremost cheap.

>>60034144
Don't do it. Get something newer.

>>60034199
Go for a T430. There's little to no reason to get a T420 these days.

>>60034144
>$800 for an eleven-year-old laptop
>it's not even one of the hardware configurations worth owning, it's fucking 1024x768 and Yonah and they know it
who the fuck do they think is going to fall for this shit?

>>60034724
W530 also has two more RAM slots on quadcore models, but I'm pretty sure there's no shape or size difference between it and the T530.

>>60034838
It's automated. Someone in a warehouse in Texas scanned a barcode, the system found a matching listing against an entry with no depriciation against it and threw it up on the website.

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>>60034838
Just found out both models use the same rollcage.
Cheap-ass mobile workstation here I come.

one of the best things i like about my x1c3 is that the keyboard doesn't flex at all when you type. any other thinkpad models have this "feature"?

>>60034971
All of them usually. Every model has a bunch of keyboard manufacturers. There's always a non-rubbish option available.

>>60035020
i guess what i mean is that it seems like the way the keys are made, when i press a key on the x1c3, none of the other keys are affected at all. they're all independent. but when i press a key on my older T430 or T200, when i press a key the keyboard seems to flex in around the key pressed. i hope that makes sense.

>>60029714
>no middle trackpoint button
>trackpoint inferior in feel to thinkpads'

End it all anon.

>>60034144
I hope for your own sake that this is a troll. Nobody is this fucking retarded.

>>60033150
Both are thin shit tier garbage, but atleast there's a nipple on the Carbon

>>60028668
>gaming on a ultraportable thinkpad with intel GPU
you don't need Windows 10 for the kind of games this laptop will run
install Windows Vista/7/8.1

/g/'s, please tell me about the T520
is it usable in a.d. 2017?
does it come with IPS displays? If not can I fit one in?
can I swap Sandy Bridge CPU for Ivy Bridge CPU?

>>60037414
>is it usable in a.d. 2017?
Of course, CPU performance has stagnated like crazy. I'm getting by just fine on a Core 2 Duo from ten years ago. Sandy Bridge will be usable until the death of x86-64.

>does it come with IPS displays? If not can I fit one in?
Not IPS, but the I believe its 1080p option is the same as the W520's, which is an absolutely gorgeous display. Even if it isn't the same panel, it would be easy enough to swap it for the one from the W520.

>can I swap Sandy Bridge CPU for Ivy Bridge CPU?
You can on the T420 by flashing Coreboot, but I don't know if the T520 supports it. If it does, then it would be doable. A bit excessive though, if you want Ivy Bridge it would be easier to get a T530 and mod the --20 keyboard into that.

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I've got a Thinkpad T530 with no screen, no OS.
I've got a Mini DisplayPort to DVI-D cable, a VGA cable, an RJ45 cable, power adapter for the T530, and a non-EFI PXE server setup.
I don't know if there is a password set for the BIOS, but I know the password.

For a normal boot up, it will quickly beep two times after the HDD light blinks.
If I mash the F1 key, it will offer a single quick beep, then after a second, it will offer two quick beeps.

I just want to get the BIOS to display on a separate screen. Using the F7 key won't help.

No one told me that the fn key and ctrl key on the T420 were swapped. Who in their right mind would want this? And the page back/forward buttons right above the arrow keys are the most obnoxious thing I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with. I've hit back twice while writing this post.

>>60037800
>Who in their right mind would want this?
apple

>I've hit back twice while writing this post.
remap them

>>60037800
fn+pgup to activate thinklight = bottom left and top right corners of the keyboard, easy to press even when you can't see

and besides that, other laptops are the ones that swapped them. fn-ctrl was the standard, thinkpads simply maintained it instead of changing for the sake of change

>>60037706
I own a T530
If you want I can give you the exact button combinations so you can get the BIOS onto a secondary screen.
Care to try?

>>60038148
yes, i'll report back any issue; thank you

>>60038164
Ok. But first one more question.
Apparently two beeps mean some form of memory error. Do you have a chance to remove/replace one RAM stick?

Other than this. Try this:
Turn on
Press Enter (Get single beep)
Wait half a second. Press F1
Press Right arrow once
Press Down arrow three times
Press Enter twice
Press Down arrow once
Press Enter
Press ESC
Press Right arrow four times
Press Enter twice

If your ThinkPad reboots now you hit the Jackpot. Bios should now be Displayed at Analog (VGA) Port.

So, I've got my T430, and I'm planning to upgrade to a quad core CPU. However, I'm a bit worried about overheating. Any protips?

>>60038244
i assume i'm being prompted for the password after the two beeps, and follow accordingly; it reboots at the end, but still no display from analogue

>>60038244
>>60038354
also, i've replaced the memory in both slots, and the beeping persisted

>>60038354
It reboots due to "Save and Exit". So I don't assume you have a BIOS password.
If you repeat the same process, the setting will be on "Digital on Thinkpad". I guess that's the MiniDP output.
Can you hook up Displays to both outputs and repeat this process a few times?

Other options are "Digital 1" and "Digital 2" on Dock. God knows where this setting has been before.

>>60038244
>>60038354
>>60038421
Oh an also. Please wait up to 5 seconds after you press the F1 button. It takes some time to get into the BIOS.

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>>60024061
Why do people hate the X131E?

What's the cheapest Thinkpad with a <= 14" IPS >=900p screen?

>>60038421
>>60038446
I press enter after the device turns on, I'm given one beep, and after two seconds, two more.
I wait half a second, then hit F1.
I wait five seconds, and once I hit Right arrow, it beeps, and I stop.

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>>60038476
I don't hate it, neither hacve I used it. But one of my co-workers has it as work laptop. It seems like carbitch to me.

>>60038488
T420

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>>60038511
I'm sorry, but I can't replicate any of these additional beeps after the Enter press.

Perhaps someone else knows what exactly said double beep stands for or which button to press to "dismiss" the potential error?

By the way have you ever put a harddrive with installed Windows 10 from another computer into the Thinkpad (preferrably without password)? It usually installs drivers, reboots, then boots into Windows and extends to any connected monitors.

>>60031035

Is the ssd an msata?

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Any recommendations where to buy cheap ThinkPad spare parts? Even Aliexpress seems overpriced to me.

I live in middle Europe btw

>>60038476
That's one good looking set up, anon.

>>60038476
The Lenovo Bluetooth mouse would be awesome if it had fucking side buttons...

What is the best way to get a new thinkpad?
In other words, is it a better deal to use the EPP in the OP, or to find a deal through other means? I want to buy a T470.

>>60038938
>I want to buy a T470
no you don't

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>>60038476
what keycaps are those?

too bad that keyboard's usb is on top.
why don't they understand that people might use them with a laptop?

>>60039052
They're G20 Stealth keys. Nice and comfy.

>>60038545
>T420
Doesn't it have a TN panel? Would like to avoid having to do relatively pricey/complicated mods.

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Does anyone here have the color profile for the standard x220 display?

I believe the part number starts with LGD

Does it hurt my fan if I have it run at 100% for a few hours at a time?

>drop thinkpad yet again
>battery corner cracked, hasn't exploded
should I worry /tpg/

>>60039696
found it on google pretty quick. IPS, at least.

I'm looking for an XBAWKS HEUG laptop (17" keypad, optical drive, tons of ports, etc.) with a decent processor for 6th gen emulation and possibly Cemu; what's the oldest I can get away with and still get good performance?

>>60040474

standard x220 display was what I needed

>>60040679
that was also easy to find.
you do know what the standard display type is, don't you?

>>60040787
>you do know what the standard display type is, don't you?

TN, still not finding it

>>60040887
the filetype name should help.

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I just picked up a used T500 on eBay for $40. It came in a fireworks box wrapped in industrial tape,palm rest is sticky and it smells funky. How did I do /g/?

>>60040986
Good. I like them.

>>60040986
>it smells funky
Like a dentists office?

>>60040986
A kind of sour milk smell?
Strip it, and lysol everything you can inside and out. I've gotten a few laptops with that before. I think its a mold or something.

>>60041331
It smells like plastic and the inside of a barn.

>>60041400
>Buying a literal stinkpad

>>60041495
It doesn't seem like it's all that dirty besides whatever is on the palm rest and some weird yellow crust under the keyboard. That's probably just sweat anyways

>>60041603
>It doesn't seem like it's all that dirty
>some weird yellow crust under the keyboard

yo i bought a 2570p not really because of that dorklord who keeps jerking off over them itt, but because it was $105. when it shows up i'll do a comparison with my x220, and idk maybe update whenever i try a new mod or upgrade

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>>60028591
Disabling Superfetch always helps to some degree

>>60041990
Listen all you faggots
No one gives a shit about your HP shitboxes.
They're inferior to thinkpads in every single fucking way. Stop shilling them here.

>>60042111
>They're inferior to thinkpads in every single fucking way

build quality on the older hp elitebooks kicked the shit out of the equivalent thinkpads of the generation

>>60042121
Are you fucking retarded?

>>60024061
I mean I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga S1 for $50

Only thing wrong with it was the video cable needed to be replaced (waiting on that now) and the bottom of the case was cracked so I just need to buy a new bottom and top chassis for $50 total

$100 for i5 6300U 8gb ram, 250gb HDD and 120gb SSD, touchscreen with wacom pen and tablet mode

and itll be brand new after that. I feel like it was a good find, everywhere else is like $450-$500

>>60042111
The shills aren't the ones that makes me want an elitebook. People like you are. I probably will one day.

>>60042134
yeah, i'm serious

Let's take the 2570p model that anon was shilling for above and compare it to the X220/X230 chassis

>Lid assembly has more solid construction, plastic RF window on the X series has been known to be a weak point
>Palmrest on the X series is flimsy
>Cooling issues (you can swap in a 45w quad core in to the 2570p)
>Soldered CPU
>Easier maintenance with tool free bottom hatch

>>60042229
>Bang HP shitpad slightly hard on the plastic latch
>Can now perform "easier maintenance" without even having to deal with a hatch!

That's not even mentioning the chickshit keyboard and the horrid layout.
Enjoy your dressed up pavillion faggot

How much should I pay for an X220 with a 256gb ssd and 6gb-8gb RAM? Are there any other 12" models worth buying? Is the i7 worth the extra cost?
All I really want to do is program and occasionally watch media.

>>60042279
The latch locks in place pretty hard, but for hamfisted retards like you HP included additional screws you can use.

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>>60042279
chink shit :^)

>>60042309
It hooks on with one fucking screw, real secure.
>>60042323
Less of a problem than the whole back breaking off you retard

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>>60042366
>lenovo internet defence force

>Less of a problem than the whole back breaking off you retard
can't happen with the screw in place

>>60042306
200 maybe, not really, no

>>60042366
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

>>60042402

Thanks for helping a brotha out. Last question. Is using a tiling window manager okay with the small display and resolution? If anyone has a screenshot that would be cool.

>>60042405
>>60042394
Elitebooks are like transvestites, a pretty dress doesn't make what's under it any better

>>60042467
t. thinkcuck

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>>60042465
tiling WMs are designed for small screens.
qutebrowser helps too.

>>60042528

Totally a-cute! anon. What distro is that? I've used qute before and loved it. What's the most amount of RAM you use? I like having a lot but honestly rarely used more than 3gb on linux... Maybe I can get 4GB and upgrade it in the future.
Coltrane is a legend, by the way; good taste.

>>60042567
arch, i3, the usual autism. Idles at around 2GB ram of 4 with background junk and thunderbird open.

>>60042528
how do you view youtube videos, block ads and javascript on non-usual sites?

So I've had an x230 for a while now, and about a month or two ago the battery just completely died.

It had discharged fully twice since I went on trips and left it at my home for a week ish while the pc was on sleep.

Anyways the battery died and I figured I'd just get a replacement since it was about time for one anyways. So I ordered a 9cell one from ebay for $55 and lo and behold the battery doesn't seem to charge.

So in my mind it's one of two things
1.) The battery I got was a dud since it has a manufacture date of 2013.08
2.) Something fried in my PC and it no longer has the capability to charge batteries, I've tested this on two separate chargers, the 90/65W ones and no dice.

Which one is it likely to be? Anyone have similar experiences regarding this? Also where to find cheap batteries for the x230 that work?

>>60043454
That's some top tier autism you got there

>>60029972
My T420 has an open BIOS the previous owner put on. It has RAID, 1866MHz memory support, and no wifi whitelist among other things.

>>60043454
keybind m to hint urls to mpv
hosts file built in
switch to firefox if i'm feeling paranoid, or just switch to the webkit backend if it's a just a matter of annoyance.

Are Dell 6XXX series still worth buying if you're pretty much only concerned with the processor?

>>60044365
Get an ideapad

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Whats a fair bulk price for these gutted t420s? not sure of the battery condition or if any chargers included
https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/sys/6093772898.html

>>60044583
Is the y510p any good?

>>60044645
bretty good yeah

can anyone tell me if this is a good deal? looking for a laptop to take to school, its going to be running Linux.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162458192757?ul_noapp=true#rwid

Most based stickers for DankPads?

>>60045320
none.

>>60043511
Are you 100% certain it's a genuine Lenovo battery? Generic batteries are know to be completely unusable unless you fuck around with the bios quite a bit.

>>60034144
T60 is only worth it when you buy it off ebay for like 80 bux, when you want something to just dick around on and play with different distros and the such, and when you already have a modern laptop that you do most of your work on. General buying advice on thinkpads is to avoid buying a new thinkpad at the "new" cost, that was never adjusted from when it was released on sites like newegg. Stick to ebay, lenovo's outlet for nu-thinkpads, and maybe craigslist.

How's the 450? Should I just get a 430/530 and heavily mod it instead?

>>60037800
You can swap them in the bios faggot

>>60044684
I'll keep an eye out then, thanks. Any chance of picking up a refurb?

>>60035230
>trackpoint inferior in feel to thinkpads
thats why I noted it supports clits from thinkpads.
There is no difference in feel after replacing it.

>>60043599
>T420
>2017
no thanks, I'm not retarded to use randy bridge cpu in 2017.
also it doesn't have RAID support. Even if you flash the olehs modded bios it lacks this option.
>1866MT/s support
kek, ivy bridge supports 2133MT/s memory.
>no wifi whitelist
there is no whitelist in wlan port of 2570p.

>>60045936
dude it's a laptop
why the fuck do you want raid?

>>60024061
does bios for x220 works on x220t?

Where to buy cheap x230 batteries that actually work and won't explode?

>>60045584
Probably fine if you just want a fairly new justwerks laptop. If you want something newer that you can give frivolous mods to then have a look at the T440p, but really the *30s are well enough rounded anyway while being cheap.

>>60046285
eBay, or maybe aliexpress as well if you want to go chink. I'm not aware of any cases of any of these batteries having samsunged on anybody OEM would be a more obvious choice for the paranoid.

>>60045936
you can swap out the Sandy Bridge one for an Ivy bridge cpu

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For how long we can still use second Gen CPU i3/i5/i7 and subsequently thinkpad that have those?
Since many OSs aren't optimized for these old CPUs, and many sites don't run smoothly with those.
Will this lead to the death of the thinkpads?

>>60028591
This happened to me as well when i had win 10 installed. Go to device manager and disable Ricoh express card slot, it worked for me

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>>60047219
Look at what CPUs that you get in modern laptops do in benchmarks compared to Sandy i5s and you'll get an idea of how far they are from being deprecated. Obviously you stand to get reasonable enough gains from a decent machine, but the poverty grade shit that gets shoveled out certainly isn't a step above. Modern sites just run like shit on anything desu, and you have to go down to some pretty awful CPUs to make them properly painful anyway, at least as a result of the CPU itself.

Chance are the only reason you'll want to upgrade is that before too long, you'll be able to pick up thinner models with better screens, battery life and (eventually) better CPU/GPU power, at prices that make any supposed durability losses seem reasonable enough.

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>>60047530
But performance is noticeable with social media sites like facebook, or when watching BD 1080p videos, especially if you're using iGPU.

>>60047617
I have an X220 w/ i5-2450m and a slightly damaged fan, and facebook sure doesn't have noticeable CPU performance issues, though it does definitely get the fan going. My internet connection is more of a limiting factor though so it's hard to say, but either way it's fucked that presenting text and picture is at all intensive or reliant on latency.

BD 1080p meme-tier bitrate chinese cartoons run fine though, outputting to FHD and anything below it. Maybe if you had a 1440p or more monitor it might be an issue.

>>60028591
STR8 KEKED

>>60045071
>looking for a laptop to take to school, its going to be running Linux.
HP stream.
There's also the ASUS zenbooks, XPS 13 and a few other models.
You'll be getting a MUCH more portable machine with significantly better battery life, especially under linux.

Also no one is gonna be laughing at your dinosaur machine, if that matters to you.

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>>60047530
These old business laptops completely outclass new laptops that you can get for 150-300 dollars. Getting anything but a used business laptop makes no sense when you only want to spend a few hundred dollars.

>>60047708
I have a 2011 Mac mini with an i5-2415M. I think the performance of these sandybridge processors are more than good enough for modern sites. There are those that are slow ofc, but those are the types that peg the CPU at 100% (level1techs.com). But those sites do that on my other computer that has a i5-4690 too.

The haswell machine is noticeably quicker, but for browsing around, watching high definition content (even 10-bit stuff) on a 2560x1440 monitor, both do the job good enough. I don't really notice a difference between the two in those tasks.

>>60048244
>These old business laptops completely outclass new laptops that you can get for 150-300 dollars.
They really don't.
Especially if battery life is a concern. The most you'll ever get on a machine like a T420 is 4ish hours, and that's with tlp and all the power management shit you can do running.
If you want to lug around a 5-6lbs laptop, with another 2lbs charger, and make sure you have time to recharge in between every lecture/meeting/whatever the fuck you do, then go ahead.

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>>60048824
What's the specs?

>>60048289
My X220 with a 6-cell battery gets about 4-6 hours, depending on use. A 9-cell would be much better. Something crappy like the Asus E403 would give you a higher res display and about 12 hours battery life, but then you'd have to live with the shitty 32GB eMMC storage the cheapest configuration comes with, and about half of those laptops that I unpack have spacebars with broken stabilisers. These machines is horrible to use due to how slow they are. But the battery life is great.

>>60038948
Why not?

>>60048898
Yeah 4-6 hours if you have the brightness all the way down, only text webpages open etc.
Try running a youtube video at anything over 720p and tell me how long the battery lasts. Full voltage CPUs are awful at this.

No one is telling you to buy the cheapest piece of shit that ASUS makes.
Their zenbooks start at like 600 bucks and it has a pretty amazing screen + battery life.
If you want a well performing shitbox there's the HP stream. Both of these run linux well.

>>60048873
X230, i5, 4GB RAM, 120SSD, 6 Cells nearly new, 240€, looks perfect

I bought another 4GB but discovered after that the slot is broken and sometimes it fucks up everything. it was better but 4GB is fine.

Anyway, with fHD DSLR video editing with color correction it's perfectly usable

>>60049073
Zenbooks are nowhere near the price range of an X220. My comparison was with the processor you would typically find in new laptops in the same pricerange as a used X220 or 2560p.

Ofc. laptops in the 600+ dollar pricerange is a lot more attractive when you have that much to spend. Asus' X305 line hasn't been without faults tho. There were several models where trackpads getting stuck under the top cover and crooked construction that made the laptop slide around on the table as you used it since only one rubber pad touched the table. There were a few models that had huge issues with BSODs too. Haven't gotten any complaints about their newer zenbooks tho. The X220 does indeed outclass a shitty SoC-based 300 dollar laptop, even tho the battery life only lasts 3-4 lectures (that's what I got with my macbook 10 years ago).

If you can't afford to spend at least the required amount (about 500-700) for a entry level computer from a decent range, get a used business laptop, or save up until you can afford one. Don't fall for those cheap 300 dollar laptops. They're more trouble than they're worth.

>>60049262
My point is that for almost every use case that's not using your laptop like an autistic ape, the HP stream is a better buy than a X220.
The full voltage CPU does nothing but ruin battery life, and the screen is garbage anyway. Sure the keyboard is worse, but you're gonna be using an external one for any kinda serious typing anyway.
3 hours of battery (assuming you're not shelling out for a brand new OEM 9 cell, then you'll get maybe 4.5 hours) is just useless these days if you're going to be doing serious work and not just shiposting in your bed.
Most lecture halls don't have outlets.

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>>60043511
>x230

I want laptop with good battery and good HW support for linux.

Is thinkpad what I need?
Which one should I pick?
I want it to have:
- good battery life
- good screen
- good enough specs
- doesn't cost more than 300
- can be second hand

I'm considering t430, but not sure how's battery on this one compared to others?

I never had thinkpad.

>>60049541
>I want laptop with good battery
Not a fucking thinkpad then
You either get a full voltage CPU or good battery life, pick one.

Again, scroll up. At 300 get an HP stream.
Or stop being such an inbred and save up 300 more dollars for a zenbook

>>60049541
Funny how a T430 has shit battery life, a garbage screen, and you're probably gonna spend more than 300 bucks if you include a drive/ssd, OEM power brick and chink 9 cell.

anything cool I can do with the expresscard slot on my t420?

>>60049805
Cuck yourself with an expensive egpu setup

>>60048220
Fucking Christ these things are 1k to 800 sheckles. Is there another laptop u can recommended? I wanted the thinkpad cause of the low price and good specs.

>>60049848
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HZT6AR0/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1493043483&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=ux330&dpPl=1&dpID=41WSmKo4CzL&ref=plSrch

You can also get get a job. And thinkpads don't have good specs. Even a t430 is like 6 years old now

>>60049921
>You can also get get a job. And thinkpads don't have good specs. Even a t430 is like 6 years old now
kys

>>60049998
Aw did I hurt your feefees?
It's ok, mommys gonna make you tendies while you jerk off to trannies on your T60

>>60049497
>being this salty about your inferior freetard machine

>>60024334
not a joke: install gentoo

>>60049921
>wangblows

I'll probably get this. Hopefully its got decent loonix support thanks for the help

Is this a good product for my T420?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Battery-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-E40-E50-T410-T410I-T420-T510-SL410-SL510-IBM-/182403293533?var=&hash=item2a7815615d:m:mYKeQKSGFyd_memOI41f0Pg

>>60051238
Its not like you'll be getting more than 2 hours anyway kek

According to the wiki, X61 can be used with 8GB has anyone done this?

And also, which Thinkpad will best protect my freedom? X200 is recommended, but don't understand why? Will models lower than this achieve the same.

>>60047617
I can play hi10p 1080p on a fucking core 2 duo t9600 and a firegl v5700. stop talking out of your ass

>>60052245
T/X/R60, X200, T400 and T/W500 are Libreboot-able. Apparently X220 Libreboot is in the works.

>>60052290
>>60047617
Core2 series Thinkpads only stutter with 1080p if their in power saving mode, if you're on regular power usage or plugged in a T9400 or P8700 can easily do 1080p.

>>60049623
my t420s has a full voltage cpu and it gets about 5 hours of typing on the 6 cell, I can even chuck in an extra 3 cells into the ultrabay.

>>60052340
that was with the voltage turned down to 1.1v

>>60052300
Libreboot is said to be released this December.

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>>60024061
Has anyone tested 32GB of RAM in the T430 yet? 2x 16GB modules exist now, but they didn't back when it came out.

>>60052381
>$200 laptop
>$200 ram

>>60052418
The T430 is still the most upgradable Laptop on the market. Please find me a $400 laptop with 32GB of RAM that isn't junk after a few years.

>>60052346
The s has a gimped cpu though.
5 hours was impressive in like 2011 maybe, you fucking retard.
A peice of shit HP stream can easily get 8-10

What do people think about the libreboot X220? It's completely refurbished with freedom respecting components. IPS panel, and a upgraded cooler. Its pretty pricy, up there with the MSRP of the X220 at launch.

Would you get it?

Anyone know a reputable place to get a genuine 9 cell battery for a T420?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/9-Cell-Genuine-Battery-Lenovo-ThinkPad-L421-L520-T410i-T420-T510i-T520-W510-W520-/321202989277?hash=item4ac930a8dd:g:25UAAMXQt~hSKv0C

I was looking at this but
>Ships from China

>>60052749
You know Lenovo itself ships from China, right?

>>60052765
I did not, actually.

>>60052749

>but 'Ships from China

Oh you mean that place that makes all of Lenovo's components? No shit, moron. All the spares for ThinkPads are mainly in China, because that's where they're made and stockpiled.

>>60052854
Oh okay thanks.

Looking to get a 4-cell battery for my X230. I like it because its flush and doesn't raise it up from the back when its on my desk. I have the 6 cell still. Would part number 0A36281 be compatible with it? Even if its not, I don't think its too much of a big deal as I said this is just a battery I'd put in when its at a desk. It would be nice if it worked though. I heard that some of the X220 batteries can supply power to the X230 but not charge from the X230.

>>60052449
>The T430 is still the most upgradable Laptop on the market.
stopped reading here

>>60053081
>I have no valid response so I'm just going to bait

>>60053081
Where do I upvote?

>>60053160
yes, I have no valid response to a shitpost of that magnitude

>>60024635
Ebay of course.

Should i buy an x240 with a shitty tft 1366 x 768 screen and buy an replacement fhd ips screen?

>>60053322
Yes, but don't forget to replace the shitty trackpad as well.

>>60049345
In my experience. Lectures don't last 12 hours. They're two hours, and there can be hours, sometimes even days until the next lecture. So a laptop that can provide 5-6 hours of taking notes is more than good enough. I never ran out of battery on my first generation macbook during lectures.

HP Stream is as bad as the E403 series from Asus. People buy then not expecting how slow the eMMC storage and SoC really is. Either save up for a 500-700 dollar laptop from a decent series, or get a cheap used business class laptop. 4-6 hours is more than enough for most students.

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>>60052449
>he fell for the 32GB RAM meme

>>60054198
>he's not employed and doesn't need his computer to do things

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>>60054216
>he uses his private laptop for his employer
or
>his employer gives him an old-ass T430

>>60054246
>he has an employer

> ThinkPad x240
> Core i5 4200U
> 4Gb RAM
> 1366x768
> $650

Should I get this?

>>60054366
oh, sorry, it's actually $500

>>60054380
a modern one with basically the same specs would cost the same

>>60054269
So what do you do? Install Gentoo on VM's all day?

My tracking number for my X220 hasn't updated since Thursday, god I hate the lazy jews running logistics.

>>60052568
how is the i5 2520m gimped? I guarantee it performs better than some hp shit

>>60054198
Don't talk to me or my son ever again

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>>60054759
*my wife's son

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>>60055168
>>60055168

>>60049345
>HP stream
the mobile celerons in those are really, really bad. i saw some poor kid have a meltdown in /r/suggestalaptop over buying one