/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Post a screenshot of your EQ graph window.

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>>59939233
:^)

what a shitty OP!

Where are the glorious 2D girls?

this is disgusting, like all the moneyfags who post here

>>59939534
Dumb anime poster.

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>>59939233
My 668B EQ with Cosmos AKG K240 Velours from Amazon.

What about hardware equalizers?

DT 880 > HD 600

>actually made in germany
>good build quality
>no veil

>>59940151
Yeah but HD 650 > DT 880 and they cost the same

>>59940151
>>59940177
600 are better than both, you plebs lmao

>>59940151
I've been considering these for a while though the stock pads are kind of off putting with them being ridiculously soft and the premiums look really loose. Would genuine DT770 velours be a nice replacement for the Pro versions of the DT880's?

>>59940177
Where would you get 650's for $200 new?

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>buy HD800's
>go sit in library
>max volume
>put 3M earplugs in to save ears
>listen to japanese psychedelic throat singing
>annoy everyone

>>59940231
Yeah and my 1800x is better than a 7700k

>>59940249
>>listen to japanese psychedelic throat singing
Sounds fun. Link some?

>>59940151
lol, gotta be deluded to think that the flawed DT880 with beyerhiss(tm) holds a candle to HD600.

How do i clean earpads who can't be removed?

>>59940151
HD600 is more neutral.
>>59940334
7700K is superior for games especially if you've got a 144Hz monitor like I do.

>>59940363
>SNAP

>>59940344
Only available on private tracker sites.

>>59940151
>DT880

Shitty upper midrange which leads to a veiled signature
Bright piercing treble
Sibilant tone makes everything fatiguing

Just bought a FiiO X1

Anyone here who still uses a DAP?
..how do you explain it when someone asks about it without going full on autism mode?

>>59940650
>..how do you explain it when someone asks about it without going full on autism mode?
Just call it an MP3 Player, senpai. That's basically what all DAP's are anyways.

>>59940597
I also forgot that the HD 600 suffers from channel imbalance as well :^)

>>59940845
Yeah but I also own a perfectly fine smartphone with a micro sd card slot and internet access for spotify.

>>59940888
Then the purpose of the DAP is out the window when you can put your music on a micro sd unless your phone has a garbage battery.

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>>59940990
Y-Y-YES I CAN

DELETE THIS NOW

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Headphones that will match aesthetic of my xduoo x3?

>>59941048
M40X

>>59941048
how to install rockbox on xduoo?

>tfw HE-6, Eikon, HD 800S and Stax

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>>59939323
>>59940040

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Shure Se215 or ath m40x?

>>59942612
One is an in-ear, one is a small over the ear closed back headphone. The use case is more than a little different.

Would you kindly fill in some info for us?

Can not decide between sennheiser HD 599 and HD 650, any opinions? anyone had either of these or both? leaning towards 599

Convince me not to pull the trigger on k612.

>>59942868
because you want to buy my HiFiman 400i...

>>59942878
>used goods
Only pure maidens for me.

>>59942868
HD 600

>>59942928
HD600+amp literally costs twice the price of k612.

>>59942833
Don't fall for the HD 600 meme, buy DT 880 instead

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>>59942787
I know, i don't care much about comfort, i just want a good bass, isolation and close. (i don't want my family listening my porn)

>>59942942
doesn't matter

>>59942942
Dumb goy! Spend more shekels on snapheiser chinkplastic, and spend more when it breaks!

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l-lewd

>>59943083
>when it breaks
Doesn't happen.

>>59942910
used once... less than 1 hour.

>>59943139
Are these yours?
Which is better, the hd600 or 400i?

>>59943154
Bass is way better on the HE400i, mids and treble are slightly better on the HD600.

>>59942948
I already have the DT-880, and yes they're great, but I can't wear them for longer than an hour or two and my ears hurt from pressing against the inside of them. My ears aren't even that big or protrude outwards. I'm using monitors right now, and need some headphones for longer sessions of whatever, but sticking to dt-880 for detail listening/work

>>59943208
Are you using the Pro version?

>>59943154
SELLING 400i, HMU m8, pretty cheap too.

>>59943220
I think so, it's these https://www.thomann.de/se/beyerdynamic_dt880_pro.htm

>>59943228
sent ;^)

>>59943231
Yeah, the Pro version has more clamping force than the other version

>>59943251
Nah, I live in the 3rd world.

>>59943251
Just wondering, but how much do you want for it?

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>>59939144
Oh god I might buy a magni 2 to pair with my fulla 2, and just use the fulla as the dac like pic related. Everyone keeps talking about how the highs sound weird past certain volumes on the fulla 2 and I have nothing to compare it to. Would schiit EU accept a return if I don't care enough to keep the magni?

>>59943306
One time used under an hour, I'd take 220, honestly.

>>59943319
they are legally obliged to under eu law

>>59943325
That's a pretty good deal, you could always sell it on headfi or ebay if you wanted.

>>59943325
>$220
Give it back Jamal.

>>59943380
Meh, I sort of low-key do deals.
I don't like to post online much.
If I can get a one off deal, then it's good u know.

I bought them at 250 off amazon. So i think it's a good deal for whoever.

Which would you guys get? Focusrite Scarlett Solo or Steinberg UR12? Considering Steinberg since it's cheaper.

>>59943231
Try swapping the pads out for DT770 Velours, they're stiffer and should help with the clamping force.

>>59943319
Yes ofc. They offer that in murika, but in EU they're actually forced to.

What's your headphones btw?

I own both the shitstackuber and the fulla2, and I'm among these that can actually tell a difference with HD600.

FWIW, even if it wasn't the case, the extra gain the magni2 has is very appreciated on HD600.

>>59943228
I already have the 400i, just debating whether or not to get an hd600 or not

>>59943753
More of a sidegrade than an upgrade desu

>>59942950
SE215's then. I have both and while the M40x has pretty good isolation the SE215's are basically earplugs.

>>59943083
that's just capitalism bro

>>59944366
Yes, planned obsolescence is capitalism. Good goy!

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Does anybody here has ant experience with yaxi earpads? Thinking of getting some for my portapros.

>>59944554
They look thicker so I'd assume the bass would be reduced a bit. Throw in the Kramer mod and they'd be poorman's Grados.

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These are so fucking comfortable that I randomly shout, "HOLY FUCKING SHIT THESE ARE SO FUCKING COMFORTABLE!" while wearing them.

>>59944554

Koss brand ones are less than $2.50 for a pair. Do you think these are 5-6 times better than OEM?

Pardon my ignorance, I can't seem to access the infographic on sub $50 headphones so if someone could be so kind as to tell me whether or not these are shit, that'd be great

https://www.amazon.com/August-Bluetooth-Headphones-Multipoint-Microphone/dp/B00F54Y6GU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492476913&sr=8-1&keywords=august+ep650

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>>59944727
I know that feel, bruh.

>>59944828
They're low-quality overpriced no-name chinkshit.

>>59944828
k240

>>59944828
If you won't be wearing them in public, or don't care to look like a fool, buy any headphones with a detachable 3.5 cable and use something like an mpow bluetooth receiver.

>>59944940
I mean, the bluetooth aspect seems cool but I'm more interested in good quality sound. That being said this will be my first pair of headphones over $20 so I dont actually know what's good quality....

>>59944962
Then I would read the stuff in the OP to get some general ideas of what you're looking for, and fill out the form to get some more specific recommendations.

Your path to audiophile hell begins anon.

PS. Bluetooth will degrade the audio quality and isn't generally encouraged around here.

>>59944962
For below $50 assuming you're using them in public, Superlux HD 662 EVO's are pretty neat for their price. If you're using them at home 668B/SHP9500/HI2050 for open and Superlux HD 662(EVO)/669 for closed cans.

>>59944863
Wearing mine now. Cozy as fuck. They actually hurt my bit ears a bit at first since they protrude so much but after a few days it was smooth sailing.

>>59945027
They're indeed very comfy, wish the cups were deeper though, so my ears wouldn't touch.

>>59945014
How do they compare to those k240's anon linked?

>>59945041
Yeah, exactly what my problem is. It's why I was never big on over ears and always got buds. I'm happy with these though. These are my first """expensive""" headphones.

>>59944962
These were over $200 a few years ago, and highly reviewed at the time - currently clearance blow-out priced at $20, holy shit. I have a pair, as well as the redesigned "MKII" version... this original version is a little more bass heavy, but both versions of these will absolutely DESTROY anything in this price range.

Get them while you can, /hpg/.

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-28-Fidelio-Headphones-Remote/dp/B008OQLLT6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492477949&sr=8-1&keywords=fidelio+m1

Are the focal sphear legit for metal flac songs on Android? I've read reviews where they get praised or called solid buds, but I want /hpg/'s opinion.

>>59944601
Sounds like a plan!

>>59944778
Well, I'm looking for a comfier experience, hopefully with a side of sound improvement (realistic improvement, ofc). While nice, koss pads give me the impression that in a near future they'll degrade.

Can you point me to a better alternative?
Thxs m8

Need good replacement pads for my ath-m50x's.
I bought some shitty foam ones from amazon, wrecked the sound stage. Lows are way less pronounced.
Any advice?

>>59945050
K240 has very rolled off bass and grainy treble. Comfort can be iffy with the stock stiff pleathers.

668B is bright with a fat midbass hump, they're not very comfortable with stock pads.

SHP9500 has neutral bass and is somewhat bright with grainy treble though very comfy for watermelon heads.

HI2050's are Takstar's knockoff of DT880's. Neutral bass with slightly recessed mids and boosted treble. Pretty comfy on smaller heads.

Superlux HD 662 EVO's are bassy with treble getting dark past 13Khz. /effay/ aesthetic with detachable cable and 2 pairs of pads in the box (Pleather/Velour)

I have Samson SR950's (Superlux 669 Clones). They're essentially closed 668B's. They can get muddy and bloated at times and can help be tamed with EQ. Pretty good soundstage for closed headphones.

>>59945243
>koss pads give me the impression that in a near future they'll degrade

I don't know anything about the pads you posted... they might be great, I dunno. But I did buy the Koss 6-pack replacements a few years ago. I still have 2 pairs new in the package. They seem to last as well as any other foam pad, which for me is about 3 years if using them a few times a week.

but seriously, instead of paying $14 for cushions, spend $20 for these >>59945103

>>59945306
Dude, I appreciate the breakdown but I dont really understand what you said.

I mostly listen to metal and I love to hear the double bass of drums. I also exclusively intend on using these headphones with my phone. That being said, what's good that's on amazon and under like $60

>>59945306
>Neutral bass with slightly recessed mids and boosted treble

Tried these and sent them back.
The mids seemed very recessed to me, probably due to how bright how they were. Distorted guitars didn't have much clarity or crunch and vocals lacked presence.

They were very comfortable, about the only saving grace though.

>>59945349
Unless you're treble sensitive, you'll probably like the 668B's with HM5 Hybrid pads.

>>59945349
>I love to hear the double bass of drums

see
>>59945103
They are 16 ohm - perfect for phone use.

I might bump my post a time or two more tonight, then I'll stop shilling. This $20 deal is amazing, and will certainly not last long.

>>59945349
>>59945397
Maybe if he wants open, gonna guess he doesn't.

Just get something super cheap like the Tascam TH-02 if you can deal with a long cable, or Monoprice 8323 if you can't.

>>59945328
Thanks, but shipping to my 3rd world country would make that not an ideal buy, and yeah, seems like a silly amount to pay for pads considering how cheap portapros are. I'll stick with the stock pads, and once they show signs of dying, I'll decide on what to replace them with. Cheap eBay pads might be tried in the meantime.
Cheers m8.

>>59945103
Looks too good to be true.
Chances that they're fakes?

>>59945446

I never heard of these being faked, but I guess it might be possible... They have been out of production for a while. The prices on them have slowly creeped downward lately... I suspect this seller simply wants to clear out his inventory.

Does anybody know which iem are best at around 100€ ?

Thinking about
1. 1More Triple Driver
2. RHA MA750
3. Shure SE215

>>59945543
GR07 Bass Edition

>>59945427
Are they still worth it at $55? The $20 are on back order

>>59945446
They aren't popular enough for fakes to be made.
>>59945543
Etymotic Research HF5.

>>59945560
>>59945552
thx

>>59945555
First of all, chek'd.


>back order

well, SHIT. I was excited for a moment.

>$55
mmm, yeah, but not nearly the amazing deal of course.

>>59945635
alright cool, I got that Prime so if anything maybe I'll return them when the $20 ones come back in stock because I'm jewish like that

>>59945268
Auray Sheepskin pads. Similar size to the stock ones and isolate well so the sound doesn't change.

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Can anyone help me out?
>Budget
$300-375 including an amp, though I wouldn't mind spending less. Flexible.
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop at home. Portability doesn't matter. My motherboard is a PC Mate Z170A, which has a "Realtek® ALC887 Codec".
>Type of Headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Either is fine.
>Comfort level
Not too important.
>Sound signature
Bassy or warm.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 558's with the inner foam piece removed. No amp.

I know getting 558's without an amp wasn't good, I have to turn the volume very high to get any good bass. I do like really bassy music though. Essentially, what I want is to really improve on the bass without sacrificing the trebles or mids, because I listen to a wide range of music.

Also, does using an external amp/DAC cause latency >= 1ms?

>>59945993
I forgot to mention, I game and listen to ASMR, if there's a difference between 3D sounds or something. I don't know anything about that.

>>59944863
I wish all headphones were as comfy as the SHP 9500.

I regret buying better headphones - if I had just stayed with them and not known better, I would have been happy and richer.

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>>59945103
just ordered 2 pair to get free shipping. supposed to arrive between april 28 and may 3

>>59945993
Fidelio X2 + E10K.

>>59945027
>>59945041

There is a diy mod to give the cushions a little more "lift" which makes them deeper for you guys with ears that stick out... it involves cutting a ring of foam the same size as the cushions, and stuffing it between the cushions and the plastic ear cup body. google: shp9500 ear pad mod

>>59939144
Are the Koss PortaPros still a good buy?

Same with the ATH-M50x.

>>59940481
>144Hz monitor
idiot gamer

>>59946914
Yes
no

>>59947164
It's 2017, if you don't have a 120Hz+ monitor you should literally kill yourself.

>>59947301
>120hz instead of 4K
Go straight to >>>/v/

>>59947310
>tfw 27" 1080P @ 60 running off vga

>>59947410
Nothing wrong with that desu.
What's dumb is paying for a 144hz meme GAYMURR screen instead of a proper 4K panel.

>>59947496
>60Hz
>judder every where
>choppy animations

120Hz 1440p IPS is where it's at poorfags.

>>59947519
I bet that 120hz mommy bought you gets a lot of work done.
smelly dumb gamer scum

>tfw 32" 60 Hz 1080p
Like a true patrician of Chinese cartoons.

>>59947533
>work

>implying anyone on this shithole does actual work

kek

>>59947576
>I'm a fat fuck loser so everyone must be too
Some of us buy our headphones with our own money, hambeast.

/hpg/ - Monitor Resolution and Refresh Rates

>>59947586
>dat projecting

Are you upset, pajeet?

>>59947600
>dat projecting

Are you upset, pajeet?

>>59947586
>Some of us buy our headphones with our own money, hambeast.
What headphones? I bet it's some poorfag shit.

>>59947666
Orpheus HE-1. I bet you own some poorfag shit, loser.

>>59947696
Pic and timestamp now.

>inb4 excuses

>>59947712
Make me, poorfag.

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What do you recommend for sleeping if you sleep like pic related? I've been using my Monk+ but they fall out constantly which just ends up keeping me awake. I've used the type of ear buds before but if they even a centimeter of protrusion they create a full blown ear-fucking pressure penetration that is too uncomfortable in the ear on the pillow.

>>59947718
Nice excuse, enjoy your $10 headphones, poorfag.

>>59947734
Stop projecting, destitutefag. I could buy YOU. Then again, so could most people.

>>59947720
would tap

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>>59947586
>>59947621
>>59947696
>>59947718
>>59947745

The people with the highend stuff aren't necessarily the most rich.
They may just be the most irresponsible with their money lol.

>>59947807
still fat
still poor

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>>59947907
Projecting this hard really shows your insecurity.

>>59947907
I know you are but what am I?

>>59947951
>>59947955
Heh, try harder kiddo. I've wrecked kids like you ten ... no even twenty years ago.

>>59947960
Dad why do you shitpost on a headphone thread on a Mongolian painting forum? Get a life, pls.

>>59947975
My superior intellect has crushed yours and you are left with nothing but trite nothings

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>>59947985
>My superior intellect

>>59947996
you know it's true...
heh, i'm sorry but you've lost this one

>>59947996
I voted Hillary Trumpkid. Come step to me IRL, I will be able to hear you better because I haven't ruined my ears with shit poorfag kiddo headphones, kiddo.

>>59947720
you need speakers, anon

>>59948015
But you're fine ruining your neighbourhood with mexicans

>>59948015
>because I haven't ruined my ears with shit poorfag kiddo headphones

>he thinks NIHL has anything to do with headphone price and not exposure time / decibels

Full retard, kiddo.

>>59948346
Look kid you're poor I'm not, you lost, I won, I fucked your mom, you're a virgin, you're a kid, I'm a man, you can't step to me, I can step to you

gameover.flac

>>59948360
>not gameover.ogg

Literally a cable placebo faggot that wastes space on his storage devices.

>>59948453
Sorry, no, I used flac because I figured it was a poorpleb format you could decode. I only listen to uncompressed WAVs because I'm not a poor retard.

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>>59939233

>>59943712
I use the hd600 too. My fulla 2 honestly sounds great but if the highsa re better on the magni then I simply want that. I've already spend loads at this point anyway, an extra 100 won't matter. I don't have to go past 12 on the dial most of the time but now I'm conscious of the fact that I might not be getting the best quality when I do. And it's doing my fucking head in. at least with a magni I know I'm getting the 'best' out of it and on the plus side I'll still technically have a portable dac+amp in the fulla 2 so my setup would technically be better than a schiit stack when it comes to features. It won't look quite as nice but still decent.

So is it just stupid to get a non multibit bifrost? Wanna pair it with a magni 2u.

>>59949292
yes it's stupid, just buy a modi uber

>>59949292
From what I've heard, multibit dacs don't make an audible difference.

>>59945993
I know getting 558's without an amp wasn't good, I have to turn the volume very high to get any good bass. I do like really bassy music though. Essentially, what I want is to really improve on the bass without sacrificing the trebles or mids, because I listen to a wide range of music.
HD600 is a major improvement over 558/598, including bass, which gets both stronger and less bloated.

A decent amp/dac to get started is the fulla2.
>Also, does using an external amp/DAC cause latency >= 1ms?
Most latencies for DACs are sadly unknown as nobody's been arsed to measure them.

Using spdif (like modi2uber's spdif input, which I use) might improve situation, but how much is unknown. Neither usb nor spdif do feel bad on gaming so it probably isn't terrible, but even if I do not perceive it, there probably is some latency.

>>59949292
Either get a multibit modi or ditch the multibit altogether and get a modi uber.

People seem to like multibit for whatever reason, but it's not been properly double-blind tested, and measurements suggest a difference shouldn't be hearable.

Anyone got the T50RP's. I'm looking for replacement pads

>>59949453
hm5 pads are good on them but the sound is slightly worse than the stock pads due to the drivers being further away from your ears. I bought a few pairs of cheap chink pads from aliexpress in the past and one of them was just thick enough to be comfortable but still quite thin, it worked great before I sold the headphones. Buy a few and see if you get lucky. They're cheap as fuck so worth the gamble.

>>59949292
It's stupid to pay for multibit anything for the sake of it being multibit. It performs worse and costs more.

>>59950251
>costs more
Sure.
>Performs worse
According to which measurements? I did a little research back in the day, and it should be good, theoretically way past anything known to be hearable.

It *probably* sounds the same, too. But nobody's tested that properly. Lots of forums with people who say it sounds oh so good, but no serious testing.

>>59950294
According to the specifications Schiit(which I believe is the company in question) themselves provide of the multibit and delta-sigma versions.

>hearable
I would bet money on all of the products offered by Schiit in "standard" or multibit configurations to be safely transparent. Both designs can be used to achieve extremely high level of performance if properly designed. It's just that the other is harder to manufacture and thus more expensive while not providing any sort of benefit in return, not even on paper.

All the listening impressions I've seen can be discarded immediately. Like the usual, nobody actually seems to be interested to know if there is a difference but everyone wants to hear one so standard sighted listening it is.

>>59948360
>I fucked your mom

I can't wait for my son to grow up so I can tell him this every time he pisses me off.

>>59947696
Only a retard, a chink or an ayrab would buy the Orpheus HE-1. It is literally throwing away money.

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>>59939144
Hey guys, it's that anon who had the issue with the Fulla 2 on Windows 7 a few weeks ago. Hadn't been using my PC because was busy but I'm still having the issue. I've decided to try and record it to see if anybody here could make something out of what they see:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m39xvd27w24h2xx/Fulla%20Schiit.mp4?dl=0

Notice how the audio device and music are all freezing and then the audio that accompanies the mouse click doesn't work when it's frozen too.

>>59951054
Hi anon, have you tried the debugging steps outlined here?

http://schiit.com/faq/usb-problems

The cable and/or the power management might help.

>>59951076
I have. The first two don't apply to me because I have the driver on in my sound device and everything and I do hear audio but it freezes at a random point.

The solutions in the third one are what I've tried to no avail. And the weird part is that on my dual-booted Windows 10, the device works flawlessly.

>>59951099
http://www.thesycon.de/eng/latency_check.shtml

Give this shit a try... maybe somethink's causing terrible spikes on Win7.

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custom iem is a big meme right?

>>59950550
It's a collectible luxury item. Value will rise to if kept well.

>>59951190

Lads, looking at a pair of cans as I only have IEMs and some crap earbuds at the moment.

>Budget
$100-200 USD
>Source
Laptop into JDS labs C5D, will be looking into a Fiio X3
>Type of headphone
Cans, open or closed but would probably prefer closed.
>Comfort level
Not really an issue, as long as it doesn't make my ears sweat with cheap vinyl pads
>Sound signature
Neutral and fast, I'm ok with a slightly forward midrange if it comes with lots of detail.
>Past headphones
Shure E2C, ME6 pro, Roland IEMs

The KEF M500, AKG K553 PRO and Fostex T50RP look good, but I seriously have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to cans.

>>59951115
Am I supposed to just let this run until it reaches 1000 ps?

>>59951482
Just leave it in the background.

If it ever goes into the yellow territory, you have latency issues indeed.

Typically some bad driver or kernel-side service.

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>>59951553
Oddly enough it was green up until I opened Discord.

>>59951600
use latencymon instead

dpc latency checker is shit and always has been

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>>59951617
>latencymon

>>59951724
now go into process and drivers and see which ones are fucking you over

also try high performance power profile

>>59951054
This might sound crazy but try a different 1/4 jack if that's what you're using. I bought a new one the other day and it had me thinking that my fulla 2 had gone to shit for like 5 hours. Everything was crashing and nothing was playing. Then I switched back to my old adapter and it worked normally again. I couldn't fucking believe it. I didn't think a brand new little adapter had that kind of sway.

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>>59951732
What exactly should I be looking for to see what's 'fucking me over'?

>>59951741
Even with nothing but the USB attached for power/dta, it still freezes eventually.

>>59951889
That sucks. Hopefully the other anon gets it sorted for you.

>>59951889
looks to be a power management issue or OS issue, as you can see you dont have any drivers with a dpc over 242µs

Check the other tabs and see if theres anything related to that 1260.107742µs interrupt to processs latency

..how old is your OS install?

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hey /hpg/, total retard here. buying an amp to pair with HD 650 for my brother. massdrop has O2 on drop, is that recommended or should I go for schiit which seems to be the main mentions here?

budget is $150

>>59939534
Finally we enter the fantastic realm of real women with real headphones instead of cartoons!

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>>59951957
>..how old is your OS install?
Going to be a year since install on the 23rd.

Also the interrupt has gone up to this (pic related). I'll try to figure it out thanks.

>>59952107
Try high performance profile, disable power saving shit in BIOS

Update -all- drivers

If nothing of that works, reinstall OS

Reinstall OS worked for me, i was having literal pops and crackles, system hangs

nothing since reinstall.

>>59952062
this is a safe for work board, attention whore.

>>59947720
philips she3580 iem

>>59952152
There's no nudity in anon's pic though.
"Safe For Work" is a misnomer anyhow, if you're slacking off and not doing your work; it's not gonna matter what board you're on because any sensible boss would give you a warning for wasting their time and money anyway.

>>59939144
what's a good DAC/amp combo for 50 ohm Sennheiser 598s?

>>59952535
CREATIVE SOUND BLASSSTER ZXR EL1TE EDITION "Mac" CERTIFIED

>>59952608
thanks

>>59947410
>tfw same decade old TN 23" 1080@60 panel
Being poor is suffering

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HD 598s
Is there a better model in that price range, or am I set with these? I'm an audio pleb and am just looking for something quality I can plug into my computer that will be comfy for extended sessions

>>59951386
Get some Grado SR80i, they're pretty neutral from stock

>>59952815
>tfw same old TN 22" 1050p (yes not 1080) 120hz panel

>still better than most 144 panels cause it doesnt have pixel inversion and all that crap

>>59952840
theyre fine, the earpads are kinda shit in the long run (the plastic comes apart, my old 555's ones still no issues compared.)
Other than that theyre fine.

when it comes to comfy, theyre more than fine

>>59951617
I originally suggested DPC lat. The smallish tool does the job, but thank you for the suggestion!

I'll try latencymon sometime soon.

>>59951600
Miliseconds of latency -> bad.

Now you could try with the fulla on... if my guess is right, it'll have trouble when the latency is high.

>>59953557
DPC lat doesnt even work right past win7

Plus, latmon works right, AND can tell you whats fucking up, which is nice.


Kinda "Hey somethings wrong, good luck"
vs
"Hey, something wrong, heres how each driver and such is running, have a look at them and see if theyre out of line"

What DAPs would you recommend to use with Philips SHP9500?

I can't listen to music on my phone because it's a pain in the ass to use.

>>59952062
A fulla 2 (usb dac+amp) should suffice unless you want the volume pretty high. Some anon has as bunch of such devices, has done some tests and decided that it sounds better with HD600 than the e10k and the O2. YMMV, particularly with HD650. They should be about the same sensitivity and impedance wise anyway.

The next step is the magni 2 (amp only), which is what I use on my HD600, with modi2 as DAC, because my onboard audio sucks.

Advice is to just grab the fulla2. If you feel the gain is not enough (that you want even higher volume!), get the magni 2 later, but chances are you don't need it.

>>59952840
The HD599 is a real improvement, getting it much closer to the FR of HD600.

But not if it's like 40% more.

Generally speaking, you want to track amazon for sales (via camelcamelcamel or similar).

>>59951889
Sort by highest execution (ms).

>>59953723
>HD599
wouldn't it be better to buy 598 and a dac

>>59953818
Never. At this kind of question, get the more expensive headphone, always.

You might not need a DAC, your computer's might be just fine.

You might not need an amp if your motherboard has a headphone amp (many do these days). Without an amp, it won't sound like total shit either, just not at 100%.

>>59953818
>>59953858
Once you have your headphones, you can test them on your smartphone vs your PC.

Smartphones do tend to bundle a headphone amp.

If your PC is significantly worse (and only if so), then you can get something like the Fulla 2 (very good usb dac+amp with lots of connectivity options).

Hey lads, successful millionaire with a lust for good sounds, currently. I can't decide if getting the Orpheus headphones would be a good idea.
For that amount of cash, I'd better not be disappointed. Do you think Sennheiser has made these well? They're not pseudorich but rather perfectly designed pieces of tech?

>>59953906
i have this exact problem. I use my phone for all music currently

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>>59953778

>>59953906
Not him. But I've just now ordered a Fulla 2

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I got a pair of headphones in the 90s and I still use them every day I can't fucking believe they have lasted this long.
I had to look for a while on google before I could find a photo of them, they are old as I said.

SONY MDR-Z700/900
- cost me $300 in the 90s
- still flawless today, no repairs
- frequent daily use

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>>59940249

>>59953949
It's more of a marketing statement that reinforces their brand.

>>59953949
Beats by dr. dre

What, are you some kind of poorfag that cant afford beats?

>>59954045
Sadly nothing _that bad_ is visible in there :(

Maybe CPU sleep modes? Or latency spikes while changing cpu clock speeds (I had that with a core2 back in the day).

>>59953686
>gain
Voltage. Gain is the magnitude of the transfer function.

>>59953949
>Sennheiser HE-1
I found it very uncomfortable.
But if you actually had money, you wouldn't really consider silly set of headphones like the HE-1. It's a waste of your time.

>>59954030
Maybe order a fulla 2.

HD 599 or HD 650? Mainly for gaming, need to be comfortable for 4 - 8 hours. Already have monitors and dt880s for accuracy, but can't wear those for longer than an hour or two before it gets uncomfortable.

>>59955090
>need to be comfortable for 4 - 8 hours
I'd say go AKG if comfort is the most important criterion.

>>59955090
You could try DT770 Velours from Beyer themself or Amazon to help with the comfort on the 880's or AKG K712's for gaming. 599's are overpriced 598's with a little more bass and HD 650's have very narrow soundstage.

>>59955166
>better comfort than HD59x series
u wot m8

>>59955166
>>59955179
the 599s are only $40 more than the 598s for me so not a big issue. i don't like the dt880s that much for games anyway. those AKGs have round pads and i am guessing my ears will touch them instead of fitting inside the cups, which isn't really comfortable.

the 650s have narrow soundstage? was it not 600s that were more narrow and 650s less?

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>>59939233
Help, I need very cheap headphones under $30.
I don't need volume control, no mic.
KOSS ur 20?
Panasonic RP-HT265,
Sony MDR-V150,
Panasonic RP-HT360E-S,
Sony MDR-XD150B,
What is better for this price?

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>>59939233

>>59952535
Schiit Fulla 2.

>>59955090
HD650, HD599 is garbage. HD650 is also more accurate than the DT880.

>>59955090
I'd go HD600.

HD650 are generally considered worse. They have a little more bass at the cost of everything else, including comfort (bass is fatiguing).

>>59955380
what headphones?
>>59955326
this is me

>>59955274
Soundstage is a kind of coloring (read: distortion).

In general, and particularly with games, what you want is fairness to the source. HD600 is more neutral than HD650.

>>59955443
HD598

>>59955460
haha me too

>>59955464
mines just set up to make up for where the HD598 falls short a bit

Should be as flat as the EQ allows it to be

>>59955433
>>59955457
Shill harder HD600/shit anon.

>>59955425
>>59955433
>>59955457
well this became considerably harder to decide. fairness to the source is not super important in this purchase for me, i was going for more soundstage to hear direction of sounds better. not going to consider the 600s for this so it's still between 650s and 599s. anybody that has or had both that could say which are more comfortable?

>>59955603
HD599 is more comfortable, but it's a garbage headphone.

Opinions on the Sennheiser HD 579?

>>59955668
how much more garbage than the 650s could they be?

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>>59955425
>599 is garbage
>everyone loves the 598
Am I being rused? I was going to pick up 598s this weekend

>>59955350
bump

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>>59939233

>>59955730
wondering this too, aren't the 599s literally same except for tiny more bass

>>59955418
how does it compare to the FiiO - E10K Olympus

Are the LCD-2s seriously known for bad build quality? I must just be lucky since I've had mine for almost 4 years now and not particularly treated them well and they're as good as the day I bought them.

ITT: HD600 is better than everything

Are the 668b's small or is my head huge?

My head nearly touches the metal band, and the clamp is strong.

>>59956253
668B is small. I have a relatively small head and I'm maybe 1.5 inches away max from the bars.

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>>59939233
EQ for everything but games on my K702

>>59956379
why not games tho

>>59956393
I prefer the standard sound of my headphone for games, because it makes footsteps much clearer, also I don't like too much bass while playing games.

>>59956379
>VLC

You know what to do.

>>59956429
kill myself?

>>59956419
Ah, thought you had used your EQ for a flat response

>>59956429
RICO, YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO!

>>59956449
I used my eq for a flat response infact, but the right amount of sub-bass is still too much for me in games.

>>59955730
>everyone loves the 598
>1 shill is everyone

>>59956485
>implying the same can't be said for calling the 598 garbage

>>59956485
>3000+ reviews on amazon
>4.6 out of 5 stars

Oy vey

>>59956469
alright then
id probably do the same, but i cba to switch it on and off.

>>59956517
I don't think they are garbage. Just mediocre and overhyped.

>>59956529
Are you trying to imply that amazon reviews are good source of information when choosing audio equipment?

Question

why not use an usb audio interface, if most of you just only use your computer to listen anyway? for example https://www.steinberg.net/en/products/audio_interfaces/ur_series/models/ur22mkii.html

am i missing anything?

http://www.accessoryjack.com/sennheiser-hd600-open-dynamic-hifi-professional-headphones.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjw8tbHBRC6rLS024qYjtEBEiQA7wIDealW-72DXYsAmQWJWCPy3gDL9VX_5vigBMWcONd0Q6caAj0A8P8HAQ

How much should I trust this site?

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>>59939233
The only EQ is currently use is the one on my bass amp (which i'm about to clean by the way)

>>59956638
>I don't think they are garbage. Just mediocre and overhyped.
Do you have any suggestions in that budget that you think blows them away? Do you think most "reviewers" are wrong in their assessment of those cans?

>>59956638
Name a few better alternatives. I can think of one on the top of my head but I won't say it.
>>59956648
I've bought headphones from this site already, it's good. I've owned over 100 headphones.

>>59956702
>Do you have any suggestions in that budget that you think blows them away?
AKG k612

>Do you think most "reviewers" are wrong in their assessment of those cans?
I think most reviewers think way too much of those headphones. I'm pretty confident majority of them have never owned better headphones and have never had a chance to compare them to anything else that's half decent. HD598 are very decent option at price point, but it's not second coming of jesus like some people like to believe.

>inb4 b-but you need amp for k612
It will sound better without amp too. And you can actually save up for dac/amp later and have headphones that will be able to utilize that. Or not, then you will have nice knob.

>>59956847
>AKG k612

Sensitivity is too low for the average pleb that wants a simple plug in and use headphone.

I get it, you want to be contrarian.

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>>59956847

>>59956643

pls respond

>>59956955
people here prefer amps/dacs because they were specifically designed for headphones and are not an afterthought

not that an interface is bad, if you've got one no need to get a headphone dac/amp

>>59956955
I already have a very decent soundcard with plenty of output swing.

>>59957075
>>59957173
so it's only good for outdated gear these days?

Anybody else feel like the difference in sound between desktop tower's onboard sound card with 48000 Hz and an amp with 96000 Hz isn't really worth the money? I think a good pair of cans is all you need.

Do I need an amp to drive the X2?

Tangentially related, whats a decent soundbar for 250 or less? A sub isnt fully required but would be very nice, if i can get a good bar and a sub for 300$ ill do it. Recs? Im a little unsure on alot of these ~150$ Samsung/Vizio/Sony type things. Im not chasing best sound just a good step up from built in TV speakers. on my new LG 4k

>>59957274
For computer sound, good speakers/headset is more important then "muh sound card".

>>59956643
I use a Focusrite Scarlett 8i6, but i got it mostly because of the 24-bit/96kHz resolution, comes in handy when working with stuff above 16bit/44kHz, the extras ins/outs are also welcome.
If you are only going to listen to headphones though i don't see why you shouldn't go with a specialized Amp for it.
>>59957274
For pleasure listening? Yeah, good headphones and speakers are more important.

>>59956648
Bax-shop sells it for 277€.

>>59957386
No, they're very efficient and can be run off a phone or console controller.

>>59957560
Is there any loss in quality from not using an amp?

>>59957183
It's literally perfect for laptops, or if you have to plug/unplug devices regularly.

>>59955730
>>59955792
FR disagrees.

HD599 is much closer to HD600.

>>59957588
Probably not. If there is, you're probably getting 90/95% of the sound quality of X2's this is just my speculation.

>>59955852
e10k
- a bit cheaper
- "bass boost" switch
fulla 2
- way higher specs
- huge volume knob
- has line in (can act as standalone amp for another source)
- has two extra outputs (with and without volume), for chaining a big amp, speakers or whatever.
- made in the us
- anon who has both says it sounds considerably better with HD600.

Pretty much.

>>59957645
Thanks mane

>>59957705
thanks
too bad it's not on amazon where I live

Budget: 200$. Although I can go 300.
Location: Illinois, USA.
Source: usb, but I have the normal dp
>Fullsized
>closed
>high comfort if possible. The less I feel it the better.
>Past headphones: logitech g35 headphones

I would like to get a standalone microphone and headset so I could make videos, but grest headphones would be great either way.

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thoughts on v moda crossfade m100?

>>59958190
I'm looking for a midrange headphone that can be used for gaming and mobile listening.

I feel like the v-moda is crossfade m100 is a good compromise because it allows functionality with the microphone without looking ridiculous when carried in public.

>>59957895
If you don't live in US don't bother. Schiit only cares about sales in US and it's only a good deal there. If you live in EU you will pay customs and taxes on top of paying quite a bit for shipping itself. At this point it's better to get different dac/amp.

>>59958222
Cheapest option for that use I could think of are Somic MM185/Status CB-1's with a BoomPro. I'd personally would go Custom One Pros with a Vmoda BoomPro when gaming at home and the stock cable for when outside and it'd still be cheaper than M100's.

>>59958222
>>59958190
>gaming and mobile listening
Sorry but that's fucking dumb. I will never understand the idea of mixing home phones with outside phones. Not only you get inferior product, you also end up damaging your headphones much faster.
Just get some chinky iems like kz-ate or pistons 3 and use that for commute while keeping your main headphones safe at home. Also this way you won't look like turboautist.

It's getting pretty stupid with these amplifier questions and advice.

1. Every device that makes headphones play a sound acts as an amplifier and therefore is an amplifier.
2. Getting a discrete amplifier doesn't inherently entail any quality different for better or worse.
3. Purpose of an amplifier is to increase volume without doing anything else.
4. You can't answer a simple Y/N to people asking whether there's a quality difference or whether they need an amp in the first place if you don't know exactly what they want. This is because...
a) Headphone loads differ
b) Output qualities differ
c) Requirements for loudness differ

You can make an educated guess as embedded audio circuitry tends to operate within a certain output level range(0.5-2 Vrms) and explain it in simple terms e.g. "these headphones are quite insensitive so they might need an amplifier to play loud enough for you" or the reverse if the headphones are easy to drive.

>>59939144
Is the JBL Everest V300 good?

I wanted a Bluetooth headset, and this one is 50% cheaper here.

>>59956643
I use that very interface at the moment as my O2 crapped itself somehow.

>why not use an usb audio interface, if most of you just only use your computer to listen anyway?
Usually not a choice for audiophiles. The headphone output quality can be poor or lack power. I have my HD 800s plugged into that. With EQ I need to turn the volume knob all the way to have good listening volume. It does its job but isn't ideal. I have some other gripes about that specific interface, too.

>>59957183
Nothing to do with age. Interface has its uses and it's a handy multi purpose device in some applications. I kind of wish there were more high quality desktop ones on the market.

>>59958362
>inferior product
how so?
>damaging your headphones much faster
That's a bit hard with V-Moda though.

>>59957895
Schiit sells directly in the US: http://schiit.com/

And through these retailers elsewhere:
http://schiit.com/faq/international

>>59958305
>>59958635
give me an EU alternative. Fiio is out of the picture

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what songs does /hpg/ use to test headphones?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USWf-DSHQpM

Hello guys, I got three pairs of Wehrmacht headphones today. They have an impedance of 2000 and 4000 ohms. Can I just try them out on an amp that normally takes 8-32 ohms?

>>59959134
I've used https://schiit.eu.com/ before.

They ship fast.

>>59959443
it costs much more than in the US

>>59959182
Wehrmacht Kopfhörer?
An issue would be the lower sensitivity compared to anything made in the last 25-30 years.
Besides that, nothing else electrically should stop you from being able to use them.

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>>59939323
Dumb frogposter.
>>59940040
It's surprising you haven't done anything about the piercing treble. The bass adjustments are decent but the lower mids shouldn't need boosts.
You need to set the preamp to -11 dB. I think the peak value meter is based around a midrange tone and ignores bass and treble boosts entirely.
>>59949086
The 8 kHz dip is strange and makes no sense if based entirely on measurements. You need to work out the treble for yourself. If you got an average pair of ears and an average pair of HD 650s, you're gonna need something like a 5 dB boost between 6 and 9 kHz.
>>59955326
>>59955380
Both of you should lower the preamp. The Q factors are not visible so I only have a vague sense of how it's going to alter the FR. >>59955380 seems to have the right idea, but it's unlikely you will achieve a great result with a graphic equalizer.
>>59955751
Looks really good. Consider adding 1-2 dB more gain from 20 to 40 Hz, cutting another 2 dB from 200 Hz to 1 kHz and boosting the 1.2-2 kHz area just a tad more.
>>59956379
Your intentions are good, but both the gain values and Q factors could both use some major adjustments. The boost to the sub-bass is overkill, the cut to the lower mids is nowhere large enough (both in gain and Q), and a cut half the size of the current one should be enough to deal with the 2-3 kHz peak. And you should stick to peak filters only.
>>59956694
I've been meaning to clean the pot for my amp, but I can't seem to find a screwdriver small enough for the screws in the chassis. Keep us updated.

>>59960729
668B EQ boy here, the picture's oldish. The low mids are back to zero and the pre-amp is at -8 dB at the moment.

Hey /g/ today I picked up an HD650 in excellent condition for $200, how did I do?

>>59960856
That pretty damn good actually

after many years my DT770s are broken and dead. What's the new hot shit when it comes to closed headphones these day? Same kinda price range.

>>59961078
What type of headphone are you looking for friend? Any preferences?

>>59960856
Pretty damn good.

I saw one for that much on Craigslist, but I didn't feel like driving 4 hours to pick it up, so I finally said fuck it and bought an open box one for $260.

Going to use it with my Fulla 2 at home until I can save up for something better, then use the Fulla 2 at work. But with what? What's the closed equivalent of the HD 650?

>>59958362
>iems

Am I the only one who hates IEMs? My head feels stuffy, they're either uncomfortable or slip out, and they look disgusting really quick. I'll take looking like an autist over any IEM.

>>59961092
Closed, loud and nice bass. I mostly listen to awful quality hardcore punk, watch movies and play games.
No real preferences when it comes to brands, but I don't really just want the same ones again. It's time to move on. Budget is like 150-200.

>>59961136
Same for me. Not even comply foam tips helped.

>>59961136
If I could keep my ears clean 24/7, I would wear IEM's. I've got PortaPros holding me over until I could get a decent pair of portable over ears.

>>59961158
v-moda m100 with xl pads or used x2's maybe. I've seen the m100's go on sale for like 150 before.

>>59961207
>>59961207
>>59961207
>>59961207

New thread.

>>59961198
>>59961158
To add to his suggestion, Custom One Pros/Studios

>>59957588
I found a loss in quality when using the front panel audio connectors, but the back integrated soundcard ports and the fulla 2 sounded the same to me.

>>59942612
m40x for sure. Those headphones are just about the only ones worth it for the $100 range

>>59945268
different headphones

>>59947519
The human eye can't tell the difference between 60hz and 120hz+; The only difference is reaction time, and that doesn't matter unless you're playing competitive games.

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I have $250 and want closed. What are we talking here?

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>>59956909
>Sensitivity is too low for the average pleb that wants a simple plug in and use headphone.
Audio pleb here, what does that mean? I was thinking of picking them up because I like the aesthetic, but I am one of the people that would just plug it in and forget about it.