/hpg/ - Headphone General

Did we run out of anime girls wearing headphones?

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Friendly reminder that if you're wondering 'w-what is the best closed/noise-cancelling headphones??!!?', just buy some 3M ear-defenders and some earbuds of your choice. You wont be able to hear shit and people with their head pressed against yours wont be able to hear what you're listening to.

>>59896486
for cheap high quality bluetooth earphones i like trelabs xr100 as for over ear headphones i went cheap and just got status audio for $70 not worth it but good build quality

>>59896521
But earbuds can't niggerbass.

>>59896521
BJ?!

>>59896544
People who want niggerbass probably aren't browsing this thread.

I'm wearing 3M Peltor Optime III's right now and using Panasonic Ergo-Shit's listening to music very quietly and can't hear myself typing on my IBM Model M as I type this.

>>59896486
OP image fell for the DSD meme.

>>59896521
If you want to take this a step further, you can mount the drivers from some on-ears (rather than over, because it's easier) into the cups for a comfier experience.

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>>59896591
If you do this your music will sound like shit and you wont get the full sound blocking effects. People who work with artillery (an extreme example obviously) wear ear defenders plus earplugs, by wearing ear defenders and earbuds you're giving yourself way more protection from the outside world than just ear defenders on their own and there's no impact at all on the quality of sound

Don't believe me the whole setup will cost you fuck all from Ebay, try it yourself. The top tier 3M industrial eardefenders cost fuck all.

I own the Optime II and Optime III and to be honest there isn't much difference between the two, if you're going to use them in public go for the Optime II as it's almost as good but you don't look like a huge faggot. The Optime III sticks out like three inches, they are huge. I think the Optime III is just for people who are surrounded by seriously fucking loud shit (gunshots, artillery etc.) every day of their life and need every extra percent to save their ears.

>>59896670
Will it work with my Apple Earpods?

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Are there truly wireless bluetooth headphones with earhooks that don't suck yet?

Was very excited for pic related but they apparently are mediocre at best, mainly because the headphones desync from each other, which I thought would be fixed because they just stuck a huge antennae in the earhooks but apparently its still not enough.

Is the technology just not there yet?

>>59896800
>Wireless
>that doesn't suck?
No such thing. Not even need to narrow the requirements further. Wireless seals the deal.

>>59896800
Hearing aids with bluetooth are actually the best.
They cost a fuckton though...

>>59896817
I don't even care about sound quality that much. I just want some that stay synced.

Best portable DAC for under 100$? recently fell for the HD 558 meme but I'm feeling that I'm not getting the best of it.

Can I get recs for closed or semi open pairs under $400 that complements the HD600 for anything it may lack?

>>59896948
Sabre USB Tiny. You can get it in Micro USB.
I use my Sabre USB Asynchronous with a Type-C to USB-A converter, but that's massive overkill.

>>59896521
woah are earmuffs effay now?
>>59896544
KZ ATE

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Anyone have one of these? I want a unidirectional mic that will only pick up my voice and not my keyboard. This looks like an attractive option.

>>59897000
If you have a mechanical keyboard, you'll need something with active noise cancelling.

>>59896521
I've actually been experimenting with this but the muffs I have press on my iems uncomfortably. Do those muffs have a lot of internal volume? Can we talk about low profile items? Or, comfortable enough to sleep in? I used to have meelectronic a151s which were comfy, but then I lost them. Now I have etymotic mc5s, but they stick out a lot.

>>59897011
I do have a loud mechanical keyboard

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Welp, returned my Sennheiser hd600. Sounds way worse and bass hardly has any affect like the ATH-A90X.

Audiotechnica for life I guess.

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Does anyone have pic related? They get good reviews on amazon and newegg. Was thinking of getting a pair...

I've decided not to buy headphones because there are no objective comparison standards and I'm autistic. I'm just going to give up on sound altogether and throw away my $10 iems too.

>>59897988
what about those frequency response charts

>>59898085
Even high-end fr graphs aren't flat. There's just no way to put quality on a scale.

>>59897000
Yeah I have it, ask away

And no it won't pick up your keyboard unless you use your chin to press space bar, at least in unidirectonal

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>>59897369
>returned a neutral monitoring headphone advertised as "flat" because it doesn't have enough niggerbass

>>59896980
DT770 would be a solid choice, different from HD600 and one of the best closed cans.

>>59897369
Why didn't you get the HD650s instead you retarded nigger?

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ausfags this is our chance

>>59899465
To go along with those DT770's, TH-X00's are also pretty nice though you might want to switch the pads out.

>>59899684
I second these recommendations, the hd600's have rolled off treble and bass and the x00's and 770's have emphasized treble and bass.

>>59896486
Damn the meze 99 must be zreviews best rated for the price

Even the fostex can barely compare. I think I know where $300 is going

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Is there any good reason not to pre-order these?

>>59899486
Because it was like $100 more than the HD300 for slightly more bass.

>>59900469
listened to them at canjam, nothing special about the sound in particular.

>>59900735
Any particular flaws you noticed? Niggerbass and icepick treble can both give a "wow" factor to headphones, but are unpleasant in the long run, so an initial impression of "nothing special" is a good start as far as I'm concerned. Also, were they comfortable?

>Budget
100 €
>Location
Spain
>Source
Computer case
>Type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
open or semi open
>Comfort level
don't care
>Sound signature
neutral, none of that extra powerful bass shit
>Past headphones
SONY MDR-V55

I was looking into the Grado sr60e and the AKG k240
Which is better? Any other suggestions?

>>59896516
Fuck anime.

>Budget - up to $200, although I would like it to be cheaper than that

>Location - USA

>Source - Laptop or Phone

>Type of headphone - Full Sized preferred, but if you feel strongly about a certain IEM, I would be willing to look into it

>Open or closed - Closed only

>Comfort level - As comfortable as possible, as I will be wearing them for extended periods of time

>Sound signature - I would like more bassy headphones, but hopefully not to the point that it takes away from the actual quality of the sound (I'm not sure if it actually works like that I don't know much about headphones) I'm an avid hip-hop listener and when gaming, I love that feeling when it's almost as though you are feeling the sound

>Past headphones - The first expensive headphones I've owned were 558's. I liked how clear the sound was, but the bass was practically non-existent for me. Unfortunately they were stolen so here I am.

Thanks for any help

>>59890268
What boards are they? I doubt they are all the same and obviously different boards will have different realtor DACs and algorithm.
Did you actually test them double blind while bypassing the amp?

Could anyone share some insight on the following:
Sennheiser HD 380, HD 569, HD 579
AKG K 181 DJ and K 271 Mk II

Are the DT 770s hard to drive?

>>59901131
The 600 ohm ones, yes.

DT 770 vs DT 990?

I know about their differences on paper, looking for personal experiences here.

Would I suffer audio quality loss if I plug my audio gear into monitor that connects to PC via HDMI, instead of direct into motherboard 3.5?

>>59900469
Pre-ordering is a suckers bet in general. If you burn yourself, you were asking for it.
He will probably make some revision to it in a few months.
Sound is like the Ether, a little shelf lift to the low end and somewhat reduced treble level in general.

>>59900469
>pre-ordering
I can't think of a worse way to purchase audio equipment than that.

>>59901526
dt770 does have a lot of sub-bass and the treble doesn't bother me. I like it, it's a nice headphone.

>>59897988
There are objective ways to make comparisons and a few ways to objectively rank something to be better than the other. Challenge is to tie that into something audible and meaningful. Understanding your own preferences comes with experience and training. Understanding the data requires you to study it a little.

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>>59899500
Kinda tempted by that desu, can throw the SDR in there.

Also that discount on the 800 S is just below what I sold mine for

>>59902104
Why did you sell the 800s?

I want to get the HD600 but what Amp should I get for it? I would like my music to be not distroted as possible

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Got rid of some of my unused headphones and bought some new ones.

Gonna sell the RE-400s, fucking hate IEMs in general.

>>59902183
Just get a Fiio E10k or something, it doesn't matter that much.

>>59902208
I heard that amp isn't enough to make the HD600 loud enough though, why doesn't it matter much?

>>59902213
It's probably audiophool bullshit desu. The AT-PHA50BT is enough to make the HD600 loud enough. Look it up.

>>59902213
Yeah that's complete bullshit, while it's true there are better options realistically the difference is going to be so minute it's not worth your money.

I wish my ears would stop rining
fucking ruins everything

>>59902269
ringing

>>59902254
I have the TAKSTAR headphone and I get a hiss static noise, going for a hd600 what DAC would I get? If its bullshit why do people say that Amp isn't enough or that after going for a better amp they could hear a difference?

>>59902280
>I have the TAKSTAR headphone and I get a hiss static noise
Then you obiously will benifit from an external AMP/DAC
>If its bullshit why do people say that Amp isn't enough
In extreme cases some Headphones can benifit from specific AMPs
> or that after going for a better amp they could hear a difference?
placebo, doesn't really count for Tubes though

>>59902269
>>59902278
go see a doctor, idiot.

>>59902310
The max power output of the HD600 can handle is 200mW and the FiiO E10K has a max power output of 200mW so when I get it would I just need to max out the amp?

>>59902337
I have there's nothing to be done about it

>>59902342
Unfortunately I'm simply not edcuated enough to get into the specifics but I'm telling you right now, the E10K will have no problem pushing the 600

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>>59901650
>Pre-ordering is a suckers bet in general. If you burn yourself, you were asking for it.
I agree, and should know better, but the $100 discount tempts me. It's a decent chunk of money saved if I like them, and makes it easier to flip at a minimal loss if I don't.

>>59901899
I almost never get the chance to audition equipment, so unfortunately it's par for the course. Initial measurements put them right up my alley, though.

>>59902150
I use my speakers more so they eventually just became an expensive paperweight.

I prefer the sound of the 6XX anyway.

>>59902363
Last question, would there be a different between the EK10K and Objective 2 for the HD600?

>>59902401
Not much that you would notice, it would get louder and that's just about it. It's a fantastic entry-level combo. Keep in mind that the O2 has better I/O on the back if you plan to use speakers or whatever

Is there a point in getting an amp if I use a poorfag setup with some $90 headphones and some internal realtek PC audio chip?

>>59902442
no

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I got a pair of used ad500x's with shure 1540 pads today and I'm a little disappointed in them. I heard the highs and female vocals in the ad lineup were VERY good, but I feel they are a little rolled off in this headphone.
I don't know if it's just the 500x's that are an exception, if the pads have messed them up, or what, but they don't sound nearly as clear as I was expecting.
I do enjoy hearing the large soundstage they have though, that's pretty fun. The wing system is a little awkward, but if I stop thinking about them, they're comfortable. I think they are a very pretty pair of headphones too.
For $40 shipped, I'm glad I bought them.

>>59902442
Do you need your headphones louder? Is there any hissing/noticeable distortion? No? Well congratulations, save your money.

>>59902208
Someone really likes neutrality. Do any of those ever sound thin or lacking in bass? Was interested in a few of them

>>59902461
How would you know that there is a distortion in your music?

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>buy fulla 2
>doesn't work properly on windows 7
>has annoying crackling sound in right ear
>only benefit is slightly better audio from my onboard sound card and the ability to reach volumes so loud that I might as well be using speakers

>>59902604
Isn't that exactly the point? If you can't hear any distortion don't worry about it.

>>59902633
If I had an £20 headphone how would I know my music is distorted? I don't have something to listen that is 100% clear and neutral to to compare

>>59902456
Are the 1Mores any good? Do they need an amp to be loud? I hear they don't isolate very well

>>59902629
>windows 7
>using an almost decade old OS in 2017

>>59902667
A very difficult question, especially when you don't have anythng to compare against.

I honestly don't have an answer, you either heat it or you don't. Sorry

>>59902740
Well Windows 10 is shit and I don't feel like learning loonix

>>59902739
>Are the 1Mores any good?
I love them, I got them for $68 and would even buy them at $99
>Do they need an amp to be loud?
Not at all, 99% of iems don't need an amp since they're so sensitive.
>I hear they don't isolate very well
Correct, and they're a bit microphonic, but having the wire go under my shirt solves that problem.

>>59902788
>Well Windows 10 is shit
Relative to Windows 7 it's a masterpiece.

7 is and always was absolute garbage and anyone who thinks that glorified Vista Service Pack was anything more than that doesn't know what they're talking about.

>>59896486
Just got the golden MDR-1000x. Such a nice looking pair of cans.

The noise cancelling is shit compared to Bose, but sounds very very nice. The gimmicky "place hand to stop audio" is shit, because any normal human won't understand that you can hear them.

>>59902802
It really isn't. It's an unfinished OS that forces vague updates every few days and doesn't even have proper support for its own applications exclusive to the platform. If you disable all the telemetry and updating through registry and other mojo, you'll have a buggy and unfinished OS and can't use it for anything that comes in the future that you installed the OS for anyway. If you download any update, it adds back anything you disabled or removed.

I don't even want to go into my experience with Xbox on it. I'll just say the app is abysmal and MS is doing nothing about it despite forcing people to install the shit OS for their games (Yes, even Xbone has the shit OS).

>>59902851
>If you disable all the telemetry
The only way to disable all 'spying' is to pull the ethernet cable from your PC, no matter what operating system you use.

>>59902629
Have you tried disabling Selective USB Suspend in Power Options? That's usually the problem with these USB devices

>>59902401
O2 will drive them louder depending on the gain options you use. O2 has lower self noise and it has no DAC functionality. O2 comes in many options so the features and pricing of it varies.

>>59896948
Fulla 2 is the best budget pocket-friendly amp/dac.

Certainly not worth it to get _any_ dac/amp for just an HD558. Think about it when/if you're to buy more headphones.

>>59897369
Welp, enjoy your niggerbass.

HD600 wasn't for you in the first place. I bet you tried them for like one hour.

>>59902863
That's why I stopped giving a shit about the telemetry. Not like I'm actually doing anything out of the norm anyway.

>>59902104
Nice waifu. The coffee/tea is a nice and warm detail.

Excellent taste in headphones.

>>59902183
Fulla 2 or, if you like it loud, Magni 2.

Some anons confirmed e10k is shitty with HD600, so avoid that one.

>>59902213
It apparently distorts, particularly makes a mush of the low end.

Or so I've heard. I'm not the anon that tried it against a Fulla 2.

>>59902342
Amp power output is tied to load impedance. How it is affected by that depends on the design of the amp, but generally, unless on tubes, higher impedance means lower output.

Fiio e10k can barely output a trickle of power at 150ohm, and it lists that load being its maximum, on its specs.

HD600 load impedance is over 300ohm.

>>59902629
Selective USB Suspend options might help. Else, just use Linux or Windows 10, where it's fine by default.

Is there a list of headphones that are comfortable for people who wear glasses?

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what's better, grado sr60e or akg k240?

>>59903431
K7XX-K712

>>59903443
That's not a list but thanks for your input anyway

>>59903431
Anything over-ear as long as your glasses mount is adjusted properly.

Meaning, the glasses should touch your head (rather than be separate) in the areas the headphones do.

Need some actual headphones
>Budget
$50-60, $75 if extreme quality
>Location
United States
>Source
I have the headphone jack, microphone jack, and usb
>Type
Unless they're extremely durable, definitely full sized.
>Open or Closed
Prefer open, but I'm open to suggestions
>Comfort level
They don't need to be very comfortable, but I should be able to wear them for 2+ hours without having to take them off
>Sound signature
I don't think I've ever used high enough quality headphones to form a preference for this, so I'm open to suggestions.
>Past headphones
>Turtle Beach X12's
I used these 5+ years ago for gaming on a toaster, honestly don't remember
>Skullcandy Ink'd IEM's
I've used these pretty frequently and the sound quality is nice, however they always seem to break within a month or two despite me treating them like some sort of holy object
>Kotion Each G9600
I honestly think the version I have is some shitty ripoff. These suck, they're uncomfortable, and the mic is terrible and picks up noise from the headphones. I bought these when my sades headset broke
>Sades sa-810
Mediocre, my second longest lasting headphones behind X12's. Biggest issue before they stopped working was the padding on the earpads was wearing off and it felt like sandpaper.
>FTONDA ftep12 IEM's
Best IEM's I've ever owned, I treat these like shit and they've lasted longer than any IEM I've ever owned, great sound quality when the noise cancellation is turned on. The only problem I have with these is that they're made for mobile, they're nice for my phone but my laptop doesn't have the plug for the noise cancellation, and I can't charge my phone while using these earbuds.
>Sony MDRZX100
great quality for the price, also pretty durable. Only problem is I listen to music at uni and in my dorm room and unless you're listening at ridiculously low volumes everyone around you can hear your music (for reference, I could have my phone at volume 1 and people could still hear it)

You guys should rename this /homebound general/ since you can't leave the house wearing those autistic baked bean cans on your ears

>Budget
around 50€
>Location
germany
>Source
mobile phone
>Type of headphone
in ear
>Comfort level
has to be really good (shouldn't hurt after 8h)
>Sound signature
whatever, should have good quality at least
>Past headphones
superlux shit, they broke yesterday
it doesn't have to be high end shit, i just want something to listen to music at a price where i won't be pissed if i lose them.

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rate my Philips

What's the cheapest I could spend on a speaker set or boombox without it ruining le classical et le jazz with shrillness or bottom-heaviness?

>>59903604
>$50-60, $75 if extreme quality
Maybe save a little more money, if you want "extreme quality"?

HD599, 598, 558. Maybe used would bring the higher models within budget.

Avoid the new 559, only seen negative feedback for these, apparently a downgrade from 558.

>>59903672
lol wireless.

Glad I fell for the QC35 meme after I went through a dozen pads and wires for the QC15

>>59903880
>QC35+QC15.
FFS, try something non-bose sometime.

>>59904128
I don't want to listen to my wife talking to her bf

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>>59904170
I don't want to hear my wife's son screaming

>>59902337
you cant do anything about tinnitus. hair cell damage are irreversible.

is the treble too high on the DT770 ? i'm not used to high treble so it can bother me

>>59904314
???

tfw to smart to buy expensive cans

>>59902629
>only benefit is slightly better audio from my onboard sound card

And that's all you're gonna get. What the fuck did you expect? I have the fulla 2 and it's the best amdp+dac by far around this price range. mine slightly makes a 'scratching' noise in my right side when I turn the volume knob. That's the only negative with mine and you can barely hear it when you're listening to music, and it takes up like 1 second of adjusting volume time. It works with windows 7. you're clearly doing something wrong.

>>59902401
I've owned them both with my 600's and they sound nearly exactly the same. I sold my e10k for a fulla 2 and it's better than both imo.

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I guess this is kind of weird but.. I don't know where else to ask. Anyone ever feel claustrophobic or short of breath when wearing totally closed noise cancelling headsets? It always happens for a little bit while I adjust to new headsets.

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>>59904635
>tfw to rich to not buy expensive cans

>>59904821
Haven't used closed headphones for a long time but that sounds a little anxiety related to me. Maybe you're conscious of your breathing because you can hear it more.

>>59904835
That sounds kind of like what it might be then. I noticed my breathing a lot more.

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Are klipsch good
Looking into the hybrud reference xr8i in ears since i can get em for 131
Any suggestions for earbuds

>>59902456
And I thought I was up to too many headphones.

Which ones do you use the most?
I'm assuming some have specific purposes for you.

>>59903733
The cheapest?

Some shitty Bluetooth speaker.

>>59904424
It's all subjective, may or not.

I don't find the treble overbearing, and you can eq the highs down.

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I want open headphones for up to 100 bucks

Should I jump on the shp9500 bandwaggon?

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I bought the Bose AE2's about 5 years ago for $170. been using them daily since then. My only complaint is I/ve had to replace the chord like 3 times

>>59903213
>fulla 2
>pocket friendly
nigga are you asking for a broken pot?

>>59899500
HD600's are also cheap as tits
good old A2A

>>59901526
770's have sub-bass. 990's don't have much. 990's have better soundstage and imaging.

>>59905307
558/598 > 9500

>>59905586
>>> 558/598 > 9500
False
>>>

>>59905597
Mind elaborating?

>>59905307
They're good if you get em for $55.
More pronounced mids and highs, less bass than 558's.

Very comfortable though, and the 3.5 detachable cable is nice.

Akg 612's used would probably fit into your budget as well.

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>>59905603

>>59905586
I want headphones that look good, senheisers are too ugly

>>59905622
Why the fuck do you care what your headphones look like? You're not wearing open backs outside. Aesthetics should be an afterthought.

>>59905620
>Akg 612's used would probably fit into your budget as well.
Can I get new ear pads? Who knows who's worn them

>>59905629
I don't have a reason to prefer products that look good
If I'm going to spend more than 40 bucks on something it better look good and last a long time, it's inexcusable for a brand to produce headphones that look as ugly as senheisers

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I just got my Sony MDR-V6 headphones.

I noticed the music I made with my shitty 10 dollar headphones sounds awful with these. (the bass portions at least)

Does this mean my music would generally sound like shit to most people and that as Im producing music, I should focus what sounds good on my sony mdrv6 instead of the cheapos?

>>59905630
Yes, you can also clean them with an alcohol swab or plain old soap and water.

Also anon, looks should be the least important thing by far.
Open backs are to be worn at home where your autism is hidden.

>>59905867
Thanks for the advice but don't tell me what I should like you fucking nigger, If I want good looking headphones I'll get good looking headphones

>>59905771
The more sources the better.

You should really only be mixing music on studio monitors.

If that's not an option, try to make sure it sounds good on as many sources as possible: cheap headphones, good headphones, car speakers, etc.

>>59905881
So upset anon, I'm just trying to help you get the most value for your money.

Sennheiser 558, SHP's, K612's, they all look like shit.

Maybe some Beats would be a better choice for you friendo.

>>59905910
lel

shps, grados and k612 look good enough to me, it's just senheisers are fucking ugly with their oval shape and asymetrical joints

now that you mention used, I might try to get some k7xx used off reddit, are they good?

>>59905881
>>59905867
>>59905921

WOAH, call the fuck down or I'll call the mod squad to banhammer your butts right outtah here misters.

My dad works at 4chan

>>59905889
Thank you for your input, senpai-san-chan-kun

Don't know exactly where to post this but anyway. I suddenly have an urge to get an analog synth (something like dreadbox erebus) and I want to use it with my audio technica headphones. Apparently most of these things don't have a headphone port. What do I need to be able to use headphones with it? A mixer? I'm a total newfag when it comes to stuff.

>>59906010
I think generally you output the midi from the synth to a audio console or your computer, then you get the audio from there.

>>59905921
Yes, an upgrade to 612's, although some prefer the 612.
I didn't love the stiff headband on the 612, but only listened to them briefly.

Shouldn't be disappointed with either.

>>59905522
Haven't had a problem, but then again, my coat pocket's got generous room.

>>59903604
SHP9500, easily.

>>59905586
More like: HD 598 > SHP9500 > HD 558

>Better instrument separation
>Better soundstage

The HD 558s has no detail in them; its "smoothness" hides detail, and its bass is meh and muddy.

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>>59896486
I'm looking for a pair of headphones that are semi-open, like they are open enough so that they don't sound like moose dick, and are closed enough so that people don't hear everything I do.

I mostly listen to hard rock and metal so treble cannons aren't a problem for me.

budget $80-$150

I reassembled an ipod video 5g that I was hoping to flash with Rockbox after an msata ssd and battery upgrade

It boots fine to the /support screen but whenever I plug it in via USB to try to restore it keeps rebooting after loading up

Was hoping that someone could provide input from experience on what to do. Can't find the same issue online and I'm not sure what I could have done wrong

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Thinking about buying a pair of DT 880 Premium 600Ohms to swap in and out with my current DT 990 Pro 250Ohms. Driven by a Fiio E09k.

I watch a lot of movies and listen to a variety of music but with emphasis on rock and metal. Would I find a big difference between the two sets of cans? I want a clearer sound without losing too much fun in the bass department. Comfort is also a priority because I'll be wearing them for hours.

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>>59906549
Have you seen FRs for the new HD599?

It's surprisingly close to HD600 :O

http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp.php#Sennheiser

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>>59907036
Instead of posting a random anime picture, you could have attached the picture of the frequency response.

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>>59907454
I swear that's what I intended to do!

But cute pic distracted me.

>>59907454
What the fuck sort of compensation are they using for that graph?

>>59907545
It's zoomed in (-12 to +12dB) and there's some smoothing I guess.

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I'm in the market for some quality wireless IEMs. My budget is $200 but I can stretch it to $300.

Can anybody help me out?

>>59907579
Is that ear rape treble spike audible or is it only part of the raw frequency response?

>>59906576
Semi-open is just open.

If you don't want people to hear your music you'll need closed.

DT770 80ohm is good choice for closed. Sound great with metal and very comfortable.

HM-5/NVX XPT100 or Status CB-1/Somic MM185 if you want a bit cheaper.

Lot of people like the M40x, but I don't like to buy something which immediately requires a pad swap.

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>>59907632
IDK, but I do not see a treble spike in that FR.

The slopes aren't so sharp, and the dB range shown in the graph is very narrow.

>>59907773
It looks like +7.5db at 6khz.

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>>59907827
More like +1.5dB compared to 5kHz.

The whole dB range the FR swings through is very narrow.

>Budget
up to $200, although I would like it to be cheaper than that
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop or Phone
>Type of headphone
Full Sized preferred, but if you feel strongly about a certain IEM, I would be willing to look into it
>Open or closed
Closed only
>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible, as I will be wearing them for extended periods of time
>Sound signature
I would like more bassy headphones, but hopefully not to the point that it takes away from the actual quality of the sound (I'm not sure if it actually works like that I don't know much about headphones) I'm an avid hip-hop listener and when gaming, I love that feeling when it's almost as though you are feeling the sound
>Past headphones
The first expensive headphones I've owned were 558's. I liked how clear the sound was, but the bass was practically non-existent for me. Unfortunately they were stolen so here I am

First time posting here, please respond.

>Budget
$100-$150
>Location
Hungary
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full size, I want something durable and with removable cables.
>Open or closed
Open I guess, I live alone so it does not matter.
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible, I have large ears and would wear it all day sometimes.
>Sound signature
No idea, neutral or a bit bassy I guess, I listen to anime music and metal mostly.
>Past headphones
Never used anything that costs more than 25$, currently I have an in-ear AKG K321 which I like.

I was looking at closed ones first (ATH M40X for $115) but now I found a HD558 for $118, there is also AKG K612 for $155, is it worth paying more or is there anything else I should check?
Looks like SHP9500, M-Audio and Status Audio does not exist here, Beyerdynamic 880 starts at $200, also it's hard to find replacement parts.

>>59907629
Question: are you opposed to neckband style fit?

>>59907632
I believe it is post compensation. Having said that, I find HDM-X results above 3-4 kHz a little odd in general.

>>59908017
>neckband style fit?
What do you mean by this?

>>59907867
5khz is still solidly in the treble. That treble peak looks worse than the DT880.

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>>59907934
>$150
Decent.
>Open
Good.
>Neutral or a bit bassy
>metal
Neutral. Metal hates coloring.

>HD558 for $115
That's expensive for HD558.

I suggest HD599, HD598se. It should be possible to get there with $150.

>>59908111
>That treble peak looks worse than the DT880.
You're kidding right?

That one is +4.5dB 6 vs 5KHz, certainly far, far, far, far worse than the +1.5dB in the HD599.

Does the DT 880 600 ohm sound any better than the 250 ohm premium? Does the 250 ohm require an amp?

>>59902342
>FiiO E10K has a max power output of 200mW
At like 16 Ω

>>59908192
Yeah but relative to the mids is what I'm talking about. It indicates that the treble is way way louder.

>>59902667
>>59902604
two seconds in jewgle
http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/howto/distortion.html

>>59908159
>That's expensive for HD558.
It's on a sale, everywhere else it's $182.

HD599 is on sale for $211 here, it is 239€ even on amazon.de, HD598 looks even more rare, good stuff is always a lot more expensive here.

>>59906857
DT880 is much closer to neutral than DT990, comfort is pretty much the same.
Why 600ohms though? What are going to plug them on?

Opinions on the X2 vs HD650?
I'm thinking of a warm sounding headphone and being able to use the boompro makes the X2 somewhat more interesting for me.

>>59908339
>HD650
Is a somewhat less neutral HD600, slightly bassy and dark.
>X2
Is colored AF, more comparable (and likely still unfavorably) to HD5xx than HD600/650.

>>59908297
>HD598 looks even more rare, good stuff is always a lot more expensive here.
HD598 was at 99€ in an amazon.fr sale not long ago.

Watch out for sales and other EU amazons. HD598/se isdefinitely obtainable below 130€.

HD599 is judging by early reviews and the FR, awesome, but likely not worth over 200€.

>>59908428
>Watch out for sales and other EU amazons.
Thanks, I checked only amazon.de because it has free shipping in Europe, didn't think that price can vary that much. I'll just be patient and research more then.

Why would I want bright headphones?

>>59908584
Because you like treble.

>>59908647
Then why do bright headphones always have worse female or high pitched vocals?

>>59896486
Someone please talk me out of buying a pair of DT 880s (250 ohm)

>mainly listen to classical
>will be driven from laptop
>want neutral sound

Found them for £143, is this a good price?

>>59908666
vocals are mostly midrange retard

>>59907659
Thank you father

>>59906549
I would disagree here because HD558 and HD598 is identical and I'd say SHP9500 is better than both because its impedance vs FR isn't retarded like the Senns.
>>59906857
You'd find the DT880 to sound a bit thin but it is definitely clearer.
>>59907036
Looks pretty meh.
>>59907883
DT770 Pro 80 ohm limited edition (black velours)
>>59908159
Jesus, this shilling. It's like you are a Sennheiser salesman.
>>59908199
Both sound the same. What is your source? Modern motherboards are fine for both headphones.
>>59908297
Get the HD558 if it's on sale, it's a solid choice. Ignore the faggot shill.
>>59908339
HD650, X2 is crap.
>>59908873
Vocals are made worse with bright headphones because of sibilant regions in the FR.

>>59909029
>Vocals are made worse with bright headphones because of sibilant regions in the FR.

Only if the recording has shit mastering.

>>59896486
To all the 650 owners can you explain why you chose it over the 600? Not trying to start a war here, I'm genuinely curious. I've owned both and the 600 simply sounds better to me, it's cleaner and more natural to me. The only bass difference I noticed with the 650 was in the mid bass, and that's what partly made them sound less clean imo. I barely noticed a sub bass difference at the time, though maybe I'm wrong on that one in hindsight. Also, when you look at the graphs you can see that the 650 is recessed compared to the 600 when it comes to the highs. The 600 is technically recessed in that area as it is compared to other headphones, although the highs still sound great. The 650's sound amazing, but I just didn't see the point in them at the time and it seems that they're much more popular than the 600's these days? maybe it's more younger people expecting muh bass? who knows.

>>59909101
>650s have more midbass than the 600
Jesus, no thanks. The 600 already has too much midbass for me.

>>59908795
fuck it guys i've just bought them

>>59909173
Exactly. The 600's are already slightly warm coming from someone who used to own 702's. I liked how flat the 702's sounded at the time and I loved the sound stage and seperation. The 600's doesn't really have either of those but there's something just so right about them. They're the best headphones I've ever tried

>>59909207
They're good. In my experience, the 250 ohm version doesn't have much of a treble peak.

>>59909101
I had both at one point. I prefer the HD600 because it is more neutral and clearer sounding.

HD650 is good however and both are more alike than different.

The guy who designed both of these headphones made the HD650 because some found the HD600 too bright.

Anyway, some reasons for people preferring the HD650 are:

1) It's less shrill in the upper mids
2) It's less bright
3) It's warmer
4) It has more bass
5) It has a bigger soundstage, lol (but this is just FR at play)
6) Better headband padding IMO

>>59909234
Forgot to add that the 650 just sounded like a slightly worse version of the 600 (though still the 2nd best I've heard), hence my original question.

>>59909234
The bass is really the only bad part about the headphone, every other part of the FR is at least decent.

>>59909288
I would disagree, I'm anal about FR and I think the bass is fine, the real problem is the dip around 8kHz.

Equalizing the bass for a flat response doesn't change much on music, it sounds thinner but with better impact. I'm pretty sure I posted about this the other day.

>>59909250
>The guy who designed both of these headphones made the HD650 because some found the HD600 too bright.
AFAIK Grell was the chief designer of the HD650 but not the HD600, he may have just been involved with its development.

>>59909250
No part of the 600 is shrill at all though, that's what I don't understand. I think the 600 is warm enough as it is, that's what keeps them from sounding completely flat, and why I don't mind them lacking in sub bass. They're just about good enough to listen to rap for example. I also think the 650 headbands worse.

>>59909242
I'm fucking hyped for getting them, first pair of real headphones, should be a very decent upgrade from the Samson SR850

>>59909101
The warm tilt is more preferable to me, the cables are better, the appearance is better, the drivers are better (lower distortion and higher sensitivity)

>>59909340
On some songs the midbass hurts my ears in a way not even my heavily V shaped PM-3s do. Maybe it's just me, but that's the only part I don't like.

>>59909101
it was like 60 dollars cheaper at one point, so I bought it.

>>59908666
>female or high pitched vocals?
ffs go neutral.

>>59907545
Their compensation is quite odd. The target seems to lack significant amount of gain in treble making headphones seem brighter than they are. They are also heavily smoothed and you have to check which coupler they used for each one. They have two couplers with artificial ears and at least one flat coupler. Some headphones are measured on multiple and the response is plotted on the same graph.

>>59909348
Noted, my source was some old info on Head-Fi but I can't find it now. Axel made the HD650 because the HD600 was too bright, and I saw that his personal preference among the two is the HD650.

How the HD800 ended up being born if the HD600 is too bright is beyond me :^)

>>59909390
>The warm tilt is more preferable to me
Fair enough

>the cables are better

I bit thicker yeah, but that's it. I actually use a custom length 650 cable on my 600's

>the appearance is better

Preference , but I'll give you that one. The 600 does look a million times better and darker in the flesh than in pictures though.

>the drivers are better

I was under the impression they were basically the same? I don't know much on the technical side. I just know what I hear.

>>59909029
>>59906549
>I'd say SHP9500 is better than both because its impedance vs FR isn't retarded like the Senns.
I'd say get a Fulla 2. Nobody should ever be using a bad source.

>>59909372
It can be shrill to some listeners.
>>59909419
>midbass hurts
lol wat
>>59909519
HD650 and HD600 use different drivers. Look at the impedance.

>>59909532
Yes, it's fatiguing. Is that hard to understand?

>>59909510
Obviously he went a bit deaf in his 25+ years at Sennheiser, then again the new Orpheus supposedly has a very good response (similar to the original in overall balance) so who knows, maybe they gave up on trying to fix the housing resonance in the HD800's development and just released it to market as is.

>>59909519
>I was under the impression they were basically the same? I don't know much on the technical side. I just know what I hear.
They're much closer now than they were years ago when the 650 was released, Sennheiser do silent revisions to their drivers all the time and eventually the 600 ones began to further resemble the 650 ones, but there are still minor differences and the 650 ones still reliably measure lower THD+N.

>>59909528
Or just buy a headphone that doesn't shit itself when plugged into a source that's less than ideal.

>>59908074
Probably means headphones like LG HBS-1100. If the neckband doesn't bother you, they are really good.

>>59909543
I don't understand how that's happening but whatever. Many other headphones have more mid-bass output than the HD600 but because of how the shape of the FR looks it makes it seem accentuated on the HD600 (and it is). For example LCD-2, the bass looks pretty nice and flat right? It has far more mid-bass than HD600.

>>59909532
>HD650 and HD600 use different drivers. Look at the impedance.
Are you sure? Could be the same driver with different wiring as on the DT880 series + a bunch of small things that till the FR.
Just asking, not really arguing agains the idea of it being a different driver.

>>59909555
Cheers.

>>59909390
>lower distortion and higher sensitivity

How will this affect either headphone?

>>59908074
Something like the LG Tone models or the Sony SBH80. The receiver is worn on the back of the neck, and the earpieces are attached to that.

>>59909624
Too much variables as was said above, consistently lower sens, distortion and different impedance.

Was looking for a pair of decent gaming headphones for around 30 dollars and found a few by the name of sades, the spirit wolf to be precise. There where a few more that costed about the same but I'm leaning more towards these for the design. I was just wondering if you guys have any experience with sades headphones, or if you don't, if you could recommend something better with the same price range. I would really like to keep the price under 35, these will be strictly for computer use (gaming/music).

>>59909602
Without commenting on those specific headphones and your perception, you always have to look at the response as a whole. Flatness in one area doesn't really sound like it if the response goes bad in somewhere else.

>>59909709
do you mind open headphones?

Which headphones would be considered a real upgrade to my HD600s?

And please don't say HD800. It's basically a HD600 mod with bigger soundstage.

>>59909029

For someone that doesn't understand headphones, what is the difference between the 80 Ohm and the 250 Ohm. There is only a $9 difference.

>>59909766
250ohm requires amplification
this is basically the only difference

>>59909766
The 250 ohm needs more voltage to reach higher volumes.

https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-770-Pro-Studio-Headphones/dp/B01ERLN180/?th=1

Buy that one, the black velours are better as they keep their appearance longer.

>>59909766
Higher resistance will lead to crisper and fuller sound when properly amplified.

>>59909743
Philips X2

>>59909743
I hope you like the end game, BECAUSE YOU'RE LIVING IN IT SON

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>>59909840

>>59909742
I don't think open headphone should be a problem, had to look it up, but from what I read, it doesn't do a good job of containing the sound from the headphones. Does this also mean that it lets outside noise in?

>>59909863
Niggerbass loving?

I bought an ad2000x and I want to say it's not very comfortable.

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Got my LCD-XCs back from repairs, insane how closed backs can sound this open!

>>59909912
You should have listened to the senn shills.

>>59909912
>ad2000x

You fell for a right meme there lad

>>59909938
Really hoping you don't use much gain on these buds from the fulla2.

>>59909971
The gain is perfect from the amp!

>>59909903
yes

>>59909938
Get this 1/4 jack if you can find it in your country. It's senheiser and cheap as fuck. It's the best quality jack I've ever used.

>>59909971
No tinnitus? :X

>>59910081
>>59909938

>link

http://www.hifiheadphones.co.uk/sennheiser-gold-plated-jack-adapter-3-5mm-screw-on-to-6-35mm-for-models-hd415-hd-435-hd-205.html

>>59909743
>upgrade
Doesn't mean much. You need to be a lot more specific on what you want for us to recommend you something that could be better. HD 800 is not like HD 600.

>>59909840
That could be fun if

s) The person you are replying to was educated enough to instantly realize that's bullshit.
b) If many people actually didn't believe and spread this sort of nonsense.

>>59909898
Yes it does depending on how open they are and the material/thickness of the pads. My 668B's let more sound in with softer, thinner K240 Velour pads more than my current HM5 Hybrid pads.

>>59905116
I use the monoprices for work, the 1mores outside, and the hd600's most of the time.
Every now and then I'll put on a different pair of headphones just to see the differences in sound.

>>59908873
rude

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My VE Monk Plus are on the way, are there any better cheap(<15$) in ear headphones?

Find a flaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyuSFyYOVs

>>59909840
This. Its not just about volume, properly amped DT 770s or 880s sound fully unlocked and clear. Unamped its muddy.

Why is my AKG K702 cold, analytical, soulless, and poorly amped

>>59897475
I used to have these, they were pretty good, although a bit uncomfortable. Accidentally stepped on them, though.

>>59902342
>>59902208
>>59903333
Bottom line, if you don't know:

1. The capability of the output stage in terms of current output
2. The inherent output resistance of the output stage (without feedback applied)
3. The capability of the topology to swing the rails (or not, or how close)
4. The capability of the power supply, both in terms of current and voltage rails
5. The effect of any current-limiting inherent in a chip output stage, and/or...
6....the effect of any current-limiting done on purpose to a discrete output stage,

you won't be able to predict how it will perform into any load with simple linear extrapolation.

>7 day return window
>168 hour recommended burn in time
Really makes you think

>>59910107
Will this sound crisp?

>>59910580
>burn in
Does it really make a difference or is it a placebo thing

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I'm fairly happy with my headphones. Usually I use my Alessandro Music Pro headphones (with the larger G-Cushions) which is a tweaked version of the Grado RS-1s but better tailored towards instrumental.

I also have some Shure SE846 earphones which sometimes are better suited to some other types of instrumental music. They also make for great portable quality earphones when on the road.

I usually couple both with an Audioquest Dragonfly. Right now I have the Red which is their latest one. Their less expensive ones are great too.

>>59910376
Rock Zircons

>>59910733
The first 500 hours you play seriously affects lifetime performance of your amp, DAC, and cans.

>>59910765
>that pic
poor life decisions

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Looking for headphones:
under $100
closed back
source is phone (s7) or cheap DAP (xduuo x2)
either circum or supra aural
must be foldable
must be aesthetic above all
warm, mid-centric, or bassy
not Beats or Marshall

what's the best wireless headphones I can get with respect to noise quality?
I do have my HD600s for in home use already.

>>59910842
how so?

Wireless headphones are pretty much confirmed to give you cancer, right

>>59910897
meant sound quality. whoops.

>>59910916
He just doesn't like the headphones you posted.

>>59909912
I own a pair, I love em.

>>59910541
>cold, analytical, souless
That's what they do, should've got K712's.
>poorly amped
Don't get cheap trash that doesnt work well with it.

>>59910376
No there is not. Dont listen to anyone that tells you otherwise. However, if you want to spend $20 or so, look for the Kinera BD005 available on Massdrop right now. Its not better per se, but its different and has a much more mid forward sound than your typical bass fag 10-20 dollar iem. The Uii Sii HM7 is better than the Rock Zircon for a cheap IEM. Better clarity, less dark.

>>59910885
>foldable
>bassy
>on ear
PortaPros

>closed back
>over ear
>foldable
M40X + Shure 840 Pads

>>59910897
MDR-1A/1R BT, MDR 1000X, QC35

What is the benefit of open headphones? It sounds like all it does is leak sound and let outside noise in.

Will the Schiit Fulla 2™ allow me to hook up my headphones and speakers simultaneously as the E10k would?

>>59911135
thanks

I want some headphones that will cancel sound but leak alot of sound

so people know how cool and patrician I am for listening to the music I listen too ofcourse

>>59911083
I didnt poorly amp them, the K702 itself IS poorly amped

>>59911635
Enlighten me in the K702 itself being poorly amped, I like hearing the trickle of nonsense :)

>>59911344
Yes.

Use the dac line-out if speakers have their own amp with volume.

Use the variable line-out if you want to use the fulla2 knob.

>>59911731
He's probably searching for the "switch" to put them into "active" mode, like some BOSE cans.

What are some good velour pads for the superlux hd668b? Gotta be cheap, thanks.

>>59911827
AKG K240 Velours, HM5 Velour or HM5 Hybrid

>>59911072
I gathered that. I just wanted to put him on the spot and obviously he never responded.

>>59910561
This is basically what you are doing.
>http://v.cx/2010/04/feynman-brazil-education

>>59911226
When we say open headphones, we usually mean open backed headphones.
The main answer is simplified acoustics. The rear chamber to the driver is open air, removing it as a potential source of out of phase interference. Open backed headphones tend to lack the nulls that closed backed headphones often exhibit from 150-400 Hz.
There are other distinctions that are usually associated with open backed headphones, but these are not inherent to opening up the rear cavity of the driver.

>>59910506
Stop

Spreading

Misinformation

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>>59902269
>>59902278
Now you know why people have commit suicide over tinnitus.

Do this:

http://imgur.com/a/x77n9

>Place the palms of your hands over your ears with fingers resting gently on the back of your head. Your middle fingers should point toward one another just above the base of your skull. Place your index fingers on top of you middle fingers and snap them (the index fingers) onto the skull making a loud, drumming noise. Repeat 40-50 times. Some people experience immediate relief with this method. Repeat several times a day for as long as necessary to reduce tinnitus.

It does help me doing this before putting on my headphones and listening to music.

>>59913769
Yeah I've seen this method before and it hasn't really helped, I'll keep trying though

>>59913802
You're probably doing something incorrectly. For me it's like lowing the gain on that persistent ringing noise (though it comes creeping back up over time). I hope you can figure out the right technique, Anon. Maybe you're not drumming hard enough, or not sealing your palms over your ears?

>>59913934
>drumming hard enough
I just tried quite a bit harder and it seemed to work, but it came back the second I put my headphones on. Thanks for the advice once again, I'll get back at it once I've finished working

>>59913769
Whoah, silence!

Magic.

anyone have impressions of the monoprice monolith m1060s? They restock soon and im trying to figure out if I should buy them.

>>59912245
As a brazilian i can say Feynman's text does make for a very interesting reading.

https://rain.today/

>>59903604
Shp9500

Does anyone know of a good, flexible and really short 3.5mm cable for portable use?

>>59915084
I got a syncwire 3 foot aux cable and it's pretty good.

>>59915114
I was thinking something like those 10cm ones that are used to connect a phone to a portable amp right under it. I swear I remember seeing this one really nice looking one for $10 but I just can't find it again to save my life.

>>59915144
Fiio L17?

>>59911344
If you plug in your headphones the variable output gets muted.

>>59915174
Almost, I swear it looked exactly like this
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/cable/32798184859.html
But it had red connector housings and was only like $11 or something. Unless it was just some kind of retarded dream I had about portable cables.

>>59914293
Rip off LCD2s, shit build quality the first go. 5 year warranty, so the revised version should be better.

>>59915231
>shit build quality
sounds like a genuine LCD2 to me

>>59915226
I finally found it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/cable/252846581113

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New thread.

>>59913769
I've got severe tinnitus. That shit never helps. Its fucking horrible. Don't ever ruin your ears guys.

>>59915238
LCD-2 Build quality isn't awful, they're just not a very reliable headphone. The pads seal to well so its incredibly common for the drivers to die. Wood also cracks sometimes but you cant really get around that too much without making them super heavy. Aluminium version exists for a reason.