/wt/ - Watch Thread

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450usd. Swiss movement (STP1-11, basically a clone of the eta 2824). Assembled in China.

Should I pull the trigger?

Archie is cancer.
Ninefag is cancer.

>>59872967
Why is it so hard for you to post the movement video and the strap pastebin


Ctrl-c
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>>59873068
We're under siege by faggots who want to see these threads destroyed. See >>59873040

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>have a friend that is a watchmaker
>works at the factory that makes these watches in Switzerland
>get 80% discount on these watches
>paid around 130 Swiss Francs for this one

What do you guys think? I'm going to put a NATO band on it for daily use and keep the leather one that came with it for special occasions.

>>59873084
Excuse me, I'm the one expecting better standards.

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how does /wt/ feel about oris?

>>59873068
Archie basically holds the same opinions as the autists who come here daily so he's more relevant too be honest.

>>59873090
>paid around 130 Swiss Francs for this one
Yes, the actual cost of a (((Swiss))) watch

>>59873160
Yet you actively make the threads worse.

>>59873214
Oh boy here we go.

Tell me then, what are some of the brands that you recommend?

>>59873199
That's fucking great but he doesn't explain mechanical movements to newbies or provide a list of strap types and manufacturers

>>59873231
I'm just saying that if they're giving them to employees for 80% off, that's probably very close to cost. That means the normal consumer is paying FIVE times what it's worth

>>59873271
I basically paid the price of the movement.

>>59873221
Well you know who to blame drawing negative attention to themselves purposefully.

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Hi /wt/

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Who else here SteiNATO? :^)

>>59873233
Petulant child

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>>59873456
Says the guy that watches Archie

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Project idea:
>obtain Waving Mao watch
>redial it to have the tipping meme gentlesir tip his fedora to me 21600 an hour in honor of my great taste in haut horlogerie
Should I build it?

Any anons with the cocktail time here?
Post pics please.
About to order one, is there any thing you dislike about the watch?

>>59873030
I don't like it, but if you do, sure.

>>59873417
>>59873432

Cute arm

>>59873663
Thx bby

Seriously though, don't know what the fuck it is, but my left arm is blotched in red with a lot less hair than my right. It's not immediately noticeable in person, but it annoys me.

I'm quite surprised no one has mentioned the lack of knuckles or how my thumb is.

>>59873090
Sounds fine, but I can't believe those were 400% more to begin with.
Is that a 2824?

>>59873177
I like them. They try pretty unique things.

>>59873090
Top springbar is uneven. So that's already a sign of the "quality" of these watches.
But for 130 Franks, who gives a damn, put the thing on ebay, double your money, still a bargain for the buyer if they're looking for that specific piece.

>>59873531
That would be funny

>>59873746
It didn't came with spring bars, I got these when I bought the NATO straps.

All I got was the watch plus a leather band.

>>59873715
Every watch is like that.

I got friends that work for ETA, they get expensive watches for less than half of the price people pay at watch stores.

>>59873177
Literally the only respectable ETA-based brand.

The second they make more in-house movements (they have only one in-house dress watch so far) is the second I buy one of their super cool watches. They're like the Rolex of shitters.

Archie sort of likes them too so that's a point.

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>>59873724
>>59874051
I am considering this because it seems like a more affordable Master Control date, with a different dial layout.

it has a modified sw-200 and its about 400$, doesn't seem too bad compared to hamilton, tossit and other low end swiss.

They do have an inhouse movement for higher money ofc

>>59874051
You are dumb.

ETA brands are all the same, it's only the design that changes.

>>59874391
>a watch is only its movement
>materials, case, and yes design fon't matter
>you can't modify an eta or sellita to be superior to an off the shelf movement

>>59872967
Why do people keep posting this faggot he looks like a pig

>>59874466
with horns

>>59874482
One infected horn on the side of his face

>>59874508
it's two horns unless the one horn goes all the way through his head

>>59873432
>>59873417

You got 2 bags of twinkies on your desk?

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>>59874571
m8

Is this place good for more wood based watches or no cause I was looking at this watch

https://treehut.co/products/tree-hut-wooden-bamboo-watch-nova

>>59874368
Not a fan of the way they made the date, but other than that it's a nice watch. Sector dials are cool.

>>59874925
Wood is a terrible material to use for a watch. Only shit watches use wood.

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>>59873417
>>59873432

>>59874925
Literally the same watches are on Aliexpress for 1/4th the price.

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Does this style have a specific name? Like bauhaus but with metallic indexes.

>>59874391
>ETA brands are all the same, it's only the design that changes.

Not really. For one Oris is privately owned and they actually put effort into their watches. Furthermore they're starting to go in house with movements and they aren't just making bare minimum shitter movements but are actually designing these things to have features like 10 day power reserves. They also don't pretend to be something they're not and keep their marketing straightforward, and don't make any tasteless shit like cheapo quartz watches or "homages" of Rolex, instead coming up with their own (very nice) original designs. They also invest in R&D and have invented new complications like a mechanical depth gauge for their divers and a mechanical altimeter for their pilot's watches.

Meanwhile, at Swatch...

what's the thinkpad of /wt/

>>59875786
f91 dubya

>>59875850
How about automatic ones

>>59875483
Late 50's, early 60's I guess?

>>59875483
Nice SARB homage m9.

>>59873417
>Buying that piece of shit
>When you could have gotten an Ocean One Titanium with an ETA 2892-A2 Top Grade
Congratulations, you cucked yourself.

>>59875872
Snk809

>>59876173
Literally /r/watches favourite watch

>>59876282
No, that would be the Omega Speedmaster Professional Man On The Moon

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Here's another one that I bought.

It has a Valjoux 7751 movement. Paid a bit more for this one though.

What do you guys think of it?

By the way, when should one do a servicing of the watches that you own? How much does it cost to service an average ETA movement?

>>59875483
Not as far as I know but that simple case shape with baton indices and dauphine hands was very common in the 1950s and 1960s.

>>59873030
>Assembled in China
If you like burning up money, go for it

>>59876345
Hideous, hope you got a great deal on it. servicing the 2824-2 shouldn't be too bad as long as you find a reputable independent watchmaker. The 7751 will be a lot more expensive to service.

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>wasn't finished reading the last thread
>thread gone, no mention of previous in new one

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Today my Seiko 5 Actus 6106-8660 arrived, so I now have both a Suwa and a Daini 5 Actus, both from 1975. Also arrived is a Citizen Cosmotron 7803 electromechanical watch, that will be running at delicious 36000bph once I get it working. Seconds hand sweep will be like on an old 18000bph watch though due to the way these movements work.

Customs kinda raped me, but still overall I'm happy with what I got.

>>59876527
Cool

The Cucktus forums are found on reddit

>>59876459
Archive

>>59876527
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the Suwa and Daini 5s.

Should I buy a vintage omega seamaster for £250 just to have a Swiss luxury watch.

>>59876768
If it's not a frankenwatch, it's in decent condition, and it has a 56x or 75x movement, then yes.

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>>59876705
They're both unserviced, so I'll only give my initial impressions:
Suwa 6106:
>hacking
>the more aesthetic movement
>kinda awkward two stage day-date quickset
>suffers from excessive wear on the unjeweled barrel arbor bearing
>6100 family extinct from the Seiko lineup
Daini 7019
>no hacking, don't know yet if it can be retrofitted
>less attractive movement due to being better optimized for mass movement (think 7S26, this is its ancestor)
>better quickset mechanism
>the better movement overall
Externally they're about the same quality, maybe the Daini being a bit better, even though it has a snap-on caseback. But these are just two examples of the kinda large 5 Actus model lineup.

I've already spammed my Daini one, so here's the sellers pic of the Suwa. The fish-eye effect really distorts it, but it has that typical Seiko "grammar of design" case and lug shape.

>>59875483
midcentury dress?

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>>59876705
Anyway here's the Daini too. I just took it apart today preparing it for cleaning. Don't know if I'll ever get a replacement crystal though (at least for a sane price), these are domed on the inside.

>>59873690
youre just fat

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People give me a lot of compliments on it. I'm quick to tell them that I like it because it looks much nicer than it is. They don't realize I'm really talking about myself.

I'd really like a Philippe Patek or one of those watches with the continuous secondhand. Where do people get good knockoffs?

>>59875423
oh shit actually though? never used aliexpress

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>>59876988
Case shape is pretty similar to the Daini 5245/6 King Seiko case shape which was also used on LM Specials.

Can't say I'm surprised to hear the Daini movement design has held up better. It follows the usual pattern.

>>59876145
I bought this about 9 months ago. I just loved the look of it.
And at that point, the Ocean Titanium wasn't available for me.

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>>59877461
What I don't get is that the 6106 has four more jewels than the 7019, but the barrel arbor pivot is metal on metal. Where did all the jewels go?

I'll find out when I start servicing that one too, but I can already tell, that it's construction is more elaborate and mechanically complex, therefore I'll agree what is usually said, that it's the worse of the two in being mass-produced entry-level movements.

Also I just found out writing this that the four extra jewels are just there for the date-wheel to slide on top of them. I'd expect this on a Rolex or similar, not an entry-level movement.

>Case shape is pretty similar to the Daini 5245/6 King Seiko case shape which was also used on LM Specials.
I'd say by looking at it irl, that it's kinda like a cheap, simplified 45KS, only a bit thinner on the lugs. That pic really distorts the shape of the case. See this pic of the same 8660 case.

>tfw strap is either too tight or too lose
>tfw free watch that looks pretty good but is some shitty quartz from some weird unknown brand
>tfw live in Switzerland but can't afford a good, proper Swiss watch

Archie succumbs to the greatness of the Chronomètre Bleu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBUP6hezKc

I'm gonna join the RAF so I can get a free watch.

>>59877930
You don't value your time too highly

>>59877930
>sign your life away for a pulsar
Alrighty then

>>59877930
You must be really poor if you can't afford even a Pulsar. Our pilots get Fortis, and Heuer before that.

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JAH RAS TAFARI

EVER LIVING

KING OF KINGS

Does anyone know if there are any watches that take advantage of Jade and don't look like gaudy jewelry shit

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>>59877840
My assumption would be that the 6106 has those jewels because the 61xx was used as a basis for a bunch of different tiers of movements. Suwa made a crap ton of variants of the 61xx and 62xx movements and used them in wildly different price categories.

With that pic I see the 45KS resemblance a lot more. If you're interested, at some point I'm going to be getting rid of a 5206-6061 that has a serviced movement but the automatic winding is not very efficient. Since you are actually watchmaker I'll cut you a great deal on it plus a free spare 52xx movement so you can dick around with it and see if you can fix the automatic winding with parts from the donor.

Pic related is what the 5206-6061 looks like.

>>59878184
I'm sure you can find one in new mexico

>>59878253
At some point, maybe. Right now I'm absolutely full of watches, I should start selling one or two slavshits soon.

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>>59878184
>Does anyone know if there are any watches that take advantage of Jade
Yes.

>and don't look like gaudy jewelry shit
No.

>>59878036
>>59878087
Not him but it's not sold to civilians so they're £400-500 used for a quartz seiko shitter.

>>59878087
which air force?

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>>59878087
Hungarian Air Force. Heuer Montreal was issued in the commie times from some time in the 70's, and Fortis since 1990. Honestly I don't know if Fortis is still the standard issue but from the pics it looks like pilots wear 7750 chronos.

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>>59878624
Meant for >>59878591

> watch issued to Chinese pilots breaks with vigorous clspping

>>59878624
>>59878643
The only problem with issuing Valjoux 7750 powered chronographs to air force pilots is that the chronograph function works like shit under high g-loads on the V7750 because it's indirectly driven.

The Lemania 5100 was far preferable for that application as it had a directly driven chronograph second hand that withstood high g-forces much better. Too bad the greedy bastards at the Swatch Group killed the L5100.

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>>59878332
On the subject of vintage Seiko's with grammar of design styling, I haven't worn my 52 KS Special in a while.

This thing has the best amplitude I've ever seen on a vintage Seiko. ~280-300 dial up.

>>59878935
How would you operate a plane and a chronograph at high g forces?

Not to be a buzzkill, but how would quartz chrono not be superior for a pilot?

>>59879210
Automatic pilot chronos are more of a status symbol for fighter pilots than actual gear. But I'd guess quartz movements having lower torque than mechanicals might be a problem.

>>59879042
>start chronograph
>undergo high g forces
>???
>profit

>>59877888
>mfw the Chronometre Bleu is my ultimate grail
>mfw poor as fuck

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gonna pull the trigger soon I think.
thoughts?

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>>59880578
>knowthatfeel.png

>>59880720
personally I wouldn't spend 1k on a hamilton

>>59880791
i'm having trouble finding a decent automatic chronograph around the same range. Any suggestions?

>>59880799
keep saving till you can buy something better for all time

the reward will be so much sweeter

>>59880720
Save your money and get a speedmaster.

>>59880821
Yeah I mean ideally I would like the moonwatch but like you said I'd have to save. I view the hamilton as a stepping stone to the moonwatch

>>59880844
its not

its a decent watch for people who dont care about watches and probably dont know what the moonwatch is about and if they saw the pricetag in the store, they would gasp and just buy the hamilton

since you seem to know and like the moonwatch, just keep saving

theres no rush for these things, especially if youre under 25

>>59880799
its a really rough price range for chronos and you will likely end up with a valjoux 7750 based watch which will end be THICC

athe hamilton looks fine I just feel like Hamilton is for entry level swiss movement pieces like the khaki or jazzmaster. spending more than 500 on a Hamilton or tissot or something just rubs me the wrong way.

If there was another chrono movement that wasn't so thick in that price range I would gravitate towards that. but for now that means quartz, mechaquartz, or the seagull

>>59880842

don't listen to this man

if Tudor put their new chrono movement in a racing or even dressy case rather than the diver, I think it would be the chrono to buy due to its technical superiority to the speedy

>>59880865
>>59880863
You both make good points. I definitely understand looking at Hamilton and Tissot in the 500 range, so I acknowledge the chrono is one of Hamiltons "higher end" watches which would translate to a lower-end luxury. I'm torn because I love the chrono and would love to get something for around a grand.
I know I'll buy the moonwatch some day

I am still open to looking around at this point

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>>59880886
Too bad it's so THICC

>>59877888

Are his tumors getting bigger?

>>59880891
>I know I'll buy the moonwatch some day

Just make that sooner and save for now.

>>59873690
you're totally overthinking shit nobody cares about—pointing out all of this subtle crap that nobody would ever notice—all while ignoring the fact that you are a fatass, which is obvious
lose some weight

>>59880903
that's just the bb case, I think, but they could also make a handwind only version thinner.

>>59880891
if you don't mind a 42mm watch, bulova has a chrono with I think a Sellita SW500 for around 500, its one of those where the cheapest model you can find is 400 or so but the most expensive model cost thousands for essentially the same watch with a different colored face

affordable chronographs are largely missing from the mechanical market because they are hard to make especially if you aren't using a thick ass valjoux

Why do these things cost as much as a laptop/phone when those can do much more than tell the time?

>>59881301
so that you won't buy one

>>59882713
y u keep stealin from eevblog

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>>59882747
>implying I didn't save that from these threads

>>59880962
Fucking lol

Can anyone comment on the seiko brightz?

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>>59880962
This is cyber bullying.

>>59883377

Shut it before I connect 4 knuckles to your face bitch

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Seiko Monster is a real tough guy watch. Only wristlets and fat cunts have bad things to say about.

>>59883276
Fat canadian has one I think. They're basically a SARB but with better finishing & anti-scratch coating.

>>59883416

the offset crown is so it doesn't hurt the tough guy's tender hand

>>59883416

Ugly as fuck.

>>59877214
http://reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/55ov6a/ultimate_replica_watch_guide_for_you/

Pure time is the best if something arrives broken but the most expensive. I've only ever used tswatch and everything went smoothly.

>>59883398
I could heem you and any other of the pathetic nerds in this thread with a hand tied behind my back.

>>59884309
>>/fa/

>>59884360
Better quality than a lot of the shitters that get spammed itt :)

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>>59872967
I was looking for a sporty watch and just bought this.

Did I do good?

>>59884547

>b o'clock

>>59884547
>shittot

>>59884547
>sporty watch
Most people take off their watch when doing sport. Or they wear a cheap Casio.

Do you even exercise fatass?

>>59884547
Toss it.

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>>59873090

>>59884593
>>59884666
>>59884754
>>59884766
Wow /wt/ sure can get salty... Obviously I'm not going to be wearing this when bulking. By sporty I meant something not too formal.

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Am I too poor for this thread?

>>59885310
No most of this thread is people blindly praising Seiko to the rooftops since it's the only brand they can afford and don't want to feel worthless despite generally ugly as fuck designs.

>>59885310
It's okay to be poor anon. What's not okay is paying a watch more than its worth, no matter the price.

Your watch, despite its low price, has a great cost-benefit ratio, so you're good enough for this thread.

>>59884850
o kurwa

>>59880886
>their
Breitling's*

>>59884547
D A D C O R E
A
D
C
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>>59883276
Incredible dial, hand, case and bracelet manufacturing quality and finishing (including DiaShield and AR sapphire coating) only let down by being 40mm instead of 38 and using a 6r15c instead of the 4s15.

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>>59885310
You have and are wearing a real watch. Who cares what others think as long as you like it.

On another nore my Seiko SARB017 is in the mail and I couldn't be more hyped. While I do love my 809, that green dial makes me diamonds.

>>59884547
I don't particularly like the T on the seconds hand, but otherwise looks neato.

>>59884547
This has to be a bait. Fucking horrendous gore

>>59874368
I like this
I'll keep my eye out for Oris

>>59884547
Ghastly.

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Is there another cheap quartz chronograph that comes with a khaki dial that's less hideous than this one?

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>>59886593
Kek I saved the thumbnail. Sorry for phoneposting

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$650 good value for this?

>>59883416
FOR YOU

>>59886790
If you have to ask you are 100% going to get scammed when buying a vintage chronograph. You MUST do enough of your own research to be able to identify the originality, condition and pricing of vintage watches yourself.

>>59886489
Oh I thought it was the radio controlled watch

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>>59886603

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>>59886846
Which radio controlled watch? There is/was an e-ink digital radio controlled Brightz model (the one on the left in this picture), is that the one you mean?

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>>59886603

>>59886935
Thanks

>>59886963
Beautiful and on my list to get eventually but I'm actually looking for a quartz that I can beat the shit out of this summer

I have all the watches I seem to want.

Haven't bought a watch in a year.

>>59887333
Sad

>>59886963
I don't wanna tell normies I'm wearing a Chinese brand watch. Wappanese is okay though.

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Opinions on alpha paul newman, /wt/? Where to get a decent steel bracelet for it?

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>>59884547
Ive got a bicycle tire tube, some red nail polish, and a hubcap. I am confident I can MacGuyver up an homage.

>>59887393
r o a s t e d

>>59884547
Tachymeter? More like Tackymeter!

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>>59887376

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>>59884547
You should have asked here before purchasing

But hey if you like it, enjoy it bra

Has there ever been a better AC3 video than this one? Truly GOAT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iViv7gLEueQ

>>59888363
I lmao'd while watching the video where he roasted the watchmaker who had only absolute shitters in his collection and wanted a review from AC3

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>>59886816

Reputable seller on a reputable forum

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I think I like this color scheme

39mm oyster perpetual, what do yo fämäläzoids think

>>59888593
Is that a fucking $50 chink ST19 movement?

>>59888716
I quite like it too; would be the Rolex I'd get if it wasn't for my 'I only want one Rolex' rule and that has already been decided it will be a sub

>>59885374
O Kurwa mać

>>59888363
I like his thoughtful review of HOMOS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q___XnRC-XE

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WHY ARE DIVE WATCHES SO THICCCC?

>>59888721

No, original Valjoux 7730.

>>59888716

$298 well spent

>>59888848
nice shoop

>>59888848
That's gross

>>59888363
>>59888508
>>59888828
The butthurt shitter buyers in the comments always make me laugh. Can't face up to the fact that someone finally told them the truth about their terrible purchases.

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Alexandra Mammario is shilling nomos on her instagram

>>59888828
Here are the simple facts: Nomos are literally the first new company to develop the capacity to design and manufacture mechanical movements including escapements on a series production basis since the 1960s. They join Vostok, Orient, Citizen, Seiko, ETA and Rolex as the only non haute horlogerie companies capable of this.

Developing this capability took a several year and ~12 million Euro investment in escapements and a further ~2 million Euro investment in designing the ultra-thin DUW 3001 calibre. These are enormous investments from a company with an annual sales volume of 10,000 - 20,000 units, and as a result must necessarily be reflected in increased unit prices.

In an affordable luxury watch market heavily dominated by Chinese-cased ETA-powered marketing-driven shitters, any watchmaker that makes the investments required to become a manufacture and actually increase the technical diversity of series produced mechanical movements should be applauded no matter whether you like the aesthetics of their product line. To the extent that Nomos succeeds by following this path, it may serve to encourage more investment in the technical aspects of watchmaking by other companies rather than just investing in more value engineering (i.e. cost-cutting) and more advertising.

Just in the last 10 years we have gone from a $1,000-$4,000 market where every single watch was powered by an ETA movement to one where you can now choose between ETA, Tudor, Nomos, and Seiko (8rXXs, 8LXXs). How can this development be regarded as bad for people interested in horology, regardless of whether you would personally buy any of those watches yourself? If only Miyota and Seiko would add micro-adjuster models to their ebauche offerings and Tudor would begin to use their in-house movement in more models, we could return to an era of real competition in movements in production watches not seen since the glory days of the 1970s.

>>59888973
>Mammario
kek

>>59888980
>as the only non haute horlogerie companies capable of this.

Forgive me, am fairly new to this but don't Swatch produce their own movements?

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>>59888828

FUCK ME DEAD

ARCHIE IS WRONG

NOT EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR A FUCKING HIGH END WATCH

>>59888716
i really like the oyster perpetuals

>>59889006
I listed ETA as one of the companies already capable of it. That is the Swatch Group's movement making arm.

One key point is that Nomos is the only company to develop this technical capacity to design and fabricate escapements and movements on a prediction basis in the post-Quartz era, where most of production watchmakers have turned to production cost minimization and allocated an ever growing proportion of their funds into marketing instead.

>>59888933
>yet another idiot wasting thousands on much luxury

>>59888848
because they need to resist the pressure

>>59888716
I hope you have big, flat wrists. Rolex cases are very flat and 39mm will wear quite a bit bigger than you think.

>>59889026
Nomos isn't cheap or high end though, it's in the pointless middle ground with boring as fuck designs to boot. Either just buy a cheap brand or save for a Rolex. Buying a Nomos is completely fucking pointless.

>>59889041
Ah right thanks

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>>59889070

I also like the green 34mm, but it might be a bit too small.

>>59889086
>t. brand whore pleb with no technical interest in mechanical watches
>>>/fa/ you consumerist faggot.

>>59888980
Again, Raketa.

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>>59889096
As a point of comparison, here is a 36mm Datejust on my 7.5" wrists.

>>59889096
I like the purple 36. but the 39 with the blue square indices you posted is probably the best one.

>>59889131
Duly noted, they will be added to the list. Sorry for the oversight. I don't know that much about Slav watchmakers.

>>59889006

Protip: Swatch Group owns

Blancpain
Breguet
Harry Winston
Glashütte Original
Omega
Jaquet Droz
Léon Hatot

>>59888931

Like THICCCCCC dive watches

>>59889173

The jaquet droz charming bird with the singing bird inside it is my first purschase after winning the lotto.

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>>59889138
>>59889096

My perfect watch size is 34-35mm.

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>>59889096
my favorite Patek is listed as 33.5mm but then I found this wrist shot and it makes me wonder

Either way I feel like 34mm can actually work if you are going for an understated dress watch, after all something like the reverso isn't even 30mm across horizontally

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>>59889214

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>>59889204

It's art, not meant to be worn really at 47 mm

>>59889173
All great except Leon Hatot
>even if haters and Seiko, Invicta, Sinn and Steinheart shills get triggered

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/20/confessions-of-a-watch-geek

For Nomos haters with no taste.

>>59889225
Closeups like that are deceiving, they make things seem a lot bigger than they are. The only photo which can tell you how a watch actually wears is a mirror shot from a few feet away,

>>59889245
Nomos shill, fuck off

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>>59889234

Butthurt fatmaster marketing victim detected.

>>59889269
Be a contrarian faggot to feel special all you like anon but at least admit to yourself that's why you're doing it.

>>59889235

Try and stop me, ill have at least 3 bodyguards and five escorts with sharp fingernails.

>>59889235
>not meant to be worn really at 47 mm
What kind of pussy wristlet are you?
I can rock my 44mm with no real problem, 3mm more is not that much.

>>59889453
3mm more is a 15% increase in total area, not insignificant

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>>59889321

I don't wear watched larger than 35mm because they don't look good. The best vintage Rolexes and Pateks are all small.

>>59889158
It's a bit of a zombie of its former self, smothered in Swiss marketing makeup and pricing, but it's still cool what they're doing.

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>>59889329

To be honest, if I had the means, I would buy a bunch of shit I don't do now like bespoke suits, bespoke shoes, bespoke glasses frames etc.

I would also travel across Africa and impregnate 1000 virgins but that's just me.

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Why do people on here still buy new watches?

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Got this from parents today as birthday gift. They did not know what to get me as i have no interests that they know about so they went out and got me this!
Never worn a watch before in my life. Is it an okay watch?

>>59889918
Yes, it is okay

>>59889918

Lovely watch. Citizen is a respectable brand.

Be glad your parents didn't get you a fashion watch like Dennis Williamson.

Wear it in good health.

>>59889918
If you have small wrists it looks like it could wear a little big, but it's a good watch, especially for somebody who is not that into watches. Seeing it is quartz it will be a lot more accurate and instead of expensive repairs you'll just have to change the battery.
My gift watch that got me started was a Tossit, even though I like it as a gift I couldn't justify buying it for myself, your Citizen has a much better value/price rating

>>59889918
>>59890064
Oh it's an eco-drive, so you won't even have to worry about batteries

>>59889131
>>59889536
>2017
>18000bph
Raketa either need to do more than just design an automatic complication for their ancient 26 caliber or do what Vostok does, continue making the original cheap commie watches till the manufacturing tools blow out.

They're a brand mostly known to still exist by watchfags, and I doubt there are many of them who'll pay 700-1000€ for a 18000bph automatic watch when you can get a NOS example of an old hand-winding model for 80€ or less.

>>59889974
>>59890029
>>59890064
>>59890100

Just gotta get used to wearing it then as it sounds like an okay watch.

Mom said something about it being charged by sunlight, i guess that is the eco-drive marking then?
Does that mean it will die if i keep it in a drawer for months on end?

>>59890207

It probably has a few weeks or months of charge even without sunlight.

My seiko is charged by wanking, it has a 6 month charge

>>59890150
I could never find confirmation of the current bph but I wouldn't be surprised.
Old Raketa had automatics too. New one is just an altered design.
It's true they're still running on fumes and can't do much else currently because in the mid 2000's they were doing *really* shitty but well...mountain Jews came along and couldn't settle for simple, but honestly at that time the models they had were really shitty quality outside of the solid movement so I'm glad they did something different now even if they went a bit overboard.

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Plz no bully the blue color goes all dark when its dark and shines when its light i like it plz no bully it wasnt even expensive

>>59890680

How big is it? The design looks clean at least.

that's a small wrist

>>59890715

38mm. The newer aquaracers are too complex, just like the new carreras.

This is from 2009 I think, just before everything went huge.

>>59890740
for (you)

Where does the ETA 2836 in the vissodate fall compared to other movements in the price range ?

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>>59886960
No I meant this

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>>59890539
Actually I was able to find it. 28800 bph. Pretty decent.

>>59890978
At that price range you won't get any better than the ETA, but you can get a movement as good for much less than a Visodate since the markup is so high.

>>59891101
But how does it shape up the 2824 which is as far as I know extremely common around this price point

>>59891142
They're basically the same movement, just that the 2836 has a day wheel as well as date.

This is why I love Greubel Forsey:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/greubel-forsey-gmt-week-on-the-wrist

>>59890769

Perfect size.

>>59891444
Sweet

>>59890680
That's fine.

>>59891444
Technologically cool but man is that design fucked.

I'd stick with a Rolex GMT-Master over that any day of the week.

>>59891006
Huh, I had no idea Seiko made radio controlled solar analogue watches, particularly in the Brightz line.

Thoughts on longines legend diver?

>>59892210
You mean a vintage one right? Because no one would be retarded enough to pay $2,300 for an ETA 2824-2 Elabore from the brand that Swatch forgot, right?

I haven't used a watch since cellphones happened, but I'm thinking about getting one. I'm looking for a 24 hour chrono.
Hoping for something pretty inexpensive, so I can see if I like it enough to buy something nice.

Any recs, /wt/?

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>>59892625
I currently have this as dress.

it has sweeping stopwatch hand, 24 hour subdail.

I feel bad for scratching it a little at the top. :(

>>59892210
I like it

>>59892782
that's a 1hr chrono.

>>59891006
Model number?

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What do you guy think of this? I need a budget watch that looks like this, plain and simple (it would be better if it had the days too)

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>>59892998

>>59893099
I know it's bad, that's why I'm here

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I've decided to start collecting 1000euro+ vintage watches.

Which ones should I buy first? I'm aiming to buy one a month. This month I have 1500-2000 to spare.

They should be between 34mm and 36mm in size.

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So I kinda realized there are absolutely NO parts for the 7800 series apart from cannibalizing. Now I'm hoping it only needs a high quality battery, or a simple fix electronics problem, like dirty contacts or something. Appearance wise the movement looks clean and undamaged, and the balance wheel and hairspring looks good.

Tomorrow I'll slap in a battery and take a look at the circuit board, if you see a bitter aggressive shitposter, that's me and it didn't work.

Pic not mine, this one is a bit, dirty mine is absolutely flawless, so fingers crossed for just a shitty depleted battery.

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>>59892998

This is what you need instead http://www.good-stuffs.com/Vanilla-hand-winding-mechanical-wristwatch-retro-styled-2016-edition_p_240.html

this is also a good option http://www.good-stuffs.com/Smaller-35mm-Bauhaus-hand-winding-mechanical-watch-Sea-Gull-ST17-modified_p_310.html

>>59892782
quartz is for loosers

>>59893321
It's nice, but fucking Italy here..

>>59893321
if this didn't have a sterile dial it would be great

>>59893345

What's your budget?

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Seiko-Diver-SKX013-/272595171769?hash=item3f77f039b9:g:SzsAAOSw2gxYzSs~

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What model is this?

>>59893420

That's the best part for me. What logo would you prefer on there? You can literally just buy an old branded dial on ebay and have a watchmaker glue it on for you or design your own.

>>59893328
b-but is mecaquartz, we can be cool too!!!

>>59893544
a seagull logo since they're the one making it.

>>59893527
bambino :^)

>>59893766
Don't mock me.

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>>59875483
It's just a dress watch, I'm not really sure what else you would call it. Do you want specifically a black dial? That's a bit harder to find. There are a whole bunch of seamasters like the one you posted though if you're willing to buy a vintage watch. If not I guess something like a Hamilton Jazzmaster would be the closest modern equivalent I can think of right now. The Intra-matic has the right case shape too but the hands are simpler and no metallic indices.

>>59889041

nobody is going to care for as long as every HOMOS design looks like it was squeezed out of some faggot's diarrhea-smeared asshole

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> guy on /r/watches bought a speed master them immediately dented the case and scratches the sapphire by wearing it on a night drinking

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>>59894069
Link? Fucking dumb faggot, sounds like comedy gold. Especially since scratching sapphire usually takes a diamond to do.

>>59884547
Nice Invicta

>>59894069
Sure it's not hesalite?

>>59888363
I like those "what your wrist watch tells about you"

>>59893977
People actually interested in horology will. I'm well aware that this description excludes you.

Learning mandarin do I can buy more shitters

>>59894469

their movements are acceptable. they need to be forcibly transformed into an ebauche maker without delay.

>>59894069
>>59894142
Only a retard would get the sapphire moonwatch

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>>59893749

No, it should remain pure

>>59894069
Link or bust

Myself included, most men I know who wear watches are typically very effeminate (and gay). The rest are usually 50+ years old.

Am I correct in assuming that most of us itt are gay (or old)?

>>59895941
No

>>59895941
where the fuck do you live

>put all my money into watches
>still use an iPhone5
>still use a 2008 Macbook Pro

>>59895941
Speak for yourself, faggot.

>>59895941
Of course not. Do you live in some shitty gay camp or what?

>>59896004
>Apple products
There is your problem

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Why is the Omega spider so underrated?

>>59896043
>There is your problem

I know, it just fucking works and still gets updated to the latest software for years and years.

>>59895941
Sounds like you just surround yourself with other queers

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>>59896052
Looks like someone at omega tried to out-ugly the tag F1.

>>59895941
Most of the men I know who are interested in mechanical watches are complete fucking autists, myself included.

Otherwise they are fashionwatch normies or noveau riche with Rolexes they know absolutely nothing about.

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>>59896064
>delude oneself this hard
I feel for you

>>59896164
>delude oneself

It's true. I've been using them for years and they're still doing the job.

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>>59896374