/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>59764455
AKGs are so qt

>>59764455
earspeakers.

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AKG BTFO

>>59764504
HssssSSSsssSSssss.

Since the HD 600 is shit whats a good pair of open back headphones under $300 for gaming?Preferably something with a wide soundstage so I can hear where footsteps and distant sounds are coming from in Rainbow 6 or Neotokyo.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up/8025#post_11992815

Audio hell... worse than idol hell?

>>59764868
>Since the HD 600 is shit
You seem utterly confused. Go watch some HD600 reviews on youtube or something.

>>59764918
Ive watched at least 200 HD6XX reviews
Its shit regarding soundstage according to the anonymous posts in the previous thread which I value over youtube shills

>>59764907
powerful stuff

>>59764996
What do you even think soundstage is?

My former main headphones, HD598, exaggerate that massively. I still prefer my HD600, be it for games or anything else really.

Can you recommend me some IEMs for ~70€? Rather neutral please.
I was thinking of Philips TX2 or some of the Fidelio.

Bought a HD 598 cs cuz I needed something comfy for extended wearing sessions (3+hrs). No problems in gaming a most music, but I'm finding that the higher range sounds are "far away" some times.
Is this something an EQ can sort out? Is this an ohms/ amp problem? I'm running it off my motherboard, but it's got pretty good onboard chipset.

>>59765025
>thinks the crappy soundstage in Sennheiser is any good or preferable to anything
What the fuck do you even think soundstage is?

>>59765101
lol, cs.

Did you really need a closed set?

>>59765549
Do they even sell the open versions anymore?

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Is there a good way to insulate your ears.
Occasionally my worn out headphones will shock my ear. For example, the CRT across from my computer would normally require me the take off my headphones to turn it on. Instead of taking them off I laid out the ground and turned it on with my bare big toe. The moment it turns on it sends at p electric jolt from my toe to my ear and into the headphones. Other times my headphones will send a stream electric shocks to my ear. You would think the squishy foam inside would be enough, but it's not.
Any recommendations?

>>59765630
Yes. Also known as 598se for the black version.

>>59765754
Get rid of your faulty electronics before you start a fire.

>>59765961
Hmm okay, I haven't seen any here in Australia, they all seem to be replaced with the cs version

>>59764868
I've been using my K702 to play games since when I returned my Fidelio X2 back to Amazon more than a year ago. K702's impressive performance in games and movies is what's keeping me from selling them to get the superior HD600.

What's with the sudden hate for Audio-gd amps?

>>59765059
pls help

>>59764868
AKG k7xx

>>59764455
> all these AKGs cuckcs

Yea they're /fa/ but god damn do they sound like shit.

>>59764868
Just increase the treble or get AKGs

>>59764868
There are HD700 that have soundstage next to HD800 and a great imaging with emphasised highs, but they are around 400$ and highs are very emphasised so I would suggest you HD712/7xx.

>>59766677
>imaging

wat

>>59765630
Yes, HD598, HD598se and the newer HD599.
>>59765979
The cs version is unrelated to the open version. It uses the same drivers as HD380, and is a different headphone with a different frequency response which doesn't even resemble the open version.

Just exploiting the HD598's name popularity.

How do I upgrade from Fidelio X2?

Always thought my headphones had too much tightness to them

anyway after years of usage it's starting to get bad

the pads are yellow FILTHY from the contact of my ears with all the oil and shit that's on the ear skin

the plastic forms of the headphone driver are starting to poke through the pad and its getting uncomfortable

they're hd650s

>>59766945
>lulheiser build quality


LUL

>>59766921
DT990

>>59766962
HssssSSsSsss

>>59766971
If you ask for V that's V

>>59766980
I asked for an upgrade, not a downgrade.

>>59766999
I still think it is. EQ the treble down with a parametric EQ

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Gonna pick up jaybird x3's in the next month or so, anyone have any comments before I pull the trigger?

>>59766999
HD600.

>>59764533
>Anon can't handle treble
Kek. That's on you, dear /hpg/ poster.

>>59764868
Grab any AKG headphone in your price range; heck, grab any headphone from any well-known brand from your price range that isn't from Sennheiser's HD 6X0 series. But generally, if you want soundstage, take a look at AKG headphones.

Are frequency response graphs a reliable measurement of quality? Specifically the bass part.
Please no bully.

>>59765025
>Implying a small-as-fuck soundstage is the end all-be-all for gaming
Why do Sennshills unironically believe this?

>>59766571
Any specifics, anon?

>>59767519
He likes bass, and you recommend him HD 600s? Can you stop shilling so much, anon?

>>59767894
If he likes good bass he wouldn't be using X2s in the first place.

>>59767944
Any other open-backed headphones from around the same price range?

>>59767951
Bassy open backs? No. Unless you go into good planars you'll get fuck all sub-bass. Look for a used HE500 or something I guess.

>>59767980
See? There you go, anon. Now quit shilling no bass HD 600s to anons who want bass.

>>59767998
It wasn't even me who recommended them. I love my HD600's but I'd never even consider recommending them for someone who listens to stuff with actual sub-bass. I have 770's for that purpose.

>>59768039
>>59767998
HD650s with a wide +7dB peak around 35Hz is amazing

>>59767787
>Are frequency response graphs a reliable measurement of quality? Specifically the bass part.
Yes and yes. Frequency response determines and defines all the linear properties. Having said that, there is some disconnect between what is called "frequency response" by audio folks and by those in technical disciplines.

Repost from the last thread:
For SHP9500 owners, how do you eq them to be more neutral?

I'm pretty new to eqing for headphones; been adding a shelf to boost everything below 50, then cutting a couple db each from 225, 550, 1000, and 5000.

>>59764455
>bought a ath m50 five years back
>great headphones but needed something smaller, so refund
>thinking of buying one in current year
>it costs 30€ more
fuck
its great that most soundrelated equipment doesnt go to shit every two years, like computerperfomance related stuff. But sometimes it sucks.

>>59767870
cuck

>>59768300
Buy 770's. They're an upgrade to M50's/M50x in every way other than portability and lack of removable cable.

>>59768247
Use a slow sine sweep to identify peaks and dips easily.
I don't know the Q of your shelf filter, so I don't know whether it would be set too low or high.
Personally would stick a small boost somewhere around 2kHz.
To a certain extent, you will have figure out the high frequencies for your self. This is where the sine sweep will be useful. I make a cut around 4-5kHz and 10 kHz, fill in the region between that.

What are some good and cheap in ears?
My old Xiaomi Pistons are going to die on me soon, the cables are all fucked up.

>>59768924
Fill out the form. It applies for even cheap shit. Take a look at the /csg/ infograph too.

So can anyone make new infographics for over-ears and below and above 200$?
Infos in the wiki are dated or offline...

What's the best way to use good headphones with PS4?

I've been thinking of getting some better headphones for PC and PS4 and while my sound card will be fine for PC, I'll probably need a DAC/AMP for PS4 and it's hard to decide what to go for.
For headphones I've been thinking about AKG 612 or 550. 612 would definitely need amp since they're 120 ohms. Would something like SMSL M3 dac/amp be okay to power them up? It has optical in which is a must to plug to PS4. Alternatively FIIO E10k would probably be a better amp, but since there's no optical on it I'd need whatever converter to go from optical to coaxial, but I'm worried if doing that with a cheap converter wouldn't decrease quality too much.
Alternatively, would AKG 550 be good enough to use with PS4 with no amp at all? They are only 32 ohm so could also go for those assuming they will play loud enough.

Or should I maybe consider some other, different headphones at this price range? My budget is kind of tight for this month, so getting a ~150$ headphones is ok but getting an expensive amp at the same time could be tough (unless I'd go for FIIO E10k, I have enough money on this one online store to use and it's the only decent one they have there).

what's a good entry level planar magnetic headphone?

>>59764868
AKG712 has a massive soundstage, too bad its constructed very poorly and mine broke.

>>59769443
What's your definition of "entry level"? Some sort of price cap? Also why planar magnetic?

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>took very bad care of them, now one ear is broken and the other ear is distorted

I'm so sorry, now I need a new headphone.

I'd be happy just getting the same, but I hear I am missing out on the "mids" or someshit.

Would anyone recommend an upgrade to this that is not really more expensive?

its been 2 or so years, so the prices should be lower anyway.

also, open ear headphones have spoiled me, I dont think I want closed ears anymore.

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>>59764868
>headphones for gaming

>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-blue-box-sennheiser-exclusive-grab-bag
Is this a good deal? I'm not really an audiophile, but it's right around how much I want to spend for a pair of IEMs with an added chance of getting a better pair. I'm a little skeptical because, just looking at the MSRP, it looks a little too good to be true.

>>59769671
The Amazon price of those IEMs all hover around $30, including the lowest tier model. You can spend a bit more to get them from Amazon immediately but honestly it's not a bad deal either way.

How much of an upgrade is the k712 pro over the k240? Is it worth the money?

>>59769443
Used HE500/HE560 or wait for a the next massdrop M1060 batch.

HE400i/S with pads that seal well.

>>59769671
>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-blue-box-sennheiser-exclusive-grab-bag
Archive or screenshot or something for non-massdrop people?

>>59769593
Time to get yourself some HD600.

>>59769593
Scratch that, because your shit budget.

Go HD599 or HD598se.

Does anyone have a collection of all the headphone girls that they can upload somewhere for me?

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>>59769852
Why don't you just take 30 seconds to sign up?

The gist is it's a lottery type thing. The possible products you get and their corresponding chances are below. There are some other better "prizes" that have an infinitesimally small chance of being pulled.

Sennheiser CX 1.00 Black: 60%
Sennheiser CX 2.00 G or I Black: 30%
Sennheiser CX 5.00 G or I Black: 10%

>>59769369
>I've been thinking of getting some better headphones for PC and PS4 and while my sound card will be fine for PC, I'll probably need a DAC/AMP for PS4 and it's hard to decide what to go for.
Keep in mind, you won't be able to use a microphone unless you plug that in with a different device. A Behrigner UCA202/222 could work though. Paired with a Magni 2 its not a bad option at all, and you can keep microphone functionality. Massdrop Headphone Amp can also work, and is cheaper especially with coupons, which are supposedly easy to find.

>For headphones I've been thinking about AKG 612 or 550. 612 would definitely need amp since they're 120 ohms.
Not inherently. Impedance alone doesn't mean much. You need to factor in sensitivity too. Plenty of higher impedance headphones run fine of a standard source like a phone or laptop. Though yeah, the K612 isnt very efficient so you will likely want an additional amp.

>Would something like SMSL M3 dac/amp be okay to power them up?
SMSL has sketchy build quality. A FX-Audio DAC-X6 would be a better option if you dont want to spend much. Has optical too.

>It has optical in which is a must to plug to PS4.
What? You can use USB. PS4 supports it.

>Alternatively FIIO E10k would probably be a better amp, but since there's no optical on it I'd need whatever converter to go from optical to coaxial, but I'm worried if doing that with a cheap converter wouldn't decrease quality too much.
An optical to coaxial converter completely removes the point of having a DAC since coaxial is analogue in this case.

>Alternatively, would AKG 550 be good enough to use with PS4 with no amp at all? They are only 32 ohm so could also go for those assuming they will play loud enough.
Again, the impedance means little. K550 have severe seal issues. They're practically un-recommendable without prior listening.

>>59765059
>>59766182
pls respond

>>59764455
>you will never be a qt anime girl

>>59769984
Thanks for your reply. I'll think about getting FX-Audio DAC-X6. Only problem is it's not available here locally so my only option would be Aliexpress and waiting a few weeks for delivery.

Also not being able to use mic is not really a problem for me since I plan to mostly just play single player stuff.

>You can use USB. PS4 supports it.
I've got the impression that only some amps work with PS4 on USB. At least I've seen posts saying E10K not working with ps4 like that. If I could just plug the dac/amp through usb with no downsides, that'd be great.


I guess I'll just buy the K612 now and either order FX-Audio DAC-X6 or wait till next month to buy some better amp.

On a sidenote, my PC has Asus Xonar Phoebus Solo soundcard, I assume it's enough for 612, or would using a dac/amp also be prefferable here?

>>59770788
Just get an fiio d3

Pulling the trigger on m40x
What am i in for

>>59770871
way too thin earpads

>>59770788
schiit stack. modi 2 uber + magni 2 uber.

I have an old pair of DT770s that I neve use but the left driver is damaged so it sounds tinny compared to the right driver and the bass sounds muddy compared to the right driver. The right ear pad is a little ripped too.

What can I do with it? if I try and sell it I won't get anything, maybe £10. Repairing it sounds like it might be more expensive than what it's worth.

Any other shit or DIY shit I can do, like creating noise cancelling ear muffs?

>dropped headphones a bunch
>now getting slight static at higher volumes
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>59765630
>Do they even sell the open versions anymore?
Yes, why the fuck wouldn't they? I didn't even know closed versions existed.

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am i a good goy, /hpg/?

>Budget
Around $300
>Source
Planning on buying the Schiit stack to go with whatever headphones I get.
>Past headphones
HD439

I assume everything is an upgrade from my old headphones, though I'm conflicted on what to get as I play games quite a bit, sometimes listen to music and watch movies/shows etc.

I kind of was focused on getting the HD650's though the soundstage sounds a little offputting and I don't know how to compare it to my current headphones, I also kind of wanted to get something that'll go good with the amps since I've never had any before.

So basically I have no fucking idea what to get now, HD650's, K702's, DT990, and apparently theres the SHP9500 that sounds similar in quality to the HD650's for only 70 bucks.

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My Stax Lambda Nova Basic system just came in from jp. It's pretty much in an unused condition, a pretty rare find.

The only problem is it's rated for the 100V of Japan and I'm in the US.

Now, I've heard that Stax actually ships the same 100V AC adapters in it's US stores as it would in Japan. Is this true?

Is it safe to use the official 100V Stax AC adapter in a 120V plug? I don't care about the ac-adapter but I don't want to fry my energizer.

Please provide some input /gee/
picture unrelated

>>59769995
Etymonic MK5

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Grown fonder of these ones over the LCD XCs.

>>59773219
Have you checked the power adapter specs? Some are made to accept a 100-120v line voltage, and/or some may be manually adjustable via a jumper. That said, safest option is probably to purchase and use a step-down transformer.

If I were you, I'd want to minimize the risk of damage as such a problem (frying the energizer and/or ear speakers) is most likely not covered by the warranty (if there even is a warranty available, being that it's imported). And even if the warranty covers it, it's probably going to be a hassle with shipping costs.

>>59773219
>energizer
Model?

>>59767450

Dont buy white, the finish wears away. Theyre fantastic minicans

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>>59773564
>is most likely not covered by the warranty
hehe, these are a very old model so it would not apply anyway. They're technically used but practically new though
>100-120v line voltage
yeah unfortunately the power adapter does not specify a variable input. I don't have anything lying around with that polarity (and linearity is another concern) so like you said, I'm probably going to need a step down transformer. Damn

Where's the best place to ask questions for desktop audio questions? Looking to spend in the range of 150-250 on two satellites and a sub. Attachable to regular I/O 8 Channels or spdif. 1 port.

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>>59773695
I think I was incorrectly using the term energizer interchangeably. My driver unit is the SRM-Xh. An old model.

>>59764868
X2

>>59767787
>>59765101
You do have the power of EQ manipulate the sound, "soundstage and imaging" are dependent on the EQ used.

>>59773219
DC wall wart? Not a problem.
Just get the appropriate DC converter, make sure polarity is correct and such. Stax can be peculiar with polarity.
You could even run it off a battery, if you like.

>>59768039
based poorfag

>>59772761
For this I'm focusing on the AKG K712 to be the ones I buy as I hear good things about them. So if anyone has any opinions on those vs HD650's I'd like to hear them.

>>59774083
>DC wall wart? Not a problem.
Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying but the problem isn't DC.

The wall wart's input is AC 100V (the japanese standard)
While my plug is going to feed it the 120V US standard so I think a step down transformer or another adapter is the only solution.

Anyone have any experience with AKG K553 Pro?

Coming from sennheiser hd558's which I love. Soon I will need something with isolation so others can't hear what I'm listening to and the 553's caught my eye. My budget is roughly $200 and they are well under that which is nice. Also I'm vain and they look sexy as fuck.

Yay or nay?

>>59774579
Nay unless you can audition them yourself.

>>59774168
>completely misunderstanding what you're saying
Get a new wall wart. Very cheap.
The amplifier operates on DC input. Wall warts convert AC signals to DC.
Negative center, positive sleeve.

>Budget
Up to 500$
>Location
USA
>Source
PC without a soundcard or amp, regular samsung galaxy phone
>Type of headphone
OEMs maybe with a built in amp hopefully, dont care if there's a sound quality loss or it's overly expensive i don't care for buying an external amp or DAC
>Open or closed
either
>Comfort level
doesnt matter
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
those super popular audio technica ones i think M50s
beyer dt770
a bunch of different cheap IEMs

tfw you fags are spending more than $60 on slightly better headphones for that "great quality"
kraken chroma v1 here

>>59774670
I was planning on doing this although there are certain concerns about buying wall warts for this type of equipment.

I've read that besides matching the polarity you should also make sure it's linear and regulated. I don't know how much of this doesn't matter since some say that Stax power supplies aren't even linear and regulated.

I have a million 12V wall warts lying around and with my luck they are all the wrong polarity. Ofcourse these are all cheaper unregulated types so I don't know if I should be using them anyway.

>>59765059
MK5 if you really want neutral.

>>59774689
HD600?

>>59774930
Well my big preference was no amp req or built in amp and the senn 600 doesnt meet either of those

>>59771815
Headphones?

>>59774835
>linear
Not much of a concern.
>and regulated
Could be a problem. However, I'm quite sure the Stax set isn't.
>with my luck they are all the wrong polarity
That's part of the peculiarity with Stax. It would be a little bit of a surprise if you did have the correct polarity.

>>59766571
t. sennpoo shill

>>59768494
Silly shill, you have to be more specific than that.

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This little Bluetooth dac amp really does a good job. Has just enough power for my HE-400i and way more for my easier to drive headphones.

>inb4 autists insist on carrying a 3lb dac amp rubberbanded to your phone at all times

>>59775299
>would be a little bit of a surprise if you did have the correct polarity
I have two with the correct polarity but neither are the correct voltage

I assume polarity differences are a regional thing

Thank you for all the information. Really helped me out

>>59775006
What mobo? HD600 gets loud on any modern integrated soundcard.

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>>59764455
I'm ordering the Schiit stack but I already ave a dac/amp combo in the form of the Fiio E10K. How do I hook both of them up together?

Just get the hd600 and a schiit stack and be done forever desu.
If you want to upgrade that you have serious autism.

>>59776117
You could put the fiio's output into the magni, but I don't think you can put the fiio's output into the modi.

>>59776117
>How do I hook both of them up together?
You don't.

Just treat the schiit stack as an upgrade instead of an add-on. Give the E10K to a friend, keep it as a backup dac/amp, or just sell it.

>>59776163
>>59776176
So I can't use the E10k as a standalone dac? I really don't want to spend over $300 for the whole thing.

>>59776528
Oh, I thought you wanted to know if you can combine the e10k with the magni and modi (both of these products make up the 'schiit stack' afaik)

Now that I understand, >>59776163 is what I'd agree with, so you'd only need a magni if you're fine with the dac in the E10K (E10K line out -> magni -> headphones). You wouldn't be able to use a Modi with the E10k's amp, though.

>>59776132
what about JOTUNHEIM and aune x1s

>>59771830
The open versions have all but dissapeared here in Australia, only international stores like Amazon seem to have them

>>59776132
What about the 650, it's almost 100 cheaper.

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I suppose this is a bit of a blog post but I hope someone enjoys the images and my input

My STAX Lambda Nova Basic System came in today (SRM-Xh driver + SR-lnb earspeakers)
These are very old cans (released in 94) but I managed to get a pair in perfect condition for 400USD. It looks like they were sitting in their box for most of their life.
I'm impressed with them. The crispness and clarity of the sound from electrostats was not something I was expecting. A surprising audible difference between my HD600 set. I assumed I was going to be disappointed but these are fantastic for certain genres.

I'm going to dump some pictures of them. Came beautifully packed and shipped via priority EMS. No idea how the seller can afford it

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>>59776892
the only thing that's kind of annoying are the leather earpads since I'm used to velour that is much more comfortable on the ears.

I saw someone here with velour on their Lambdas so I know they exist

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>>59776931
pardon the dust
well, that's all.

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Nice blog anon, shame STAX doesn't do more designs like their super-high end (I think). They look way more appealing, but then again I guess the 'regular' STAX have an asthetic of their own

>>59776953
I prefer the large rectangular design of the lambdas due to comfort even if they are not aesthetically pleasing. Imo they're a more natural fit and stay on my head better than small circular builds

>>59776990
Hmm okay, I suppose I can't really judge considering I've never tried them. I just think that they would be a bit more comfortable due to the padding alone

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>>59777158
true, the padding looks greater on those high ends you posted but for me rectangular or oval velour is comfy

>>59772761
HD600.

Go neutral.

>>59777296
The HD 600's soundstage is as small as the HD 650 which isn't even that wide in the first place.

>>59772761
Generally, for a wide soundstage, you would want to go with AKG. HD 650s are just not for gaming; while its soundstage is accurate, it is extremely narrow compared to some other headphones for the price. DT 990 are nice choices too, but they can also be a bit too bright for some people out there. SHP9500s sound more like HD 600s than HD 650s; but sound quality wise, they don't even come close to competing. But when you want to go cheap, they are amazing headphones for the price, especially when they're only $60. There are also Fidelio X2s from Philips, but they are more for the bass-loving type.

Say you use magnets as an accessory for clothing to hold earbuds. Aren't magnets bound to mess up the drivers in IEMs?

>>59777296
>>59777338
I talked to a friend who has the HD600 and he said the soundstage didn't affect his playing and he heard people's footsteps just fine, so throw all that about the caring about the soundstage out.

So I'll probably pick the 650 or the 600, 650 is cheaper at the moment by quite a bit, and I wouldn't mind the extra color a bit...I think.

>>59777396
Just some advice, but other than that, they're nice headphones for the price. I just hope you like dealing with the clamp until it eventually calms down.

>>59777408
I was told I could just bend the metal band a straight for a few seconds a couple times.

>>59777518
Yup; just don't bend the headband itself.

>>59777583
Thanks buddy, should be fun to receive and try out.

>>59764455

>Budget
<$100 loose budget

>Location
USA. Texas

>Source
aux jack on phone/desktop, maybe USB on desktop

>Type of headphone
Full size over the ear, must be comfy as fuck. Will be using over 8 hours a day

>Open or closed
Closed please, less outside noise I hear the better

>Comfort level
The comfiest, willing to sacrifice some quality for comfort. Will be using a LOT and for extended periods

>Sound signature
Listen to everything from classical to hip hop to jazz to dubstep to rock. Will be using for gaming as well so would love sensitive directional sound if possible please

>Past headphones
Bose quiet comfort 15 are current. They sound like they are wearing out though. Pretty much the only notable headphones I've owned. I LOVE the noise canceling.

>>59777746
Brainwavs HM5

>>59777845

I like the simplistic design, and they look comfy. How good is the directional sound?

>>59776528
E10K doesn't have the out to be a DAC or amp only, should have gotten the Fulla 2 friendo.

>>59777845
NVX XPT100 is the same thing but cheaper.

Can someone post that image of a guy sitting in an empty room with all dacs and amps hooked up to HD800.

>>59767450
Why would I pick these instead of Bose SoundTrue Ultra

>>59772761
I'm seconding this >>59777391
Especially AKG recommendation. K702 especially have the best soundstage out of all AKG headphones, and the best soundstage out of all headphones in it's price range, and way above. Requires good amp though.
If you don't care about soundstage this much then Beyer dt990 will do great, because they also have nice soundstage and are v-shaped (meaning they give out more of an impression and you will feel explosions and such much more). /hpg/ hates on beyers though, and frankly I don't think their sound signature is good for your normal relaxed listening. Does well for studio needs because it helps pinpointing mastering faults (such as sibilation)
And if you are not that serious about this, you can chose pretty much anything, it will do fine. You can go with HD 600, or AKG K612 pro (similar sound signature to HD 600, but worse and cheaper). I don't think I would recommend SHP9500, those are nobass headphones (don't confuse with neutral)

>>59778785
>/hpg/ hates on beyers though
It's just one autist who does. He's gone now (hopefully forever), which is why you don't see any hissposting.

>>59772761
If you're playing vidya a lot, get some AKGs. K612 are their most neutral pair, and also one of the cheapest in terms of their mid-tier open backs. They have the standard AKG huge soundstage and great imaging. For music I'd have recommended HD600, but soundstage isn't wide, though the imaging is good. Though really, you shouldn't prioritize audio for gayming unless youre a top tier pro. It doesn't mean much. Plenty of pro CS players use trash headsets and still play fine. Hell, at some competitions they use IEMs under a pair of shooting muffs.

Don't get K702s, as they're just kinda worse K612s for more money. K612s pair fine with a Schiit Stack, or a Fulla 2/E10k if you dont want to spend that much.

>apparently theres the SHP9500 that sounds similar in quality to the HD650's for only 70 bucks
Whoever is saying that is clearly 3 tiers past deaf.

>>59773257
You actually have the XC? Dayum, I thought like nobody bought them. How do they sound? I've never used them, but every other headphone from Audeze I've used. is so incredibly boring I've never really had the desire.

>>59774579
They have severe seal issues. Test them first or its a no-go.

>>59775597
>Has just enough power for my HE-400i
Not a very good amp then.

>Budget
~100-280-ish USD

>Location
USA

>Source
PC via audio jack, or A/V Reciever

>Type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
I'd prefer open, however closed will work fine

>Comfort level
Prefer sound over cosy, however as cosy as possible would be nice.

>Sound signature
I think I'd like a warm neutral or slight v/u-shape with a punchy/has decent impact low end if possible.

>Past headphones
HE-400is, and Superlux 668Bs. Though I'm not basing the sound-signature above based on these past headphones, rather from a perceived neutral.

>build quality
If it doesn't fall apart after a year, I'll be happy. Never HiFi-Man ever again.

>>59774579
Go HD600. You know you want to.

>>59775006
But you can afford one no problem, with your budget.

Without, your options are severely restricted.

>>59777518
Use that as desperate measure only, at your own risk.

They become quite loose after a few days of normal use; There's no need to stretch.

>>59779210
HD599, HD598se.

Neutral, slighly warm. Definitely go for the 599 if you need a little more bass.

>>59779210
AKG K712

So I sold my MEME50s and i have $240 to spend what do i get?
My options are AKG k612pro+E10k, K702 without amp and k7xx if massdrop offer them again.

>Budget
$240

>Location
Philippines (Prices are fucking bloated here)

>Source
Desktop

>Type of headphone
Full size

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
Must be comfy
>Sound signature
Neutral, I'm a little sentisitive to treble but can endure if the whole sound sig is good
>Past headphones
Meme50

>>59773848
Avoid step-down transformer since they cause all sort of weirdness. You need to get a regulated wall wart from a vendor like Jameco which has quite an extensive catalogue of them.

>>59779576
>>59779417
Thanks~! I'll see if I can find a store that'll let me audition these.

To be frank, where do anons go to audition equipment? If anons even audition equipment.

>>59779765
Go to an audio store. Most decent sized cities have a headphone store or something.

>Budget
$1-1.5k

>Location
China

>Source
PC

>Type of headphone
over ear

>Open or closed
open or closed

>Comfort level
comfort > all

>Sound signature
neutral-bassy

>Past headphones
DT 770, Fidelio X2

Is aptx a meme?
Is bluetooth audio still dogshit?
Is apple retarded for ditching the hole?

Are all open-backs going to have subpar bass?

>>59779578
k612 pro is good. You've gotta baby them though, for the life of me I couldn't disassemble it after I lost the right channel from accidentally yanking the cable over a period of 6 months.

Even following the OEM parts list and instructions I couldn't get it open to repair.

If you want to be able to do hassle free repairs go with the other ones.

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Are these still considered a 'headset' even if its essentially a pair of headphones that comes with a detachable wire + boom mic?

Thoughts on these?

>>59779938
>>59779956
Of course not.

>>59779966
>for the life of me I couldn't disassemble it
Would you like a video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20VRAznJzgw

>>59779922
AKG K712

>>59780122
You saw my budget. Why those headphones in particular?

I'm not really impressed by my 598's base, what's a good upgrade from that that has a bit more oomph in the base department, $250 budget

>>59780142
>1-1.5K
>China
Woops, though you were talking about yen. Take a look at Stax and Audeze.
K712's fit the sound preference at a fairly low cost.

>>59780217
Frankly, I'm a bit too lazy to really dig into this hobby and I just want to be spoonfed. When I got these Fidelio X2s I really thought they were a major upgrade to the DT 770s. I do remember having my eardrums pierced a few times while using the DT 770s. The bass on the Fidelio X2s felt better as well.

I'm not even sure what that means in terms of my sound signature preference. I just have tons of disposable income now and I want an upgrade.

I like listening to many kinds of music and I watch a lot of anime (I actually know Japanese) and TV shows/movies.

>>59780110
Already watched that one and tried what the guy did.

I suspect the k612 uses glue in addition to a part fit.

>>59780217
>Audeze
That's not going to work.

>>59780252
I do have another suggestion, the MrSpeakers Ether, and possibly the Aeon. Sony's MA900 is probably the most easy to wear headphone made, but is out of production. Equalization opens up the suggestion of other headphones, such as the HD800.

There's something much more important that you haven't answered yet. Why get a new headphone over the X2? Are they uncomfortable?

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>>59780336
>Why get a new headphone over the X2? Are they uncomfortable?

These headphones are very comfortable.

I'm just not wow'ed by the sound anymore. They feel boring to listen to.

>>59776853
Any Lambda should leave a low-to-mid tier can like the HD600 in the dust.

$400 for that deal is kind of expensive though. I remember buying my first STAX, a Lambda Pro and SRM-1/MK2 energizer setup for $300 but this is like 8 years ago before they become really popular.

>>59779922
Ether seems good. EQ the rest if still not impressed.

>>59780582
In that case giving you an option which you find better sounding is hard as you couldn't be precise with the sound signature preference either.

>>59780582
>I'm just not wow'ed by the sound anymore. They feel boring to listen to.
This is the worst reason you could pick to buy a new headphone.
That tells nothing about what you are looking for, so you may as well spin a roulette for as much as that helps.
The point of listing old headphones is not just for being contrary, it's so that you can provide some information about them to help you pick a new purchase. The comment about the highs on the DT770 is more telling.

The headphone rec I gave earlier still stands, and I would reiterate that the Stax and Audeze sets seem ill suited to you.
It really would be in your interest to play around with a parametric EQ using your current headphones.

Please give me a suggestion about iems. I have about 70$ to spare and would like rathee neutral or v shaped ones.

are the cx3.00s worth the $20 more than the cx1.00s?

>>59779765
Speaking from personal experience, but...

Don't bother.

Auditioning in the shop is a bit like the old tricks to sell speakers: Some V-shaped equalization sells a lot, and so do V-shaped cans.

Actually good sound takes days to get used to, particularly true if it's been your first time with anything not seriously far from neutral. HD598 sounded like shit to me, took days to get used to them. After that, they became awesome.

Some idiots call that "burn-in", ignorant that the process actually happens in their brains, not the cans.

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>>59781506
You got chinked.

>>59781598
Actually I didn't, avatarfag. Assembled in the USA.

The mirror shiny surface makes it look like a problem with the plastic mold. The nozzle had cracked off when I had them stored away in a hard Shure carrying case. Better there than in my ear canal I guess. Contacted the store to see what they have to say about it. I'd really like to upgrade to the new SR or XR.

>>59781494
>Some idiots call that "burn-in", ignorant that the process actually happens in their brains, not the cans.
It's probably also pads softening and getting better fit to head, causing drivers to be closer to ears. Especially applies to headphones with memory foam pads. Otherwise agree.
Here in yurop we have law that allows us to return anything bought online within certain period of time, 2 weeks for my country. Best way to decide on purchase is to buy 2 or more pairs of headphones and then return the rest.

Do you folks still think that Koss Porta Pro is a good headphone?

>>59781742
>>Best way to decide on purchase is to buy 2 or more pairs of headphones and then return the rest.
Or, god forbid, buy one pair that's supposed to be good, and return it if it's not.

So much returns abuse.

>>59781901
If you want a on ear, sure. KSC75 is also similar and cheaper, but rest on your ear. Slightly less bassy.

>>59781701
>Actually I didn't, avatarfag.
That's a china dress. Chinked.

Stupid question: there's no advantage to balanced XLR cabling for in-house use, right? Going to buy an pre-amp so I can hook my headphones and LSR305s up at the same time, and the cheapest decent pre-amp I can find with XLR outputs is $500, versus $300 for one with unbalanced RCA outputs.

>>59782372
No point unless your system is balanced all the way from source.

I just bought a pair of philips she3905 iems. Did I fuck up, or are they good? I haven't listened them yet.

>>59781742
Not quite. You can return a product within 14 days of receiving it but with terms. Being very literal, the product need to be unused and completely ready for resale e.g. you can't open up packages, break seals and use them. Most stores aren't that strict about this. Hygienic products which headphones more or less belong to are exclude from the customer protection law's return policy. In the case you do return a product which didn't explicitly fit the terms, store can ask for compensation. Stores are also not required to pay for shipping the product back. Read what each store has to say about this as they can offer a more lenient return policy as a part of their own customer service.

>>59782473
Yeah, the DAC can do balanced. But it doesn't matter unless I'm running really long lines, right?

>>59782372
>balanced XLR cabling for in-house use, right
XLR plugs are nice, if bulky. You can also do that with TRS connectors.
Balanced and differential is there for noise rejection. Not really a concern for a short run in a low RFI environment.

>>59782632
pls respond

>>59783455
It's a stupid question which nobody else can answer for you.

I got a pair of chinese velour pads for my Superlux HD-668B's. It included a pair of foam disks too, and i removed the acoustic dampers from the headphones, since i read that removing them might make them sound better. The pads are great, definitely much more comfortable compared to the default ones, and my ears dont sweat anymore, so that's great

However now they sound like they have more treble and its like bass isn't as heavy as it used to be. I don't really know what to think about it, I don't think they sound bad but it definitely feels weird after listening to them with the default pads and as they are for at least over a year and now they are different, but maybe I get used to them

In summary, I removed the default pads + foam disks, removed the acoustic damper stickers, then installed the new foam disks over the grill covering the driver and installed the new pads

Did I fuck up or what caused the sound to change? Did the pads cause it, or the foam disks or removing acoustic damper stickers? Is this what I should have excepted with these changes or did I make a mistake somewhere?

>>59781131
Etymonic MK5

>>59781901
If you want bassy/dark, yes. My main attraction to them was the folding design and the SoundSig as it was pretty much like a laidback version of my 668B's. If the drivers shit the bed, you can replace them with KSC75's or SportaPro drivers (Porta/Sporta/KSC35 are all the same driver).

>Buy ATH M50x
>Wow, too much bass and treble is raping my ears.
>Buy Beyer DT-880
>Damn, this is great, but that treble is really raping my ears. Better get something else.
>Buy AKG K701
>Holy fuck the treble is even worse, ears are bleeding.
>Buy Hifiman HE-400i
>Treble still raping ears, give up and look for some notreble headphones.
>Zeos says OPPO PM-3 has no treble
>Get it, and treble rapes my ears

Why is my life like this? At this point anything that isn't earrape sounds veiled to me.

>>59784022
The bass leaks more with softer velour pads so theres less of it. Stack the foam disks as that'll help tame the treble. If you miss the bass, check HM5 Hybrids. Velor on your ear, solid pleather around the outside and preforated pleather on the inside. Kind of the best of both pads.

>>59784576
Try AKG K612's or Sennheiser HD 650's.

>>59784581
Thanks, so it's probably to be excepted and not a fuck up by me somehow

I guess I will just have to use them to get used to it, it just sounded very weird after being used to them with default pads for over a year and then they sounded really different

They dont sound that weird anymore, it is a change from what it used to be but not bad, but something I need get used to

>Budget

Around $100 but I'm flexible about this and could go higher.

>Location

USA

>Source

I'm buying the S8 and will most often use that, but I will also use it for my laptop as well.

>Type of headphone

Overhead

>Open or closed

I would prefer closed

>Comfort level

I'd like to be pretty comfy, but I'll probably use it two hours at a time at the most for my commute.

>Sound signature

Don't care.

>Past headphones

Some ~$20 Skull Candy and Sony headphones.

I'm really okay with the sound of my past headphones, but what I really want are more durable headphones that'll last at least a year. I'd also like for them be /fa/ but will take durability over aesthetics if I'm unable to compromise.

>>59784576
All of those headphones have major treble peaks.
Also, try a parametric EQ once in a while.

>>59784803
EQ sounds like complete shit except on the PM-3s, which for some reason sound nice no matter how much I mess with the EQ.

>>59784826
You need to learn how to mess with EQ.

>>59784863
No thanks. It's not worth it when I barely spend half my time listening on a platform that supports autistic EQ.

>>59773219
No it's not safe to run the 100V at higher voltage. But all you need is a 12V wall wart of the required amp rating (greater than 400mA IIRC) with an inverted polarity plug. You can also just buy a normal one and swap the +/- wires in the wart or the amp to make it inverted. Hell, you probably have one laying around if you have an old router, modem, external hard drive enclosure, etc.

Also, it's an actual electrostatic amp and not an energizer. You're thinking of the old transformer boxes.

>>59780850
I got a used lambda/xh set without a wall wart on yahoojapan for $98 just last week. Going to be more like $140 with fees and shipping but still, not that hard to find deals even today.

>>59784826
-Stop buying headphones with the same treble peak if you hate it so much.
-Sine sweep to find the peak and kill it. Boost recessed areas. Not hard, not much to learn.
-Unless you spend most of your time on a gaming console, you do have access to software parametric
-Also, outboard equalizers exist

>>59785120
I've learned to enjoy it. But thanks for the audiotism suggestions.

I'm so ready for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUy81ouMzNQ

>>59784576
HD600 for neutral without stupid treble peaks.

HD650 for even darker (less treble)

>>59785702
Yet another useless audio reviewer on the internet.

>>59785702
Anyone who calls headphones 'cans' should be canned

>>59784747
M40X with Shure 840/940 pads.

>>59785702
Can you stop shilling you channel?

I have the DT990 pro 250OHM.
what can I buy to make it better?

>>59784576
Some of your choices are fucking stupid though. Why would you buy k701 after beyer dt880 when k701 are known for having boosted highs. You could have done some readying before buying shit randomly, or at least check frequency response graphs.
If you actually want open neutral headphones get HD 600 or k612 pro, depending on your budget.

>>59786852
I'm not shilling, just check it out its pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9IaI2xbDYI

>>59786940
Better headphones.

>>59787081
Such as

>>59786989
Oh fuck off, that guy looks like a faggot. No one in this general seems to enjoys him; why is his channel even still posted here?

>>59787105
IM NOT A FAGGOT FUCK OFF

>>59786050
They're cans. And they need juice.

>>59786940
HD600, 650, 800S.

>>59786940
get headphones that actually have mids

>>59787302
Such as?

>>59787311
trade them for HD600s, get AD900Xs, swap for DT770s... whats ur sauce rn??

>>59787334
Oh, i'm not anon. Just in a similar situation.

>>59764455
I need some sort of dac or another bullshit thing, please help.

>tldr: need a thing that I can plug in a usb mic and it will give me analog audio in and audio out ports.
I dont need high end shit, anything that can do the job is good enough.

I have a usb mic (with headphone output that can play music from the computer AND provides voice feedback).

What I want to do is use this mic on analog shit like my cellphone or xbox controller. I can handle the nigger rigging for the wiring, but I cant seem to find something that will let me plug in the usb mic and give me audio in and audio out ports.

>>59787235
>Pushing Sennheisers

>>59787355
E10k or smsl m3

Talk me out of buying a pair of Philips X2

>>59787420
There are better headphones out there if you are focusing on mids. Nice bassy headphones, though; surprisingly comfy with and amazing build quality. You will notice the weight, but you
eventually get used to it. Soundstage is also there for gaming.

>>59784576
>Buy ATH M50x
>Wow, too much bass and treble is raping my ears.
>proceeds to buy Beyerdynamics
Wew lad, probably a bait post since all you need to do is go for HD600/650.

>>59787235
>800S

>>59787361
A Behringer UCA222/202 would be the cheapest way to do it. Has a monitor function, a heaphone out, and a microphone input. Your mic may not be very loud tho, depending on what it is. An audio interface or audio mixer would be the next cheapest way of doing it. Cheap Behringer mixers are everywhere and will run your microphone fine. Have monitoring too. Grab a UCA202/222 if it is an older mixer without USB.

Also look for cheap second hand Focusrite interfaces. Theyre not half bad.

>>59787453
>There are better headphones out there if you are focusing on mids

Any suggestions for something that's easy to drive like the X2?

>>59787420
no sub-bass and a fuck ton of mid-bass
otherwise theyre okay if you can get them cheap

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>>59787473
I just need to use my usb microphone on my cellphone so I can stop screaming and talk normal again.

I need a device that acts as a usb host, and takes input via a usb A female, which my mic will be plugged into.

The mic is a soundcard capable of audio in and out.

The device I am looking for needs to convert my usb mic to an analog mic so that I can plug in 3.5" headphone cables to use on other devices like my cellphone and xbox controller.. fuck it heres a picture

>inb4 "the old as nokia model meme-002 didnt have a 4-pole 3.5" jack"

>>59787600
>if you can get them cheap

Is ~£180 a good price?

>>59787777
HD650

>>59787973
>Easy to drive
>HD 650s
Ha!

>>59779682
Yeah, I got my hands on a step down and there was noticeable distortion

Thanks for the heads up

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what do you think about aiaiai? is the swirl version any good?

>>59788555
They've had quality issues with their TMA headphones; not sure with their other products.

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Looking for something to compliment my K7XX's.

>Budget
$100-150 (USD)

>Location
New Zealand

>Source
Sabre USB / Motherboard (Asus "SupremeFX")

>Type of headphone
Over Ear

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Very comfortable (Hours of listening)

>Sound signature
Slightly more bass than neutral

>Past headphones
K7XX, HD558, M50X

Availability and pricing in New Zealand is fucked, and the HD280 or HD380 seem like the most reasonable options.
I want something that is very clear in highs and mids, but also emphasizes bass (sound sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBH0tDqGjts)

>>59787400
dont buy either of those, get MDA

>>59787420
grainy and you can buy planars for that kind of money. You could even buy the AD1000X which is much better than the X2 and it doesnt fall apart.

>>59789185
The Fidelio X1s had a slight grain to them, but the Fidelio X2s do not. The ATH-AD1000Xs have a worse build compared to the X2s; I don't know where you got reports of them falling apart. Fit can also be worse with that suspension system; It can be iffy, and it doesn't work well with small heads.

>>59789185
Decent $250 planars? Where?

>>59789332
you are lying

>>59789365
you can buy used hifimans and sometimes the He-400 goes on sale under 250, or you can get a nice T50RP mod of your choice.

>>59789404
No? There is no grain, and build quality is better than other headphones at its price range. No lying, just my experience.

>>59788581
Shure840

>>59789404
>Ever buying used headphones
>Ever buying used HiFiMANs

>>59781039
Yeah I know it's a shitty reason. I'm dissatisfied with the bass. Nothing really pops out. They feel too neutral almost. I could be completely wrong about these headphones but they aren't "fun" to listen to.

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Does anyone here know about mics and speakers been looking in to getting either.
Got 150 dollar micro center gift card anyone know about some stuff there that's good.

>>59789494
I would, but they are twice the price of the HD280's here...

>>59789731
buy pads for your M50X if the price isnt worth it to find closed cans like the SH840 or the DT770, then just buy nothing.

>>59789625
Maybe something with more subbass, perhaps? Or maybe something else entirely.
There's a lot of room for guesswork you're leaving open. Do you still have your DT770 to try and offer more hints?

Contrary to what a certain poster has been screaming up and down as of late, X2 aren't very midbassy, Fs is too low and Q is not THAT low. X2 does lose a lot of level below Fs, a little too ventilated for its own good.
X2 characteristic is a +5 dB boost centered around 65 Hz. Q is high compared to most open backed headphones, meaning more of it is focused near that frequency.
When I think of the word "pop", it usually refers to higher frequencies than the bass. X2 tends to slope off the upper end response, save for a treble peak.
This is the part where it would be really helpful to experiment with a PEQ, at least to narrow down the directions to go from there.

>>59764455
What headphones out there are similar sounding to the AD900X? I just got a pair today and really enjoy them, but the build quality is mediocre and holy shit those fucking wings. Why couldn't AT just make a set with a regular fucking headband instead of that crap? Fairly uncomfortable.

Newfag here, just listened to the Bose Quiet Comfort 35 (QC35) instore, how are they for those who have them, and what beats them in your opinions.

Looking for a pair of wireless headphones to use as my main pair for home, commuting and doing cardio on the machines.

>>59790240
Yeah, nothing really beats them for the user experience.
If you have tried them, liked them, and want to pay for them, just buy them. You (probably) won't regret it.

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>Budget
~100$

>Location
US

>Source
iPod, phone, or laptop.

>Type of headphone
Full sized.

>Open or closed
Closed.

>Comfort level
Just nothing terrible.

>Sound signature
Warm to neutral. Details are nice.

>Past headphones
Nothing worth mentioning.

>>59790467
Forgot to mention that I've been considering the m40xs. Are they any good?

Why are the 800s so hated around here? Aren't they basically what the 650 is to the 600?

>>59790523
With new pads, they're good. Stock pads are garbage so replacing them is needed. Shure 840/940, MSR7 or DT250 pads make M40's more comfortable without changing the sound.

>>59790523
M40X is alright, not bad for the price, I wouldn't exactly call it "warm to neutral" though.

>Budget
under $100
>Location
Eastern europe (prices are a bit higher than US)
>Source
amp
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
No particular preference
>Comfort level
Has to be comfortable, would be using them several hours per day
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Currently using HD 215s

>>59791118
actually I could go a bit higher on the price

>>59791118
9500's are pretty solid. Not very bassy though if that matters.

>>59790467
Status CB-1.
Neutralish sound.

Super comfortable with stock pads, and 3.5 detachable cable.

>>59791118
NVX XPT100

>>59791005
Because people here are too poor to afford them so they shill the mediocre 600s instead.

>>59790523
Yeah M40x are fine once you swap pads. They're slightly V-shaped but aren't overpowering either way. Mids still exist.

>>59791168
they'll be good until they fucking snap.

>>59786618
Thanks. Are there higher priced headphones where I won't need to switch the pads, though? I'm willing to go up.

>>59793574
NVX XPT100 or Brainwavs HM5's are bulkier/not as portable but are very comfortable

>>59789731
HD380 maybe? They're a world better than HD280.

>>59791118
HD558, HD598/se, HD599

>>59793681
I'll just stick to the M40x headphones then. These seem too bulky for me. I was mostly worried about replacing the padding because I've ever done it before and didn't want to fuck up.

>>59793951
Replacing pads is ez. Its literally just pull it off and then slide the new one around the rim.

what is the best for my xiaomeme note 3 pro? I don't like in-ear phones

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It's been a bit over a year since I bought my Audio Technica ATH-AD900X and I'm still loving them. The amount of audio details you can pick up in games, ease of use for long speaking videos and musical quality is superb. Best of all they're holding up even after a lot of dropping and accidental abuse.

>>59794521
Ohh, should note the one major downside is the way the pads go on the plastic is a major pain to get on and off so it's very difficult to clean them on the regular. This is my only real complain and I guess a tiny bit of bass lacking compared to past cans but the difference is made up for by the soundstage !

>>59792858
I mean, sure.

I've had mine 6 months and they're showing no signs of wear.

I realize that headphones.com's graph generator is nice, plotting many headphones on the same graph and such.

But their collection is pretty limited and somewhat obsolete... it lacks a lot of the newer cans.

Are you aware of alternatives which can plot 2 or more headphones in the same graph?

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Why does the HD 600 require 6 times the impedance of the HD 598? Does having a higher resistance increase the audio resolution or quality?

>>59766677
Thanks, Ill go with this instead of settling for AKG

Why would anyone buy a "colored" headphone with preboosted bass instead of just EQing something more neutral?

>>59795616
Headphones don't 'require' impedance. They have an impedance.
A higher resistance doesn't inherently lead to better quality. Plenty of low impedance headphones that sound great.

>>59795783
Distortion.

>>59795616
>Why does the HD 600 require 6 times the impedance of the HD 598?
Your question makes no sense. Impedance is a measurement of the load's(e.g. headphone, loudspeaker) resistance to current. It's not "required". HD 600 has a higher than usual impedance due to how their voice coil is wired. In other words it uses a thinner and longer wire. This is a little bit more expensive to manufacture.

Reasons why manufacturers choose to do this(or offer versions which come in multiple impedance versions like Beyerdynamic) is to lower the headphones' power draw to make them an easier load for amplifiers to drive. This is particularly useful when hooked in parallel for studio monitoring applications which was their original intended purpose. You are less likely to clip your amplifier with high impedance headphone and the amp will distort less due to the lower power draw. With a good amp the distortion levels are usually insignificant but it can still be a factor on some pairings and makes the headphones more suitable to be used on a wide range of devices.

With higher impedance comes lowered voltage sensitivity so you might need a more powerful(more Vrms) amplifier to drive them loud enough.

Then there's also the audiophile selling factor where manufacturers expect people who purchase expensive headphones to use or want them to purchase more powerful amplifiers to drive their low sensitivity headphones.

You generally don't ever need to know about it.

>audio resolution or quality?
No, it has nothing to do with audio quality and resolution isn't a measurement of headphone performance. Resolution is a term which you can use for file formats, DA-converters and to some extent amplifiers but you should understand what it entails in audio first.

>>59795783
People don't really know how or what to EQ and many still have weird conceptions about EQ harming audio quality.

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Can anyone recommend me a good powered sub to go with my new Micca PB42X? I'm running them through the Micca Origen+.

They sound amazing, but I miss the bass that my Klipsch promedia 2.1 had.

>>59791005
cuz it's colored garbage but if you equalize it, it's good

650 is a warmer 600

600 > 650 > 800 without eq

with eq 800 > 600 = 650

800 is more comfortable, better built

>>59794521
>>59794542
How the hell can you stand that shitty fit with the "wings"? I think the soundstage quality is overrated, despite it being pretty good. I expected a lot more from all the praise I hear about that specific quality.

>>59791005
>hated
Every brand and product gets their share of hate from users here. It shouldn't come as surprise that this site is incapable of reaching agreements on something and can't even agree to disagree. Often people who would have a different opinion don't even bother to contribute because the discussion is nothing but baiting and shitposting.

As for the HD 800, it's seen as low value product as in its stock form many consider it inferior sounding to some headphones offered for much less. It has its strong points too which are somewhat rare or at least poorly documented in many other headphones. I like mine but only after EQ.

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New thread up

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>>59794912
No.
I don't believe that is something for which many alternatives would exist. Too much time spent by the tester worrying about procedural error and other measurement defects. These things are normally performed by one person, who just exports the output from their measurement software package.

The job of making a friendly interface goes to someone else.