/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>59677405
Best budget headphones coming through.

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>>59677405
Best budget headphones coming through.

>>59677405
hd600+fulla 2 master race. Are other more expensive schitt amps worth the money? who gives a shit lads. This setup is godly and compact.

>>59677554
Magni2/Uber should be good for most headphones

>>59677575
Should be, and I have no idea, but the fulla 2 is tiny and has a shit load of functions. It also has an incredible knob (no homo)

>>59677080
Any specific models? The sabre dac and T2 amp seem to be the popular combo

>>59677405
>Report for trolling and don't engage him.
Man, that bit really sticks out compared to the rest of the text. You're not our OP, are you? I want our old OP back.

>>59596825

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>>59677603
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Your snapheiser meme sucks.

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>>59677833
Man, you already broke the rule. Will you defend this too?

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Best budget headphones coming through.

>>59677871
Used the wrong type of glue to repair the damaged headband he purchased, and used it until it inevitably broke.

>>59677833
I've had my 600's for two years and the last thing that I would expect to happen, is that the headband would fucking snap. This only happens with retards who buy the 600/650 and have no idea what they're doing.

I carefully stretched mine over a shit load of books (which is the wrong thing to do btw) and the headband didn't come close to snapping.

Why are people so insecure over the 600/650? are they all akg or beyer owners? It doesn't make any fucking sense.

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>mfw listening to grados

Who actually enjoys these memephones? Dat treble

>>59677934
>>59677945
>Only looking at the pictures
>Not really his story

>>59677945
What's the correct way to stretch 600/650?

>>59677945
Because they're overhyped to shit in this general. The "perfect" headphone.

If they were treated as what they are (a good $300 headphone with strong points as well as weak ones), I'm sure they would get much less hate.

i found some sr125's in my house
i need a 6.3mm to 3.5mm jack and to replace the pads (current ones are really old and turn to dust when you touch them)
is it actually worth bothering with these? wuts da soundstage like

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>>59678092
dude can you stop

>>59677554
>HD600+fulla2 godly
It's decent, not godly. Got fulla2 and uber stack of schiit. HD598 sounds awesome on both, but HD600 suffers a little on fulla2 when compared to the stack.

The gain is also not sufficient, and the sound somehow falls apart past 9 o'clock or so.

>>59677727
>I'd like to see some before and after EQ graphs.
Characterizing the Frequency Response of Headphones – a new Paradigm
Effect of Headphone Equalization on Auditory Distance Perception
Factors That Influence Listeners' Preferred Bass and Treble Levels in Headphones
Listener Preferences for Different Headphone Target Response Curves
Listener Preferences for In-Room Loudspeaker and Headphone Target Responses
The Correlation between Distortion Audibility and Listener Preference in Headphones

All peer reviewed AES research papers. All can be found in the wiki.

>>59677969
HD600 owner here.

Just wearing them. Painful the first day. A little uncomfortable after. Gets looser and looser over time.

1 month now, they're already very comfy.

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>>59677969
search in yt for "HD6xx PSA"
thank me later.

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>>59678146
Thanks for the help anon. Some plots here from "Effect of Headphone Equalization on Auditory Distance Perception".

>>59678099
don't reply to him. do what 4chan rules say you should do when someone spams.

>>59678260
yeah just did

>>59678172
I'm not looking for research papers where people have thousands of dollars worth of measuring equipment to tune their EQ settings. No, I'm asking what YOU can do, or the average headphone user here can do to fix their headphones with EQ. And the answer is not a lot.

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>>59678190
HD 650 here, I did the same. It's worth it so they adjust perfectly to the shape of your head, including the earpads. And a good amount of clamp is preferable for me as long as it isn't too much. There was a bit too much pressure on my jaw back when I first got them that was bothering me a bit, but now they're comfy enough to the point that I can wear them for 6+ hours straight.

>>59677986
We're all here for the audio, and the hd600's sound fucking amazing unless you need monster bass. Most people can't afford 600's so they get jealous.

>>59678332
>thousands of dollars worth of measuring equipment to tune their EQ settings
EQ doesn't cost a thing and you don't need equipment to do it, just software.
>I'm asking what YOU can do, or the average headphone user here can do to fix their headphones with EQ
Install a parametric equalizer, understand how to operate it, play around with filters and test tones and then do whatever you want.
>And the answer is not a lot.
What makes you say that? The only issue I see is a lack of a clear reference point and this is where some skill in listening along with appropriate test tones come into play to aid you. Perhaps some help from measurements too just to give you some perspective but you'll have to be careful with those. You can't make a completely accurate EQ for your own ears on an industry leading measurement coupler either as your own HRTF differs from its. There's always room for manual adjustment.

>>59677969
Jesus fucking christ ignore what everyone else has said.

Open the headphones to the maximum size. After that, stretch the metal band with moderate pressure, one side at a time.

That's it, do it bit by bit and you will feel the difference straight away.

>>59677945
>And the headband didn't come close to snapping
What? You wouldn't know until *snap* it's too late.

>>59678514
>just play it by ear, it'll be fine I swear
>you can totally create a reference sound of $1000+ headphones from your $200 ones, trust me
Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with common sense, thank you very much.

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>>59678481
>the hd600's sound fucking amazing unless you need monster bass. Most people can't afford 600's so they get jealous.

It's like the story of the fox without a tail.

http://read.gov/aesop/117.html

>Do not listen to the advice of him who seeks to lower you to his own level.

>>59678133
Seems like you're the same guy I spoke about the fulla 2 with over a week ago. I'm loving my fulla 2 over my old e10k, I sold that thing yesterday and it was definitely harsher sounding imo.

What makes the schitt stack better than the fulla 2?. You clearly think it sounds better, tell me why f.am.

>>59677951
They have a certain sound there is no wrong in using multiple cans

>>59678481
>>59678566
Some people just want bass in general.

>>59678566
tail = monster bass?

>>59678592
They clearly don't know what they want. I know better than you anon! I know better! Buy a HD600! It's perfect in every way! Behead those who dislike the HD600!

>>59677466
How do they compare to Fidelio X2

>>59678564
Your own price point comparison is a good example of a common sense not working. Price isn't related to headphone sound quality in any way even if it would be nice to think that more expensive equals better quality. Does your common sense also form strong opinions on concepts you don't understand or is that trait actually something else?

>>59678655
Yeah, I guess you're right. brb selling all my headphones, shitphones from Walmart for $10 should be good enough.

>>59678686
I don't have time for someone who twists what I say in every single post. Have a good one anon.

>>59678647
Sound quality-wise? Generally: less bass, more treble, less soundstage, and more grain in the higher frequency.

>>59678584
Yeah, that's probably me. I got my actual fulla2 (before, I had the opportunity to test a loan).

This is playing some idol songs, think mastered -20dB average.

HD598 sound the same.

HD600, at low volume, sounds identical. This is up to 8-9 o'clock or so. After that, knob doesn't just increase the volume, but it also starts changing the sound, which is a bad sign. It does indeed sound subjectively worse than the magni2 does in that (effective) volume range.

Furthermore, and even at the max, the volume isn't that high either. For most music/games it is ok, but it tends to be too little gain for series and movies, and some games. This is also a problem with the magni2 at low gain, but that's what the gain switch is for. At high, the range is about perfect for the HD600.

>>59678695
Yeah you too Mr. $10-shitphones-are-the-best

>>59678584
>You clearly think it sounds better, tell me why f.am.
He's retarded, don't listen to him.

Anyone who claims differences between amps which have flat FR, low distortion/noise/output impedance is retarded.

>>59678734
Yeah, all headphone outs sound the same. And amps and dacs are a meme.

>>59677986
They are definitely overmemed to death but they are the most natural sounding out of bunch while not being fatiguing at all. Look at HD700, it has bass, more treble and so on but not many people liked it.

>>59678725
>>59678695
Surely, you can EQ anything into great sound. There's no need to buy HD600 memes.

>>59678705
Thanks info
The SHP9500 seem to be end of life or something

>>59678786
They're only budget headphones. Nice budget headphones, but budget headphones nonetheless.

>>59678709
Thanks for the reply, I love my fulla 2 but the schitt stack and schitt brand in general has peaked my interest. I'm not sure If i'll upgrade anytime soon bit when I do i'll look at the stack etc. Cheers m8.

>>59678786
Them FaithfulFucks are the endgame, you frivolous oaf.

>>59678832
Never claimed them to be. Only budget headphones. :)

>>59678820
Just keep in mind fulla2 dac line-out (the dac-only one, unaffected by volume) should suffice if all you need is the extra power.

The modi2 isn't going to sound any better. DACs aren't that hard to get right.

I got mine anyway because I find the spdif optical/coax of the uber version convenient vs messing with usb. Most motherboards have spdif outputs or at least headers in the board. Brackets are cheap on aliexpress. Also game consoles and other devices do optical out.

>>59677986
"Overhyped"? They're just popular, and have been around for many years. A lot of people own them, especially since along with the 650, they're still one of the best models of headphones on the market.

>>59678847
:^)

>>59678920
Yes, overhyped. There's a difference between saying it's a good choice at the price point and saying it beats the sennheiser hd800.

>>59678924
;^)

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>>59678695
I'm impressed you lasted as long as you did. Brain damage general.

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>>59678960
^_^

>>59678914
So you're telling me one of the modi god knows whatever it's called will improve my fulla 2? and my fulla 2 will work as a dac only?

I'm slightly drunk, pls respond

>>59678958
Who said they were? Either way, even if they were only approaching the quality of the HD800, it would still make them a good choice. There's just more people that own them, more people that post about them, more opportunities for you to be triggered by somebody saying something dumb.

>>59679073
~_^

>>59679097
>slightly drunk
Right.

Fulla2 + Magni2 + HD600 is a nice combo.

>>59679138
People say retarded shit about them all the time, which is why I'm guessing other people shit all over them.

>>59679213
You seem to think there must be a difference between the two sides. People are always flinging shit at each other here.

>>59679247
That's basically what I was saying.

>people overhype sennheisers
>other people get irritated and shit talk sennheisers

>>59679247
Anal Technica
Veil/Snapheisers
TrustyFails
Beyers Remorse
Shiit

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You have 20 minutes to suggest me every single good headphones set for under 25$.

GO

>>59679310
hSSSsssss

>>59679322
>good
>under $25
Pick one.

>>59679304
That's one way to put it. But it's not necessarily the same person or people talking about it each thread, they're just often mentioned.

There was one Beyerdynamic loving guy just the other day that complained how the HD 650s are "expensive af". Some people just can't justify to themselves paying ~$300+ for headphones.

http://read.gov/aesop/005.html

>There are many who pretend to despise and belittle that which is beyond their reach.

>>59679322
How about I suggest you headphones that should cost under $25 instead.
>Ulrasone Edition 10
>AKG K240
>Sennheiser Amperior
>Koss PortaPro
>Grado PS1000
>HiFiMAN HE400S
>Audeze LCD-XC
>Stax SR-1
>Philips Fidelio L1
>Beyerdynamic T90

Hope it helps! :-)

>>59679436
Well played!

>>59679435
Sometimes it feels like I'm always talking to the same person.
Complaining the 650s are expensive is a retarded thing to do though. I do believe them and the 600 should be priced identically though. However, I doubt most of the people shitting on them cannot afford them. Good beyers and AKGs are $200, as is the 6XX. They're all in the same general price range.

>>59679435
>Unironically using the "The Fox and the Grapes"
I get what you're saying, but why even include the story?

>>59677405
thing I love about anime is how pretty it is even though life itself is not too pretty

it's a relic of childhood for adults to lose themselves in

>>59679529
What did he mean by this?

>>59679436
nice meme!
well memed friendo!

>>59679529
Reality just sucks. Society's made of people who have given up.

What's so bad about Dr Beats Dr Dre? for just 12.50$?

>>59679674
Money burned which could have gone into getting some HD600.

>>59679495
>I doubt most of the people shitting on them cannot afford them

Really? I see people around here often asking for comparisons between them and cheaper headphones such as the Fidelio X2s and K7XX. Or about how they might need to spend more and buy something else along with it, since they might require an amp, which they don't know anything about or why they would ever need one. They seem to dread the thought of it. They're so reluctant, it's funny.

>>59679522
It's just the context of that bit of wisdom I was quoting. It, along with "The Fox Without a Tail" that I posted earlier should probably be required reading for people that post on here.

>>59679702
>The Fox Without a Tail
The Fool Without an Amp?

>>59679687
Well I'm getting a clone, is there going to be any huge problem with the quality?

>>59679702
I doubt the people asking for advice are the ones actively shitting on headphones, anon.

>>59679736
Dude you payed $12.50 what do you expect. It's gonna sound abysmally bad and build quality will be worse than the already rubbish build of the real beats.

>>59679736
You got chinked.

>>59679762
Well it was just an example, but you don't think someone that owns some cheaper headphones such as Beyerdynamics would? Maybe some lower impedance ones that they didn't need to worry about buying an amp for?

>>59679836
No, not really. And they're only marginally cheaper. HD6XXs are in the same price range.
Only the 250/600 ohm beyers are worth anything, and those require amping too. I think this whole poorfag nonsense is your own bias coming into play.

>>59679769
>That bass roll-off
>That driver matching

Implying Sony's SHP aren't good.

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1st for HD650.

>>59679923
It can be as simple as someone justifying their purchase of a different brand. People are incredibly materialistic. We're always scheming against one another to derive gratification or satisfaction of our selfish individual desires. Most of the human race is still completely owned by that nonsense.

Hey, hey /g/. I'll just browse e-bay and randomly choose some 10$ headphones. Because my own luck is better than 4chan's luck. :^)

>>59680152
Good luck asking for advice here without Sennheiser shilling or anti-Sennheiser shilling coming right at you. Damn shills get too mad at anything.

>>59680122
You can wax philosophical all you want, but you'll find no agreement from me. Your desire to justify "haters" of your preferred headphone as inferior beings only indicates your own failings as a human being.

Hey /hpg/, why are HD 600s so garbage at bass response and driver matching? Are they not the be all, end all type of headphones?

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf

HD600 / Schiit stack idol garbage signing off for the night.

Enjoy some good old Horie Yui \o/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv0pdIc046g

>>59680193
I'm not justifying anything, that's just reality. Unfortunately.

>>59680303
You're no different than the people you are belittling. Remember that.

>>59680193
>wax
earwax might explain a lot, actually.

What headphones are the closest to Sennheiser HD25s, but open? I like the sound signature, just wish for better soundstage

>>59680335
I don't claim to be

>>59677871
>Sennheiser said the HD 650 headband is made of Kevlar-reinforced crap with titanium stuff
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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Query: I have these and they still sound just as they day I bought them, but the headband and earpads are shot to shit. The cans themselves won't push themselves close to my ears and hang open unless I squish them together.

My question is, can I fix them myself, can I send them in to get repaired, or should I just by a new (different?) pair?

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>>59680438
>it's a kevlar-reinforced cable and titanium color finish

>>59680546
get new pads anon

>>59680646
I was already planning on doing that, but they don't physically clasp around my ear. I don't want to do anything until I know I can fix that.

I think a spring or a limiter broke inside the connector to the headband.

Sennheiser more like SHITheiser

>>59681094
Ayy

>>59677405
>anti-Sennheiser
Is this a "safe place" for Sennheiser shills now?

so why would you ever use anything BUT usb in? If you don't have a toslink on your motherboard you need some meme pci sound card. same with coaxial.

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>enjoying my friday by relaxing with my HD800 and some top shelf whis-

Wait, you guys aren't poor, are you? Just checking.

>>59681374
Nah, most people here have STAX, and a few have an Orpheus system. We just like to pretend that we have a lot less money than we really do.

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>mfw listening to my RE-ZEROs after putting Comply Foam on them

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>>59681518
SR-007 Mk1 here

This general sure is quiet with a lot of the shitposting, shilling, and memeing out of the way.

>>59677986
It has weaknesses but it's a solid all rounder and very neutral for a headphone.

Right now I'm in the mood for more treble so I'm using my DT880 more often these days despite it being less neutral. HD600 is still my favorite headphone.

>>59681930
Please buy HD800's.

>>59682046
With those anons now ignored, there is no more info for the Sennheiser owners to get mad over. Peaceful, isn't it?

>>59682128
To be fair I've ascended from FLAC's and have achieved the point of listening to shitty Youtbe rips because I'm that drunk.

Unless you're sober, in which case pick what you like, FLAC's are only necessary when you're stoned. If you're drunk listen to liquid diarrea and it'll sound good.

>>59682325
diarrhea is already a liquid, genius

>>59682325
I mean, it almost seemed like last thread ago, anons were fighting over anime posting. That was intense; now this. No anons getting mad over such trivial ideas, no anons fighting over such subjective things. What do you call this feeling? Serenity?

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>>59682432
I don't see how it's serenity to be honest unless someone wants to challenge me. I'll be open and say I'm a pisshead and have been drunk 300+ times, where-as I've been stoned maybe 30 times if that.

Drunk, even the most inspiring music I've ever listened to just becomes background noise. Stoned, shit is fucking intense and I see geometric shapes and think autistic shit.

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>>59682498
Ahhh, let me ask you a question, my fellow friendly anon. My are Sennheisers hated so much, yet are still recommended so often? No other headphones are this controversial. Why is that? This place is a magical world of awe and wonderment, isn't it?

>>59682603
I'll answer this question by saying this.

Last time I listened to some music I liked I ran 2 miles home from being ripped off my tits on weed and loved the fuck out of the shit music I had the sense to play through my shit earbuds.

Right now, after drinking some top tier whisky for the last 5 hours and finally donning my HD800's...

Basically state of mind is way more important than what the fuck ever I don't care go kill yourself faggot, if you need proof ask me and go kill yourself also bitch.

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I think the LCD2's are my endgame headphones. For the first time ever, i forget about the quality headphone and just experience the music; warm, pleasing and unadulterated.

>>59682710
Yeah, you sound drunk alright.

>>59682803
That's great to hear, my guy. Enjoy them while they last.

>>59682710
>>59682856
My bad; I am sorry for disrupting the peace.

A good android only tablet for:
>Netflix
>Hdmi out
>Light gaming
>Indoors using

Thanks

>>59683148
Wrong general, anon.

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>>59682803
The LCD2 is definitely the best Audeze headphone out there but I can't get around the weight and how uncomfortable they were.

I also liked the warmer balance of the XC

>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
On/over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Will be wearing for ~3 hours daily so it doesnt have to be too comfy nor very uncomfortable
>Sound signature
Bassy(Dark)/Slight V
>Past headphones
Superlux 668B's (Experimenting with pads atm, Cosmos K240 bring bass closer to neutral while SR950 velours bring it up, like SR950 pads more though both sound good)

669's
681's
PortaPros (Current travel phones)
VE Monk+
JVC HAFX40


What's a direct on/over ear upgrade from PortaPros within $100 for portable use?

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>>59683283
Here's 668B+SR950 Pad EQ

>>59683278
I had those issues at first but if i sit it right on my head, i can stand the weight and clamp. For instance last night i listened to Santana's first 3 albums back to back with them on, and they felt fully comfortable and i had no issues even by the end. I just hope the drives hold out (mine is the 2013 pre-fazor bought second hand).

>>59683292
Use the preamp

>>59683148
Sennheiser HD600.

>>59683408
I have it at -8DB on the preamp cureently and reset the 200-800Hz back to 0

what's more end-game than Schiit stack + th-x00s? how much more would I have to spend for noticeable gains?

>>59683770
If I remember correctly, some of Audeze's lineup have a similar sound signature as the TH-X00.

Give those a listen and see if you prefer them.

>>59683770
None, anything after that is diminishing returns unless you have cash burning your pocket.

This may not be the best place to ask but what speakers / monitors do you recommend for pc gaming / music / movies for around <$300

>>59677405
Damn my dick is hard again. I love Yui.

>>59683920
JBL LSR305

>>59683770
TH-900 my dude

schiit stack is pretty good
what version tho? Uber?

>Budget
up to 500$ but prefer about 300-400$
I can buy online and shiettt
>Location
Israel
>Source
I plug to computer yes
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible
>Sound signature
I have no idea what these mean but I listen to meme rap and edgy emo music with screaming
>Past headphones
Shure SE215, ATH-M50X

>>59684442
I'd go for thx-00 (on massdrop now for 400), and get a little amp/dac like fulla 2 ( i know it's recommemded too much here but it's good for the price)

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I just bought the K612 Pro, I don't think I can ever go back to my DT770 Pro.

How can Beyerdynamic even compete?

Public headphones recommendations?

(No preference on anything and any price range)

>>59684761
K81/K518

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/62q7lg/rheadphones_golden_age_is_over/

>>59683984
She's not real

Do you guys know any cheap open IEM? I need them for skating around, so they can't be isolating for safety reasons.

>>59677466
I missed the chance to get those for 15$ by two hours. Fuck baenis.

>>59685156
when and where?

>>59684745
Closed headphones don't compete with open headphones.

What some good light-weight headphones, /g/?

Also I'm looking for wireless earbuds headphones, do those exist?

>>59685319
Apple AirPods

Sony MDRXD150B or Plantronics Audio 355?

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>>59684761
bump

looking for more suggestions

>>59685347
neither

>>59685388
Give me a third and fourth option.

For someone who doesn't have a fortune to spend on audio cards and headphones.. what do you recommend me /hpg/?

So /hpg/, I've got a pair of HD600s that I've had sitting on a shelf for a while because they just sound so dull out of my T520 and smartphone. What cheap dac&amp combo device would you recommend to get them producing an acceptable level of sound? Emphasis on cheap. I know the O2/schiit stack are typically recommended, and these cans are improved by good amping, but I just want something really cheap that will get them sounding passable.

>>59685446

>Budget
>Location
>Source
>Type of headphone
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
>Sound signature
>Past headphones

>>59685478
Fulla 2

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>>59682803
Ayy I just got some of those (Fazor version), they are so sooo good. Lyr 2 coming in next week to replace my Magni 1.

How does the updated e10k compare to the old one and more importantly, the fulla 2?

>>59681673
Ditto.

What is that amp though? KGDT? Doesn't look like a KGST.

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Anyone here have the B&W P9? Is it worth the upgrade if you have a B&W P7?

>>59685890
>>>/fa/

>>59684761
Oppo pm 3s are good closed headphones.

>>59685969
They're not headphones cause they look better than your average chink shit designs?

Is the Sennheiser HD 559 a decent headphone for casual use?
I'm searching for a budget headphone of around €100.

>>59685574
>Fulla 2
I have HD600, schiit stack and fulla2.

Don't. Just get the schiit stack. Fulla 2 doesn't have enough gain even at max, and it distorts past 8-9 o'clock.

>>59685814
>e10k (relative to fulla2)
Advantages:
* Bass boost switch (for niggabass!).
* $10 cheaper.
Disadvantages:
* No line-in (forced to use the usb dac).
* Chink.
* Way less power.
* Lots of complaints about the device breaking.

>>59686404
>559
Worse than 558. Avoid.

Preference should be: 599 > 598se > 558

Amazon does sales for the 598se around 100€. (99€ in france a few weeks ago!).

See camelcamelcamel dot com.

>>59685428
Holy shit boyz, get in while you can. Looks like it will be a cheaper version of HD800S without fancy box and balanced cable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NYVSq2MnbI&feature=youtu.be

>>59683803
so the answer is "a lot"
when I get to that point shouldnt I look into stax or some shit

>>59683805
that's what I figured...what do I do now?

>>59684266
yeah, Uber. needed it for all the extra inputs/outputs.

Does anyone own the Sony MDR-ZX770BN and if so, is it a good purchase as my first wireless headphones? Sick of wires but I'll just use it in public transport/daily commute.

Can notice a really slight imbalance in my hd 650s, if I change the audio balance by like 1 or 2 it seems fine, is this ok or is it really worth it to send it back for repairs?

I think I'm going to pick up some sennheiser hd 280 headphones from cl. Do you guys recommend a headphone amp or anything for my pc if my case has one built in? What about if my speakers have one? Is an independent one objectively better?

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>>59687567
>buy chink shit
>complain about getting chinked

>>59687055
April fools.

>>59687211
>that's what I figured...what do I do now?
Get new cans, not amps/dacs.

>>59687604
>I think I'm going to pick up some sennheiser hd 280 headphones from cl.
Get HD380 Pro. They're a world better than 280.

Do not waste your money on amps. Not when your budget for cans is that low. Maybe once you get to HD598 territory. Definitely if you get to HD600.

>>59687741
What about Sennheiser Momentums? They are also on cl

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Good morning, /hpg/.

>>59687211
>so the answer is"a lot"
Depends on which Audeze headphone you're after, and the condition (new/used). I've seen some great condition used LCD 2 for sale for $700-800, or around there.

Electrostats generally have a low end that is more lean than dynamic and orthodynamic/planar headphones. If you're looking for something that has a good amount of low end impact, I'd stay away from electrostats unless you would be considering something such as the SR-007 or the like (even then, I'd still recommend trying the headphone first, before you buy).

>>59687741
amps are a meme, my onboard sounds the same as my collection of amps

>>59688400
why are you collecting amps?

>>59678545
My point is that I stretched them to double the size of a human fucking head. I don't even understand how people can snap it so easily.

>>59687754
>Momentums
They are for use outside, colored. Get if that's what you want.

Whereas the HD380 Pro are studio monitors, they do at least try to present sound to you correctly.

>>59688455
He probably doesn't even own a cheap dedicated dac/amp, much less an amp collection.

Most people here talk out of their ass.

>>59688455
because i can
>>59688519
keep on drinking the amp kool aid

>>59688586
Cans need juice.

>>59688400
>59679726

How have I lived without this:

https://hackaday.com/2017/04/01/introducing-the-hackaday-passive-aligned-ferrite-active-quantum-crystal-nanoparticle-reference-sticker/

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>>59677405
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013DCKDFI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Is this the type of 1/8' cables I use for the Fulla 2's Variable Preamp Output? I'm trying to connect the Fulla 2 to my PC tower because the USB is messing up on Win7.

>>59688884
>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013DCKDFI/
Yes. Just standard 3.5" male-male jack-to-jack.

And you want that plugged from pc line-out to fulla2 line-in.

The "variable preamp output" is an output, meant for going to, say, amplified speakers, with fulla2 knob controlling the volume.

The other output, "dac output", is meant to go to another amp (like a magni2), is unaffected by volume, and always outputs from the amp (never from the line-in).

>>59684920
DELETE THIS

>>59688936
*and always outputs from the DAC (never from the line-in).

PC line out -> Analog Input (2)

All connections are 3.5" jack or microusb except for the 1/4" headphone jack.

>>59688936
So it would go into the #2 part on the front, correct?

>>59689001
Correct.

>>59689020
Thanks anon. It seems to have a bit of white/static noise in the background compared to when I use a USB. A bit of a shame.

>>59689180
Yeah, well. That's why people get external DACs like the one in the Fulla 2. Computers often do suck.

Budget: ~€100 (maximum €150)
Location: Belgium, Europe
Source: My desktop, phone
Type of headphone: Full-sized but as portable as possible
Open or closed: I'd like to try open headphones
Comfort level: rather comfy, something that won't hurt your ears/head after 3 hours of use
Past headphones: I used to have a €20 Phillips headphone but the new ones are supposed to be my first quality headphone.

I have a friend who recommended Sennheiser HD598 but they seem rather pricey (€ 170 - 180 atm), although I tried it and they sound really good and look nice too.

Could I get some advice/recommendations?

>>59689660
HD599 or HD598se.

Price gets way lower (eg: 99€ in amazon.fr) during sales. Do not only look at your closest amazon.

Use camelcamelcamel.com or similar to track prices / set alarms.

Thinking of getting an m40x, do i need an dac+amp? Using it for gaming/music

>>59687567
Kek. That really is on you, mate. But nothing short of normal for Sennheisers. Look at this shitty driver balancing. Even worse for the HD 600.

See:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD650.pdf
and
>>59687675

>>59689814
This means you'd have to EQ each channel separately. $10-walmart-shitphones anon will defend this.

>>59687567
wear it reversed, is it still there?

>>59689660
HD 598 is probably your only option. AKG K612 PRO are better in this price range, but also require good amp.
By the way open headphones are in no way suitable as portable headphones. Get some chink iems, like xiaomi piston 3 and leave your headphones at home.

>>59689961
>Driver imbalance
>Wear it reversed

Is the DT880 an upgrade or sidegrade to the K612? Is anything really an upgrade after the K612?

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>spending money on headphones

>>59690048
Poorfag.

>>59689747
I've heard some people say they need an amp, the only way to know for sure is to see when you get it.

>>59690003
Your shitposting crusade blinds you from everything else. Take a walk. Point was obviously to test whether it was driver imbalance or difference in hearing sensitivity in anon's ears.

>>59687567
Wear them reversed, test with different tones and with your eyes closed. Do you locate the sound consistently off center based on the orientation of the headphones or not? Whatever the case, you can fix it with EQ but you shouldn't tolerate audible levels of channel imbalance. In that case my advice is to send them back and ask for replacement. Doing QC for channel balance is fast and a very easy procedure at the factory. At this price point there is no excuse.

There's also a very slight chance of the output having channel imbalance. To test out for that, just plug them into your phone or something else or compare to other pair of headphones.

>>59689747
Amplifier/DAC checklist:
-Is it too quiet?
-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
If the answer is no, don't get one.

>>59690154
Ahhh, but graphs don't lie, anon.

>>59690037
Sidegrade, different sound signature. Basically AKG school vs Beyer school. Both headphones are at the same level pretty much as far as sound quality goes.
There is plenty of upgrades depending on how much do you want to spend on this hobby. For starters senn hd600/650. You can try AKG k7 series, however it's more of a sidegrade than upgrade too.
Easiest upgrade for k612 is getting good amp, if you don't have one start with this.

>>59690037
>Is anything really an upgrade after the K612?

You say that like the k612 is possibly the best headphone available. For a start, the 702 is better.

>>59690037
What sound signature do you prefer?

>>59690441
>hobby
buying headphones is a hobby?

>>59690501
Wasting money on stupid shit is a hobby. See: mkg, csg, hpg, tpg, etc.

>>59690037
Depends on what you like. Thinking in upgrades is generally a poor way to look at audio products. It doesn't quite work that way and others can't really tell you the answer here, especially if you don't see anything particularly wrong with the K612.

>>59690514
How contrived. Sad!

>>59689660
>as portable as possible
>open headphones
Uhhhh.

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>>59690537
problem poorfag?

>>59690543
Careful, Tyrone's going to steal your shit.

>>59690479
No, it's not.
>>59690501
Apparently it is.

>>59689660
HD 558/598 or even the HD 518. Not many full sized headphones come with carrying cases or things to lug them around with. All of these are sensitive enough that your portable devices should power them easily.

>>59690568
Yes it is. And there are many different headphones that are better than the k612.

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>>59690543
Where's your god now?

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>>59690676
right here

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>>59677405
So, I'm only just starting to venture into good headphones, and would like some recs on where to start out.
>budget $150~
>neutral or slightly increased treble is ideal
>closed over ear
>something that isn't going to fall apart in a couple years

The only headphones I ever really had that weren't some el cheapo shit were pic related, which I loved years ago (Why the fuck are there so little higher-quality clip ons on the market?) and they sounded great for any kind of J-music, I assume because they were better for the higher ranges.
Right now I'm looking at Sennheiser HD 598 Cs and Audio Technica ATHM50X, but I'm open to anything. I remember the M50X or M50 being popular a year or two back, do they still hold up today?

>>59690631
>And there are many different headphones that are better than the k612
Yes, but k702 is not one of them.

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>>59690691
>digital
You filthy casual.

>>59677554
Fulla 2 is a bit schiity desu.

>>59690757
Your opinion is worthless, sennshill

>>59690757
This

>>59690787
Hey, let's not throw insults at each other, now.
>>59690757
Any reason for this?

>>59690785
would sooner buy a fulla 2 than any agd product though

>>59690815
Do you mean FiiO? Audio-gd doesn't even have stuff in that low price range

>>59690845
audio-gd doesn't have any good products, the fulla 2 is better than anything they have.

>>59690862
Now you're just making sweeping generalizations, Anon.

>>59690814
k702 and k612 PRO have (slightly) different sound signatures. k702 has better soundstage but other than that it's mostly personal preference.
I find k612 to be more neutral and fun to listen too.

>>59690894
not really, it's common knowledge that audio-gd products are trash

>>59690904
I see
>>59690787
See, anon? All personal preference. I'll stick with my comfy Q701s.

>>59690920
[citation needed]

Don't you think it's a bit too early for projecting, anon?

>>59690621
>HD518
That's for niggerbass. Avoid.

>>59690960
you should probably learn what projecting is before parroting the term because somebody used it against you in some other thread.

>>59690738
>neutral
HD380 Pro.

HD598Cs are coloured garbage for the riffraff, exploiting the 598 reputation.

>>59690993
?

>>59691000
>HD380 Pro
That's bassy.

>>59691008
Sorry; see
>>59691006

>>59690993
you want citation?

http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/audio-gd-singularity-19-dac-measurements.4135/#post-128775

here's a TOTL audio-gd product measuring like shit, as expected.

people who know what they're talking about avoid their products like the plague. cavalli audio stuff is garbage too.

>>59691058
There you go, anon. Wasn't too hard, now, was it? Maybe you should give reasons before calling out shit, eh?

>>59691079
sorry, sometimes i forget the people i'm replying to are clueless and things like audio-gd products being trash aren't common knowledge to them already.

>>59691097
Attaboy, anon. And while you're at it, change your tone too. Seems like you have an issue with anyone going against you. Getting too mad easily, anon? :)

>>59691145
i don't play well with newfags

>>59691097
>>59691145
Stop samefagging

>>59691199
Or anyone who disappoints you, eh? First steps, anon. First step.

>>59691225
no 'or'

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>>59691224
:^)
>>59691234
Getting a bit serious, anon?

>>59691259
You're both insufferable. Commit double suicide.

>>59691323
Not yet, anon. Anything bothering you?

>>59690815
I have a friend who bought their flagship amp and he has to send it back twice to China because of channel imbalance. When we opened it up, it turned out that the JFETs in the left channel are improperly soldered so it wouldn't put through enough current to get it operational. The soldering work in this thing is pretty bad.

Still can't deny that it sounds nice when it finally works.

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Just got my THX00. Feeling pretty comfy right about now.

>>59691522
does it have a vacuum cleaner cable?

>>59691546
You bet!

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Love em!

>>59691601
I don't get IEM people.

>>59691613
Me neither when you use Shures.

>>59691613
As my LCD XC is sent away for repair for the SECOND time in one year i have really got to spend alot of time with these and they are very close to the audezes in soundquality.
There are iems and then there are good iems. Sucks that they are so fucking expensive!

>>59691719
Why do companies that make planars seem to have so many problems? We laugh at Hifiman for their ChiFi crap but Audeze really has no excuse for the constant problems they have.

>>59691798
Because they're harder to make than inferior dynamic drivers.

>>59691842
But a lot of the time it isn't even the drivers that have problems, it's the rest of the headphone.

>>59691842
>Because they're harder to make than inferior dynamic drivers.
How to tell somebody's been drinking the planar kool aid.

They're planar-DYNAMIC FFS.

>>59691885
They're also heavier and larger.
>>59691959
>mad dynamicuck
Enjoy your point source of sound, faggot

>>59691885
First time it was a faulty wire in the connection to the cable, this time around a dead driver.

>>59691982
Heavier + Larger = hard to QC?

>>59691842
No, they are really not.

>>59691798
Much more niche products, smaller industries. And planars are dynamic drivers. Operation principle is much similar.

>>59691508
>tfw no audiophile friends to experience placebo with

Just kill me already.

>>59692037
Prove it, dynamicuck. You can't.

>>59691719
>they are very close to the audezes in soundquality
doesn't say much

What are the best headphones if I like lots of bass? Price range sub $500. I have an amp.

>>59692163
DT770 Pro 80 ohm.

>>59692147
Never does with audio equipment does it?
To me they are a on the go replacement for something like LCD-2, XC or HD800s. Similar sound to Audezes stuff as in warm and nice sounding.

>>59692163
HD600

>>59691601
id on these IEMs?

>>59692163
Eh, just a lot of bass? I'm sure you can be more specific than this. At least you should if you want a decent product.

>>59692257
Shure SE846 Clears

>>59692250
>Bass
>HD 600

>>59692275
>>59692250
Samefag.

>>59692178
thanks

>>59692273
uhh, lots of bass, don't care about mids, highs that aren't jarring I guess. Using at home, don't care about open/closed.

>>59692163
>>59692250
>>59692275
>>59692291
literally all me

>>59692280
>>59692273
> $1000
> iems
bahaha wtf

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>>59692291
>>59692303
Almost likely me.

>>59692316
I've heard $5 IEMs that sound on par with SE846.

>>59692294
You should care about the rest equally, even if you prefer bassy sound. Simplifying the response to "bass mids and treble" often distracts from the idea that they are all relative.

Fidelio X2 would be pretty decent pick I guess.

>>59692316
Quite expensive for universal models indeed. I don't like them in either sound or fit but that's why I'm not the owner.

>>59692334
White filter is alright but the SE846 still lacks extension and still has too much midbass. The housing is really big, too.

New thread:

>>59692353
>>59692353

>>59692163
Argon

>>59691508
He got chinked.

This doesn't happen with shiit amps, as these are built in murika.

>>59693619
>This doesn't happen with shiit amps
But that did happen with Schiit gear, some would be missing parts and drop digital input.