/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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behold, the (((new))) and (((improved))) 2017 Thinkpads

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>>59571257

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>>59571257
It's fucking terrible. Stop trying to clone the fucking macbook ffs.

How about this for a tidied up, more compact OP (suggestions welcome!):

Previous thread: >>59538119

IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

New to /tpg/ or looking for purchasing advice? (hint: use the advice request template, it makes life easier)
http://pastebin.com/JiXZ2f0t

Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

xsauc buyers guide:
http://www.dankpads.com

EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/JVwVGVTW

Helpful links and resources (Wiki, lookup tools and wallpapers):
http://pastebin.com/DYjEnVq1

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>>59571609

From previous thread.
>>59570662
Yes, even H.264.
It could be because there's no dGPU, and I'm using SW decoding though.

>>59571666
yea the Z61t totally loooks like a macbook clone


retard

t420s user here, best laptop I ever owned, I hope it will be my workhorse for another 3 years atleast.

>>59571257
I saw someone at college using this, originally thought he painted the body silver. Looked pretty bad either way.

>>59572134
Hope that will be true. Wish it has an ips panel instead.

>>59568992
So they were off from other lenovo laptop such as the ideapad line? I really want to mod my broken t420s with a better panel. Something that is 100% sRGB at least...

>>59572435
Yup, really wish I had an IPS upgrade available, but the rest is ok, will get a new keyboard, ssd, battery and ultrabay battery soon, already have an ssd and i7 2620m, not much more i can upgrade, will prob get 16gb of ram, atm I have 8.
Nevertheless the laptop works flawlessly atm

>>59571638
>no recommended X220 and T420 models

no. fuck off.

>>59572780
seems redundant to suggest reading the buyers guide but then make a suggestion on the t420/x220

>>59571257
There's decent Yoga models. Well, one. The X1.

>>59572710
Some chicks did made a chip that converts lvds connection to edp for some specific ips panels, but seem like they won't sell the conversion kit anymore...the same group of people who responsible for the x320 and x330

>>59572888
Yeah, I looked into it, but I don't mind the 1600x900 panel im using right now, although fhd ips would surely make a huge difference

>>59572918
The X1 carbon screen is much better and pretty much drops in. there is a tutorial on thinkwiki.

>>59571763
>>59571763
>and I'm using SW decoding

I dont know what that means but right now I'm watching this

Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 1h 44mn
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 528 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 10 bits
Writing library : x265 2.0+11

on my T420 and the cpu is at 49C. you should add 5 or 10 degrees cause you got a smaller heatsink but 70-80 is way too high.

>>59573103
>Height : 528 pixels
That's even less than 720p.
Temps when watching something like that is about 50 C.
>SW
Software decoding.

>>59572825
>seems redundant
not at all.

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Why is it impossible to get my hands on a w700ds?

I just want to be able to own the largest thinkpad around.

Hi!
I'm facing a problem with my t450, It can't boot on internal battery. When using external battery and the latter is fully discharged my computer shuts down (no switching). However BAT0 (internal) is well displayed by tlp. The status is always "unknown threshold effective" but the charge level is below threshold.
I tried to hard reset pushing the emergency button, reset bios to default, and opened the cover to disconnect/reconnect internal battery, without success. Have you ever heard of this issue ?

>>59573377
Also it can boot on AC, but if I unplug it, it shuts down instantly.

>>59573391
In addition, this situation only happens when external battery is removed.

what would consider to be the best laptop on the market right now if you just want to play games and stream content ?

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59573572
topkek its real

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ibm-thinkpad-600e-/182491775108?hash=item2a7d5b8084:g:cesAAOSwzgBYyrn4

>>59573175
tested with these too

Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 8mn 5s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Writing library : x264


Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 12mn 5s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 50.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Writing library : x264


first 49, second 50

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>>59573545
>play games and stream content
pick one

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>>>59567150
so the thinktrap is commenting on my "classic" subtitle. dude, its because of the old classic keyboard.

>>59574070
why the fuck would you change the boot screen? are you 12?

>>59573724
OS? video player?

>>59574129
yes, im 12 and whats this?

because its a feature of the BIOS. its nothing as obscure as most retards think it is.

Just vinyl wrapped my X220 trackpad, feels good man

>>59574139
Windows7 mpc-hc

>>59574157
>its nothing as obscure as most retards think it is.
That's exactly the point, it's what a 12 year old would do to look like a l33t special snowflake.

>>59574784
its nothing "1337", corporate does it all the time,, it doesn't say anything related to loonix or shit. its the thinkpad logo and a drawing

>complaining about customization on a highly customizable hardware.

>>59574854
>and a drawing
>not special snowflake tryhard tier behavior

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>>59574993
ah clearly using a well documented feature of a device makes you an special snowflake.

almost forgot where i was

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>>59571257
>gray

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>>59573572
>inferior non-apple machines

t41 for 10$, worth it?
Pentium M 1,6 GHz
1 gig ram and 40 gb harddrive and dockingstation

>>59575187
well yeah, its not an unusable machine. just make sure that it is in working condition.

if you have any use for it, go for it

>>59575271
Have a desktop but need a portable shitposting machine. What should i be looking out for besides what the used buyers guide says?

>>59575021
>well documented feature of a device
That should be used by companies for professional purposes, not for cringey "i'm such a neeerrd" practices.

>>59575333
"im such a neeeerd" have nothing to do with customising the boot screen, it involves nothing a mental impaired person cant do.

>>59575021
Its Stańczyk not Spanish boi

>>59575419
thats the filename i found it with on /pol/

>>59573572
1998 and dem bezels. Better than appletrash up until only the past year.

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>>59575380
>"im such a neeeerd" have nothing to do with customising the boot screen

yes it does, it's right up there with those autistic laptop stickers.

two questions: what anime made you do this? and
how's the relationship with your mom?

My girlfriend needs a laptop for school. (CS) I suggested x220/x230 but she doesn't want to get a used one. I suggested the x260 but now she says it has to be pink and that it might be too heavy for her. What do?

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I'm totally gonna buy a refurb T420. I crave the Thinkvantage. I'm gonna do it, guys.
But one question.

Will I be able to run Windows 7 (or Windows 10 if I can't get 10 off the hard drive reasonably)'s filesystem fairly fast, be able to do processing of documents, and browsing the web without any hitches if I just keep the system as stock as I can? In terms of software used, that is. No weird "debloatifying" shit, no strange chinese bitminers or whatever the fuck. Keeping it simple.

Will I be tearing out my hair in frustration at the slowness of an i5 8GB[RAM] T420? I think I'll have a decent time personally, but I just need confirmation from a bunch of random anonymous users on /g/ who one hundred percent of the time are telling the truth and know what they're talking about. DEFINITELY.

It's not even that big of a expenditure, at a measly CAD$~280-300. But... I don't want it to be for nothing.

>>59575936
are you 12, if those aren't pretty respectable specs to you?

it will run basic tasks just fine no matter the OS

>>59575898
>What do?
dump the whore

>>59575987
Oh, no, they're reasonable to me. I've just had broken hardware, or at least I think, for a lot of my life. So, as a reference point for 8GB of ram, it seems pretty slow to me because it was defective ram. And the only other processor(s) I've had: i3 from long ago, AMD A10 trash piece of shit that keeps overheating...

I'm looking to either trash or sell my old laptops and replace my current primary laptop with the T420.

I do have a Latitude E6410, as well. That runs Linux. Or, rather, ran Linux. I accidentally my inodes, and have yet to fix that shit, but I digress
I'm just so fucking fed up with never having a proper system to work with. I've always had faulty hardware, and it's always driven me insane.
I just want fresh. I want something that works as it is intended. My worst nightmare would probably be something faulty in the refurb job... but either way.

i5 is fine. I don't need an i7. i5 can perform good. Yes, with accurate certainty, an i5 shall do my tasks for me with barely a hitch or stop.

Thanks lad

>>59576056
also get a ssd

>>59576107
Oh, definitely. I'll see if I can pull up my history for the exact listing I was looking at. It may be that the CAD$400 one was the one with an SSD... but hey, TP's are very easy to swap parts and shit so it shouldn't matter.

And, question.
How much of a meme is the "magnesium rollcage"

>>59576119
>T420

what magnesium rollcage?

>>59576226
Oh right, what model has that again? My mistake, apologies.

>>59576234
idk, T61 maybe

Should I buy the Y700? Is it good for all-around use if I want to game as well? Should I go for a different model? I can't decide between Y700 and an inspirion 15 7000. Please help me.

>>59576234
It's clearly all about the T40, lighning proof is all I need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXsDfuVctFk

>>59575744

>anime
jesus, how biased are you?
its not even from an anime, i dont watch anime, the picture its from a mainstream game called titanfall, which i have taken a liking to recently

>how's the relationship with your mom?
she lives in another country.

>with those autistic laptop stickers.

for once i agree on this.

>>59570899
430s best pad

>>59570899
wheres the best place to buy a battery? t420 here

>>59576376
>the picture its from a mainstream game called titanfall, which i have taken a liking to recently
so you're not 12, you're 14. carry on then.

>>59576631
amazon. i think the T420 battery is not listed on lenovo's website anymore.

>>59576620
honestly i think we should stop recommending the XX20 series, and move into the xx30 series now that you can install the xx20 keyboard on them.

>>59576663
my mom says im a big boy already.

>>59576675
aight thanks senpai

>>59571638
>no gay porn links
cmon

>>59571763
I was able to watch 1080p mkv files off an X61T w/ Windows 7 without heat issues...

>>59573374
Just keep a saved search for W700ds on your ebay app for notifications.
I do for transnote and some other laptops.

>>59573572
lol
Sent an offer for $20

>>59574070
>revised classic keyboard
fix'd :P

>>59575187
If it works and isn't too beat up yeah its 'worth it'. but you have a PATA hdd and probably are going to be stuck with PAE distros
Plus they slow nowdays.

>>59575898
Just let her do what she wants with her money
There should be a few pink vaios

>>59576328
ThinkPad and business machines only.
Not consumer business look or gaming business look laptops.
I recommend Linus Tech Tips for people like you.

Can someone explain to me the vgabios/coreboot situation? From what I understand, you need to backup your unique vgabios before flashing coreboot, otherwise your thinkpad won't be able to boot OSes which require graphics at boot time (eg windows or ubuntu) is this true? If so how do I backup my vgabios?

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>>59576010
>>59576970
The options I have for her are x260, macbook something and the xps 13.
I don't trust her with a macbook, I'm sure she will break it or it will get stolen. But it is the only one that is pink.
I'm sure the x260 is the best one for programming (has the best keyboard) and most reliable but how can I convince her to get it?

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Why is this shit allowed?

>>59577054
dumb gooks, that's why

>>59577037
She's best getting the macbook
and you are going to sperg out and break up with her.

The Macbook is probably going to be a hell of a deal with her student discount (email) and extended apple care warranty.
The macbook will hold value more than the x260 will.

Also you saying the X260 is best for programming is subjective. Because literally anyone can code on any computer. Used IBM ThinkPads were recommended for coding in pre 2009 era times.

Though I do agree the macbook would most wanted to get stolen

>>59576675
>and move into the xx30 series
>xx30 series
>hotter and louder vs xx20
>cant use non-genuine batteries
>shit keyboard
>you need chips and hardware programmers and shit to flash an unlocked bios


the official thinkpad hierarchy of actually good recommended models should be

T60/61/X200/X201 and whatever older models
>powergap
X220,T420
>powergap (actually not quite a power gap so much as a battery gap)
T440s,T540p and newer models.


*convertibles and W series are excluded for now

there are literally zero(0) reasons to recommend the XX30 series, the same way XX10 aren't recommended.

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>>59571257

>>59577161
Fow how long do you think t420's will be usable as every day drivers?
I am an owner of t420s so im legit wondering.

>>59576970
Which ones would you recommend? I have roughly 1500 to spend for a good laptop for programming work, but I'd also like to play games on it. Touch display is not needed, a good amount of ram would be nice for projects. Not new and graphically difficult games, but I'd not like to have an integrated gpu.

>>59577161
Why is the xx30 series hotter and louder than xx20 anyway? Shouldn't they be cooler, since Ivy Bridge is 22nm compared to Sandy Bridge which is 32nm?

>>59577203
It really depends on your personal daily driver needs.

It probably won't stop handling normal office stuff, normal websites and normal media playback anytime soon. Many years it should work.

Of course, it might break down - but that would likely be fixable. And maybe we'll get a new media format that won't work as nicely as desirable.

I still use an X60 as a daily driver and it works fine, and that is a 10 year old laptop. I do however need to compromise some: some really heavy 1080p files might not play, but 720p or even lower is ok anyway due to the screen. Sometimes I might encounter a bit of lag using some heavy website, but this isn't even common.

>>59577218
I typically don't like recommending computers I never tried. Newer computers can have the risk of having quality control issues.

We'd probably recommend a Lenovo P50, HP Z-Book or Dell's new Precision.
But the moment you said gaming, isn't even worth bothering because it's gonna end up as 'wow the mobile version of this GPU sucks!' or "I don't want a quadro or firepro gpu'

>>59577161
why in the mother of fuck you recommend the XX40 series?, dude..the ultranav is gone on these

the XX30 is just an step from the XX20, ivy bridge, which is smaller and cooler and the chiclets.

>>59577353
>ivy bridge, which is smaller and cooler

>>59577161
>>hotter and louder vs xx20

Who do I believe???

>>59577218
>I'd also like to play games on it
you should really get a xbox one for gaymen and leave the laptop for laptop stuff.

>>59577332
By gaming I mean that it will run games decent enough while plugged in on medium settings. By work I meant that the battery should run more than 4 hours. I don't care about gpus, as long as it isn't an integrated one. Also, weight is a non issue.

>>59577281
they aren't hes just full of shit

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Both CTRL keys on my X200 have suddenly stopped working. It doesn't even work when booting (ctrl alt del) and Ctrl+Alt+Fn doesn't fix it either.

Is there a solution to this or should I just get a new keyboard?

>>59577384
I will work abroad for 2 months and can't haul my desktop with me all the time.

>>59577161
>mentions bios flashing required programmer.
>shit keyboard
>cant use non genuine batteries

but then mentions the T440S and T540p and newer. and these also suffer from the same issues mentioned before. what gives?

>>59577434
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262909998573
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122383315237
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172592362817
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252774305219
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391737175883
>games decently
>doesn't tell me what kind of game they want to play specifically and on what settings, FPS expected and vsync bs on/off

Bro no more replies, stick to gaming on a desktop.

>>59577161
>recomends xx40 thinkpads over xx30
>recommends newer models, like the silver thinkpads, 11e, & chromebook 13
>ivy bridge thinkpads hotter and louder than sandy
Shit nigga, might as well get a trip.


>>59577521
Remove and reinstall the keyboard to see if it works.

replace keyboard is best solution
remove the keycaps and maybe the rubber domes are popped.

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>>59574464
I'd like to do it to my X230. Did you buy a kit or just cut some vinyl?

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>>59577481
>hes just full of shit
kek ok

>>59577661
>like the silver thinkpads, 11e, & chromebook 13
you're just overshitposting at this point, I mentioned two of the better ones off the top of my head, not this silver chromegook garbage.


>>59577547
>and these also suffer from the same issues mentioned before. what gives?

if people ask for a $400 thinkpad, are you going to recommend them two T420's duct taped together?

>>59577661
Okay. Specific games would be dota 2, csgo, euiv. Should run at 60fps and medium settings.

>>59577203
shit man there are brand new laptops being sold that are slower than the base i5 in a t420. it's gonna be a loong time until sandy core m can't stream an HD titty or show a spreadsheet

>>59577771
>it's gonna be a loong time until sandy core m can't stream an HD titty
this is true, but 4K titties are unplayable

>>59577736
n = 1

>>59577661
Also, more important than anything, how is the battery life when not gaming?

>>59577736
You could of skipped the T440s and T540p (which does come with shit 720p display standard and intel gfx) but you didn't. You literally recommended the clickpad thinkpads, which if i remember correctly, was heavily disliked by /g/, enthusiasts and consumers.

As far as the T430 is hotter than a T420
Never had an issue with my T430s (x

>>59577721
Any vinyl sticker is fine. Just cut and go then slice again while it is applied for better detail finish.

>>59577736
Did Lenovo just massively downgrade the cooling system in the Tx30 series or something? Because the T530 runs hotter than the T520 as well, yet Ivy Bridge is a smaller design on a newer process node (therefore should run cooler).

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>>59577353
>why in the mother of fuck you recommend the XX40 series?, dude..the ultranav is gone on these
you can swap it with one from xx50 series

Would /tpg/ recommend a p50 over a macbook? needing to get a new laptop and wondering if I should give lenovo a shot. until this point have used windows,

inb4 mac is shit....please just concise reasons why the p50 would be superior.

Mainly looking for someone who maybe has one or both and can vouch for either

plan on it being portable, but connected to an external monitor while I'm home

>>59577856
but the laptop also doesn't have a 4k screen (you could connect to an external one, sure)

kind of a niche use really anyway, most media won't be anywhere near 4k anytime soon

>>59577946
>was heavily disliked by /g/, enthusiasts and consumers.
but what's stopping you from recommending better newer models instead of those two i mentioned? I was just making a point for the xx20 series.

>>59578005
>Because the T530 runs hotter than the T520 as well
no shit, go figure

>>59573041
But still its not ips isn't it? Think I should just wait for old panel laptop to drop their price.

>>59578181
>htop
everytime

Which one are those?
>>59578181

>>59577736
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-HD-4000-Mobile-125-GHz-vs-Intel-HD-3000-Mobile-V1-1112-GHz/m7653vsm7646
Id rather a slightly hotter running laptop with a much better iGPU. As for the keyboard i run the x220 one in my x230 anyway.

>>59578140
>needing to get a new laptop
What for?
If you want gaymen get a P50, otherwise if you're a fag and you like a locked down gimped OS get a macbook.

>>59577054
i prefer it

I want another tablet like my x201t. But I want it to not have a shit screen, shit battery life, and be weak as fuck.
What should I upgrade to?

>>59578338
Damn I can't wait to flash coreboot and upgrade to an ivb chip. That gpu performance difference is staggering

>>59577736
>left has iGPU
>right has a FUCKING 35W dGPU
You are a fucking retard

>>59578338
>Id rather a slightly hotter running laptop with a much better iGPU
>As for the keyboard i run the x220 one in my x230 anyway.
thats 2/4, you still
can't flash an unlocked bios
and\or use a chink battery out of the box.

^you should mention all these things whenever you recommend a xx30 over a xx20, just so people are aware of the pros and cons. just saying.

dont know why I mentioned "pros" because 9 times out of 10 people dont care about gaming on these thinkpads.

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>>59577736
>>59578424

>>59578477
with the ec flash the only disadvantage you really have is the locked down bios and a slightly warmer running laptop....
That being said you have MUCH better GPU performance
To me thats worth it.

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So, I tried making the blue ThinkVantage button usefull by adding this "8001" folder with "file" key to register but it doesn't work. How do map it? It's x201 with running win7pro.

>>59578506
is that a misprint?
>100 degrees Celsius
>212 degrees Fahrenheit

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>>59578506

>>59578140
Well the macbook has much more better battery life, a smaller size, a glossy 16:10 12" screen, one USB port, but has Core-M processors.

P50 is bigger, heavier, less battery life but will most likely have better processing and graphics.

However! The part where people essentially say 'mac is better' is because most industry standards use mac for Pro Tools, Logic Pro, & Photoshop.
There are some who use Windows variants of photoshop, Sony vegas, and other shit but you have the 'industry elitist' when it comes to firms preferring someone with mac equipment.

>>59578214
This is /tpg/ no one wants newer ThinkPads when they could get a T430 or W520 for a third of the cost.

>>59578602
iGPU vs dGPU
This is a terrible comparison as the computer will have a higher heat use with the dGPU configuration
Did they specify exactly that they had the dGPU off?

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>>59578602
There is just one fan for both chips. The chips are positioned very close to each other.

Here's my T430 with only the CPU at full load.

>>59578579
Nope. Shuts off at 105 C.

>>59578637
>This is /tpg/ no one wants newer ThinkPads
>aka I cant recommend shit
k

I have a mint condition T530 with the wide gamut 1080p display. Would it be worth sourcing a cheap W530 motherboard with the k2000m to swap in? Or should I just sell the T530 and buy a W530.

I've been in the market for a ThinkPad for a while now and I might finally purchase one today. Here are my options, if I could get some (objective) feedback on my choices that'd be nice. Go into this knowing that I've used ThinkPads before but never owned one, so the keyboard styles & the touchpad vs.physical TrackPoint buttons argument applies a lot less for me, as I would be okay with either. Anyways here's my choices-

T410 ThinkPad #1:
$185.00 (Money back guarantee, manufacturer refurbished)
i5 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVDRW
T410 ThinkPad #2:
$150 (No guarantee, Craigslist listing looks mildly sketchy)
i5 2.67GHz, 8GB RAM, 275GB HD (I assume it's an SSD? Listing doesn't specify), also pictures don't show a charger or an OEM Windows disc.
This one seems shady, maybe stolen. emailed the guy for more info.
X230 ThinkPad:
$280 (possibly negotiable)
IPS Screen, i5 2.6GHz, 256GB SSD, 8 GB RAM
This listing is weird, it says "Windows 7 Professional Factory Restored" yet all the pictures show Windows 10. Maybe just a typo? Should I be worried? Aside from that, I'm really leaning towards this one.
T440 ThinkPad Touch:
$299
i5-4300U 2.9GHz, 8GB RAM, 180GB SSD
I don't give a shit about touchscreens, but this one seems like a solid choice, also out of all the craigslist ones this seems the most legit, comes with everything, great pictures. The price is a little bit too high, maybe I could get some money knocked off.

Anyways, sorry for the long post. I'd love to get some feedback, I've actually never owned a laptop so this is a first for me.

>>59578506
> T420 FAGS BTFO
>>59578673
>Here's my T430 with only the CPU at full load.

like I said, the temp is one of four problems of the xx30 (vs xx20) which potential xx30 buyers should be acquainted with before officially recommending a xx30 in the OP.

also you probably think 88c is normal but it's quite high desu senpai

>>59578726
Update- I called the guy with the X230 and told me that the pictures show Windows 10 because he just pulled them from google imaged. Then he flat out refused to take a picture of the actual laptop for me stating he didn't have time, then said "ugh fine I'll do it later tonight". So I'm scratching that one off, even if it's legit the guy was a fucking dipshit asshole.

>>59578726
I would go for a t420 or t420s if possible, x230 and t430 are okay if you dont mind the chicklet keyboard, t440 is a no due to lack of buttons on the touchpad, t410 is kinda okay i guess, but would go for t420 over t410 if possible.

>>59578833
Call the T440 guy and ask if he wants $250 and a handie

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>>59578684
(x

>>59578695
I would try to get a broken screen W530 then panelswap it, or go the eGPU route.

>>59578726
Where are you getting manufacturer refurbished on the T410?
Is it a used T410 that was refurbished? No difference than getting a used T410.

This 'manufacturer refurbished' must be a never used device, unless its basically a used laptop.

>>59578875
this

>>59578808
my t430s is 49 to 51c right now with 25 chrome tabs and some music playing.
Granted I am running LXLE, iGPU and I did repaste the CPU with AS5 when I did the IPS 1080p mod.

>>59578808
But 88 is way closer to 85 than 100 is. The difference is so small it comes down to the thermal paste, ambient temperature and the amount of dust on the fan.

They both have 35W TDP CPUs. The coolers are pretty much identical and the cases are almost identical as well. I refuse to believe that the difference in temperature between two similarly specced xx20 and xx30 models can be that substantial.

>>59578917
>Where are you getting manufacturer refurbished on the T410?
eBay listing. Listing also says hundreds of them have sold and the seller has a crazy good seller rating so even if the "Manufacturer refurbished part" is bullshit I still trust the listing to work and not be stolen.
>>59578850
I'll keep an eye out, haven't really seen many t420 listed. Again, don't care really about the keyboard.
>>59578875
Texting him now, I'll see if he can do like $275 and a rimjob.

Does anyone know where i can pick a 9 cell battery for my t420 that isnt 70 buckaroos

>>59578196
also important to consider that even when 4k content is all over the place, 1080p and lower will still be very common for the sake of showing ads to the poor sod stuck on their acer 768p celeron craptop. when the only way of making money off the web is dumping ads on the lowest common denominator, and the lowest common denominators' laptop is a fucking chink dorito, our fancy thinkpad-branded chink doritos are 100% still in the game

>>59578917
Hey xsauc! What are your thoughts on Dell Latitude E7450?

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>>59578994
>I refuse to believe that the difference in temperature between two similarly specced xx20 and xx30 models can be that substantial.

and I refuse to believe I don't have a 12 inch penis

>>59571257
Why is the TP logo upside down on the ones underneath?

t420 has a chime on it when you turn it off and on (the bios speaker)
I'd like to know how to order one to use it in my electronic projects
pls halp

>>59579092
>NVS 4200m
>25W TDP

>NVS 5400M
>35W TDP

>2410M vs 3520M

There's no comparison. Keep trying though.

>>59578726
Another update to this- I just found a listing for-
E220s ThinkPad Edge for $250 (12 in. display, i5 processor, fingerprint meme reader, no optical drive, asking for more info). There doesn't seem to be any info in the ThinkPad buyers guide about the E Series, though Wikipedia states "Reviews of the latest E220s and E420s have been more positive, citing better build quality than other models in the Edge line." Thoughts on the E Series? 12 inch screen seems quite small, though I have a dinky-ass Chromebook I use from time to time and I guess I'm alright with it.

>>59579259

see

>>59578808
>the temp is one of four problems of the xx30 (vs xx20) which potential xx30 buyers should be acquainted with before officially recommending a xx30 in the OP.

>>59579331
Oh fine. I still think the performance advantage makes the xx30 worth it despite the other disadvantages. Especially since you can now use non-genuine batteries with a simple EC patch, no HW flashing required).
Also I like the newer keyboard more.

>>59575187
Go for it! I hope you have a 2GB DDR2 kit though. I can do 360p youtube, or 720p youtube through mpv, and play GTA san andreas on my T43, but I do have 2GB RAM and the ATI X300 GPU. In any case $10 is nothing, and it's really nice to experience pre-Lenovo Thinkpad quality.

>>59579402
> I still think the performance advantage makes the xx30 worth it
*graphic performance, yes.

and i say that's a lot of hoops to jump through if you want a good under $200 laptop, and you still get the locked down bios.

idk, if you guys think
>"buy X so you can almost hack it into a Y"
is a better recommendation instead of
>"buy Y"

then, whatever, whatever floats your boat.

>>59570899
is there a quadcore thinkpad?

>>59579662
Nope. No such thing. Only single cores and occasionally lenovo releases a dual core model. They also only come with 512mb of ram, although I hear rumors they're releasing a 2GB RAM model of thinkpad in 2019.

>>59579683
OK, that makes it easier to buy the XPS 15 then

the XPS 15 has a quadcore processor, infinite storage, a better screen, and a cup holder

Has anyone here tried to extend the LCD cable of their t420/t430? If so, does anyone have an example of a cable that is being sold that is already extended?

>>59579662
Not now. Older Ws were quad cores.

>>59579775
The new T4xx have a quad core option.

>>59579747
>and a cup holder
which you should use it as a toilet paper holder, Pajeet.

I love me a chiclet keyboard. I just looks more modern.

everything is relative. its all about perception

my last laptop was a dv6000. lasted 4 years.

coming from that piece of shit, the t430 is much better from every angle

also, /g is a bunch of nigger bitches and newfags. at least all the my little pony shit is gone. congrats

>>59579822
Oh, cool, didn't know that.

>>59579898
>at least all the my little pony shit is gone
and yet nothing improved

stickers on my clean x200 lid, y/n? i can't stand the texture of the lid, but it looks so clean. i'm not gonna do reddit tier stickers or ironic anime garbage, so it shouldn't be that bad right?

>>59580095
Fag

>>59579084
It looks like an improved version of the E7440, which I've had two i7 16GB RAM models of, which i've liked quite a bit.

The E7450 looks like a haswell version of the E7440, has a darker aluminum finish and looks like they might of tidied up a few parts of the keyboard.

Looks good, be sure to get the FHD model (you can upgrade to 1080p w/o needing to buy a cable), these have soldiered on CPUs, but have RAM removable as well as mSATA and 7mm SATA ports.

Sold both E7440s for $400 and $320, paid $260 and $350.

They are built fairly firm for an ultrabook, recommended.

>>59579683
Confirmed at CES 2017

>>59579189

anyone???

Hey guys, /pol/ here. I need a laptop for work and I hear thinkpads are godly. I'm also tempted to get a 2 in 1 and the thinkpad line seems to have a productivity-oriented Yoga. Would this be a good laptop to get? Is there a better traditional thinkpad you would recommend for work?

>>59581132
what work?

>>59581167
I do a lot of massive spreadsheets (we're talking excel documents of over 50mb) as I'm a scientific analyst in pharma. I find that my old laptop lags a lot when I open them even though I keep it really clean.
I don't do any video editing or things like that, but I'd also like to keep lots of documents and tabs open because I often have to so I'd still like a machine with good specs, HDD and definitely a good battery life. Naturally a great keyboard for lots of typing too.
Sorry I didn't mention this previously.

can I put a GTX 1050 ti into a thinkpad

>>59575936
lol get a load of this guy

posted from my ifone wit tappytalk

>>59581216
so maybe one with an i7
i would get 16 GB of ram, 8 is not enough for me reight now

>>59581230
>into
No.

You can connect one up as an eGPU on a dock though.

>>59581216
I'm not sure exactly how much performance you need, but you might struggle to find anything in a 2 in 1 form factor that's both cheap and powerful. You could look at X220 or X230 Tablet models for well built, more traditional thinkpads. There is of course shit like the X1 Yoga but shit's expensive and don't expect amazing build quality.

Maybe also look at the W520 and W530 for comfy workstations with powerful CPUs, they just won't be small or light.

If it doesn't have the IBM logo on it, I don't want it.

>>59580300
what the fuck

>>59581357

>You can connect one up as an eGPU on a dock though

explain that like I'm 5

I'm mobile and in the market for a new gaming laptop.

>>59581312
This is precisely what I was thinking. I feel like RAM and CPU are the things I'm willing to invest in even though I usually hate expensive laptops.
This is also why I was considering a surface book in spite of the insane price tag. Still don't understand how people buy Macbooks tbqh.
>>59581357
I'll take a look at these models too. I really am starting to suspect that 2 in 1 being good is a pipedream unless you shell out insane dollarydoos.

>>59581370
You get something like this
http://www.gearbest.com/laptop-accessories/pp_229102.html?wid=21
Which allows you to connect your GPU to your laptop through the expresscard, mpcie, or m.2 slot (which are all PCIe slots) and then either display to an external monitor through the GPU or to your laptop screen (this runs shitter)

If you actually want a gaming laptop you won't have much luck looking at thinkpads.

>>59581360
The truth! *hands up emoji*

>>59581370
>gaming
>thinkpad
please do not come to these threads
You can get an quadcore i7, 16GB RAM, whocares SSD/HDD, and GTX 1080 laptop for under $1500 if you look it up on ebay/amazon/newegg etc

>>59581391
Best buy had some Lenovo Yoga 710 laptop for like $550 because it was a floor model

>>59581426

*sigh* So I have to shell out a G.

Back to saving up at work again.

>>59581391
i just stick with T420 until something as good comes out
all laptops nowadays are pussybitch

>>59581438
Why do people want to game on these laptops? Get a shitty high end laptop to play your shitty games or something.

>>59581438

Kind of wanted to see if I didn't have to spend a G and a half on a laptop for games

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This is becoming ridiculous. Which one should I part ways with.

>>59581497
The last two on the right. IBM for life.

>>59581463
>Why do people want to game on these laptops?
Thinkpads are cheap, and disposable income hardly goes hand in hand with having the time to keep up with the latest gayming trends.

>>59581497

What the fuck comrade

>>59581463
I mean, why not
My T430s plays League of Legends on Intel graphics

>>59581497
Why get rid of one anon, you are barely starting

>>59581442
What game do you want to play?
What is your budget?
Do you care for styling?
What size or form factor do you want?

Honestly going from my desktop to laptop is night and day.
buying a used gaming laptop is a fucking risk when it comes to getting them 'as a deal'.

Check out Dell Precisions, most of them will let you swap in an Alienware GPU if you think the Quadrom 2000m is shit.

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>>59579189

>>1150915
this is what i just did from advice on irc
it got me this:
1200hz, set to square wave:
http://onlinetonegenerator.com/

it sounds exactly like a Thinkpad now :)

I know this thread is for thinkpads, but what is the highest price I should pay for a Panasonic Toughbook 19? I plan on upgrading the RAM to 12GB regardless, as I already have an 8GB DIMM.

>>59581810

>What game do you want to play?

GTA5 on Ultra (GTX 1050 ti minimum)

>What is your budget?

I make ~2k a month

>Do you care for styling?

No.

>What size or form factor do you want?

I'm getting a Laptop. A desktop is gonna collect dust at my house due to me never being home long enough to bask in it's glory

>>59582602
>GTA5 on Ultra (GTX 1050 ti minimum)
>on a laptop
Honestly, get one of the Expresscard to PCI-E adapters in >>59581426 and get a 1050 ti. Get an X230, 8GB of RAM for it and enjoy gaming at 1366x768p60 on Medium, 30 on ultra if you are lucky.

>>59582644
forgot to add.
MAKE SURE YOU GET ONE WITH AN i7-3520M. DO NOT GET AN i5, IT WILL NOT PLAY LIKE THE i7 VERSION.

>>59582659 >>59582644

Christ these things are cumbersome bricks...

I take back my "no" for styling.

*sigh* I'll just buy an Asus rog thing....

At least I don't have to have dangly bits just to play a game...

Thanks for the tips guys.

>>59582682
>Goes on /tpg/ for laptop advice
>Gets an answer "Thinkpad"
>"Christ these things are cumbersome bricks"
Where do you think you are?
And we're saving you dosh on both laptop repairs and general cost.

>>59582699

That was an over reaction. they're all cumbersome bricks.

Is there a pad that has 4gb of VRAM inside of it

Is there a pad that has 2gb of VRAM inside of it.

Kind of don't want to have to buy an expresscard and extra shit. Makes me feel like I'm going far for a necessity.

My current laptop wishes it could boot GTA5

>>59582726
Best route to get the most for your money is the expresscard route. W541 + EC PCI-E + 1050 ti is the best route, if you're willing to spend the ~$800.

>>59579428
Does it have two ram slots? In that case i can get another 1gb stick for cheap at a local store.

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Al right /g/, which one should I choose?

T430 (refurbished):
- Intel Core i5-3320
- 320 gb HDD
- USB 2.0, USB 3.0, Gigabit ethernet
- 1600 x 900 (unclear of IPS or TN)
- 2 year warrenty
- 530 euros

T420 (refurbished):
- Intel Core i5-2520
- 320 gb HDD
- esata, USB 2.0 (no USB 3.0)
- 1600 x 900 (unclear of IPS or TN)
- 2 year warrenty
- 470 euros

>>59584368
They are TN.

>>59584443

So, good deal or no?

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Is the x230 keyboard that bad compared to the x220?

>>59584368
Personally I cant deal with the abyssmal contrast ratio and viewing angles of the t430/t420 screens. Unless you are planning on updating to that alienware hd+ panel (with much better contrast and viewing angles) I'd keep away. The T530 and T520 came with much better screens even at the same resolution. So go for either of those or maybe even an x220 or x230.

>>59584480
its actually pretty good to type on its just that the layout is retarded

>>59584601
>Unless you are planning on updating to that alienware hd+ panel (with much better contrast and viewing angles) I'd keep away. The T530 and T520 came with much better screens even at the same resolution.

Well, the specs list that they do have HD+ screens. Would these automatically be the Alienware-type that you speak of?

>>59584629
NO lenovo insisted on putting the shittest possible 14" panels available on the market in the t420/t430. The HD+ moniker refers to the 1600x900 resolution of the panel

Ayone tried putting 16GN RAM into a T420?

>>59582726
>Is there a pad that has 4gb of VRAM inside of it
Yes.
>Is there a pad that has 2gb of VRAM inside of it.
Yes.

You're looking at the W and P series there. You can get higher-end Quadro GPUs in those.

>>59584668
Sorry, long night!
Anyone tried putting 16GB RAM into a T420?

>>59584684
should work fine

>>59584656

OK, thank you anon.
Will go for the t520 then, can I can buy a T520 FHD for 400 euros with 3 months warranty.

>>59584706
if the t520 is coming with the factory 1080p display (i.e not some cheap aftermarket compatible model) IMO its one of the best TN panels i've seen. You'll definitely be pleased leaps and bounds better than the trash you find in the T4XX

>>59584368
420 blze it nigga

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>>59584610
That's what I mean. Is the layout that bad?

i just bought a T60 for 20$
what to do with it?

>>59585084
It's a computer.
Do computer things with it.

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T520 with FHD panel or with HD+?

I've heard FHD is basically cancer with Windows 7 because of the scaling. W10 shouldn't have this problem, but I don't want to be part of the botnet. What do /g/

Price difference is about 70 euros (75 USD).

How much is a X230 worth with 8GB Ram and 128GB SSD and a i5 3320M?

I bought this two days ago. I won the auction!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thinkpad-X60-Tablet-1400x1050-Libreboot-/282399820933?nma=true&si=8JrPfxddjiCrGxhtS44u57nZYqM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

>>59585354
I rather mean how much should pay max for it in euros.

>>59582816
oooo i don't think it's a good idea recommending any egpu setup to a dude who wants ~*MAXXED OUT GAMING*~ on a laptop. The problem being solved by an egpu is:
>need a game to run on this old-ass laptop, that an hd 3000 would otherwise laugh and spit on
>medium quality is ok
>30 frames is ok
>friend gave me his old 950
>i don't want to spend more than $100 on this dumb project

not:
>yeahh duude this thinkpad gonna take a dump on your fucken alienware maaan [BONG NOISES]

like, i got overwatch running 60 fps on medium on my x220 with the $50 adapter, $10 power brick, and a 750ti i already had in the parts drawer. stock new vegas on ultra runs [a shitload of fps] not bad for a 6 year old laptop that was never really meant to play games in the first place. gotta temper expectations and understand that mobile computing is an exercise in managing compromises.

p.s. 1050ti and other 10-series are NOT the cards to use. recent drivers are fucky

>>59585048
The main things you'll notice using are that the home/end keys get put in the top row, page up/down to the left and right of the up arrow key (replacing the back/forward keys) and the fn media shortcuts get moved from the arrow keys to the F# keys.

For me it's just harder to use the home and end keys without looking, but otherwise I don't mind the changes. A lot of it can just be set to key combinations easily enough anyway.

Where's the best place to buy new batteries from? Recently got a r400, and the current battery life is about 45mins.

>>59585249
1080p on a 15inch screen is fine with no scaling. Go with the higher resolution.

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This is the only thing still keeping me from buying a Thinkpad. Am I autistic?
I know you can swap them digitally (in the BIOS), but it's still triggering me.

>>59585570
You'll get used to it. If you think about it, this layout makes more sense.

>>59585589
>this layout makes more sense.

What did you mean by this?

>>59585601
It's easier to use the function keys without looking at the keyboard this way. It just feels more natural after a while, I guess.

>>59585601
I don't have a ThinkPad but I guess it's because you can reach the Ctrl key with your pinky finger easier.

>>59585601
>>59585625
>>59585632
It's also symmetrical. All other keyboards are wrong.

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>>59585544
>1080p on a 15inch screen is fine with no scaling. Go with the higher resolution.
Al right, placed my order.

How did I do /g/entlemen?

T520
>FHD
>2nd gen i5
>8GB DDR3
>250 SSD WD Blue

This gon be comfy.
Only thing is that I paid 550 euros for this, which is quite expensive, but since I have the money it's no biggie.

>>59585668
You bought a 15 inch laptop. You should feel bad.

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>>59585690
>he buys laptops with a smaller screen than 15"

Might as well use a phone at this point, lol.

T520>T420

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Long shot. Bit I'm gutting out a broken laptop. Would this ram work on a t400?

>>59585668
>550 euros

It's like money is worthless here. Everything is so fucking expensive compared to US.

>>59585746
>he buys laptops with a bigger screen than 12"

Might as well visit a shrink to cure his homosexuality.

>>59585668
550€? What the actual fuck. A grade A machine with that configuration shouldn't cost more than 300€. Having the money is no justification for being stupid.

>>59585570
You use the Fn combinations so much that this is infinitely superior. I didn't have any problems when I first used a ThinkPad. Not even once.

>>59581497
None. It doesn't cost you anything just to store them, does it? If you get rid of one you're going to regret it sooner or later.

>>59585570
I feel you anon. Ctrl+Shift+C/V is a pain in the ass and I can't think of a better alternative.

How far can I upgrade my newly purchased X60t SXGA+? It has 2GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD already in it,

>>59581438
>>gaming
>>thinkpad
but gaming on a thinkpad is OK to some extent. my whole GOG library runs perfectly well on my X230. there were a lot of great games around 10 or more years ago and playing them today
is as valid as playing new AAA titles

>>59585836
Not to mention that ThinkPads have excellent eGPU compatibility.

>>59585643
symmetry is outdated

>>59585756
>>59585783

For comparison: the new Carbon X1 costs 1600 euros here. For that money you don't even get an SSD, but 320 HDD.

>>59585883
What does one have to do with the other? Yes, they are more expensive in Europe but when I said that it shouldn't cost more than 300€ I was already referring to European prices.

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>>59585883
you gotta find a student to buy it for you

>>59585751

Please respond. ;_;

>>59585751
Yes

>>59585751
Yes, but why ask when you could just try it?

>>59585908

What I meant is that laptops are very expensive here anyway, might've well just shell out a bit extra if it comes with 12 months of warranty and is from a reputable webshop.

I've looked around for the same configuration on refurbished websites, but prices are basically the same with a margin of maybe 50 euros (including the 240 GB SSD and a FHD screen).

I plan to use this laptop intensively for 2-5 years, I don't think that 200 euros is that much of a difference if it isn't kaput within 2 years.

>>59586005
>be in central europe
>t420s - 110 eur
>touchpad sticker was worn - 1 eur
>fhd upgrade kit - 50 eur
>fhd ips screen - 50 eur
>sell old lcd + 30 eur
>buy new battery (noname) - 30 eur

>211 eur - 14", fhd, full battery, 2540M, 8G ram.
>will see if it breaks within 2 years.

>>59586296
forgot:
already had ssd, but it would've costed ~83 eur
still below 300 eur.

Which one should I choose /g/?

X1 Carbon 14 2nd hand:
>Intel DualCore i5-3427U 1,8 GHz - Turbo Boost 2,8 GHz
>8 GB RAM
>SSD 180GB
>Intel HD Graphics 4000
>1600x900
>Windows 10 Pro
>12 months warranty
>"Near-mint, only light use visible"
>500 euros

T520 2nd hand:
>2nd gen i5 2.5GHz
>8 GB RAM
>SSD 250GB
>Intel HD Graphics 3000
>1600x900
>Windows 7 Pro
>12 months warranty
>"Excellent state, used in business"
>470 euros

>>59586833
only one of those is portable enough

>>59586833
Pick the form factor that suits how you'll be using it.

Quick, /g/!
Which 14" Thinkpad comes with the best display?

>>59570899
anyone else buy from ibm's employee purchasing program? these prices are really good but are they refurbished well?

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>FN key outside of CTRL

What the fuck were they thinking?

>>59586922
T420s+this: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=122224&start=150
(when it's not out of stock like now)

best LCD in history is T60's 1600x1200 Flexview 15" 4:3

I made the mistake of getting a x230 with the TN screen. There is literally about a 5 degree viewing angle that sort of works. Everything outside of that angle and half the screen disappears. How hard is it to replace with an ips?

>>59587184
you'll have to get out like 6 screws maximum

also, google: x230 hmm pdf

https://thinkpads.com/support/hmm/hmm_pdf/x230_x230i_hmm_en_0b48666_01.pdf

these help you a lot.

>>59587184
or alternatively,
youtube: thinkpad x230 screen replace

take photos every once in a while when disassembling if you're really paranoid

>>59587021
you can switch the functions in the bios
still the labels obviously stay the same

>>59587184
Is it really that bad? I saw a T420 with a TN display and it seemed okay.

>>59587308
It depends on your level of tolerance too. But if you keep thinking about it, it hurts more. If you're doing anything with colour, it's a good idea to compare it with another display because it's blue as all fuck

Half tempted to buy a 2760QM for my T420
Any warnings I should have about thermal throttling?

The battery of my T430s keeps leaking while turned off, seems to happen both on win10 and linux. Around 10% over night, doesn't happen when the battery is disconnected.
Wake-on-lan is turned off through bios.
What should I do?

The link up in OP has an X1 Yoga for $1k. I want it because I want an i7 lappy with a touchscreen and pen. Is this a good idea or no? Pls respond. Also will I get trouble for using a promo code for employees of some company I don't work for?

How much should I pay max for a X230 with 8GB Ram, 128GB SSD and a i5 3320M in Euros?

>>59588470
250 max

>>59588528
And with IPS?

>>59588410
Pls respond /g/. I am completely uninitiated in laptops and I need your wisdom.

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Just whacked some new memory into this R400, so have 8GB now.

Any recommendations on what distro to go for?

>>59587021
I got used to fn on the left, so now when I'm on a normal keyboard I keep opening the menu.

>>59587021
Honestly it's much better that way for things like ThinkLight (your thought becomes to aim at top right and bottom left)
I got immediately used to it and you should to

>>59588704
Depends on what you're doing with your machine.
For work I'd go with either Ubuntu or Fedora, if it's too heavy then switch to Xfce spinoff.
This is for me thought if your work involves editing text only then you can get away with any distro really.
If it's for desktop thread shitposting and messing around with I'd put Arch/Gentoo/Free or OpenBSD on it.

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>>59588700
>/g/
>wisdom

>>59570899
Are they any ways to clean the tp matte finish that actually work?

Just bought a X230 with 128GB SSD and 8GB RAM for 223€ inclusive Shipping.

>>59588704

Get a X9100 cpu from aliexpress or ebay, you can often get one for 10$US.

Exvellent upgrade.

Distro: Plain old X54 Ubuntu 16.04.2

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>>59585249
I personally didn't have scaling on 1080p, that has happened on the 4K X1C3 I had for a few months...

>>59585570
>tfw thinkpads was my first laptop and I'm fine with this layout

>>59585632
>I don't have a ThinkPad

>>59585751
More than fine, I think PC3-12800s should work.
It'll downclock if anything but you'll get 8GB.

>>59585836
What games do you play and on what settings?
I don't play much games, Overwatch being the most intensive game I've played yet, but I haven't even wanted to try it on a TP

>>59585828
4GB RAM is the considerate max you can put on there, 8GB may be too costly.
You might benefit on video playback if you get a CrystalHD card, BCM970015. Dunno if it works on a X60t

Or you could always do a X61t base swap, middleton bios, swap out the hot wifi card.

>>59586922
I haven't kept up with 14" displays.
B140HAN01.3 from a Dell E7440 is rocking on my T430, otherwise M14x display swap.
The panel on the left is by Chimei, forget which one it was specifically but it was started to be used on some 1080p laptops

X230 is one awesome machine. the new 2017 one with the silver finish?? its like the Ugly Duckling!!! rofl..

>>59571609
Thd funny thing is that they didnt copy the little details that makes the macbook desirable.

>>59588704
Go for the Ubuntu 16.04LTS. its long term support.. and good for home use. Compatible with almost any other OSs out there, and it feels great to use. By the way the core 2 duo is sort of a bit slow. I hope there's a bit of a save up for at least an i5 or i7 which is the latest. 2 or 2.x ghz is alright. RAM 8gb does wonders.

>>59588704
None. Throw that garbage into the trash.

>>59577721
Keep this.. its upgradable ram to 16g, processing power is good. its also ssd. change to a linux distro and you'll notice the difference yourself. it's a perfect machine for pen testing.

What's the deal with OPAL drives? Recently brought a T430 with a Seagate OPAL "self encrypting" hard drive. How do these work? Is this a way to have OS agnostic encryption?

I don't see any BIOS option about encryption & I can still mount and access the drive from a live USB... How do I turn on the OPAL encryption?

>>59584368
T420 : thats expensive for refurb!

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upgraded my t500's cpu(from p8600 to t9600), not huge upgrade but the cpu itself was cheap so whatever.

Just got a used L520 with an i5 2520 and 8gigs of RAM for 190USD.
Sure it`s not /g/ approved, but I`m pretty happy with my purchase.

>>59591334
190?! thats dirt cheap and a good a$$ machine.

>>59570899
Hate to be this guy, but I read the guide and couldn't find anything mentioning Windows XP.
I'm considering buying a ThinkPad purely for shitposting on 4chan and accessing email. I just wanna be comfy with Windows XP again.
What models should I look out for and what should I expect to pay? Would definitely prefer an IBM over a Lenovo. Not completely against a compact model.

>>59590803
>4GB RAM is considerated max
>X60T

i have a x60t and it cant go more than 3GB., and pretty sure its a chipset limitation (and no you cannot use PAE)

>>59591806
http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/ibm-thinkpad-t43-review-pics-specs/ Im not sure you want to see this :D

>>59591054
Anyone?

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>>59592052
Shoot, I forgot about the chipset limitation on T60/X60 laptops.

Well it'll show 4GB on bios so yeah (;

>>59591806
I have Windows XP Black Edition on my A31p, though I don't recommend it.
T4x may suit you, or R5x, just be sure to get one with WiFi already installed.
If you want to be old school, a 4:3 T60p would be good.

i hope this has answers some part of it... http://forums.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/An-Overview-and-Setup-of-Hardware-Encryption-on-Crucial-SEDs/ta-p/145520

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>>59570899
quick question: this is not an IPS screen, is it?
>type number 4290-w27

>>59585751

Follow up post from before, stuck them in and it worked like a charm! Thanks to everyone who replied.

Also, forgot I had stuck an SSD in that laptop, so that's now in my R400 as well.

So, with those two massive upgrades, I'm also planning to get a new CPU in here, a it's only going to cost £5 for the pleasure and a bit of waiting for it to arrive from China.

It needs a new nipple, and the windows key is missing, but as I'm running xubuntu on it, that's right at the bottom of my list of priorities.

Oh, and a new battery, hopefully a 9 cell, but will settle for a new 6 cell over the used 3cell shit it currently has. But, overall... very happy indeed with my new baby.

Is it true that the dGPU cooler for the T520 has a larger fan than the iGPU one?

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>>59592490
I think it is impossible to tell.
Notebook check reviewed an IPS X220
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-IPS-Subnotebook.55639.0.html
Looking at the photos we see the MTM
But there is no distinguishing characters that makes it IPS in the MTM lookup
http://tp.krelay.de/index.php?type=4290-W1B
Good luck anon

>>59593253
Looking at some photos on eBay, it is very hard to tell
>once we got a T510i model thinkpad and they had the rear fan exhaust blocked off with some plastic because it came with an i3

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So yesterday I received an old thinkpad R40 from a friend's dad who set a system password and fucking bricked the whole system. Is there any way I can get this shit off to make it usable and not toss it?

>>59593402
Huge thanks. So, umm, tp.krelay.de should not always be regarded as a source of absolute truth?

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>>59570899

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>>59593531
Sorry, I didn't mean it as that.
tp.krelay is a very good place to start off for MTM research.
I've used it to source UXGA T60's and T4x machines. Basically the site is a backup of IBM/Lenovo MTM lookup, so really it isn't their fault, just IBM or Lenovo didn't put notes that it should of.

Another thing to do is checking the Hardware Maintenance Manual (HMM for short) or the TAbook/PSREF (product specifications reference), they have MTM configurations and will be a more of a helpful use.
>https://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/psref415WE.pdf
It doesn't have the one you are looking for in particular, but it does have some MTMs with displays that are 'premium', which I presume are IPS.

best of luck!

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>>59578181
fug

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>>59578726
UPDATE- guy from yesterday here. Ended up going with the T440 ThinkPad Touch, posting from it now. Pic related. Just finished cleaning up Windoze, installing Visual Studio so I can become a coffee shop programmer edgelord.

>>59595119
>le epic hating new thinkpads maymay xD

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>>59595119
So did the seller get a handy or what? (;

The touchpad can be swapped for $30.
It is fairly easy, though removing the keyboard got a little bit harder, don't forget the fingerprint reader ribbon cable when removing the palmrest.

If this is your first ThinkPad, enjoy it very well.
Literally it doesn't matter what people say about the keyboard or build quality. I am sure you will like it alot unless you were a MBP fagboy.

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Guys.
Guys.
GUYS.

I fucked up.

>Your usb port had a power surge
>wut.png
>check usb device

Usb port prongs were sticking out of my usb stick. I'm posting this on the very same thinkpad and most stuff appears to be fine.

HOW MUCH did I fuck up? Is my device a fire hazard now?

>>59593883
>just IBM or Lenovo didn't put notes that it should of
Mkay, now that explains it.

Speaking of what krelay "knows" and what it doesn't - what eras does it cover?
I think I once tried to look up a T440p and got nothing.

couple of days some anon mentioned to get a 135w ac adapter for my t430

mah nigga, just hit 100c with 30 min of mass effect 2, 30 mins of occt at 101c restarted both times, 5400m is still present. going on two days now, got my fucking fingers crossed.

>>59595775
How did you manage to do that in the first place?
And what thinkpad is that?

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>>59595775

>>59575330
what is a smartphone

>>59595817
x220

The usb stick was in the machine when the machine got roughed into a wall nook by my dog jumping on my bed. It was a really poor series of events. I've taped over the opening to keep shit from getting into the computer, though I'm unsure if thats even necessary.

>>59595836
So it is a fire hazard now?

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>got this x220i for free today
>just installed debian 8 xfce
>no idea what to do with it

what do you think lads? not usually a fan of stickers but theres a couple cool ones on there in my opinion

>>59595932
step one - remove those fucking stickers

>>59595920
Can't you just replace the port?

>>59595920
brah, make sure that none of those pins are touching each other. think about it, you have a +5v running wild in there, guess what could happen.

get some tweezers and break those pins off completely

I think I want a t430 unless someone talks me out of it, any recommendations on where get one in good shape?

>>59595775
Turn the thing off, remove the main battery, get some tweezers and remove the remaining pins. As long as the pins are not contacting metal, you can use the laptop.

Not sure what laptop you have, but some of these USB ports are daughter boards that can be replaced.

>>59595780
I think they cover most T20 to T431s models.
It was a backup before lenovo changed their MTMs layout and removed the previous system that was in place. Because the characters aren't in the 7 alphanumerical format anymore xxxx-xxx after 2013, but now a 10 character one which is kinda tough to read.

>>59595816
Why do you need a 135W adapter? They should only need 90W, I don't know anything about this.

If anything I would raise the bottom of the laptop or use one of those laptop base coolers.

>>59595997
Buy them from Arrow Direct.

Would I regret buying an x220 in a very nice condition over a x230 that's a little banged up? I feel like I'd be missing out on the usb 3.0 ports unless that's something that could be upgraded in the x220

>>59596110
You can get Expresscard to USB3 adapter. so, no.

>>59595492
>So did the seller get a handy or what? (;
Used both hands
>The touchpad can be swapped for $30.
Really? That's awesome. I didn't think this touchpad would bother me very much but it's already starting to bug me. Mind pointing me in the right direction for a replacement touchpad/a how-to install guide?
>If this is your first ThinkPad, enjoy it very well.
So far so good! SSD is quite small in this thing (180GB), so I'll need to figure out what to do about that. I'm honestly considering just carrying around some flash drives with this thing and using them as semi-permanent storage for now until I feel like getting a bigger drive.

>>59596083
>they cover most T20 to T431s models.
So for anything **4* onwards I should use the Lenovo lookup?

>>59596083
why dont you stop being a tripfaggot, faggot?

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>>59596083
KK is it good now?