/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

Where's the porn though?

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>>59514724
>tfw too poor to buy a X320

>>59514755
Where to cop those chink modded TPs without getting scammed?

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>>59514755

Ayyy

>>59514808
You lucky motherfucker.

How much did you pay?

>>59514820
Fuck off with your porn links in OP

>>59514841

Too much, it was like $600. Almost cancelled because of how long it took that chink to make them.

OK /tpg/, I'm looking at a brand new, boxed and sealed X230 (IPS, i5, 4GB/500GB) for £300. Would love a non seamen stained chinkpad... Is this a fair price?

>>59514882
On the flip side you have one of the rarest ThinkPads in the world.

>>59514898
That's a good price but can you live with 1366x768

>>59514938
Well I know I want a X230, so yeah.

>>59514956
Go for it, great price.

Although the benefit of buying something like an X250 is 1080p + getting to jew Lenovo's warranty for new chargers, RAM and keyboards

Feeling like replacing my X220 this year, might buy a T470. TP Classic will be too expensive.

What could go wrong? I don't mind the new keyboard layout, though it is disappointing.

>>59515172

Any reason you want to go bigger, x270 looks legit? I'd go x1 carbon Gen5 tho, for the small footprint 14".

>>59515368
X270 uses an old as fuck chassis at this point, it's a recycled X240.

X1C looks fucking amazing but it's expensive and hard to repair. I guess the downsides of the T470 is the shitty 1080p IPS panel and only x2 NVMe.

t430s a best

>>59515547
>also doubles as a furnace

Just got my hands on an X220, I love it, the screen is so damn nice, I had an X61 before which I used as a daily machine till this day.
Still not quite sure what linux distro I'm going to dump on it, thinking about taking the leap with Gentoo just for the heck of it.

Anyway, I'm really satisfied.

>>59515659
>downgrading from 4:3 to 16:9
Sorry for your loss.

>>59515706
The only downside, I agree, I liked the 4:3.
What is the best 4:3 model anyway?
The X61 is pretty old and low-power to be honest.

Want a better screen in my x220, do I wait for that russian dude to make more 1080p kits or settle for a 1366x768 IPS screen?

>>59515744
T601F (aka Frankenpad).

4:3 T61 motherboard inside a T60p chassis (FlexView IPS).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m74otZqd2Y

>>59514617
ACTUAL THREAD
>>59514617

>>59514754
Same, I like the other unofficial thread DESU

>>59515048
>can T60 display be used on T23
No, far to new and way different pinout iirc. Even T60 to T4x screen compatibility is narrow without special software.

>>59514908
By far, probably not even close to the top 15 rarest ThinkPads
A uncommon mod yes, I wouldn't say its 'rare' though.

>>59514898
Very good price, I mean it is brand new! You may need a fresh new battery though, just sayin.
>tfw that new thinkpad metal smell sealed away

>>59515401
X1C2 and X1C3 were actually fairly easy to open and to replace the motherboard.
Just parts are expensive, and maybe fixing a broken touchscreen may be difficult because of the glass.

>>59515744
Best 4:3?
Modded T601p (T61 mobo) with maybe a Core 2 Extreme
Or X61 w/ T9300 (T9500 might of been an option) and a SXGA+ IPS display if you can mod the cable.

>>59515883
>By far, probably not even close to the top 15 rarest ThinkPads

What would they be?
I'm sure a few thousand Transnote and PowerPC models were made, the X320/330 numbers are probably in the hundreds?

What do you guys use the ExpressCard slot for?

>>59515965
egpu

>>59515965
USB 3.0 (T420)

>>59515986
but on a T420 the usb express cards are fucking shit, what brand\model are you using?

>>59516001
Random chinkshit card found on Amazon.
Might not be so good as the built in on a T430/etc., but sure is better than nothing.

>>59516001
how so?

If you mean the freezing it's solved by turning off a setting in the bios and if you mean not having native usb 3.0 speeds well yeah but it's still better than 2.0

>>59516027
>turning off a setting in the bios
what setting?

it better not be C-states, nigger

>>59516048
not the cpu ones but yep the pci ones, disable "pci express power management"

>>59516083
it rapes your battery you stupid shit

>>59516128
works4me

You told me soft rim was shit.

Fuck you /tpg/. Fuck you.

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Led backlit t601f master race

>>59516477
>dat 4:3 slim bezel design

muh dick

Is it unusual for a T520 with i5-2520M to be idling at 55C? Fresh TIM application, too.

>>59516621
Sounds about right, laptops always run warmer than desktops.

>>59516668
>Sounds about right
not really, something's not right.

>>59516621
you fucked up the paste, the contact is shit, try again.

>>59516477
COMFY CLASSIC

>>59516477
MOAR

>>59516621
yes i'm idling at 44 with the i7 2640m and on a t420 which has a smaller heatsink

Is it possible to have a 4g lte wwan card in a x220? Does it need a custom bios?

>>59516621
Idling about 50 here after changing thermal paste.

What SSD do you use/recommend for your TP? Should I trust kingdian?

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>>59516974
>>>59516477 (You)
>MOAR
Screen brightness is also very similar to my t530s 270nit display (excuse the poor calibration)

>>59515909
Ok I might of over exaggerated a bit.

X320/330 are still in production, so many examples can still be built to order and are available, and from I can tell, may be available for a year or two.

Though there are thousands of Transnotes and 800 Series Thinkpads made, how many of them survived I am not sure. Which is what I meant by rare, as in you can't really find them til they show up.

>>59516477
I burn the second inverter I got from them and I haven't modded since.

>>59515977
what GPU are you using and what CPU?

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New comfy Thinkpad Telegram group

https://t.me/thinkpadgeneral

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>>59498301
>>59498122

TO THE ANONS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH DRIFT

yo replace the nub. the profile is likely gone, making you push it harder than it was ever designed for. This is causing the drift. You get used to pushing it harder over time because of very slowly developing wear. especially if you got the lappy second hand, and the previous owner also used the trackpoint.

>Yfw you have to set your sensitivity settings back 70% after getting a new nub.

Can a x230 motherboard be transplanted into a x220?
Also is there a way to remove the sata 2 limit on msata drives in the x220 and x230?

>>59518374
no and no

Is there any news on the anniversary edition yet?
I've long retired my X301 and I want a thinkpad again. The surface book has shit linux support and I miss the trackpoint.

>>59518507
October

>never had any laptops
>never cared for them
>bought x200
>4 days using it, comfy as shit
>loving all of it
>now every single laptop I touch seem like a wobbly fragile piece of plastic shit, plus no trackpoint

I have fallen for /lit/, /ic/, /fit/, /g/ memes, but goddamn, thinkpad is the on the top3 memes I have fallen for, thanks g+tpg

>>59518555
Well I see you all in October

>>59517774
Any idea how we can get our hands on an X320 anyways? I was not aware of its existence but it seems like the absolute perfect laptop. I can wait for months for the chinese dude to make mine, I don't mind. Why Lenovo cannot make one of those, I do not know. It's like they hate money.

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this is obviously thee only thinkpad anyone should own

>>59518724
I'm going to copy pasta this everytime some gook even mentions buying lel,no-vo's post **20 bullshit.

T460 owner here,

>Build quality
Alright compared to most laptops today
but absolute shit compared to the older (pre t420) thinkpads.
I've dropped my t460 2 times already, once on the edge with the battery.
This made one of the battery holding switches pop out and have the battery be losely held in place, and the screen slightly bent outwards because of malformed hinges.
Second time I dropped was game over, I pulled on a headphone cable and the laptop fell face down from a table about waist height.
This caused both hinges to break off the laptop, and the screen to eventually fail.
Compare this to my t40 which I have thrown multiple times across the room in fits of rage and still works perfectly.
The new thinkpad durability is shit.
>Keyboard
Even though all the nig/g/ers here complain about the new keyboard being the worst thing about the new thinkpads,
its actually quite good, and I would say much better for typing than the old t40 keyboard.
The t460 keyboard has much more clicker and responsive than the t40 keyboard,
and the spaced out keys give me much less mis-typed words.
The only thing that is better on the pre-t420 keyboards are the layout,
which is very important because everyone on /g/ is a professional video editor
that uses millions of key-shortcuts that all use the home, end, insert, and delete buttons.
>Screen
T460 screen was superb, I have the model which had the 1080p IPS display.
Screen was bright, colors were great, and the resolution was sharp.
However, all this does not matter if the screen is not attached to the computer anymore from a fall off a table.
There are older thinkpads that have screens that are on par (x220 IPS display)
or even better (t60 Boe-Hydis AFFS display) than the newer thinkpads.

(Continued)

>>59518893
>Linux Support
Despite what everyone tells you, absolute shit.
Yeah, wifi drivers will work out of the box on even the most difficult of distros (Gentoo),
and graphics drivers too (no shit its intel HD graphics).
However, there are so many other fucking problems with linux on this shit.
The clit mouse is as hard as dehydrated shit to get working on.
You have to fuck around in the xorg.conf for a couple of hours with joystick variables to get the trackpoint to work.
And because of the oversized trackpad for nigger fingers, you have to disable it.
But guess what dipshit, even after you disable the trackpad,
if you put your palm on the trackpad while using the trackpoint like a normal person,
the trackpoint will zig zag like a shit headed fuck high on ASSSSSS.
So, you have to arch your hand like a fucking spider to use the trackpoint.

In short, the new thinkpad is as bad as /g/ers say on /tpg/, but not for the reasons they say.
Go get yourself a x220 or build yourself a t601f so you can be the most badass fucking shit in this thread,
and stay clear of the lenovo chinkshit chicken-shit bullshit.
Also by buying gook-no-vo's horseshit your supporting their new thinkpad design,
if every nig/g/er on this board stop buying this shit, lenovo might make a retro thinkpad to appease us and get our shekels again.

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>>59517573
>>59516477
VERY nice anon. Got Franken Parts and an X60s on the way right now

>>59517843
Used to have a 2720QM T420 + GTX 950, worked fine.

>>59514724
Is 113 euros too much for a X220 i5 2520m that is a bit beaten up? I'll have to get 8gb RAM (it comes with only 3GB) and a SSD.

>>59518907
What's with the chink jokes regarding Lenovo's recent lineup? Did the Chinese buy a majority stake in it or something?

>>59519399
Lenovo is a Chinese company, centered in china and manufactures in china.

Fuckin dumb nigger cattle.

>>59518724
1/10 for making me reply
this is obviously not a ThinkPad. the glossy screen alone disqualifies it as one

>>59514808
what exactly am i looking at?

>>59519804
chink mod that puts an XPS 13 display in an X220/X230

>>59519928
I need this in my life

>>59518449
Why wont a x230 motherboard fit in an x220? Its the exact same appearance as the x220 motherboard.

>>59518724
>Yoga bait
It might be recommended for the basic dumbshit who needs a touchscreen laptop, but otherwise it falls short out of a lot of things
>idgaf if you can play the newest (read non intensive) games at low to medium settings.

>>59519298
What are you going to do?

>>59519399
Eh.
Its just a literally a term used by people who never had IBM ThinkPad with GPU issues.

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>>59518675

There's a chink and some reddit guy(kind of like an ambassdor for to sell in us) that share a facebook page called "Lcdfans"


They made me pay through like a google doc, but he uses paypal. It was kind of sketchy, but I eventually ended up getting mine so w/e. They also sell x62 and they're working on a T70

should i buy a t60 even though i have a current year model laptop. what would be the benefit over my $1000 machine?

>>59520703
Toss a minimal OS on there and you have a light media (download, not stream) and development pkaybox. You probably don't want to install unstable nightly releases of shut you use and develope, so it's nice to have a cheap burner instead.
Plus if you want to actually anonymize yourself you can get libreboot etc.

Is X250 the first 12" with a 1080p screen? Thanks.

>>59520810
No. Checking specs on earlier models isn't hard anon.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X240

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if these old thinkpads didn't smell like sweaty balls because of the rubber rails holding the storage drives, i'd buy one.

>>59520900
Thanks what's the the diff between the older style keyboard on say a x230 and island key style on the x240?

>>59520922
Sorry I meant x220. I see x230 has island keys as well.

Can anyone recommend a good Canadian refurbisher or reseller?

>>59520916
It's like a couple bucks to replace them anyway, and with clever use of some Black Ice you could could just cover the smell up with the FRESH until it goes away.

>>59520922
>>59520940
Yeah the x230's keyboard is much the same as the x240, though it can still swap in an x220 keyboard unlike the x240 (as far as I know)

The main practical difference between classic and chicklet keyboards is just the layout. Up to you which you prefer, though I personally feel like you're better off making good use of key combinations on both to save moving your hands as much. Other than that you probably won't notice much difference, they're both pretty good.

>>59520746
Thanks. Any recommended models i can get for less then 100 with decent specs?

>>59521052
Nah not really, haven't done too much research on the T60/Core2Duos/ultra-cheap thinkpads honestly. Check out ThinkWiki or other buying guides; do some homework, since you'll likely spend some time digging for a good one if you aren't willing to repair.

https://wiki.installgentoo.com has an article on thinkpads.

>>59521106
Thanks man

>>59521052
If you go from $100 to $150 you will go from getting like a t60 or maybe a beat up t400 to a really nice t420 with dgpu

>>59521330
he had to get a computer after the neighbor kid destroyed his memoir.

>>59521178
>t420 with dgpu
don't

i5 vs i7 for an x230?

Any reason not to shove Debian onto my T500?

>>59521345
God I hope he spanked the little fucker good and then beat up his irresponsible fat dad or something.

Is W701 a good semi-portable desktop replacement for $300?
Mostly want a decent display quality at 15-17"

>>59521369
pretty much no reason not to.
I mean if the wifi & trackpad driver work, then pretty much everything else will be a breeze.

>>59521052
>decent specs
It will be lucky if you get a 2nd gen i5 laptop with a hard drive, AC adapter and 70% or better hard drive for under $100 shipped.

barebone i5 third gens go for $65 before shipping, all others below that are a big fucking risk for the most part

>>59520916
I don't mind the smell, but I kinda like the smell of old trinitrons and dead computer equipment of the 80's.
Also I am homosex as well.

>>59518907
>the trackpoint is hard as fuck to set up
worked for me on x250
>oversized trackpad have to disable
palm rejection works for me

>>59521858
First off, $300 is a good price for a W701 if you want something with a digitizer or have nostalgia goggles
otherwise, $280 SHOULD get you a decent i7 15" laptop with a better GPU & CPU, even if it is an i5....

I've yet to get a W701, but given HP had IPS displays on 87xx and later... tough call to say.
though I am not one to talk since I am going to sell a 8740w for $340 soon. (x

>>59522249
don't bother replying to that retard. he's been posting this copypasta for quite some time

>>59521359
The performance difference isn't much between them, they're both still same generation dual cores. Imo if you can find an i5 with a noticibally lower price than the i7, grab the i5.

Anyone else had an issue with the x220 palmrest cracking? Just noticed today, got a tiny hairline crack in the super thin part of the palmrest next to the touchpad. Anything I can do short of buying a replacement?

Going to upgrade my 2170p to an old ssd I have laying around, but I'm worried 240GB isn't going to be enough.

Is it impractical to buy a cheap 64 or 128GB Micro SD card for it and just leave it plugged in for additional storage?

Was thinking about something like
http://s.aliexpress.com/mARNv67r

>>59523271
Whether it's enough depends entirely on how you use it. If you want to have your entire collection of chinese cartoons with your wherever you go, you might run into issues. Otherwise it's pretty manageable, just try it and see how quickly you get through it.

Using TN cards for storage isn't all that bad, but I wouldn't be in any huge rush to get one unless you're sure you can put it to good use if you find that you don't really need such a mild improvement in storage space anyway.

>>59523450
I found a 64GB with kinda crappy transfer speeds for 20aud.

I use this laptop at work to help me stay awake so 240GB should be enough with careful management. It's just a worry though and $20 isn't much to spend in case I need a few extra GB on hand.

http://s.aliexpress.com/ZZjyeemu

But you're right, I'll use my laptop for a couple of weeks and then decide

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>>59522423
Well $300 is a rough conversion from local price and there is pretty much no price reference point, both W701 and 8740w are very very rare where I live, prices for other older 15-17" vary a lot and shipping from US to Russia would be $60-100

The W701 I've mentioned doesn't have a digitizer and otherwise has mid-low specs - Q820, 4GB, 2800M and plastic parts of the body are badly damaged, although display seems fine.

>>59523562
You can just keep the data on the old HDD in tact and swap it back in if anything doesn't work out early on. Or even chuck the HDD in a caddy and leave it at work or something. Though $20 isn't too terrible, as long as it doesn't end up being redundant as soon as you find a better way of storing large amounts of data.

>given some really old ThinkPads from a friend for free. (T43, 61p and x301).
>start using the x301 instead of currently damaged MacBook Pro (because it's the only one with usable specs)
>Love the keyboard, literally better than the t43 and 61. Mac is terrible in comparison. Build quality and trackpoint are amazing.

But sadly, the specs are just too shitty. Core 2 duo is too bad for programming, and the integrated GPU is way too shit for light gaymen such as csgo. I would love a similar exterior with modern specs, but it seems like the newer ones have a lot of problems. I would get a t420 but even that seems a little weak, as does the t430. Since budget isn't a problem (not going to pay out the ass like for a p70, but don't need to buy used) what's the most similar modern machine I can get? I don't need amazing specs, but I want good Linux support (only Intel wifi, fuck Broadcom). Given that Nvidia GPUs on Linux are a total waste of time, ideally I want good Intel graphics like an iris 520. So what modern ThinkPad should I get for good build/keyboard and good Linux support?

>>59523083
>Anything I can do short of buying a replacement?
toothpaste and paint thinner

>>59523797
>So what modern ThinkPad should I get for good build/keyboard and good Linux support?
T440s

>>59523271
>Is it impractical to buy a cheap 64 or 128GB Micro SD card for it and just leave it plugged in for additional storage?
yes

>>59521359
i5

>>59521858
look for a W520


>>59519378
if no other options then yes

I'm looking for some good OS for an X220. One where I can use a lot of keyboard shortcuts for whatever I want to do, that is fast enough (I use an SSD but it's a micron C400, ain't the best stuff), do some mad browsing and shitposting, watch youtube videos, some virtualization and maybe virtual desktops because the resolution is pretty crappy. I'll be honest, what would bother me most would be losing screen real estate, I want to be comfortable within this low resolution. Would be nice if I got decent battery life out of it as well.

Which OS would you recommend?

>>59523913
Is this cunt serious? T440s? Garbage battery and shit trackpad without clicking buttons

>>59523993
Linux is very comfy for those tasks. Battery life is a little worse than windows. I'd recommend any flavour of Ubuntu or OpenSUSE if you're new to Linux. It is incredibly customisable. Keyboard shortcuts can do what ever you want. Virtualisation is great, virtual desktops are on most desktop environments. I'm a little biased because I use it myself, and really you'd get on just fine with any version of windows (othertl than 10). Linux can look better and is customisable, and also free.

>>59524098
Ain't really new to linux, a few years ago I decided to tamper with both Debian and Arch which felt more like copypasting and finding solutions to fix shit so I'm kind of past that.

I'm wondering if Unity is taxing enough to make it sluggish, considering it uses compiz.

I also considered Windows 8.1 because it came with it and it was working pretty goddamned fast but I didn't put time measuring battery life on it.

>>59523993
If you want to abuse shortcuts and virtual desktops then i3 might be worth trying.

How much is a X220T worth with 8GB of RAM and a 160GB SSD (in Germany/Euros)?

>>59524098
>Battery life is a little worse than windows.
>a little
lmao

>>59524073
hey, it's a decently built 14'' with good linux support. suggest something else then wanker.

>>59524159
prob like 270/300 wich cpu does it have?
if it has the i5 its multitouch screen if its i7 its only pen I believe

>>59524302
Core i5 2520M

>>59524159
oh 160gb ssd
this fucking fucking sun on my screen
rather 235/250

50 euros for a x200 worth?
cpu needs to be upgraded
only 3gb ram
needs ssd

Can someone tell me the differences between the T430 and the T430s?
The s model seems to be thinner and lighter, but I can't read any drawbacks due to this in the datasheets.

>>59524383
Battery is worse
That's always the drawback of -s

>>59524377
yes

>>59524383
Soldered CPU, and you only get one choice for the battery and it's a small one.

>>59524383
>T430s
the rear ports are a shitshow

Any decent 9 cell non OEM batteries for a x220?

>>59524395
>>59524476
>>59524507
So the conclusion is: Buy a T430?

I know most of you dont care about this argument and I agree that you shouldnt care but
I wished thinkpads had trackpads like the dell e6410 I am using one right now and its far more superior than my x230 trackpad
I used trackpoint most of the time but having a nice trackpad is such a relief for when you use it

>>59524577
no

get a T530

>>59524577
If you're able to use the lower weight without needing battery life then the T430s can make sense. Say, if you need to bring it back and forth between work and home every day but don't need to use it for more than a couple hours in between.

The T430 is definitely the most suitable for the majority of people though, and if you don't know what you want then go with it just because it's much more flexible.

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>tfw living in democratic, federal parliamentary Islamic republic
>tfw there's influx of refurbished thinkpads
>tfw everyone buying thinkpads because it's cheap

Can't tell if it's a good thing or a bad thing.

>>59524620
Thanks for the tip. I currently use a X230. I was just wondering if there was any major drawback with the s model. The price gap between X230 and T430 is ridiculous, since they have the same hardware...It's one of the times where I'd wish to be an ameriburger

>>59524701
>>59524620
I think the T430s looks bloody cool but it's such a shame that the CPU is soldered. I have an X230 and I want to move up at some point for a variety of reasons not limited to the eGPU RAM bug and display resolution, but if I were going to swap devices I would need a processor power increase as well to make it worth while. Instead I'd just go 3rd gen i7 to 3rd gen i7. With the regular T430 you can fit in a meaty, future proof quad core i7. :(

>>59514724
Guys i don't know where to post. This is kinda related.

Should i spend 20 euros and upgrade from a t5600 to a t7200?

>>59524644

> living in democratic, federal parliamentary Islamic republic

yeah, it's a bad thing, sorry.

>>59524644
Send us some

>>59525129

you get 8% more performance

get a x7800

taking windows 7 and loonix out of the question

would I be better off with w10 or w8.1 on the x220?

>>59525360

definitely 8.1
once you disable the automatic updates and telemetry scheduled tasks (like six or seven of them) then it's a faster windows 7.

w10 is an ad-ridden disk-thrashing pile of shit at this point.

>>59514754
>>59515883
That joke was dead by the time the second thread came around

>>59525486
Hmm. Is telemetry shit that dangerous?

And in the event that telemetry updates be installed, is removing them futile?

>>59525517
>joke police
go back to /b/

>>59525533
>Is telemetry shit that dangerous?
dangerous as in runs in the background and uploads shit and you get cpu spikes and shit

>>59525533
>is removing them futile?
not really, just disable those scheduled tasks.

>>59525360
Looking at benchmarks, performance advantages between the two are all over the place but 10 is maybe slightly better. If you want a very mild battery life improvement then 10 might be better, and I assume you might get some extra features as well.

The differences are so small though that I'd be going with 8.1 just out of personal preference, and to avoid 10's botnet.

>>59525533
There are utilities around to remove them, and I'm pretty sure they remove the telemetry completely. They can also outright block the updates from occurring so you'd be fine if you got that sorted from the start. The other option is just to not enable updates at all, which I did on my current desktop, but it isn't exactly wise especially if you want to connect to untrusted networks.

>>59515965
usb 3.0, I have t500.

Not as fast as native usb3.0 but still faster than usb2.0.

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>>59525360
I have windows 10 LTSB dualbooty with xubuntu on my x220, it's speedy

Also join the new thinkpad telegram group
t.me/thinkpadgeneral

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>>59525180
>it's a bad thing
The prices are relatively close to the guide.
But no high specs are available though.
Most people who buys it, are tricked by the "CORE i5 is good for gaming" not knowing there are different gens of core i5.
And most of the accessories are generic chinks.
I got a 9 cell battery for T420, but it gave less than hour of battery life, I took it apart and there was this piece of metal to give it a weight.
No docks, No ExpressCards, No spare parts.
And can't order online.
Though people still shame you for not using apple products if you use thinkpads in public.

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Does anyone have the s70?

I have 800$. What Thinkpad should I buy?

>>59525749
W540

>>59525749
Buy an X220 and spend the rest on hookers and booze.

Cheap battery x220

>>59525919
>booze
>not weed

>>59525749

Go to lenovo outlet and t460

>>59525749
an X220 with a IPS, i7-3517UE, and 1TB msata ssd

>>59525948
>weed
you need to go back

1TB msata SSD? That seems like a waste. I would go for SATA if it's the only drive he's going to use.

>>59514898

>I'm looking at a brand new, boxed and sealed X230 (IPS, i5, 4GB/500GB) for £300.

No, you're not. You're not looking at a new, boxed and sealed x230 for £300. Nobody would ever sell it that low. Check again.

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>>59525304
>x7800
Socket P

>t5600\t7200\t7400\t7600...
Socket M

I want to buy a laptop, but can't decide which one, currently I'm on the edge about buying the new xps. How are thinkpads compared to that one? Are they cheaper with the same specs? I don't even care about touch screen, I just want good battery life and above 15" screen with a gpu, since I'd like to play some video games as well as work.
pls respond

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>>59523993
Xubuntu or any distro with an Xfce Desktop Environment, wont eat up your battery. You can also try adding TLP to increase battery life on Linux.

Personally I dualboot Windows 10 LTSB with Xubuntu on my x220, super comfy.

Pic related: Xfce on x220 resolution

Anyone using manjaro xfce on thinkpad?
Do you use the open drivers or you use this?
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/libva-intel-driver/

>>59526048
>if it's the only drive he's going to use.

not a waste m8, the sata slot you use it with a 3TB regular drive for porn.

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>>59520560
I feel so fucking conflicted now

Should I buy one of these now, bird in the hand but somewhat sketchy, or wait for Lenovo to *possibly* deliver us a retro Thinkpad in October? I want to wait, but I don't know if I can, and who knows if they will give us anything at all. My T60p and my X200s are both on their last fucking legs

Fuck me I don't know what to do

>>59526048
>>59526404
Oh right, forgot about the porn

>>59526097
get a P50

Alright, I'm new here but I need help.

So, my sister bought her old (not sure how old) thinkpad t420 from work for cheap (around $ 20).
I've been thinking about getting a laptop (my current one is shit), but maybe I should be trying to use the thinkpad instead.
I'm not particularly worried about malware and shit, since I plan on installing a new OS on it, but it's not officially refurbished or anything, and I don't know shit about hardware and laptop care for used hardware.
I can't be bothered to have to keep moving all my files, so my question is should I even bother with this, and what should I check for if any?

>>59526475
>what should I check for if any?
naked pics and chat logs

>>59520560
I got a question.

How is it Lenovo, a multibillion dollar corporation with immense supply line power, can say with a straight face that they can no longer source 4:3 screens for the retro Thinkpad, but somehow a couple of Chinks working out of a cottage business can? And not just any 4:3 screen, a high-resolution IPS one at that?

>>59526578
i also don't get it why they won't introduce a propper successor of the X220. this machine is alsmost 6 years old and still very popular, i can't think of another machine from 2011 which is still relevant and traded.

>>59526422
Can you even get a normal gaym0r card in a P50? I thought they only put in Nvidia Quadro M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JTaKZgsR5Q

docked thinkpad

>>59514724
>>59514808
Is it possible to fit in an ips panel that is 100% sRGB?

okay I fell for the meme and got a T420 with Ubuntu installed, what programs should i download for this puppy ?
Also best music player?

>>59526422
>>59526792
Isn't the xps better since it has better specs and a lower price? The one you mentioned is 1900.

>>59515977

How's that working out?

I have a GTX460 laying around and it'd be nice to be able to dock my 220 and do a bit of light gaming.

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Tell me why I shouldn't buy this over an X230.

>>59526514
>go to /tpg/
>they don't know shit about thinkpads

should've known.
thanks, /g/, goodnight

>>59527050
>muh XPS

Rajeesh pls go back to your shill threads

>>59520022

Why do you even want the x230 internals in the x220 body?

>>59527165
no nipple idk lol

>>59514808

Good god that looks nice.

How's the battery life and Linux support for the new display?

>>59527186
It's there, but black

>>59527157
Worked pretty good for me as long as you stay away from Pascal cards.

I don't do it anymore because i got bored of gayming though.

>>59527177
It's an honest question, I'm not knowledgable in laptopts, why not just help me out?

>>59527240
BLACKED
L
A
C
K
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>>59520539
Gonna build the T601 so I'll never be tempted to get a nupad and use the X60s for shitposting and reading.

>tfw the old IBM ThinkBag holds them both

>>59527254
>convince me not to shill XPS's in every thread

sure man, got a paypal?

>>59527165
how much is that with an ips panel?

>>59514898

>boxed and sealed X230
>£300

Where? How?

>>59527367
t. retard
I was honestly asking, I am in the market for a new laptop and don't know what to buy, since it's my first.

I'm about to buy a thinkpad x200 tablet core 2 duo, am I gonna be able to watch chinese cartoons and youtube on it?

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From where should I buy a new x260/x270?

I have setup tlp to setup a battery charge threshold. Seems to work and stops at 80%. Is it better to keep it plugged in at 80% where I assume it just trickle charges as necessary or to unplug it and let it fall to 60% where I will plug it in again until 80%?

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>>59514724
elitebook 2170p fag here. Just swapped out 500GB HDD for an old 250GB SATA 3.0gbps SSD I had laying around.

The difference in performance is enourmous. Feels like my laptop turns on as soon as I slide the power switch. If it's not enough storage I'll just toss in a cheapo chinese 128GB Micro SD card with the adapter into the side.

I'm having this weird thing on Windows on my X220 where scrolling with the trackpoint on random windows (not the browser, but different programs) is really, really jerky and skips a lot. Is this a normal thing?

>>59524123
i can recommend xubuntu. everything works out of the box and you can even enable the fingerprint reader.

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Guys I just picked up this thinkpad at a local thrift store.

>>59528199
clean that for the love of god

>>59528221
It smells like pajeet

>>59528199
Is...Is that semen?

>>59528022
>or to unplug it and let it fall to 60%
you dumb nigger, it falls itself back at 60 after a few weeks, let it plugged in.

>>59528233
I hope not, but knowing thinkpad owners.....most likely.

>>59528295
>knowing thinkpad owners.....most likely.
ebin meme

Asking for a friend.
What's a good new or used thinkpad for 1500€? I do plan to play games on it.

>>59528617
With that kind of budget you may as well get one of the lower end gaming laptops. Same modularity as the thinkpads, but your trading off build quality for performance.

I went both ways, and I can easily say that the build quality on my alienware isn't significantly worse than my thinkpad. Only reason I got the thinkpad x220 was beacuse it was an m18x, too heavy to truly be a laptop.

What do you guys think is the oldest model thinkpad you could get and comfortably use for browsing, emails, and some /comfy/ linux? No gaming.

>>59529272
Some modern websites are barely useable on C2D, I doubt anything older than that could be comfy unless you literally disable all javascript

>>59529326
>Some modern websites are barely useable on C2D
Like what? Im curious as Im using c2d thinkpad right now and only shitbook is slightly laggy with its billion autoplay videos.

>>59529578
I have to use google spreadsheets for work and often have to fully reload the page as it gets unresponsive.

>>59526614
They did release a successor to the X220, it was called the X230.

>>59528199
Sick Starcraft machine

I don't think the T23 still has enough oomph for shitposting

>>59528755
>the build quality on my alienware isn't significantly worse than my thinkpad

Having owned both a T410 (which I got memed into buying in 2014) and an M14x (originally bought for university in 2012), I can say that this is patently false. But the Alienware probably had better build quality than most gaming laptops.

>>59529272
Probably a T61. I would say T60 for those 4:3 screen but the 32 bit Core Duo is basically a heavily modified Pentium 3, and it's beyond its prime. First gen C2Ds are fine.

>>59516477
X220 > T60

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>>59529776
People with opinions this bad actually exist.

>>59529776
> 1366x768 > 1600x1200

>>59528755
Which ones would you recommend in that price range specifically? I'm looking for an all-around laptop, that I can use as a desktop as well, but not too expensive, hence 1400 budget.

>>59526175
how the fuck you riced it like this

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>>59525999
Start smoking weed NAO

no memeing please: how bad is windows 10 on a x220? thinking about installing it for office use, but i hesitate performance wise. don't get started about muh, botnet, i'm aware, just asking for performance- and battery reasons.

>inb4 win7
no option, i have a spare licence for 10pro.

>>59526175
Explain how to make xfce look like this
No matter how I do it, it always looks like shit

>>59523609
Ah I see.
Hmmm get it? But if you are from Russia, dunno if you'll find sellers to ship to your country with reasonable prices for the replacement parts.

>>59524073
>can't remove clickpad and install touchpad
>probably gonna bitch at the T450 being too expensive

>>59527182
The x230 has a slightly different look to the shell than the x220 shell, which I like better. Also ivy bridge had much better battery life.

>>59522249
palm rejection doesn't work on linux

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Just came into ownership of a R400, what would be a good light distro to stick on here to get the most out of it?

>>59528139
>you can even enable the fingerprint reader
how?

>>59524644
>democratic, federal parliamentary Islamic republic
pakistan?

Hey, I recently purchased an x220 but I'm having problems starting it. It works fine as long as I disconnect the keyboard and use a keyboard via USB. Is there a fix for this? Replace keyboard ?

>>59530467
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/how-to-get-your-fingerprint-reader-working-in-ubuntu

still valid.

>>59529776
enjoy your horrible screen

>>59529991
pls respond

>>59530302
it's shit

>>59530442
Lubuntu

>>59529991
E7470

>>59529697
this is true

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>>59530078
>>59530400

Sorry it's not me, I got the image from a Desktop thread in /wg/ just to show what can we done with Xfce on a screen resolution like the x220

>>59531321
Could you offer another suggestion please? The battery looks rather lackluster and it only has an integrated gpu.

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Not really sure where this question is supposed to go, but since it's about my ThinkPad I guess I'll ask here.

On my screen there is a weird bright spot in the middle of the screen. It's easiest to see when the screen is white.

Have anyone else had this problem and solved it?

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ms excel (with high priority) slow as fuck with barely any calculations on my x200 with nothing but essential processes running, pic related speccy of it. Is it just the processor causing all the slowliness or is it some mysterious shit? I barely use windows, just curious, have been using xubuntu for much heavier stuff and its been just fine

>>59531489
>The battery looks rather lackluster
win7 then. dont you have a win7 serial key sticker on your X220?

>>59531617
I meant for the E7470. Should I go for the xps instead? It's been shilled a lot here but is it actually good?

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>>59531564

>>59531321
>E470
wrong. E is shit. For that price it might be possible to get a T470. If not, T460. It's not like it's outdated just because it's a year old.

>>59531723
>wrong. E is shit.
wrong, you're a fucking retard, I was talking about the Latitude E7470

>>59531637
>Should I go for the xps instead?
if I say yes can I have some of that """subtle""" shill money?

>>59531723
see
>>59518893
and >>59518907

>>59531758
There's no other way of putting it, that guy is a massive retard. Not even half of this stupid copypasta is true.

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>>59531653

Is 3.5ish hours of battery life on a t430 with Windows 10 and a 9-cell normal?

>>59532032
win10 is shit, yes.

>>59531564
yea I had the same cpu in a elitebook and it was awful for windows7 tasks\office. try a linux alternative or get a X201

>>59531753
I will give you one (((you))) if you recommend me a different laptop for roughly 1500€ that I can also play games on, and where the battery will last for a while for doing programming or writting.

Where do you get reliable replacement adapters? All local stores tried to sell me on $50+ universal bullshit. That's more than I paid for the Thinkpad.

>>59532188
fuck off Kumar

>>59532369
>ask for advice on buying a laptop
>get called the slovenian word for cucumber instead
T-thanks.

>>59532414
You gave him a (You) anyways.
I'd recomment a modern T series machine with dGPU. Those aren't really high end gaming laptops but they can handle it. Battery life is good in general. Older models will last you up to 9 hours from my experience, newer models are being advertised with up to 18 hours.

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has anyone used one of these before ? thinking of getting one for work

>>59532484
Uhh... where's screen?

Just checking out the new 70 series models.
Are... are they really still offering 1366x768 displays? That was a valid option in 2011 but come on a 1080p display isn't super high end and expensive today.

>>59532449
Which one specifically? I haven't bought a laptop before. Also what's a dGPU?

>>59532496
Its a keyboard silly, like a proper desktop keyboard

>>59532484

Dont do it, it's not the same as the laptop keyboard. It just feels like your average cheap rubberdome.

>>59532590
Don;t listen to this guy, it's the same as the laptop keyboard +nipple

>>59532535
>dGPU
dedicated GPU. It's basically a dedicated processor responsible for 3D graphics as opposed to an internal graphics solution that sits in the CPU.
>Which one specifically
Your budget is enough to be able to afford a T470 but I don't know if it's enough to get one with dGPU so I'd say you should go for a T460 if you want 14" or T560 if you want 15". Keep in mind that those use Ultrabook CPUs. If you want more performance you should look for T series with a p addition (T460p). These are a bit thicker, a bit heavier, a bit cheaper but offer more performance due to their higher powered CPUs.

>>59532520
They're targeted towards businesses. Businesses where the one doing the purchasing is usually going to be a manager who doesn't have to use the same laptops anyway so they don't exactly care that the screens are eyecancer and just go with whatever's cheapest and thus makes them look better for saving money on the upfront cost.

>>59532616
I know, it's been like this for years but nowadays it's just bullshit. You can't even justify a $10 difference in price between a 768p model and a 1080p model. Fucking hell, display panels are cheap.

>>59532610
>>59532590

Even if it does feel bad its still got the touchpoint :)
Most reviews I have looked at have said that it feels like a proper think pad keyboard tho

>>59531820
How is it not true, its my own fucking experience with the T460, how can it not be true.

>>59532704
Get one of these nigger:
http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/UB40PGA

Its the best keyboard made by man, buckling spring keyboard with trackpoint.

>>59532745
Because you're a lying copypasta retard. Or you just don't know what you're talking about. For example, you claimed that build quality was best before the 20 series, which is utter bullshit. With the 20 and 30 series build quality began recovering from Lenovo's shit.

>>59532770
>http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/UB40PGA
I will consider this, my first impression is that it is good. Thanks!

>>59526993
it is if you buy a better laptop like my X1 Carbon :^)

>>59532802
I meant before and including the 20 series. Besides that, how is my account of a T460 not factual and true.

>>59514724
Is 230€ a good price for a used x230 with 128gb ssd and 8gb ram?

>>59532910
No, because x230's are dogshit and worth nothing.

>>59532935
what would you recommend instead?

>>59532977
X220 with an ips display, it might be possible to install a x230 mobo into a x220 so try it by buying a beat to shit x230 for like 30 bucks just for the mobo and installing it into an x220.

>>59533055
So it's all about the display? Is the display of a x230 this much worse?

>>59532827
But is the x1c powerful enough for photoshop? And 3d modeling stuff ?

>>59532910
You could probably find that for like 30$ cheaper, but not too bad. Don't listen to that guy, X230 is a great laptop.

>>59533169
I'm a eurofag and thinkpads are more expensive on this side of the great lake. So if I would buy this laptop for 230€ (~250$) I wouldn't be the biggest moron that ever lived?

>>59533097
No, you can do the same ips mod to a x230,
its just that the durability and quality of the
x230 is much lower than the **20 series.

>>59533263
But the x230 excels in performance, right? If I had to pay the same price for either a x220 or x230 which one should I choose?

>>59533288
X220 because of better durability.
X230 only has slightly better cpu performance and slightly better efficency.
Its only the iGPU that is much better on ivy bridge (40% better),
which does not matter because:

A. Its only a 1366x768 display

B. People who buy thinkpads are not gamerfags

>>59533263
Don't the X220 and X230 use much the same housing save for differences in the palm rest and similar areas to accommodate keyboard differences and the like?

>>59533288
Ivy bridge is a mild CPU improvement and substantial GPU improvement, and those also translate to battery life, though again it's minor. At the same price I'd go with the X230, the main downsides are the different keyboard (if you don't like it) and no chink batteries, so up to you if that's worthwhile for your needs.

>>59533380
So if I want to play some games on it (nothing big) would the better iGPU matter?

>>59533380
All the fucking improvements in a x230 wont matter if it will break down in a few months.

The x220's superior durability is worth more than the x230's ivy bridge bullshit.

>>59533429
Depends on how big.

Emulation upto PS1, it'll run just fine.

Pre-2000 games, it'll run just fine.

Source engine, iffy, but possible.

>>59533447
Some newer indie-2d-shit? Don't Starve, Darkest Dungeon, Fez?

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BLOWN

>>59533458
x220's are not for gaming

Why are you buying a thinkpad for games, you should use the thinkpad for programming and web and have a desktop for gayming.

Fucking dumb nigger cattle.

>>59533465
She should go to Fullsail

>>59533465
Just a dumb nigger cattle, don't pay attention to its stupid comments, it can't be fixed.

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>>59533499
>>59533510
>>59533465

>https://twitter.com/flavoredcats

>>59525749
T70 anon

>>59533153
compared to an x230? top fucking kek yes

>>59533153
Ok since I own a x220t

>>59534051
>>59534051
I was thinking of getting the t460p since it looks pretty easy to modify stuff on it, but the review from notebookcheck was not good enough.

Still has my t420s that's broken. Should I just try to get an ips upgrade for it? Reading the whole chinese forum to see where I can get a conversion kit.

>>59515965
usb 3.0 nigger

what else?

>>59533438
What goes wrong with X220s that doesn't on the X230? These threads are hardly full of people having issues with either.

>>59518893
>>Build quality
>Alright compared to most laptops today
>but absolute shit compared to the older (pre t420) thinkpads.
>I've dropped my t460 2 times already, once on the edge with the battery.
>This made one of the battery holding switches pop out and have the battery be losely held in place, and the screen slightly bent outwards because of malformed hinges.
>Second time I dropped was game over, I pulled on a headphone cable and the laptop fell face down from a table about waist height.
>This caused both hinges to break off the laptop, and the screen to eventually fail.
>Compare this to my t40 which I have thrown multiple times across the room in fits of rage and still works perfectly.
>The new thinkpad durability is shit.

I threw my T420 off the 2nd floor balcony at my school's library because it pissed me off.

small crack in the bezel. popped the battery back in and all is good. posting from it now.

>>59519928
how to get this done for x220?

>>59521330
Me on the right (I teach computers - linux - to seniors with my modded t60)

>>59534896
You don't. It's extremely complicated and these mods were done commercially.

>>59525705
What specs it have?

>>59534827
>I threw my T420 off the 2nd floor balcony at my school's library because it pissed me off.
Are you a fucking child?

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I have a shit ton of parts. Most of a T41, bezels, palm rest. Ask if I have it.

Want to trade for a port replicator for my T420.

>>59536021
Honestly part of me just wanted to see if it would survive.

>>59532611
Do you happen to know where I can get one in europe? Or a retailer for lenovo in europe im general?

>>59536204
That's usually country specific. BTW you don't need to buy used. 60 series machines are still being sold new. Your budget allows for it. Do you have any trustworthy computer shops in your country?

>>59536246
Trustworthy yes, but they don't hold lenovo laptops. If they do, they're more expensive than in the us. Should I get a spectre or xps instead?
t. Slovene

>>59536352
elitebooks are not bad machines

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Sup /tpg/, does anyone have the modifed bios 1.43 for the x220?
aparently the link in this site is off :/
http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/
Pls senpai!

>>59536405
What about acer aspire?

>>59536352
They are always a lot more expensive than in the US. Used models are 50€-100€ more than in the US and new machines are up to 300€ more than in the US. There's no way of avoiding this. This goes for every laptop more or less.

>>59536483
No. No. No. Consumer laptops.

>>59536483
no


just no

>>59536466
Here you go
http://www.mediafire.com/file/94m8c5jdt2yoaft/X220+v1.43+Modified+BIOS.zip

>>59536538
>>59536557
The xps is then my best bet, since I can get it for a relatively decent price, right?
If I wanted to get a thinkpad with the same specs, I'd have to pay roughly 400 more

>>59536703
With the XPS (I guess 13?) you'd get
>better screen
>no trackpoint (for me that's a no go but it doesn't have to be a problem for you)
>lower quality keyboard with noticable bend

concerning performance, I think you mentioned earlier that you want to play games. On the XPS models there are only a few with dGPU though. I think you only get that on the XPS 15 and with that you wouldn't have any advantage in price. Also the XPS line is infamous for its coil whining problems.

>>59536072
T420? Would any part from the slim work? I'm thinking of parting my t420s...

>>59537026
Im looking for a port replicator (docking station)

>>59532484
Flimsy creaking body, key travel not as good as T60/X60 keyboard, but still decent enough.
Both of my USB ultranavs have some issue with upper right mouse button, it randomly gets unresponsive for weeks. Not a software bug as it persists on any PC I connect it to, until it randomly fixes itself for months.

>>59532805
But muh middle mouse button

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>>59536690
Got senpai! now where can I find the best settings for the bios with maximum performance for him?

>>59536965
What do you mean by bend? Yes, I meant the new 15, since the tests show decent battery life when doing simple tasks. I was thinking of spending less or around 1500, but I can't seem to find any lenovos with comparable specs in my area. Is the coil whine really loud?

>>59537221
>porn on a blue board
you should probably delete this before you get b& my dude

>>59537242
pls respond

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Just got a new screen for my x220 and it has no mount points. What do?

I think read about this while researching before I bought this but I can't find the advice that dealt with it again.

How do I secure the screen. The only thing I have to hand is super glue but fuck that. I could drive and buy some double sided sticky pads or something.

Advise ploz

>>59537426
This was not sideways in my gallery. Thanks phone.

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>>59537864

>>59537886
Seems like a nuclear option. Good luck with further maintenance with that lol

>>59537864
How did you even get a screen with no mounts? Also it looks scratched to shit?

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