hpg/ - Headphone General

Posting in fresh bread XDDDD

Can someone recommend me a good aux cable with the slimmest possible connector? I have a pair of Bang & Olufson H6's but its stock cable died and normal aux cable connectors are way too wide.

https://www.amazon.com/VOJO-Auxiliary-Uncoiled-Tangle-free-Connector/dp/B01N56KSL2/ref=pd_sim_23_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01N56KSL2&pd_rd_r=1BKTE51BMR86QK9MKC9H&pd_rd_w=7TOky&pd_rd_wg=bXMoN&psc=1&refRID=1BKTE51BMR86QK9MKC9H

This is the only one I've found with a connector smaller than 6.25mm in diameter, but the reviews are scaring me off a bit. The only reason I need a new one is because the last one was bad.

Preferably a coiled cable too btw.

Hi I'm looking for a new headphones for my cool meme iPhone 4 because they are melting apart. These are the second headphones I buy for the iPhone. They cost me like 20€ if I rememeber it well. They are the official ones.

I don't know which materials Apple use to make the cables for the headphones and for the power cable but they break apart alone in 2 years.

I also bought a second official power cable and it is breaking apart as well. I have it fix with tape for the wires don't go out.

Apple accesories are shitty as hell.

>>59501046
MAKI

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>>59500796
Thanks for the EQ Advice, anon. They sound a lot better now.

>>59501248
Play around with the filter width "Q". That's the part where the parametric equalizer really is powerful. You need very little filters to fix that response. Perhaps two is enough for bass already so long as you use correctly sized filters.

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>>59501219
>MAKI

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>>59501046
umi recommends HD600.

>https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
>Lossless formats
>It's true enough that a properly encoded Ogg file (or MP3, or AAC file) will be indistinguishable from the original at a moderate bitrate.
>But what of badly encoded files?
>Twenty years ago, all mp3 encoders were really bad by today's standards. Plenty of these old, bad encoders are still in use, presumably because the licenses are cheaper and most people can't tell or don't care about the difference anyway. Why would any company spend money to fix what it's completely unaware is broken?
>Moving to a newer format like Vorbis or AAC doesn't necessarily help. For example, many companies and individuals used (and still use) FFmpeg's very-low-quality built-in Vorbis encoder because it was the default in FFmpeg and they were unaware how bad it was. AAC has an even longer history of widely-deployed, low-quality encoders; all mainstream lossy formats do.
>Lossless formats like FLAC avoid any possibility of damaging audio fidelity [23] with a poor quality lossy encoder, or even by a good lossy encoder used incorrectly.
>A second reason to distribute lossless formats is to avoid generational loss. Each reencode or transcode loses more data; even if the first encoding is transparent, it's very possible the second will have audible artifacts. This matters to anyone who might want to remix or sample from downloads. It especially matters to us codec researchers; we need clean audio to work with.

Inderasting...

>>59501350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S12PK8I6rrw

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>>59501046
Maki wears Grado though.

>>59501467
>shit girl uses shitphones
Sasuga

>>59501438
AC-3 patents expired yesterday.
by the end of 2017, ALL mp3 patents will expire.

RIP Opus.

>>59501467
that's unofficial fanart.

OP pic are offical Maki headphones from Panasonic.

>>59501318
Aight, thanks; I'll update whenever.

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What headphones do you recommend the most for extensive Insane Clown Posse listening?

>>59501525
All these formats are garbage.

OPUS isn't just free, it puts everything else to shame.

Not that I care, I don't stream music. I have a proper FLAC collection.

> finally get comply tips for earphones
Holy fuck everything sounds better. Why did nobody tell me about this

Hello /g/ents, need some advice for headphones for the wife. She likes the beats solo 3, but I'm not a big fan of them. Is there anything like them in terms of folding, has case, wireless, and nice colors?

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>>59501542
>>59501318
Got the bass smoothed out, graph looks pretty good now

Has this happened to anyone else:
Buy DT880
after 1 week: turn bass on home hifi system to 9:00 o'clock
after several months: turn bass on home hifi system to minimum

>>59501608
And of course better quality build and sound. The aesthetics are obviously second to quality. Portability is key since she travels a lot. Not interested In in ear

>>59501541
>Panasonic
Actually they're from Pioneer.

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>>59501751
>after several months: turn bass on home hifi system to minimum
That's what everyone does. No one really likes or wants bass-heavy headphones. Your next step should be to sell them and buy natural sounding headphones.

I have a theory that retards who use IEMs and can't get any bass with them because they don't know how ot seal them properly end up byuing bass-heavy headphones and then regret it.

>>59501761
Sony h.ear on Wireless NC?

About to buy some DT770's, are they hpg approved?

>>59501949
No one in /hpg/ accepts anything other than "neutral" headphones. Just go with the sound signature you prefer; whether it's nigger bass, v-shaped, or "neutral".

>>59501949
Only if you're a DJ.

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How do I succeed at beating "the final boss of headphone quest" and acquire them for cheap? I don't have the money to buy them new. Ebay auctions are always within $50 of retail (which is insane). How do I do it?

>>59501949
I'm ok with it, Isolates well and is very comfortable, if you like v-shapped signature you will enjoy it very much.

>>59502022
Buy fulfilled from amazon. wait till after 8pm the day after delivery, call in, say you'd like to know why your headphones are taking so long to get to you

???
free hd600

>>59502022
If you can't save enough for these, there's problems with your life you gotta solve as a priority. Getting them HD600, as awesome as they are, can wait.

Stop listening to music, start getting shit done.

>>59502064
I don't like cheating/stealing etc. If I did that, I wouldn't be able to sleep right for weeks.

>>59502087
I'm a college student. No time to make money right now.

>>59502113
Morals are expensive.

What is a good solution to leaving multiple pairs of headphones plugged into the same source and pressing a button to switch between them?

Also opinion on graphic equalizers? I know it's probably exactly the same thing as software but I feel like not only would a hardware one look awesome on your desk but you(i) would be much more likely to actually use it if it's right infront of me.

>>59502132
I know. But it works out in the long run.. I think. I just don't have the personality to do it. I know that I would be stressed the fuck out for weeks/months because of it.

>>59501549
beats by dre

>>59501161
walk into any Apple store, see the Genius, and you'll walk out with brand new ones. I've done it so many times with apple accessories.

>>59502173
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sennheiser-HD-600-Headband-Headphones-Black-/232273044018?hash=item36148d6232:g:zbYAAOSw2gxYyqie

I mean they're $50 off. It's not going to get much better than that for a high demand item.

>>59501835
I think my posting was a bit ambiguous.
The headphones are fine, it's just the speakers on my home hifi system (when I listen w/o headphones) who are to bass heavy.
Thanks for that slides though.

>>59502240
>I mean they're $50 off. It's not going to get much better than that for a high demand item.
Right. Theyr'e always like that... just $50 shy of retail yet they're used. :(

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poorfag here, can someone recommend me a decent pair of headphones with clear audio for around $20?

>>59502308
Buy something more entry level, wait until you are set to get the better ones. There are great options for under 200$

>>59502391
Try looking at >>>/g/csg

>>59502391
>>>/g/csg and look at the infographic.

ps: we really need to send all these <$80 requests to /csg/.. that needs to go into the OP.

>>59502404
>>59502430
>>59502443
ok, thank you for the help

>>59502443
This is /hpg/, anon. Budget headphones are allowed.

Is it really necessary to buy "better" cables for the HD 600s or is this audiophile crystal tube placebo?

>>59502022
Don't buy it?
There are at least a few people who love it to bits, and other who do not. It is not remotely perfect, but it is an easy suggestion because it at least sets a baseline.
Head-Fi specializes more in these headphone sales sort of things, along with Slickdeals. If you aren't going to buy something right away, may as well set up an account there and wait for something to show up.

>>59502162
>Also opinion on graphic equalizers?
Strictly less functional than a parametric equalizer.
There are plenty of people who seem to lack competence with either, and the parametric gives them more ability to mess around with things they don't understand.

>>59502443
>infographic
kek

>>59502510
>Cables
You don't want to go there. There's no hope if you start obsessing over cables.

Unless they're tens of meters long or outright broken, you shouldn't even be thinking about cables.

>>59502064
But the tracking will say it went to my house. Am I supposed to convince them someone stole it? Would they even cover it? Wont they just send another instead of refunding me? WOuldnt the refund only be amazon bux? How much of a hassle is this /biz/?

>>59502408
Dont make this mistake of constantly upgrading youll just spend more money than you'd like and have a bunch of shitty headphones you dont use. Just wait.

>>59502463
yvw
>>59502499
sure, but we're not experts on it.
>>59502556
it's actually quite good. if you're looking for cheap shit, that infographic will tell you all the pros and cons of stuff... including headphones.

>>59502634
Having one pair of sub 200 headphones untill you can grow into more expensive ones isn't bad advice.

>>59502597
No, all the convincing required is asking why the package is late when tracking shows delivered. If it's fufilled by amazon but not sold by they give you cash. If it's sold by amazon they offer a refund but you can ask for a refund instead. It's a 5 minute phone call.

>>59502634
>Dont make this mistake of constantly upgrading youll just spend more money than you'd like and have a bunch of shitty headphones you dont use. Just wait.
Right. I'm done buying shit. I spent hundreds of dollars on garbage headphoens so far and I won't buy another pair if it's not hd600. I guess I'll keep saving.

>>59502676
I-Im gonna do it!

>>59502648
Theres really an infographic? They finally got around to adding something besides "buy xiaomi"?

>>59502724
look for v2. it's excellent.

Asking in new thread.

Are there any open back headphone alternatives around the same price as the m40x?

I just got these for around $100 but i'm sending them back.

>>59502957
Sennheiser HD 558's are on sale at Best Buy for $70 at the moment

>>59502957
SHP9500S, HD 558, OB-1; take a look at each one, they're all around the same price.

>>59501046
Dear /hpg/ I humbly request your help. I know next to nothing about headphones but am in dire need for a pair with the following features:
Noise cancellation (or great isolation);
Detachable wiring;
Wireless (if at all possible over bluetooth);

I don't have a budget.
Thanks for any help.

>>59502978
>>59503017
How are the HD 598se relative to the HD 558? I'm looking at those instead.

I used these m40x but I realized there wasnt really a point for me to get closed headphones. I can probably just get some earbuds to use when i'm away from home if I don't want to disturb anyone, but at night in my place it's very quiet and there's no reason for me to be sacrificing the sound stage by not going open.

I'm also not going to be carrying $100+ headphones to my university or anywhere else for that matter.

>>59503142
Better build quality, comfier, more detailed, more neutral. The only thing the HD 558s have going for it is more bass.

>>59503142
in addition to what >>59503187 said, you can remove a piece of foam in the 558 cups to sound like 598's

What are the go- to brands for cheap earbuds?

>>59503122
I'd go for HD 4.40 BT Wireless. Fits all your categories. It doesn't have active noise cancellation but it isolates well because it's built well. Unless you're worried about construction noise, it will do you well.

>>59503187
>>59503208
So I suppose if I wanted to truly stick around the same price range I should go 558's then?

I wanted a good pair of sub $150 headphones to learn audio before jumping into the $300+ price range. I wanted a single pair to last me until then.

>>59503208
Somewhat? Removing the foam just frees the HD 558s from any bloated bass possibly drowning anything out. Bass is kind of meh in these headphones.

>>59503241

Thanks, I'll check them out and likely buy some tomorrow. Any alternatives in case this doesn't work out?

Good noise cancellation is about the most important thing here (I work a lot at a noisy campus).

>>59502510
>"better" cables
You know when you're inside the phone it's a shitty little cable connecting things to the drivers.

Don't waste a cent on cables, any properly insulated and wound cable will be fine.

>>59503506
I don't understand people going all autistic on cables and not pads. Pads play a much bigger role in how they shape a sound and its also easily measured.

Would leather pads change much of the sound of a DT880?

>>59503589
>leather
More bass, I would imagine.

>>59503449
>Good noise cancellation is about the most important thing here (I work a lot at a noisy campus).
you won't hear a thing when you have them on.

>Budget
Under $300 CAD; cheaper is always better.

>Location
Canada

>Source
Primary: PC->Xonar Essence STX->Yamaha A-S500 1/4"

>Type of headphone
Circumaural

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
HD280 Pro were comfortable enough.

>Sound signature
Neutral to bright

>Past headphones
HD280 Pro (good overall, but cable failed after several years)
HD555 (good overall, but not great)
Q460 (uncomfortable, too warm sound)
Q701 (amazing soundstage, very lifelike sound, numerous plastic bits failed over several years)

ALSO ESSENTIAL: detachable cable.

Primarily considering HD598C or ATH-M40X right now, interested if anyone has a suggestion between those two or perhaps some other recommendation.

>>59503636
If you dislike coloured and muddy sound, forget about the HD 598 Cs. They're nothing like their open-backed version.

>>59503575
>Pads play a much bigger role in how they shape a sound and its also easily measured.
Ironic isn't it?

>>59503449
>Good noise cancellation is about the most important thing here (I work a lot at a noisy campus).
Get the Bose QC25

Alright, /g/, I'm not huge on audio, but I know the basics.

After 4 years of abuse, the Jack on my M50s broke. I replaced it like 3 times and I keep buying shitty jacks from different sources and they just break within minutes.

Following the OP guide:
>250-300USD budget
>Canadian
>I need full sized.
>Closed back is probably a must, I use the subway a lot, it makes noise, can't hear shit with the cheap earbuds I'm stuck with now.
>I'd like them to be comfortable, since I wear them for hours upon hours, but I can deal with them being a tad uncomfortable after a few hours.
>Honestly, I dunno. either neutral, or lightly v-shaped.
>I had M50s forever, nothing I hated about them except I worn the pads down so much they got uncomfortable as hell after like half an hour.

As another note, Durability is a must. I'll be wearing them fucking everywhere all the time, don't want the hinges to break on me after a month.

>>59503719
DT770

>>59503719
ATH-MSR7NC

>>59503719
seconding MSR7NC

Alright, so my computer is not recognizing my modmic, and it produces a hissing sound in my headphones whenever it is in the jack. What do you recommend i do? Its a modmic 4.0 omni directional with mute

>>59503962
>>59504014
Are they basically just the M50s but better?
I'm essentially looking for "One notch above" what I had.

>>59503241
Actually what about the HD 4.50 BTNC?

>>59504135
Excellent as well. $50 extra though. If you can afford the increase, go for it!

>>59503719
>>I had M50s forever, nothing I hated about them except I worn the pads down so much they got uncomfortable as hell after like half an hour.
Why don't you just buy new earpads for them for $20 on ebay or amazon? They'll feel like new and you won't have to adjust to new sounding cans.

>>59504176
Because I broke the cans.

>>59501699
>>59501248
how the hell can you stand the 668b without tanking the highs. I used felt dampers on mine and I still eq-d down the highs. btw, I think it was you in the last thread asking, if you like the 668b you will like akg. k701 or 702, 712 if you want more bass. if you wanna be cheap get the k7xx. k612 is great but needs an amp and you might find them really thin sounding.

>>59504099
>Better build quality
>Comfier fit
>Noise cancelling

They are a bit coloured compared to the M50s, though. Alternatively, you can take a look at PXC 480s.

>>59504099
They sound similar except tighter bass and more clarity; better treble. They are an improvement.

>>59504096
Can you plug the modmic on another jack that's not beside the headphone jack? Sometimes it's just interference from having both side by side.

>>59504222
i will try. The particular jack i have it in right now is on my tower, so i'll see if it can fit on my actual motherboard

>>59504209
Is the noise cancelling really worth it? Looks like a pretty huge price gap between the regular and NC versions.

>>59504147
I'll kill myself if I have to stand any more bs from the other codemonkeys, I don't care how much I need to spend.

>>59504264
LOL! Go get them then. They're a steal at $200. Bose sells shittier pairs for $350.

>>59504284
Nobody is selling them 0_o

>>59504258
Unless if you are constantly being surrounded with noise, I would grab the regular pair. My workplace can get damn noisy sometimes, and when that happens, it always helps to block out some of the noise.

>>59504303
okay, well looks like the nc ones don't ship till april anyways.

>>59504303
I mean, apart from the subway, which I combat by just fucking up my eardrums and raising the volume, I think I'm good.

Thanks a ton for the advice, desu. Glad I went to /g/ before making decisions, some fuck tried to sell me Focal Spirit Pros at a good price, but those fuckers are gonna break in like a month.

>>59504209
>They are a bit coloured compared to the M50s, though.

Aren't the M50's colored?
I thought the MSR7 was more neutral?

>>59504300
amazon.

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>>59501949
if you like v-shaped, yes. it's a much better buy than the m50 anyways.

>>59502022
get an hd580. they rarely pop up on ebay but when they do they can be half the price of an hd600.

>>59503636
>HD598C or ATH-M40X
if you've already owned the q701 you should be aiming higher than those. get an msr7. though if you can't afford that the m40x would be best. though, ever tried a v6?

>>59504209
>They are a bit coloured compared to the M50s
no. the msr7 is on the bright side of neutral compared to the m50. it sounds closer to the m40.

>>59503719
if you want a better m50 just get a dt770

>>59504329
>>59504355
Sorry, I must have been thinking of another pair.

>>59504328
I'd be pretty worried the hinges if I got them.

The standard MSR7 doesn't block out noise too well. I would recommend the noise cancelling model if it can be had for a decent price.

>>59504199
Yeah, that was me. I'll probably grab K712/K7XX or Q701's. The highs sound fine to me but then again my hearing just dropped to 17Khz max earlier today.

>>59504355
Never tried the V6 - was considering that as well except that the cable isn't detachable. The MSR7 looks like a nice choice that I hadn't considered.

While I loved the sound from the Q701, part of my concern in purchasing new phones is that the vast majority of the "quality" in higher end headphones (basically anything over $150) comes more from the natural sound of the headphone (and individual preference thereto) rather than the physical capabilities of the design. IE: most anything above a fairly modest threshold can sound good to almost anyone when combined with a capable source and adjusted EQ.

From reviews and frequency response charts, I would say I could get a good idea of which headphones I would prefer listening to with a raw source, but I don't think that necessarily makes an extra $200+ worth it if it just means skipping the EQ.

If I bought the M40X for example, I expect I could reasonably level it off with some basic EQ and still get fairly outstanding sound overall.

>>59504355
Okay, what if I don't necessairly want M50s but better, and instead want better than m50s, DT770 still a good pick?

>>59504520
DT770s are pretty v-shaped. They have even more bass and treble, so take what you will. I don't think they will fit into your category of lightly v-shaped, but maybe they will.

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>>59504520
well what I meant by that was signature, the dt770 is a good v-shaped headphone, so you would probably like it. but are you ok with switching up the signature. with most people it's easiest to recommend based on what they already know. but if you think you know the kind of sound you want I could recommend other stuff, I just don't want to give you something you don't like. coming from m50s you will probably find a lot of "audiophile" headphones to be lacking in bass/thin sounding. that puts a lot of newbies off which is why it's sometimes bad to recommend things like a 598 to someone who has only heard beats.

>>59504519
eh, I'm of the heretical opinion that FR isn't everything and that EQ can't do everything. there are qualities of sound that you get from "better" headphones that are worth more than just not having to use eq as much. things like bass impact, extension, even and detailed mids, "airy" highs and such. but that's all just my opinion based on owning a lot of headphones and eq'ing them all towards neutral. I still find myself switching a lot deepening on my mood because they still sound significantly different after eq to my ears. as for build, it's all over the place. some cheap headphones are tanks, some expensive ones are like glass. you just have to know the tough ones. dt770, x2, v6, are all pretty damn tough. sennehisers look like they would break but they can stand drops and such because of the design having more "play" and less weak pressure points than other headphones.

>>59504504
my only gripe with the k7xx is that on many measurements it just seems less even overall than other AKGs. in the highs and upper mids especially. the k712 is already less even than the q701 and k702, but you gain bass as a trade off.

>>59504686
Well, that's kind of the deal. I'm not necessairly looking for "More V-shape". Like, I see where you're coming from, I'd definitely not be super huge on going from M50 to a completely flat signature, but I'm not some bass zombie who bitches because my eardrums are still intact after listening to a 20Hz tone or something.

770s do look appealing, though.

>>59504686
Fair points. Durability is always a concern - I am ok spending $300+ on headphones if I will get 5 good years out of them, but I am pretty hard on headphones so that can be asking a lot. I frequently drop them off my desk, pull on the cable, or roll over long cables with my chair.

I am leaning towards the M40X right now, but the MSR7 is quite tempting; I'm just not sure if it will be worth double the price in practice.

I am going to sleep on it for tonight and order something tomorrow.

>>59501046
What does /hpg/ think of the ATH A900X? Is it bette rthan Senheiser phones?

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>>59504594
o/

The largest eartips for my iems aren't big enough. What do I do now?

>>59504867
Buy larger eartips?

>>59504795
>What does /hpg/ think of the ATH A900X?
They're OK for closed cans but the issue is that they don't isolate well so what's the point of getting closed back cans?

>Is it bette rthan Senheiser phones?
Apples and oranges. You have to compare individual models.

>>59504750
you would probably love the X2 but it's open and expensive. might like the dt880 as well, brighter than the X2 but still "mildly v-shaped". problem is there are not that many mildly v-shaped headphones on the market. in my experience it's easier to buy something v-shaped and good and then lowering the bass and highs some with eq to where you like it. that way it's not totally overpowering or harsh but you still get that added oomph of pressure. that's what I do with my X2. so you can get the dt770 and lower the peaks. when it comes to bass, reduction usually works better than addition when it comes to impact. anyone who has tried to make something like the 598 bassy has experienced this.

>>59504795
you should know that bigger pads help a good but with comfort and adding some bass impact. I use pleather srh-840 pads on my m40x. you should get them off amazon and then if you don't like them, return them and move up.

>>59504795
all the ATH-A line are bass roll-offy last I looked, could be wrong. but considering that, I don't see why you would buy anything in that line over a 598.

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>>59504867
buy foams

Does anybody have experience with pairing HD800 or HD800S with a a Lyr 2? I'm seeing that the HD800 line is very picky about amps, how much snake oil is there to this?

Currently have AKG 7XXs and LCD-2 running with Modi 2 & Lyr 2.

>>59504928
>bass roll-offy
what

>>59504928
If you're talking about the Philips X2, then that's right in my price point, but you're right, open back is pain. I don't have the budget to have a pair for indoors and a pair for out and it's starting to really kill me

How do you feel about buying headphones on ebay?

I've bought tons of music equipment off it, but never headphones.
Good idea, or do headphones not age as well?

Bought an X2, I can now hear my on board audio be shit. I don't have an amp or dac yet.

Should my first baby steps into this territory be a Fulla 2, fiio e10k, smsl m3, or something else entirely? Like the V-sound and I would like not to go over $100.

>>59505017
what kind of music equipment have you bought?

>>59504980
sorry I was thinking of the wrong product codes. but still, looking now, the un-evenness in the bass and highs just seems too much for the price. many have huge upper mid/treble dips too. honestly the last ATH big headphone that looked interesting to me was the r70x.

>>59505035
Guitars, amps, effects, etc.
Never had any issues.

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>buy HD600
>ordered on friday
>"'2 day shipping"
>didn't ship until today

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IdolM@asters

>>59505109
ppl don't work on weekends you imbecile. are you 12?

>>59505127
I ordered 2 amps along with it and they both shipped, with one coming today.

>>59505017
I think it's great. it's allowed my to afford headphones that would have been way out of my budget. I have an hd600, X2, mad dog, q701 and a bunch of other stuff because of ebay. if I had to pay msrp I would only be able to afford half the headphones I own.

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My AKG K712 Pro driver broke and I'm thinking about four scenarios:

1 - Buy another AKG K712 Pro
2 - Buy spare parts for the AKG K712 Pro and repair it
3 - Buy a HD 600
4 - Buy a ATH-R70X

(Note: All open, I prefer opens)

For me I prioritise:

a) Neutral audio, low THD
b) Comfort for long periods of listening
c) Construction quality

What should I do? Also do you have another suggestion? I'm willing to spend but I'm not an audiophool so wouldn't overspend (e.g HD800 is a joke).

>>59505200
>I ordered 2 amps
Is one a portable amp or something?

>>59505017
I bought a pair of xl urbanites for $38 and sr-60e's for $52, I think it's a great idea.

>>59505340
>3 - Buy a HD 600
thats your best option. rest is just junk or waste of money. just do it and be done with it.

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Fight me.

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>>59504945
>400-500 USD
This is why I hate the Samurai more than the Jew

>>59505362
>>59505282
>tfw you've always paid price for new

Luckily I only have a couple of sub $100 headphones, but I'll definitely get the next pair off ebay, thanks.

>>59504686
>FR isn't everything
Sure.
>that EQ can't do everything
It generally doesn't even fix the FR absolutely.
I find that people who likely to say this aren't very handy with a parametric EQ.
>bass impact, extension, even and detailed mids, "airy" highs
Those are descriptors for equalizing certain frequency ranges.

>>59498041
Low end rolloff is not an issue for the Mad Dog. The top end still has a hard wall cut to it.

>>59504950
>pairing HD800 or HD800S with a a Lyr 2
Sounds the same as ever.
>how much snake oil is there to this
If you're looking for stuff outside the frequency response and the output impedance that affects that, you're looking for a mess.

Just bought a pair of lightly used 558's on eBay free ship for $50. Seller was an audiophile who upgraded to the HD 600s.

Did I do gud?

>>59505411
>rest is just junk or waste of money. just do it and be done with it.
How come, doesn't the ATH-R70X sound just as good?

>>59505436
>Did I do gud? Anonymous 03/21/17(Tue)00:35:27 No.59505440>>59505411(You)
>>rest is just junk or waste of money. just do it and be done with it.
>How come, doesn't the ATH-R70X sound just as good?
thats a steal. well done.

>>59505440
>How come, doesn't the ATH-R70X sound just as good?
as good as HD600? not even close. ATH-R70X is very harsh in treble.

>>59505447
>oops

>>59505411
>>59505340
>Construction quality

Are you sure, you silly goose? Joking aside, I also agree with you, but you sure are aggressive when it comes to recommending known for snapping under pressure.

>>59505423
Ebay is really friendly toward buyers, so it's very hard to get screwed over.

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>>59505475
SHP9500 is still shit. Stay poor & stay mad.

>>59505475
>snapping under pressure
Did they fix this or are they still Snappheisers?

I heard the ATH-R70X has better construction quality. Seems small though, not sure if it would be comfortable. The AKG K712Pro fit my head perfectly...

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>>59505499
Gotta stay on topic, you silly anime poster.

>>59505510
The HD 600s and HD 650s are still made with chink shit that snaps when you try to bend them. They did fix the cracking with their HD 500s though.

And yes, the ATH-R70Xs does have a significantly better build quality.

>>59505340
>Buy spare parts for the AKG K712 Pro and repair it
Why would this not be the first option?

>better construction quality
More metal to the frame, less Sennplastic fantastic. R70X can be a little rough in the finishing. Has the wing system to it, certainly easier than the Clampheiser feel.

>>59505420
I mean, modern denon is just a joke. buy a CAL for 50 and you will wonder why some people spend hundreds for muh bassy closed headphone.

>>59505544
>Why would this not be the first option?
A little risky because I'd fix it myself, potentially just wasting spare parts. I think the driver itself works its just that the internal connection must have come loose and its impossible to open (thus dead). Its so fragile...

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>>59505534
>Gotta stay on topic, you silly anime poster.
why are you on an anime site if you hate anime? consider suicide.

>>59505582
>This exchange again

You do have 3 whole boards dedicated to you, posters. I don't think you understand what you're taking for granted, anon.

Now off you go; shoo, shoo, silly goose.

>>>/a/

>>59501046
Maki you have good taste in headphones!

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>>59505565
I have no clue what that means, in fact, I'm not sure why I clicked on this thread. I just hate the cost of Anime shit.
On that note, this is my headset

>>59505636
>3 boards
Which 3?

>>59505031
Whichever one has the features or looks you want, they all sound the same.

>>59505671
>>>/a/
>>>/c/
>>>/w/

>>59505582
>>59505623
Can you guys take the argument elsewhere

>>59505700
>On an a website with no usernames

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>>59505691
>2 of them are covered in cancer
>one just happens to not exclude anime because /a/ doesn't want wallpaper threads
I crosspost whenever and wherever I want

>>59505720
kek

>>59505723
>Anime posters are cancerous
I guess you're right, anon. Do as you wish, I never had any power on you from the beginning anyway.

Looking to get some 150-200$ headphones (first time), thinking about the 598 or 598cs what's the difference between the two, also what's the difference between over ear and closed back, and i listen to all types of music so if you think my choice is shit please recommend me something else in the same price range

>>59505753
AKG K612's are nice though need an amp. 598's aren't bad for an all arounder and can be driven fine off onboard though sound better on an amp as well.

>>59505753
The only thing they have in common are with their names. The Cs' are coloured and muddy as fuck, while the open-backed version is not. Just do yourself a favour and forget Sennheiser has even made them the Cs'; they're absolute shit. Get the 598s, forget about the 598 Cs'.

>>59505753
Closed means that the cups don't have an opening on the back of them. Open is the opposite which gives them an airier sound at the cost of letting all outside noise in and all noise coming from the headphones out.
The 598cs are closed back versions of the 598 but overall shittier, open/closed designs aside. They only share name and design, everything else, most importantly the drivers and materials for the earpads. If you want an open headphone the 598's are a fine choice in that price range, look for something else if you want closed.

>>59505748
>admitting defeat
That's all I ever wanted anon

Anyways, what's most important in Headphones?

>>59505807
*the drivers and materials for the earpads are different

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>>59505810
Comfort.

They can sound like angels singing but if they make my ears sweat or are too tight they can fuck right off.

>>59505810
I would argue comfort and sound quality. Wouldn't want headphones that feel like bricks squeezed between your head, nor would you want headphones that make your ears bleed.

>>59505840
I would welcome pain if I could listen to angels singing in the highest quality.

>>59505578
It's still a busted side, whatever the reason. If you get another headphone, it's just going to sit there.
May as well open it up to be sure.

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>>59505840
>>59505848
>comfort
That's what I was going to say, but I thought I'd get laughed right the fuck out of here.

Good to know.

my last pair of headphones were literally the worst I've ever owned in that regard. Current ones are the comfiest I've ever had.

>>59505887
Headphones, anon? I'd like to know.

>>59505753
I would suggest neither. The 558 as a substitute for the 598, as it is mostly the same if you really want to go that route.

There are some other options to choose from

>SHP9500S
>NVX XPT100/Brainwavz HM5/etc.
>MDR-V6/7506
>M40x
>DT770 and Custom Pro
>HD 25

The list can go on, can you elaborate more on something, how and where you plan on using these things?

>>59505887
Silly anon, no one really laughs at anything here. Just the same few anons arguing about the same couple purchases.

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>>59505578
AKGs are easy to disassemble, trickiest part probably being removing that small center grill/cap. Most of the 'driver failures' I've seen with AKG k6/7-series are just a bad/broken solder joint.

>>59505934
most likely on my laptop at home, i don't like wearing headphones outside i don't really like the isolation when im outside, but i love it when chilling at home, also how do i make a decision of that list it's kinda alot and i dont know much about headphones since it's i'm about to have my first experience

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>>59505914
>Headphones, anon? I'd like to know.
Take into consideration that my HP history is pathetic but it's these >>59505671 Had them for nearly 22 months now.

There may be more comfy or better sounding, but I haven't gotten into the whole headphone scene.

Only real problem with them is the giant fucking X logo on the sides

>>59505957
The center bit was easy enough. I fixed mine 3 times. The reason it kept breaking was the mini-XLR connector was jammed and wouldn't be released no matter how much you pulled on it and presed the little button. The wires used on the inside looked REALLY cheap.

If you're a poor fag Monoprice DJ Premiums, they're 5 bucks, come with an extra cable, and the 50mm drivers they use are excellent. It uses proper insulated cables inside and especially if you get their white pads they're actually pretty comfortable. I use them for as feeder headphones for their drivers but even on their own they'll hold their own against cans 4x their price.

>>59506024
correction $15, I am a trash typist while drinking

>>59505807
i used to use g930 for gaming, type wise im looking for something similiar are these open or closed? didn't quite understand the concept yet

>>59505965
We can probably cross off the m40x, 7506/V6, and HD 25. Smaller headphones that are somewhat more portable friendly at the potential cost of comfort.

That leaves somewhat larger open (HD 558 and SHP9500S) and some closed options (XPT100/variants, DT 770, and the Custom One).
Sleepy now.

>>59506249
558 > 598s ?

>>59506340
If you're comfortable with doing the foam mod, yes. If not, just get 598's.

>>59506367
foam mod?

>>59506425
There's a piece of foam covering the vent in the cup. Take that out and the bass isnt muddy anymore and maybe a slight reduction of bass because of it.

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>>59505534
Who the fuck would you try to bend the plastic headband instead of the metal clips on their HD 600/650? You'd have to be an absolute madman.

>Budget
100-200
>Location
Australia
>Source
Android
>Type of headphone
IEMs
>Comfort level
I don't mind then on the uncomfy side if they sound better
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Those nasty ones you get with Samsung phones

I need them to have a sturdy cable too.

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what etymotic should I get? I like a warm sig and I don't want to spend a fuckton.

>>59506843
I highly recommend this
http://www.head-fi.org/products/lz-a4
This is a good price:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/839952/lz-a4
I messaged this guy because i was about to buy them - he said he would charge 165USD including shipping to Australia. It's a bit over your budget but you should consider it. I can give him a heads-up if you decide to get it so he give you the same 165 USD deal.

>>59505753
the cs is a closed 598. I honestly don't know why they even exist. the driver in the 598 and the overall design is supposed to be as open as possible. and sennheiser already had a gimped and muffled 598 in the form of the 558. I bet they bet on ignorant people buying into the 598 name, IE "it's 598 but closed!" because normies prefer closed headphones, even though making it closed destroyed it.

>>59502510
In terms of sound quality? Fuck no. Though the stock cable is kinda shitty feeling and annoying, so you may want to get a different cable simply made of better material. Make your own though. Buying third party is expensive.

>>59506911
HF5

>>59505200
Which amps did you order?

>>59505413
So many headphones...

Yet you haven't listened to binetsu kara mystery's umi, rin, nozomi wonderful voices on proper HD600.

I pity you.

Also, datte datte aa mujou and mirai hana are much better songs :p

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>>59507839
thank you my negro

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really makes me think

>>59509090
See already sold ones in ebay.

Prices there tend to reflect actual value closer.

Any aussies up? Where do you guys order your stuff from?

Is this a good combo

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003JOETX8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490098047&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=superlux&dpPl=1&dpID=41FFiTWfuxL&ref=plSrch

With this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00029MTMQ/ref=pd_aw_fbt_23_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FXV55CH37VENF1H75FWJ#nav-search-keywords

Or this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01D4HTIOY/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1490098335&sr=8-14&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=mic

For gaming?

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>Budget
sub €100. More if it's really worth it.

>Location
The Netherlands

>Source
Sansa Clip+ and laptop at work

>Type of headphone
Earbuds with a tip like in the picture.

>Comfort level
Can't stand regular in-ear things so I'm looking for something like these

>Sound signature
I don't expect any bass with earbuds like these. Anything neutral is good enough

>Past headphones
Sony MDR-V6 + aftermarket pads. Comfy af. Got them years ago thanks to these threads. Also the reason why I come here again.
These Samsung earbuds that came with the S7.

>Other
Would love to have a mic + volume control. I use my S7 buds for Skype calls now and then.
________________________

So far I found the Bose SoundSport (€100) and the Sennheiser MX 686G Sports (€50). I want to know if there are any other alternatives.
I have already tried about 4 or 5 in-ear earbuds and I never liked them. Then I got my Samsung S7 last summer I got these (pic related) in the box and I really like those. Now I'm just looking for something better.
The Sennheiser is pretty ugly in lime green and Bose is always regarded as overpriced and 'muh brand' but I don't really know how to look for these kind of earbuds to find not so well know options.

>>59509449
You're not gonna get much better on that tight oof a budget, just keep in mind: quality will be determined by your Motherboard, especially the microphone

>>59509459
Budget is <$80. Mobo is Z270 msi pro

>>59509459
Which mic is better for gaming?

>>59509471
I can't really comment on your specific motherboad; but just keep in mind you might have to buy one of those little USB/DAC things

I use this one for my Mod Mic 5, works pretty well https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External-Adapter-Windows-AU-MMSA/dp/B00IRVQ0F8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1490101691&sr=8-5&keywords=usb+dac

>>59509491
https://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FXV55CH37VENF1H75FWJ&ref_=pd_aw_fbt_23_3#nav-search-keywords

This one if we're specifically talking about "gaming", as in co-coordinating with friends over Skype or whatever, without a boom arm all your friends will hear when you touch the desk or do anything that causes vibrations, it'll just sound like you're slamming the desk all the time

>>59509503
I'm pretty noobish when it comes to headphones but what's the use of that adapter?
I'm just looking for headset and mic I don't care if separate or not, I just want something inexpensive with good quality to talk in multiplayer games etc.

>>59509556
Basically what that adapter tries to do it eliminate interference from your PC

For example, without the adapter my Mic sounds awful, I'm extremely quiet and there's a lot of buzzing

Once I plug my mic into the adapter, my voice is a lot louder, clearer, and there's a hell of a lot less static

I'm going to tell you right now though, if all you want is decent quality and ease of use; just get this

https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Gaming-Headset-KHX-H3CL-WR/dp/B00JJNQG98/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1490102245&sr=1-2&keywords=hyperx+cloud

>>59508281
No problem. It's the only warm sounding Ety along with the much more expensive ER-4P/PT which is basically identical sound wise.

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>>59509593
I don't mind having to do little work. Would I need that adapter for the Hyperx?
Pic related what made me consider other stuff

>>59509633
I *think* the the HyperX uses USB, but I'd have to double check. IF it does use USB then no, there's no need for the adapter.

>>59509860
I see. Thank you

>>59509860
Hyper X 1 (the only one that's worth getting), doesn't come with the USB adapter.

are these legit? i was just about to get them on amazon for more than a 100$ http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sennheiser-audiophile-over-the-ear-headphones-titan/1700513.p?skuId=1700513

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Name a better portable headphone for your money than Bang & Olufsen H6 2nd Generation?

Protip: you can't, don't even try

What makes noise canceling so bad?

>>59511245
It's bad?

>>59511382
Yes, obviously but exactly why are they bad? What makes them so bad other than them "just being bad"?

Anyone got any earbud guides? Mine broke and I don't really want to carry a set of headphones everywhere

>>59512274
By that I mean IEMs, I wasn't aware that earbuds and IEMs were called different names

Hey, I've always gotten turtle beaches because they actually go loud enough for me to get immersed in the music and have a cord long enough to dance to it.

Sadly, they are shitly made.

So when I'm looking for a new pair, what is the term or thing to look for the determines their loudness. I'm tired of getting 40-60$ headphones where the music gets no louder than a cheapo pair of earbuds.

>>59512581
Get an amp like the E10k or Fulla 2, and stay away from turtle beach.

Cheap earbuds should be able to get pretty loud, don't want to damage your hearing, anon.

>>59512618
Given that TB's on max volume and max PC volume isn't even loud anymore, 2l8 for that m8.

This my setup:

http://a.co/bKhGkIt
http://a.co/46FOwni
http://a.co/1EQE0k

>>59511712
If your sound is constantly changing to adapt to your environment, there is going to be some if only so slight impact on quality

>>59511712
>Yes, obviously
If you think that, you probably would already have an answer or two. But if you don't know why, how can you even have an opinion here?

They aren't universally bad any more so than headphones in general are. A common issue with active noise cancelling headphones compared to most other headphones is the self noise emitted by the active circuitry required for the ANC. The rest of the possible issues are shared with other headphones. Active circuitry blocks out continuous low frequency noise, sometimes effectively much more than a conventional passive sealed headphone would. Tradeoff is the battery operation and possible noise. With technology maturing these can likely be made insignificant or they might already be depending on your criteria.

Hi i was looking for some full size closed headphones around 150€. What shoud i pick? Also they need to be very comfortable.

>>59512939
DT770

I burnt in my dt990 250ohm last night and I'm just so happy with them. I just get off so hard on the way female vocals peak in trance on them. People hate but at $150 or so they are a god tier purchasae if it suits your taste.

Anyway my dragonfly black can drive them to exactly a comfortable listening level. i think that maybe some more power, even though I wouldn't play them louder than this would have a positive effect on the sq. Any good amps, JUST AMPS, not a dac, that can do 250ohm? Maybe like a tube amp to warm up the 990's just a tad?
How often would I have to replace the tubes?

>>59513103
>Burn in

>>59509450
ve monks or some shit is a meme in /csg/ and costs $6 or something, might as well try desu. It's not like there's that many options.

>>59513103
Just grab a Magni2(Uber) and EQ the bass

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>Budget
<100€

>Location
Germany

>Source
smartphone/computer

>Type of headphone
IEMs

>Comfort level - Would you be willing to accept less comfortable headphones if it meant better sound quality?
yes

>Sound signature
bassy/warm (not a high priority, sound quality more important)

>>59513151
No reason to not leave them playing overnight when you first get them. I think they only needed about 2 hours of it but yeah they sound so incredible.
>>59513481
I don't want to spend $100. The headphones were only $150 and the dac $60.

>>59501046
>Budget
$50 max
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone, Desktop soundcard
>Type of headphone
On ear
>Open or closed
whichever, so long as they don't leak audio
>Comfort level
moderate
>Sound signature
Bassy, balanced
>Past headphones
apple earbud things

I need something somewhat cheap and portable without them breaking near instantly, so something like portapros are a bit too brittle for me.
I'm no audiophile, but I want something that sound decent for the price. (at least better than anything apple's made)

I was linked to these
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001BEAI4W/
(Panasonic RP-HTX7)
and they look decent and not bad to be seen with outside, but i don't know how they sound and the durability of them
Are they good for a cheap pair of casual portable headphones?
What's better?

>>59513584
I mean thats kind of your fault for falling for the burn in meme and getting a dragonfly

>>59513625
>$50 max
>>>/g/csg and check infographics

>>59513103
> i think that maybe some more power, even though I wouldn't play them louder than this
You don't understand how that works. With more power they can potentially be louder. Unused power is nothing but waste, headroom.

>would have a positive effect on the sq
Only if there is something downright wrong with the setup now. More power doesn't have anything to do with SQ beyond volume.

>Any good amps, JUST AMPS, not a dac, that can do 250ohm?
Yes, every amplifier. I'm guessing you don't have a clue about impedance either as it does not tell how much power/voltage you need for driving headphones and on its own impedance is a spec you don't ever have to know. Anyway, higher impedance = easier to drive but high impedance headphones on the market tend to be on the lower side of sensitivity. This includes 250 ohm versions of the DT990.

Also DACs don't drive headphones or any load for that matter.

>Maybe like a tube amp to warm up the 990's just a tad?
Tube amplifiers aren't warm. Maybe a shitty one is.

>How often would I have to replace the tubes?
Thousands of hours if the tubes are good. You'll notice it.

You are having a problem related to frequency response so to fix it you have two options: an equalizer or a pair of headphones that suits your tastes better.

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do you guys talk about wireless headsets? someone recommend me some pairs if so.

>>59513813
There is no problem but thanks. The potential to play the headphones would be nice.
When I see people look for sources they generally just say the ohm rating for their headphones. Amps are even advertised that way. My dragonfly black says up to 150ohm, there is a creative amp that says up to 600ohm. If higher impedance is easier to drive why are the 600ohm 990s easier to drive than the 250ohm 990s?
>>59513875
She is perfection

>Budget
£100 max
>Location
Currently UK
>Source
Phone/laptop/occasional PS4
>Type of headphone
Prefereably IEM
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
comfy
>Sound signature
still haven't tried a lot
>Past headphones
Soundmagic E10s

Looking at ATH IM50, Sennheiser momentum IE2
Also kind of interested in cans, AKG y50 any good?

>>59513905
>She is perfection
That's a dude, my dude

>>59513968
Do not fuck with me like that you filthy nigger

>>59513945
Status CB-1/Somic MM185

>>59513584
>No reason to not leave them playing overnight when you first get them.

The reason not to is that burn in does nothing.

>>59513875
>When I see people look for sources they generally just say the ohm rating for their headphones.
And it's of very little use most of the time. Sometimes none.
>My dragonfly black says up to 150ohm
>there is a creative amp that says up to 600ohm
And plenty of other amps are advertised this way. I've been vocal about this before but I think this sort of spec sheet is part of the reason why people have such a warped conception of impedance and amplification.
>If higher impedance is easier to drive why are the 600ohm 990s easier to drive than the 250ohm 990s?
Less power draw due to lower load impedance presented to the amplifier. Amplifier being strained less, heats up less and distorts less. However the 600 ohm version here is less sensitive, roughly a 3dB drop at the same input voltage compared to the 250 ohm version. You will need an amplifier with larger voltage swing to drive it equally loud.

>>59501350
Who's the semon demon?

>>59514253
Satan-sama

>>59513393
Will do. Thanks

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What are the best headphones+amp I can get for $1.3k? I just got my income tax and want to treat myself.

Open of course, I live alone.

>>59515195
hd800 and schiit magni 2 uber will fit nicely into $1.3k..

X2 or K712?

>>59515372
Is that the absolute best or should I spend more?

>>59515448
If you want THE ABSOLUTE BEST, hunt down a set of Stax.

Are the Sennheiser HD 2.10/2.20 any good?
I mean for their price range, obviously.

>>59515469
How much do those go for?

>>59515372
>>59515469
back to head-fi

>>59514158
You're strictly and objectively wrong.

But lets say you're right. Burn in does nothing. I would still press the 2 keys on my keyboard required to leave them playing.

>>59515195
Focal elear and whatever dac/amp doesnt matter

>>59508032
I have and didn't like it.
>snapheiser

>>59515637
>You're strictly and objectively wrong.

How am I wrong? Is there any evidence that burn in does anything?

>>59502597
>Am I supposed to convince them someone stole it?
Years ago I bought an HD800 on amazon, amazon mentioned that due to the high price of the HD800, it requires signature upon delivery.

I come home from work one day and found my HD800 at my doorstep, brand new in box, everything's fine. But what if I could get it for FREE?

I went on amazon's customer service chat and reported that I hadn't gotten a delivery. They gave me $100 in amazon credit and immediately shipped another HD800 for me, which I sold on Craigslist afterwards.

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Most people and I personally think that 320kbps mp3 is sufficient . Currently bluetooth is dog shit for audio because it just straight sound bad. A new bluetooth codec called LDAC can deliver 990kbps audio bandwidth. Will this make wireless headphones passable?

Right now they are unjustifiable and ridiculous. It bothers me that my local best buy only sells one pair of wired headphones and they're the apple ones. Every single other headphone is wireless.

>>59515691
Lets assume you're right. It takes less effort than typing this reply to hit "play" before you go to bed. Even if it were a meme from 100 years ago, I'd do it.

>>59515735
I'm an autistic fuck and convert everything to MP3, even if it was originally FLAC or OGG or m4a.

>>59515837
I used to but now that sD cards are so crazy cheap that I don't even bother. I only have a 64gb one and true flacs of trance are hard-ish to find. I can fit my whole local library on it. A 128gb is like 40 bucks so even if it filled up, yeah.

Crazy to think if you took a little bag, like the ones IEMs come with and stuffed it with sd cards you could walk around with like 20tb of data.

>>59512939
DT770, HD380 Pro, HD569

>>59513103
Schiit Fulla 2, and use the line-in jack.

It also has a DAC, but you don't need to use it. Doesn't hurt to have it; That way, you can compare with your computer or whatever other source.

Pretty much, if your line-in source sounds different, it's shit. ;)

>>59515678
>snapheiser
Are you one of these idiots who try to stretch the plastic?

>>59515678
>I have and didn't like it.
no you didn't. quit lying.

>>59516841
>What is sound preference

>>59516883
Go to
>>59501835

>>59516944
Then go to
>>59502285

>>59516841
Haha, ok dude.
>doesnt have the bass extension of planar
>doesnt have the clarity and treble of akg
It's a good headphone, don't get me wrong. But it's like a jack of all trades, master of none.

>>59516972
?!

>>59517073
>bass extension
>clarity
Audiophile nonsense.

>>59517075
Almost like there's a limit and a preference, heh, anon?

>>59517090
>clarity
>Audiophile nonsense.
lol

>>59517090
I expect better out of my fellow idolfags. Get over your butthurt.

>>59517090
>Audiophile nonsense
>This damage control

>>59517113
So, who's your best idol?

I'm hoping you do at least have decent taste on that.

>>59517090
Bass extension is very literal. Stop and think about it for a second.

Clarity is a frequency response thing but also a fairly vague description. Emphasis around 1-4 KHz tends to give an impression of clarity.

>>59501835
>everyone
Still confused by preference, subjectivity and the limits of the study you quote.

>>59517184
(You)'s: Nicomaki
Aquors: Youhane

>Budget
Let's say about €250

>Location
Yurop

>Source
Building an O2/ODAC combo pretty soon so that'll have enough power for just about anything

>Type of headphone
Over-ear

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
Max_comfy.jpg

>Sound signature
Neutral I suppose, slight V-shape is fine

>Past headphones
Takstar Hi2050, these were alright
Fostex T20RP with a couple of simple mods, sadly kill
Fidelio L2, quite enjoy them but they're semi-open at best with kinda narrow soundstage

I've got a pair of velour HM5 pads, a pair of Shure 840 pleather pads and a pair of Shure 1840 velour pads just hanging around as well, so pad swapping is an option.

>>59517206
Always thought it was weird they used different headphones.
Wouldn't it make more sense for them to use the same pair and then EQ differently?

Feel like there's less variables that way.

>>59517206
So, do I understand correctly, both terms are about damaging the sound by deliberately not reproducing sound as it was recorded to be?

>>59517235
>same pair
That's exactly what they did. I believe it was HD 518 which was used as a simulation headphone.

>>59517073
you're a retard.

>>59517269
Nope. You're thinking of bass roll-off and the sennheiser veil.

>>59517228
HD600. Don't overthink it.

>>59517211
μ's: umi, eli, nico.
aqours: Not sure yet. Mostly favouring dia, kanan, yoshiko, zuramaru over the rest so far.

Ultimately, I like them all.

>>59517328
*yohane
all members of of the groups are best, but some are bester

>>59517289
>the sennheiser veil.
Hell's that. I keep hearing people mention it, but haven't been able to figure this one out.

>>59517271
Kek. Those headphones? No wonder they didn't like the bass. Great test, great headphones, anon.

>>59517271
According to the slides,
>>59501835
they used different headphones.
Although I guess they could have simply tuned them to match the various sound signatures of the listed ones.

>>59517359
The sennheiser sound is less bright compared to some other headphones out there. The people who don't like it call it a veil.

>>59517280
Nice rebuttal.

>>59515195
Seriously, if I had that much money to get myself something nice I would research the SHIT out of potential purchases and literally try them all. Being a lil' faggit you are, you gave no specifications for your music, past headphones or any sound preferences.

There are >>59515372 HD 800 with shiit stack. Then there are MrSpeakers with closed ETHER C for 1500 or Aeon for 700, they are new tho and there are only 'professional' reviews out there but I am yet to find someone who was dissatisfied with MrSpeakers products altho at this price it might be as well a circlejerk. Then there are Fostex TH-900 that go around 1k, 1300 on amazon and 1,100 on ebay. Then there are STAX systems, they are electrostatic and need their own amps, like SRS-3100 that goes for around 800. Then there are ZMF headphones with their high end going from 900-1300. Then there are Audeze LCD-breakyourneck-2 for 1k and EL from 700-800. Then there are Audioquest nightsomething, going around for 700. Finaly focal eclair and HiFimans.

There are so many 'hight end' headphones out there, here all I know so you can proceed all that info and go to your store to hump all of them because that what I would do if I was going to sped a fucking 1.3k on headphones. But none of this may matter, you might go in try all of this shit and then try HD600 or X2 or something for 300$ and be completely satisfied with it. Or you might buy speakers if you live alone and that will satisfy you more depending on your preferences.

>>59517357
I like trolling her/fans by not calling her yohane :D

>all members of of the groups are best, but some are bester
They all make good concubines, but umi's the one and only waifu.

>>59517406
I don't pick waifus, only pairings.
And nicomaki is the best pairing.

>>59513945
Still need the IEM because my Soundmagic cable is gonna rip soon

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>>59517359
Bass bleeding into the mids and a lack of treble.

>>59517395
I see. So it's something people used to a "bright" signature call "neutral" cans when they test them too briefly to actually get used to the new signature and start appreciating them.

Good to know.

>>59517439
>When they test them too briefly to actually get used to the new signature and start appreciating them

A-are you projecting?

>>59517439
>sennheiser
>neutral
lol, just lol
>>59517424
>that bass roll off
jesus christ no thanks

anyways dude, if you're gonna talk neutral, at least talk the HD800 where it actually makes a bit more sense

>>59515195
>1.3k
Christ. That budget does allow for a lot of screwing around.

I'd start by getting a good dac+amp like the O2+ODAC or the Schiit Stack.

DACs might seem like a meme, but having a good external DAC ensures you're not getting screwed by your source or at the very least you've got something good to compare against. Good DAC chips are cheap, and any good 2 DACs will sound the same, yet often enough in devices such as motherboards or smartphones, they cheapen out way too much, typically in isolating the DAC (introducing noise) or amplifying (causing non transparent FR), and the end result is flawed.

Then with the rest of the budget (still a lot left!) you could pick some actual cans.

From all I've personally tried, HD600 (which I own) are the only ones I'd dare say are a must.

That still leaves a lot of budget to play around with other fun options (like planars and electrostatics), but likely, the HD600 are the ones that are going to get the most use regardless.

>>59517570
>>59517570
>>59517570
>>59517570

New thread.

>>59517413
You wrote eliumi wrong.

>>59517581
>double cowtits
flat is justice

>>59517424
>Bass bleeding into the mids
There not being a dip?

>lack of treble
I find HD600 have earbleed levels of treble, somehow. That's the main annoyance if I set the volume too high.

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>>59501046
So I'm thinking of getting a pair of headphones for work and gym
Thinking solo 3 but open to other suggestions
>Budget
Hard budget of 250
>Location
In us
>Source
Plugging into galaxy s7
>Type of headphone
On ear, and wireless
>Open or closed
Closed, work is load and open are to flashy at the gym
>Comfort level
High priority, I'll be wearing max 16hours 5 times a week.
>Sound signature
V-shaped
>Past headphones
5 fucking pairs of Samsung ear buds
1 pair of skullcandy fmj

>>59517466
>anyways dude, if you're gonna talk neutral, at least talk the HD800 where it actually makes a bit more sense
HD800 FR looks bright to me, from plots. But I haven't had the chance to test these sadly.

>>59517592
>flat is justice
I agree. I <3 nico too.

>double cowtits
I don't see that. They're not nozomi's nozomis.

Eliumi's are what I'd call flat enough not to dislike.

>>59517628
Post here
>>59517579

You'll get more attention