>need to get internships so when i finish comp sci degree

>>59356233
Welcome to the job market in 2017.

I'm sure some call center will hire you.

>>59356233
>You mean you can come every day for however long except for Tuesday? But we need you here every day!
Well, I'm not dropping out of university to work at your shitty company for slightly more than a minimum wage.

>>59356233

this is just a test my dude. They know you are a student but ofc their ideal candidate can do everyhting already.

Keep in mind - HR departments are fucking stupid and have no clue what they are doing.

They will never reject you cause of a lack of experience (as a student) - never ever. This is just a meme spouted by people who got rejected cause their applications are shit.

Just put in effort and display what you actually can do and have learned to stand out in between all the other neet student fucks with no experience that apply.

t. HR Department Amazon

>>59356233
If you work for free or shit payment, then most of companies will hire you. I had similar situation but had chance to have my "first job experience" in start-up. It was terrible, but you gotta do what you need to do. Maybe some remote work ? Try mobile stuff they always look for "new talents".

Alternatively if you can't find internship then go for normal job offer. If you pick normal business, then they gonna test your skills. Additionally there are lots of summer internship programs, how come you didn't finish one?

Just graduated as a Mechanical Engineer with a 3.42 GPA and couldn't find an internship for shit. Now I can't find a job for shit. Been 2 months since I graduated and no job, about to start looking for some bullshit retail job.

Why did I go to college again?

>>59356233
they just want you to bow down, lick their foot and say you'll work pro bono

>>59356400

you didnt do any during your studies? this is really bad!

what about friends from college? any connections? get out there .. virtually impossible to end up in retail with such a degree anon ...

>>59356373
>Additionally there are lots of summer internship programs

These are the ones I've basically settled for and even they're asking for "previous experience"

Like man. Guess i have to wiggle my way of finding zero pay ones

>>59356346
>Keep in mind - HR departments are fucking stupid and have no clue what they are doing.
Not OP, but I've had interview that also had Team Leader involved, and he was very surprised that I had no prior experience worth mentioning in C#. I was applying to "Java Developer" position. After month and a half they sent me email thanking me for my interest bullshit. It was so poorly paid that I'm kind of glad.

>>59356412

>you didnt do any during your studies? this is really bad!

Yes it's terrible and now I am fucked.

>what about friends from college? any connections? get out there .. virtually impossible to end up in retail with such a degree anon ...

Some friends tried getting me a job at Lockheed and it's been 3 weeks and no call so that's not happening. Pretty depressing.

>>59356233
What shit universities do you goys all go to because in my school every summer there were high paid internships available either on campus working for research building some in-memory dbms or off campus at dozens of companies. I had my pick of internship.

If you can't find anything go on hnhiring.me and keyword search INTERNS or make a post in the monthly 'who wants to be hired' thread and say you're looking for internship, you will be hired.

>>59356437
Oops forgot link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13764730

>>59356428

well its generally isn't an issue. Companies are ran by individuals and sure it might matter to some to a certain degree. Im talking in general - which applies when you apply to multiple companies.

>>59356436

yeah well Lockheed dude. Don't reach for the stars immediately - those are high competition entry level jobs. Only a fraction of graduates get in - be it through connections and whatever. Just apply to many many companies and see whats going to happen. Don't settle for the Top 5, Top 10 in your field. This is fucking retarded.

Don't fall for the

>fresh grad
>150k salary
>every benefit i want

memes on the Internet. Some people are lucky - some have to do it the hard way.

A COMMON problem i see among fresh grads is that they are so deluded and brain washed by their university/college and think they literally DESERVE to get into the best companies on the market but that evidently isn't the case.

>>59356424
Hey, some of my friends got job by doing well at entry test. You don't need commercial experience to be able to grasp the meaning of things. If you want to go into programming start with something easy like HTML5 + CSS + JS basics or you can for for c#/Java

>>59356470

I've applied to maybe 50 places so far. Lockheed was the only one where I had connections though. I'd take bottom of the barrel as long as it will help me develop my resume with practical engineering skills.

No one wants to hire a fresh grad with no internship experience. I fucked myself hard. The only thing I have going for me is GPA and that is practically irrelevant.

Most jobs I come across want 8+ years of experience, some request 2-5. I find very few that specify entry level.

>>59356520

doesn't make any sense seriously. Not a single interview? something must be SERIOUSLY wrong with your CV. What in the world are you doing!?

What about linkedin? Are you present there? This is a must have. What about big career expos in your area? What about your university, college?!

>>59356520
>Most jobs I come across want 8+ years of experience, some request 2-5. I find very few that specify entry level.
Not really on topic, but I also really "enjoy" companies which call their positions very generically and require everything from HTML to Assembler, CCNA and Unix expertise. And pay like shit.

>tfw been taking summer quarter for the past 3 years
There's a lot of classes I want to take, rip me.

>>59356539

I don't have a linkedin. I went to make one and it requires I put a job title and the company I'm working for. Is this for people who are already employed and searching? If I censor my contact info is it safe to post a screenshot my resume here for a critique?

>>59356520
Something is not right. Don't tell me you are a scrub.
Don't apply for a job that needs 8+ years of experience because you don't have that much. I bet those were ment for senior something. If you want to succeed then take it slow. If you can't then I bid you best of luck.

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>TFW didn't go to college
>TFW making $60,000 in upstate NY doing help desk work

>>59356595

>Is this for people who are already employed and searching?

no its for everyone. Most HR Departments do their initial search for potential candidates on linkedin actually. Its the #1 spot. Basically the FB for Work.

Research on what you should put in as a fresh grad who is looking for emplyoment. Im sure there are many articles on this already.

I wouldnt put up a CV on 4chan. There are places on reddit that aren't terrible for this type of shit

>>59356595
>If I censor my contact info is it safe to post a screenshot my resume here for a critique?
Not him but yes, your location would also help. Some countries and regions are just shit to get a decent job. If I was willing to drop university and move, I could get better paying job than those shitty internships even without having a degree. But I would rather finish it and get a better paying job later somewhere else.

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>>59356652

This is what I have. I change up the relevant courses a bit depending on where I am applying and what they are looking for. How can I fix this?

>>59356760

I'm in Florida btw.

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>>59356760
>Skills
>Academic Honors and Awards

I'm sorry, but you sound like a child. Noone gives a shit about your academic honors or your awards. Jesus. Its a huge red flag on a resume.

>>59356794

Advisors on my campus told me to put it there. Should I remove it and put more coursework? What about the skills section, you didn't say what was wrong there.

>>59356760

ok pal ... Amazon Wagecuck here. I look at thousands of resumes.

This is pure cancer. Its barely readable. Tbqh i'd just click that shit away instantly.

Dear LORD! ... I know you are an engineer but man try to make that thing readable.

There are so many templates out there.

Who told you to put "relevant courses" on your CV anyway? I know you have an degree in mechanical engineering.

What i want to know is why i should hire you.

this is b8. Academics, Honors, Awards are highly relevant >>59356794

TL;DR:

>too much text
>hard to read
>irrelevant information

It wouldn't hurt you if you acutally pay someone to do a professional resume if you CBA. Its wort hit and can make the difference between finding a 50k or 80k entry level position (as a mechanical engineer) - so think about it.

>>59356794
He doesn't have any related experience, what else would he put?

>>59356813
Do you think its okay if I list my participation trophies from Junior High on my resume?

>>59356794
Perhaps he's hoping for a job from Noone?

>>59356794
In his case its fine though because he doesn't have much other experience. Once he gets relevant experience, the academic honors needs to go asap to make space

>>59356813

If I don't put relevant coursework then what do I put? I don't have experience so without that I really have nothing else to put there.

Note: >>59356838 is a different poster.

>>59356618
That is pretty substantial for helpdesk work, congratulations anon. I grew up in central/western NY and I think about going back everyday I miss it there, but I'm making well over 6 figures where I am and the money is difficult to walk away from.

I'm not happy here, but I couldn't be happy there knowing how much I'm passing up even if the cost of living is lower. I sort of envy your situation even though I don't want to be anywhere near helpdesk.

>>59356838

not a good idea and irrelevant. It'll be better

>>59356863

Regarding the course shit - i'd say KEEP this too a bare minimum.

Again .. like i said initially. Its not really about your experience my dude. There are HUMAN beings on the other side you know. Its not like we don't know that some fresh grad necessarily doesn't have epic work experience. Thats why its an entry-level position. Most companies usually reserve around 2-3 months of training for fresh grads or have programs for that anyway.

What you need to do is show a company why it should invest into you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZpHDaQwqnc

this is a good video actually.

>>59356520
Just start building wells in Africa for UNICEF. That should count as experience.

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>>59356928

Im not suggesting Anon should make up a story about how he helped to build wells somewhere in Africa but it would really really help. Im also not suggesting that there isnt any paper work involved usually because villages and help organizations aren't there to help you with your career ;). Im also not suggesting that Anon should fill in some potential gaps like a summer with a fake africa trip to boost his CV. ;)!

>>59356813
>too much text
I don't know, some companies required that my CV has at least 2 pages. To be fair, they actually required that it is informal and that I should write about stuff I do in my free time.

>>59356760
I'm in Europe, I don't know if stating what courses you did is really relevant. Here it really isn't. If they want to know, they are going to ask. Also, when referring to skills, you are expected to describe how much you know. Advanced - worked on some projects (even if it was only part of your course), beginner - I used it in my free time a bit. Expert - I already worked at position that required it (and I didn't fail miserably). Expect to be asked a few questions to prove that you are what you claim to be.

Nobody gives a shit about your MS Office experience, some idiots claim to be experts in it and never heard of macros, so it kind of lost value to even state it. If they want to know, they will end up asking.

>>59356976

CV of 2 Pages is retarded.

If anything that would include a cover letter/motivational letter. I absolutely hate CVs that are longer than 1 page.

If you can't condense information on 1 page you are most likely a pain in the ass to work with and overcomplicate things.

>>59356618
There are always outliers like yourself, friend. My brother is making over 65k and he does not even have a GED (he dropped out when he had a blood clot go to his head and was in the ER). You sometimes just get lucky. The thing about getting lucky is, by definition, some people have to be less lucky.

>>59356991
I agree, but I was recommended to do it, so I did.

anyway ... what i can also add is the following:

>treat writing resumes, CV's, cover letters, motivational letters as some important skill to learn

most faggots on 4Chan would invent a time machine if they had to to post on her

so why not invest some time into actually learning how to go about in the recruitment process?!

read articles, watch "tutorials", suck up all the relevant information.

Treat it as if its a programming language you want to learn and you desperately want to be knowledgable about it to shitpost on /g/. I dont know. Make something up. Treat it as if its a new video game you have to master bcause you want to be good at it.

Im saying this because this is an area thats usually heavily neglected. Nobody really talks about this openly and universities/colleges are really bad at this aswell mostly because they pretend that all of their grads are super high in demand and basically get auto employed anyway. It'll be kind of bad for them if theyd guide people through all the effort behind it.

Soo with that being said just fucking LEARN HOW TO GET A JOB. Get good at it. You will need it. You have to apply for jobs multiple times in your life and its only going to become more important down the road because then its about more money, more important decisions (family etc).

If everything fails and oyu are just too dumb please apply to the nearest amazon warehouse - you will get hired for sure and the pay will be shit, the work will be hard, the people that work there fucking suck but at least its a job anon ;)!!

>>59356991
This. A resume says a lot about someone if you read into it enough.

Is it over a page?
The person is probably cocky and full of themselves. They think their accomplishments can make up for their terrible personality.

Is it overly frilly with their name being the biggest text on the fucking page?

They are a terrible worker that thinks their "creativity" will make up for their lack of knowledge.

Is it overly wordy?

Same basic problem of the 2 page person, but the person may also be a very terrible team player and will come in thinking they can do everything day one.

Is there any color?

Future office shooter. Into the trash it goes.

Is there academic information from high school?

They are trapped in the past and are trying too hard to justify why they should be hired. Into the trash it goes immediately.

>>59356233
They also want to pay you nothing.

>>59357139

color isnt that bad if its nicely themed imo. Stands out and makes it readable more often than not.

>>59357152
Why would you expect high pay when you have no experience? Fuck off.

>>59357156
No. Color is always a bad idea. Period. You are applying to work, not to be a feminist colorist.

>>59357178

calm down son. Many companies use colors in their own marketing. Its a vital part of business and signalling.

REMEMBER:

HR Department = FEMINISTS

The application basically never ends up on the desk of some grumpy oldschool tech fag code monkeys desk lol.

You have to get past the eyes of some 20 soemthing qt feminist who never does anything in this shitty office but judge people on things she has no clue about.

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>>59357163
>anything above 0 is "high pay"

>>59356233
>shit that never happened: the post

you fucking nerds prove yet again none of you are old enough to be out of high school

I just realized.
The reason nobody wants to fucking hire me for shitty low tier jobs is because I keep putting my education on them. I should just redact that holy shit

>>59357206
It is an internship. You are there to learn and get experience, not to get paid, dumbass.

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>>59357204
>>59356813
>>59356976
>>59357139
>>59357178
What about pic related?
Is it a readable and nice looking cv or mental illness tier?

>>59357397
>A graphic of your skills
Holy shit! I knew feminism was infecting the world, but this is a whole new level of mental illness I did not even think was possible.

>>59356813
Hello fellow amazonian.

>>59357270
Yeah, I finally managed to get my first job as a cart pusher after I stopped putting my degree on my applications.

>>59357464

Work Hard. Have Fun. Make History.

;)!

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>>59357422
The bars are pretty wince-worthy, but is the general aesthetic alright or 'throw it in the bin' tier?

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>>59357483
y-you too

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>>59357501

i want to get off this ride

u 2 frend?!?!

>>59357496
The colors are distracting and pull the eye to the dates rather than the content. It is garbage.

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>>59357537
Yeah, alright, but I didn't mean this specific CV example, I mean are CVs that use graphics, colors, etc. viewed as childish or something

Is a CV that doesn't look like >>59356760 a joke?

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rate my resume , i have it as a pdf so the document looks better(much bigger white page) the top black square is my name.What should i change? add? change the document look? im going to appply for a web dev job

>>59357648
It depends on the job, obviously, but as a general rule of thumb, yes, graphics are for morons and people with no understanding of the concept of "content over presentation." If you are going for an animator job, sure, make it flashy, but since you are on /g/, you are most likely going for something in the computing / coding / engineering fields, where it is about what you know rather than your artistic skill.

tl;dr Make your CV design reflect the type of job you want. If it is flashy, expect people to think you are more flash than know-how.

>>59357672
What the fuck?! My eyes are bleeding! Who the fuck taught you to use that shitty layout? You also have a shit ton of typing errors in there and the mixed cases makes me think you are illiterate. Please be bait.

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>>59357530
I don't mind it. Been really good for the resume and my bank/investment accounts and opened a lot of doors and I have learned a ton.

I'm pretty exhausted though.

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>>59356233
>be in undergrad 4 years ago
>apply for co-op, REU, work study
>get offers out the wazoo
>pick REU over the other offers because "I should do something I love!!11 xdd"
>now I'm a poor grad student

>>59357672
I think I am going to be sick. Overly wordy and tons of errors. Into the trash it goes!

>>59356760
Relevant courses should either be absent or 1 line of text. The biggest chunks should be personal projects and work experience. I don't see any personal projects right now. Remove soft skills from your 'skills'. Academic honors is a-OK but squeeze it into 'education' and just take the highlights.

>>59357794
>grad school meme student
>poor
Why are you being redundant here?

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>>59356760
>relevant courses
>vague "skills"
>"academic awards" on a resume intended for the private sector

>>59357397
>>59357496
Why would you put a skill on your resume then immediately walk it back by admitting you aren't great at it

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>>59357710
what about this, just the layout not what is written

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>>59357826
I know a grad student in security dev that easily makes 70k-80k annually. Me on the other hand struggle to make 45k.
>be math phd
>any job I want
>300k starting

Should I bother mentioning my GPA if it's not good, or is that a bigger red flag? I have a 2.9 : /

>>59357912
i dont think it matters in our field, unless u have a high gpa n r a recent grad

>>59356520
>Lockheed
Are you at UCF my dude?

>>59357908
Math degrees are a meme. Unless you are a professor, you will be unemployed unless you learn an actual skill along with it.

>>59357899
There are still errors everywhere! Fix that shit! English better not be your first language because I really think your grammar school should be shut down if it is.

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>>59357956
Why do you think I'm on /g/?

>>59357978
its a quick sketch in illustrator, i ddnt fix the typos its lorem ipsum, I just want to know if this is better or should i change it more like the header and stuff.

>>59357899
This is actually a really solid layout. I'd call it 90% perfect assuming your actual text for the projects/work experience are concise and well outlined

I would drop the soft skills (word, photoshop) and probably drop spanish/english.
Education is usually a minimum requirement recruiters look at, i've had good luck compressing it to ~2 lines and making it the first section

>>59358153
yea after the first roast I thought of that.

>>59356813
>Who told you to put "relevant courses" on your CV anyway?
This. That's intern-teir shit so they have an idea of what you've learned. You have a degree so it implies you know what an ME graduate would know. Put some projects on their.

>built mechanical dildo into my chair to stimulate my prostrate while browsing the internet

>>59357950

Yeah.

>>59356346
>This is just a meme spouted by people who got rejected cause their applications are shit.
You mean like "doesn't have prior experience"?
I got in a pissing match with my professor once over this, turned in his resume with all the actual job titles taken out so it was all just "self study" and his bacherlors with some kind of portfolio he made.
Point is he got told "oh we'll let you know". Didn't even call him in for an interview. Of course in hindsight I should have copied his portfolio, but I wasn't thinking then.

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>>59357359
>You are there to learn and get experience

And yet these same "interships" are asking for experience beforehand

>>59358616
It is a weeding mechanism. Go in and show you are willing to learn and assert you are not seeking any pay at all and you are fine. If you are going for paid internships, it is you that is the problem.

>>59358663
Not him and I know this isn't for an internship, but I got yelled at from a manager at a best buy because I was pushing for an application in person instead of just doing it online.
Specifically I asked what positions were open, he told me to go online like everyone else, I was like "well you already know what positions you need filled so how about we talk what position I would best fill for you", and the guy yelled something about me not getting a job there at all and stormed off.
Like sure thank goodness I didn't end up working at a best buy but still a job is a job.

>>59356233
>internship

You need 2 PhDs, and 15 years of experience to even think about being considered for an internship.

>>59358750
it works in ny, my friend went in person n got the job but i think its because those old timers like that old fashion(company was a hedge fund firm)

>>59356233
>tfw got an internship at the place my dad works because he recommended me to his boss
>stayed as a part time intern through the rest of my undergrad
>got hired there after my degree was finished
Wew, sure feels good to be part of the fun percent. Maybe if you stupid mongs didn't alienate yourself from your family you'd have more support in this ebil and unfair world.

>>59358750
He sounds like a lazy piece of shit that wants others to manage his applications. I would go on and submit 100 applications with tons of buzzwords to get the application flagged for review and then name-drop the cunt in the fake resumes.

Tfw got internship at a fortune 500 company developing software this summer. I'm a Computer Engineering Major but most of my electives are CS related and I have a 4 projects (2 by myself and 2 in a classes) that are decent and caught their eye. No prior work experience and I only have a 3.48 GPA. I think the personal projects caught their eye. I did apply to like 40 positions though but I met a recruiter at my uni fair. She was a graduate of the school and I talked to her about a project I was working on and I think that caught her eye. It seems most people do 2-3 interviews (one phone and 1-2 on site) but I got mine after just one on site interview

>>59356233
Did you still apply or give up and shitpost here

>>59359012
He is a /g/ NEET. What do you think?

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Resume thread now?

I've applied to a bunch of places and got jack shit. What the fuck I'm I doing wrong

>>59359215
>work experience
>none

>>59359215
>applied to a bunch of places
Which places?

>>59359215
>lists no relevant work experience
Why are you even bothering to list it? No one cares if you can take care of your mother. How does that mean you can work in a tech field? In fact, from the way it sounds, that was just unpaid shit anyway. You seem like the kind of person that thinks everything they do is valuable and a terrible worker.

>Into the trash that resume goes.

>>59359215
people i know have put places they work at, and giving phone numbers of there friends so when thy call , ur friends says yea he worked here

>>59359273
deloitte, facebook, highmark, ABS consulting, basically risk analyst positions or IT analyst positions.

>>59359231
>>59359334
At one point I had to manage 3 different agencies coming to care for her, and deal with the myriad of doctors that treated her. That has to fucking mean something, or else I don't know how to explain why I did shitty job in college

>>59359412
guy i know got a job at facebook after making a decent chrome tab, but met thm in person at a hacking event

>>59359215
Please be fucking bait. No one can be this retarded.

>>59359412
>At one point I had to manage 3 different agencies coming to care for her, and deal with the myriad of doctors that treated her. That has to fucking mean something, or else I don't know how to explain why I did shitty job in college

It's cold but you have to have some perspective. Employers don't care how hard you work, they care what results you produce. Resumes have to be achievement-oriented.

Your projects sound like routine coursework. You should only be listing above-and-beyond things you're dedicated to in your free time. If you don't have any, well, you should focus on that.

>tfw didn't do jack shit in college but had a 4.0 and got a job with Google before graduation

>>59359215

>cyber security
>out of work

Weeew... Another Fresh Grad who only applies to the big guys because he thinks he deserves a big boy paycheck

Listen. Every single company in the world is looking for you atm. You must be uber autistic lmao.

Yes mommy matters to you but not to the people in the real world. Remove it and make some shit up about how u consulted small business on how to set up their computers as a freelancer.

I might get hired a renowned place (govt agency) for Computer Science/Enginner internship but here's the kicker, my internship term isn't till next year.

Should I sacrifice a year of university for working at this place for a year?

>>59359412
Well, let me put it this way: imagine you have the biggest marketing genius in the work that was able to design posters and marketing material to push even the dumbest shit. Now, he applies to do a programming job. How does his skill mean anything to his ability to program? It is useless. You can be the best ass-wiper in the world, but that does not make you a doctor, electrician, or plumber. The skillset is different

No one cares what you can do besides the job work. They care what you can provide for your job. You should have gotten a tech internship, friend. Your work experience is useless unless you are going into healthcare or elderly care.

>>59359512

Yes. University is shit and age is irrelevant. Better be a 25 yr old who graduates with this experience, connections, than a 23 yr old weeb neet who never did anything.

>>59359512
No.

>>59359512
Yes. Work experience >>>>> GPA.

>>59359531
I might take it since the experience of actually working there might be very valuable.

Like I think the experience, work and social, may be worth it. The pay is shit though.

>>59359538
Why not?

>>59359549
I figured man, but if I do do it, I will have to relocate to a new state, but they would cover moving expenses.

>>59359558

trust me. Connections there are worth it. Networking >>>>>>>GPA, degrees, grades

>>59359549
Only if you live in the US. If you are a UK nannystater, it matters a lot.

>>59359579
This is true, but you will get analled by HR without a paper to get our through the door on most degrees even with connections.

>>59356233
Great job wasting away your life and free time when you could have been more active in your field.

You're in college, not home you dipshit.

>>59359602
experience >>> degree
with 1 year or 2 year experience ur going to have recruiters knocking on ur door, with 5 recruiters will do anything for you

>>59359579
Yeah... well that's the thing too, I may start in the Winter, so I have less than 10 months to learn how to network and be sociable. Right now Im hermit mode with just a few close friends.

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>internship position lists 1-3 years experience
>apply for the hell of it, make a CV on the spot basically listing everything they wrote for the job description and saying i'm a pro at it
>they call back saying they like what they see and to reapply for a new job listing thats listed as 0 work experience needed just so everything can go through HR correctly
And thats how I got my first internship.
Just apply everywhere regardless of what it says they want. HR always wants the best, and when they can't get the best they'll have to settle on somebody.

Just do some side project, and put it on Github. There, now you have something to say.

>>59359645
Only if the experience is directly applicable.
>>59359215
is a perfect example of a moron that thinks experience in one field means experience in all fields.

where do you guys go to look for internship positions?

>>59359660

>im a hermit.

Bud... Thats exactly why you need job experience. It won't go away on its own. Better to fix it now .

>>59356991
if you have over 15+ years of experience and your resume is not over two pages, something is fucking wrong.

>>59359719
Easiest: Jobfests at college
Slightly harder: Professor recommendations
Harder still: Online postings
Situational: Family / friends

>you can judge an entire personality, work ethic, and their life history from one sheet of paper
>which was probably made under stress knowing if it's fucked up at all you don't get to eat

>>59359718
^forgot to add this

>>59359735
Yes, what is wrong is you are full of yourself and incapable of cutting out the pointless shit. Never. Go. Over. One. Page. Ever. No, you do not need to list your high school jobs. No, you do not need fucking hobbies. No, your high school accomplishments do not matter at all anymore.

>>59359773
ok mr less than 5 yrs experience

>>59359768
If you are stressed out over writing a paper, you are not a good worker. Writing a resume is easy. It is meant to weed out morons like you with no work ethic.

>>59359790
>Writing a resume is easy
Let's see yours.

>>59359787
How many jobs do you have to list in that time? If it is more than about three, it makes me wonder if you are a job hopper. See what I am saying? Adding more just leads to people asking questions. If you need to bring it up, wait for the interview.

>>59359790
it really isn't

I have over 24 commits on my resume

doesn't help that you usually have to write your resume to target specific "postings." as a result i have over 4 different resume branches.

>>59359814
What does having more than one copy have to do with anything? You are just coming across as super lazy and uncompromising.

>>59359834
Okay now you sound like bait. Fuck off.

>>59359773
I don't really understand the mentality behind blatantly bullshitting on /g/ like this.
A resume isn't a paper that's due sunday at 11:59 where it needs at least 3 pages or it's an automatic f.
You use as many pages as you need. Making it over a page or 3 pages doesn't make it good, but leaving shit out just to have a single page is just setting yourself up for failure.
Now this is a thread more focused on internships, so it's not likely they have much actual practical experience or learned a wider variety of skills to fill out multiple pages on a resume, but "Never. Go. Over. One. Page. Ever." is just ignorant.

>>59359798
well duh.

jobs are shitty. everyone I know probably jumps ship every year or so until they end up at Red Hat or some other cool kid company.

>>59359834
I ain't lazy, but it ain't all that easy.
It took a lot to get my resume where it is now.
It also took a lot of feedback, some I ignored, to get it where it is.

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>>59359487
Free time was spent with depression and care for my mom.

>>59359521
I can only play with the cards I've been dealt.

Allow me to lament about how saving one life costed me my own. Or how the people that told me I'm the greatest person ever are the same people that refuse to give me a job.

Kinda feels that college was worse than no college

>>59359838
>I have no answer for why I am too lazy to cut the bullshit / reformat the shit on my godly piece of paper that is without faults.

Yup. Into the trash your application would go here.

>>59359858
Please tell us what shitty job factory you work at so I know never to deal with them.

>>59359875
shuf -n1 listOfFortune500ButNotTheCoolOnesThatAreInstantlyRecognizable.txt

is my guess.

>>59359856
Oh please. No need to be an edgy prick. It is not the end of the world. Lots of college job fairs are open to the public. Get an internship at one. No work experience is not the end of the world. It just means you need to find some. Also,

> Free time was spent with depression and care for my mom.

Sounds like you are pretty mentally unbalanced. I would take care of that shit before you even think of a job.

Is 1 internship the summer of my senior year good enough for a CS student to get a job?

I should've got one for this summer but im going to instead just work on a bunch of personal projects and up my resume

Maybe I should just kill myself instead of dealing with all of this bullshit and hoops to jump through and dicks to suck. I haven't even gotten to college yet and I feel like I'm fucking FAILING.

>>59359907
Depends what the internship was in, but yeah, probably will get you in the door of some places. Did you get any connections when you were interning?

>>59359897
>Sounds like you are pretty mentally unbalanced. I would take care of that shit before you even think of a job.

I would advise against this since it's will never happen and he needs a job.

>>59359907
no. you need 5+ year for jr anything goy.
in all seriousness, job bullshit is mostly filling out applications or asking your mommy or other cool kids to distribute your resume to all the managers at various companies.

>>59359927
>I would advise against this since it's will never happen and he needs a job.

Well, he is whining on /g/, so you are probably right and he is a lost cause, but if he has any ability to redeem himself, he should try.

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Just be yourself, bros. its easy worked for me, no internship, hired straight out of uni.

>>59359915
probably.

it literally doesn't come up any better than it already is, if not worse.

I went from an internship that offered me moderate freedoms to do whatever and make my boss look retarded to "embedded development" sysadmin whatever the fuck I'm doing, hell out of college.

also Unix beard autism fucks need to die and systemd is good.
also ansible > your faggy shell scripts

fuck all of you. kill yourselves jesus fucking christ. just end it all before it's too late anon

>>59359960
The problem is that most of these fucks are either whiny edgelords or cocky pricks that think they have nothing left to learn in life. Either one is unemployable.

also, another note from my crazy ramblings, developers may be stupid, but at least you can converse with them and not want to kill yourself.

usually if you don't go full [*autistic screeching*] on them, usually you can work shit out and everyone is happy.

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>>59359963
>trying too hard

another note, if a company repeatedly indicates they use a lot of "shell scripting" and ask you shell scripting related questions, just fucking don't.

don't, seriously.

Can we reset the economy to 2007 please?

>>59360023
>implying a /g/ poster can do anything but screech like an autistic monkey

>>59360062
I'm convinced all sysadmins have to be /g/ posters then.

I'm legit only calling myself a "DevOps" engineer for now on.

>>59359733
No Im fully capable of being social its just gonna take sometime to get my groove back is all. Im also getting in shape too for some confidence boosts.

So pleasing my supervisors and buddying-up with my co-workers is pretty much networking, right

>>59359955
>>59359897
>>59359927

Then what the hell am I suppose to do? Internships want people from college which I graduated from, jobs want experience, and if my college degree ain't worth the paper it's printed on. I've been coding python scripts, studying to take my Security+, and trying to set up a computer network for a Amateur Radio station. It's not like I've been sitting on my ass. I bitch and moan because I have no fucking idea how to show that to employers.

>>59360188
ask your mom????
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>59360188
People have started revolutions over less.
Try seriously looking out of the country.

idk about CS, but in engineering they tell us to add school projects that are hefty enough to pass as experience.

IE we're currently building a drill powered vehicle for Mech E and that's pretty damn easy. Experience out of college is more about demonstrating you're capable first. Working at Pajeet Inc is just a bonus to getting your foot in the door.

>tfw haven't been applying for any internships
haha im fugged

>>59360562
Does your school do a jobfest?

>>59356400
You went to college to be educated. Stop treating it like the controlled talent farm corporations want.

>>59360188
life is hard, fuck you.

>>59356436
get good man. It is your only choice. Leave 4chan for your own sake

>>59356233
Yeah, the concept of an internship has its own meaning with CS. An internship is ideally you learning the job, but with CS it's like okay you are gonna work alongside us for less pay because your expectations are slightly less. You learn by contributing. It's tough but I can say it's rewarding, I'm on my second internship right now, it's a lot, but it's a great feeling knowing that this is helping my future.

>>59359500
>things that didn't happen: the post

I have two words for job seekers in IT
1. Lie
2. Conceal
They will get you far

>>59362146
That is true for any field.

>>59360089
"DevOps Engineer" here

it's pretty comfy

>>59362162
How did you get into it? I want to do this but all my prior experience has been in BI and database development with a little bit of .net

bullshit. you're just being picky. my professional resume was BLANK. I put on there some stupid bullshit I did for my operating systems class and listed a few languages I was proficient in. I had ZERO issues getting my first paid internship.

does it look bad if your resume is LESS than one full page? some anons said to leave off irrelevant work experience, so that means I'd have ~1 extra inch of whitespace.

>>59356233
I have a question for all you employed types.
Does 'x years experience' in computer shit mean actual years in a full time paid job?
I work in translation, and there's a similar thing where everyone will want 5 years experience, but freelance years count, I also spent some time translating medical reports at an insurance company I worked for and that scanned fine.

Could you not just put down hobbyist work you've done on your portfolio?

>>59362226
NEVER make your resume more than one page. 99% of the time it will go straight in the trash.

>>59362181
I did some full stack development and sysadmin stuff for a non-profit during University. Was at a career fair looking for development jobs when some recruiter started talking about DevOps and he thought my skills were a good starting point.

Honestly pretty sure I got the job because I acted professional, had some basic scripting and sysadmin experience, and was quick on following up with him afterwards.

>>59362226
I don't think so, mine had some extra space too and nobody complained. Just don't make it more than one page and you're good.

>>59362249
my resume is exactly one page right now, but the question was if it would look suspicious if there was unfilled whitespace (not counting margins obviosuly)

>>59362269
thx. are you employed now and how did your resume look like?

>>59362285
Yep, I'm employed now. It was pretty standard:

* name
* contact info
* education block
* experience block (mainly personal projects and the like, since no real work experience)
* languages
* tools
* certs

>>59357359
>This is what Americans actually believe.
>This is how Americans have been brainwashed for generations

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>>59364224
There is a difference between an internship and a job, Eurocuck / chink / whatever. I was basing my version of an internship on the definition of the word, unlike you, is useful and not a waste of space.

Can one get a job with a degree and bunch of FOSS contributions?

>>59364663

yes

>Didn't get an internship
>Got job making $75K immediately after college (2 days after walking)

Don't listen to /g/ when they spout about C and such. Learn C# or Java, a scripting language (I learned PowerShell on the job, but I wish I knew it beforehand) and SQL.

>>59356520
You can always lie

>>59364663
The degree alone is enough if you have connections. That said, yes, you can, but you will probably get in at entry level without experience or someone to vouch for you.

>>59364714
Yes, you CAN, but it does not happen as often as you think and it is safer to just go and get an internship. Most schools have jobfests anyway.

>>59364394
That's considered slavery in EU. Nice third world country you have there americuck.

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>>59356250

>he doesn't know a call center job is the filtering system for the modern IT industry

It's how I got my foot in the door.

>>59364833
How does one make connections?

>>59365061
Slavery you do not choose by choice for the purpose of getting connections and experience, dumbass. Do you expect to be paid when you go to college too? You are a fucking idiot.

>>59365110
Lots of ways. Professors, classmates, local businesses, jobfests, etc. are school related ones, but also family, friends, etc. can also help.

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>>59365216
>Do you expect to be paid when you go to college too

they actually do this in Scandinavia (Denmark, Sweden and Finland. Don't know about Norway and Iceland tho)

>>59365591
Yes, but the concept remains. Expecting to get a paycheck for everything you do (especially when you do not deserve it) is childish.

>not going to a school that requires and helps you get an internship
>not having one your entire college education and having a job with them guaranteed when you graduate
>not making enough money during your internship to pay for your school so you graduate with no debt

Step it up.

>>59356233
H1-B, Americans aren't hostage enough to their liking. Just keep an eye out for the company to post pretty much the same job every month and keep applying for it so they can't go the H1-B office and say no one applied.

Jesus Christ people. Literally anything counts as work experience. Personal side projects, clubs, research, etc. I got an internship literally before I even went to college, and I go to a state school.

>>59356233
Looks like you missed the boat.

Though you should be using contracts to get past HR filters. Half the point of college is building said contacts.

Sufficient open source contributions on a major project (like Firefox) or a successful first app with a consistent multithousand DAU can often be an OK substitute.

That all said, some areas have a penchant for letting you buy an unpaid internship. This is not uncommon in the UK, particularly in finance.
There is an established practice for loans for that purpose so do a bit of research as to whether your area does the same.

>>59356346
>They will never reject you cause of a lack of experience (as a student) - never ever

The HR filter at most relevant software companies absolutely will.
Especially the automated ones.

Hey guys does it matter if the internships are at tech companies or can they be from places like UPS or local country gov doing "computer projects" I dunno that's what the people at the info booth said.

My dad works at a very, very, small tech company but he has nothing for me to do there. Should i just go this route instead?

>>59364714
>Don't listen to /g/ when they spout about C and such.

I got memed by /g/ and pursued C. Managed to snag a embedded development job with zero experience and no degree at the time. My hourly rate is $1 more than the mobile app developer who holds a masters degree who got hired around the same time as me.

Best meme of my life

Does everyone pretty much do their internships in the summer? Are there any for other quarters? I have like 207 units and I can't be missing whole sessions if i want to grad in 4 years

It amuses me greatly that companies are forcing their employees to lie to them about their prior experience.

Imagine that, entire companies built with nothing but people willing to lie for their own personal gain

>>59356233
>CS
>2017
I'm so sorry

>>59366585
oh well.

they deserve it desu.

>>59366201
I haven't had this problem.
maybe you just apply to shitty companies?

i usually avoid any company that demands a .doc|.docx resume for instance.