/pcbg/ - PC Building General

First time building, is it too bad?
I'm not going to OC
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p7KCKZ
also, can /g/ recommend me some PSU? I've not got the Pin thing.

>>59343986
an evga 600W 80+ should be more than enough

Need a new PC for a mix of work lab/Counter Strike.
Hope to run VMWare workstation with 6+ guest OS.
Any suggestions for performance increase/price reduction appreciated.
https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/686905

Living in Melb Australia.

>>59343986
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p7KCKZ

i would buy an SSD to boot off of and keep your primary games on

Will ryzen 1600 have iGPU?
Trying to build a pc without gpu until I have money to buy a 1080 or vega.

>>59343986
>1 HDD
>1 GPU
>Full tower

MOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>59344032
>https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/686905

make sure you buy an SSD

>>59344053
I've got two 240gb EVO ssd's in my current build, planning on bringing those across.

>>59344080

RAID 0?

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How should I feel about this?

>>59343986
people always spend more of PSUs then they need and new GPUs are more power efficient. corsair is a cheap brand.

1 TB hard drive is not enough. but you can get another later.

since you clearly have the money I would invest in an SSD to put your OS on. samsung works

if you plan on overclocking the cpu get a motherboard with a Z170 chipset.

>>59344110

depends on if you are going to want other drives in your pc

>>59344011
Thanks
>>59344034
I've already one, as I'm not going to buy I forgot to put there

>>59344041
I am about to buy a i7 7700 system without gpu, I was wondering if I should just pull the trigger and buy it or buy ryzen 5 flagship.

What do you anons thinks?

>>59344104
not at the moment.

>>59344135
Yeah, it's probably not an issue.
I plan to have 1 m.2 drive and 2 sata drives.

>>59343670
>>59343670
Looking at the high fps 1080p 144hz build I cant help but feel like gtx 1070 is overkill?

IS this build assuming we are trying to get max fps with max settings in games?

What would be a better alternative gpu in that kit for max fps while not caring about max settings?

>>59344167
apparrently the ryzen is future proof even though it under performs compares to the i7.

You'll never notice the difference in performance, but you are buying an inferior product.

Thing is Ryzen will hold steady at that performance for years to come cuz multipel cores.
I7 is gonna fall off hard in a bit

I bought a 6600K that I've overclocked to 4.5 GHz with no stability issues, but now I'm wishing I'd bought a 7700K.

Talk me out of this.

Anyone here rocking a server board?

>>59344265
What titles are you looking to get 144hz in? Maybe older games will be able to with max settings, but I haven't seen many benchmarks that show it getting very high with newer titles.

>>59344352
you're buying an inferior product if you only use it for video games yeah

>>59344632
No no i mean assuming I don't give a shit about max settings then the 1070 is overkill right?
I mainly want 144hz for competitive fps like cs go overwatch etc where im gonna min all the settings regardless. I dont need a 1070 to average above 144fps in that scenario right?

>>59344697
Oh yeah, 1070 would be huge overkill. iirc you can get huge frame improvements just by turning overwatch down to low even with a 1060

>>59344722
ok great I think eventually ill shell out for a gpu but im just gonna go all out on my cpu motherboard and case/PSU since GPU isnt a dealbreaker for my needs

I'm using a six-year-old, Bronze-rated 650W Corsair PSU in my brand new build. Should I upgrade?

what are best 140 case fans to move most air?
don't really like the ones that came with R5

>>59344754
check if your PSU comptiable with modern CPUs
after haswell it will be an issue due to how power states are handled now

>>59344815
It seems to be working fine, but now you have me concerned.

Question what CPU benefits the most from 2400mhz RAM?

What's the benefit of the R7 1700X over the 1700? Doesn't the lower tdp mean you can overclock it better?

>>59345108
X versions are unlocked.

>>59345108
temps, apparently 1700x has less heat than oc 1700
otherwise both at 3.9 perform identically
power consumption is the same, so really, if you got silent enough cooler 1700 is the only choice

>>59345194
weekend /g/, huh

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$ 60 Baby Lake Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-core w/HT
$ 78 Asrock B250M Mobo
$112 Corsair 1x16GB DDR4-2400, CAS 14
$157 Samsung NVMe M.2 SSD 256GB (300K/100K R/W IOPS)
$230 EVGA GTX 1060 6GB
$ 31 Bitfenix Case
$ 57 Seasonic 550W 80+ Gold PSU
------
$725

Purpose: Learning data science (statistical modeling, neural nets,).
Single-threaded CPU workloads.
Priority: high Nvidia GPU RAM with decent $/GB.

Amidoinitrite

>>59345270
>Purpose: Learning data science (statistical modeling, neural nets,).
>EVGA GTX 1060 6GB

>>59345270
Forgot link:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FwcQgL

>>59345290
Not meme-teir speech- or image-recognition with high memory requirements, anon.

>>59345304
>Not meme-teir speech- or image-recognition with high memory requirements, anon.
1060 is overkill, though not a bad choice if you really want the latest stuff.

>>59344104
Does RAID still kill TRIM?

>>59345314
As I understand it, there are three crucial specs:

1. memory capacity (GB)
2. memory bandwidth (GB/s) is the speed bottleneck
3. Pascal architecture makes a huge difference

I am excited to see if Nvidia uses HBM in its next generation like AMD, or if they're going to cripple consumer-level cards for neural net programming like they are so keen to do.

>>59344815
Would that be a problem for AMD systems?

>>59345194
What

>>59345196
X means xtreme, anon.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7XYpRG

How's this? Is 1070+ necessary for 1440p?

Also gonna get an SSD to boot off of just didn't list it

Which brand do you guys recommend for the GTX1070?

>>59345780
MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, Zotac

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Im thinking about upgrading to a higher latency monitor, im stuck with 1368x768 and 1920x1080p monitors, what I want to know is do Freesync and G-sync do anything worth their price?
I want to upgrade to the next GPU architecture, maybe in a year or two so I just want a monitor to play rocket league and TF2 and Paladins with high fps.

BenQ 24" ZOWIE XL2411, 144Hz is what i've been looking at. How does it fare against a Asus 24" MG248Q Full HD

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What do you think about this entry level build? Case is still undecided. Pc is for my gf, so AAA titles are very very rare.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLLtsJ
Is there anything particularly retarded about this?

Some i7 7700k vs i5 7600k gaming benchmarks show the i7 having an advantage of 30 fps and sometimes more yet different benchmarks of same game shows i7 having similar fps to i5. Both were at stock speed. What should I believe?

Is it worth getting the 4gb version of the RX 460 over the 2gb version? The price difference between them here is 15 euros.

>>59347340
>buying an RX 460 at all

>>59343670
Will she ever come back one day?

>>59347294
different benchmarks, different settings, different other components

>>59346019
What kind of minimum latency are you looking for?
>>59347340
What's the base price, doofus

>>>59347615
well my gtx 960 can play rocket league, tf2 and paladins about 200 fps so i'd like atleast 100hz but i read that both those monitors I linked have some bad features that make them not worth getting. My budget is only like 300-500€ at best.

100hz for 100fps I think would be a safe bet

Newfriend here anyone have any builds for gayman at high settings shit like total war warhammer that wont break the bank?

>>59347711
CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz/ AMD FX 8350
CPU Speed: Info
RAM: 3 GB
OS: Windows 7/8.1/10 64Bit
Video Card: (DirectX 11) AMD Radeon R9 270X 2048MB / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 2048MB @ 1080p

>>59347711
whats your bank limit you dumb fuck
buy used

>>59347761
>>59347747
1.2k

>>59347571
So the i7 7700k does have a huge advantage over the 7600k?

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>>59347634
Idk I found this online. I recommend you research first.

In motherboards with several RAM slots, is there a max capacity limit per slot?
Say, if a mobo has
> 4 x 1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets supporting up to 8 GB of system memory
does that mean I'm welcome to shove a single 8 GB module in it if I like, or 2 x 4 GB or whatever, or would it accept nothing bigger than 2 GB in each slot?

>>59347562
>She

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/rNTwrH/great-gaming-build

Is this a good build?

>>59347785
Yes, 100 more don't you see?

Probably not, you could get a haswell i7 4790 and you wouldn't notice the difference. Since amd couldn't compete until now, intel has gone full lazy mode these last years.

>>59344041
None of the ryzen chips have iGPUs. The APUs come out later.

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>tfw christmas rose videos were the highlight of my 2016
lol jk fags, this tranny is pretty cute, but deleting my rose folder was probably the best 4chan related thing I've ever done. Have fun wanking to grandma rose and pappy nataroo in a few years.

>>59347766
>>59347711
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/khcQgL
manufacturers might be shite and i didnt check the mobo for all the connections. Check yourself if the processor has a stock cooler, if it doesnt get a cheap blower, Also exhaust and intake fans for the case if they dont come with it.

>>59347805
thanks man that lead me to a 300€ 1080p screen

>>59343670

>The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB for 1080p

Really? So people buying 1070 or 1080 now waste money?

Also - why Sapphire RX480 Nitro+ OC gets so hot so fast and how to deal with that? 50C on idle, 75C during load and sometimes reach 82C.

With GPU-Z I noticed that mine sometimes reach voltage 1,185 V, is that normal too?

>>59348002
the price for 1070 and 1080 is absurd compared to the little performance gains over 1060 or 480
it could be argued that the gtx 1080ti is the worthwhile purchase instead of 1070 or 1080

>>59348002
>Really? So people buying 1070 or 1080 now waste money?
If they have 1080p screen, pretty much.

I'm curious as to why there's a Wi-Fi adapter in all the saved pcpartpicker builds.

>>59348032

Because people want to connect their desktops with wi-fi instead of cable?

I prefer cable but all my co-workers would rather use wi-fi instead because they like to have least number of cables possible.

>CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i5-7500 3.40GHz 6MB

>GPU:GeForce® GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5

>RAM: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory

>MOBO:ASRock Z270M-ITX/ac mITX w/AC WiFi, USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 4 SATA3, 1 M.2 SATA/PCIe

Is this gud?

>>59348247
>Z270
Why? Just get B250.

>>59347615
The RX460 2GB is 135 while the 4GB is 150

>>59348002
>>59348010
>>59348012

What about those temperatures? Anybody got ideas?

I'm looking to upgrade my GPU soon to play Nier Automata on max. Currently I have a GTX 670. Thing is, I'm out of the country atm and won't be able to play til I return in May to where my PC is. By then, should I get a GTX 980 Ti? Heard the prices were going to drop and it's an efficient upgrade. I don't really play any other games which have high graphics req.

>>59348359
Just get a 1050 Ti, it's like 35% faster than the 460 while only being 20-30 bucks more expensive

>>59348393
fan curve or drivers or bad airflow in the case

>>59348399
just think about it when you get back, it will only get cheaper now

>>59348409
I don't want to get an Nvidia GPU because I don't want to give up on my freesync monitor.

>>59348473
Then get a 470 or a 480, it will be worth it.

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Which 1060 should I get? I heard Palit and Zotac are shit. I also heard MSI have some VRM cooling problems. Asus Strix looks nice but kinda overpriced for what it is. I'm kinda confused.

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>>59348441

Its pretty fresh card so I dont think its damaged yet. Drivers are latest.

Case - Corsair 200R - looks like on the pic.

>>59348514
The thing is, the cheapest RX470 available here costs 240 and the cheapest RX48- costs 250. So getting a 470 is out of the question. Is the RX480 worth the 100 extra euros over the RX 460?

Good GPU to pair with my i5 4460?

Something that's cheap, power efficient and can do 1080p60fps with High - Ultra settings.

>>59348546
fan curve is the curve in which the GPU Fans respond to the temperature, as in if its 30celsius they spin at 0% and if its 80celsius they spin at 100% while throttling.
I suggest installing MSI Afterburner or some other GPU tweaking program and find a working fan curve for you GPU.

>>59348658

Well, its idel temperature is 50C, but I noticed that it try to keep around 72-75C and only adjust fan speed when loaded.

But according to GPU-Z, in heaviest load yet it didnt go over 60% fan speed yet, but could that be that GPU-Z have wrong data? I mean, that 60% is 2200 rpm.

If quad cores are going out the window, what would be a good 6 or 8 core cpu for 4k?

>>59348783

RY ZEN

For 1440p is 1070+ necessary?

Thoughts on the 1050 Ti?

>>59348790
What about the 5820k?

>>59348900
yes

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>>59349035

RY
ZEN

>>59348933
Depends on how much more expensive 470 is. 1050 ti is great if your PSU sucks, otherwise the price/performance doesn't look too good.

Damn, I plan to build a Ryzen-X370 based PC next week and I don't know which motherboard to choose. I am now in favor of Asus Prime as it has muh USB 3.0 ports, but MSI Gaming Pro Carbon seems to have better RAM speed support. Which one should I choose, or should I have better choice?
Don't tell me to buy Gigabyte boards because I can't find any of them in where I live.

>>59348783
>>59349035
>>59349052

Oh and make it the R7 1700.
It's basically a 1800x when you OC it with lower TDP.

>>59349050
Recommended cpu with 1070?

>>59349189
Thanks anon.

>>59349238
i5 7500 is fine. If you have more money go for i7 7700K and Z motherboard.

>>59348546

Would a single fan at the bottom be enough to improve airflow for the GPU so it wont pump hot air at chip?

>>59347806
It depends on the motherboard *and* the memory you use.

Good motherboards have "Qualified Vendor Lists" (QVL) where you will see memory made by several companies tested. Notice how some brands don't work in all slots. You should always stick to QVL memory, otherwise you might have some nasty surprises.

My old Sabertooth 990FX R1 couldn't get all its slots filled with 4x4GB Kingston ValueRAM. HyperX solved the problem, it was rated for 1600MHz, and it worked flawlessly at 1333 with a 1100T. Now that computer is at my brother's home.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FXtDKZ

>>59348546
>CPU has a great heatsink and a great big fan
>GPU has a shitty garbage stock fan and heatsink
>PSU at the bottom
>motherboard looks like a fucking twig
I'll never understand

>>59349539
Thanks! Didn't know such thing as QVL exists.
Perhaps I'd be taking that in consideration if building something new, nice and shiny.

Yet probably I can't care less about about it when dealing with an ancient mobo on near-zero budget. In this case,
> http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-EP35-DS3-rev-21#support-dl
in the list there are only two 2GB things mentioned, of which one is not to be found anywhere and the other has a price per piece such what a pair of cheapest available 4 GB modules cost.

So yeah, nasty surprises don't matter to me, but is there some general rule of how and whether the maximum RAM capacity per slot correlates with maximum supported by mobo? If the total max is 8 GB and I want 8 GB in there, am I free to put 1 x 8 GB or 2 x 4 GB, or nothing but 4 x 4 GB?

Ah yes btw I'm aware of how I should put pairs of identical modules in color-matched slots for dual-channel mode to work inb4 someone points me to that.

>>59347766
Used video card + Ryzen platform. Unless you have absolutely no intention of using the computer for more than gaming. Then buy a 7700K and whatnot.

>>59350118
Get and SSD. I'd never build a PC in 2017 without an SSD. It's the single most important upgrade you can get.

>>59349238
For a gaming rig CPU is pretty much irrelevant. Especially if you plan on using 1440p.

Just get the cheapest i5.

>>59349149
Best mobo from price/perf standpoint is asrock killer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

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The only thing this computer needs to do is use the internet. What PSU is suitable for this kind of power draw and isn't total crap. Open to case suggestions too, seems a little large. HTPC is a better choice?

>>59350670
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NwQypg/seasonic-power-supply-ss300etbronze

>>59350670
You should get a cheaper mobo. Just get the cheapest one available it doesn't matter with such low wattage.

>>59350670
And I'd use the money you save on the mobo to get 8GB RAM.

With Windows & Chrome you go through 4GB fast.

>>59350793
>computer only for shitposting
>still uses Windows
I should hope no-one on /g/ is dumb enough to do that. If all you do is browse internet(and other basic shit like listening to music), there's no reason whatsoever to use Windows.

>>59349535

Please respond ;_;

>>59350231

I dont understand your post either.

I mean, you suggest me to replace GPU cooling system or what? Also, PSU is mounted at the botom of every single case I saw recently. Some people claim it allows it to inhale air from the outside (cooler) instead of air from the inside the case. Still, I would be able to get case with PSU mounted at the top anyway.

And whats wrong with motherboard?

>>59350895
Nice cable management faggot.

The 480 is just a hot card and the Nitro version even more so. Hitting 80C during load is nothing out of the ordinary, especially since all those wires make the front fan worthless.

Anyway it's nothing to worry about these cards can handle 80c easy all day long.

An exhaust fan at the bottom will probably help a bit.

>>59350985

Too bad that I cant hide those cables more anyway. No space left at the back, I had problems with closing the case from that side.

Exhaust fan you say? I thought that I shouldr ther pump the outside air inside the case from the bottom, but if you say so, I guess it makes sense too (I mean, air at the bottom gets warmer not only from GPU but also from HDDs as well).

I don't want to SLI because I think multi-GPU is silly, but 2 GPUs looks so much better... why is life like this.

>>59351045
GPU fan blows hot air at the bottom and you want to exhaust that.

Intake fan would just fuck up the airflow and push the hot air back on the GPU

Would you reccomend the asus dual gtx 1070 for 400 euroshekels ?

>>59351111
Only if you have a 1440p monitor. It's overkill for 1080p.

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>>59351092

Oh. I thought that GPU fan pump air at the chip and exhaust it at the back, like on pic. Thanks.

Could I get some REAL stats on whether it's worth buying 3200mhz RAM? As opposed to just buy 2400mhz ones. DDR4.

Monitors:
>benq gw2470h
>LG 24MP68VQ

>>59350765
I think that was the cheapest one that's 200 series.
>>59350858
It's not for me, idk if my grnadparents can handle any kind of linux. In retrospect, it's probably a way better idea to buy skylake or something that can have windows 7. That should bring the price down too.

hey guys, what is a good motherboard and RAM to pair with i5 6600k?

>>59351586

forgot to add - for 1080p gaming

>>59343670
I'm going to be gutting my AMD FX-6300 rig and putting these parts in instead.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N9Y6LD

Or something along those lines. Any tips?

>>59351586
literally any z series motherboard retard

I have a Powerbook G3 that starts up but doesn't go past the start up screen. I would love to gut it and put in something so I can still use it. Suggestions?

>>59351190
You won't get any because 3200mhz RAM are a meme.

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>>59351728
Completely untrue. My 3200mhz RAM is banana and let me do anything I want.

Have fun buying 2400mhz outdated RAM that won't run shit in 2 years.

>>59351652
If you actually want to overclock then get a non-shitty cooler, that thing is pretty much stock tier nowadays.

>>59347562
She did, 2 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzvl_2jTwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUbcdTSRf1Y

Been making adjustments, here's my first build so far. Going to be using for graphic design / gaming / casual use. Trying to save some money, obviously, and not go all out.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cwX9BP

I'm trying to decide if I should start out with an HDD or SSD and get the other later. or just both. Why is it that people usually get both? Just more space with one more accessible?

>>59351803
I don't really have a desire to overclock, just need something that's cheap and works.

>>59351857
Sometimes 7600 are as cheap as 7500 so look around.

For storage if you can't afford both get SDD and buy a HDD later. SSD is for OS, progs and games. HDD for files.

You may also completely skip SSD if you don't care about loading times.

Zotac 1070 for $340 http://m.ebay.com/itm/292041166887?_mwBanner=1

I have 2133 ram would it be worth wild to upgrade to 2400? I have a z170 board and a i5-6600k

>>59352065
Isn't Zotac something like Palit tier? Or it's better?

>>59343670
Stop posting this disgusting piece of trash. He should be crucified and burned.

>>59352125
Not sure but the deal is tempting.

How is this 480? https://jet.com/product/MSI-VCX-RX-480-ARMOR-8G-OC-Aamor-Radeon-RX-480-GDDR5-8G-256B-DVI-I-2xHDMI-2xDP/b9e28f96aa9f469fbf27c4f3d65d5ab9

I have a fx-6300. Is upgrading to a 8350 even worth it for today or should I try something newer like a ryzen cpu? I'm probably thinking of getting a 480 or 1060 to go with whatever cpu.

So, I've finally decided to upgrade my PCs gtx 670 to run new games on higher settings, since the 670's starting to show its age. Im looking for a card near 600 bucks, so I was considering the asus gtx 1080. But then I noticed that the 1080ti came out at only 700 and better then a titan. Unfortunately, it's out of stock and I kinda dont want to wait not knowing when amazons getting more since my uni's break starts next week and I wanna game. Generally, I'm planning to probably replace this card in maybe 3-6 years depending. Advice? Just get a 1080 now? Wait for a ti? Maybe eventually run a second 1080 in sli? Get a whole different card?

A friend has 900€ to spend. I made a list but it doesn't get lower from 1040€ with an i5-7600K, Z270, 480 8GB, etc.

I'm making another list, with almost the same except for the CPU and mother board. It would be the i5-7500 and then a non Z motherboard. The problem I have is that I don't know what are the differences between H, B and Q motherboards, I only know that B and Q are for business, but I don0t know the practical differences. Which one should I get?

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First time building a PC, this worked out £860 ($1046)

How did I do?

>>59352725
piece of shit.

>>59352725
Seems overpriced, that GPU is low teir.

Will the 1600X be out till April 2?

>>59352725
You can save money by getting a different mobo

>>59352725
>locked CPU with z-chipset
>z270 chipset with 2133MHz RAM
>an i5 paired with an entry-level GPU
>crap PSU
>no SSD
>£860
It's terrible, as expected from a prebuilt.

>>59352725
>motherboard for overclocking
Just get a cheap one, what the hell are you doing?
>16gb of ram
Is nice but isn't it better to use that 8gb money for better card considering your
>1050ti
piece of shit? It's fucking 2017, dude. Fucking 1060 is barely enough now
>DVD
...really?
>Corsair
Shit.

>How did I do?
I'm afraid anon can't change anything now.

I feel bad for him.

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Friend of mine is looking to upgrade parts of his pc. Any obvious upgrades other than the ram?

>>59352877
throw it all in the garbage and buy a new computer.

>>59352877
He should probably look into getting an entirely new system instead, DESU.

>>59352901
>>59352908
Yea that was what I was already thinking to be honest.

Should I wait for DDR5?

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build a better PC for $1000
some gaming, some dev shit(compiling, running VMs), very light CAD

>>59353063
how about you get a psu that wont burn your house down.

>>59352788
>>59352816
These were pretty much the best options given to me by the PC specialist website without it being too expensive, and that motherboard for example was just the standard option. Is there a better place to get one built in the UK? I don't to build myself because I'm pretty retarded.

>>59343986
Don't bother with 6700 and get the k, you are literally spending the same price for that

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tHkGwV
Change some things

>>59353077
already have a zalman PSU from previous builds

>>59353035
Absolutely

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What should I be going for?
>1x16GB RAM
>2x8GB RAM
>4x4GB RAM

>>59353108
>from previous builds
so how about you get a psu that wont burn your house down.

>>59353114
1x16 if you plan on upgrading later.

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Anyone help me figure out what I need for an external display to show CPU/GPU temps?

Im assuming: LCD display and a Raspberry PI board, but how do I get the info from the PC to show up on the LCD display?

>>59353094
i5 7500
gtx1060 6gb
asus B250
8gb 2400mhz

Ok few questions gonna get 1070ti should I get 4k monitor 1440p dual of some sort? Is the scaling bad on 4k? Amd or Intel? I have been reading alot of shill benchmarks from both sides

I mean 1070 sorry don't know why I put ti is 1080 to coming out soon?

>>59353094
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WtVq9W

get a cheaper case if u want.

get a better cooler if u want.

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How stupid is it to put beer in your cooling loop?

>>59343670
Does the MasterAir Pro 4 come with paste or will I have to buy some? I'm already past my budget

>>59353218
it will work about the same.

>>59353218
Bad for your parts in the long run.

Looking to upgrade to a better PC in the near future. Budget isn't really an issue. I'd like to run intensive games like ARMA 3 and such at the highest settings possible on a 144hz 1080p monitor. In the future I'd like to upgrade to a 21:9 monitor though and maybe use the 1080p monitor in portrait mode. Wat do?

>>59353218
Fuck off weeb I hope it leaks while your jerking to hentai

>>59343670
What monitor should I get if I want a 25", 1440p monitor with color accuracy? I don't care about memesync.

>>59353218
Well, alcohol is slightly acidic and has lower boiling point than water... I really don't see that ending well.

>>59353283
I don't even watch anime, I just post these pictures to get replies.

>>59353114
1x16 or 2x8. never completely fill up your dimm slots with one kit unless you want more than 16 gb

>>59353063
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XtxLYr

ATX or miniATX?

What's the difference, really? A lot of miniATX have as much RAM slots as ATX boards.

>>59353574
none if you dont plan on using the extra pci slots.

>>59353574
SLI

If I buy a founders 1080 ti now, will I be able to find an AIO cooler for it later?

Or will I have to wait for the 1080 ti with built in AIO cooler to be sold?

>>59347805
>follow flow chart for shits and giggles
>...
>oh hey thats the monitor I have

Guess I done did good.

>>59353564
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XtxLYr
worse multithreading, better singlethreading, worse cooler and SSD, p much the same GPU, I don't get the point

>>59353248
can i get response plox

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Should I?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pcCpRG

How long is it going to be before third party 1080tis are available?

>>59353821
it comes with it.

also you have serious financial problems if you cant afford 5 dollar thermal paste.

>>59353836
the 7700k is 300 dollars so you might as well get the k-version.

get a better case with dust filters.

where is the gpu and cpu cooler?

get a 240 gb SSD.

>>59353836
Can you live with only 120gb?

>>59353859
oh. forgot aftermarket thermal paste existed. i thought i was going to have to opt for a more expensive cooler. god fucking dammit

>>59353884
>he uses more than 10 gigs of disk space

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>>59353836
>that ram
>that ssd
>that cheap ass case
>that shit outdated housefire psu

>>59347785

The 7700k has hyper threading and a higher stock clock. That's it. If you overclock the 7600k to the same speed as the 7700k the only difference is hyper threading, which isn't something many games utilize.

>>59353878
>get a better case with dust filters.
I don't know shit about cases, I just picked that one because it was cheap, looked nice and already had fans.
If anyone has recommendations or advice for cases please tell me.

>where is the gpu and cpu cooler?
I plan on getting the GPU at a later date because I don't want to settle for a RX right now. I'd like to get a nice nvidia card in like 1-2 months.

>get a 240 gb SSD.
Is 240/256GB the best price/GB ratio at the moment?

>>59353884
No but I'd get 2TO at a later date it's fine, I still have a old HDD with all my files which will suffice for now. The SSD is for the OS, progs & games.

>>59353943
Aside from the case I don't see anything wrong with the rest.

>>59354008
get a case from fractal design or just google "computer case with dust filters" and try and pick something out.

240-500 gb ssd is the best value imo.

ram is almost all the same price, pick up some g-skill 5 ram or something.

get a cheap ass 10 dollar cooler to go with the 7700k.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mt8F3F
recommend me a cheaper cooler. i wont be doing major overclocking, maybe 100MHz

Convince me not to buy the LG 24UD58-B

>>59354169
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kbKJPs

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bv3cFd
Anything to change?

>>59353943
>that ram
>that shit outdated housefire psu
explain

>>59353850
bump i guess

Is it gonna be fucking april?

>>59354053
>g-skill 5 ram
I just know about how one should go for the lowest CAS possible and about mhz. I don't know about the rest.

I suppose mine are g.skill 4 and so 5 are more recent?

If I get a 7700k I'm thinking of investing into a good cooler though, that shit runs too hot while the 7700 has pretty good watt/heat values in comparison.

>>59354257
even if they come out in april stock will be very limited.

And of course they will be G1 /ROG/FTW /SC models and all that which will carry their own premiums for the higher clock and memory speeds

>>59354213
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GrDCKZ

get a used 1080 for 400 dollars if u can find one.

>>59354270
>If I get a 7700k I'm thinking of investing into a good cooler though, that shit runs too hot while the 7700 has pretty good watt/heat values in comparison.
7700k is still better even with a shit cooler.

How would I update my bios on a Z270 motherboard to make it compatible with Skylake?

>>59354363
I used the flash drive method.

>>59354363
Do you mean Z170 and Kaby lake? Because z270 is compatible with skylake out of the box.

>>59354363
>Z270 and Skylake
Why not just get a Z170 board?

How good is the Seasonic SSR-550RM compared to the EVGA Supernova G2, both at 550 watts?
>>59354461
oh, some retarded anon told me yesterday that it wasnt

>>59350454
Do you remember what I said about nasty surprises?

As far as I remember, LGA775 has a limit of 4GB total, and that memory must be single rank, that is, with memory chips in just one side, or else it will not work. If you have 2GB,then get another two, but check if the module has chips on both sides or not.

And I also think two slots form a bank, so, ideally, you should get two sticks from the same model, or risk problems.

REEEE i7-6700K ONLY SUPPORTS UP TO 2133 MHz
i7-7700K IS TOO EXPENSIVE AND OVERPOWERED FOR MY NEEDS BUT SUPPORTS OVER 2400 RAM

>>59354296
>7700k is still better even with a shit cooler.
OK. 7700k and B250 are compatible right?

I have a Seasonic S12II 620W PSU and a 1100T with 16GB of RAM. What videocard should I get to more or less balance it for 1080p games, and get perhaps more two years of life from it?

Consider that a videocard bottlenecked by this CPU would be overkill. Perhaps RX 480 8GB?

>>59354538
WTF memory speed is dependent on the motherboard.

>>59354541
>OK. 7700k and B250 are compatible right?
Compatible? yes.
You should? not at all.

Get a Z270 motherboard.

>>59354490
Seasonic PSUs are great, they just tend to be on the expensive side(the ones actually carrying seasonic brand, that is, not the all of the ones they manufacture) and aren't recommended very often because of that.

I have 2133 ram is upgrading to 2400 or higher worth it? My mb is an Asus z170 pro gaming and my CPU is a i5-6600k

>>59354593
wait really? then why do jewtel put memory specifications on their specs page? https://ark.intel.com/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz

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I need a new fully modular PSU. Any brands that I should avoid?

>>59354690
Rosewill, EVGA's NEX series

My heavy GPU keeps sagging like my ex's tits. What do?

>>59354623
I don't see the point if I don't want to OC and am fine with 2400hz RAM though.

>>59354732
Then why you are getting a K CPU?

>>59354763
7700K is noticeably faster and just slightly more expensive.

Has anyone here bought a PC off craigslist before? Is shit like this too good to be true: https://corvallis.craigslist.org/sys/6026653942.html?

>>59354820
Yup. I'd say you're in the clear. I got a PC with a 970 and 4790k for $600 so it's not far fetched.

>>59354857
What would compel someone to build a PC and then sell it in a month for less than the sum of its parts?

>>59354895
Too much money to burn or they gave it to a normie relative.

>>59354895
Buyers remorse, got into the hobby and decide it wasn't his thing, etc...

Lightly used Fury X for $300. y/n?

>>59354974
Unless you want to burn your house down, no.

>>59354538
Isn't it only like $30 more?

>>59354895

Possibly the fun of building it.

Difference between Samsung 750 and 850 EVO SSD?

The 850 says "3D" in the specs but no idea what that means. It's also 10 bucks more expensive.

>>59354725
Several solutions exist, from DIY to brackets and holders. You can look for those words, GPU sagging on a search engine, it is the proper name for it.

I bought laptops off CL, usually at Walmart parking lot or train station, TS a bit more sketchy

>>59343670
Just buy a macbook and actually get laid. done.

Help me pick a Z270 board please. Among the less expensive one possible if possible (around 100-130 bucks).

Is the ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 DirectX 12 ZT-P10700I-10P 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3
worth it for $340?

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/LividAlpaca/saved/LckRBm

It's Purpose: Moderate gaming/streaming, ability to render in 3-D environments, video/picture editing.

It's Priority: Ability to fit into a original Xbox case (pic related)

How do I find out if a video card requires a UEFI system?

>>59355895
Or you could not do this. Because it's retarded.

>>59355675
bump

>>59355895
I hope you're good with tools, you're going to need to mod the xbox case, also i don't have my xbox on hand but the cooling probably won't be optimal. Also i don't know if the gpu will fit, might want to look for a low profile card, something like this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O3DjDUFqdc

>>59356319
>>59355675
Yes, it is!

Would an i5-7600 and a GTX 1080Ti be good to handle most gaymes nowadays?

>>59356467
Alright i'm on it. link for anyone else who wants one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/292041166887

>>59356558
Depends on the resolution, the refresh rate and the game. My i5 is bottlenecking me pretty hard in Overwatch at 2k and 144Hz.

>>59356592
OK what about a 1080Ti and i7-7700 or maybe Ryzen? Trying to play at 1440p 144Hz G-Sync or w/e

>>59356612
Doesn't get much better than an i7-7700. Ryzen is going to be fine too.

Would a i5-6600k bottle neck a 1070 or 1080? I'm eyeing and upgrade now that those cards are dropping in price.

>>59356696

Not if you overclock it.

>your motherboard is dual channel, so there is no advantage to selecting four chips instead of two
What did he mean by this?

>>59356733
I'm fine with overclocking, thank you for the reply.

whats a cheap-ass g4560 build? no need for a gpu

>>59356745

Memory channels. If you have a dual channel motherboard then the most sticks you need for optimal performance is two, one for each channel. If you have a quad channel motherboard then you need four sticks, again one for each channel. So while on a quad channel motherboard there is an advantage to having four sticks of RAM there is no such advantage on a dual channel board. On a dual channel board four sticks only means you have two sticks per channel, with no performance increase over two sticks.

if my mobo just allows a certain amount of ram velocity (lets put 1900Mhz) and i want to put some 2400Mhz ram in it, will the mobo be able to use the ram sticks correctly? i just wanted to future proof my build for now just having the ram for later on. Also, which is the sweetspot for Mhz/$ now?

>>59356777
Get the cheapest components possible, it's not rocket science

Can someone reccomend me a monitor for a first build? Was looking at the Asus VX228H (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBw323/asus-monitor-vx228h) and the AOC G2260VWQ6 (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hqmxFT/aoc-monitor-g2260vwq6) but the second one is out of stock on Newegg.

Does /pcbg/ have any suggestions for a monitor?

>>59356809

When you by 2400mhz RAM you're not buying faster RAM, you're buying RAM that is confirmed to be able to overclock to that speed. The default speed for DDR4 RAM is 2133mhz, so even if you put a 3200mhz kit in there it will run at 2133mhz until you overclock it.

So yes, it will work. The exception is if your motherboard only supports DDR3 and you want to use DDR4 memory.

>>59356785
Oddly, some dual channel motherboards can get higher bandwidth with four sticks. Can't remember the reason. Nothing like true quad channel.

>>59356846
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hqmxFT/aoc-monitor-g2260vwq6
I like the second one better and its in stock at jet.com, also when you make an accont there you get a promo code for 15% off your first 3 orders. I got my 1080p 144hz screen from there for like $177.

>>59356558
>Intel
>2017
no reason to buy intel unless you are a fanboy

>>59357315
lol

>>59357336
>LOOK AT THIS GRAPH INTEL IS CLEARLY BETTER

go away shill

>>59356785
>On a dual channel board four sticks only means you have two sticks per channel, with no performance increase over two sticks.

Still, having 4x4 16GB over 2x4 8GB on a dual channel board is still better, right? Otherwise why would dual channel boards even bother having 4 slots.

>in the market for a new gpu, $400 USD to spend
>want to play 1080p 144hz on medium settings for at least most games

im looking at the EVGA SC (black) and the MSI Armor
does anyone have either of these cards/recommendations for other cards?

im mainly considering the EVGA card because i have bought two MSI cards so far over the years and i have had no luck with them

>>59357346
Amd shill?

How does this look for a first attempt? Mostly want it for very good 1080 for under 900 sans monitor.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xnc6LD

>>59357401
Get a 1070.

>>59357413
Intel shill?

>>59357414
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xnc6LD
pirate windows and then get a better gpu like the 8gb 480 version.

>>59357414
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w4KJPs

Its about $200 more but way better

>>59357401
>>59357428
forgot to say theyre both 1070s im looking at

>>59351652
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N9Y6LD

here i made it better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xn3cFd

BenQ XL2411Z or ASUS VG248QE?

>>59357538
>>59357506
I considered the ryzen, but that plus 16gb of ram feels like over kill for the 1080p I want. I did switch the gpu to the XFX 8GB though.

>>59357602
BenQ, ANUS a shit

>>59357637
Its $200 for something signifiacantly better, take it from someone stuck on haslel who had to buy overpriced ddr3 because 8gb wasnt cutting it any more, getting 16gb now will be better now then latter

>>59357700
>significantly better

LOL

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jqYPcc
Please rate. It's going to be used for gayming, programming and anime watching.

>>59357721
fuck off intel shill, no one asked you

>>59357349
>Otherwise why would dual channel boards even bother having 4 slots.

Expansion. If you have a 2x8GB kit you can double it up later. If you have a 4x4GB kit you're stuck.

>>59357401
I haven't heard if EVGA actually fixed their house fire cards yet.

>>59357727
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jqYPcc

here https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qsbsWX
how have fun watching chinese cartoons

>>59357768 is an AMD shill. Ignore.

>>59357793
>being this mad that people recommend amd
sounds like aspergers

I lined this up forever ago when I thought I was going to get a computer for college in 2011

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZHnCZ8

>>59357727
What you have is fine if you're only doing really light stuff and mongolian cartoons

>>59357819
and its fucking horrible

Can anyone recommend a cheap $100-150 23-24" monitor that has low input lag. This is for work travelling so I'd be willing to even go to 22". I have a 27" 1440p monitor, but with the stand its way too heavy/bulky to take with me.

This would primarily be for PS4 and work (laptop hdmi) so only 60hz needed.

Basically I want the lowest input lag possible, image quality and other features come second. I play mostly fighting games and some shooters.

>>59357768
This build is pure autism.

>>59357918
Asus should have you covered with some cheap ass 24VH whatever monitor.
Virtually no inputlag, but the one i had years ago had horrible ghosting which was annoying on maps like dust2.

>>59347884
>having a Rose folder in the first place
>redlettermedia

I for one am just happy that she is (apparently) back.

>>59357925
how?

>>59357957
asus is shit, no one should ever by that garbage

RX 480 8GB or GTX 1060 6GB? I noticed prices were the same now.

Or should I wait for a better card?

>>59358078
RX 480 or wait if you can

>>59358095
But the GTX seems better in every ways?

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-480-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/3634vs3639

>>59355503
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128986&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

>>59358116
>userbenchmark
garbage site

>>59351719
Anyone?

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>>59358116
it isnt

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I need a new graphics card, something that can run games on max settings at that smooth/near 60fps (and hopefully won't bottleneck). I may in the coming year or so get a 1440p or 4k monitor. I'm willing to replace the new card it in 3-6 years depending, and spend $500-600.

>>59358230
RX 480 for 1440p
GTX 1080 ti for 4K

>>59358187
>>59358229
What's a good site for CPU comparisons?

>>59358349
something that isn't userbenchmark newfag

Why are these threads filled with literal children

>>59358393
Because of console fags immigrating to pc

My gtx 750ti just died and I'm looking for a new gpu. The rest of my system specs are asus h97 plus mb, 8gb 1600 ram. I was wondering if I should put a 1050ti or an rx 470 or maybe 480 in this or should i consider a different card?

>>59358410
go for a rx 470

>>59358246
I was considering a ti for the extra 100, but amazon is out with no indicator of restocking when, and I want something bad for new games. Is the RX 480 that solid at only 200-300? Can your run two? Is that even worth it? How does it stack up against say a 1080?

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NEW THREAD
>>59358549
>>59358549
>>59358549
>>59358549
>>59358549

>>59358550
The 480 is a baseline for 1440p ultra 60fps
the 1080 ti is a baseline for 4k ultra 60fps

>>59358410
If the extra few dollars for the 4GB 480 doesn't break your bank, go with that.

>>59358349
I just skim through gamegpu benchmarks, but eurogamer has some nice CPU reviews. Hardware Unboxed recently posted a video comparing the G4560, i3 7350K, i5 7600K, and i7 7700K

>>59358230
I personally I'd decide on which resolution you're getting first. If 1440p get the GTX 1070 or possibly 1080. If 4K only the 1080Ti is good enough if you want to play new games.

>>59358563
This is some ugly shit. If you delete that I'll post a nice looking version

>>59358598
FUCK YOU FAGGOT MY CHINESE CARTOONS

>>59358246
>>59358583
>The 480 is a baseline for 1440p ultra 60fps
Fuck no, this is retarded. Only esports like overwatch will run at 60FPS.

For example the new Mass Effect will need a 480/1060 just to stay above 30FPS on High at 1080p

>>59358619
I'll even repost the same pic, just a significantly better copypasta with code tags

>>59358626
i have a 290x (exact same performance as a 480) and it runs everything at +60fps ultra that i throw at it except for deus ex MD and mirrors edge catalyst

the 480 can do 1440p, but it is a bare minimum

>>59358646
just do it with the next thread

>>59358626
>caring about Social Justice: The Game

>>59358665
The 290x was a 1440p card, but that was years ago. The vast majority of new AAA games will require a more powerful graphics card at 1440p.

>>59358681
ME:A is just an example, retard

>>59358699
it still does just about everything 1440p 60fps still

>>59358714
A shit example, find something that people are actually going to play that isnt made by a white hating poojeet

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>>59358717
I'm sorry but no

>>59358792
>needing a 1080 to run 60fps 1440p
>Nvidia way its meant to be jewed
shit game, horrible optimization full of goyimworks

>>59358792
That's cool because I don't play shit with gimpworks.

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>>59358817
>>59358869
I can go on and on. Face it, the 290x/480 tier card isn't a 1440p card in [current year]. Yeah, it was great when it came out but you wouldn't buy that power now for 1440p

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>>59358792
>Gameworks

>>59358915
>>59358792
see >>59358917

Sorry I don't play ubishit so I don't have optimization/framerate problems

>>59358869
>>59358817
>>59358731
>>59358681
>>59358936
>>59358917
>a special kind of retard

>>59358951
t. i eat up SJW nonsense made by ea, and unoptimized garbage made by ubishit

>>59358968
>PLS BUY NVIDIA, IM NOT A PAID SHILL< JUST TRUST ME I KNOW MORE ABOUT YOUR GPU THAN YOU GOYIM JUST BUY A 1080TI TO PLAY THE WAY IT WAS MENT TO BE PLAYED

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>>59358972
You in denial or something, bud?

>>59358993
Go away nvidia merchant, im never buying nvidia, you are wasting your time

>>59357989
Shit cooler, shit mobo, in a huge case with a budget PSU not made to handle any OC whatsoever, paired with a single radiator housefire GPU and 3200 RAM when AM4 mobos have issues with >2400 RAM.
That's why.