/hpg/ - Headphone General

I have m40x headphones and was wondering what is a good wire to get that has a mic in it

I've been using the grado sr225i's for a while now and I really like the emphasis on the high and mid notes. What is a headphone in the $150-$250 that will be more bottom heavy?

>>59343969
Are you looking for something that's like the opposite of the sr225i, or something that's like your grado, but with more low end?

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Well the Senns and ATs are gonna get sold off, they didn't make the cut.

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>buy new headphones and audio-gd dac amp
>decide to upgrade music library as before I always got music off youtube
it's been barely two months send help

>>59344334
what are you upgrading them to?

>>59344345
Headphones and amp? or music library?
The headphones are the gen 2 t1 teslas
The dac is the NFB 11 with TCXO upgrade

The music library mainly consists of flac, DSD, and WAV files. A few of the masters are kinda bad though like bakers street sucks shit and so do a few post modern jukebox songs

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>>59344334
It gets worse.

>>59344279
Eww, 518.

"Deep bass", says it all.

HD558 or HD598 would have been decent, but HD518 are plebphones.

Redpill me on the X2s, e10k, and modmic setup

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Hey anons, are the SHP9500S' worth it for ~$75 or are they just memes?

Pic related looks comfy, should I do it?

>>59344583
75 american? pushing it at that price point.

>>59344597
Sorry, I meant $75 Canadian including tax. Are they still worth it? Or are there better headphones for under $100?

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>>59343339

>>59344614
not sure about maplebux but what I can tell you about them is that they are absolutely mediocre. they 'compete' with ~$75(US) headphones because they aren't particularly bad at anything, but like wise they aren't good at anything either. While other headphones might shoot to do a thing real well or try a gimmick only to fall off elsewhere due to cost constraints the 9500s are a very conservative design. They are basically your Toyota Camry or Honda Civic or Vanilla Ice cream. They 'win' head to head not because they truly win but because the other guy fucks up somehow.

Sound wise they are bright and lacking any bass.

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>>59344703
And because they are usually around ~$20 cheaper from their competitors a bit can be forgiven and overlooked.

Just my 2 cents for what it's worth

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>3 anime ops in a row

what to drive the DT 990 250 ohm with?

>>59345550
Any of the recommended sub $100 amps (E10K, M3, Fulla2) will be plenty

How do I go about equalizing my MDR-1A? They sound a little odd out of the box. No amp.

>>59345891
Fulla2 looks nice, but cant seem to find it in the EU online shops/sites. Shipping from the US is $50, jeez
E10K seems to recommend up to 150 ohm headphones, so I am wary of that...
For the M3 - cant find it anywhere really

>>59344380
Holy shit dude

>>59346466
>up to 150 ohm
That's just garbage on the spec sheet. The DT990 250 ohm take 100mW to power sufficiently from Beyer's spec sheet while the E10K supplies 200mW at 32 Ohms so you should be fine driving those DT 990's unless you want something more powerful to make you deaf.

>>59345550
Try what you have first? But any of these >>59345891 would already suffice if you are on a budget.

>>59344279
>didn't make the cut.
Which one did?

>>59346828
If I can connect the dots correctly from last thread, He's keeping his HE-350's with the bass port opened.

>>59345550
Fulla 2/E10k/Micca Origen+ if you dont already have a DAC
Magni 2 if you do

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Let's bring these back

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>>59347052
Whatever here's mine
Would add Jessica Chastain to waifu section but can't be bothered

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>>59347052
albums are a bit off since i rarely listen to whole albums other than when i initially acquire them
i just pick my favorite songs

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>>59347052
These cans are starting to wear down after 3 years of use but I can't decide on what else to get.

>>59347469
just get some new earpads lol
and/or a zmf/beyer pad if the headband is wearing down

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>>59347052
Sure dude.

Does anyone have interest in Knowledge Zenith earphones?

M40x or 9500s what should I get

>>59343147
just got a g930
what i am in for?

>>59347509
/csg/ loves kz shit. KZ ZS3 is best thing they make that i've heard so far. better than the ATE or even ZST

ED9 is also pretty great for soundstage

>>59346896
Yeah. He-350s, 668bs and 9500s. 350s going next to the comp, 9500s on the night stand and 668bs out in the living room.

Senns and at will most likely go to help fund some budget planars, either the 400s(maybe 400i), oppo pm-3 or m560s(I think I'll hold off on the m1060s till the next batch)

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>>59347052
Good morning, /hpg/.

>>59347487
Damn, I just remembered that you're the one, a couple years back, who had the three albums that looked like a Coke bottle, when viewed from the thumbnail.

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I have some old headphones and the pads are peeling off, kinda like pic related. (There are no replacement pads available, some really old Teac headphones.)
Is there a simple and quick way to peel this shit off completely?

>>59348689
Use ya fingers. Show us the back of the pad. Other pads may work in replacement.

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>>59347052
you have a horrible taste. especially in these 3dpd whores. literally, you have pics of $20 whores and uggo "actresses". you should kys.

Do I buy a pair of HD 558, or save up for the HD 600 + amp?

>>59348778
Save for a 600 and Magni 2

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>mfw he doesn't use the headphones from the Wall of Fame: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-over-ear-open
What's your excuse?

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>>59348700
where do I even look for pads?

>>59348801
Why are all his videos so low quality tho.

>>59348787
Source is a laptop, worth using a dac as well?

Question is, the HD 600 setup is double the price but is it twice as good?

>>59348828
Only if there is excessive noise coming from your laptop.

>>59348810
Ah, generic pads should fit. anything for M50x/MDR7506/Shure should fit, and stuff of similar size. eBay/Aliexpress are good for cheapo stuff. Just google for specific pads. Beyer DT250 velour/pleather pads are pretty great and cheap too. I think sweetwater or Thomann has them.

>>59348826
Coz the best shit is in text, you pleb. Text always wins.

>>59348845
It's not great, can a Fulla 2 drive the HD 600s reasonably well?

>>59348867
>can a Fulla 2 drive the HD 600s reasonably well?
it drives them perfectly.

>>59344703
>Sound wise they are bright and lacking any bass.

If you're expecting nigbass, sure.

>>59348467
I've just ordered a ZS3 too, $9 on gearbest. Looking forward to it.

>>59348828
>Source is a laptop, worth using a dac as well?
I have had Schiit stack. My 8 Chinese PCM2704 DAC is nearly as good as the Modi 2. Only thing I really noticed was a slight extra 'width' with the Modi 2. I sold my Modi 2 and just use the Chinese DAC now. No real sense in having something that for a tenth of the price performs 99% of the task. Next real step for me would be a DAC with optical transfer I guess.

>Question is, the HD 600 setup is double the price but is it twice as good?
No. Price to performance will almost always be reduced at higher price points. Though Chi-Fi kinda is an outlier there, it is generally the case. Its not really quantifiable as the difference can be light or day to some, or quite minute to others. Depends on your hearing.

>>59344186
looking for something the exact opposite i want a completely new experience

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Anyone know of some

Big

Wireless

Headphones I can get in Australia? From a brick-and-mortar if possible..

>>59348826
Afaik, Tyll does not own InnerFidelity. I remember reading one comment about the audio quality on one of his videos (there was a loud noise floor or something), and he replied saying that the new $1500 camera and mic he was using shouldn't be doing that, and that he'd complain to management about getting a replacement.

>>59349439
You may want to look into the Fostex T20RP mk3. Most of the darker sounding headphones I'm aware of are north of your budget.

>>59349813
He used some Canon DSLR which had either a broken mic input or some firmware issue causing that bad interference. Tyll hasn't invested into an external capture device.

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Can someone help me decide on my next headphone because I am a poorfag and I dont want to make the wrong pick.
I am looking for IN-EAR headphones around 100$ budget, what I require is the following:

1-That they do not fall out of my ear when I walk or move around (secure fit), and that they isolate decent at least.
2-Really comfortable, the type that you can wear for hours and not hurt your ears or give you headache or fatigue.
3-I dont mind if the headphones are durable, they will be tossed around between my bag and pockets, i am generally careful with my things but I want it to at least last 1 year.
4-As for sound, I am no expert but I listen to ALL sorts of music genres, I am not familiar with the terms yet but I want something fun basically with some bass, but not overkill, I dont want to ruin the enjoyment of the less bassy music.

after some research this is what I found :

~ shure se215 (Top pick so far)
~ RHA MA750 (these also seem to tick everything but I read they are very balanced and natural, not that this is a bad thing but again I dont mind some bass)
~ 1 moretriple driver (Second pick, a lot of people have been talking about these lately, their sound is superior to top two picks ? ??)
~Sennhiser momnunemt in ear (mixed reviews about this one, also build quality worries me)

`also considering these too but read they are bass light and aim for a clear signature.
~HiFiMAN RE-400
~Etymotic Research hf5

What does /hpg/ think ? I am open to any other suggestions but I need to buy these tomorrow so would love some help here.

>>59346466
schiit does direct selling in US, and in EU just through a few select distributors.

See: http://schiit.com/faq/international

>>59350383
forgot to mention that the source would be my sony xperia z3 compact.

>>59348778
Save for HD600 + Fulla2.

You want dac+amp. Fulla2 is a good dac and a decent amp.

>>59348828

>Source is a laptop, worth using a dac as well?

Yes, I suggest Fulla2. The thing about a DAC is that you might not need it for a given source. But the only way you're going to know that is by having a separate, good DAC. And then, even if your source was good in the first place, another source might be bad... with the external DAC you get good sound no matter where you plug it.

>Question is, the HD 600 setup is double the price but is it twice as good?

With audio, increased cost comes with diminishing returns. However, the HD600 is a super sweet spot, often refered to as "the only headphones you'll ever need".

I'm listening to music right now on HD600 + Schiit stack, and I do agree with that sentiment.

>>59348778
I own both and like both. But if your only buying one, save for the hd600's + Magni 2 unless you don't have a decent dac go Fulla 2

But I suggest getting hd 558 at some point.

>>59350466
How do the HD600s and 558s compare?

>>59348867
>It's not great, can a Fulla 2 drive the HD 600s reasonably well?

Yes, definitely. But not perfectly.

Fulla2 uses opamps and is not 100% flat across the frequency spectrum. It loses some dB on the higher end (not much, and some people hate treble anyway). Fulla2 is really good but not endgame.

There's no issues with the DAC though, as a DAC it is all you'll ever need.

I use Modi2Uber + Magni2Uber with my HD600. Fulla2+Magni2 would have sufficed, but I'm actually using the spdifs of the modi2 (computer via RCA, PS3 via optical, USB free for messing around), and I plan on getting some desktop speakers (plugged to the magni2uber) once I move from where I actually am.

Can someone redpill me on the Philips Fidelio X2s? Are they driveable without an amp? Are there any good alternatives?

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>>59350512
After break in, both are about equal on comfort. HD 600's took more work to get to fit right (I have a huge head).

The 558's are darker than the 600's and low end is kinda muddy but the foam mod fixes it. Sound stage is better on hd 600's but not that much. High end is is clearer on 600's. Also if you get a tube amp like little dot mk2 or darkvoice 600's are orgasmic.

I hope that kinda helps in short their frequency response is very similar but they sound is not that similar.

>>59350512

HD600 is an improvement over my old HD598.

Photograph analogy would be that HD600 is perfectly focused, whereas HD598 is very good but ever so slightly out of focus, besides slightly digitally enhanced.

I haven't touched HD558, but what I heard about it is that the bass feels considerably weak vs HD598. HD600 feels the same to me strength-wise over HD598, although I've heard opinions saying HD600 feels stronger.

And, my favourite improvement is that, while already very good in HD598, in HD600 individual instruments seem to affect other instruments less, making them easier to tell apart when listening critically.

As an aside, I used to use HD598 without an amp. Getting an amp was a bigger improvement step than getting the HD600. The importance of having an amp is often understated.

>>59350452
>mfw getting sippy listening to my 600's right now

They're fucking perfect. Think of any song you listen to often, or something nostalgic from your childhood. The hd600's make everything sound 'normal'

No other headphone has ever done that for me, though the 650's are very close.

>>59350609
Definitely agree... after break-in.

First three days, physical pain. It took me two weeks to get there, but they're comfortable now.

HD598 somehow were comfortable right away, and very comfortable after days.

Just don't be an idiot and stretch them with any other method than normally wearing them. That's where pics of broken Sennheiser headbands that get posted here from time to time do come from.

>>59350615

Chihaya's nemurihime... omfg.

Life is good.

>>59343147
Was going Mimby + Magni2Uber a bad decision? Should I have just gone M9XX?

>>59350539
>and is not 100% flat across the frequency spectrum
Any plots? Inb4 it's just the DA-converter's low pass cutting a massive 1 dB from 18 KHz onwards.

Currently using HD650s ampless, they're underwhelming, probably getting an O2+ODAC soon. Will there be a massive difference?

>>59350703
>Currently using HD650s ampless
No you're not.
>they're underwhelming
How exactly?
>probably getting an O2+ODAC soon
Pretty good gear.
>Will there be a massive difference?
How should we know? Unlikely unless the gear you have at the moment is utterly incompetent or broken.

>>59350637
huh, That did not work for me at all. I tried to let them naturally stretch for 3 weeks. Then put them on a box slightly larger than my head for two day's and they were still tight. I ended up extending each side all the way and slightly bent the metal band. Now they finally fit comfortably.

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What would you recomment to a casual non-audiophile that just wants decent headphones for both music on the phone, but also primarily for playing games or watching movies on the pc? Any go-to products you could shoot me?
Price range 100€-200€, wires preferred. I'm in germany if thats important.

I know I'm not being very specific so I'm fine with general suggestions as long as I don't get memed.
A friend recommended me pic related, they sounded nice when I tried them but the meme-aesthetic makes me sceptical.

>>59350745
Odd.

Different heads yield different results, I guess.

It might also have to do with the height... my general rule with headphones is to extend their arms as little as necessary.

>>59350754
hd598

>>59350673
Haven't found any, just theoretical due to its use of opamps.

>>59350614
>but what I heard about it is that the bass feels considerably weak

I keep hearing the opposite, the 558s are supposed to have a more "fun" sound signature than the 598s, ie they're a little warmer/bassier

>>59350754

Sennheiser HD598se + Schiit Fulla2

>>59350832
That's what I heard about HD518. The HD558 are supposedly identical to HD598, but with weak low end.

Where do you guys buy your audio equipment besides amazon. Are there any especially good sites/stores to buy from that wont meme you?

>>59350614
>The importance of having an amp is often understated.

Without memeing me, can somebody tell me without being hyperbolic, do amps really make that much of a difference to people that aren't sound engineers? I'm not an expert, a tiny nuanced change in sound is not going to impress me at all and I'll consider it a waste of money.

But if you gave a pair of headphones to a normie, played them music without and with an amp would they be able to tell a difference?

I don't want the people that "hear" a difference between 320kbps and flac tell me I desperately need to get an amp to get the most out of my headphones, because biologically speaking you fucking don't, simple as that. I'm tired of this meme, if you're older than 21 chances are you don't even hear above 17kHz.

>>59350856
Local stores because there isn't an Amazon in my country. Thomann is excellent.

>>59350816
They won't meaningfully alter the response in the audio band. Schiit reports +- 0.1dB from 20Hz to 20 KHz. The FR isn't a common issue with amplifiers anyway. It's an easy part to get right.

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Redbull me on Superlux. Why does nobody talk about them anymore?

>>59350904
Amplifiers do not matter any more to audio engineers than audiophiles. You can't use headphones without an amplifier. They either work transparently or they don't which is when you have a problem and you should consider getting a better amp.

>>59350733
>Currently using HD650s ampless

From my experience with HD600, they are lower sensitivity than the usual headphones. Meaning that, at the same volume on the source, they sound less loud.

This makes them kinda work with weak amps (all sources have amps, it's just the current they can provide to your device is limited). Kinda, because I'm sure you've probably noticed sweet volume spots, which is a symptom of the presence of distortion caused by your source not providing enough current.

You'll benefit from an actual amp because it'll be able to provide enough current for driving the HD650 at high volume, and enough gain to compensate for the low sensitivity and allow you to get plenty of volume.

>O2+ODAC

Nice and open hardware, although priced not so competitive vs the higher spec'd Schiit Stack.

What annoys me most of the O2ODAC is that if you want the power input in the back and the bigger (more reliable/durable) jack, there's a considerable price premium for that.

>>59350960
>From my experience with HD600, they are lower sensitivity than the usual headphones. Meaning that, at the same volume on the source, they sound less loud.
Yes that's what sensitivity does. But what if the volume is already enough despite the headphones' lower than average voltage sensitivity? This is something only the person owning the headphones can tell as the requirement isn't the same for all people.

>>59350931
Because everyone that initially fell for the hype of decent knockoff has by now figured the longevity isn't anywhere near the original.

I own k240mk2 since 2010? (right after they came out)
My brother owns a superlux knockoff since about 2014.
Mine as new, his headband and pads are cracking.

Sound is ok for the money tho.

redbull enough?

>>59350904

My own experience with HD598 and onboard vs Fulla2 (loaned) made me buy the Schiit Stack shortly after.

Not "probably need to ABX because psychological factor likely" bullshit, but rather, night and day difference. The sort where you can hear the difference (at aprox the same volume) with the headphones sitting on your desk, without even wearing them. Much pleasure wearing them.

Note HD598 has a really odd impedance vs frequency curve, which makes it sound very different with a properly specced (as in not computer onboard bullshit) amp.

>>59351026
Is the same true for the 558s?

>>59350997

>what if the volume is already enough
Sure, gain gets you more max volume, which you might not need.

But the main benefit is from your source being able to provide more current (amperes) at a given impedance (ohm). Which prevents the sort of distortion you'd get from headphones not being able to draw as much power as they want. The drivers do need power to move. Voltage (the signal, which determines the volume) is only one factor. The other is current.

See: >>59351026

>>59351041
Yep.

http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=2861&graphID%5B1%5D=2851&graphID%5B2%5D=573&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=30&graphType=7&buttonSelection=Update+Graph

Notice there's a huge ratio (~6:1) between the maximum and the minimum impedance in that frequency graph. Also added HD600 for reference, which while much higher impedance, doesn't have anywhere such an issue (actually lower than 2:1).

>>59350931
>Redbull me on Superlux
superlux gave them wiings

>>59350703
m8 DO NOT get the o2 for your 650's. I sold my e10k to partly fund buying one and it was a huge mistake. It sounds exactly the fucking same. The o2 can go louder, and you don't need anything louder than the e10k. It drives the 600/650's perfectly and it will take your head off. Depending on where you live, get the e10k or the fulla 2. The fulla 2 has a bit more power apparently but here in the UK it costs twice as much as the e10k.

Do.Not.Fall.For.The.Memes

>>59350904
>I don't want the people that "hear" a difference between 320kbps and flac tell me I desperately need to get an amp to get the most out of my headphones, because biologically speaking you fucking don't, simple as that.

I've ABX'd (double blind) lame 320 vs flac before, successfully, on speakers.

This was ages ago, when I was like 25. MP3 has flaws that don't go away with bitrate.

I failed to ABX vorbis -q8, however (on speakers, too).

Never tried ABX with headphones, but I'd expect it'd be easier, as there's details I heard on my current (HD600 shitstack) setup that I had never noticed with speakers, in songs I heard thousands of times.

Do the X2s need a dac or amp? Or can i drive them without?

>>59351513
all memes aside all a DAC does is take a digital signal and convert it to a analog signal. if you already have a analog signal you dont need a dac

>>59351545
I would be pluging these into the onboard audio, so idk. I am pretty new to the /hpg/ scene.

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>>59350383
anyone ??

>>59351457
Thanks man, if that's the case, I'll probably get the fulla 2.

>>59351572
yeah that's fine unless your onboard has a high noise floor or has interference noise from other mobo components, then you might need a external.

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>>59347052

>>59347416
could you elaborate on those DIY Planars?

>>59351771
Are those audeze clearly better than the 600's? if so can you describe why?

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>>59347052
Salutations!

>>59351545
There's DACs and DACs.

No two of them produces the same "analog signal".

In fact, if delta sigma, the samples given to the DAC are partially discarded (!). It still sounds very good.

Generally, you'd only need a DAC if the one in your source sucked hard. But the only way to know that is to have a good one to compare against.

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Im looking for my first audiophile headphones
>Budget
around 450 euros for about 480$
>Location
Im in the European Union.
>Source
I don't have a DAC but im open to buying one, as it stands I would be plugging them into an asus x99-a II board that has crystal sound 3.
>type
I would like full sized
>Open or Closed
I would prefer closed I think but open is also acceptable, not really sure desu.
>Comfort level
Comfort is extremely important to me
>Sound signature
I would like neutral ones ideally
>Past headphones
only usb headsets and the stuff that comes with phones
What does /g/ Recommend ? Should I get a dac too ?

>>59352056
Hd600 is the reasonable endgame.

>>59351871
nice desu

>>59352056

With your budget, go HD600/HD650 (watch reviews and decide which) + Schiit Fulla2.

>>59351851
They aren't 'clearly' better.

The pads Audeze gives you are amazing compared to Sennheisers. That having been said, the sound is relatively similar, though the Audeze's are darker. To me, It feels like the Audezes hit the mid-bass and bass frequencies better.

Unless you want the bass depth, the HD600's are fine.

>>59352267
That's good to know, especially when you factor in the ridiculous price difference. Cheers.

>>59349648
both 1000x and momentum 2 are cheap at addicted to audio rn

>>59350452
>Yes, I suggest Fulla2. The thing about a DAC is that you might not need it for a given source. But the only way you're going to know that is by having a separate, good DAC. And then, even if your source was good in the first place, another source might be bad... with the external DAC you get good sound no matter where you plug it.
You sound like a retarded audiophool.

>>59352104
would i need a dac ?

>>59352422
Schiit Fulla2 is already a DAC/AMP

>>59352422
>would i need a dac ?
don't listen to the Schiit shill. Fiio E10k is fine and much cheaper.

>>59352422
do you need to convert a digital signal into an analog one? if not, then no

>>59352422
Not if your source is analog, like a vinyl disc.

>>59352487
>Fiio E10k

Way less powerful, but fine if you're ok with chink (crap plastic, not durable).

>>59352630
>Way less powerful, but fine if you're ok with chink (crap plastic, not durable).
It's plenty powerful for HD600. I'm using it right now and my volume dial is at 3. I can't even hold it to my ears at anything above 6.

Fiio E10K has no plastic. It's all aluminum. Kill yourself you fucking shill.

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>yo dawg you need like 3 D/A converters in your signal chain to make your 240p youtube rips sound like pristine spring water from the glaciers of Antarctica
tfw to smart too fall for the dac meme

>>59352630
Not the guy you're talking to but the e10k isa solid, great looking tiny box. I use it with my 600's and I don't even need to use high gain. The 3.5mm jack is also a plus for pluggin anything like iems in too.

>>59352769
>tfw when you listen to music via on board sound rather than a cheap amp+dac

HAHAHAHAHAA

Sorry for the dumb question: I have some rock zircons with the smallest eartips. If I put the zircons way into my ear, so that they properly fit, the audio sounds muted, probably because the eartips block too much. Only if I pull out the zircons a little bit, I get a fuller sound. Do I have the wrong size of eartips, or should I get some custom ones?

>>59352769
tfw your brain is less dense then air.

>>59352685
>It's plenty powerful for HD600. I'm using it right now and my volume dial is at 3. I can't even hold it to my ears at anything above 6.

That's not power, that's gain.

>>59353029
Who gives a shit? It sounds fucking great. Loud as you'd want it and no distortions.

HD600 + shiit stack here. Will probably never upgrade.

>>59353089
No need to. I've used mine with the e10k and the odac combo and they both sounded exactly the same. I'm assuming the schit stack is incredibly similar.

>>59353089
>shiit
quit shilling overrated garbage.
https://nwavguy.blog
spot.com/2011/07/banned-at-head-fi.html

>>59353029
The o2 has a shit load more power and the sound is exactly the same with every headphone I've ever tried, so who gives a shit lmao?

>>59353041
Sure, with the HD600.

But it might have trouble with other headphones, as it provides less power.

>>59353142

He got banned for being a retard.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up

Chapter 12.

>>59353321
kys you fucking shill. hope you're getting paid.. if not, you're the lowest of the low.

>>59353140
These headphones sound decent even plugged straight to the onboard soundcard 2bh.

>>59353142
That story sucks but the magni is a perfectly fine amp so I don't care.

>>59353301
>But it might have trouble with other headphones, as it provides less power.
Which ones, shill? Can you list them. I've tried LCD-2 and HE-400i with it and had no problems. if you have more power-hungry headphones, they most likely come with their own amp.

>>59353343
>kys you fucking shill. hope you're getting paid.. if not, you're the lowest of the low.

Anon, you posted nwavguy's pov. I posted schiit's pov.

You can read both and reach your own conclusions.

>>59353421
Shiit is a PAID SPONSOR. They lie all the fucking time. And they sell overrated crap. $10 worth of components for $100. LEL. what a ripoff.

PS: Paddy, go email those assholes and ask them to pay to shitpost. Don't do it for free, you dumbfuck.

>>59353490

Fuck off, nwavguy.

>>59353598
fuck off paddy shill.

>>59353613
Unpaid :/

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How often to you plebs change your ear pads? I hope you do it at least once a month (especially during summer).

>>59353628
Never.

>>59353628
Once every 18 months.

>>59353645
Disgusting slob.

>>59353628
The pads cost only a little less than a decent pair of headphones, so I don't bother buying new ones.

>>59353652
>18 months.
Absolutely disgusting.

>>59347710
Buyer's remorse

Are the Koss Portapros a meme? They look like shit but they have to be so popular for a reason

Are the M40X or Brainwavz HM5 more comfortable? I want to get some closed back over ear headphones that aren't outrageously expensive for running/gym/cycling, because I hate earbuds and I'm currently using some cheapo AKG K518 on ears that clamp too hard, have a really short cord and are way too bassy.

>>59353628
U FOCKING WOT M8

>>59350754
Custom One Pro

>>59353628
Are you retarded? unless your trying different pads out, just clean the ones you have.

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>>59347052
Hardly ever using my headphones or posting here these days

>>59353628
I clean them every 6 months.

>>59353661
Why would I replace my pads?

They're fine.

(insert period joke)

>>59353862
Good taste in waifu and headphones.

>>59353010
You're getting a weird suction seal from the tips that changes the air pressure in your ear and makes the IEM sound muffled to your ears. Comply tips are nice if you're keeping them info for long periods of time.

How does a Fulla 2 do compare to a Magni/Modi combo? Is it worth it to pay an extra $100?

>>59353953
DAC -> the same, pretty much. Same chip and everything. Unless you go multibit modi, that is. I haven't tested multibit and don't really have an opinion there.
AMP -> magni is flat across freq, fulla2 loses a little on the high end due to its use of opamps.

The bottomline: Grab a fulla2. You can get a magni if you ever need the extra power or feel like going luxurious (the difference mentioned above is minimal).

>>59353715
They're a good price to performance phone that are relatively cheap and easy to mod. Driver replacing is also fairly cheap when SportaPros/KSC75/PortaPros all have the same drivers with the KSC75 being the cheapest at $15. I ordered a pair yesterday so I'll probably update when they get here.

>>59350383
Go for shure se, they seem to always get good reviews

>>59354015
Thank you

>>59353953
>How does a Fulla 2 do compare to a Magni/Modi combo? Is it worth it to pay an extra $100?
No. And Fulla2 isn't even worth 40% extra over E10k. There's absolutely no need to buy Schiit.

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>>59344380
goddamn

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I desperately need IEMs. Used apple earbuds for a couple of years, doubting the IEMs sound much better. Tried some "shitty" IEM and they still managed to sound miles better then the apple earbuds.

>Budget
Less than 50$, still a bit skeptical about IEMs so I'm not willing to spend much, just to upgrade from earbuds.

>Location
Illinois, US.

>Source
Laptop/phone/iPod.

>Type of headphone
IEM

>Comfort level
Don't have to be extremely comfy, I just don't want them to fall out of my ears while walking/moving (nothing extreme i.e. running).

>Sound signature
I listen to a lot of bass-y music so I'd prefer is the IEMs did not have a shortcoming in that particular area. I don't know much about sound signature.

>Past headphones
Literally just apple earbuds + cheap old beats I got for Christmas.

Just to be clear, any decent IEMs for <50 would be an upgrade to apple earbuds, right?

And one last thing, I'd prefer these IEMs to be purchasable from Amazon.

Thank you.

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Hey /hpg/, I just bought these headphones and they sound so amazing. Are they hidden gems? They compete against headphones more expensive than it; it feels like you're resting your head against a pair of pillows and it sounds like it too.

>>59353944
Thanks a lot for the answer, I'll check out the ear tips.

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>>59348670
Lol, i admit i didn't wanted to get rid of the coke, but i always liked pepsi more.

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>>59347052
Alright

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http://debofnight.andcuriouser.com/

>Because you CAN know just enough to say something really idiotic

>>59346665
>The DT990 250 ohm take 100mW to power sufficiently
100 mW max into the headphone load. Power is dependent on Z(ω), and can refer to anything from thermal limits to excursion limit.

>>59350539
>>59350816
>opamps
How did you ever get that idea worked into your head? Packing multiple transistors into a small chip does explicitly jack up capacitance to make a low pass filter.
Some of the amplifiers are used in RF, something with thousands of times greater bandwidth than audio.

>>59351945
>In fact, if delta sigma, the samples given to the DAC are partially discarded
I see at least a couple of ways to read this.

Whatever happens to the samples is not important in the goal of analog reconstruction. Decimation, resampling, noise-shaping and more do not hinder reconstruction. These operations are not necessarily limited to delta-sigma converters either.

As far as the reconstruction is concerned, the waveform from a well made Δ-Σ converter can be made to pass through the same points it was interpolated from.

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Hey /hpg/, I also spent money on these headphones. And again, these sound great! Better than my 518s, even. It's even turning me into more of a nigger than I already am.

Can it be, the nigger bass, anons?

>>59352968
>Yfw your onboard sound is already a amp+dac so there's no need to buy external ones.

>>59354067
Dark NiggaBass

>>59354336
Yes

>>59354391
>tfw when it's clearly worse and you can't even tell.

Jesus fucking christ. What are your main headphones. Pleas enlighten me.

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Hey /hpg/, so i've bought a bit more Sennheiser headphones, and I must say, these are probably the best I have yet. The only thing that bothers me is its chink shit looking plastic. Is it going to hold up, anons?

>>59354574
What $1000 cables do you use to conduct your audiofool voodoo on?
>Hurrrrr how do you know your $10 cables aren't shit if you do that compare them to $10k cables
Simple, measurements.

>>59354658
You"re not answering his question. What headphones are you using?

>>59354619
it will outlive you.

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>>59354711
And you're correct! Too bad i've already switched to the HD 598 recently. No cracking yet, anons! Though, I am missing the nigger bass.

Beautiful, isn't it?

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>>59354867
you can always EQ some bass in if you need it. if you're under windows, use Equalizer APO.

Personally, I dislike heavy bass and prefer neutral sound.

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>>59354893
Geez, I was kidding, anon. I was also lying about only recently getting them. I bought them a couple years ago and managed to get a bad pair with cracking issues.

No pic from me, but i've since replaced them with AKG 702s.

>>59354867

I've had my pair for almost a year and love them. Still just plug them into my pc audio jack, not sure what if any dac/amp would benefit me.

>>59354987
>Bullshit and lies
the post.

better try next time.

ps: if you want to troll sub-80 IQ retards that fall for you shit, try /b/.

>>59354987
>>59355016
This happened over the course of 9 months, so I fairly OK with it. I've heard they fixed the issue, though.

>>59355028
What's wrong, anon? Are you mad?

>>59354987

How do you like the 702s compared to the 598s?

>>59355036
>mad
You seem to be autistic and tell tell people's emotions apart.

>>59352487
e10k forces you to use its dac.

It lacks line in.

>>59355055
>How do you like the 702s compared to the 598s?
Quit feeding the troll you fucking retard. And 702s sound like shit. Just look at the freq response.

>>59354132
Except if you need an amp.

e10k has no line in.

>>59355055
To be honest, it was more of a side-grade. No bass from the K702s, which personally didn't bother me, but the K702s did have nicer bass in my opinion. Both are about equal in comfort, but the HD 598 were a bit more comfortable.

>>59355082
Come on, anon. Did I get you mad? Did my issue with Sennheiser cracking get you mad?

>>59354142
Please don't ignore :(

>>59347052
what are those sonys?
are they any good?

>>59355116
>>59355055
Sorry, I meant mids, not bass.

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>>59355082
How does it sound like shit?

>>59355250
That really does look like shit

>>59355284
>>59355082

How? Can someone explain, please? I think it sounds fine.

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>>59347052
Albums are ones I've listened to and enjoyed recently. I don't have all time favorites. Things come and go.

>>59355306
>I think it sounds fine.
How many >$150 headphones have you owned? Can you list some you've used for a month?

>>59355306
>no bass
>shitty midbass hump to compensate for lack of bass
>treble spikes
>upper midrange dip

>>59355339
>>59355341
:^)

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>>59355339
>>59355341
>>59355380

;^)

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>>59355392
built like shit.

>>59355392
>K702 used to be compared to the HD600/650 and DT880
>after years of people realizing how shit they are they've been downgraded to being compared to the HD598
RIP

>>59351796
Check head-fi DIY section. Got a build log there. Haven't actually started building. Just working on magnet supports right now.

>>59355324
800's are the only headphone I'd like to try besides my 600's I'm guessing you started with the 600/650s. How much better is the 800? give me the details f.am.

>>59355431
I agree, but I still don't get why some people get mad at other people calling HD 5X8s and HD 6X0s chink shit build quality.

>>59355441
kek. Seriously the 702's are incredible when it comes to clarity and soundstage, but they have no weight or impact behind them. They're still the 4th best I've heard behind the j712, 650, and the the 600 imo.

>>59355475
>clarity and soundstage
nice buzzwords

>>59355470
it's easy to make a "tough as shit" headphones. but you know why they all suck shit? because they're heavy and uncomfortable.

>>59355339
>>59355341
>>59355392
>>59355380
>Calling HD 598s shit

:^^^)

>>59355487
Fucking hell your reply was insanely fast. Do you honestly think that the 702's don't have good clarity? Are you that one guy who claims that soundstage is a meme?

Just to let you know I upgraded from 702's to the hd600's. The 600's are much better in general but the 702's are the most clear/wide headphones I've ever tried.

>>59355517
The Fidelio X2s and X1s are built like tanks, but they're sadly aimed at the nigger bass crowd.

>>59355530
just stop posting i'm getting secondhand embarrassment from how little you know

>>59355543
Are you that Sennheiser shill that believed HD 600s compete against $1,000 after linking "proof" to Head-Fi?

>>59355519
>>>59355339(You)
why do you keep quoting me, shithead? I didn't even look at your troll graph. i didn't even give an indication that I did. I told you that 702s sound like shit. comparing them to 598s doesn't change the fact that 702s sound like shit and are shit.

>>59355519
>Sennheisers aren't shit
>:3c

>>59355556
funny you mention head-fi when you sound like any other dumbass on that site

>>59355559
You did tell me to look at its frequency graph, didn't you? After calling K702s shit compared to the HD 598s? Like I said, it was a sidegrade. Why are you so mad, anon?
>>59355569
No, I don't have the knowledge of some Head-Fiers. Sorry.

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>>59355556
>Are you that Sennheiser shill that believed HD 600s compete against $1,000 after linking "proof" to Head-Fi?
HD600 are still on Wall of Fame.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-over-ear-open

Scroll down and see how many >$1500 are not.

Stay mad, poor pajeet. And keep on believing that SHP9500 is not total fucking garbage. Still KEKing at how mad & insane you are. Go make more posts about your "trusty fucks". KEK!

>>59355593
>No, I don't have the knowledge of some Head-Fiers. Sorry.
you're right, even the clueless idiots there know more about headphones than you do

>>59355598
Yup, I guess you are that shill. Please, tell me more about your superior knowledge from Head-Fi.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared#user_JH13

>>59355593
>You did tell me to look at its frequency graph, didn't you? After calling K702s shit compared to the HD 598s? Like I said, it was a sidegrade. Why are you so mad, anon?
that's not me. and is you comprehension so shit that you can't comprehend what I wrote and why I don't like 702s? they sound like shit and fit like shit too. huge round cups? are you fucking kidding me? they're impossible to seal well.

>>59355543
>>59355556
Are you both getting confused?

Fucking retards who can't afford 600's LMAO

>>59355519
>HD598
>not HD558 + foam mod
pleb...

>>59355615
Tyll writes for Head-Fi? TOP KEK!

Go here low-IQ dumbfuck and take a look how many >$1500 cans HD600 beats.

PS: I'm guessing your IQ is lower than 80 because you actually believe that price and sound quality are correlated. Only total morons believe that.

>>59355616
> they sound like shit and fit like shit too. huge round cups? are you fucking kidding me? they're impossible to seal well.

Nigger ears confirmed :^)

>>59355624
>Implying i'd go with chink-shit tier HD 600s

What are you, a poorfag?

>>59355642
According to the link I sent, HD 600s are in-between HD 650s and a pair of earbuds.

:^)

>>59355678
you're a racist piece of shit. kys.

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>>59355456
>How much better is the 800?
Sound wise without EQ? Worse, in my opinion. How much? I don't know how to quantify this. I do own the HD 650 but I never use it anymore. The details...

HD 800's upper bass emphasis is a little tubby sounding. This often goes unmentioned in reviews and I find it a bit more objectionable than the warm bass boost of the HD 650/600. The main problem with the HD 800 is the recessed upper midrange followed by a very prominent treble peak around 6 KHz. The lack of upper midrange emphasizes treble peaks even more. Overall the response is V-shaped but in a not very enjoyable way. HD 600 has much better balance. At least the HD 800 has more low bass.

But I like the comfort more, appreciate the design(materials, pads easy to replace/wash), quality control, the consistency and linearity of the response for what that's worth. I don't fret on the coloration as it's trivial with a parametric equalizer.

>>59355724
Liberal, please leave.

>>>/lgbt/

>>59355678
>>Implying i'd go with chink-shit tier HD 600s

What the fuck are you even talking about?. What are your main headphones?

>>59355746
>/pol/ having shit taste
what a surprise...

>>59355768
Chink-tier K702s. But if I wasn't a poorfag, i'd go with HD 800s.

>>59355771
Did I hurt your feelings?

Please see >>59355746 for your safe place.

>>59355810
>admiting to be a poorfag
that explains a lot, you never tested any of these.

>>59355771
report and let mods deal with him. don't feed a racist troll. everything's about the race to this guy.

>>59355839
>Implying richfags will pick HD600s over HD800s.

>>59355736
Thanks for the reply m8. From that you must surely have some regret buying those, assuming you owned a pair of 600's previously?

I always thought that the 800's were a more bassy, clear and wider version of the 600's. Even though I don't really like the design. I heard about the treble problem, and I thought that was the only problem.

I'll stick with my 600's. They're fucking amazing.

>>59355865
>can't pick either
kek.

>>59355882
>Implying they won't buy two HD 800s.

what are some good Noise-Canceling bluetooth headphones?
Nothing fancy, just to carry them around the subway.

>>59355810
I fucking knew you were a 702 owner. Jesus christ, it's like I'm debating with the same guy from over a year ago. Why are you so desperate to hate on the 600's? You've clearly never owned them, it's fucking weird mate, just stop.

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Hello, I am looking for a pair of headphones. Previously I have owned ATH-M50, Dt990-250ohm, and I currently own the sony XBA-h1 IEM and HyperX cloud. The 990’s were good, I liked them, I just want better. I Had to sell my 990’s and amp a few years ago, but I am better off in life now.

I’m going to link a few songs on youtube that characterize what I look for in all of my music. I dig through huge trance collections from rutracker and move songs that I like to another playlist. An example being “Woman trance voices” from open gate records, a like 30 gb lossless collection. I enjoy the build up of trance somewhat(this is… bass? I guess) but I live for when the vocals open up and reach high, that kind of sound that gives you goose bumps. Yes, I know I sound like a massive twat.

For example;
https://youtu.be/DOah8QRMGC4?t=2m30s

This whole song really, it’s my favorite but I love it for Sarah’s voice and not the bass line:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oPxK-t1GME

The start of this song has the kind of build-up I enjoy from the start but once again it’s the vocals melodizing with the synths that I adore :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSxzzDE38t8

So are there any headphones better than the dt990 at delivering what I described and linked to?
Budget: ~300 and under
US
Source: Need to buy one still
Type of headphone: literally do not care, closed preferably but never at the cost of anything else
Comfort level: I don’t care
Sound signature/Past headphones: Detailed heavily above

No I absolutely will not buy the fucking X2’s I hate Philips with a burning passion

>>59355850
Kek. Was I spot on?

>>59355678

>>59355873
>From that you must surely have some regret buying those
No. I bought these knowing exactly what I will get: a great pair to EQ and the only headphone I will ever need at home. Stopped me from "upgrading" and being interested in almost every new headphone release. If anything I would regret buying any other pair of open back headphones than the HD 800s, hoping that I had the understanding I have now back when shopping for headphones the first time. But that would just be unrealistic. It's just some money.

>assuming you owned a pair of 600's previously?
Never owned the HD 600s but I've heard them multiple times and they are just a less warm version of the HD 650s.

>>59356039
Fair enough. You say that the 600 is a less warm version of the 650's (which I agree with) but how would you rate the 800's against those two in that sense?

>>59355959
HD600.

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>comic sans
Who's idea was this?

>>59356156
>Prefers bright headphones
>HD 600

>>59356154
HD 800 sounds brighter, the treble peak dominates.

>>59347351

Soichi terada and move D
shultze and pete namlook

finally someone who knows his shit

>>59356210
>not wanting the best font on your IEMs
Disgusting.

Okay, I would really want to buy the hd598 se, because they're in my price range. However, I can't get them anywhere, except if I pay ~60€ more than they're worth.
Now, I can get the 598 closed ones for 120€. Should I do it? Are they the same as the SE, except that they're closed?

How do I clean my x2 pads? I been sweating in them a bit

>>59350383
RE-400 isn't exactly bass light, unless you screw up the fit or just really want a lot of bass. It has a downward tilt and some general bass boost to it. HF5 is slightly midbassy and but far less than the other sets mentioned. Has a less general downward tilt than RE400, above 5kHz or so.

The Senn/1More/RHA/Shure sets are all bass heavy.
MA750 highs are more spiky, maybe even a bit of V-shape, Momentum's upper-midrange takes a hard plunge (the Sennheiser in-ear veil).
The 1More Triple and SE215 would best be called bassy, SE215 has more subbass, the Triple puts emphasis higher up, closer to 100 Hz or so.

As far as isolation is considered, the real outlier is the 1More, which is too heavily vented to isolate decently. The Etys should isolate best, followed by the Shures and the rest. Depending on the eartips used and the fit, the actual isolation will vary a bit.

SE215 has a serious advantage of removable cables with a popular connector, but not everyone likes the MMCX style.
RE400 build is very poor, thin wires lacking reinforcement at strain points.
MA750 build is made of steel, but the earpieces weight quite a bit much for it. Housings can still crack


>>59355959
Déjà vu. I know I've seen this request before.

I said, don't fix what isn't broke and go get the DT990.
Then, the answer I got was it sounded fine, and they wanted to try a potential upgrade. Didn't want it to sound like the XBA-H1, or the M50...
I was saying something about how there aren't upgrades to the DT990, that if you wanted a headphone with strong lows and highs, it was a very solid pick.

>>59356685
They're not the same. They use HD 569 drivers they sounds pretty narrow comoared to the 598SE and are rather dark.

>>59356750
What the fuck. Yes, that was me. I posted that a few months ago before I actually had the funds and now that I'm ready to press the order button I'm still in the same situation.
I was considering ATH-MSR7 and a pair of Ety, figure I can just return them

>>59356837
-Here's the thing: the MSR7 tends to lack treble, even if it sometimes seems "bright". Not very much on the bass boost either, or did you want something very different?
-What was the problem with the Fidelio X2?
-Which Ety? MK5, HF5 (and mic variants), or something else?

>>59356949
I went to such lengths in this repost of the request to point out what I like in songs, and yes the dt990 is good at enhancing those parts of the songs but that's the limit of my knowledge as to what I want in a headphone.
I was undecided about the Etymotic I just thought I might enjoy their house sound. I see a ER4XR for $250 on this weird ass site. Thought maybe I'd try it http://www.shopblt.com/item/etymotic-research-studio-reference-ear-monitors/etymot_er4sr.html
and, yes, I mentioned the msr7 simply because it is described as bright.

WHat about the t70p? amazon has some warehouse ones dirt cheap, reading amazon reviews it sounds like i might enjoy it

and I wont buy the x2 because I dislike how it's essentially become the next m50, I see it mentioned all over the place. Literally who is philips? They make fucking EVERYTHING it's probably just some random driver thrown in a housing with 0 attention paid to tuning and all of it paid to how the headphone looks.
Oh and it's nice to see you here. I love when I recognize posters here. Guess you do have a trip but i never pay attention to the name field

>>59357039
i fucked up that first sentence a bit, it doesnt make sense.
I meant I pointed out what I like in songs to serve as a description of what I want in a headphone.

>>59353628
Just got new pads for my lcd2.2
A pair cost 160 AUD...

>>59356816
What others would you recommend then in the ~200€ range?

>>59353628
Only pads i bought so far a Auray Sheep Skin pads for my v6, they feel like new ever since.
My DT880 is in desperate need for new pads though, but the price for importing them almost pays for an entire new headphone...

>>59357093
>A pair cost 160 AUD...
Ouch. Are there any cheaper after-market ones?

I just bought a pack of 10 HD600/HD650 velour pads from China for $90. That will last me a year or so. I've bought these knockoff pads in the past and they're an exact copy of original ones. Chinks are getting pretty good at this.

>>59352372
nice ty

>>59357099
AKG K612 or DT880's. If you can stretch that budget a tad, Fidelio X2's or K712.

>>59357039
>I wont buy the x2 because I dislike how it's essentially become the next m50
>I see it mentioned all over the place.
That's a bad reason to dismiss something from a purchase consideration. Sounds like the hipster 'muh exclusivity' bullshit. Not saying the X2s are what you're looking for or not, but would you really not purchase something that precisely fits your wants/needs just because it's popular? Seems rather masochistic.

The M50s got popular as a more affordable and better performing alternative to Beats (though I'm not a fan of the sound signature of either headphone).

The HD600 have been mentioned all over the place as well... for about 20 years now. This doesn't mean that you should always avoid purchasing a pair. A lot of people use the HD600 as a reference in terms of comparing with other headphones.

>it's probably just some random driver thrown in a housing with 0 attention paid to tuning and all of it paid to how the headphone looks.

The X2 was tuned with the Harman target response curve in mind, and does quite well at getting close to it, imo.

>>59357834
I'm not pretending to have a good reason. The HD600 is a sennheiser product, sennheiser is just an audio company.
My tooth brush is a philips toothbrush
My beard trimmer is a philips
My wife's breast pump is philips

i dont want my headphones to be philips.

>>59357130
>My DT880 is in desperate need for new pads though, but the price for importing them almost pays for an entire new headphone...
that's why I only buy popular phones with lots of aftermarket parts. when you buy lesser brands, you're fucked every time you try to repair them.

>>59358163
>Implying any big brand offers parts in my country
Joke's on you, the headphone of your favorite brand that i probably don't have wouldn't see new pads either, Ha!

>>59358259
>in my country
your shithole of a country can't import shit from china? kek. laughing at you pajeet.

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Why is this cable $530?

>>59358515
For people with more money than brains.

Just bought the KZ ZS3's, have I done well?

>>59347487
One of these days I might remember to actually prepare a better suggestion on how to conduct your research.

>>59357039
>Literally who is philips?
A has-been of sorts, much like Sony.
Jointly developed and released the CD decades back with Sony, S/PDIF connectors with Sony, and the SACD with Sony. One of the pioneers when it came to developing and advancing low cost, high performance DAC architectures, making digital audio that much cheaper for everyone.
They are more of a bit player in audio these days.
>ER-4
You said the 4XR, the link shows the 4SR.
>vocals/synths
A healthy level around 1-4KHz is the main energy, the upper midrange "vocal presence" region. MSR7 can be slightly recessed around here up until around 9-10 kHz, where it has a peak - a local maximum. A lot of headphones have spikes around 9-10kHz.
DT990 is not very recessed in the upper mid, at least compared to most Beyerdynamic headphones. If you don't mind big 10kHz treble peaks, you may as well consider the Beyer T90, but it might be even spikier than the DT990.

>T70p
I had this headphone for a bit. I don't suggest it. Let me tell you a little something.
When you equalize a headphone, all you are doing is multiplying the signal by some factor.
Unfortunately, the T70 happens to multiply some spot in the treble by zero. Multiplying zero by finite numbers tends to churn out more zeros. It shares this trait with the Audeze EL-8, and both over-ear Sennheiser Momentums.
The dips and sharp peaks tend to make it sound screwy in the treble region.
Even if the earpads are made out of microfiber, the wrinkled pads don't fit too well, so it can seem even more bass light for it.


>>59357834
>X2 was tuned with the Harman target response curve
No. At least, it doesn't show.
There are better "Harman" headphones to choose from, Aeon, HP50, Focal Spirit Pro...Things like the M50x and HD650 would not be worse at fitting AES 9382 than X2.

Would it be better if I got a blue snowball ice and an M50x than a 200 gaming head set?

>>59343147
What's a good closed-back alternative to the HD650s? 300€ tops

>>59358501
>Importing shit from china
pleb.

>>59358719
ATH-MSR7

>>59358803
I see a lot of people calling them bright. I bought the 650s cuz I can't stand bright headphones.

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>>59358871
>a lot of people calling them bright
ppl are retards. they're less bright than HD650

Even if they are less bright, aren't they pretty coloured?

>>59358654
Yeah. Best fitting chi-fi IEM under $30. Best sounding under $25 as well.

>>59358666
Hey thanks for responding, I wasn't at the computer sorry.
>Philips
That makes me feel a bit better about them, I just wish I knew a bit more. Id like to read some interviews with the people that actually design headphones.
>ety
Yeah, wrong link sorry. The same site has the XR for the same price. It looks really sketchy though doesn't it? How could they claim to order direct from Ety yet have it so cheap? It's $100 less there than even Amazon. Never going to buy at MSRP.
>t70p
I don't EQ but I want a hardware one on my desk because I would be likely to use it than a software one, plus maybe it'll put out better sound so I would like to keep the option open.

>>59355475
>but they have no weight or impact behind them
S E A L
E
A
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With a proper seal it has more bass than HD600 and DT880 but the treble past 1kHz is retarded and I hate the sound of these headphones.

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Why is the #1 complaint about IEM's that they fall out? What ever happened to a sport-style headband?

>>59359455
> Open backs
> Seal

>>59359516
>implying I'm not talking about the pads alone

>>>/head-fi/

>>59359534
> Open fucking back headphones
> Seal
You seem to be the one that hails from head-fi
Does the soundstage improve when you get a proper "seal" with the K702? do they become more musical with natural crispy highs and low punchy lows? would you describe the overall crispiness improves?

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>>59359555

>>59359591
I fail to see how this is due to SEAL
Do you speak English?

>>59359636
Not anon, but:

>averaged left and right ear measurements

A proper "seal" matters. Where they are put on, matters, fellow head-fier.

>>59359636
Seal affects bass leakage, seal refers to the earpads alone, we're done here.

So i've been hearing Head-Fi hate from here for a couple threads now; is there a reason for this?

>>59359636
Yeah, you just got told.

>>59359636
Kek.

Now off you go.

>>>/head-fi

>>59359264
Glad I was not led astray.
I considered the ED9 since I've never messed with over ear iem's, but gee told me the ZS3's sounded better.

>>59343147
anything better than an MDR 1000x for a mobile headphones

Would be willing to get wired but the only thing that looks decent are say m40x

MDR 1000x can be had for $300

Hey anons, are there any reasons to buy closed headphones over open headphones, other than noise isolation?

>>59360492
Sub-bass. Other than planars, there are like no fully open cans that do sub-bass as well as closed.

>>59360492
Bass response.

>>59359422
Philips sold/licensed off their headphone and all the other A/V divisions to Gibson a couple years ago. These days, Philips branded headphones would have less to do with Philips than the toothbrushes.

There's an interview here, from before the division was sent to Gibson.
Tyll's grammar and spelling is always a little off. Not the smallest hindrance for an editor to have.
>http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/visit-philips-research-labs-page-3
Starts from the bog standard lumped element model of engineering, goes over more modern and useful simulation techniques (Finite/Boundary elements). We see some measurement/experimentation gear, a dummy head, a selection of model ears, and a Klippel laser vibrometer - the vibrometer looks for cone breakup, non-uniform motion that would indicate diaphragm resonances and possible distortions.

I'd say it's standard, but serious, acoustics engineering work, depressingly rare in audio.
It almost seems more modest than what I expected from the resources of a multi-national corporation. It may have came across that way because of the writer, or maybe Philips didn't want to show off too much.
As a headphone, the X2 could use a little more work.

>4SR/4XR
It's difficult to be too cautious. It doesn't seem to be in stock.
I have seen the 4SR go on sales around 280-300, so it doesn't seem implausible for me.

New thread:
>>59360811

>>59360603
Nothing is in stock on the website, they state that most everything is ordered on demand. Most non-amazon stores work like this. When you buy an SSD from Dell it's western digital that is shipping it to you.
I don't know. Anyway, back to my original post.
You were able to tell me the frequency range that I like and it's relation to the sound of the dt990, which is great, thanks. What headphones do you think emphasize that sound the most? You kind of went on a bit of a tangent saying that the energy is in 1-4khz and then talked about the common 9-10khz peak.

I understand there is a TON of other things beside the frequency response though. Surely there must be a few headphones that excel at delivering that range.

Have any other DT770 owners had problems with the cable? I've ran through two of the cheap fucking things last year alone.

>>59357188
I have bought knock-off pads in the past and they have let me down. I don't even know if there are any for the LCD2... i searched on ebay and there wasn't (whereas normally there are tonnes for other headphones)

>>59361357
Just do a removable cable mod. One of the easiest mods and means you dont have to do anything other than buy a new cable if you somehow manage to destroy one.