/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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first for Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>59284833
second for not source mage

Why is apt absolute shit? Something as simple as removing the DM results in 30+ packages marked for autoremove including the xinit, xorg, cups, python, and other packages that shouldn't even be removed. I will never again use apt based distros again like Debian or Ubuntu because no other package manager is this retarded.

>>59284866
What the fuck is a DM? Also, you're either too stupid to use apt properly or are lying. Please provide screenshot of apt marking xinit and xorg for autoremove.

>>59284866

You're an idiot first of all.
Apt, a package manager, isn't the culprit for such behaviour. It's the package itself, as in the person designating dependencies.
Secondly, I seriously doubt that removing a dispalay manager package would remove X11. Maybe if you installed the display manager first and X11 got pulled in as a dependency. Even then it's very unlikely.

>>59284810
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
Is this still up to date?
I think I've seen the "pick your poison" image in a bunch of different versions posted every now and then.

>>59269582
2 is fixed. Still need help with 1 and 3

>>59284899
Display Manager, a fancy GUI for logging in. I hated the one it came with so I decide to remove it so I can login via terminal.

>>59284866
>using meta packages

>>59284810
How do I Linux?

>>59284946

1. Edit the preferences of Xfce's panel. It should have options where to draw it. Alternatively just drag it in "edit" mode to the other display.

3. There's an option in the settings to assign keyboard shortcuts. Use that. I think it's under "window manager" options.

>>59284961
start by reading the OP pasta

Guys I recently installed Gentoo on my Asus laptop and I can't get the touchpad to work. I tried both synaptics and libinput. what do?

>>59284899
>>59284941
I'm not lying, Debian does this to me every single time.

>>59284991
>reading the OP pasta
>links to documents

Why can't I just do it like Windows. I never read that much for using that. Linux is fiddicult

>>59284950
That's not apts fault that's dependency hell for installing pre-assembled Linux

>>59285024
pick a distro, install it in a VM or dual boot
simple enough for you?

>>59284961
RTFM
Faggot...

>>59285064
I did a netinst with minimal packages.

What is a good livestreamer alternative?

>>59284981
Thank you for your help

>>59284961
by being grumpy and complaining about everything.
Look to have a fight about any single non-issue too.
And rant when something isn't okay.


And your question doesn't make sense btw

>>59285115
Streamlink. Although I just use plain youtube-dl + mpv

Any wine users here ? Do you have any tips to share ?

I wanted to play heroes of the storm with a few friends without needing to reboot on windows. I manage to get ~30 - 40 fps but the drop rates are annoying as fuck.


in winecfg I setted :
>compatibility to windows 7
>in library I disabled D3D11 (it fixed the battle.net crash I had when opening the settings)
>In display I enabled "capture mouse in full screen windows" and "allow WM to control windows"

Anything I should look at ?

>>59285152
>your question doesn't make sense
To you. Cuz ur retarded.

>>59284810
So is the fundamental difference between the distros the package managers?

Still trying to figure out this out linux thing before actually trying to install it.

So do I just pick the distro with my preferred package manager and assume that I can choose everything else at install time?
Like, do I have the option of installing my preferred DE's, etc. or are most of those things set as I choose the distro?

I realize I might be overthinking it, but I would prefer to have most of my preferences set up at install time even if it takes longer, rather than trying to figure out how to uninstall, and reinstall all this shit later on.

>>59285317
distros differ in several ways, including (but not limited to);
- package manager
- premade packages available officially
- whether those packages are pre-compiled, source code only, or a mix of both
- philosophy
- intended target machines/users/purposes
- installer or lack thereof
- which set of software/packages ship with it standard
- which program features are enabled/disabled

>>59285317
You're not overthinking at all, you figured out what most people only get after years of linuxing: that the main difference between distros is the package manager. Other important differences are repository policy (ex: fedora only allows FOSS stuff, Canonical allows some proprietary stuff), stability (ex: ubuntu keeps having bug pop-ups, fedora works fine) and release schedule (ex: arch is rolling release (no version), fedora has a fast versioning, Debian has a slow versioning).

>>59285428
also repository management

>>59285317
>So is the fundamental difference between the distros the package managers?
For the most part.
>So do I just pick the distro with my preferred package manager and assume that I can choose everything else at install time?
At install time? Depends on distro, but you can always change it afterwards. Some distros have you choose when you download their iso.
>Like, do I have the option of installing my preferred DE's, etc. or are most of those things set as I choose the distro?
see above
>I realize I might be overthinking it, but I would prefer to have most of my preferences set up at install time even if it takes longer, rather than trying to figure out how to uninstall, and reinstall all this shit later on.
Each distro is geared for their task, some for servers, others for embedded, so it's not overthinking it.

>>59285227
Good performance is only on wine-staging with CSMT enabled

>>59285626

>Each distro is geared for their task, some for servers, others for embedded
Bull shit.
Your Linux kernel and other software does not care if it runs on a "server", a "daily driver" or "embedded" computer. You use the same software on all of those.

>>59285428
>>59285455
>>59285626
Thanks /fglt/

Will read more about stuff before installing, but these help a lot.

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>>59284944
>Is this still up to date?
Yes. Absolutely. I haven't seen any interesting new distro in last 5 years, except solus (isn't recommended for newbies btw).

>>59285857
You completely missed the point. A distro that comes packaged with a LAMP stack is better for a server than your laptop, sure you can do without much issue, but it's not intended for it. Clear Linux is a distro intended for Intel cpus and doesn't have radeon graphics shipped with it, you can always manually add it in, but it's easier to just use another distro.

>>59285903
you'll proably overwhelm yourself if you do too much research relative to practical usage

just start with something popular and common for your target usage (for example, ubuntu for a general purpose desktop installation)
then look further into things as they happen

remember: don't assume anything! especially if you've primarily only used one OS before, it's important not to assume you know anything about linux to begin with, not being like windows is not always a negative

>>59285985

>A distro that comes packaged with a LAMP stack is better for a server than your laptop
So you want a distribution out there for the millions of possibilities of installed packages? You must be one of those idiots to whom all those "added new wallpaper to Ubuntu" distributions cater to.
I don't know much about Clear Linux, but it seems to be a niche distribution, not intended for actual use, but to showcase things. There is only a handful of distributions worth using. Using anything other than those is beyond stupid.

>>59285985
You can run Centos on a laptop and never touch anything server related and you would still have the same stable environment if you went with another distro

>>59286016
>it's important not to assume you know anything about linux to begin with
to give an example; a lot of people (including my clueless 14 year old self) first try installing software by searching for things in a web browser and downloading package archives only to find no installers
this is a result of assuming it would be just like windows, or mac os. old habits die hard

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>>59285985
“LAMP” stands for “Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP”—a common combination of software to use on a web server, except that “Linux” in this context really refers to the GNU/Linux system. So instead of “LAMP” it should be “GLAMP”: “GNU, Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP.”

>>59285985
>it easier to replace your entire system than to install 3 or 1 package(s)

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I've been having some weird issue with this lib32-mesa thing, occasionally an error would pop up about it not being found, but now I can't even Syu without it coming up and breaking the update.

Anyone see something like this before?

>>59286264
>I can't even Syu without
>breaking
That's normal.

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A new era is upon us.

>>59286264
disable testing and try again

testing repo on arch is a minefield

when im on facebook firefox crashes all the time, what do i do?
suggest me better botnet
>no chomo pls

>>59286181
No,you can use Linux without ever touching gnushit userland.So it stands LAMP

>>59286338
do a memtest

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>>59286181
Actually, since systemd has almost replaced GNU by now, instead of "GLAMP" it should be "SLAMP": Systemd, Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP. We could still have "GNU" around for legacy reasons until the next release, so let's call it SLAMPG where GNU is the last and least important.

>>59286357
You both need to grow up.

>>59286366
>memtest
not crashing like program turn off, i get that shit "stop script"
firefox sux dick, it cant load all comments when i open some page with 100 200 comments

>>59286337
Done, but it's still fucked, same error

>>59286417
>stop script
the script is either fucking up or your machine is too slow for those script-heavy sites

>>59286443
Not him, but when did we reach a point where your average website requires more resources to run than Crysis?

>>59286357
Yup, that's then an Android or Busybox system, but servers usually run the GNU system.

>>59286479
busybox isn't even a system
gnu isn't just the coreutils

>>59286459
this is the world we live in

seriously, grab yourself a specced up 2007 machine (yes, crysis is already a decade old), and tell me how nicely popular shit-tastic sites run on it

>>59286479
What is qlibc
What is malloc

Atleast attempt to know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>59286459
Yes.

>>59286459
Shit's really bizarre. How did it happen?

I just installed Ubuntu 16.04.2 on TP430s.
I want to optimise battery time for uni and so far, I installed and enabled Powertop and TLP.
TLP wanted me to install acpi_call and I did.
However, it still want me to install tp_smapi and tpacpi-bat.

Now I'm under the impretion that those aren't even supported bu IvyBridge TP's. Can I still do something about it or is TLP just trooling me ?

Also, I installed Powertop and TLP but didn't configure anything yet. What should I do ? I don't mind restricting cpu power, it's plenty powerfull as it is.

>>59286589
When people decided to import libraries of shit when they only need one specific function that they could probably make anyway.

>>59286443
other browsers are working fine, only firefox, and only on facebook

>>59286264

>archlinuxfr
You're an idiot. Enjoy reaping the errors of blindly just copy/pasting things.

>>59286297

And you kill yourself.

>>59286599

YOu don't need Powertop and TLP. It might even conflict (one of them changing settings the other changes). Ditch Powertop and only use TLP.

The ARch Linux Wiki has an explanation which of those modules work for certain hardware.

>>59286641
additionally
>increased amounts of tracking scripts by ad companies
>really large images that are sized down on the fly
>embedded videos
>tons of javascript to animate some shit or load content which should be just static HTML
mix all of these and then wonder why even a 2500k isn't enough to run your shitshow of a site.
what is the web developers' solution to this bloat epidemic? protip: it's not less bloat, it's webassembly so they can add MORE bloat.

>>59286785
why are embedded videos bad?

>>59286810
they are when you add 10 of them on the same page for no real reason.

>>59286785
facebook, youtube, 2tabs 4chin and 2 google tabs
>chromium 700 mb

>>59286757

It's on linrunner.de/tlp page, not on arch wiki.
I removed powertop.

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>walk in the room
>see my ukrainian sister with autism laying on the floor with her laptop
>walk over to see if she wanted some help
>she's compiling java and using ubuntu
>what the fuck
>thought she was a tard this whole time
>she starts stuttering and trying to tell me she wants to be like those cyberpunk girls in the cartoons
>spergs out and starts shaking/almost crying
>"calm down sis, i think its rly cool"
>looks up at me with her stupid mongoloid face
>she smiles and slowly points towards something on the wall
>mfw it's an Arch poster taped to a piece wood
>mfw i felt my dick get so damn hard
>feel ashamed
>hard as a diamond


Is it ethical to fuck hacker chics?

>>59287057
>>59286757
>>59286599

Is there anything I can do for tp-smapi and tpacpi-bat ?
Is there any config to change/optimise in TLP ?

>>59285788
gonna try that. thx for the tip, I didn't knew

>>59287124
Only one thing in the world worse than cosplayer chicks and that's hacker chicks. Do never fuck. EVER.

>>59287136

I use tp_smapi modules to adjust the battery thresholds and increase battery life.

>>59287260
This.

Dont give them your wifi passwrod

I'm trying to use a Gentoo livecd on a thinkpad p70, and the thing won't ever boot up in UEFI mode even though the motherboard supports it. Whenever I try to partition the disks (in legacy mode which I think is BIOS) and add the "boot" flag, it automatically adds the "ESP" flag, even though I'm not in UEFI mode. If I ignore it and go on, and then install grub, the thing still won't boot up in legacy (which I think is BIOS) mode. I have safeboot or secureboot or whatever it's called off.

What exactly am I doing wrong?

>>59287569

ok. my battery is at 82% capacity. Iguess it's normal for an old battery ... (t430s)
Might go for a brand new slice

>>59284833
This kid is scripting, I'm sure of it. There's no other way he always comes first with his forced Source Meme OS.

One character at a time, read stdin and print it to stdout exactly as it is:

zsh

while read -rk ch; do
    printf '%s' "$ch"
done

bash

while IFS= read -d '' -rn1 ch; do
    printf '%s' "$ch"
done

>bash

>>59287124
>mongoloid

This is honestly the most disgusting and demeaning story I've ever read. You literally fantasize over abusing a vulnerable woman because she was capable of learning a male dominated skill? My career is not your fetish creep. Get some help.

Something I should know about opensuse before installing it?

>>59286181
I like you.

>>59287922
I actually hate zsh because I don't know it; I tried installing it once, but I didn't like that most my bash scripts don't work anymore.

>>59287922
>using a shell with builtin tetris

>>59288002
>builtin tetris
https://github.com/johan/zsh/blob/master/Functions/Misc/tetris
Holy shit, this is true

>>59287922
Are you stupid?

printf foo | while read -n1 ch; do printf '%s' "$ch"; sleep 1; done

>>59288068

printf $'hello \t\nworld' | while read -n1 ch; do printf '%s' "$ch"; done

Are you?

>>59288090
>\t\n
Are you?
Why the fuck would you put a tab before a newline, f©m?

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Can someone help me understand how dependency conflicts arise?

I'm trying to understand the technical details but the majority of explanations online seem to just be generic:
>You can't install multiple versions of packages at the same time
but why?

Here is my current understanding, please correct me if I am wrong:
Dependency conflicts arise due to the fact that applications link to "major" versions of libraries rather than exact versions, but at the same time might depend on exact versions.
e.g. two applications might link to "lib.so.2", which is a symlink to some exact version, but one of the packages actually depends on the exact version "lib.so.2.0" and the other depends on "lib.so.2.1", and the symlink can't link to both at the same time so there is a conflict

Is that it?
Surely such a silly thing as conflict over a symlink can't be solely responsible for the monumental waste of time and energy each distros maintainers need to put in to reinvent the wheel maintaining tons of separate repositories and package formats just because they all have different ideas about how to resolve those symlink discrepancies?
Please tell me there's a more complex reason for this than just symlinks

>>59288090
How about you read the manual first before being stupid, zsh babby?

-r                do not allow backslashes to escape any characters

>>59288117
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dependency_hell

>>59288115
To demonstrate that you need IFS= and -d '' if you want a character-by-character read while loop in bash to read input perfectly.
>>59288125
The same shit with -r famdog.

>>59288135
I didn't even finish re-reading my own post by the time you gave that reply so I know you didn't read it

I've seen that link before and it doesn't answer my question.
All that page does is explain the different patterns of conflicts based on that fact that "these two things can't be installed together" but it still doesn't explain WHY "these two things can't be installed together".

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I'm considering installing Antergos; does it use the same repositories as Arch or does it have its own stupid repos like Manjaro?

>>59288172
Yeah, I admit, I didn't. I don't have time to read all your post. This is not your personal blog.

>>59288201
>This is not your personal blog.
If you don't know how to answer a question then just don't fucking respond

You don't have to throw out bullshit memes that don't make any sense. You're not impressing anyone

>>59288186
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>59288125
Do you even know what $'...' expansion does? printf $'stuff\tstuff' produces zero backslashes lmao.

>>59287599
Or give it to them and then change it after they let you fuck them.

>>59288215
‘no.’

>>59288186
just install arch, antergos installer is shit

>>59287922
If you have a question, ask it, but don't be a fucking faggot.
>%s BTFO
>LOL %s on suicide watch
kys

>>59288271
They have a nicer-looking website.

>>59288284
It's not friendly gnu/linux questions thread bruv. Simply pointing out that zsh is the superior interactive shell. No need to be so insecure holy shit.

>>59288311
he just told you to read the manual, stop pretending

From Install Gentoo's Babby's first [GNU/]Linux wiki:
>The perk of using Antergos is, of course, the instant access to AUR, though yaourt at this point is kind of a meme to say the least. You'll find out why soon, if you dig into ArchWiki enough.
What did they mean by this? Why is Yaourt a meme?

>>59288311
I don't get the point anon, bash and ush work different - wow?

>>59288347
Yes, that was the point.

>>59284944
>>59285966
No it's not. That pick your poison picture mensions many discontinued distros, like BackTrack Linux and Joli OS.

How can I list available GTK+3 icon themes without using a gui tool like LXAppearance or GNOME Tweak Tool?

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Why is setting up proper graphics in kvm+qemu such a fucking pain in the ass?

The options for emulating the VGA card are

-vga [std|cirrus|vmware|qxl|xenfb|tcx|cg3|virtio|none]

all of which either don't work with Windows or are shit, besides qxl which can give me pretty good performance ONLY if used in conjunction with SPICE (otherwise it's shit, even with the driver).
And what I mean by shit is not being able to fucking move or resize a simple window without it lagging, tearing and leaving trails all over the place.
I don't want to play shitty games, I just want to make the OS usable.

Now I'm trying to connect to my Windows 7 VM via SPICE protocol to somewhat increase performance.
I've installed the qxl driver and the Windows Guest Tools from https://www.spice-space.org/download.html
and took the parts from this script https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/QEMU/Windows_guest#Initialization_script
and plugged them into my own:

#!/bin/sh

SPICE_PORT=5902

qemu-system-x86_64 \
    -enable-kvm \
    -cpu host,hv_relaxed,hv_spinlocks=0x1fff,hv_vapic,hv_time \
    -smp 8,cores=4,threads=2,sockets=1 \
    -m 4G \
    -vga qxl \
    -soundhw ac97 \
    -usbdevice tablet \
    -net nic -net user,hostname=windowsvm \
    -sdl \
    -drive file=$HOME/qemu/win7.img,index=0,media=disk,format=raw,cache=none,if=virtio \
    -spice port=${SPICE_PORT},addr=127.0.0.1,disable-ticketing \
    -device virtio-serial \
    -chardev spicevmc,id=vdagent,name=vdagent \
    -device virtserialport,chardev=vdagent,name=com.redhat.spice.0 \
    -daemonize

#exec spicy --title win7 -h 127.0.0.1 -p ${SPICE_PORT}

and for some reason I can't connect (pic related).

I tried following the arch wiki also (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU#SPICE)
but it wasn't very helpful.

There's really little documetntation and forum threads on this topic in general.

I'm guessing the problem lies with the Windows guest, although I should have installed everything I needed for this.

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does anyone have RARE cowfiles to share?

>>59288514
ls /usr/share/icons/

>>59288561
https://github.com/archhurd/packages/blob/master/extra/cowsay/rms.cow

>>59288581
Thanks, how do I change the current icon theme? I have a settings.ini file in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/, but it doesn't work if I do
gtk-icon-theme = some_installed_icon_theme

I made sure to put the same name as in the index.theme file.

>>59288657
THANK YOU!!!

>>59288673
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme <your theme>
to check the current theme
gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme

>>59284810

Is there a gnome extension to increase the size of the top menu bar for high dpi?

>>59288758
Thank you, friend.

>>59288760
Have you try to declare a wrong dpi to X?

>>59288657
Just made this.

##
## A Virtual Richard Matthew Stallman
##     from mail~AT~philipnewborough~DOT~co~DOT~uk
##
## Improved with eyes by Anonymous.
##

$eye = chop($eyes);
$the_cow = <<EOC;
            $thoughts        @@@@@@ @
             $thoughts     @@@@     @@
              $thoughts   @@@@ =   =  @@
               $thoughts @@@ @ _   _   @@
                 @@@ @($eye)|($eye)  @@
                @@@@   ~ | ~   @@
                @@@ @  (o1o)    @@
               @@@    #######    @
               @@@   ##{+++}##   @@
              @@@@@ ## ##### ## @@@@
              @@@@@#############@@@@
             @@@@@@@###########@@@@@@
            @@@@@@@#############@@@@@
            @@@@@@@### ## ### ###@@@@
             @ @  @              @  @
               @                    @
EOC

>>59286264
Remove testing and archlinuxfr

>>59284810
>that pic
m'distro

hello guys
I'm a windows user since I started using computers
I have this kind of slow computer that is very old and I wish I could install linux on it,but I have some questions first.
>how do I install linux in my single drive machine?(you don't really need to answer cause I know how to google search)
>can I run .exe's in linux?there are some games I like that I hope they could run on linux too
>what is the best linux build for a new user?
>can I do cool progamming things?(I'm new to programming too and I began learning javascript and HTML on codeacaemy two days ago)

how do I install this shit mayne?

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>>59289083

>>59289083

 __________________ 
< No you didn’t. >
 ------------------ 
            \        @@@@@@ @
             \     @@@@     @@
              \   @@@@ =   =  @@ 
               \ @@@ @ _   _   @@ 
                 @@@ @(0)|(0)  @@ 
                @@@@   ~ | ~   @@
                @@@ @  (o1o)    @@
               @@@    #######    @
               @@@   ##{+++}##   @@
              @@@@@ ## ##### ## @@@@
              @@@@@#############@@@@
             @@@@@@@###########@@@@@@
            @@@@@@@#############@@@@@
            @@@@@@@### ## ### ###@@@@
             @ @  @              @  @
               @                    @

>>59289346
Use it like this: fortune | cowsay -f rms -e 'xx'

what does this mean?

>>59289524
sets a variable "curdir" to whatever is output by running "pwd"
sets variable "markfile" to some pre-set string

looks at variable "plat"
if it's "aix64", sets variables "invlist" and "eralist" to some values
otherwise (if $plat is not "aix64", sets $invlist and $eralist) to some other values

checks if uncompress exists (as in, if it's an executable in PATH)
sets $UNC to "uncompress" if it does
sets $UNC to "gunzip" if it doesn't

>>59287619
Please?

>>59289578
ok but how do i run that shit?

>>59289083
good job.
https://github.com/archhurd/packages/blob/master/extra/cowsay/rms.cow
>august 6, 2010

cowsay -e '@@' so hard

>>59289644
?

>>59289610
use google or ddg for an intro on terminal usage

or just

cd directoryname/
chmod u+x installscript
./installscript

>>59289610
Either sh {file}
Or chmod u+x {file} && ./{file}
Or better yet, see its documentation, where did you get it?

>>59289692
>botnet advices

>>59289644
The vanilla rms.cow doesn't support -e, retard. Also I never claimed that I made the ASCii. Dod you even read who I was replying to?

Help please, I am building megasync from AUR and get:
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL

>>59289083
This only works if the eyes are the same
for example, this doesn't work as expected:

cowsay -f rms -e xy Shame\!
 ________ 
< Shame! >
 -------- 
            \        @@@@@@ @
             \     @@@@     @@
              \   @@@@ =   =  @@
               \ @@@ @ _   _   @@
                 @@@ @(y)|(y)  @@
                @@@@   ~ | ~   @@
                @@@ @  (o1o)    @@
               @@@    #######    @
               @@@   ##{+++}##   @@
              @@@@@ ## ##### ## @@@@
              @@@@@#############@@@@
             @@@@@@@###########@@@@@@
            @@@@@@@#############@@@@@
            @@@@@@@### ## ### ###@@@@
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Fix it, anon!

>>59289704
Bought it but I cannot into linux

>>59289763
Do you have theese installed?

Dependencies (12)

    c-ares
    crypto++ (crypto++-git)
    curl (curl-git, curl-http2, curl-http2-git)
    hicolor-icon-theme
    libsodium (libsodium-git)
    libuv
    qt5-base (qt5-base-dev-git, qt5-base-git)
    doxygen (doxygen-git) (make)
    git (git-git) (make)
    qt5-tools (qt5-tools-git) (make)
    swig (swig-git) (make)
    sni-qt (sni-qt-eplus-bzr, sni-qt-patched-git) (optional) – fix systray issue on KDE and LXQt

>>59289786
Not with that attitude.

>>59289805
Was only missing this optional sni-qt package. Still the same error...

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>pic related

I'm using a live disk ofc and trying to install said distro. Using gparted it gives me the error that the lux partition is in use when I try to delete it. Do I need to run Gparted as sudo to delete the partitions? Need help.

installing ubuntu right now niggas

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>>59289950

>>59289930
OK, anon, I found what's missing:
it's libgl, you can fix this by installing

mesa-libgl

>>59289950
Yes you need sudo to delete partitions, but double-check that that the partition you're trying to delete is the one you think it is.

God damn setting up KVM to swap an nvidia GPU between host and guest is a pain. I want to be able to use my dGPU on both operating systems.

Don't know if it is even possible currently, heard some people mention it could be pulled off by restarting xserver and rebinding but I couldn't get it working that way.

I hope that GPUs become more flexible in the near future allowing a user to share resources efficiently between guest VMs and the host without blacklisting and vfio bind/unbind fuckery.

For now I have given up on the prospect and decided on two VMs that get assigned the dGPU while the host runs in a corner on a separate monitor.

Still better than resorting to dual booting since I can share resources between VMs, not sure how I would go about backing up my data probably through rsync to a shared folder with samba since I couldn't get snapshots working with a GPU passed through.

>>59289976
>n-words
pls don't use that kind of offensive language in here

>>59289993
Does that package in any way mess with nvidia-340xx or am I safe?

>>59290042
niggas is no' fenssive yo bitch ass nigga
cracka boi so sensitive cant even hold da nigga with da ubunt

>>59289930
>>59289993
>>59290044
If you have an nvidia GPU, install nvidia-libgl instead.

>>59290062
>taking the bait
kek

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Get on my level.
>Cowsay substitutions.

>>59290080
># What the heck.
Isn't the shell supposed to ignore lines starting with a #?

>>59290164
ignoring from executing

>don't want systemd by default
>don't want to compile from source
>want a package manager with a good selection
Is Devuan my best option?

>>59290284
>don't want systemd by default
why?

>>59290298
The crushing pressure of a thousand memes.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>59286034
>There is only a handful of distributions worth using.
>Using anything other than those is beyond stupid.

Debian, Ubuntu LTS, Arch, Fedora and CentOS?

>>59290396
>Arch
top kek

>>59286064
CentOS has quite ancient kernel though, which is a bad mix with at least new laptops..

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>>59289993
>>59290063
I already had nvidia-340xx-utils (pacman aliases nvidia-340xx-libgl to this package for me) and it doesn't work for compiling megasync.
Pacman says mesa-libgl doesn't conflict with nvidia-340xx-utils, so I tried making megasync like this, with two libgl's. It worked. Thanks

>>59290380
fortune | cowsay -n | cowsay -n | cowsay -n | cowsay -n | cowsay -n | cowsay -n | cowsay -n

>>59290411
AUR is pretty cool..

>>59290479
AUR is git clone for the poor.

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>59290476
We need to go deeper.

>>59290479
.... if you're a kiddie that never made a debian package in their life

Please HELP ME /g/urus. How do I fix audio on Windows 10 with passed through GPU. I searched net, I searched and asked reddit but to no awail.
Help me /g/, you're my only hope.

>>59290298
Can you just ignore my autism and answer the question?

>>59290616
Install gentoo

>>59290380
You always post this exact same shit.
Anyway, here you go:

mv ~/.bashrc{,_tmp} && echo 'sleep 5;' | cat - ~/.bashrc_tmp > ~/.bashrc && rm ~/.bashrc_tmp

This command gave me a lot of seconds to think about my life and where all went wrong.
Enjoy.

>>59290649
I did. It did not fix the issue

>>59290616
I'm sorry friend, but we only discuss GNU/Linux here. Try another thread.

>>59290709
>I did it
Lies. Gentoo takes longer than that to install.
>it did not fix the issue
Installing Gentoo fixes any computer issue known to mankind, that's why it's recommended often here on /g/.

>>59290716
But this is a GNU/Linux issue

>>59290616
solus doesn't have this problem

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Today I stopped typing find . when I found out . is the default.

>>59290823
No, it's obviously a Windows issue.
Go seek help from Microsoft.

>>59290538
debian

>>59290380
nsnake
cowsay

>>59290843
You learn something everyday.

Why did cat replace more? more is so much more comfy and also makes more sense: if something is larger than the screen, it's paged, if not, it's not paged. Spares a lot of scrolling time after a while.

>>59290847
This is an issue with virtualization software on linux

>>59290963
because noobs think the purpose of cat is printing file contents
>cat file | grep uuoc

welp, I prefer less over more

>>59291069
less is more more than more

helo

How can I tell if I'm using modesetting over Intel's GPU driver for X11? I uninstalled the xserver-xorg-gfx-intel package, or whatever it was called, and so far none of the bugs I encountered with it have presented themselves, but is there anyway to know for sure that I'm not using it anymore?

So what are your fag's excuses not to come to windows now that Year Zero proved everything is compromised?

>>59291230
I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 if that matters at all

>>59291069
yeah, it triggers me to see people use

cat file | grep uuoc

instead of

grep uuoc file

or even

grep uuoc < file

. Here's a better use of cat: >>59290692

>welp, I prefer less over more

$ basename $(realpath $(which more))
more

Really not what I expected. I expected more to be symlinked to less. But I prefer less though, because more doesn't support vi-keys.

>>59291230
grep 'modesetting' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

>>59291279
>>59289280
Sorry to burst you're bubble, Pajeet.

>>59291318

COMMANDS
     Interactive commands for more are based on vi(1).

>>59291484
They why is it that when I use

more somefile

, and then try to scroll down with j, it doesn't work?
Also, more can't even scroll up.

>>59291472
>you're

>>59291521
because you didn't read the manual

>>59284810
- poor performance
- poor driver quality
- poor security
- used by crazy no-life people
Sorry but except for hosting your shitty web services with small budget they are no advantages.

>>59291710
That's why we made this thread, so we can help you using GNU/Linux instead.

>>59291546
Less has vi-keys working without extra command line options.
Life is too short to read manpages.

>>59291710
thats why noone uses fedora

>>59291749
REKT.

>>59291749
I was talking about it. Linux needs a better successor but it will probably be the end of the human reign.

>>59291768
Use program for ages.
Finally one day take a look at the manpage.
Realize all the time and effort you could have saved.
Contemplate life choices.

>open text file in more (or less)
>press e
>vi keys

>>59291918
*press v*
>so embarrassed right now

>>59291802
GNU/Redox WHEN?

>>59291966
based GNUdaddy

>>59291855
btw I looked at more's manpage and I still don't know how to ust j/k to scroll up/down.

>>59284833
Either that or he starts the thread...

>>59284833
Thanks for this meme, it's much better than promoting kevin-net. I'm glad we shut that meme down.

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>>59291966
I respected him before, but goddamn. Stallman is fucking God-tier.

That schizo Terry is a poor pretender and amounts to nothing than a fucking gimmick on /g/

Totally serious.

>>59290597

You just proved that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Creating packages for Arch is way easier and more straightforward than packaging for Debian. I take it you've never tried doing both.

>>59290501

Neither do you have any any idea you're talking about. The package builds in he AUR aren't only for git sources. You can package anything, binaries or source, either from releases or from other version control systems.

>>59290479

If you think the AUR is a reason to use Arch, then you're an idiot who is only parroting memes he sees on here.

>>59292046
memes aside, SMGL is a great distro

>>59292188
Forgot to add: I'm on Arch myself, if it matters.

>>59291069
>>59291318

Both of you probably used cat with grep before and now you're acting like you're better just because you read one article where someone smugly pointed it out. Get off your high horse.

Arch is just a stepping stone.

What's the point of Linux when it doesn't have games?

What's wrong with systemd?

>>59292638
As of few weeks ago, Steam has more than 2000 Linux compatible games.

>>59292981
yeah shitty games that look like from the 70s

>>59285455
>>59285428
>>59285317
In addition imo I think the differences between distros is
QE, some distros do an incredible amount of testing on each package to make sure it works right. And each distro picks different versions of packages some only use very stable versions and other distros use the bleeding edge.
Support lifetime, some distros only support a release for a few months, others support for about 3 years and other distros support a release for like 10 years.

On distros that release new versions faster the faster lifecycle means if you have written any of your own custom code, you'll have to rewrite it to upgrade to newer versions of APIs.

Speaking of which... I have used Gentoo for years and Arch and Fedora and for the last few years I've been on Ubuntu LTS because of time constraints I dont have time anymore to tinker with everything and Ubuntu LTS stays stable doesnt need a lot of debugging during package upgrades and the releases are supported for years so I dont have to constantly keep up every few months with new releases.
I kind of wish there was a LTS version of Fedora (no, not CentOS), Fedora with all the Fedora packages, but more stale and longer term support.

Pretty new to Linux stuff, made a terrible choice and installed Ubuntu on a secondary drive. Now I can't get rid of it because I can't boot at all without that drive. Help please.

>>59292488
to nirvana.

>>59293386
>np: Arch Linux - Break me

>>59293005

The timeism in this post is totally offensive. You timeist.

>want to copy pastr from terminal
>ctrl+c
>prints ^C and doesn't work at all
linux is garbage

>>59293558
Torvalds didn't develop your terminal emulator.

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Guys, pls stop baitposting.

>>59293379
what mean?

can't you just format the drive and install something else?

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>>59293558
ctrl shift c.

>>59293558
brainlet

>>59293631
can't, for some reason ubuntu put some sort of boot override deal on my main drive, even though the main drive has an OS on it I can't boot to that OS without the ubuntu drive being connected. Not sure what would happen if I just outright reformatted the ubuntu drive because the boot override isn't even on it.

>>59293619
i must have her

>>59293736
accidental name use, ignore that please.

>>59293736
you don't see grub menu? try update-grub2

when will debian stable get Cinnamon 3.2?

>>59293858
when it's stable

Anyone have the RHCSA cert? About to study for it and was curious what resources they used.

>>59294252
They just gave out some fedora hats to the guys who passed the test.

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>>59293809
grub, that's the name of it. When I'm missing the ubuntu drive it lets me either open op a command line or reboot. I'll try updating it

>>59294437
Grub should see other OSes, no matter where they are. Connect your ubuntu drive, boot, try os-prober or update-grub2 and look what it will tell you. You should be able to see your other OS in grub menu after that.

Probably gonna feel dumb for asking this but in >>>/t/713097 why is all the content >magnet (gibberish) what am I supposed to be doing with that?

>>59294594
- Click on it.
- paste into url bar
- whatever

I currently have a server. File server is running Windows 7 and sharing several drives over the network. I am able to connect to this server no problem from all of the machine's in my network. (2 Ubuntu 16.04, and 2 windows. 10/7). I'm also able to wirelessly connect from my android phone, tablet, and Chromebook.

Randomly, the Linux machines and Android devices can no longer connect. The server and other such connected devices on the network no longer even appear in the "my network" section of their file managers. Even typing the IP of the server in manually doesn't work. They continue to give the "connection timed out" error and that only way to fix this is to restart the server.

Yet the Chromebook and windows PCs on the same network do not have this problem at all. Why can't Linux into networking? I thought this was supposed to be a strong suit of Linux?

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>>59294863
install gentoo

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>>59294492
Turns out I already have GRUB 2.2, I tried messing with boot repair to see what I could do but that didn't seem to accomplish anything. If I completely remove GRUB will I still be able to boot to my main OS? That's my biggest concern seeing as I'm going to pick a different distro for my linux drive. mfw

>>59294998
GNU/Linux*

>>59294998
copy update-grub2 output here

friendly reminder that this is a FRIENDLY thread,

so stop fighting

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>>59295033
didn't do it that way, I already had grub2. My only question now is this: can I completely remove grub and be fine.
>>59295009
:'^( u rite

Okay guys what distro should I install on my grandma's new laptop?

Should I unironically install gentoo? - I've never used it before, just arch

>>59295814
Trisquel. Works for grandpa RMS.

>>59295843
gentoo it is

>>59295903
gentoo is a meme

>>59296196
Everything is a meme.

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>>59296199
I'M A MEME!

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How do I configure the default mount directory in Thunar? I want to change it to /mnt/DriveName/ instead of /run/media/User/DriveName/. There doesn't seem to be anything useful in ~/.config/Thunar/ folder.

Should I just stop being a file manager kiddie?

>>59296279
yes

Is there a way to interactively commit changes from an overlayfs upper into the corresponding lower or is there no way than to accept the whole thing?

What is the best terminal emulator?

what is the best stable release distro

Debian?

what is the best gtk theme?

>>59296745
Arc-dark

what is the best icon theme?

>>59296728
Ubuntu MATE

>>59296810
numix circle

what is the best torrent client?
preferable cli

>>59296882
qbittorrent

>>59296810
ACYL

>>59296882
Transmission, Transmission-cli

what do we do now that everything is compromised?
how do we secure ourselves?

>>59296882
aria2

>>59296936
from what?

Are you having another episode of paranoid-schizophrenia again?

>>59296936
>everything is compromised
It isn't. That's just winbabbies asking for coming back to the botnet.

>>59296959
>from what
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/index.html
>>59296288
>>59292882
>>59290347

>>59296728
Gentoo. Any other answer is objectively wrong.

>>59297170
gentoo is a meme

>>59296989
>rolling release

i need some shit i dont need to update all the time

>>59297191
No, it isn't. "install gentoo" is a meme. Gentoo is not a meme.

>>59296989
I don't know dude. i guess don't be a pedophile or a criminal?

I don't know it's hard to worry about shit that you have pretty much no control over, just don't do illegal shit. Doesn't meanyou have to use every social media and get spied on but I don't see the big deal if you're not some sort of ringleader of a crime syndicate.

>>59297233
it's a waste of time meme

>>59297170
>>59297191
>>59297233
>>59297254
Okay queers give me a normal answer.

Should I install ubuntu mate? fedora? opensuse? there's so many options desu

>>59297275
Debian

>>59297243
>just don't do illegal shit
it ain't all black and white like that

>>59297275
Install the one I like of course :^)

>>59297284
but it sucks

i dont like apt

>>59297275
Gentoo

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>>59297243

>>59297297
kind of is, dude. Just don't be a criminal or conspire to overthrow the government and you'll be A-OK

>>59297254
Gentoo is less of a waste of time than any other system because it's the only OS that just werks without breaking once installed. If a program can be updated, the program will work. Almost the opposite is true on debian which often goes so far as to pretend to provide a program, but actually provides an x windows program that simply pops up a window to tell you that debian does not provide the program, if you're lucky. Otherwise you get shit that breaks all the fucking time, and everytime you upgrade a library, every single program in the system stop functioning. """stable""".

>>59297321
>>59297243
>being this retarded
why do I even come here anymore

>>59297319
I'm not arguing that I DON'T care about privacy, I'm just saying that unfortunately it's impossible to have 100% privacy and I really don't care all that much because I'm not a criminal.

I don't use any social media, but I do use a google account for convenience, I don't discuss overthrowing the government, I don't sell drugs, I'm not part of a terrorist organization

>>59297326
nice meme

>>59297335
>Le everyone is spying on ME
>EVERYONE CARES ABOUT MY PONY PORN COLLECTION, AHHH

do you really think of yourself so much that you think people dedicate time and resources to spying on you? Get over yourself faggot, or maybe go back to sending letters and using deadrops to communicate because the internet is and will continue to be monitored.

>>59297363
It is a fact. If you weren't such a lost cause I'd suggest that you go work for one of the big tech companies because they're very, very proud of the fact they collect every single bit of information they can get their greedy hands on about you and about the fact they store the information including personally-identifiable information.

>>59297388
Okay, let's say this is completely true.

What am I suppose to about it? Drop out of society and live in the middle of the forest? Sorry man but I'm willing to let people collect some info on me if it means I get to enjoy the services they provide.

>>59297363
it's not about me personally

>>59297342
here's one of the things you forgot to mention: politics
really nasty stuff

>>59297342
Good. Don't make any mistakes, either. Oh, don't engage in any anti-establishment activism, either. See someone in power doing something wrong? You betta shut the fuck up and mind your god-damned business. Do as your told. It's only wrong if WE say it is. 2+2=5, o.k.? You are a good citizen- you have nothing to fear.

>>59297467
How do you expect it to be? Can you honestly say you're surprised?

People want to seize and maintain power, if you go against the system the system starts fucking you in the ass back. Just a fact of life.

>>59297487
if the system was fucking you in the ass in the first place you're a cuck if you don't go against it

>>59297510
Yeah that's all nice and dandy as words on an anime imageboard but when it comes down to it you wouldn't make significant sacrifice and possibly even get imprisoned or die for your beliefs.

Would you pick up a rifle and fight against an unjust system, even if you were outnumbered? Probably not so go fuck yourself.

>>59297243
>>59297321
you need to be 18 or older to post here

>>59297563
You need to be a non-pedophile to post here.

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>>59297243
>>59297243
Being concerned about your privacy isn't just for degenerates and terrorist. The issue isn't when someones going to come and get you and kill/lock you up. The problem is with the subtle ability to (legally) manipulate and influence the human mind.

We have a plethora of powerful actors (state, corporate, religious) collecting and analyzing massive amounts of information and then creating, tailoring media (sometimes weaponized) to control the general population.

I, and a lot others, would like to limit the amount of propaganda, for lack of a better term, in our lives.

I want to enjoy a cup of coffee on a cool yet sunny morning, watching the dew drip from a blade of grass. Without my iFag s3X alterting me to an amazon sale of bulk foodsafe lubricant.

>>59297618
I agree with you but I'm saying that i don't go full tinfoil with it.

>>59297550
>Would you pick up a rifle and fight against an unjust system, even if you were outnumbered?
what the fuck are even you on about

I'd most certainly raise my voice against deep issues and if that would get me imprisoned, anonimity and privacy would be nice to have

>>59297646
No, your voice isn't needed. Everyone can post an angry thread but how many are willing to take action - physical action?

Too many thinkers, too many demagogues, not enough doers.

>>59297665
>physical action
in what century do you live in?

>>59285317
If possible, find a youtube tutorial of installation of the distro you're looking into. It'll give you an idea of what you will have control over.

New thread:

>>59297706
>>59297706
>>59297706

>>59297631
There is nothing 'tinfoil' about any of these concerns. "Conspiracy Theory," is a term created by intelligence agencies to obfuscate people with reasonable concerns about the way modern society is run.

Of course, digital security is a cat and mouse game and there will always be an exploit if you spend enough time/effort/money. The point isn't to drive yourself crazy locking down all of your electronics, you should develop a lifestyle where privacy is important and you focus on it. You should limit your use of computers to the instances where they really improve your life, as opposed to how most people make it their life.

Its a fine balance, if you pull it off, no one will look anyway.

>>59297735
that's a really good post

>>59297702
yeah like im going to fall for that

Why would I want to use anything other than ext4, for servers or desktops/laptops?

>>59292293
>article
If by article, you mean

grep --help

, then yes.