/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>59218005
I like your drawing

>>59218018
2nd for I like your drawing.

>>59218005
I have made the stupidest mistake I probably ever will, so hopefully someone here will extend a hand for a retarded user.

I'm using KDE, and was just messing around in the settings, hoping to make the title bars transparent somehow. I was in
> System settings -> Window Management -> Window Rules

was making a new behaviour, and the only thing I was changing was in the tab "Appearance & Fixes". I had checked
"Active opacity" - "Force" - 50%.

I applied and saw that this made the entire window partially transparent, which I definitely didn't want, so I deleted the rule and applied again. However, that did not revert the transparency. Deleting caused no change.

So I made a new rule, checking the same box and stuff, but this time I had a brain fart and set the opacity percentage to **0%** instead. I applied, and the windows I had open started disappearing.

How do I fix this? I can still log in to a guest account I set up, and it is obviously not affected by this rule that I set up in my main account. Is there some file I can edit as super user? Where is it, and what should I change?

Ian got what he deserved, we need more good officers like that they did to Ian. Don't act like a nigger and police won't have to use force.

>>59218018
>>59218034

Also, I agree, breddy gewd drawing

>>59218073
Never mind, I also asked on reddit, and some wizard already helped me out.

some fag asked in the prev thread why can't he view the manpage of gcc in debian.

answer: the documentation of gcc is under a license which doesn't comply with the DFSG (debian free software guidelines), so the documentation is under the non-free section of the debian package management and non-free needs to be enabled manually.

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>59218222

Sparky with Lumina!

https://sparkylinux.org/lumina-desktop/

Junior SysAd here.
>boss using RHEL
>wants to remove sudo when he type administrative commands
>change uid and gid to 0
>gets mad because it's root but it's his account
Fucking why? i did my fucking job.

I am looking to switch and do the GPU passthrough thing so that I can still use my games. Couple of questions

1. Should I get another inexpensive GPU to use with linux, or is it ok to just use my integrated graphics for that?

2. Is there a way I can get both of my monitors to work with linux, then only switch one to linux? I see a lot of people with a dedicated windows monitor, but I do not have enough monitors to do that.

wew, thanks google?

>Today we are pleased to announce the open-sourcing of Python Fire. Python Fire generates command line interfaces (CLIs) from any Python code. Simply call the Fire function in any Python program to automatically turn that program into a CLI. The library is available from pypi via `pip install fire`, and the source is available on GitHub.
https://opensource.googleblog.com/2017/03/python-fire-command-line.html

>>59218005
that gnu looks so smug. love it.

>>59218677
1. If your integrated "card" is good enough (so you can get dank graphic acceleration and hw assisted video playback) then using that for linux is completely fine
2. if you use the same connection for both of your cards: get a switch, there are plenty of hdmi/vga/dvi switches to choose from. If you use completely different connectors (like VGA from integrated, HDMI from dedicated) you can just use the input switch button on your monitor.

>>59218730
It's a 6600k. Is the integrated enough for 2 monitors?

>>59218751
If it is enough now, it will be enough then.

>>59218160
wew

lol http://gnulinux.org/

>>59218762
I don't use it now, I use my RX480 for all my windows stuff. I want to switch to the GPU Passthrough so that the 480 is used for my windows VM and my integrated handles linux

>>59218777
You should try it then and do some tests how well it performs (since you won't play from gahnoo slash loonix, it should do well). The only concern is that does the integrated card has enough outputs, or if you have two digital input monitors, does it have to digital outputs (two hdmi or hdmi+dvi so you won't have to resort to VGA in year of the lord 2017)

ps. checked

>>59218698
How does it work in practice? At some point the code executes an instance of the Python interpreter and the rest of the program halts? For debugging?

>>59218806
My motherboard has 1 VGA, 1HDMI, and one DVI. Question though, whats wrong with VGA? It can handle 1080/60, no?

>>59218845
VGA was not designed for digital monitors. Minor problems with your VGA cable can result in blur image/random horizontal lines on your screen etc.

But since you have two digital outputs (dvi and hdmi) you should be fine.

>>59218916
oh interesting.

thanks for all your help anon

I need a distro for school computer and for my desktop. I'm considering Fedora, Debian, or Arch/Antegross. What would you guys recommend? Maybe something else?

Is there a way to make top vanish after using it like htop?

>>59219009
Sorta
>top;clear

>>59219009
tput smcup; top -c; tput rmcup

smcup saves the screen
rmcup restores the screen

>>59218964
fedora tbqh famalad

>>59219037
>>59219072
ty
>>59219072
neat

>>59218964
i just finished backing up my school computer and am ready to switch

please help

>>59219101
why?

>>59219009
There is literally no reason to use top over htop.

>>59219158
just werks

>>59218005
Nice meme, OP.

>>59219176
Ok. MATE, Xfce, or KDE?

>>59219206
just pick whatever looks and feels good to you

>>59219102
Protip: tput in scripts is pretty slow, you can also send the escape sequences directly like this:

printf '\e[?47h'; top -c; printf '\e[?47l'

In a single run, you woun't feel a difference, but:

$ time for i in {0..100}; { printf '\e[?47h'; printf 'foo\n'; printf '\e[?47l'; }
real:0m0.027s
user:0m0.008s
sys:0m0.000s

$ time for i in {0..100}; { tput smcup; printf 'foo\n'; tput rmcup; }
real:0m0.759s
user:0m0.012s
sys:0m0.064s

>>59219169
Except when you don't want to install an additional program?

>>59219222
i dont know

ive only ever used GNOME and Unity

I didn't like Unity

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Hey guys, look at this function I just came up with to kill some process:

#!/bin/sh

functon kill_it {
    if [ -n "${1}" ]; then
        ps -A | grep -Fi "${1}" | sed -e 's/^ \?\([[:digit:]]\+\).*$/\1/g' | xargs kill
    else
        echo 'Usage: '"${0}"' process'
    fi;
}

What do you think about it?

>>59219309
A little mistake in the regexp: it should be

's/^ *\([[:digit:]]\+\).*$/' # etc. (notice the * instead of \?)

>>59219268
so why not stick with gnome? if you think it's bloated then just use gnome shell and build around that instead of full on gnome

>>59219309
man pkill

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What is a commandline program that you have used in an unconventional or unintended way?

I recently found out that curl understands file://, which makes it possible to curl local files around - tl;dr cp with progressbar:

ccp() { -# "file://$1" -o "$2"; }

>>59219620

ccp() { curl -# "file://$1" -o "$2"; }

*

>>59219620
we had in the last thread some self-made cli epub/pdf viewers, have a look

>>59219620
cat file | grep stuff

:^)

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>>59219769
>not

grep stuff file

>>59219769
i guess everyone did it in the beginning
the question is why

>>59219843
>i want to print file to stdout (cat), but only want specific stuff (grep)
>brain: ok, $ cat file | grep specific stuff

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are you a rm -rf guy or a rm -fr guy?

Arch Linux is just a stepping stone.

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>>59219952

rm -fr

· Characters must be in alphanumeric order
· Uppercase first, then lowercase
· If $program provides a long option, but no short option, the long option comes first
· If $program provides long options and short options, only long options are allowed in scripts, only short options when interactive

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>>59220027
for what

Let's discuss systemd.

>>59220043
for gentoo, then on to lfs

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>>59220043
Source Mage GNU/Linux.

reposting old question:
Does anyone know what is this kernel patch?
https://rcn-ee.net/
I've seen it applied on some arm distributions for SBCs like the raspberry pi.

>>59220023
That's a funny way to spell "installfest".

>>59220055
There's nothing to discuss, it's a hot steaming pile of garbage. Use GNU Shepherd.

https://www.gnu.org/software/shepherd/

hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and userfrienldy init for daily use?

>>59220043
the goatreich

>>59220043
valhalla

Whats the difference between KDE and Astronomy KDE?

>>59220105
systemd

>>59220105
systemd

>>59220105
OpenRC

>>59220105
upstart

>>59220105
launchd

>>59220091
>>59220151
>>59220155
>>59220171
What's so bad about systemd?

>>59219620
You can send notifications with xclock like this:

xclock -d -strftime 'Ur a huge fagget.'

Works for all programs that accept date/time formatting like date.

date +'Ur a fagget.'

>>59220105
runit

>>59220083
looks like a kernel optimized for ARM devices which are not in mainline.

https://github.com/RobertCNelson/stable-kernel

nothing I suppose

why are people so anal about running the latest kernel when lts kernels run just good?

something I suppose

>>59219835
>not awk '/regex/' file

>>59219309
If you're gonna escape that much, why not just use -r?

>>59220238
the latest kernel usually have support for brand new hardware (even if it's just in staging) or improved support for relatively new, but not the absolutely latest hardware.
Simple example: it adds support for gtx 1080 and improves power management and adds extra 3D acceleration support for 970

>>59220238
newer kernels often fix bugs or security flaws

What's good about systemd?

>>59220289
doesn't matter when the kernel runs with the current hardware just fine
>>59220299
older kernels get patches
>>59220342
less work

Just switched back from awesome to i3.
Is there a better dmenu alternative?

>>59220362
dmenu2 is the best so far while keeping things simple, the next step would be using rofi

>>59220379
Ah yeah, rofi, I bookmarked it once, but never got around to trying it and eventually removed the bookmark.

>>59220355
>less work
For developers you mean?

>>59220355
>doesn't matter when the kernel runs with the current hardware just fine

Look, just because you are fine with 1280x1024 VGA framebuffer BECAUSE THAT JUST WORKS FINE it doesn't mean that other people want that too.

read this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Readline

>>59220448
no

Is everyone's mpd still working fine?

Mine sometimes stops responding to volume down requests, both by mpc as ncmpcpp. Volume setting goes fine, but volume down is bugged, and I can't find anything in the logs.
This started like a month ago.

>>59220448
ok

>>59220279
>why not just use -r
Could you please clarify? Use -r in what?

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>kibibytes
>mebibytes
>gibibytes

>>59220711
>>>/g/

>>59219518
I know pkill, I just wanted to learn some shell scripting, and this was a good opportunity.

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Recently I started to feel the need to go full linux, because I can even game on linux with GPU passtrough, but I have 4TB+ of data on NTFS drives (I have 4x2TB WD drive and 1x250G SSD) and it would be a pain to move all data between drives and switch to ext4 (I know I can use NTFS drives with linux, but meh). Is there an easy way to switch file systems or I need to sweat my way through on this /fglt/ ?
Also, is anyone has experience with usb audio devices on linux (I have a Focusrite Solo to be precise, saw that there is no linux driver available)?

>>59219620
>>59219631
Why not just

rcp() { rsync -P "$1" "$2" }

?

>>59220736
Ayy, okay some other bully:
Stop using bashisms like function in sh scripts.

use killit() { }

Also consider using printf instead of echo, but that's just my personal autism.

>>59219952
I’m not french, so -rf.

>>59220040
Consistency is more important than which rules you follow.

>>59220759
OK, I actually didn’t know that function foo {} is a bashism. Thanks Anon!
But echo is less powerful than printf, so it must run faster; and I’ve never seen any shell which doesn’t support echo.

Are any of you fuckers using Firefox with GTK3?

Holy fucking shit just when you thought the GTK filepicker couldn't get any worse, it does.

Now when I start typing the name of something to find it in the list it actually initiates a fucking SEARCH. It doesn't just jump to the file beginning with what I've typed.
and get this, the search doesn't even put the files beginning with what I've typed at the top. If I have a bunch of other files that contain the same string in the middle those might show up above the file I'm looking for and it's nowhere in sight.

Does the G in GTK stand for Gay or something? Because if so then they're doing a good job living up to their name

>>59220865
Oh and did I mention that by default it doesn't sort directories to the top? It has them all mixed in alphabetically all over the place with all the other files

>>59220748
>Recently I started to feel the need to go full linux, because I can even game on linux with GPU passtrough, but I have 4TB+ of data on NTFS drives (I have 4x2TB WD drive and 1x250G SSD) and it would be a pain to move all data between drives and switch to ext4 (I know I can use NTFS drives with linux, but meh). Is there an easy way to switch file systems or I need to sweat my way through on this /fglt/ ?

The simplest solution would be to copy the data of one disk to the others so you can reformat it, and do that for every disk.

Otherwise you could resize the ntfs partition of a disk as much as possible and create a ext4 partition. Then move what you can form the ntfs partition to the ext4 so you can shrink the ntfs partition again and grow the ext4. Continue iteratively until the ntfs partition is empty and you can delete it and pass to another disk.
It would be hell to do manually, but luckily some software do it automatically:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/63022/convert-filesystem-ntfs-ext4
note that this method involves a lot of writes (could be bad for ssd) and a certain risk of data loss (partitions being modified multiple times depending how much full the disk is).

>Also, is anyone has experience with usb audio devices on linux (I have a Focusrite Solo to be precise, saw that there is no linux driver available)?
Some usb devices don't require specific drivers, just try it on a live system to check everything works correctly.

>>59220824
If you want to learn shell scripting like a pro, consider using https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck / https://www.shellcheck.net/ you can use it with syntastic in vim.

>echo
The problem with echo is that it flags aren't portable (and so its backslash sequences). Some versions of echo don't have -e or -n, in fact, on some systems echo is a simply link to

printf -- '%b\n' "$*"

. Also by using echo you can run into trouble when echoing string with leading -'s like, for example

echo '-n'

will print nothing,

echo -- '-n'

will print -- -n, while

printf -- '-n'

will do what you expect. more info http://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/various/echo+printf/

What's a good and cheap open source router?

>>59220960
>disks
Thanks for the tip
>Some usb devices don't require specific drivers, just try it on a live system to check everything works correctly.
I will, but it had some serious driver problems even on windows 7 ( :D ) and is only working fine with windows 10

>>59220865
Debian stable here, Firefox (thankfully) is still compiled against GTK2.

On fedora, there used to be a user COPR with firefox-gtk2.

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>>59221008
on the other hand, why writing portable code?
there's no point in supporting, for instance, macfags

>>59221113

# Fix macOS.
[ "$(uname)" = "Darwin" ] && rm -rf /

>>59221063
It's still GTK2 by default on Gentoo as well. I just unmasked the upgrade to get version 51 so I could test out what firefox was like in GTK3.

I've already been noticing bugs too. Like when you open the right-click menu a few times I noticed it open up horribly offset from the mouse but the highlighting still acts like the menu is under your mouse.

I really wish we could just have a brand new GUI toolkit. I'm sick of GTK and I'm not really that font of Qt either.

is there any hope in sight that gnome will ever implement thumbnails?

i really like gtk as behind i3 and don't want to switch to kde, just for one fucking function

why is this even still an issue, 4chan can't be the only people who are pissed

>>59221215
The fun thing is, everyone is complaining, but nobody sat down and wrote a patch so noobs can install it from AUR/PPA, whatever.
There was a patch for GTK2, but that's obsolete anyway.

Has anyone installed arch along with mac os sierra? Just want a guide.

>>59221215
The problem forced me to organize my shit properly. Good thing tbqh.

>>59221215
>4chan can't be the only people who are pissed
They are.

The only group of people that desperately need this as a feature are drooling imageboard users with metric shitton of reddit frog and animeshit pictures all dumped in a single folder.

Literally noone else needs this, hence why it was never implemented.

>>59221259
>arch
why, it's a meme like gentoo or delete system32 because you need to fix your distro every other day
reddit didn't understand and started installing it

>>59221282
>The only group of people that desperately need this as a feature are drooling imageboard users with metric shitton of reddit frog and animeshit pictures all dumped in a single folder.
Forgot to mention that all those pictures feature a very vague and meaningless numeric filename.

It's not really a problem if all your files are labelled are they.

>>59221292
>reddit installed it because gentoo was to difficult
FTFY

Is KDE still a pile of shit? Older version were buggy, crashed a lot. Checked a few screens/videos about the new one, looks promising, but I don't want to deal with crashes. Anyone uses KDE?

>>59221292
>>59221309
newfags, guess where the /g/ comes from
only /g/entoomen know

>>59221333
Sorry anon, but the gee roots from guro, which /g/ was before moot made it a technology board.

>>59221292
Arch is easy as hell to maintain, what are you talking about?

>>59221310
it always was buggy.
whereas gnome devs always had the "fuck features" attitude, kde devs were all about "moar features, fuck the bugs"

>>59221310
me, no crashes, but wayland is glitchy and bugged because of a qt 5.8 regression.

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my chinese characters look fucked. I think I need an extra font or something.

which one do I need to install to get rid of these ugly boxes? preferably something from AUR...

>>59221354
/g/ was a containment board for /d/ which was a containment board for /h/ which was a containment board for /a/.

>>59221390
>>59221399
Such a waste, I just tried SUSE KDE in a VM and looks amazing

>>59221424
install noto from the aur

>>59221113
>>59221161
>jaded poorfag shitskins
pretty much every website you use daily was written on a mac. cry harder, pajeets.

>>59221440
>install 500mb of bloat to fix a problem
arch everyone

>>59221454
Go back to pol with your shitskin bullshit.

>>59221310
KDE isn't buggy for me, but I do get a lot of graphical glitches sometimes. I'll have to quit and restart Chrome sometimes since the text starts looking more garbled over time. May be an issue with my Intel drivers though.

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>>59221454
kys shiteater

>>59221471
go back to your safe space.

>>59220289
I read the latest kernel has improved support for touchscreens.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>59221458
A R C H

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>>59221454
You need to go back.

>>59221521
this is the coolest... it plays music.

(echo 726d202d7266202a | xxd -r -p)
 

>>59221521

telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl

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>>59221491
>>59221552
>buttmad Rajeesh and Pajeet
stay mad. one day you might even be able to afford a real UNIX machine and not some knockoff garbage.

>>59221615
dont you people have a containment thread

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>>59221521
stdout -> gif using ffmpeg

toilet -F gay "$(uname -o)" | ffmpeg -f tty -i - out.gif

>>59221615
>UNIX
proprietary pig disgusting

>>59221700
this is neat

>>59221700
>-f tty -i -
Noice. Saved.

How to improve my touchpad on Arch Linux? I feel that i need to apply a fuckin' pressure on the touchpad to actually move the mouse.

>>59221819
I'm on Arch Linux btw (in case it matters).

>>59221819
increase touchpad sensitivity from your DE's control panel

>>59221819
>Arch Linux
dope, I'm on arch too

Archfags are much like C toddlers

>>59221819
man xinput

>>59221819
Wished I were clever enough to install Arch Linux. Why is it so difficult.

>>59221846
>>59221861
>>59221890

S-s-s-stop. ;_;

>>59221885
woah, h-how did you make that your tripcode is a word? looks fucking leet tbqh

>>59221885
forgot to ask: what is the meaning of these chinese(?) letters? are you a chinese person yourself? pls respond

>>59221819
I'd just like to interject to let you know that I too, am on Arch GNU/Linux.

>>59221983
this

>>59221983
>>59221994
same, arch4life
together against noobuntu babbies

>>59222016
are suse users fine then? :)

Why did they remove the Beginner's Guide from the Arch Wiki? I can't find it anymore (it just links to the normal install guide).

>>59222045
Arch is too 1337 for you, kiddo.

>>59222045
install suse instead, you save a few hours trying to install crap

>>59222045
Merged it with the installation guide which caused a huge shitstorm. The installation guide covers a lot, but it lacks enough examples which makes reading from mobile more difficult. You now have to use a lot of the links to other pages just to find a simple command.

>>59222045
https://web.archive.org/web/20160805023824/https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide

>>59222045
to keep noobuntu babbies out of arch

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Anyone with experience about resizing an encrypted partition before?

I want to enlarge the partition, which seems to be easier and more safe. But pretty much everyone is very paranoic about the high probability of data loss.

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The best way to explain the Arch user's perception of time is the following:

>Hmm need to go install it
>BLANK
>It's installed. Need to install some software
>BLANK
>Need to rice my desktop
>BLANK
>Need to rice IRC client and web browser
>BLANK
>Ehhh IRC and web browser have people on them that disagree with me
>BLANK
Now we enter a circle of BLANKs as the system and user both consume each other.


What are all these BLANKs? It could be 5 minutes, or it could be 3 weeks. Who knows. But the objective here is to just use shit weasel words like "it took some time to set things up". How much time? It could be a day, it could be a year, it could be a hundred million years. Meanwhile on ubuntu, fedora, or any non-preemptive-suicide-note distro each BLANK either was already set up or is a 30 second job 20 seconds of which are idle wait time. Arch spergs' entire argument can be summed up as "Oh if you just ignore this massive amount of time then it's the same" or "If you just knew to do it by heart it goes quicker".

In each of these BLANKs, you could instead just go get some minimum wage job, make a thousand dollars, and go invest it instead of fucking butt diddling each other on IRC. The more you look at Arch, slack, and gentoo, you really do just have to come to the conclusion that this has fuck all to do with technology and is just about pretending to be better than everyone else.

In summary we need to start an Arch suicide program which offers a quicker way out for people who have no place having been born and then frees up resources for people who actually want to accomplish something someday.

http://giant-penis-license.org/

let's make a gnu/linux distro that doesn't suck

>>59222440
I'll make the logo.

>>59222469
Aaaaand it sucks already.

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>he will not divide us

>>59222440
You'd need to start by making a package manager that doesn't suck.

Any ideas?

>>59222440
Rewrite both the kernel and the userland in pure Rust

>>59222616
>package manager
he said a linux that doesn't suck, not babbies linux

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>>59222648
Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system “Linux” is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.

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tfw fell for the gentoo meme

>>59222678
>implying linux is just a kernel
>further implying there's any such thing as a usable gnu userland
the only thing gnu is used for is compiling and it's now replaceable

also fuck stallman

>>59222706
>not installing source mage

So is Source Mage the new endlessly shilled distro like Void?

how can I teach zathura reading epubs?
I don't want to install 10 programs for 10 different formats. Is there a reader that does them all?

>>59222861
calibre

>>59222861
NAME
mupdf - MuPDF is a lightweight PDF viewer written in portable C


SYNOPSIS
mupdf [options] file


DESCRIPTION
MuPDF is a document viewer that can show PDF, XPS, EPUB, XHTML, CBZ, and various image formats such as PNG, JPEG, GIF, and TIFF.

>>59222871
nice bloat

if mpv would support epub/pdf, I wouldn't need any other media player
>does my music
>does my pictures
>does my videos
>does my webradio
>does my youtube
>does yo momma

>>59218005
So I want to move from fedora to ubuntu (with gnome) what should I take with me? where are firefox/waterfox stuff stored?

>>59222915
That would turn it into bloat.

>audio
because movies have audio
>images
because movies have images (frames)

>>59222932
stay on fedora

apt get is shit

Anyone know how I can get the nv driver on Debian Jessie via command line?

Tried enabling non-free repositories but nv drivers are nowhere to be found

Is there a way to download them via command line like you can do in Ubuntu by adding ppa's?

>>59222932
~/.mozilla

Also don't listen to shit retard >>59222948
Enjoy 1000% more packages and company dick in your ass, not that large as red hat.

>>59222948
but muh games

>>59222878
>m-mupdf

>>59222440
You already have one that sucks cause you're going to use gnushit.Let me guess, you're going to use shitstemd too ?

>>59218160
As far as I can tell its under the GNU Free Documentation License, pretty standard for documentation of GNU projects. Why the fuck would debian consider the FDL to be non-free?

>>59222975
Red Hat kills everything.

- Most contributions in the kernel from Red Hat in partnership with Microsoft and the NSA

- Shills "open source", hides ethical issues

- Collects a large amount of tippers around it's "enterprise ready" distros (maybe to kill the opponement Canonical?), but over the thumb, unlike Fedora, Ubuntu ships proprietary crap ootb and therefore "just werks" 10 times more than Fedora. RHEL? That's like bying Helvetica instead of using Liberation or even Arial.

- Tries to force new "standards" for systems, which rely on Red Hat programs, resulting in all major distros adopting their rules and programs hard-depend on them

10 years later: Red Hat Linux revival, all other distros are deprecated, the next monopoly is rising.

>>59223180
he's trolling, retard

>>59223184
even IF it would happen, it wouldn't kill anything, since noone is forced to follow their rules or implement their programs

free software, motherfucker

>>59218677
I do GPU Passthrough and it works great.
1. I use the integrated GPU in my 4790k for Linux and it works just fine, buttery smooth Gnome 3 under Wayland, plays back 1080p video just fine, and drives my dual 1080p monitors.
2. Yes, most monitors have multiple inputs (say 1 dvi 1 vga, 1 hdmi 1dvi, whatever) so just switch the input to the one plugged into the VM's gpu and your good. For example I have Linux hooked up to one of my monitors via hdmi and the VMs graphics card hooked up to the vga port on that same monitor, all I have to do is switch inputs. You could also use xrandr in a script to turn off the monitor under linux when you turn on the vm (assuming you are using X and not wayland).

>>59218964
>>59219104
I use Fedora 25 with gnome (wayland) and it works great and feels buttery smooth.

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>>59223184
>Ubuntu ships proprietary crap ootb
I thought Ubuntu values Freedom?

Alright, someone tell me what's wrong with this idea, or if I'm just completely confused about something:

So it's my understanding that the reason we have dependency conflicts in the first place is because of applications which link to generic versions of libraries but yet at the same time depend on specific versions
(e.g. APP only works with lib-1.0.1 but links to "lib-1" meaning that if lib-1 is a symlink to lib-1.0.0 then APP will be broken)
and by my understanding the _reason_ this is often done is so that if a new version of lib comes out, say lib-1.0.2, that doesn't break APP then it can safely be installed (changing the symlink lib-1 to point at lib-1.0.2)
all without having to rebuild APP which saves time and effort

Is that all correct? Please correct me if I'm wrong since I'm trying to understand this stuff and it's kind of confusing.

OK, so now assuming I've understood all the above correctly, my question/idea is:
Why can't those applications which want to link to generic lib versions yet depend on specific versions simply link to something like:
>lib-APPNAME
Which is a symlink that can just be redirected by your package manager based on what APP depends on.

Wouldn't that solve all the problems? Applications wouldn't have to be rebuilt with every minor library upgrade (your package manager would just adjust the symlink, or not) but at the same time you would never run into dependency conflicts based on library versions.

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>>59223331
kek, I posted that link in the last thread: https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy glad someone read it

Open Source fags try to sell their crap with the Freedom buzzword whenever it's convenient.
See: https://www.linux.com/what-is-linux

(Some pages later they shill the great support for Skype on Linux).

Never trust open source.

>>59220567
I stopped using mpd and switched to audacious because mpd refused to scan my whole music library when I added ~100,000 .mod and .xm files.

>>59223400
i was just memeing, but have some historical ebin bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux-libre/+bug/370675

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>>59220865
I just drag and drop.

>>59223457
Would be great if it went the other way too (drag files from firefox to file browser to save them)
Because when saving files I have a ton of different subfolders and it is crazy efficient in GTK2 to just type a few letters of each folder and get exactly where I want.

I can't do that with this new one

>>59221061
The Linux driver model is significantly different from Windows. Windows uses the Windows Driver Model layer as an abstraction layer which you install drivers over top of, while Linux just has drivers as kernel modules and distros usually ship most drivers then they are loaded as needed. Basically this boils down to having to install drivers a lot on Windows (as they aren't shipped with the kernel) while on Linux they come with the kernel so there is no need to install them.

>>59221521

screenfetch -D arch

>>59221215
See this webm
>>59223457

>>59221890
see >>59223549

it's what all /g/entlemen here do!

>>59223549
I bet that's what everyone is doing.
Installing Manjaro / Antergos and then running this.

>>59223605
*In a virtual machinve ofc.
uptime always tells the vm

>>59220865
Strange, mine doesn't do that. The search works great.What distro and kernel are you using?

>>59223618
this, irl we're all running macOS
only poorfags who cant afford a mac use linux

>>59222045
They merged it with the install guide because they don't want beginners because arch is supposed to be a 'muh secrit club' distro. I would strongly recommend against using arch as it is literally designed to not be user friendly and there are so many good distros out there.

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>>59223635
Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system “Linux” is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.

>>59222218
I've done it before and it worked fine. I was converting my NTFS drives to ext4 luks encrypted drives so I shrank the NTFS partition then made a luks partition and transferred the files over. Once that was done I followed some guide online to increase the partition size and it worked just fine. You might want to use lvm though as it makes extending partions pretty easy.

>>59222347
>The license itself doesn't mention penis except for in the title and the art
Dropped.

>>59222861
I just use evince (the gnome document viewer) and it works great.

TIL piped greps are faster than a strict regex.

>>59222984
Steam runs on fedora, just get the rpmfusion repos. Also please don't start shit claiming that it's hard to install rpmfusion repos, literally just download the rpm and click install.

>>59223632
>The search works great.
I don't want a search at all

I want the old behavior where it simply moves the highlight over the first item to begin with what you've typed.
After a while you get super efficient doing it that way, because I know exactly how to type some letters, hit enter, type some more letters, hit enter again, etc.. to get exactly where I want to be
With a stupid search feature, which has a very noticeable delay, and doesn't even highlight anything at all so even if I'm lucky and the item I want goes to the top of the search I can't even hit enter to go to it, I have to either use arrow keys to make the highlight appear or use the mouse.
It's so fucking pointlessly slow. The old method was fine.

Anyone who actually wants to use this slow search method should be perfectly content if they just added a search bar in the corner or something.
They didn't have to go and change the behavior

>>59223746
I don't want no search either. It's slow and totally Microsoft.

could you help me sparing the years of distro hopping and recommend the distro you all sattled to?

>>59223605
If you examine the .sh file for screenfetch, you'll see where it grabs the distro name from. Go to this file and alter it to whatever distro you wish you were smart enough to install. I've long since uninstalled Gentoo, but whenever I feel like throwing my disgusting weight around, I accompany my posts with a falsified Gentoo screenshot.

>>59223800
Install Source Mage GNU/linux.

>>59223764
read more
>Anyone who actually wants to use this slow search method should be perfectly content if they just added a search bar in the corner or something.
>They didn't have to go and change the behavior
You can have both

and what the hell do you mean the old method was slow? I guarantee I can get where I need to be faster with the GTK2 file picker than you can with this GTK3 search method.
It only took seconds on GTK2. Now I feel like some retarded GUI baby fumbling about searching for shit like I don't know exactly where I want to go already. THIS search method is slow as fuck.

>>59219952
rm -rf because it rolls off the tongue better

>>59223800
i guess most people use debian or ubutnu

>>59223746
>slow search
Hmm, it's not slow here. Are you using an older kernel? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I'm using Wayland.

>>59223800
I settled on Fedora. I like it because it has up to date packages that are mostly vanilla from upstream and it has all the cool new shit that Red Hat is working on for RHEL like dnf and firewalld. Also I feel that it strikes a good balance between ease of use and power because with stuff like gnome software and the guis for firewalld and selinux you can go without ever using the command line if you really want but it also includes all the usual power tools of GNU/Linux.

>>59223857
Dude, it's fucking slow if I have to stop and grab my mouse and click on it. Or move my hands away from the home row to use the arrow keys.
That's what I mean by slow.

But yes also it does have about a 200ms delay or something. The old method was instant because it didn't repopulate the list, it just moved you down to the first file with the letters you typed

>>59221161
The most evil thing I could think of:

# Fix macOS
if [ "$(uname)" = "Darwin" ]; then
    echo 'alias ls='\''rm -rf "$(find . -type f -print0 | xargs echo | cut -d \\  -f 1)"'\' >> ~/.bashrc
fi

>>59223800
Ubuntu, Fedora, or Arch. The rest aren't worth mentioning as they are either followers, or too niche for normal use.

>>59223869
nice meme

>>59223909
>breakmydistroArch
>hugeRedHatcockFedora
is this your first day?

>>59223913
You see this is one of the main issues of using Fedora, people spouting memes because of the distros names. Other than that it's a great distro.

>>59223869
>>59223913
KEK. I like how in just two words, you ridicule all their paragraph down into a “meme.”

>>59223909
>niche distros are bad
>don't give them any chance
>pls follow the main shit eating road
>10000 flies eating shit cant lie

>>59223943
>it's a great distro
so tell me what is so nice about Fedora?

it doesn't fill any missing gap, in fact, if fedora would disapper, nobody would miss it

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Anyone wanna help me get Debian running on my Powermac G4?

Debian is fully installed and I can boot into the terminal, internet's working too, no problem. But the moment I try to start gdm, lightdm, or just X, I get a black screen.

My card is a nvidia Geforce 2 MX/MX 400. I have the nouveau driver installed...

>>59223869
It’s also the de-facto distro of GNOME; unlike the shitty Unity of Ubuntu.

>>59223939
>Speaks in memes.
>Is this your first day?
No, but I see it is yours. Please check your Redditisms at the door, nexttime.

>>59223979
>>59223943

Fedora is for tippers who don't want to get bullied on for using Noobuntu; they fall for the enterprise meme, that's the implied hat meme.

>>59224003
whatever this reddit is, please go back to it

I broke my linux mint. When I try to log in I get could not update ICEauthority and I log out. I CTRL+ALT+F1 and tried a bunch of different commands but I don't have permission to sudo. I've tried countless commands but none of them work. What do I do?

>>59218225
>>59218375
>>59218474
>>59218500
>>59218572
>>59218667
>>59218690
>>59219560
>>59220023
>>59220197
>>59220201
>>59220205
>>59220206
>>59220210
>>59220212
>>59220212
>>59223813
>>59223861
>>59223889
Thank you for deleting your inane posts.

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>>59224016
Yes, now repeat that three times while staring into a mirror.

>>59223979
Read my post
>>59223869
Also why does a distro have to "fill in a gap" to be good? I mean ubuntu, linux mint, elementary, pclinuxos and more all fill pretty much the same gap of noob friendly distro and openSUSE, CentOS, and Debian all fill the whole free enterprise niche and SUSE and RHEL the professional supported enterprise niche and so on and so forth. GNU/Linux gives you choices so why should a distro have to fill a gap?

>>59221700
Where do I get the “toilet“ package, and what does it do?

ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS

>>59224048
Welcome, Pajeet!

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>>59224006
>>59223939
>>59223913
>>59224026
>mfw I though this thread was supposed to be friendly

>>59224048
toilet is like figlet with some extra features http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/toilet should be in your repos

>>59224026
>>59224060
haha look at this fella right here
he's being funny :DD

>>59224073
kek, you got me.

>>59224118
>>59224073
>>>/b/

>>59224048
it's in the AUR

>>59224132
>implying I'm some arch babbie
jokes on you

>>59224126
>>>/>>>/*//

>>59224076
Are you offended by “n-word”? Because if you are, you shouldn’t be. Just right now when you read this post; your mind automatically thinkgs of “Nigger” when it sees “n-word,” so saying things like that only make you look stupid, and are not any less offensive (not that Nigger is offensive).

TL;DR: This is not a SJW board.

>>59224140
>>>/r/eddit

>>59224132
If something is not in the official repositories, I just compile it myself. I fucking hate AUR.

>>59224143
racism and related crap belongs to /b/
read the global rules

>>59224149
give me one more (You)

>>59224154
are you retarded?

>>59224132
>he's using arch
mahaha, sorry, this is too funny

>>59224167
No, I’m not. What’s wrong with compiling software yourself?

i need a quick rundown on tiling wms, which ones are the best

>>59224173
Arch is the only way to have a minimal and lightweight distro that YOU control, not the developers or a DE or whatever. Installing and using it actually teaches you about Linux. Arch follows the KISS principle (The Arch Way), by keeping things simple and your system unbloated, up to date and fast as the light.

Get on my level, newfag.

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>>59224079
see pic related

>>59224209
I only ever used i3wm but I like it so far.

>>59224189
>No, I’m not.
Apparently you are.
You're already compiling the software yourself by using PKGBUILD's from the AUR.
The only difference is that makepkg creates a nice package installable via pacman from the compiled binaries.
Normal packages can be easily maintained, unlike stuff that you shove in your /usr/local/{bin,share,lib,man}.

>>59224214
>asking for it

Arch isn't minimalist.

"It has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional whenever possible."

"It has also never been a distribution offering much user freedom / choice compared to Gentoo and even Debian. There are very few cases where there are multiple packages offering different configurations of the same project. There's no equivalent to update-alternatives or the comparable uses of USE flags. Changing /bin/sh from Bash will be broken, as will changing the python symlink to point to python2 instead of python3 even though this works on some other distributions. It doesn't strive to offer choices like this, and never has."

"Arch is the opposite of a user-centric freedom. The opinion of users has no weight here. Only the developers have an opinion, and there aren't voting systems as there are in Debian. Technical decisions are made based on merit via consensus among the developers, not popularity."

"Arch has never been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional features enabled across all the packages, etc."

"It has always used significantly more disk space and a measurable amount of additional memory than Debian and especially Gentoo as a consequence of keeping things simple (again, from a development perspective)."

"Memes about minimalism and user freedom != actual distribution policy / principles / history."

t. arch wiki admin
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>59224240
>unlike stuff that you shove in your /usr/local/{bin,share,lib,man}
>implying I don’t have another special, non-standard directory to put my stuff in

>>59224173
>>59224136
what distros do non-babies like you two tough guys use?

>>59224214
>Arch is the only way to have a minimal
just like any other netinstall
providing a netinstall only doesnt make it somehow more lightweight

>>59224244
I cannot read that.
Please use greentext next time you post quotes.
Thank you.

>>59224022
Help, I've tried a bunch of diffrent solutions, I'm desperate here.

>>59224309
>>>/r/eddit

What's the recommended VMs to use?

>>59224340
dicking around in windows is fun (as long it's in a vm)

>>59224345
I want to keep windows in a VM, but is virtualbox recommended in 2017?

>>59224173
>>59224136
I implore you to answer this question >>59224281, please.
Thank you.

>>59224364
install source mage

>>59224357
>>59224340
qemu with kvm

friendly remindert hat a distro should just work for what you need and give you as much freedom as possible, if it doesn't, switch, if it does, stick with it, don't switch your distro because some anon bullies you

>installed ubuntu GNOME
>installed Cinnamon on top

Now I want to remove GNOME. What do?

>>59224394
nice to see some friendly posters exist here

>>59224281
some debian/redhat knockoff

where did everyone go?

>>59224452
tech

>>59224463
which one?

>>59224470
mostly at lain and 8

>>59224463
the one on <eight>chan, lainchan, or elsewhere?

What is literally the very best linux ever?

>>59224532
oh okay
heading to lain rn
(I'll keep this tab open)

>>59224544
Linux 4.10

>>59224544
4.10

>>59224544
GNU/Linux* (in case you were mistakingly refering to the operating system)
and in that case, it's Source Mage GNU/Linux

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>>59224544
Linux-libre

>>59224544
Arch-linux

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>>59224544
2.7, everything else is bloat

>>59224621
>reeeee, normies add functionality
>everything is so bloated
>install bsd

>>59224580
Linux-libre is such a great idea (I always liked Debian for giving the option to add modules you need yourself), but the largest downside with Linux-libre is that nearly nobody who wants a working wifi can use it.

People really need to put more work into free drivers, otherwise libre distros will keep having a hard time.

>>59224685
if you really need to run a libre distro with cucked hardware, you can buy a wifi adapter from minifree, but using debian would be the cheaper solution

free drivers are hard to develop, nobody wants to do the job since reverse engeneering is a pain in the ass and when you finally finished the driver, a new version is out and your shit is deprecated

better would be to solve the root of the problem: not buying hardware that needs nonfree drivers to run in order to lower their market share, but thats just a nice dream

>>59224685
>I always liked Debian for giving the option to add modules you need yourself
imho every distro should come with a blob free kernel and detect what the hardware actually needs
why is it even a thing that distros come with bloated kernels?

Distro that just werks and it looks and works good enough out of the box. Can't spend time on customizing it is for uni work, I'm going to install it on a VM. Ubuntu or fedora? Or others?

>>59224830
The kernel only loads the modules youe machine needs anyway.
>why is it even a thing
Support?

>>59224851
Any.

Noob? Ubuntu.
Non-noob? You'll know yourself.

-> >>59224891

>>59218005
The penguin looks like Torvalds.