/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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Should I max out the ram on my x200?
I'm doing pretty well with just 2GB and 4GB swap on my SSD.
I've even tried to trigger swap thrashing and I had like 40 chrome tabs open to make it happen.
I never do that.

Since the old thread is probalby dying:
>>59173820

>>59173637
Reposting from last thread

>>59173637
What makes you think software projects need lots of hardware specs unless your software actually requires those specs, like a video game?

To cut down on compile time, use a build system like make and rebuild only the object files with changes and relink instead of completely rebuilding your executable from scratch.

If you're actually at the point where compiles take several minutes, you will have a compile farm for this purpose.

>>59173936
Try compiling CLANG in debug mode with less than 16 gb of RAM. It will fail during linking. Honestly it will only work with 16 if you're really lucky.

Seriously, go try it.

>>59174005
COMPILE FARM

>>59174021
I AM EMPLOYED THROUGH SCHOOL SO THIS I'D RATHER NOT USE THE COMPILE FARM

>>59173804
Thinkpad 13 2017 USA launch imminent

I recently replaced my X220 TN screen with the IPS panel. It would be a shame if the old panel went to waste though. Maybe I'm gonna do some DIY stuff with it. Does anyone know which controller I need for the screen?

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Buying an X220 but noticed the battery manufacturer is Sanyo, heard there was a huge recall for these? Safe to buy? Saw that Lenovo offered to replace these for free but I doubt I can do that as it's used

>>59173637
w530 with i7 3720qm should suffice, it supports up to 32gb of ram and the 3720qm is barely any slower than the 6700hq in modern quad core laptops

>>59174614
I haven't used anything but Sanyo batteries since I got my T400 5 years ago. Never experienced any problems.

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You have ZERO (0) reason to not own a W510

>>59174892
Well, what if i told you that ""W510"" you like so much was -73.12$ more expensive per GHz than the T510 you seem to have problems with.

Would you STILL prefer the 510 over the 510?

>>59174892
>implying a 15" laptop doesn't make you look like a sperglord

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>>59175313
T/W510 was the last perfect ThinkPad. T/W520 was good but the screen got too small from then onward

>>59175808
510, 520, and 530 all have the same screens you dingus

>>59175808
Sorry to break it to you but there's no justification for a laptop to be larger than 12".
That's pretty much the size at which you can get a full size keyboard. Some will manage to put a full size
keyboard on an 11". That's even better. Everything larger is retarded and should be replaced by a desktop.

>>59175926
13*

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>scrape off screw sticker
>it flies 5000 miles away

Why the fuck is it so expensive?

>>59175955
Nope. As long as you get a full size keyboard it can't be small enough. I wish they were still doing the butterfly keyboard. That could bring size down to 9" possibly.

>>59175979
Just put a piece of black tape over.

>>59176012
yep, sorry to break it to you, but 13" is actually the largest size you can get. Some will manage to put a full size
keyboard on an 12". That's even better. Everything larger is retarded and should be replaced by a desktop.

Should I buy a x220 or a x230? It's my first thinkpad so I have 0 experience with the 7 row keyboard. Would x220 be good for anime and weebshit games(shmups,melty blood,VNs)?

>>59176042
Actually, you're wrong. See this? This is an X201s. It's 12" but it's 16:10 so it's narrower than a 12" 16:9 laptop.
If you were to crop the vertical space on this machine to make the screen 11" with a 16:9 aspect ratio you'd still have the full size keyboard.
Nobody is doing it but it is possible and if there was a laptop with Thinkpad build quality, an 11" screen and a full size keyboard.

>>59176193
x230 is much better for real usage. The chiclet keyboard really isn't bad at all. I personally like them. Make sure you get an IPS screen

>>59176193
I've been a 7 row advocate until I tried a new 6 row keyboard on my new X230 last week. It's great. Not nearly half as bad as some people want to
make it look like. The build quality is even better. The X220 keyboard gives in quite a lot when you press the volume buttons, the X230 keyboard
doesn't. Also the X230 isn't that much more expensive while its performance is far ahead of the X220.

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>>59176210
Forgot image

>>59176270
Who the hell calls that to be a "full-size keyboard"?

>>59176361
It is. It's the exact same that they use on the larger models. They don't compromise on anything with this compared to their 15" models.

>>59176409
>They don't compromise on anything
Where's the number panel?

>>59176534
A numblock isn't necessarily part of a full size keyboard. On a laptop it's not only unnecessary but also a major drawback in ergonomics. A numpad forces the whole keyboard to be offset. On a laptop it's crucial to have a centered keyboard. You don't see a lot of laptops with numpads for that reason. The ones that have it like the current 15" T series Thinkpads are often criticized for it.

Anyone have the x220 tablet? I might buy one off a mate just to keep track of my websites

>>59176534
A full sized laptop keyboard is defined as follows:

>all alphabet keys a desktop keyboard would have
>numeric top row
>12 function keys on top
>function keys like return, backspace, ctrl and so on present
>size of keycaps somewhere close to desktop sized keyeboards. (you can argue at which point keycaps are large enough to make it count as full sized but it's somewhere around 10mm squared for all alphanumeric keycaps.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/232252301228
Is it worth? I only really need it for word processing

>>59176600
You can't really go wrong with it especially if you're buying it from a friend because that way you can inspect it before you buy and see if there's anything wrong with it.

>>59176534
It's where it belongs: on a desktop keyboard. A number pad does not belong on a laptop. Lenovo have made current 15 inch Thinkpads unuseable with their shit number pad.

price check
t530
Core i7 3720qm
8gb of ram
250gb 850 evo ssd
b156w01 v.4 1080p screen
great condition
battery has less than 70 cycles

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My toaster is on fire.

New thermal paste needed?

I bought a x230 for 200usd seller refurbished did I do good?

>>59176964
how can a dual core run this hot?

>>59176210
>>59176270
And if they were to remove some plastic and fill those bezels out properly, it could fit a 13" display. Wow !

>>59177072
It's beyond me. Maybe because I don't have the A/C going in my house and the temperature outside is like 25C outside right now...

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>>59176714
>A full sized laptop keyboard is defined as follows:

I'm not saying number panel is necessary for a laptop, but I'm saying that calling a keyboard without one a "full-size" is weird, to say the least.
The vast majority of sources imply either a desktop or a desktop-sized keyboard by saying "full-sized".

Or give me an actual source on that because I can't find one.

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1. Would there be any thermal difference between all these processors? The TDP says 35W on all of them, but surely the lower end chips without SMT and lower clocks would run cooler right?

2. Does Ivy Bridge run any cooler than Sandy Bridge?

>>59177089
I have a quad core in my t530 (keep in mind the HSF i have in there isnt even designed for quad cores only dual cores as its the non nvidia version) and under prime load it only hits 93 degrees and its still clocked at 3.3/3.4ghz. Something isn't right

>>59177081
Not with the technology available when that laptop was made. They needed a lot of space in there for the excellent WiFi antennas and metal reinforcement.

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>>59177072
Still hot as balls, and it is sitting on a glass desk, plugged in, only YouTube and a few Chrome tabs, nothing else.

I'm not sure if the fan is broken or what.
>>59177128
TPFanControl has the fan spinning, and I hear it whining under the spin of the fan, but I don't FEEL all that much air being blown out.

I may need to replace the fan.

>>59177144
yeah it sounds to me there is something defective with the cooler. My 45watt 3720qm with that sort of load would be lucky to go past 55 degrees.

>>59177139
These both take up less space than you might think, even back then. The only things taking up a significant amount of space are the hinges and inverter at the bottom, and webcam at the top. The bezels could easily be reduced by a lot towards the sides while keeping wifi antennas and metal reinforcement.

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>>59177161
IT'S SO HOT THAT THE FUCKING TPFANCONTROL IS REFUSING TO GIVE ME DIRECT CONTROL

>>59177128
You can put a quad heatsink into a T530 that was originally a dual, right?

>>59177176
if its that hot with youtube and a few tabs open what would happen if you ran prime?

>>59177185
i'm not sure, people say you can some people say you cant. But the intel only heatsink does fine cooling the 45 watt cpu anyway so im not going to bother.

>>59177176
Is that a switchable graphics model?
Those fuckers run really hot because a faulty driver will make both graphics cards run at the same time and heat up the whole computer.

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>>59177188
I don't understand what just happened...
At all...


>>59177207
Are you fucking kidding me???
How the fuck does someone fuck up a computer that badly?

Which driver should I switch to, then?

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>>59177248
Still hot, but not on fire anymore.

This is fucking weird, guys.
Like, really weird

>>59177248
Just disable one of the cards in the BIOS, it should cool it down.
Also, make sure the fans actually work.
Open it up and clean the dust out.
Also, if the fan assembly is easy to remove, reapply thermal paste.

>>59176193
I would get an X230 over an X220, only reason you would want the X220 is because it's cheaper. The X230 keyboard can be swapped for a classic keyboard in the future if you end up not liking chiclet keys.

>>59177248
wtf.....

>>59177283
I like using Optimus.
Would probably be fine running purely on discrete graphics, though.

The fan seems to spin, I'm just not sure it is doing anything to help.

Not much dust inside last time I took it apart.

Thermal paste ordered, should be here on the 7th. Arctic Silver

>>59177288
I'd also go for an X230 but anyone who's intereste should know that swapping the keyboard for an older one requires modification to the connector and BIOS flash to make everything work properly. This also means that after you've installed a legacy keyboard you'd have to flash the BIOS again to be able to use the new chiclet keyboard.

>>59177434
I actually made a vid on that exact thing, it's actually a pretty easy process
https://youtu.be/sncnKB54c4g

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I got a x220, stock except for an IPS panel. I wanna get to upgrading it and have the money, what's the first big upgrade I should make? Any good articles or reddit threads about upgrades?

pic semi related, my current wallpaper

>>59177470
I just mentioned it because it seems like a lot of people don't know this. There's a lot that can go wrong with that but if you're willing to take the risk of bricking your laptop that's fine

>>59173830
Unless you run VM or game, chances are you will never exceed 2GB of ram. So spend your resources on something more important.

Switching to dGPU helped a bit. But the damned thing is still hot at 75C

GPU is at 83C

It needs new paste. And possibly a new fucking fan assembly.

any t420 user here ? I have some questions.

>>59178019
Then change it. It's like 30 minutes of work max.

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Yea or nay?

>>59173804
>>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.

Question, does this also mean TP is the most *serviceable* when it comes to the amount of time and effort used to take these things apart? Name brand consumer grade laptops do have pretty decent service manuals and fairly obtainable parts, but the reason why I hate working with those is that it's a bitch and a half to get to the guts of the thing - i.e. when you have to replace a keyboard that's gone bad or your trackpad. Tons of tiny ass screws you have to make sure to properly inventory as you tear it down.

Most consumer-grade laptops require you to tear apart almost the entire fucking thing to get to its guts. I've read some enterprise-grade laptops are very easy to take apart and fix compared to their consumer versions (in terms of time spent). Is this true?

>>59177144
the heatsink is probably clogged. You need to take it apart and clean thoroughly.

Have a T420 and thinking about an upgrade, maybe to an X2 something... Any ideas seeing as I'm a student.

>>59178318
specs ? do you like t420 ?

>>59178318
>X2
Do you mean an X2xx? In that case there's a lot of laptops to choose from. I guess you don't want an X220 because it's basically the exact same thing as your T420, only without a dGPU option. You could go for an X230. The 30 series is the newest one I can recomment anyways. With the 40 series they got rid of the dedicated volume buttons and build quality dropped extremely.

>>59178363
>>59178337
I'm looking for better specs and a better display resolution.

Overall I like the T420, its just slightly too big, battery life too low, and the screen resolution not good enough (when coding)

>>59178391
I want to buy one of them. do you recommend it ?

>>59178430
The T420 is pretty good as an entry into Thinkpads, plus I got mine for £120

>>59178391
You could stick to your T420

>too big
yeah you can't really help that

>battery life too low
new batteries don't cost a fortune. you won't get better battery life on an X series

>screen resolution not good enough
I guess you got the 768p screens. there are higher resolution displays for the T420. 1600x900. you could swap it.


If you still want an X series with a higher resolution you'd have to look for the X240 or newer because the 40 series was
the first one to feature higher resolutions than 768p on 12" models. I can't recommend those because of the terrible build
quality though. Also the 40 series lacks trackpoint buttons if that's a priority. The 50 series is slightly better. Or you might
want an X1 Carbon. These are available with 1080p displays, they're thin and light and battery life is pretty solid. The
downside is that the battery can not be easily replaced. You got to open the whole thing up for that.

In conclusion:
>X250 or X260 if you want T series features but in a small and light laptop with a 12" screen.
>X1 Carbon if you want slightly better build quality and an even lighter laptop with a 14" screen.

One last thing: You might want to consider that even 768p means around 120PPI on a 12" screen. That means text will
be pretty small. If you want to go for a higher resolution you would be forced to upscale everything which would result
in the same amount of screen real estate you would get from a higher resolution, the only advantage being better image
quality. Basically a high resolution 12" screen wouldn't really help you displaying more lines of text.

>>59178473
I live in turkey and electronics are very expensive here but i found a t420 around 700 turkish liras (155 pound) which is nice and cheap in here.

>>59178474
Makes sense, I guess I'll invest in an SSD and a new battery.

Is it best to buy a new battery of Aliexpress if there are none on ebay UK?

>>59178474
> upscale
Bullshit. 1080p without scaling is just fine for my 12" 1st gen Helix. It might be an issue on touch-only devices, but thanks Wacom.
As for Helix itself, I do not recommend it. Way too many critical issues that are apparently common for the series, from driver compatibility (windows update and lenovo update tool both push sound driver versions that do not work at all) to build quality so bad internal battery comes off with slight shaking.

>>59178474
I also guess the spec jump from Sandy to Ivy isn't great enough

>>59178509
Thats okay, what are the specs like?

>>59178563
I got an X230 and I can tell you at 768p Windows fonts are pretty small. If the resolution was higher it wouldn't be readable. From a normal working distance.

>>59178563
From my experience >>59178474 is correct.
If you got a desktop with the screen 1m away from you, you pretty much can't go beyond 100ppi without scaling. 24" 1080p equals around
90ppi. That's perfect for readability without UI scaling.
On a laptop you're typically closer to the screen so 120ppi is kinda OK. In that case the small text is a sacrifice you have to make for a
minimum of screen real estate.

>>59178567
they say i5 Intel cpu second gen. 8gb ram ddr3 320 gb hdd ans intel gpu. i will change hdd with ssd if i buy it but what do you think ? Is it garbage or is it ok for beginning ?

I want to replace my x60t screen with one that'll allow me to read clearly outdoors with minimal glare. Right now at full brightness i can hardly see anything at all. I was thinking maybe an E-ink or Pixel Qi screen would be perfect but I can't find anything in a 12.1" display. Even if one did exist, would the installation just be plug n play so to speak? I know a lot of people like to go for the Boe-Hydis screens. How do those perform outdoors in direct sunlight?

>>59178599
>>59178579
>these
Seriously, I'm under the impression that high resoltuion screens in a small form factor are one way of enforcing Windows 10.

Why does my mouse cursor often freeze for 5 seconds after I do a two-finger scroll on the touchpad?

>>59178804
t520 btw, with whatever lenovo mouse suite/driver windows 10 automatically installed

>>59178804
your trackpad should be disabled in the bios and you should be using the trackpoint

Buying an x220, and want to get a WWAN card for it, will this one be good? https://www.sierrawireless.com/products-and-solutions/embedded-solutions/networking-modules/

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Looking at a fairly decent condition T420 for £130.

Specs are i5, 4gb, 320gb, 1600x900. Keyboard and trackpad look barely used. The only issue is the dvd release is broken (pic related).

Is this easy to fix and in general is this a good deal /g/?

What's a good replacement battery for *20 series?

Looking at this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Extended-Notebook-Battery-Replacement-Thinkpad/dp/B01LZB6RX0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1488366951&sr=8-2&keywords=lenovo+t420+battery

Any known reliable sellers out there?

>>59179572
> £130
> 1600x900
I think you may find a non-broken one for the same price if you look at the ebay completed listings.

>>59179790
Been looking for a while, haven't seen many decent ones at this price. Got any links?

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>just ordered an x60s for 70 euros
fuck you americans and your cheap prices

that said, I could do better, I just really want an x60/x60s/x60t to put libreboot on.
and at least I get a 1 year warranty for the hardware, so I can trust that it is not going to be broken or in very rough shape

For those of you who read a lot of technical articles / books on PDF and don't want to print 1000s of pages, what do you recommend?
I was thinking about getting a used X1 Yoga with the OLED screen.
Way overkill for reading tons of PDFs, but at least I can do some light work on it.
Other options? I was thinking about something with an (AM)OLED screen for the long (around 8) hours that I often spend reading on a display.
The newly announced Samsung Galaxy Book 12 is also an option, but it is going to be a tad expensive.
Open to suggestions.

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>>59175926
15" is the minimum required for a usable full-sized keyboard.

>>59177176
My T60p would always do that. I'd set it on manual so I could go to 100% and thinkfan shakes its head.

>>59180188
>numpad
no thanks. this shit has ruined 15" thinkpads.

>T400
>Fan error
I assume i have to open it right?

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Got the chance for a t420 hd+ 8GB RAM i7-2620M 2x2,7 GHz and the Nvidia in it should i go for it? Around 300 Euro

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>>59180188
>>59180630
This. If my T510 ever dies I'll never go beyond a T530

>>59180867
>Google says just blow it
It cant be that easy right?

PC was working fine till this morning.
Got a fan error once since then.

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Just made this.
>'mirin the ThinkLife

>>59178202
>Question, does this also mean TP is the most *serviceable* when it comes to the amount of time and effort used to take these things apart?
Yes, thank God. I think removing a Thinkpad keyboard involves removing two screws on the bottom then pulling it out. I remember back in the day my Dell consumer laptop when I had to do this I had to remove probably 16 screws and several components/part of the frame.

T450s

1080 ips
180gb ssd
8db ddr3

Still has waranty left till 2018-07

650 euro.
Should I ?

>>59181410
forgot cpu

i5-5300u

>>59181410
way too expensive

i'd buy that for $550, so maybe 450 EU

>>59181306
>Those 55 screws HP keyboards
I thought they were a joke till i had to repair one.

>>59181475
Dunno, checked UK ebay. prices vary around 700euro ir even more.

Shit is expensive in EU.

>>59181475
No. In Europe they're more expensive. On average you have to add 15% - 20% to the price of a used ThinkPad.

>>59181513
>>59181514
that fucking sucks

>>59181707
Meh. It's normal. Retail prices for new tech are also a lot higher here.

Just bought into the thinkpad meme with a refurbed X230 and plan to put Linux Mint on it. Feeling moderately optimistic.

>>59181816
advice
>skip linux mint; it's a retarded meme distro. if you love cinnamon so much just install it on Ubuntu
>replace keyboard immediately

and down the line
>buy IPS screen
>buy new 9 cell once you're not happy with battery life anymore

>>59181933
>replace keyboard immediately
90% of people who say this haven't even tried the new chiclet keyboard. I got my X230 last week and seriously, I don't see a single reason to put on the old keyboard. The new layout isn't even that bad and the build quality of the new keyboard is just so much better. This really is a major improvement to the brand.

>>59182002
I'm currently typing on a chiclet keyboard and you're right it is still awesome

but the x220 and x230 have a problem where the keyboard has more flex than on the x200 or x240+ models, so the chiclet really is at a major disadvantage over the old style keyboard

if anything, you should replace it just for experience; taking apart your thinkpad, taking out a part, putting in a new part, will make you smarter and appreciate the thinkpad even more

>>59182034
From my experience with the X220 and X230 the keyboard on the X220 noticeably gives in around 3mm at the volume buttons. The X230 keyboard on the other hand feels rock solid to me. It's certainly on par with the X40 I used to own.

>>59181306
>>59181491
To me it's baffling how consumer grade notebooks can still be successful.

>>59181237
I like it. What software did you use?

>'mirin
>ThinkLife
How is that Fedora collection of your's doing? Got the Black Velvet Dank Meme Special Edition by Rainbow Dash?

>>59182475
Who need Fedora on they're head when have Fedora in computer?

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>>59180989
Please somebody give me confidence to spend money.

>>59182791
Do it, then waste more money on a 850 EVO.

So I got a refurbished x220, which arrived now. It's in perfect condition this son of a bitch, if they said it was new I wouldn't even dare to question it.

The thing is, the SSD it includes seems to be rather old (a Micron realSSD C400). Was this one included with X220s back in the day? Does this shit even support TRIM?

>>59182814
No i do not want to waste money, you did it wrong.

Can anyone recommend me a light/thin portable laptop with a nice screen? I'd use a Windows tablet but I need a keyboard.

>>59182848
X220. :)

>>59182953
I just got one and while everyone says it's a shit screen (the TN one), I find it ok.

>>59182848
X1 Carbon 2015+

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Who /old-thinkpad/ here?

>tfw teachers are using SL510 as computers

Should I permanently disable computrace or do you think there's gonna be a faggot who's going to want that if I sell it?

>>59182830
Smartctl -a /dev/sd?

>>59174892
Because I have a W520.

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What do you guys think?

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>>59185517
can we all just fucking stop with the chiclet style keyboard

it makes no practical sense to have each key be an island and we should've moved aesthetically beyond this look eons ago

can apple decide on another keyboard aesthetic language so all other manufacturers follow suit (as always) and maybe we can return to the practicality of non-chiclet keys?

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>>59185874
They did. Touch surfaces are the future of normie keyboards mate

>>59185874
id like to hear your practical explanation

>>59185908
chiclet keys are more spaced out than standard keys and they also thus waste real estate on spacing.

it's almost universally agreed that the traditional thinkpad keyboards were the most productive and best keyboards on any laptop ever.

why break it just for the aesthetics? on a traditional qwerty that doesn't give up real estate for gaps between the keys, and have tapered key edges, like the old thinkpads, i average 160wpm

on a chiclet, i average 140-150, and this is significant enough of a difference to severely mitigate my work.

there's literally no reason for them; they don't prevent errors simply because they're more spaced out, if anything they increase it as you're forced to strain your hands and fingers to cover larger distances to type out the same things.

>>59186039
This might blow your mind, but the keys didn't get further apart, they just got slightly smaller

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>>59186102
are you serious
if they're smaller
they're further apart

if there are two square islands:
a) 2x2 and 2x2
b) 2x2 and 2x2

and i reduce the size of B to 1x1

then in order for me to move between the islands on B, there is more distance to be covered before i reach the edge of each one

if i reduce the size of B, then there is less surface area to hit, and also a larger space between them.

How do I know if my x200 battery is 9 cell? It's 10.8V. I refuse to believe it's 9 cell because the battery drains so fast just using X server.

>>59185874
>makes no sense
How about for easy cleaning you bacterial puss infection

>>59185899
God those are so unbearably bad. I don't mind the chiclet 2bh.

>>59186102
I'm taking the bait on this one, but if you reduce the size of the keys then you have to move more in order to hit each one. Without the gap you could just put your pointer finger between "A" and the "Caps Lock" and trigger the caps lock comfortably without having to lift your left hand pinky. With chiclet keys, unless you want to rest your pinky literally in the gap between the "A" and the "Caps Lock," which is incredibly unnatural and inefficient, you have to lift your pinky and restrike.

>>59186180
*put your pinky finger, not pointer finger my bad

>>59186145
9cell batteries stick out the back giving you a comfy grip, 6cell doesn't. It's likely your battery is just dead, the X200 is nearly ten years old.

>>59173804

uh, guiz...
Just bought an x250 for $350.

Lenovo Thinkpad X250 laptop

Intel i5-5300M 2.3Ghz Processor
12.1" Screen
8GB RAM
500GB HDD

How did I do? Bargain or meh?

I have a 500GB SSD lying around that will go in it - basic panel - should I spring for a 1080 IPS and install it?

Hey guys, using my x131e with the celeron specs.

I'm trying to get windows 10 the normal route.


let me explain myself
I currently am running a torrented version of win7 with a i think old kmspico cracked key.

now underneath the laptop is a windows 8 sticker.

also this laptop is given the option of uefi or legacy "port"(I'm using port since I don't know the actual term)

i've been told by a friend, that in theory, the win8 key is in the motherboard (idk how it works but ive looked online and is a real thing)


given that, my plan is to uninstall the cracked key on my win7 while booting win8 from usb in microsofts website.

when I get to the thing, it should naturally just find the key and not ask me, right?


I did boot win8 installation from usb drive before, but it asked me for a key anyways. I assume it's because that the fake is still on the computer.


am i wrong? I don't mind the botnet since it's my student laptop, and I heard win10 is better optimized for celeron 1007u than the standard win8.1


Thanks

What are you guys' thoughts on the L430?

>>59186523
>L
run away from those models.

>>59185517

I'm actually a fan of Dell's Latitude line, if I ever have to move beyond my x220, I'll probably settle for an E5450. Lenovos line past the 30 series is really lackluster.

T420 JUST CONFIRMED GOAT ON REDDIT:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/?count=25&after=t3_5wq2ng

hi
do I buy this?
http://outlet.lenovo.com/outlet_us/itemdetails/20FBCTR1WW-R90M8540/445

>>59181933
>>replace keyboard immediately
Really don't do this. Everyone hates on the 6 row for no reason. The backlight is great. you've got more room for the trackpoint, and the switches are more consistent. You are living in a memeland if you're "above" using a 6 row keyboard. The shitty opinions get repeated and pushed too hard in this general.

X220 charger is a kill. RIP thinkpad.

I literally bought a x220 to put hackintosh on it.

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>>59187499

Question:

Why is the enter key on older thinkpads differently colored?

>>59187508
[TRIGGERED]

Also posting to fglt and sqt
How do I modify the trackpoint speed considerably on a thinkpad x220 on Ubuntu/Linux mint?
I've put the mouse speed and sensitivity sliders on the gui setting page to full and it's still not fast enough

>>59187499
This is a completely reasonable and sensible way to get out, and easily one of the cheapest

>>59187499
It's okay, i did the same with my T420.

>>59187473
Where are you senpai? If you're close I've got like 10 chargers.

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Just a reminder.

You guys don't like the new thinkpads because you can't afford them.

>>59187921
find me a new thinkpad that is compatible with the t400 or t420 keyboard and i'll buy it :^)

>>59187921
id rather a new macbook pro complete with its no ports than a thinkpad past the 40 series...

>>59187967
and yet you still buy cheap used laptops because you can't afford the thing you'd rather have

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>>59187921
>>59187981

>>59183474
I have a t61p hooked up to a CRT as a retro gaming test bench. I almost never use it but its a neat setup

>>59182953
>>59183437
Thank you for the recommendations anons. Thinking of picking up a X1 Carbon Gen 3, pretty cheap refurbished.

>>59188389
they are. Gen 4s are going for bretty cheap on the outlet store right now

keep in mind that the gen 3 1080p is not an IPS, in which case looking for an x220/30 might actually be a better use of money

>>59176534

Right here on my E545 which isn't considered a real Thinkpad.

Checkmate /g/

>>59181237
>new thinkpad
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>59187499

how many features actually work? tell the truth.

>>59183474

770ED

Modern internet is suffering

Just bought my first Thinkpad (x220t) without an OS so I'm gonna take this opportunity to try my first Linux distro. Need something that is borderline idiot proof and calibrates to the touch screen well as I'm going to be drawing on it often. Any suggestions, fellers?

>>59189130
xubuntu

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>cleaning ur thinkpad and u see those blue sparkles after u use vinyl conditioner

I like those

>>59187921
I like the new ThinkPads. But all I see in your photo is a shit tier consumer laptop that doesn't even allow you to replace the battery without disassembling the whole thing. If you're talking new ThinkPads, at least get a T, P or X2xx series. These are a bit closer to the original quality. I mean, seriously, this shit you have there has a glossy screen. Also, dat Windows logo. It's terrible.

>>59180989
I bought this with 4GB RAM for 285 half a year ago. Its not a huge bargain, but it is ok. go for it if you like. (hd+ means 1600x900 I suppose)

>>59188591
It's really stylized but yeah, I used a T550 as a reference. But that's OK because when I switched from old (X220 and T400 in my case) to new (X250), I was pleasantly surprised. There things are nowhere as bad as some people seem to think.

If any of you had an X60 or X61 still lying around, what would you do with it? Certainly not throw it away, right?

>>59188651
I'll tell you what doesn't since it's shorter.

-The trackpad works like absolute ass. Worse than on Windows/Linux. It ain't cool, no gestures supported unless you want something that half-works. It's much better to work with it permanently disabled.

-Facetime and Messages, unless I actually take the time to set it up and fuck that, I don't have apple devices sitting around anyways

-The default wifi card, but I replaced it with a cheap dell one that works right away and works with 5GHZ without issues

-Mute mic and the fingerprint sensor doesn't work

-The SD card reader doesn't work


The rest does, just don't expect top performance considering the specs. It works quite smoothly though if you just connect a magic trackpad through bluetooth, but that's apple hardware in action.

what is the most modern thinkpad to go full freetard on?
Libreboot is still state of the art despite all the GNU fuzz?

>>59189268
The thing charges quickly. What need would you have in replacing the battery? It's not that difficult to pull it apart.

>>59189338
Funny how the touchpad works like shit but the trackpoint works perfectly.

>>59189354
i think x200

So I bought one of these memepads and tried this trackpoint thing.

While it works for shit, why the hell is it so jumpy? Moving the cursor with it seems like I'm suddenly using a really slow machine. Stutters like a faggot. However the machine is fine, mouse works fast, trackpad works fast (although shitty not gonna lie). This is like I'm running Windows on a virtual machine or some shit.

>>59189315
I'm actually trying to get an X60/X61/X200 but can't find anything here.

Importing is not an option because the shipping costs make it nonviable and no one fakes the declared value like the Chinese do.

Does anyone know how safe ebays gsp is? I want to buy a refurb thinkpad but i dont live in the us.
Im having doubts about a long shipment and damage during transfer.
Would anyone recommend?

>>59189503
change the sensitivity. In my experienceon windows its too sensitive and on linux its too sluggish (out of the box)

>>59189503
>I'm running Windows
found your error

>>59189561
where is 'here'?
x62 orders are open, ships worldwide

Does anyone know a good fan control program for linux? the auto mode on the ibm-acpi kernel module never spins up the fans

>>59189698
Thinkfan

>>59189698
Also make sure your fan is still good, on my t420 it will sometimes display the fan speed as 65535 rpm, and not spin.

>>59189842
or it could be spinning at exactly the refresh rate of your eyes be careful

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T430 (1600x900 and I have a spare X20 KB) $175 or T440s (probably 1366x768 and will need to upgrade the trackpad) $275, no it doesn't get any cheaper over here. Is it worth it to go for the 40?

I already have an X200s, X220 and an X220T..

>>59189664
A shithole in South America.

I know about the X62 but i'm more interested in a traditional cheap x60/61/200 to keep it as a backup laptop running GNU/Linux. Also since the X62's motherboard alone is like $450 and the shipping is via DHL the price will skyrocket.

>>59177487
RAM.

>>59177487
SSD, then RAM.

>>59178610
Its solid, go for it.

>>59189596
>Damage during transfer
Its a Thinkpad, for Christ's sake. Damage, if anything, will be superficial at worst.

>>59189713
>>59189842
>>59189854
Thanks senpai.
the fan is fine, I can make it spool up if I manual echo the level to /proc/acpi/ibm/fan. Just setting it to auto never worked right.

senpai senpai senpai senpai senpai
I love this

>>59173874
You need a nice powerful desktop and a small laptop with a comfy keyboard to use as a remote terminal. Big ass power user laptops are the worst.

X61s for you.

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>>59174088
>another chinkshit ultrabook with chicklet keys is coming
>this time it's 1.2% faster but has 1.4% less battery life
>calling this a thinkpad
wew

>>59190090
Ummm it has a nipple and a thinkpad logo and everything, what more could you possibly want? Nerd.

>>59176534
See how the keys under 789 have numbers AND letters?

What's that mean, he wondered?

T460 or X1 Carbon?
Assuming same resolution, disk & RAM.

>>59189918
>>59189902 here. Fight me, for I think it should be RAM then SSD. Maybe thats because i use a RAMDisk but still.

>>59189856
I would not get 1366x768 on 14" machine in this day and age. Unless it's virtually for free.

>>59181816
Just use Debian, you'll thank me after never having to install again.

>>59190103
Maybe a non-Ultrabook CPU? These things suck big time and are not worthy of a ThinkPad. With these pieces of shit they have ruined the T and X series more than they did with the chiclet keyboard and the Chinese build quality.

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>>59183474
Hi...

>>59190155
Oh, it's you again. How is your X40 holding up? God, I wish I could get a non touchpad palmrest for my X230

>>59190111
Eh i'd say SSD first because your entire OS and applications load from there, and on GNU/Linux at least you can manage "good enough" with even a miserable 2gb of RAM, maybe 4gb for Windows.

>Maybe thats because i use a RAMDisk
well if he's going to do that of course more RAM would be better.

>>59190181
>GNU/Linux
stop it already RMS. nobody wants you. linus is #ourguy

>>59190181
Good point. Even with 2GB/4GB you can still have swap/page on an SSD.
Im a fool for thinking RAM comes before SSD.

>>59190195
He's covering the bases so no one can interject for a moment.

>>59190155
>4:3
>slim hinges
>super thin bezels around keyboard
>no touchpad
>no cracking sounds when you touch the palmrest

Why did anyone even bother developing the PC further? This is literally the people's computer. It should have become the PC equivalent. They should have stuck with this. Maybe a CPU upgrade every then and now. With a current gen i5 or an optional i7 this would be the perfect computer. Is designing a modern motherboard that fits this thing so hard?

>>59190266
Shit. I meant:
>It should have become the PC equivalent to the VW Beetle or the Ford Model T.

>>59190266
>4:3
>Not 16:10
Kys my man

>>59190155
what hard drive/ssd do you use in your x40?
I just recently got one and put some weird 1.8" KingSpec pata ssd in it. Working so far though.

>>59189862
If you're in Brazil there's a great nacional /tpg/ on 55chan with good recommendations.

>try following the x220 guide for hackintosh
>acknowledge the trackpad is shit
>try the trackpoint and them buttons
>if trackpad is enabled, the left button registers double clicks half of the time
>if trackpad is disabled (through a key) half of the time it doesn't register a click, I have to press hard on the fucking thing for some reason
>if I permanently disable the trackpad on the bios, left button works fine but the middle button doesn't work for scrolling

Man, and I was so excited.

>>59190283
You get more screen space with a 4:3 screen.

A 12" 16:10 screen will roughly have 64"2.
A 12" 4:3 screen will roughly have 69"2.

The larger the screen, the larger the difference. Looking at most modern websites, widescreen is completely unnecessary for web browsing. Most websites are literally a narrow stripe in the middle of the screen. You don't need widescreen for text processing either. As long as the resolution is high enough, that is.

>>59190361
BTW the 2s mean squared. I don't know why 4chan won't display that properly...

>>59190340
Not him but my trackpoint and the three buttons work flawlessly unless i disable the touchpad, then both the touchpad and the trackpoint stops working like if they were linked.

This is on a T420 though.

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>>59190174
It's great, it was basically unused when I got it. I'm super lucky.
>>59190266
Honestly the CPU is fine for internet and shitposting duties, watching video, light development work, etc. I've been using it for a few months and it's comfy as fuck. Battery life is better than ten hours, too.
>>59190295
I also used the Kingspec and it works fine.

X40 truly is the master race computer.

>>59190445
They are, that's the thing. If you lower the trackpad sensitivity, you'll also lower the trackpoint sensitivity. It's a weird ass behavior.

>>59190463
any issues with the KingSpec? I heard that it doesn't support TRIM commands well, and slows down over time.

Does anyone here have the X1 carbon gen4? thinking bout buying it

>>59190660
>I heard that it doesn't support TRIM commands well, and slows down over time.
Works great so far. I'll have to check trim, will post about it later.

Gonna buy a thinkpad, have several questions.

I intend to primarily use it for multimedia and photoshop but learning adobe aftereffects would be a plus. Is i5 with 8gigs of ram enough for this purpose?

My dilemma right now is whether i3 4gb is enough or should I go for i5 with 8 gb (i will get 256 ssd in either case). That is, how big of a leap is going from i3 to i5 (mind you, even this i3 might have 8 gigs of ram).

Can you advise me on some models to look at? How do I check whether bios is locked? What does this do, exactly, prevent me from resetting the unit by taking out its battery? And advice on screen, which model has the best one and is there a good way to check for dead pixels except through simple eye test? Is it possible to test battery life other than waiting for the thing to go from full charge to zero? Good app for checking whether hard drive is fine?

It's a lot of questions, but I'm buying used and just wondering if i3 to i5 is that big of a leap. Any advice is helpful.

>>59190953
Get a proper desktop for much less money and a Thinkpad for secure shitposting with a proper Unix™ or Unix™-like OS.

Multimedia's easily handled by any normie-ass 2006-vintage computer or newer. T60 is a great choice.

Though if I were you and wanted to be a media faggot I'd just buy a Mac and say fuck all this Thinkpad shit.

>>59190154
>not buying the p versions of the 14 inch model
>not enyoing the stability of the new keyboard and the sturdiness of the new models
>treat the thinkpad in a similar manner that a macfag treats a macbook

>>59190953
>multimedia
>phtoshop
>after effects

Basically everything ThinkPads are not intended for. Look somewhere else. ThinkPads are office laptops. The screens, even on the newer models, are good to display text but color accuracy is terrible. I'd only recommend a ThinkPad if you were willing to use an external screen.

Concerning performance: The leap from i3 to i5 is pretty massive. I'd say i5 and 8GB RAM is minimum for Photoshop. After Effects is a different story. An i5 won't be enough for that. Video editing needs at least a quad core i7 (dual core i7 won't do) and 16GB RAM so your only option would be a P series workstation. These are expensive though.

Seriously, a ThinkPad is not for you. Neither is any other laptop besides maybe >$2000 workstations if you want to use it for media production. Get a desktop.

>>59191021
Desktop is not feasible, I move a lot.

>buy a mac

limited budget, why do you think I'm buying used thinkpad?

>2006
>aftereffects

I really have to rethink my words when I write any advice is welcome, huh? You fucking retard.

>>59191068
I've only been doing that shit since you were in elementary school, nigger. After Effects isn't exactly high-performance computing.

>>59191064
Thank you, but I'd be very surprised if i5 isn't flying with photoshop. And being a layman, what exactly is the difference between such thinkpad and regular laptop?

>>59191081
You have to keep in mind that laptop i5 CPUs are all dual core and don't pack as much cache as a desktop i5 would. In addition to that, new ThinkPads use the Ultrabook versions of these CPUs with even lower performance. With an i5 Ultrabook CPU you're really scratching at the minimum. If you go past ~15 layers it's gonna produce some lag.

>the difference between such thinkpad and regular laptop
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that but compared to a consumer laptop, the ThinkPad's key characteristics are:

>superior build quality (though it used to be better 10 years ago)
>the best keyboard currently available (though it also used to be better 10 years ago)
>Trackpoint
>long battery life
>shit screens on almost all models except P series workstations
>business grade security features
>pre installed spyware (meh, I guess most consumer laptops are spying devices too these days)

>>59191068
>limited budget
A laptop that can cope with Photoshop and After Effects WILL cost you more than $1500. A Mac is really a good option in that regard because of the screen. Resolution and color are extremely important for what you want to do. Get a used Macbook from 2014 or 2015. I just checked Ebay prices. A 2015 model costs about 1500€ in Europe.

>>59191200
>>59191155
thanks, i thought thinkpads were cheaper because they get sold in bulk once the businesses replace them with new batch. had no idea it's not the same i5 as regular laptops have.

what pre installed spyware, exactly? screen is not a problem since i'd be using dual monitor setup often.

anyway, feel free to mention some i3 or i5 models... i was aiming at using photoshop but if that's impossible i guess i'd at least be able to hold language learning classes via skype.

>>59190953
If you want some models to look at, the FHD screen offered on the W520, W530 and I think the 15" T equivalents good enough for graphics work. Select models will even have a built in colourimeter. Whether or not the price and size suits you is something else, otherwise you're probably better off looking elsewhere than thinkpads.

>>59191293
If your budget is limited but you desperately want/need a laptop, maybe you should consider a W530.
You have to compromise somewhere. It's bulky and will probably run pretty hot because of the cheap
thermal paste Lenovo uses. With an i7 quad core you'd end up somewhere around 600€.

If you want something cheaper you could get an older T series (T420 or T430) with i5 dual cores that
aren't Ultrabook CPUs.

Another option would be the p variant of a current T series. For example T450p. These are a bit thicker
and heavier than the regular T series models but they come with a proper laptop i5 instead of Ultrabook.
These are more expensive though. We're talking >1000€. I can only refer to European prices but I guess
this might be beyond your budget.

>>59191334
thanks, looking at the used market right now, those are outside of my range (over 500 euro while my budget is 300-400)

>>59191363
Looks like you could be satisfied with a T430 or T530. These are reasonably cheap and the T530 even gives you the option for a 1080p screen. Video editing beyond 720p will be a pain in the ass but Photoshop should run fine.

>>59191388
>this

A T530 might be a good budget option.

>>59191360
those are inside my range and i've seen them mentioned in this thread before. i will look into that, i mean t420, they even seem a bit cheaper.

>>59191388
t530 is right inside my price range, i was primarily looking at dell or hp but i guess lenovo can't be that bad

>>59191427
>T420
Really don't. The screen options are really terrible. I know the screen is not top priority to you but the T420 really has the absolute worst of the worst screens. You basically can't use them outside because they're not even remotely bright enough. The T430 and T530 are closest to your sweet spot.

>>59191477
thanks
i found several interesting models but without ssd so far, will be on a lookout

thoughts on thinkpads with separate graphics, say nvidia 1gb or somesuch?

ok best i can find atm:

i5 3320, 8gb ram, 180gb ssd,
intel hd 4000
t430
14inch screen
bios unlocked

289 euro (price doesn't really matter since i have to buy used and close buy, doesn't mean much if it's cheaper somewhere else)

thoughts?

>>59191681
What do you mean by seperate graphics? dGPU or eGPU?

>>59191796
separate from ram

>>59191477
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-t430

it says here that t420 has better screen

>The 14-inch, 1366 x 768p, 147 lux display isn't very bright, 40 lux short of the 187 thin-and-light category average. This is somewhat disappointing, given that the previous model, the T420, had a much brighter 230-lux screen, and a higher resolution of 1600 x 900. Fortunately, that screen is also available on the T430, a $50 option we highly recommend.

>>59191911
dGPU and eGPU are both seperate from RAM. dGPU is internal while eGPU is external, connect for example via ExpressCard (PCIe)

>Fortunately, that screen is also available on the T430, a $50 option we highly recommend.

>>59191979
>>59191991
Whoops. Forgot the (You)

How do i use the reading light on my T420

>>59192264
You mean the TinkLight? Fn+PgUp
Basically it's the lower left key plus the upper right key so you can find it in the dark

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Can you identify the model, /g/?

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>>59192398
I guess the 700C is closest to this

>>59191200
My t530 does fine in photo shop and after effects with the 3720qm and 16gbs of ram and cost me fuck all.

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>>59192837
Looks about right, I guess? Also correct me if I'm mistaken, but are the vertical bars on the right of the screen for brightness and contrast?

>>59192398
Fuck off weeb.

>>59193176
Yep. Though as far as I know you only get both sliders if it's a DSTN panel. A TFT display will only have the brightness slider. When buying an old Laptop the DSTN panel should be avoided. It displays any form of movement extremely blurry.
Have you ever played a game on a semi-old graphing calculator? That's basically it.

>>59193176
>>59193755
Just noticed it now but there's obviously something wrong with the depiction of that 700C in the anime (anime?) besides it displaying a YouTube like website. The 700 ThinkPads didn't have color DSTN panels so both sliders were only present on models with a greyscale screen.

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I like to spend money frivolously because I am a bad person.
So right now I have an X220 that I don't use. Haven't for a while, honestly. It's a good laptop, but Sandy Bridge is a bear, and a sub-4 hour battery life is the pits. That said, in lieu of it, I'm using a Chromebook running GNU/Linux and a desktop for gaymes that I rarely use except for games, and even then I haven't been playing that many games lately. That said, the Chromebook sometimes struggles to run Youtube's shitty player along with my other tabs, the keyboard layout is shit (and xkeyboard-config doesn't detect the meme layout without the specific package from the Chromebook meme distros), and I'd like to consolidate my devices, so I'm at an impasse. I figured it'd be a little wiser to ask before throwing away money, so here goes.

Firstly, if I get an extended battery and tweak the Thinkpad, is it possible to get at least 6 hours of battery life out of it? If so, is there a good resource for doing so?
Second, I'm debating upgrading some other parts. In order, what would be the best upgrades to do from:
>12GB to 16GB of memory
>An X230 mobo to stick in the X220 frame
>A PE4C for eGPU shenanigans
And finally, whoever has a working eGPU setup in $CURRENT_YEAR, what's the best price/performance GPU that works well given the ExpressCard bottleneck? I have a GTX770 now, but it never liked working with the old (now-broken) PE4L I had. Not sure if it's user error or just the PE4L being a piece of shit, but I figured I'd ask anyway.

>>59190463
>Battery life is better than ten hours, too.
What config and OS? That's insane.

I got a w520 recently and it's been pretty cool. Now it's acting up. It only boots when one hard drive is in. If the 2nd one is in it just gets stuck on the windows logo

>>59194084
Do a Windows recovery with both drives installed. Might be something wrong with the bootloader

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>>59194123
It never loads up any tools

>>59194365
maybe see which drives have boot priority?

>>59194365
>ThinkVantage
What I meant was, boot from a Windows installation medium and start recovery.

>>59194389
>>59194396

I plugged in an old hdd (that has vista) and it boots fine, not the Vista drive.

I think I know what's wrong with the hdd I was using, but I don't know how to fix it. I was installing a game on it, when the drive disappeared. (Due to the default power settings ) so somehow that messed up that drive.

Also I don't have a windows 7 disc offhand. I guess I could find the iso on the wiki right?

Anyone on the fence about buying a t420: buy one

I bought mine for about 300 CAD after tax, refurbished from bestbuy and it got here in 4 days

Excellent condition and performs amazingly. You can get one with an SSD, i7 and 8GB RAM loaded for you for about 420CAD after tax from bestbuy

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>>59175808
What is this guy's channel called again? Sorry for the off-topic question, I've been looking for his channel but I forgot the name.

>>59194801
Lois Rossmann or something

>>59194912
Thank you family

>>59194678
You are paying waayyyy too much for a T420 my friend. You are also paying wayyyy too much money for a T420 in 2017.

*confused black man pic*

>>59193859
it would be easier to sell your x220 buy an x230 and fit the classic keyboard onto it. Also 6 hours + is definately doable with a fresh 9 cell. I get significantly more than 6 hours out of my x230. I get slightly less battery life in ubuntu mate with tlp and powertop than i do in windows tho still over 6 hours however...

How hard is it to go back to lenovo bios if I flash coreboot on my t520?

I love the t420 and x220 but need something better. The 4200m just isn't good enough, and the screens look like cancer. With a pretty big budget, what should i get to replace it? It needs a colourful, 1080p screen out of the box, and good build quality, as well as a decent dgpu. W series is out of the question. I also really like the 20 series keyboard and hate Chiclet, as well as the blue enter key being cool.

I'm curious and might buy one mostly as a collector's item:
What's the most powerful ThinkPad IBM made?

So it turns out that hackintosh ain't that cool on the x220 (and this is considering I use it on my desktop every goddamn day) and I'm just switching to something different to work with because I refuse to carry a desktop trackpad around.

Is every feature on the x220 supported on Linux? I want to have a system that essentially has decent battery life, performance and supports everything (perhaps the fingerprint sensor wouldn't be specifically needed but it'd be a nice addition) without weird shit going on with the touchpad. I don't use the thing, but even when I don't macOS decides to make my trackpoint experience a bit more painful than it needs to be. When I need to plug a usb mouse, that's where I have to stop this shit. I could also install Windows, maybe it isn't that awful with a few tweaks.

>>59195473

T430/230? You won't get the classic keyboard to fit in anything else. What do you need it to do that the 20 series can't? You won't get a decent gpu outside the W/P series, unless you go with the very modern T series Thinkpads.

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Would you bid on this ThinkPad, /g/?
Will you be fine with its previous use?

>>59195572
I feel like I should just get a modern one. Anything 40 series or newer is powerful enough. Which has the best build quality and keyboards?

>>59195568
99% of ThinkPads work 100% on Linux, including the entire 20 series

>>59195602

40 series is okay I guess if you're willing to swap the trackpad with the 50 series one, just realise this was Intels first series of U series(low voltage) cpu's, so they actually perform worse than the 30 series ones unless you get a Quadcore. If you truly want to beat the ivybridge 2 core cpus you need to get at least a 50 series Thinkpad. This is cpu performance of course though, the igpus still get better with each generation. 60 series is still too new so price is still too expensive for a used Thinkpad in which case you might as well go new and get a 70 series.

Honestly if I were to get a 4rth gen or better Laptop, I'd grab somethig from the Dell Latitude line.

>>59195528
Tough to say.
T43p, G40 or G41
>T43p was the last to be made by IBM before the Lenovo acquisition, though during its production, has Lenovo's copyright.
I believe a 2.26GHz Pentium M 780 was the highest offered by the T43p
The original G Series was a sort of successor to the A Series Pentium 4-Mprocessor, but instead went using a desktop processor. This was a weird time because some other manufacturers did the same as I guess Pentium M performance sucked (and PowerPC PowerBooks kicked ass)

The G41 is the successor of the G40, so it should be stronger, right?
Welol, not necessarily. Though it can be outfitted with a better gpu, it has at max a 3.46GHz Pentium 4-M. But the G40 has a desktop Pentium 4 processor, it's max is 3GHz.

All these run hot so I can't really say much about it...

what is the lightest thinkpad???

>>59195830

Probably the 5th Gen x1 Carbon

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Are there any options for a screen upgrade for 2560p/2570p? These little machines are usually specced really good and are cheap, but the screen is garbage and I've heard x220 IPS doesn't fit.
Please enlighten me. I can do some bezel modifications if it's possible at all

What's the most comfortable DE on linux for the use of a trackpoint?

I'm not used to these tiling WMs and all that. Also I'm going to use the thing for light virtualization.

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So I spilled a little coke on my T420 keyboard.
What to do now?
The amount was small it didn't even reach the drainage holes.
I wiped it with paper tissues, and everything works.
Or do I gave to clean it in special way?
Also does whiteboard cleaner help?

>>59196252
xfce is the only DE. accept no alternative

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>>59196396
You can either flush with some water and hope it runs through without fucking anything or remove the keyboard and give it a careful rinse/wipe on the top side

>>59195830

Is there a way to buy a new x230 that isn't refurbished?

>>59197192
What OS do you install on that?

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I can play wow with the t420??

>>59197482
OS/2 Warp
Windows 3.1
Windows 95/98
DOS

>>59197526
Yes.

>>59197599
Thanks you

>>59180867
had fan error on my t410, drilled CAREFULLY the back of the fan until i saw the coil, then lubricated, placed ductape on top, voila!

>>59197594
Where do you get legit versions of these?
MDL?

>>59197710
>Drilled
>Duct tape
Replace that shit with electrical tape ASAP to prevent possible shorts. And then never use duct tape with electronics ever again.

>>59195820
The G41 is still desktop power level, isn't it? Looking at the wiki the CPU options for it have full retard TDPs in the 80W range, despite being labeled as mobile chips.

That said, it is Prescott, so Pentium M still largely shits on it. The Northwood G40 is even worse, reviews considered that model slow when it was new. The desktop processors are more of a marketing gimmick than anything actually useful, mostly thanks to Netburst sucking a pile of dicks. A few years later it would've been a good idea.

im a fucking idiot and stepped on my x200t on accident and now theres a big fucking crack and a black splotch on the screen
if i buy a screen off of ebay, would some random store be able to replace it or is it a real specific process

>>59197775
>would some random store
Do it yourself. If you bought a thinkpad and want it to be serviced by a third party, you made a mistake. Repairs are as easy as a google search and basic tools.

I've never really delved into Thinkpads but I really want one because one of my professors have convinced me to get one.
When are the newer models coming out soon? Kaby Lake and a discrete GPU for CUDA computing on the go

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>>59199515