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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources[*].

Previous thread: >>>>59149573

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or Mac.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What's the alternative for x?
https://alternativeto.net
http://www.linuxalt.com
Search for software by category:
http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

News:
http://phoronix.com
http://www.webupd8.org
https://www.linuxjournal.com
https://lwn.net
Gaming news:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com
https://linuxgameconsortium.com

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/749768
/t/'s GNU/Linux Training Videos: >>>/t/713097

* Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine
(try to use a search engine that respects your privacy such as qwant, searx, ixquick or startpage)
$ man <insert command here>
$ info <insert command here>
$ <insert command here> --help
Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos <anything>

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros)
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

Learn the command line:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

Break out of the botnet:
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

Learn more about Free Software:
https://www.gnu.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl
https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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UbuntuGnome mustard race reporting in.
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Is one of Fedora's servers down from Amazon S3 as well? Can someone test their GNOME3 software update GUI? It's giving me a bunch of errors.
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Victory for liberated software is inevitable!
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Any NixOS users here?

I'm starting work in an office where they only use Windows workstations, so I'm going to need a VM. I'll probably use whatever distro they run on their servers for maximum compatibility, but I've heard great things about NixOS and always wanted to try it, so I might prepare an image to have in the back pocket.

Is it suitable as a work OS, or does it require a lot of fiddling about with configs? I like the idea of declaring the entire system, pressing a button, going for coffee and coming back to a perfectly set up box that just werks, but I'm not sure if that matches reality. Also I like the idea of using the latest software, yet have rollbacks when things don't work out perfectly, but that can be accomplished with snapshots anyway when running in a VM.
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Is gentoo dead?
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>>59170930
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.
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>>59171037
>Source Mage GNU/Linux

Why?
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Can somebody clarify radeon drivers situation for me please

There is so much stuff
amdgpu, amdgpu-pro, fglrx, radeonsi, radv, mesa

Got meself r9 390 and want to play on Linux, what should I do?
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>>59171457
GNU/Linux*
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Thinking about switching from Arch to Void Linux. Any advice? Thoughts?
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>>59171517
Expect less breakage and a better system, but also more people laughing about you.
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If I'm trying to truly capture that ~1990s era feel in computing, what tools, window manager / de (that's not CDE, sadly) would you recommend?

Currently, I have the following:
1) Lynx for web browsing
2) Vi for document editing
3) Classic GIMP
4) Older Open Office version

I only really need some shitty fonts and a good window manager / desktop environment to top it off.
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Fedora
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>>59171517
Void is void of packages.
There is no reason to use an arch derivative, just use arch
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>>59171729
you could try out KDE1, which was patched up and re-released recently
http://www.heliocastro.info/?p=291
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>He needs to spend hours setting up his minimalist arch install when ubuntu can give you the same results in far less time
Well /g/, install ubuntu and get productive. You can still rice it just as much as you can for arch linux l.
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>>59172172
if you already know what you want, then ubuntu doesn't use any less time

i personally found it more of a pain to upgrade ubuntu every 6 months than keeping arch up to date
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>>59172197
Use LTS my good man. If you absolutely need newer versions, use backports.
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>>59172016
What does that look like Windows 95?
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>>59172197
whatever you do, dont use LTS
youll end up stuck with a system you can't upgrade anymore without breaking it
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>>59172276
I've upgraded from 10.04 to 16.04 without issues. What did you do?
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>>59172216
sorry, i like trying out new features of a lot of programs
even the 6 month cycle can be annoying if you read about some nice thing(tm) that you won't see unless you go out of your way, but then things get out of sync and you lose the stability gaurantee

arch has been very stable, far more than people would have you believe, i've been using it now since 2012

>>59172238
kde1 is from 1996, that didn't look out of place back then
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>>59172287
Meant 14.04 rather than 10.04
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Anyone had any issues with cmus? Its not recognising my mp3s for some reason
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>>59171457
you want the AMDGPU stack. it's very good. just look it up in the arch wiki.
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after using pacman -Qkk and seeing a file from a package has been modified, is there any way to see the modification itself or is this just a checksum comparison?
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>>59172296
How do you backup your system?
Do you use an rsync script? Or GUI application?
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>>59172415
>pacman
>>>/r/eddit
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>>59172525
fuck off
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>>59172515
rsync
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>>59172415
you could generate a diff by comparing what's on disk to what's in the package
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>>59172527
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>>59172589
thanks for letting me know you lurk there
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>>59172589
lol, arch kids in a nutshell
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>>59172577
do packages keep unmodified copies somewhere? If not, there's nothing to compare it to
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>>59172603
>not lurking unixporn
what is wrong with you
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>>59172686
I don't feel like keeping up to date with the latest reddit trends, thanks
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>>59172676
there's the package cache (/var/cache/pacman/pkg), where downloaded packages are kept until manually cleared out
even if you did clear it out, you can download them again to make your comparisons
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>>59172589
You have to go back.
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>>59172708
alright, thanks a bunch for the help
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>>59172686
unixporn makes macfagging acceptable, which isn't acceptable
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>>59172711
ladies first
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>(hide the systemd posts, /kind/ is back)
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>>59172766
what's wrong with systemd anyway?
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>>59172854
It's an "init system"
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>using an os that can't even run games
cringe
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>>59172854
It doesn't have a web browser, video player and music player yet
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>>59172854
it's lacking a kernel
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>>59172854
you can't play tetris on it
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>>59172854
it doesn't provide a proper filepicker
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tfw chromium requires systemd
fucking why
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>>59173220
>chromium
uninstall; it's botnet
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>>59173231
I don't have it installed, I was just wondering why it requires an init system
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>>59173238
E E E
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>>59173238
because of botnet
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>>59173254
I don't know this meme
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>>59173220
Just grep'd chromium-58 ebuild, no systemd mention. It does have virtual/udev mention. Blame your distro for not providing eudev/something else to replace systemd udev
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>>59173263
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish
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>>59173153
>>>/v/
Not everyone is a manchild.
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>>59173465
>can't play games
>tell himself he doesn't need it anyway
that's how linux works
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>>59173465
>repeating retarded memes
litterally reddit
>>59173476
there's nothing wrong with playing games and gnu/linux provides a lot of games
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>>59173476
GNU/Linux*
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>>59173476
Linux isn't supposed to play games, it is a kernel. I thought that this was common computer knowledge?

Kernels aren't supposed to play games. That's what an operating system is for.

And yes, it can play games. Look at steam, look at the Ubuntu Software Centre, GNU/Linux has games. Guess what though? Despite the availability of these games, I choose not to play them.

No, some AAA games don't play on GNU/Linux.

If you don't want to use GNU/Linux for this reason, then don't. I don't care. But don't come to the thread dedicated for users who wish to give GNU/Linux a try (or those who need help with GNU/Linux) and shitpost in it.

>>>/v/
Here, discuss video games. It's clear you've come here due to the Ryzen/Intel threads that are banned on >>>/v/
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>>59172852

undefined variable
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how to make bash history not printing timestamps in its file? or can I cange it to another format than unix time?
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>>59173818
what do you have for HISTTIMEFORMAT ?
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>>59173985
its unset, but it shows in the terminal the normal date, but in the file epoch
will try defining the variable
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>>59173985
>>59174026
no changes after setting it to
export HISTTIMEFORMAT='%F %T'

Only the format displayed when running "history" changed
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my SMB share mounts automatically, but if I want to use the terminal in the shares folder it's a pain in the ass. I can't just right click "open terminal here" for some reason. I have to cd to the mount point, the cd to the smb share, then cd into the right folder etc etc it ends up being

cd /run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=192.168.0.2,share=USBcopy/media


Is there a way to streamline this, somehow save it in the terminal so I can type a shortcut and quickly get there or something? it's always mounted to the same point and has the same IP on the network.
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>>59174053
Have you tried setting HISTTIMEFORMAT=""; ? Are newly executed commands stored without timestamp?
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>>59174141
Uhh, alias?
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how long will it be until arch linux no longer supports X11? I haven't found any good desktop environments for wayland yet so I need to use X for now.
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>>59174401
also do nvidia cards still not support wayland?
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holy crap, it even works with mv

>mv filename.{png,jpg}
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>>59173806
Okay I figured it out all I had to do was
set history = 0
Then I set it back to
set history = default#iforgot
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>>59174878
>mv filename.{png,jpg}
i surprised this works for other reasons
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>>59175229
which?
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>>59174401
X will probably be there for longer than you think
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>>59175270
make a png into a jpg
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>>59175295
It's just renaming the extension, not actually changing the filetype (or at least it shouldn't be). Running 'file filename.jpg' should say it's a png
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>https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg1503079.html
>tfw rebuilding modules
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>>59175295
that won't, but this will;
convert picture.{jpg,png}
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>>59171471
>>59173503
>>59174401
*Linux/GNU
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>>59175470
saved
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>>59175508
It is right and proper to mention the principal contribution first. The GNU contribution to the system is not only bigger than Linux and prior to Linux, we actually started the whole activity.

However, if you prefer to call the system “Linux/GNU”, that is a lot better than what people usually do, which is to omit GNU entirely and make it seem that the whole system is Linux.
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does /fglt/ have unix beards?
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>>59175510
fyi, the {1,2,3} thing is expanded by the shell, and will work for any program
% echo test{ing,er}
testing tester
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>>59175567
at some point you are finished configuring some config and go into the bathroom, accidently look into the mirror and there it is, you didnt even expect it, freedom is growing allower your face
high tech - low life
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>>59175687
>standing up
>no pissbottles
found the normie
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Microsoft is sabotaging Linux with bugs
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Red Hat is sabotaging Linux with bugs
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Anonymous is sabotaging /fglt/ with shitposts
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Faggots are sabotaging OP's ass with cocks.
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What is the graphics card with the best linux support? Relatively new graphics card, I should say, for a new ryzen build.
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>>59176102
More importantly: what's the best desktop GPU that works without any blobs?
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>>59176102
Go nvidia if you want the most performance with proprietary drivers. AMD for free drivers with decent performance that's only getting better. Also possible virtualization support on the RX480 to end dualbooting.

>>59176232
Nouveau lost its purpose when Nvidia gave them signed blobs, so you are left with the RX 480. I think it's the fastest card while on free drivers. I don't know if it has blobs.
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>>59176102
I've only had problems with AMD cards regardless if it's the open source or fglrx, don't know how well the new amdgpu drivers perform. Nvidia will be problem if you use nouveau, official drivers occasionally have hiccups but it's nowhere near as bad as fglrx can be.
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Why isn't "less +F" documented?
>works like tail -f
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>>59176375
because with +F you're sending less the key "F", which is well documented:

  F      Scroll  forward,  and  keep  trying to read when the end of file is reached.  Normally this command would be used when already at the end of the file.  It is a way to monitor the tail of a
file which is growing while it is being viewed. (The behavior is similar to the "tail -f" command.)
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>>59176375
but it is?
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>>59176430
>>59176437
sorry for being retarded, thanks
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Regarding tail, it's also cool for printing multiple text files because it clearly separates the files' outputs

tail /path/to/files/*
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>>59176472
ofc, you can also use head
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I just removed infinality and everything looked terrible.
I had to go back to using it. I only had problems with oblogout, and I'm going to stay that way until more things start breaking.

How long until there's a replacement /g/?
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>>59176472
tail -f /var/log/{auth.log,dmesg,syslog} for ex works too
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>>59176551
infinality was and is nothing anyone needs to get proper fonts. just configure your fontconfig, it's just as easy as configuring any other program.
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What's a good distro that will let me never have to use the terminal? (I literally never want to touch it). T. Winfag
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>>59176769
GNU/Linux doesn't behave like Windows, trying to make it so just leads to failure (like Mint). If you want failure, get Mint.
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>>59176769
You will love the terminal after a while. Get something babby friendly like Ubuntu, where you can do the most stuff without touching the terminal, but try to use it and learn.
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>>59171517

>apparently uses Arch
>has no idea what makes up a distribution
>doesn't know how to spend 2 minutes looking it up in his favourite search engine

Kill yourself you pretentious poser.
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>>59172875

Find me where it says that exclusively, idiot.
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>>59173985

geez, no need to yell
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>>59176551

Remove Infinality crap, use a simple font config. Also try obquit as an alternative to oblogout.
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What are some good linux news sites? (preferably with some sort of newsletter or mailinglist)
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>>59177945
reddit
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why aren't you using the UKUI environment?
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>>59178064
You have to go back.
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>>59178068
I just threw up a little.
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Can someone post a nice setup on a floating window manager? I'm interested in trying one
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>>59178135

Look at GNOME, Mate, Xfce, KDE Plasma or anything else screenshots.
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>>59178068
Looks like ass.
Is in Chinese.
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How do i make my i3 bar only appear when I hold the alt key, and have my other alt shortcuts still work?
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I just installed kali
How do i ddos my school internet now?
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>>59178068
That looks more like a toy OS than anything ever shat out of Apple
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>>59178068
>Using a distro approved by a communist party

Jesus, why not just learn Hangul and install Red Star OS?
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>>59178354
>Hangul
>not Chosŏn'gŭl
Off to the prison camps you go.
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>>59178307
ping 192.168.1.1 -i 0
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>>59177716
Of course I already looked it up retard. I came here for the /g/ opinion on it as an addition to what I already found out.
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I am using Xubuntu at work. I got an email with a pdf form I need to print, fill out and hand in. However, neither xpdf nor evince properly display it, instead showing a page telling me to install Acrobat Reader.
I don't want that piece of shit software on my PC. Is there another way other than revealing my power level and asking for a plain pdf with no form data or installing proprietary shit on the PC?
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>rms will die in your lifetime
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>>59178736
No, he will live forever.
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Is there a way to teach zathura epub?
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How can I make Thunar open .sh files on double click?
I tried changing the associated program with .sh extension to either /usr/bin/zsh or /usr/bin/urxvt but nothing happens when I double click the icon.
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>>59178919
What do you mean by "open them"? Execute them?
Open a terminal and use that to navigate to them.
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>>59178940
I know I can just chmod +x file.sh and execute it from the terminal, I want to be able to do the same by double clicking the .sh files in file manager.
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>>59179021
But why?
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>>59178068
>UKUI
>[ueww-key]
>Yucky
well, better naming than xfeces
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>>59179021
Make a .desktop file for each script.

Yes, I know it's retarded, but that's freedumbs for you.
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>>59179325
did you try double clicking? are they executable?
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>>59179392
>stupid fucking post (lol)
is the default set to open them in editor?
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>>59179392
i need this icon, where is if from?
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>>59179415
system says its 'Oranchelo'
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>>59175187
Why not just [code}history | less[/code] and page through it? Although I'm not quite sure what you were asking
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>>59179470
>oh hey whats going on in these posts
instead of using history, wouldn't just be easier to use bash's reverse search function?
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So, I know how to convert a svg to png with imagemagick, but how to convert it to a given size? convert seems to ignore -size and -resize basically just scales the pic.
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>>59179600
Ayy, got it (it needs -density).
>>59179425
Thanks.
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>>59179638
For that one hairy guy who's parsing the 4chan archives 10 years later:
convert -background none -density 1337 text-x-script.svg text-x-script.png

Enjoy.
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How is switching graphics with linux? I have an Intel HD3000 + AMD Radeon laptop. Will I have issues?
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>>59179658
>implying we won't all be using Microsoft (C) Windows (TM) Ultimate Poofessional Home Edition by then
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>>59179658
>tsadfw you're that one guy, but you aren't hairy
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>>59179674
>implying we won't all be using SystemD.(C).Red.Hat.(TM).Ultimate.Home.Edition-CRACKED.by.xXx-D4RK_L0rD.rar by then
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>>59179679
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>>59179699
Did anyone ITT actually try RHEL? How is it?
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Hey Linux friends, I have a question.

How can I move my entire (pirated) movie collection to the cloud and stream it to my desktop? By cloud I mean my DigitalOcean vps. All data stored on the server should be encrypted so I don't get banned or jailed or whatever in case someone finds out

I thought about serving pgp-encrypted files on nginx, and then piping them to mpv :D

Something like curl ... | gpg --decrypt ... | mpv -

Could it work?
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>>59179735

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C-T8Em7SJs
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>>59179735
*GNU/Linux
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>>59179746
Thanks that's very helpful

>>59179747
Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux
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>>59179765
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>>59179765
pls adult DVD.
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>>59179735
Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”
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>>59179765
GNU'd just like to interGNU for a GNUment. What you’re GNUing to as GNU, is in fact, GNU/GNU, or as GNU's recently taken to GNUing it, GNU plus GNU. GNU is not an GNU GNUstem unto itGNU, but rather another GNUree GNU of a fully GNUing GNU GNUstem made GNUful by the GNU GNUlibs, GNU GNUtilties and vital GNU GNUponents GNUing a full GNU OS as GNUed by GNU.

Many GNU GNUers run a GNUified GNUrsion of the GNU GNUstem every GNU, without GNUing it. Through a GNUuliar turn of GNU, the GNUrsion of GNU which is GNUly used today is often called “GNU”, and many of its GNUers are not GNU that it is GNUically the GNU GNUstem, GNUed by the GNU ProjGNU.

There really is a GNU, and these GNUple are GNUing it, but it is GNU a GNU of the GNUstem they use. GNU is the GNU: the GNU in the GNUstem that GNUs the GNU’s GNU to the other GNU that you GNU. The GNU is a GNUtial GNU of an GNU GNUstem, but GNUless by itGNU; GNU can only GNUtion in the GNUtext of a GNUplete GNU GNUstem. GNU is GNUmally used in combiGNUtion with the GNU GNU GNUstem: the whole GNUstem is GNUsically GNU with GNU added, or GNU/GNU. All the so-called “GNU” distribGNUtions are really distribGNUtions of GNU/GNU.
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>>59179746
>>59179747
>>59179775
>>59179781
>>59179789
>>59179809

This is my first time in this general, holy shit this place is autistic af
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>>59179809
>GNUing a full GNU OS as GNUed by GNU
my sides
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>>59179815
Enjoi
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>>59179815
Welcome to classic /g/. Here's your pissbottle.
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>>59179735
That piping could actually work. Is your collection encrypted (if so why)?
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>>59179815
Hello there! You seem to have used the term "open source".
The term "open source" was created by a group of people that did not want to be associated with the free software movement. When I say "free" software (which is one of the alternatives preferable to "open source"). It's not about price; in that case I would say "gratis", or "free as in free beer". It's about "freedom"! This is what the free software movement is fighting for.
So what is "free" software? Free software is any software that guarantees the user the four essential software freedoms:
> 0. Run the program as you wish.
> 1. Study the source code and change it so it does what you wish.
> 2. Redistribute exact copies of the program.
> 3. Distribute your modified version of the program.
Some people decided that they wanted to restrict the user; but being able to study and modify the "open source" code is not enough! This is directly hurting the cause of the free software movement because it takes away the sociological "freedom" aspect of free software and turns it into a technological one.
So for those reasons I ask that in the future you use the terms "free", "free/libre" or, if necessary "FLOSS" (short for "free/libre and open source"), though the latter should still be avoided.
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Making Openbox hide window decorations for full screen windows and using a wide, text based horizontal tint2 config I was able to save some space and give the illusion of a titlebar with built-in notification area and clock.
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>>59179868
>This is my first time in this general, holy shit this place is autistic af
>Hello there! You seem to have used the term "open source".
Martyr yourself
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>>59179884
I just wanted to show him more autism by posting my favorite pasta.
Thank you for further demonstrating the autistic nature of our userbase, much appreciated.
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>>59179868
saved
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>>59179884

>comes to a place expecting in-depth talk about something
>complains when people have specific in-depth talks about something and uses his autism buzzword

Yes, that guy is obnoxious with his copy/pasted texts, but you should still kill yourself.
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>>59179934
are you frustrated?
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>>59179854
They're not encrypted on my desktop, they're just movies. But I thought it would be a good idea to encrypt them if I want to store them on a remote server

Is it possible (or likely) for cloud services like Linode or DO to access my files?
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>>59179868
more
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People who use gnupg:

How do you use your keys across multiple devices? I was considering just copying them to each device, is there a better way?
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>>59178887
bump, please, I just want a simple pdf plus epub viewer
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>>59179897
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>>59172016
Nois.

There's also Trinity Desktop Environment for KDE 3.5 if you're nostalgic for Vista-era computing, gradients and glossy objects.
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>>59179971
well I just export the keyring (or a particular key) If I desperately need it on another device.

I try to avoid doing that though.
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Why should I used mpv instead of vlc?
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>>59180124
why?
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>>59180124
I prefer mpv because I love the efficience of the cli. Basically it doesn't matter what you use, but mpv is the new shit, people are working 24/7 on it and every day it gets new features, fixes or improvements (maybe vlc too, but I don't follow the project).
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>>59180124
Because the VLC logo sucks.
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>>59180124
Lua
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>>59180194
>>59180196
>>59180206
>>59180213
is there a 7 minute lag or something?
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>>59180224
ajust your pj
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>>59180124
because it's simple but powerful

vlc is cluttered af
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>>59179963
There isn't more. But thanks to the fact that that pasta is in the public domain, you can modify, extend and repost it as much as you like! Isn't freedom great?
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mfw making backups, wiping the disk, and reinstalling everything
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>>59180410
Nothing will ever make those embarassing posts you made on forums as a teenager disappear.
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Attention, freedom lovers.

I do not come to this thread often these days but I should let you know something important. It's about the recent security exploits constantly being discovered.

I'm not against Linux. However I do appreciate FOSS more than Linux and *nix. FOSS is the reason why I left the land of windows to Linux. With that said Linux is very convenient and nice.
Problem with Linux and and its SDLC is, Linus is a C purist. I know he is a talented programmer. However C has flaws. It's full of undefined/unspecified behaviors, doesn't prevent data races, has no bounds checking, has no mechanism to prevent dangling pointers and exception handling is practically non-existent. Which is why it is easier to build software with hidden exploits and vulnerabilities in C. Linus is an excellent programmer but he made many mistakes, only because he's a human.

Rust is a fully free and open source modern programming language that addresses this issue very firmly. Rust's built in mechanism like borrow checker, RAII memory management, lifetime etc makes up for almost all of C's safety lackings.

It is harder to write an vulnerable program in Rust unless the developer wants to.

However the fact that Rust improves security is an eye sore to the NSA. I think NSA is making Micros**t and Goo*** to hire anti-shills to campaign against Rust's adoption. Reminder to ignore anti-Rust shills. Anti-Rust shills have a predictable way of defending C:
>You are too retarded for C
Linus made silly mistakes that lead to Linux's TCP/IP vulnerability, OpenSSH has had heartbleed and Grub2's infamous 29 backspace bypass vulnerability was all silly mistakes that everyone makes. Not saying Rust is a panacea to all exploits but it's a major step forward.
>Rust is too hard
While it is true in some sense but Rust is only 2 y/o. As more authors write books on it, it will become easy to learn
>You won't make mistakes in visual studio
This is a nice way of shilling MSVSC aka telemetry compiler.
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>>59170257
Join us now and share the software!
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>>59180559
Noone cares.
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>>59180559
GNU/Linux*
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>>59180603
GNU is not a C purist project though
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>>59180595
>dash
now this is what i'd call a fast system
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>>59180559
kernel with RUST will be bloated and slow.
C much simpler, works faster, easy to implement, useful for embedded.
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>>59180632
oh it's you again
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>>59180632
Do you like microkernels?
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>>59180620
Faster, but not so fast as C, check out screenfetch-c on github.
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>>59180595
post output of vrms
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>>59180559
this is a whole new level of cancer
(and I thought systemd/nsa was the top of the mountain)
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>>59180643
>Do you like microkernels?
Don't use it, but I think it's good thing.
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>>59180658
https://www.redox-os.org/
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>>59180645
The Free Software Foundation lists vrms among packages that don't respect its Free System Distribution Guidelines: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines#vrms

tl;dr, it's buggy and lists free software as nonfree
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>>59180645
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>>59180705
>>>>Chrome
What are you doing?
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>>59180664
>Drivers run in Userspace
Not sure it's a good choice.
>>59180711
Can't compile chromium or firefox with gcc6.3.
BTW, I hate xorg, will use wayland system in dual-boot with midori browser.
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>>59180775
What about IceCat?
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>tfw got comfortable with GNU/Linux and now the sense of wonder and discovery that I had when first learning about it is gone
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>>59180603
GNUfag
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>>59180813
Does it supports wayland? I know only few browsers which works fine, midory, epiphany etc.(webkit2)
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>>59180821
There you go: http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/ and post progress.
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>>59180933
Looser here, I'm proud to say that I made all levels except the last one. Holy crap, after 2 hours I just searx'd it.
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>>59180933
lmao

$ cat bandit25
uNG9O58gUE7snukf3bvZ0rxhtnjzSGzG


I played through it the entire thing a few months ago. It was fun, the last few ones were mean.
But I was talking more about the sense of "holy shit my computer can do all this stuff I never thought possible and this UI looks so different than anything I had before and it all works differently".
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>>59180976
How about starting developing software? Get some programs from suckless and improve them. That's a good start.
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>>59181003
Free Software*
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>>59181003
I'm a bad programmer. Or rather, I'm bad at making efficient programs. All I could do is make the existing code more readable.
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>>59181022
That already shows enough autism to end up as good programmer. Keep on it.
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>>59181056
Well you're right, it's better than spending my evenings blankly staring at 4chan threads waiting for (You)s to come in. Need to brush up on my C knowledge I guess, I've been using Octave and Python for too long now.
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I'm running linux mint with cinnamon on a shitty pc
What is the most lightweight (noob friendly) DE that I could switch to and gain some speed?
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>>59181527
Xubuntu
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>>59181527
You should get rid of GNU/Linux Mint completly. If not Debian, get at least something like Xubuntu.
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>>59181527
install i3wm and run screenfetch -D arch
????
PROFIT
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>>59181543
>>59181560
What's wrong with mint?
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>>59181569
>screenfetch -D arch
If you niggers really need to fake your screenfetches, at least use a FSF distro like Parabola, Trisquel or Guix and boost some market share.
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>>59181581
last time I checked, it's been literally blacklisting vital upgrades like linux, systemd, xord, dbus, etc, dunno if they changed it already
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>>59181569
>>59181595
>using screenfetch
>not neofetch
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>>59181641
neofetch disqualified itself by not supporting lo/g/os
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>tfw probably the only person ITT actually running Trisquel
Get on my level fags.
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What is the precise name for this feature?
>clicking a button/pressing a shortcut, and get a visual of all open windows so you can switch between them
>pic related

I don't even know what to google, all I find is tiling window managers, and that's not it.
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>>59181700
My wifi doesn't allow me to be free, so I just installed Debian. Am I a bad person?
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>>59181738
less botnet is better than more botnet

>>59181728
expose
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>>59178068
because it looks like the botnet os
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does /fglt/ trust noobslab?
they have a large ppa with useful stuff
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>>59179963
Hallo! Du hast offenbar den Begriff "offene Software" benutzt.
Dieser Begriff wurde von einer Gruppe von leuten geprägt, die nichts mit der Bewegung für freie Software zu tun haben wollten. Was ist freie Software? Freie Software ist jede Software, die dem Benutzer die vier grundlegenden Freiheiten der Software einräumt:
> 0. Das Programm so auszuführen wie du es wünschst.
> 1. Den Quellcode des Programms zu studieren und ihn zu verändern so dass das Programm tut was du willst.
> 2. Exakte Kopien des Programms zu verbreiten.
> 3. Eine modifizierte Version des Programms zu verbreiten.
Einige Leute beschlossen, dass sie die Rechte des Benutzers beschneiden wollen; aber den "offenen" Quelltext nur studieren und modifizieren zu dürfen ist nicht genug! Diese Einschränkung behindert auf direkte Art und Weise die Umsetzung der Ziele der Bewegung für freie Software, weil es den soziologischen Aspekt der SoftwareFREIHEIT ignoriert und die Problematik in eine technologische uminterpretiert.
Aus diesen Gründen bitte ich dich, in Zukunft die Begriffe "frei" oder, wenn notwendig, "FLOSS" (kurz für Englisch: "free/libre and open source software") zu benutzen, obwohl der letztere Begriff trotzdem vermieden werden sollte.
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>>59181884
Gespeichert.
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I'm using vim and everytime I type ">>>" (without the quotes) I'd like it to be replaced by "->".

Is this possible?
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>>59181928
inoremap >>> ->
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>>59181956
thx bby
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>>59181928
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Using_abbreviations
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>>59181915
Denk dran, "leute" in "Leute" zu ändern.
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>>59181967
Gefixt.
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>>59181990
Neiß.
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>>59181829
>technology
>trusting anyone
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>>59181928
iabbrev >>> ->
this solution >>59181956
is bongos
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>>59182114
>is bongos
why?
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>>59182362
inoremap is limited by usual keybind timeouts and doesnt allow typos, iabbrev isn't limited to time and allows typos; at the time you press space, even after half an hour, the text is getting replaced

also stop dotfagging
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i fucking hate debian, trying to install it on chinkpad blaze it, both version with free drivers and non-free drivers, and both cant install wireless card drivers
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>>59182431
>inoremap is limited by usual keybind timeouts and doesnt allow typos, iabbrev isn't limited to time and allows typos; at the time you press space, even after half an hour, the text is getting replaced

Thanks a ton, did not know about that.

>also stop dotfagging

.
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>>59182493
>hateposting
why???
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What's the ugliest part of your distro?
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>>59182550
because frustration, sorry
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>playing that shitty bandit game for the first time
>get ot level 6
>stuck as fuck
>turns out you need ot have the webpage open

what a waste of time

>>59182613
The parts of it NOT covered with pictures of cute anime girls
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>>59181641
>using screenfetch
>not screenfetch-c
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>>59179815
>af
You have to go back.
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I'm trying to install Wine on Ubuntu.
I followed online tutorials step by step, but I just cannot see the "Wine" program. I've got "Configure Wine" and "Winetricks", but I feel like I don't have the program itself.
Am I just completely retarded or am I doing something wrong without knowing?
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>>59170905
It's a cluster fuck of symlinks but guixsd and nixos are brilliant. I loved learning nix but I have to say nothing outside of their repos is ever even remotely simple. You really need to understand their packaging to use it, whereas for rpm and deb distributions you can get away with being ignorant of their packaging mechanisms.
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I've heard Wendell talk about GPU virtualization on kernel 4.10. I don't know anything about how the enterprise uses it. Is there a chance any consumer GPU could use this feature as an alternative to full GPU passthrough?
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>>59171517
I don't mind systemd, but libressl would be a nice addition to distro defaults however I don't see a point in moving to another distro for that.

Void is stable because lolnopackages.
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>>59179021

Thunar can execute files which have the executable permission set. It just asks you before running it if you want to run it.
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>>59183456
You don't need to see actual wine. Just run the .exe you need and it should work fine.
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>>59179729

You get Fedora plus you can email or phone them and they'll fix things for you.
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>>59179658

>For that one hairy guy who's parsing the 4chan archives 10 years later:

>tfw someone years down the road will read one of your solutions to their problem and you will never know they did but they will tacitly appreciate it with a feeling of fulfilment
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>>59180620

Amazingly 0,004 seconds faster on average for most tasks. Gotta love it!
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>>59181700
>Kernel Linux 4.4.0-64-generic
Oh wow it's fucking nothing
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>>59179868
>>59179963

Zdravo! Izgleda da ste koristili pojam "otvoreni kod".
Pojam "otvoreni kod" je kovan od grupe ljudi koji nisu htijeli biti povezani sa pokretom slobodnog softvera. Kad ja kažem "slobodan" softver (što je jedna od alternativa za "otvoreni kod") nije u vezi cijene; u tom slučaju bi rekli "besplatan", ili "slobodan kao besplatno pivo". Radi se o slobodi! To je stvar za koju se bori pokret slobodnog softvera.
Šta je onda slobodni softver? Slobodni softver je bilo koji softver koji garantuje korisniku četiri esencijalne slobode:
> 0. Pokreni program kako želite.
> 1. Izuči izvorni kod i izmjeni ga prema svojim potrebama.
> 2. Redistribuiraj iste kopije programa
> 3. Distribuiraj svoju modificiranu kopiju programa.
Neki ljudi su se odlučili da žele uskratiti korisnika; ali sposobnost da izučavate izvorni "otvoreni kod" nije dovoljno! Ovo direktno šteti povodu pokreta slobodnog softvera jer uklanja aspekt društvene "slobode" i pretvara ga u tehničku.
Zbog tih razloga od Vas tražim da u u bućnosti koristite izraze "slobodan", "slobodan/libre" ili ako je potrebno "FLOSS" (kratko za eng. "free/libre and open source"), iako posljednji bi se trebao izbjegavati.
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I'm asking here because this is more like the Sysadmin thread than just /fglt/

So I have this file server at work running windows server 2012 r2 that I need to backup, previously it was done with an external drive but the old one ran out of space so a new one was purchased. I ran the inbuilt windows backup utility, the backup starts fine but after a fair while I get the error "Not enough physical disks to complete the requested operation" anyone have clue what this actually means as there's enough space on the drive and a fair amount of free space on the machine itself. I ran the backup again using the old drive and selected only a few locations to backup and again one of those failed with the same error.

Google doesn't give me any useful insight into this error or ways to go about solving it.
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>>59184200
>this is more like the Sysadmin thread
Wasn't there a network general?

Also,
>using Windows backup utility
>using Windows server at all
What are you doing, forehead?
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>>59184200
> windows server 2012 r2
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>>59184200
>using windows server for anything besides active directory
you fucked up.
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>>59183508
Consider G2 instance types that AWS offers as well as "elastic" GPU offerings although that is more offloaded processing than passthrough.
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>>59182635
>>turns out you need ot have the webpage open
What? That's not required for any of the bandit levels.
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>>59183508
I'm not sure if I'm understanding it correctly but doesn't this mean we probably don't have to use separate GPUs for guests/hosts in the near future?

This seems to be a pretty big deal if it were so but nobody seems to talk about it.
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>>59184159
Kuuuuuurwa :D
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how to fix wine and multimonitors?

can only use it when i disable one monitor, otherwise it is graphical glitches galore
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>>59183947
4.4 is LTS kernel
The last numbers are the patch level.
Shit's up to date.
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>>59185012
generic.

Trisquel uses Linux-Libre.
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>>59184713
>v



>polish
nod really
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I ended up buying apple shit I regret it so much. can't even install Linux on the 27 inch imac. Such bullshit. I just wanted the big screen and thought I might like macOS but I really don't.
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>>59185092
Just wait. Since applel hardware has so little possible configurations someone sooner or later will figure out and write a guide 4u.

What exactly is the problem?
gpu?
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>>59170257
is using gnu as administrator a security risk or is it ok as long as I don't run programs as root? or should I just create a regular-user account?
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>>59185063
Shit I am daft.
Even learned Polish for 2 years, you'd think I'd recognize it.
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On Gentoo should I add firefox to my keywords and just use the latest and greatest? (currently 51)
Or should I just stick with the old and busted default version? (currently 45.7)

I read that as of version 46 it uses gtk3, whereas earlier versions use gtk2, so I've been waiting for it to upgrade but gentoo sure is taking its sweet ass time to upgrade the default. Is it because they don't want to force gtk3 on people or something?
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>>59185092
Bare metal? Omg i hate people like you so much
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>>59185148
look for "w".
no other slavic language uses it.

>Even learned Polish for 2 years
fucking lmao
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>>59185208
To be fair, that was in primary school 15 years ago.
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>>59185215
>polish in primary school
wut.
where on earth do they use tortures like that.

I had no idea Polish was taught outside of Poland and universities.
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>>59185242
Eastern Germany, it was an optional thing.
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>>59179470
Because I have no clue what I'm really doing and piping commands seems sort of intimidating when I don't know what most of the commands really do yet. I just found a set history command in a root file and thought it might work.
>>59179498
I'm not using bash, I'm using csh
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I'm using libvirt/KVM to run a Windows VM. The VM part works fine, but the Spice/VNC viewer is limited in resolution. The VM is in 1080p, while I believe the viewer is locked at 1024 x 768. Tried every display option and none of them work. Downloaded the QXL package from AUR but that didn't seem to help either.
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>>59185259
Noice, tell me more.
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>>59185294

>doesn't know what most commands do yet
>but apparently requires a "non standard" obscure shell

Pathetic poser.
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>>59185307
Not much to tell, we learned some basics like introducing ourselves, giving directions and stuff. Everyone had a Polish pen pal who was learning German in our partner town and like 4 times a year we either went there or they came to Germany. We chatted a bit, looked at the towns, did some hiking and exchanged small gifts.
It was pretty fun but when I graduated from primary school I had to learn French instead and stopped learning Polish and subsequently forgot everything about it except pronunciation (so I can read stuff aloud without understanding it) and counting.
I tried to get back into it a while ago but didn't stick with it.
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>>59185133
Use the least privileges you require at all times. It's fine to use root, in fact you need to at times, but don't do it all the time or you are asking for it.
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>>59185354
>I tried to get back into it a while ago but didn't stick with it.
No fucking wonder, pretty much useless.

Russian is a much more solid choice, since you get access to entire post-soviet internet.
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>>59185401
Which is why I signed up for Russian lessons next semester.
Still, I like Polish. Poland is pretty nice, it's around the corner and they don't like people speaking Russian.
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>>59170257
how do I make a folder on an external drive read-write accessible to all users or even a specific user?
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>>59185425
chmod, chown
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>>59185319
see zsh users as well
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>>59184480
>>59184490
>>59184604

Wasn't my choice, shit was already set up before I got there.
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>>59185435
done chmod 0777 read the man page for chown would something like chown user /dir/
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Why when i type su all the colors go away and the text is just white. I like the colors
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>>59180424
Why are people so autistic about saving everything they see online
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>>59185548
Because you're logged in as a different user whose .bashrc doesn't have the color settings.
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>>59185489
chown -R faggot /faggydirectoryhere


should work
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>>59185447

My favourite anecdote is about when someone posted here seeking help about his shell. Apparently none of the options he added to the bashrc file were being picked up. He posted a screenshot of his terminal emulator and he was using zsh.
>>
new thread when
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>>59185319
>choose a default shell that came with the system because it has no internet connection
What do you think you're doing in this thread that requires posing I don't think anyones going to be hiring you for your l33t skills.
For your information the plan is to have multiple laptops with some different os/shells for different purposes. When you have a old ass laptop with hardware that is considered dated it's a great platform for figuring this stuff out and configuring stuff I'm not sure is going to work instead of getting an error on a more useful PC and having to dick around with fixing it.
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how can I make sudo regonize my set up aliases?
I'm scared everytime when I run sudo rm something because it doesn't regonize the -v flag so I have no ouput. Creepy.
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>>59185706
link your regular user's .bash_aliases file to the /root one
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>>59185706

Have you tried looking online for a solution? I just did and there are hundreds.
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>>59185819
why not posting, why being a faggot
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-> >>59185953
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>>59185485
Chances are it's treating symlinks as actual files/directories, using up more space then needed. Is the backup drive using FAT32?
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>>59177730
That is from the systemd slideshow from one of their meetings a few months ago.An init system does not require any of that shit in it,its supposed to be an init system,not a web browser,or dns cache
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>>59186584
Freshly formatted to NTFS.
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>>59187000
Have you tried these?
https://www.partitionwizard.com/partitionmagic/backup-not-enough-space.html
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/6d5904b8-aed6-420a-ae6f-3d90e1b9c1b6/windows-server-backup-there-is-not-enough-space-on-the-disk?forum=windowsbackup
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/18c33a73-5719-499a-866c-af124c05e671/a-windows-complete-pc-restore-always-fails?forum=itprovistasetup
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>>59187177

It doesn't say not enough space though, just "not enough physical disks" which just confuses me.
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>>59187295
What about these?
http://techgenix.com/first-look-windows-server-2012-r2-storage-part3/
http://windowsitpro.com/windows-server/solve-storage-space-direct-error-related-eligible-disks
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/7bf23161-d104-4fa5-befb-383998ea7edf/windows-server-2012-r2-rtm-there-are-not-enough-physical-disks-of-each-media-type-to-support-the?forum=winserverfiles
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