/hpg/ - Headphone General

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dt 880 600 vs hd 598

also is the size of the ear cup of the 880s sufficient to encompass the entire ear? i like the hd 598s because of the oval shape

>>59017571
Give 598 a try. Cheaper yet sound great. Yeah, oval shape is what I prefer as well because I sometimes wear glasses (mostly contacts though) and round cups bend my frames like crazy so I can't use them.

>>59017571
DT880 600 ohm need an amp, HD598 don't, thus the Sennheiser are better.

>>59017604
I own a fresh 598 at the moment and I'm enjoying them especially comfortwise but was thinking of returning them in favor of the 880s which cost about 70 more canadian dollars which isn't a big deal to me.

>>59017631
I do have an amp already.

>>59017571
The HD598se and the HD600 are the two peaks of value/money sennheiser has.

I have HD598 and love them; besides sounding really good, they're the most comfortable pair I've ever worn.

Note that they do sound better with an amp, although any amp will do (eg: a motherboard with that function, or a fulla2).

https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-598-special-edition/with/schiit/fulla-2

I recently got a HyperX Cloud II because my old one went to shit all of a sudden and I needed one straight away to play a tournament (it was the only decent one in the store), should I keep it longer or is there a better alternative in the same price range?

>>59017657
>I own a fresh 598 at the moment and I'm enjoying them especially comfortwise but was thinking of returning them in favor of the 880s which cost about 70 more canadian dollars which isn't a big deal to me.

HD598 are very comfortable, but I do not know about the DT880. Since it seems sidegrade-ish I'd just save for something that's actually a category above, like the HD600.

>>59017689
Probably worth keeping as your closed set.

For use at home, for music, an open set would be much, much better.

>>59017657
Are you sure 880 will sound better? Heh, from my testing, they didn't exactly fit my taste. But maybe your ears are different.

>>59017691
>sidegrade
I thought the dt 880's were competing against the hd 600's?

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Kind of new to the headphone market. What do you think of these?

>>59017671
>598se
wrong

>>59017871
They're the best if you need a headphone that
>is closed
>is full size
>is neutral
>is foldable
>is well built
>has a removable cable
>looks good
>costs less than $100

>>59017942
AIUI hd598se is just amazon-exclusive version that's black and comes with an extra cable.

It should be the same otherwise. Is it not?

>>59018032
hd558 is cheaper and a better headphone

>>59018248
Are those MDR-V6/7506? How does the sound change with the velour pads?

SMSL M6 goes for $135 and online people seem to compare it to the Schiit stack which goes for $300. Anyone have experience with the M6? Looking for a dac/amp for my HD650s.

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>>59018391

minimally if you aren't autistic

completely ruins them if you are

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>>59017448

>>59018391
It's really not as much of a change as other headphones since they are treble cans to begin with.
These are the only cans I can keep on for 6+ hours, while wearing glasses, and not have a problem

>>59018073
Cheaper sure, but better?

Unless you're specifically into bass, that is.

>>59018495
Fuck... the 4th walling there.

>>59017448
There's a qt where i live that uses hd 598 outside in public.
Do you guys think she knows that I can hear everything she listens to? Maybe she's autistic

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>>59018495
Why can't I have been born a cute anime girl who likes headphones? Is it divine punishment or just the merciless random nature of the universe?

>>59017871
don't believe the neutral sound signature meme on these. They are accentuated in the bass and the mids are recessed. In a post-Beats world, any headphone with less than a retarded level of bass boost is "neutral", I guess. Anyway, their sound is very enjoyable with excellent clarity. Build quality is good, too. Good 'phones, for sure.

>>59018021
How's the sound isolation? I don't want people knowing what I listen to.

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>>59018495
>ugly person is still ugly with headphones on
news at 11

>>59017871
i bought these just now.... going to test them in half an hour or so after im done with lunch

>>59018604
They don't bleed sound to the point of others hearing what you listen to, unless you play it at deafening levels.

The isolation (and comfort) can be improved with better earpads, at the expense of a bit of sound quality.

>>59017448
What you guys think of campfire audio? I am going to blow my entire tax refund on some seriously expensive iems.

>>59018604
What your weeb-metal and country playlist must be hidden?

>>59018692

Which model are you looking at? Shooting for the the Andromedas or Vegas?

I've got the Lyra II (and a pair of B-stock Jupiters on the way). Easily my favorite IEMs that I've ever used.

There's some people here on /hpg/ that hate Campfire and "boutique-y startups" because they can't prove that they're amazing or terrible by measurements alone. My recommendation would be to get an idea or what type of sound signature/qualities that you prefer, then bounce around on google reading reviews for the various models that fit within those parameters. While they all have great separation and imaging, they are all tuned very different from each other. Their flagships, the Andromeda and Vega, are completely different beasts. CA even started tagging their products on their page to help you find which ones suit you.

>>59017448
i bought a 668b and it is amazing.

takes some time to get used to but the price is unbeatable.

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>>59018976
They're great. Swap out the pads and it's god

>>59017871
Got some last week, like em a lot

>>59018791
Yes but sometimes I listen to japanese ASMR and Nazi music

>>59018917
The Andromeda is actually the one I have my eye on at the moment because the tags are exactly what I am looking for. But, I am going to take a look at the Lyra 2 on your recommendation and some others before I buy anything.

I just wish since I am putting down a lot of money on these there was an easy way to audition them.

Are there (real) leather replacement pads for hd 598?

>>59019190

Lyra II would NOT be a good match if Andromeda looks like your jam. For that very reason, I went with the Jupiter over the Andromeda because the Jupiter has better low-end presence and response (and I like my bass north of neutral).

I do feel your lament about not being able to audition, though. I feel like I would love the Andromeda, but they may be too bright/analytical for my taste. Knowing that, I can't take that kind of plunge on them but I still REALLY want to try them. On that same token, I think I'd love the Vega but were I to buy them, they'd be to replace my Lyra II which I still have no issues with. I mostly took the plunge on the Jupiter so I can see what a BA unit is like.

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>>59018692
>expensive iems
nice meme

>>59019003
I did!

it was a bitch to do though but I just wanked it hard and it worked.

>>59019339
That's nice, poorfag.

>>59019339
.
>Stop liking what I don't like!
>Don't spend money on things that I don't think are worth it!

Seriously, why do you give a shit what anyone else spends their money on? Why waste your time posting graphs and charts that people will just ignore? Poorfags gonna poorfag, moneyfags gonna spend money.

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>>59019370

>>59019393
Don't be angry just because you can't afford anything over $10.

>>59018692
>campfire audio
Stopped by at their booth at the recent Canjam.
Ken Ball came across as conversationally awkward, not we talked much.
As is common, his entire line of moving coil and balanced armature designs are bass boosted, some much more than others.
Andromeda has the really low, frequency dependent |Z|, increasing with frequency.

Ken still has that history of being a cable vendor. I remember hearing about the 10 foot kielbasa of a cable he would lug around to meets.
He wasn't pushing the cables so much this time now that he has his own line of in-ears. The braided cables that are attached by default were okay, I guess.

>>59018692
>I am going to blow my entire tax refund on some seriously expensive iems.
Just don't. You're free to burn your money the way you prefer, but investing in expensive audio stuff is plain retarded. And when we talk about IEM, over $200 you're already into stupidly expensive ground.

>>59019459

>>59019392

>>59019441

Who else did you visit at CanJam (NY, I presume)? What were the standout products/lines to you?

Although I doubt that you paid them much mind, did you stop by Echobox and try their new flagship, The Nomad? If you did, any thoughts?

>>59019470
He asked our opinion on stupidly expensive IEM, and we gave them our opinion on stupidly expensive IEM.

If he wants to spend that much, he's free to do so, but for that amount of money he'd be able to buy some custom IEM, which give some real added value to the buyer, unlike some fancy ass IEM.

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Are the standard headphone cables you connect to iPods and laptops digital?

Probably a stupid question but I'm buying an analog to digital converter and its important to me I can just stick my headphones in one end the the rest if the cables in the other.

>>59019591

>our opinion
your opinion

>he'd be able to buy some custom IEM, which give some real added value

Potential better fit and isolation at the cost of needing to get them re-shelled if he ever decides to sell them. Also, initial fitting can take several tries. I would argue that a UIEM is a better value overall, and you can get custom-fit tips (like Snugs or Westone's molded tips) for them if you want a custom fit.

But then again, that's just MY opinion.

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Could use help picking out a new pair. Currently using Astro-A40s from nearly a decade ago. Have no idea about sound quality, just looking for something very comfortable that sounds decent. Wire coming out of the left can is a plus.

>Budget
$200 or less, but preferably $125-150 or less
>Location
USA
>Source
Used solely with my computer
>Type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
I use them just in my apartment, so I don't think it matters. Closed might be nice to block out some noise, but I doubt it matters much.
>Comfort level
The highest possible, I wore the Astros for 8+ hours a day sometimes
>Sound signature
No experience to know
>Past headphones
Only the A40s

The ATH-M40/50 looks nice, but again, no baseline on what constitutes "good".

>>59018692
Lackluster, more or less bassy in-ears with bulky and obtrusive housings offered for a high price. Flavor of the month(or year) products which do absolutely nothing remarkable.

>>59019657
When you don't *need* closed, go open. It does matter: Closed is a huge compromise to obtain isolation.

With that budget, you can go for the tried HD598. The HD598se gets awesome sales lately.

>>59019657
Philips SHP9500. If you want them to be an headset, add a V-Moda BoomPro.

>>59019657
>>59019851

SHP9500 with a mic cable is nice. They go on sale all the time. Yesterday, they were $55 @newegg. They hit that price about once a month or so.

Does this thread seriously need to be in the catalog at all times? Surely there are hundreds of these in the archive. How many times can you ask about the same 50 headphones. jesus christ.

>>59019657
It looks like your priority is comfortable. In this case the HD598 is a pretty solid choice, having comfortable as hell fit and relax sound signature.

There are 2 version of it, one closed and one open, so it's up to you to choose which one to get. Never tried the closed version myself though, so yeah

>>59019985
thanks for the pasta

>>59019956
>>59019657

just checked, they're $58 right now - still a great price.

>>59018659
I saw a few youtube reviews in which they said the m40x are uncomfortable, and one guy suggested to buy some $50 pads, so could you please report on the comfort? Thanks.

>>59019985

But we enjoy arguing about mid-fi gear endlessly! You would kill our only source of joy in this cold, cruel world?

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So I've been using really shitty $5 earphones for the longest time, and now I wanna get a good pair that won't break after a couple of months.

>Budget
Preferably $200 or less, but I can spend a bit more if needed (Not going over $300 though).
>Location
Canada. Our dollar is kind of shit at the moment btw.
>Source
My computer and my phone.
>Type of headphone
IEMs.
>Comfort
As comfy as possible.
>Past headphones
Like I said, I'm used to dollar store headphones so anything would be a hell of a lot better than the pair I have now.

Pic unrelated

>>59020033

Sound preference?

With none given, I will say Soundmagic e80 or whatever Etymotic units fit within your budget. Neutral and not lacking in any particular area, and any of them would be an improvement over what you have.

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>>59019834
I didn't realize there was a significant difference. I assume the ATH-M40/50 would sound worse in exchange for being closed, then?

>>59019956
>>59020011
>>59020013
Thanks for all the responses. Two questions:
1) Is there any significant difference between the 598 and the 598se beyond color? They both seem to be about $150 on Amazon.
2) What's the quality differential between the SHP9500 and the above? I don't mind shelling out the extra $100, since I plan to wear these as long as I wore the A40s, but it seems a significant jump to be both recommended.

>>59019538
>Who else did you visit at CanJam
Didn't have time to visit as many vendors as I wanted to. Being unexpectedly ill will do that to you. Might have had some things to discuss with Audio Precision otherwise.

The last thing that happened was Jude taking pictures of the Sony guys over my head as I unsuccessfully tried to get their new overweight and oversized "portable" player to read the contents of my microSD. Apparently it only reads the files if they're in a folder labeled as "Music".

>Echobox
Unfortunately, didn't visit.

>standout products/lines
Liked the Empire Ears Spartan Adel, don't recall which module. It wasn't the adjustable one.
Mrspeakers Aeon was nice.

>>59020081
>Sound preference?

I don't know a lot about that stuff to make an informed decision, so I skipped it. Sorry I didn't disclose that.

>>59019639
Question bump.

Can I expect actual better sound with an m40x vs. a QC 35? Someone save me before I buy the m40x meme to play music from my phone

I don't like muddied shit for sound, not boomy bass either

>>59020137

Cool. Sorry that you were feeling under the weather, but thanks for the impressions! Was the Sony player one of the NW-WMXX models? If that's the case, it's laughable that it still has to draw content from the same file structure that the fucking PSP did.

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I love everything about these hadphones except the bass, especially bellow 100Hz. I was wondering if there's something that sounds almost the same but has a snappier and louder bass bellow that region or should I just use an EQ?

Budget 300€
Open or closed

>>59020300
X2

>>59019834
You get an extra cable with the se version.

Also, the pads are somewhat more dense.

>>59020111
>dem trips
Closed headphones strictly speaking they sound "worse" than open headphones, but not in the way you might think: closed headphones give you isolation from the outside, and isolate the outside from the sound they're reproducing, but that isolation also removes that spatial-feel you have when hearing something coming from a speaker, thus feeling less "natural" and more "inside your head". It's not easy to explain.

1) No, the special edition is just a 598 that doesn't look like an old Volvo's interiors
2) Long story short the Philips are engineered (earcups can swivel on more axis, non proprietary removable cable, etc) and built better (better materials, sturdier, etc); sound-wise they're different, both good, but some say the SHP9500 is the best open headphone in the under-$100 price range.

>>59020347
Isolation also introduces echo from the pads (which otherwise just damp rather than isolate, but do it echolessly). This translates into additional harmonic distortion.

Seems like Takstar Pro 80's/ISK2010 are clearly meant to rip off the Beyerdynamic DT 770/880 series, how do they stack up?

Never liked many V-shaped cans I've tried, but maybe an open set would change that opinion.
May pick up the ISK 2010 to try out out some open V shaped sound rather than going all in on the DT880 for X2 first.

>>59020137
>Mrspeakers Aeon was nice.
How was the comfort and build quality?

>>59020300
If you've got an external amp there's no reason not to EQ.

>>59020347
And it's a quick $30 to make the SHP's an awesome gaym0r headset.

>>59020396
>ISK 2010
I will probably pick these up just for the hell of it, I have no open headphones anyway.

>>59020323
Sounds nothing the HD650 in the treble

>>59020517
Same here anon, although I recommend the SHP's for entry into the open world.

>>59018440
pls respond

>Budget
$130 tops.
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer, xbox, ps4
>Type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
not enough knowlegde to know that stuff i just want good sound.
>Past headphone
some skullcandy earbuds. the apple earbuds, some samsung earbuds.

>>59018440
>Looking for a dac/amp for my HD650s.
Fulla 2 is more than enough

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just discovered pic related on sale at crutchfield.

wtf, /hpg/?

>>59020682
xpt100/hm5

>>59020859
50 cent's bargain bin headphones. They're all on clearance so he can pay his alimony.

>>59020859
if i saw someone over the age of 14 wearing these i would punch them in the face

>>59020703
Mixed reviews on that one. =/

>>59021001
From where? Leddit?

Not sure I've ever seen someone disparage the Fulla 2.

Is upgrading from schiit stack to multibit dac and tube amp worth it?

>>59021020
If you want to pay more for worse sound quality, maybe?

>is it worth it
Ask a proper question next time.

>>59021036
multibit dacs are way better than sigmadelta

>>59021051
Off to head-fi with you

>>59021051
It's delta-sigma and no they are not, quite the opposite.

>>59021051
> dacs sound different in the year 2000+17
topkekerino my friend

>>59020300
EQ.
>>59021051
kek'd

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>>59017448
Best budget headphones coming through.

>>59021166
From the graphs the bass looks very weak on these. True?

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>>59021166
I came here to laugh at you.

>>59021176
Quite true.

>>59020229
I believe it was the WM1Z.
They handed me a solid block of copper, a milled unibody copper case, and another gold plated version of the case.

Some other stuff:
-I don't know what I was expecting with the Audeze iSines, I don't why I bothered...I'd say I was disappointed, but I dislike practically all their products.
-Audio Technica reps were friendly. Much more so than the Onkyo fellows who didn't seem to want to be there. Didn't bring much new in terms of products.
-1More reps seemed out of place at this audio show, more CES than audiophile. The product sound was bass and more bass, if you didn't already know.


>>59020402
I don't think Dan has had any problem making his products look decently put together. Didn't notice any issue here.
It's a bit lighter than the closed Ether, doesn't seem so significant while wearing it. Comfort wasn't a problem on my head. Pads are taller than they are wide, as the cup shape might suggest. Decently roomy, not like most portable oriented tiny closed backs.

>>59021176
I wouldn't say very weak.

They're certainly not a bassy headphone, but it's not like it's nonexistent.

The bass is plenty sufficient for vidya and movies.

>>59020015
they're pretty comfortable desu, though i have a big head so i had to extend it all the way.

>>59021176
Sub-bass is rolled off, but it still has enough when it needs to. These are just not bassy headphones, if you're looking for that.

>>59017448
Just got myself a superlux HD669.
Recommend me good music to test him.

>>59021287
DARE by Gorillaz

Sorry for my shit taste, if that's the case

>>59021217

Heh, that sounds like the DAPs alright. As far as the iSines go, it just seems like a dumb "because we can" gimmick. Hands-on might change my mind, but I have little interest in finding out for myself. Thanks again for all the impressions!

>>59021192
>>59021221
>>59021273
How does the bass compare to HD650s?

>>59019818
Really? Are all of their products bassy? Because I am not a fan of too much bass. I am one of those weirdos who prefer treble over bass.

>>59020153
Well, what's your three favorite genres of music? Is anything you listen to mostly?

>>59019656
>Potential better fit and isolation
These parts are somewhat overrated on custom molds. The isolation is usually worse, never fit issues.

>>59020347
>that spatial-feel
That "spatial-feel" isn't something that open backed headphones reproduce, not the K1000 or the Stax headphones. The out of the head sound is dependent on the delayed correlation cues that are subject to different gain by angle, something very attenuated in level by headphones.

>>59020395
>This translates into additional harmonic distortion.
The result is phase interference, a linear phenomenon. No harmonic distortion necessarily involved.
>Isolation also introduces echo from the pads
>which otherwise just damp rather than isolate
Reverberation would go back to the acoustic impedance mismatch at the earpad-air boundary, isolation need not be involved.

>>59020191
No, those cables transfer analog data.

do the 668's actually have harsh treble in the tippy top end as reviews say or is that a meme?

>>59021997
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SuperluxHD668B.pdf

>>59017448

Hi all,

I have a pair of Yamaha NX-50 speakers:
Manual link:
https://static.bhphotovideo.com/lit_files/253402.pdf

It has a headphone jack on the front. I'm not too clued up about the internals of speaker design. But will this headphone jack be amplified by the speakers built in amp?

My friend is giving me some DT990 250OHM headphones and I wanted to run them without an amp for a while and wondered if they would be alright using the headphone jack on my speakers.

Thanks buds

>>59021509

The Orion, Nova and Andromeda are never described as bassy or dark. Go ahead, find a review stating such and prove me wrong.

>>59022037
what pads should i get to reduce the treble while keeping the bass?

>>59022457
EQ.

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>>59022206
>Yamaha NX-50 speakers
>Power: 2 x 7 watts (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 10% THD)
>10% THD
>10%

Hoe Lee Fuck, that's bad. And it's not even full range. It's a 1KHz test tone at a measly 7watts.

Unknown if it's the internal amp ran through resistors to the headphone jack or just a cheapie op-amp that powers phones. Either way, I wouldn't expect high fidelity.

>>59022693
Thank you brembo

Regardless of specs, they sound okay for basic desktop speakers but thank you for the insight

>>59022693
> 10% THD

Welcome to the world of... speakers. And that's ignoring distortion caused by the room itself.

That's why we use earphones.

Are there any reviews of the new takstar products? I love my pro-80s but the cable is getting raggedy. Unfortunately they discontinued the pro80s/2050s and I have no idea if the new ones meet up to the quality of their for-bearers

>>59022835
>That's why we use earphones.
Speak for yourself.

>THD
What a useless spec.

>>59022693
Those are cost effective "computer speakers" and for them 7 W per channel is a lot, their maximum rated power handling capacity.

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>$2300
lol
LOL
L O L

>>59023072
> "high resolution headphones"
> just increase the treble to hear deafening levels

For what purpose?

>>59023123
Researches have shown that audiophools associate the predominance of higher frequencies with the "clarity", and thus the "quality" of the sound.

>>59023196
That sub bass looks amazing though- If only the hd650s had that kind of bass

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are these, dare i say it, the best headphones of all time?

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>>59023237
ummm... no? these look better and probably sound better than anything here

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some qt headphone penguin girls this season in kemono friends
the gentoo one is a qt too

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>>59023357

>>59023237
how do those compare to the hd800s

>>59023501
They don't have bloated lower mids and recessed upper mids.

Do all IEM have the shitty filters just glued to them ? I'm talking about the little mesh that protects from earwax going inside and (I guess) makes the sound clearer
It doesn't matter how often I clean my ears, wax still clogs up on the IEMs and pretty much every time I clean it, the mesh just comes off, I'm afraid it will eventually just drop into my ear and stay there

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>>59023237
>of all time
The Sony MDR V6/7506 is a product that has been on the market since a very long time without any kind of updating or redisgn, and still keeps being widely appreciated nowadays, and that proves how timeless this product is. They're not the only headphones with such long succesful history behind, pic related are another example. Fact is that headphones are not a monolitic category, and as any product they respond to certain needs rather than others; that said, it's safe to say that within their own category they're amongst the best, and have been for a long, long time, and probably will still be in the future.

tl;dr In their own right, yes.

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>>59023723
>that design

>>59023631

The Finder X1 and upcoming Nomad N1 have swappable passive filters that just screw off.

>>59023723
Always wanted to give PortaPros a try, but alas, I have long hair and they look like they'd catch on every loose strand.

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Need an ID on these cans right now.

>>59024089
Beats by Dr. Cockroach

>>59023237
Isn't that, like, closed?

How about no?

>>59024089
These look like Sony MDR-1As.

http://www.sony.ca/en/electronics/headband-headphones/mdr-1a-headphones

Have fun, anon.

>>59024190
just a reminder normal people see open headphoens as incredibly retarded

>>59024383
Normies people think beats and bose are good brands with affordable, quality products.

It's a pain, but saving them from their misery is what this thread is about. The alternative is putting them down like rabid dogs.

ITT: ilkless fanboys

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>>59024286
Thanks, those do seem right on the mark.

But why do they have to be shitty and cost many a dollar as well? Now I have a need to add it to my collection just because my idolwife anzu wore them at one point. I don't know if they even belong to her.

>>59024815
I'd try and figure it out for you but... fuck work.

Hatarakanai!!!

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Okay boys, HD 598 vs MDR-1A. Does anyone actually own the 1a? It doesn't seem like a popular headphone around here and just some comments about it would be appreciated.

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>>59025038
Sony MDR-1A:

>>59025038
>>59025131
Sennheiser HD 598:

All on you anon, but the HD 598s seem better balanced.

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>>59025139
Forgot pic

>>59024778
You say ilkless-I say Zeos

You say nwavguy-I say Jude

You say Todd Welti-I say Marvey

You say Sean Olive-i say shut the **** up

You say F. Alton Everest-i ****ing punch you in the face

92% of teenagers have turned to solid state amps and dacs.If you are part of the 8% that still listen to tube amps,copy and paste this message to another 5 threads. DON'T LET THE SPIRIT OF SUBJECTIVISM DIE

>>59025038
I have tried the mdr-1a and they have bloaty bass.
China man here describes it pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWlHA56HcS4

But don't think that it is a bad feature, after listening to a while I can describe them as the perfect headphones for zoning out. I guess you could describe the bass as warm and smooth. Word of warning though the cables are short.

>>59025172
>92% of teenagers have turned to solid state amps and dacs.

What's the alternative to solid state dacs?

>>59025131
Signature seems colored AF. What it doesn't show is how the comfort is wearing these for an extended amount of time. HD598 is known to be pretty good.

>>59021509
>Are all of their products bassy?
To a varying degree.

>>59025038
>MDR-1A
There are multiple versions of the MDR-1A. 1ABT, 1DAC, 1A Limited edition, which I think have different response.
1A response is decently even in the higher frequencies.
Unlike old Sony gear, new Sony headphones tend to be bass heavy. This is no exception.
>HD598
Why do people keep picking this one over the HD 518/558?
Boosted upper bass/lower mid, like most open backed moving coil stuff. Bass has a much more notable rolloff than 1A.

>>59025311
>Why do people keep picking this one
That's just me, because I just bought them and not 100% satisfied.

>>59025311
>Why do people keep picking this one over the HD 518/558?

Because top reviews google can find agree that HD598 is the most overall refined of the three.

Hearing the difference now isn’t the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is ‘lossy’. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA – it’s about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don’t want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.

>>59025258
From what i've read, they're both pretty comfy. Take your pic, anon.

>>59025425
Is this a copypasta?

https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1045403-do-mp3s-degrade-in-quality-over-time/

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>>59025464

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wat buy for hd 558

>>59025621
If you're still under warranty Senn will send you a new pair.
They did for my HD 7 DJ

What competes with the HD 600 but has only 1 wire sticking out of it?

>>59025659
Are you autistic?

>>59025664
Yes

>>59025659
DT 880

>>59025346
>I just bought them and not 100% satisfied
Not satisfied in what way? Please clarify that.

>>59025659
K612 is probably the nearest fit as far as signature is concerned.

>>59025940
k612 are cheap as hell. do they really compete with the hd 600?

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>>59024778

I had to use google to find out that this was some goon on reddit. Hard to fanboy for someone you've never heard of.

Also,
>/hpg/
>all a single entity of one opinion

>>59025242
I'm pretty sure there are some tube dacs

>>59026052
O_O

Link!

>>59026003
Just because it's cheap doesn't mean it's garbage.

>>59026091
I don't care if they're not garbage, I care if they directly compete with the hd 600s in terms of sound quality. I don't need more mid-fi headphones.

>>59026082
https://www.amazon.com/HIFIMAN-EF2C-USB-DAC-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B0188XZ31Q/
I remember hearing that the tubes on this one is used for the dac part, and not the amp part. You can also get the names of a few just by googling tube dac. They're usually on the inside though.

>>59026019
The faggots who kept on posting about Harman 'research' earlier in the thread are probably poorfags who only read his posts and nwav.

>>59026003
AKG's best, neutral sounding headphone. It fills the same role as the K601 before it: the K601 was the reference, the K701 is something else.

It does have that drawback of the hardwired cable. At very least, under no (sane) circumstance would I ever pick the K701 over this one. K702 does have the cable replacement, but it still turns out to have too many dips and peaks in its mid and treble response.
I might have replaced my old HD 600 with it. My HD600 still worked and the K612 is less sensitive, so it was redundant. Peaks and dips get rearranged and it's overall "brighter", so if you find the HD 600 perfect sounding, this might have some issues in transition.

You could call it a "value headphone" but, because it is insensitive, additional amplification is more likely needed to be satisfactory.

>>59017871
Bought its little brother m20x yesterday (which is similar except for the removable cable, foldability and different frequencies) as my 1st pair of full-sized headphones.
I'm not disappointed. The sound is good, isolation is decent.
Only negative point is the cable is fucking 10 feet long and they start hurting my ears after 2 hours. I guess I have to break them in

>The Price of Sony headphones
I better be able to hear the drummer's fart and the fiber of time and space with these fuckers because jesus fucking christ.

>>59026537
>sony headphones ever

>>59026537
Sony headphones are pretty coloured, but at least they have a high frequency range, r-right anon?

So the nuforce uDac-3 are up on massdrop for $60.
Anyone have any experience with it?

>>59026841
It seems like the fiio q1 would be a better buy. It seems to have an extremely low power output and the knob is questionable for a portable amp. 190 mW @ 32 ohms compared to the nuforce's 80 mW x2 @ 16 ohms

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>>59017448
using open headphones in public

>>59027025
What about the fulla2?

>>59027085
The knob looks like it might be a little weird for portable use, and I've heard some people say there are issues using the dac part of it with their phone, but it would be better than both of the others. It would make for a pretty good desktop amp too.

>>59017448
>tfw bought $150 headphones w/ removable cable
>tfw still using cheap generic chinese 6ft cable

Are there any long cables that are still good quality? I'd like to walk around my room with them on

>>59027149
I've heard good things about the cables vmoda makes, they're a bit expensive though.

>>59026537
What model are you looking at, exactly? lol

>>59026551
>>59026738

>7506
>V6
>CD900ST

>>59027155
The ones that everyone shills are only like 4ft

>>59027065
>Not listening to your speakers in public

>>59027157
Sorry anon, I meant modern Sony headphones

>>59027188
Oh, then you're very much right. They aren't that expensive, but even non XB phones these days claimed to be flat sound easily colored one way or another lol

>>59027166
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/cable/32655506530.html
I have this one and I love it aside from the really intrusive microphonics. The largest size is ~6ft. I don't have experience with any other cables.

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>>59026537
>>59026551
>>59026738
>>59027188
Herd u talkin shit

>>59027065
>>59027173
I seldom, but still see people wearing the HD650 and HD800 outside just on an iPhone

>>59027253
>Wearing HD800s in public

Huh.

Few questions.

My motherboard has a Realtek ALC1150. I think the sound I get from it is alright, but would I really gain anything from an external DAC?

Also:

>Budget:
$400 and under
>Location
USA
>Source
PC, Reaktek ALC1150, no amp
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Not sure, people are noisy as fuck in my apartment and I don't know if I can get by with open.
>Comfort level
Excellent
>Sound signature
Flat
>Past headphones
-Shure SRH840, had these for about 5-6 years now and they've been through a headband replacement since the pleather got flaky and the hinge cracked. Love these besides build quality and weight.
-V-Moda XS

I really enjoy my HD439s been my daily driver for about 4 years now.
Very comfy to wear for long periods of time.

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>>59026738
>high frequency range
Sony's measurement of the MDR-Z7.
The compensation curve is already applied to the measurement.

>>59027308
>>59027065
They make a useful substitute for earmuffs. Situational awareness can be useful.
But not when commuting.

>>59027418
But an HD800? Better watch out for Tyrone then.

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which is the better overall sounding headphone based off these graphs

FA-003 (CD-880) and it's clones
http://en.goldenears.net/15167
or
Philips 9500
http://en.goldenears.net/31990

207th for a900x

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>>59018021
>is well built
Just look at the comment section in amazon.

>>59027520
9500 desu

>>59027520
Always go open, anon.

What replacement pads are worth getting for a Sony MDR-V6? Or is it worth buying a pair of MDR-7506s instead?

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>>59023830
>he doesn't appreciate masterful 80s aesthetic

>>59027762
That's cause they buy the foldable version, that's the only weak point.

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Opinions about Sony MDR7506 Professional Large Diaphragm Headphone?

>>59028187
Too much treble

is this a good purchase or a scam?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones?referer=G34BVF

>>59028218
Its just the bass is a bit low than usual.

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Philips Fidelio X2 or ATH-M40x? Or other how have more bass.

>>59028285
Where will you be wearing them?

>>59028187
X2 has the comfort and the bass

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Lossless Internet Radio: https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac

Currently playing videogame music. If you don't have superior Stax headphones, you're not allowed to listen. Thank you.

>>59028302
On FiiO k1, but i can buy another more strong if need, all i want is that "punch" how bass have.

>>59028354
I said where, not what is powering them. Where will you be wearing them.

>>59028404
In home with x220.

>>59028425
X2's then.

About open headphones, how much sound leakage are we talking about? Will people be able to listen to me watching porn?

>>59028465
Yes, they will. Lots of sound will leak out, trust me, nobody knows sound leakage like me. It leaks more sound than any other design, actually.

>>59028465
Your roommate will definitely hear your cuckold porn. Maybe your neighbors too if it's quiet enough.

>>59017448
I've tried Bose QC 35 and Plantronics BackBeat Pro 2. The Bose headphones have the better noise cancelling by far. Is there any other bluetooth headpdhones with active noise cancelling that might be competitive with Bose QC35?

>>59027343
How are the XS?
I hear they isolate poorly for portable closed cans.

>>59028816
They're kind of lame in terms of isolation, I would say about half as good as my 840s. I got them mainly for portability and build though, and they don't disappoint there.

>>59028894
That's what I feared. Shame, I was eyeing them.

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>>59024778
wut

i hate velour

t. sensitive oily skin

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r8 my setup no b8 m8 b str8

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> Absolutely love the 6dB bass boost switch on my Fiio Q1
> Try to recreate this FR graph on other devices through software EQ
> Never get quite the perfect sound
Why is this? is hardware EQing better than using software?

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>>59029534
Looks good but from my experience all those audiophine daps (including fiio) are so terrible to use and the sound quality in most cases is the same/worse to smartphones that I dont even bother with them anymore (the last decent one I've used was cowon pleune p)

My current setup is pic related and htc m8 with neutron for parametric eq and spotify

>>59029767
I use my X3 mostly for the convenience of having a separate device to take care of audio. With this I can take my phone out and use it without having a cable dangling around.
I guess wireless would be another solution but I'm not sold on that idea yet.

>>59029658
Just gotta keep playing with slopes and centre frequencies making sure you aren't causing any clipping

>>59029534
Are the MA750s worth it?

>>59029931
I have very limited experience with IEMs but I'd say they're definitely worth it, at least for me.
The sound is amazingly clear. Nice bass without being too bloated and the highs are there without sacrificing mids. Very balanced with a tad of a bass boost.
For $100 I think you can't go wrong. Only downside is no detachable cable but from what I've read RHAs warranty is great. Just make sure you buy from an AD to use it.

>>59029658
Post your EQ.

My 330hd broke and I will most likely not fix them so is there anything better around this price or I should just get another pair?

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>>59030179
>buy snapheisers
>they snap
>ask if you should buy another pair

>>59030219
I'm aware that superflux is chink tier quality as I had 681evo but I also "modify" them since they are fucking tiny and that adds a lot to it. So is there anything better around this price?

>>59030240
>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub (embed)

>>59030275
Are you retarded? At such a low price they are jack of all trades and its pointless to write all of that. If you don't know any just don't post at all.

>>59029658
>is hardware EQing better than using software?
Hardware EQ is worse in just about every way. Not necessarily by a meaningful amount for most presets such as your simple low shelf there but ultimately limited by the hardware components used. This means added noise and distortion and more importantly much less freedom with the filter types and amount.

You can create that plot with a parametric equalizer using a single filter.

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>just ordered the dt 880 600o's for 230 cad

please tell me i did good

>>59030240
have a look at 662 evo

>>59030585
why do I recognize this image

Just read these mini reviews

http://en.audiofanzine.com/studio-headphone/sennheiser/hd-650/editorial/reviews/really-hd.html

Are the HD650s that bad?

>>59030585
Yeah, 880s are always a solid choice.

>>59030594
>have a look at 662 evo
Why them exactly?

Why don't I ever see any qt girls with good headphones? Why the FUCK is it all men? Don't women enjoy listening with their ears or what?

Guys what pads for the M40x?

Regular or angled? Pleather or sheepskin?

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FULL SIZED
CLOSED
GAYMING & MEDIA
MORE BASS
NO BIG TREBLE
SOUNDSTAGE
UNDER 100 BUCKS
I'M LISTENING.

>>59031538
> bass without treble

I dunno man. The usual recommendations are usually V shaped like the m40x, dr770s,

>>59031538
>closed
>soundstage
Pick one

>>59031554
The HD650s are open and their soundstage is nothing to brag about

>Budget
300€

>Location
Europe

>Source
E10K

>Type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Either

>Comfort level
Sound over comfort

>Sound signature
Impactul bass, no V shaped, tamed/neutral treble and neutral mids

>Past headphones
DT990s. Hear deafening treble.

>>59031554
>M40x
Yeah I'm thinking bout em.
>dr770s
Over budget.
>>59031554
I meant best soundstage I can get in closed.

>>59031578
>>59031578
m50(x)

>>59031637
>>59031637
m50(x)

>>59031538
Creative aurvana live is closed, full sized, and has a lot of bass from what I've heard. No clue about the treble or soundstage though.

>>59031578
NAD VISO HP50
Or just EQ your DT 990.

>>59027143
> Portable.

It's small so it's pocket-able. It however doesn't have a battery, so it isn't for pocket use.

>I've heard some people say there are issues using the dac part of it with their phone,

It has a separate usb just for power, should phone not be able to power it. Personally, I just use it as amp only with the phone, via line-in jack. That's because I play deresute/llsif, and latency with/without dac is different. At home I also use the headphone jack, so I don't want to have to change latency settings all the time.

>>59027343
If they are in the same room, closed. Otherwise, open.

If open, suggestion is fulla2 + hd598se or hd600.

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I think I'm going to go with the MDR xd-100

Hama uRage Vibra
Audiance A2 Premium
Sennheiser HD201
Canyon CNR-HP02N
AKG K518 DJ

JVC HA-s600 or s360 or s300
Polo HD Monster Beats
Genesis H44
Sony MDR Xd-100
Watson KH9604

IT HS2550
Scott Prince HFX580
Hama HS-10 Woodland
Prestigio headphones
Modecom MC400 fruity orange

TDK MP100 White
LifeChat LX-1000
Philips shl 3060
Sogt ST-1035
philips sbc 3145 stereo

>>59028773
Noise cancelling is a gimmick. Just get closed headphones that actually sound good, rather than obsess with noise cancellation.

Bose is shit for the price.

>>59032137
this post doesnt make sense

m50 tho

>>59028325
>X2
Which one any link/picture?

>>59032349
Upon googling "X2 headphones" two things come up
Fidelio X2
Jaybird X2

it's fairly obvious which he is talking about

>>59028773
nothing beats bose's ANC
there are other good ANC headphones, that don't have as good of ANC, but have better audio quality and/or comfort

>>59032149
just because you don't need it doesn't mean nobody does

>>59031490
Bump

I want these so badly but I can't justify the cost.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01E3SNO1G/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B01E3SNO1G&linkCode=as2&tag=thedaionl-21

>>59032889
>https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01E3SNO1G
Protip: The noise cancellation is the only thing they have going for them. Like everything else BOSE, the sound is shit for the price.

With that much money, you could get Sennheiser HD600 + amp.

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Is it worth waiting on the HD598's to go on sale? I keep reading about how people picked them up for $100, but the cheapest I can find them new is $150. Anyone know if they pop off on sale frequently?

>>59033215
>Like everything else BOSE, the sound is shit for the price.
Thay are pricy but it's worth it.

>his headphones aren't japanese
lmao

MeeAudio M6 Pro
Why are they so good at the low price?
Porn has never sounded this great

>>59031554
How do you think closed design alters soundstage? How do you think headphones alter soundstage at all?

>>59033244
Check camelcamelcamel or some other amazon price tracking website. A friend got his HD598se recently at 99€, from amazon.fr

>>59033314
>Thay are pricy but it's worth it.
No, by shit for the price I literally meant shit for the price.

There's far better headphones than BOSE's at any price point.

With BOSE, you're paying for the brand, and it isn't that great a brand.

>>59033737
kek
it's the same non-argument people use who are too poor to buy macs

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>>59033815

>>59033815
wtf, do you use that riffraff-optimized garbage over building your own?

>>59033815
>it's another "wow you're too poor to afford it so your argument is void" episode
Classic.

>>59033815
Do you recommend beats headphones?

Why would anyone buy something that is inferior to other products? Money isn't even a factor here.

>>59033815
Go back to plebbit, you pleb.

>>59033918
what a completely nonsensical post

>>59033815
Let's agree to disagree.

>right side cable entry
not even once

Who cares about a brand again? If you're going to shit on something, you better have solid reasoning to back it up.

"Lol it's BOSE aka shit" is not an argument.
"Lmfao you're poor" is not an argument.

Still waiting for an answer to >>59033672

Can I use phone headsets for PC? or are 3.5mm jacks too little for my PC?

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>>59034002
>Can I use phone headsets for PC? or are 3.5mm jacks too little for my PC?

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>>59033727
thanks anon, i'll keep an eye on it

>>59034014
Ok um is there a problem if I buy headsets designated for tablets, phones, mobile audio devices and instead I want to use them for my PC all day every day?

>>59034037
A..Anon, surely you jest?

>>59034037
why would there be? 3.5 is the standard audio jack

>>59034002
3,5mm is the standard size in computer electronics, too. Your question depends on what you mean by a "headset". On the TRRS connector the left and right channels are a standard across all manufacturers but mic and ground vary. If you want to use the possible in-line mic on the headset you will generally have to find an adapter piece that separates that portion and plug it into the mic input and know what kind of a TRRS plug the headset has.

>>59034037
>a problem
For playing back stereo sound? No. For mic and remote functions? Likely yes.

>>59033918
poorfag detected

>>59033986
>Still waiting for an answer to >>59033672

This indicates a lack of understanding of the nature of open vs. closed headphones.

Check the OP, check google.

>Budget
50-60€
>Location
Germany
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
doesnt matter
>Comfort level
dont care much
>Past headphones
Sennheiser PC 320

Also which standalone microphone do you suggest for 10-20€ ?

>>59034139
>This indicates a lack of understanding of the nature of open vs. closed headphones.
No. The entire concept of headphone isolation and form factor altering spatial sound localization in a specific way indicates a lack of understanding of how we localize sound. This is why I asked in the first place.

>Budget
Up to 350€
>Location
Europe
>Source
Computer. Thinking about gettin small amp on my desk.
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Dont care that much. But closed seems little bit better.
>Comfort level
Comfy would be better.
>Sound signature
v-shaped

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Want to buy second set of full sized headphones to compliment my HD650. I need two things: soundstage and bass. They can be V-shaped.

>>59034202
> closed seems a little better
Why? closed are a compromise. Loss of quality in exchange for isolation.

>>59034225
Yeah. But my surroundings is kinda noisy. And also I fear sound leakage.
But on other side. Better sound quality is better sound quality.

>>59030240
>681evo
>so fucking tiny
we must've owned different headphones

>>59034298
Better sound quality isn't gonna matter if it's muffled by literally everything around you.

>>59034323
Think they meant to type tinny in reference to the sound.

>>59034298
If there's people in the same room or you're working in a construction site, closed.

Otherwise, open.

I just got my Sennheiser Momentum Wireless, /g/. Just paired it with muh Linux laptop.

It's very choppy/robotic, what's wrong?

>>59034588
>It's very choppy/robotic, what's wrong?
Bluetooth driver. Do you have an actual binary installed? Also, can you double-check sound quality with Mac/Windows/iphone/android?

>>59034202
V-MODA Crossfade M-100. thyer'e the best closed v-shape cans.

>>59034605
Seemed to work fine on Android. I don't think I have any drivers for the headphones installed. Perhaps I should plug it in via USB and stuff?

I just took it right out of the box and paired it.

NEW THREAD

>>59034637

NEW THREAD

>>59034637

NEW THREAD

>>59034637

NEW THREAD

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>>59034202
DT770, get whichever ohm version you want if you want to get an amp or not.

So guys I own a pair of m40x and have been using my phone for playback

Would I see an improvement quality wise if I were to buy a Fiio x1 II ?
My library consist mainly of flac

>>59034634
No, Bluetooth driver for Linux. You should install actual binary driver (usually from WIndows) for your Linux BT to work right. It's probably a BT3 driver and Momentum uses BT4.

Anyway, see you in new thread... this one is not bumping and will be archived in a minute or two.

>Budget
100 Euro, hard limit
>Location
Portugal, the ass of europe
>Source
Mainly PC but sometimes i listen to music while im outside
>Type of headphone
No earbuds, i share the headphones
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
The more the better
>Sound signature
I like bass but im not too picky with this price range, plus i have not that much experience
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 419 --- Really liked them but they broke and I need new ones. If they were still for sale I would get the same model

I got 3 in mind that seem ok but if you guys know anything better i would like to see it
- PIONEER SE-MS5T-K
- Sennheiser HD 4.30G
- Sony XBass MDR-XB450BV