Ryzen 1600X $260 CINEBENCH R15 Benchmarks, Matches Intel’s

>cinnebench
I'll wait for real benchmarks like DoTA, LoL and Skyrim

Intelfags on suicide watch

>>59008432
Intel shills on confirmed on suicide watch

Double the power for the same amount of money as Intel's offering

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>>59008432

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>>59008432
>gaymeur

>>59008434
You really need proof of that? Seems like such a waste of time.

What will you give me?

>>59008468
No one believes you.

>>59008405
Oh god the hype is killing me, cant wait anymore.

>>59008405
>$430 6800K
It's also matching the $617 6850K

>>59008405
So AMD is still unable to compete with Intel's top of the line.. hehe

>>59008487
380 shares at 2.60 was only $988 and the lowest its' been the past 52 weeks is like $1.68 or something.

>>59008503
16c/32t and potentially 32c/64t is coming this year.

>>59008503
>1600x is the top

You mean xeon's at least...

>it matches x
>b-but only in cinebench
>n-no we didn't take over locking into account...

>>59008503
There are higher end CPU's. 1700 and 1800X BTFO the 6950X

>>59008405
Great for HPC and workstations
7600k still the way to go for gaymurs

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>>59008405

Remember when Intel used to be better than AMD?

>>59008519
>over locking
Is that a new Intel feature where you pay extra for SSE4, AVX, VT-x, VT-d and RDRAND/SEED and TSX?

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>intel shills crying so hard the humidity in /g/ raised 20%

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Uh, okay?

I bought my 5930K 3 (three) years ago for €300 ($330) instead of €630 and I have been using it OC'ed at 4.4 Ghz since then...

I mean it's good for people who absolutely wanted an AMD CPU...

While I hope that the ryzen line-up won't be trash, single thread performance is overall more important for the average PC user.

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With these numbers, and Apple's propensity to maximize profits, how soon before we see a Zen-based Mac Mini/iMac/Mac Pro?

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>>59008405
>>59008432

>weak-minded plebeian arguing again.

There's only one true path to enlightenment.

>>59008568
> Recommended Customer Price $583.00 - $594.00

Sure.

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>>59008405
>not even the top cpu
>draw less power
>cheaper
>1136 points

INTELFAGS (Including me) ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>59008568
It's good for everyone that want low prices.

>>59008571
Single thread performance is good

>>59008571
>single thread performance is overall more important for the average PC user.

Use your head a little, if two competing 6 cores score similarly in tests that use 6 cores at similar clocks wouldn't that, using simple deduction mean their single thread performance is similar

>>59008405

shopped

>>59008468
What broker are you using?

>>59008592

>I don't know anything about tech prices in Europe
>I have never heard of Cyber Week/Cyber Friday/Black Friday deals

(You)

>>59008591
You again. What the fuck is your endgame? How much is that company paying you to shit up this board? What CPU are you using to post here? Why are you making cringy memes? What's in it for you?

>>59008405

PLEASE DELETE THIS

>>59008432
>gaymer manchild is butthurt...
kek'd

>>59008621
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Processor-3-50GHz-Socket-2011-V3/dp/B00N5GYRSM/ref=sr_1_1/254-1833700-8865443?ie=UTF8&qid=1487464210&sr=8-1&keywords=5930K

Not following your magical half price HEDT prices there, boy.

>>59008591
>the dude from the other thread

I love you tho

>>59008627

His HTPC ITX VIA chip is the saviour of the future of X86.

>>59008675
What CPU is he using to post his advertisements here?

>>59008691

Mother fucker are you dense?

VIA forgive us for our tresspasses.

>>59008615
Scottrade.

I know they're pretty meh now days, but at the time they were the cheapest for online trades and their site work decently for the time.

>>59008650
>I have never heard of Cyber Week/Cyber Friday/Black Friday deals
>I have a reading disability

(You)

>>59008711
LMAO

>>59008593

Ladies and gentooman, your new i5 2500k.

>>59008591
I have a 1.0GHz C3, and it's shit even by 2003 standards

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LISA
LISA
LISA
LISA
LISA
LISA

>>59008582
I have no doubt in my mind Zen-based APU's will become a major force in OEM machines. Especially if they truely will offer as many Vega CU's as a 460 currently sports and a couple stacks of HBM on top of a 4c/8t CPU all in a ~35w package.
That information comes from a rumor mill, though, so I guess we'll see. I really hope they bring HBM to APU's since the biggest bottleneck they currently face is bandwidth.

Just imagine if they're able to allocate the HBM as a pool for system and video RAM. It would make the APU's a legitimate SoC with motherboards serving as glorified I/O and power regulation slaves.

There'd be basically no reason NOT to use them in super compact desktops and AiO set ups. AMD could proof a generic PCB with headers for power delivery and to connect remote boards sporting the I/O ports for ultimate versatility.

It feels so good to never have been an Intelfag.

Now I can upgrade from my fx-8350 with dignity.

Fuck you ticktocktock shills.

>>59008738
Damn, I'm sorry.

My first was a 1.33Ghz Thunderbird. It was fucking godly at the time.

>>59008747

Sounds like a highend ultrabook to me.

>>59008450
>Replying to obvious bait.

>>59008747
They would be retarded not to. They could get ~470 pref with 4 SMT cores into one chip. It would be the only thing most people who play on PC need, it would change everything. "gaming" laptops would just look like regular laptops.
God I would be SO FUCKING HYPE.
It. Would.Change. Everything.

>>59008753
I don't understand.
You buy the best CPU avalaible which has been an Intel CPU for the past 10 years.

If it happens that AMD releases a better CPU then you buy AMD.

Are you poor or something?

>>59008753
One doesn't necessarily need to have suffered with piss poor single core performance for five years to join team red. Personally I will be moving from an i7 2700k to a 1700x and I am looking forward to it.

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1700x + 1080ti :3

>>59008790
7700k will still be better for games, every one can OC to 5.0 and it has iGPU

>>59008776
this. I used AMD processors up until 2008, but only Intel since then. fanboys gonna fanboy.

>>59008776
People don't want to support shitty companies that price gouge their customers and who are directly responsible for past 5 years of CPU stagnation.

>>59008820
>OC to 5.0
Schlomo pls.

>>59008610
The retards that keep spouting "muh single core" fail to realize the lower core count parts perform better because they're clocked higher and maintain a higher boost than the 6/8 core parts.
Provided Zen can maintain a stable 4.5Ghz on 4 cores when needed it will perform the same. If XFR turns out to be as versatile as AMD suggests, you'll get higher speeds on less cores when that's most effective or more even speeds on all cores when that's most effective.
Or you can just manually set individual clockspeeds the way we always have if you feel XFR isn't doing its job correctly.

>>59008824
AMD's fault then, if AMD wasn't shit Intel would be better

>>59008849
>AMD's fault Intel bribed OEM

>>59008816
I doubt there will even be a 1080ti, and if there is one it'll be close to 1000 burger bux, no way Nvidia is gonna touch their pascal profit margin
It really won't be worth it unless it's just as good as a Titan XP, but even then at the price it's going to be at you might as well just get a Titan now instead of waiting

>>59008861
Free market, AMD should have done it too

>>59008747
HBM APU is planned somewhere between 2018-2020, but I'm not sure if it'll be shared with the CPU, or if it will be for the desktop market or just servers.

>>59008849
>>59008861
>if AMD wasn't shit Intel would be better
this is true, look the 7700K rebrand

>>59008747
zen apus would be unanswerable. intel can do x86 but can't graphics, nvidia can do graphics bur can't x86, and their tegra SoCs aren't nearly comparable and won't be for years. I seriously worry about the long term viability of Intel. They could be in an even worse position than AMD has been in the next 3-4 years.

>>59008820
My 2700k does 5.0 GHz but I need to give it 1.50 Volts. Either way I look forward to buying a 1700x.

>>59008877
>They could be in an even worse position than AMD has been in the next 3-4 years.
With their enormous revenue?
Doubt so, not in the next 10 years at least

>>59008816

Infiniti fabric.

>AMD went to great lengths to explain how granular IF is, it is one of the technology’s key selling points. Like all modern fabrics it has a firware driven microcontroller but as you would expect, that doesn’t scale well. IF has scalability as one of its pillars. Instead of a single controller AMD broke up the control tasks into many tiny sub-controllers, one per IP block. That IP block bit is a bit nebulous but given how the speakers were talking about granularity, think shader rather than GPU, it sounded like they made it granular enough to have thousands of sub-contollers across a die like Vega, not tens.

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>>59008849
(You)

>>59008862
It's on production, a new GP102 cut and also they wait Vega

>>59008896
Still not worth it unless they price drop the current cards to match last gen's pricing

>>59008816
what a slag

>>59008896
I wish Vega to be the second coming of 7970.

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>>59008675
>>59008711
>>59008657

Thank you and make sure to spread the word.

VIA the the powerful

VIA the forgiver of sins

VIA the great

>>59008405
intel is finished and bankrupt

>>59008820
>if I make it light my house on fire, it's almost as good in highly demanding multithreaded modern games!

Love that sunk cost fallacy.

>>59008924
>via is love
>via is peace
>via is life

>>59008885
their revenue is about to dry up big time. plus brian is a retard, he'll probably waste all their reserves on housefire mobile abortions and campaign fundraising for trump

>only $250
>non-x version is $220
Intel is done.

>>59008913
>he don't like SJW waifu

>>59008941
And donating to Feminist Frequency. That's surely better then hiring better engineers and giving the fatter paychecks.

>>59008621
>Having to wait for one day out of the entire year to hopefully buy the CPU you want before it runs out of stock in 2 seconds

You just love Intel's dick in your ass, don't you?

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>>59008933

It's what the Bogdanoff use.

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>>59008405
JUST
U
S
T

>>59008969
Why don't women teams design architectures? I've only seen like 3.

>>59009020
Quick rundown?

>>59009027
You know the answer to that question, ask your instincts.

>>59009020
Can I get a quick rundown on them?

>>59009020
Would you kindly provide a brief rundown on these fellows?

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>>59009045
>>59009054
>>59009062

Will game devs start checking the option in their engines to enable multithreading going forward? People will finally move on from quad core.

>>59008992
I see that you're lacking arguments.

>>59009027
AMD's current CEO was a researcher on device physics, and became VP of IBM's semiconductor R&D.

She was also chief technology officer at Freescale Semiconductor.

She's legit.

And when you look up AMD's diversification? It's about diversifying into markets, making console chips, not about giving money to a scam artist "feminist".

>>59008877
Intel is a fucking asset to the United States in ways hardly fathomable.

They'll pull ahead from whatever but they are like the auto industry. They have all their own tech, know-how and 'facturing.

They are not going anywhere as long as the US wants to remain competitive and a world leader.

AMDs dumbest move was getting rid of the fab. They can die and everything will be fine if not more expensive. Intel is among the foundational institutions that define American capabilities.

>>59009098
That would be IBM my dude. Intel is nothing.

>>59008405
DELETE THIS SIR

>>59009098
You seriously think AMD won't buy off GloFo's Newyork fabs if they get money back like they had in 2005?

AMD had to get rid of their fabs because they were bleeding them dry.

>>59009098
Hi Brian.

>>59008773
The only things that keeps me somwhat skeptical are:
1. AMD put the APU's as being AM4-based on their timeline
2. HBM will still be quite expensive and in limited supply.

The CPU, GPU, and HBM would all require their own dedicated power deliver Circuitry. Unless AMD has worked some utterly redundant VRM design into the general layout of the AM4 boards or they have a highly specialized chipset specifically for the APU's, I don't see how they can keep the same chipset.
Nevermind the fact VEGA still utilizes an interposer. I don't know how feasible having all that silicon under the same lid as a stand alone CPU is, but in my mind it would need a larger package with specific pin allocation.

Meanwhile the HBM itself will be in high demand for the full sized Vega cards as well as whatever Nvidia's got going on. Thus the APU's wouldn't be a "bargain" based on the hardware you get for money spent, but for the money saved on custom PCB designs and engineering heatsinks and coolers every time you set out to create a new enclosure.

And as far as ultrabooks go, I imagine they'll try to create an APU with a more reserved power envelope as 35w is still quite a bit for a laptop. Maybe a gaymurr laptop, but for something meant more for work they could get away with a much less capable GPU.

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>tfw used to be an intel shill
>ryzen opened my eyes
>can't wait to upgrade

>>59009078

Vulkan and Direct X 12 already benefit from CPU scaling up to 8.

>>59009121
This thread is now patriots only.

>>59009145
yeah but there aren't any games worth playing that use it

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>>59009132
we all, we all anon

>>59008405
Ryzen is looking great and all but I bet there's going to be some issue that will end up ruining it.

>>59009186
Yeah, like trucks and ships delivering it suddenly end up blowing up thanks to bombings.

Have the AoS benchmarks come out yet?

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>>59009186
avx is shit, memory latency is shit, single threaded is shit, it's literally bulldozer-lite. cannot stop lmaoing at these deluded fanboys and their inevitable tears when AMD closes shop next year

>>59009220
>AVX
Somebody unironically runs AVX not in GPU?

>>59009217
>AoS benchmarks
>CPU
Anon...

>>59009220
>wanting to get ass raped by a monopoly

>>59009220
Found a safe spot yet?

>>59009231
You're... half-right in your thinking.

Yeah games don't really use AVX. They do what they would do using AVX on the GPU instead.
But the GPU doesn't "use AVX". AVX are x86-x64 instructions.

And it looks like Ryzen will do AVX fine, but AVX2 will be at half speed.

AMD is in such great position this year. Here's a sweetener for investors: AMD has been such a train wreck for the past several years that it has about $6 billion in net operating losses to shield profits from taxes. This is pure profit for them.

>>59009277
Most stuff doesn't use SSE2 yet and you're worrying about AVX?

>>59009098

Get a load of this Intel shareholder. lmao

>>59009098
Good thing America is going to lose their position as world leader soon.

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>quad core i7s are still only twice as fast as an i3 6100
Gee I wonder how Intel fucked up, it's almost as if they didn't even try for eight years

>>59009277
What uses AVX2 outside of scientific supercomputing? Or is that why AMD only half-assed it?

>>59009408
Fucking nothing. And even then Intel sells discrete coprocessors for AVX2.

>>59009408
ffmpeg uses AVX2

>>59009349
>>59009408
Nice job reading, boys

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>>59008405
Intel BTFO

>>59009427
>Ryzen workstation with an Intel AVX2 coprocessor and a Quadro GPGPU
at least 72 keks

>>59009098
Ironically going fabless was an excellent move for AMD. Intel has been struggling to balance all they markets they've been trying to juggle over the years. Their huge push (and hilarious failure) to break into the mobile market and focus on industry leading node shrinks are major contributing factors into why the performance of their CPU's has stagnated so much.

Meanwhile AMD has focused entirely on design and it's looking as though that approach is about to pay massive dividends.

>>59009382
>it's almost as if they didn't even try for eight years

That's what having a monopoly looks like. Without AMD they would have never improved their clusterfuck Netburst was. They had to improve.

AMD left behind, so Intel got lazy.

Now they're scared as fuck. Watch the revolution in CPU market that's coming in the next few years. Write.this.down.

>>59009484
I kind of wonder why Intel hasn't given up on the nanometer race. Their current offerings are good enough for datacenter work and gamers / power users are usually willing to splurge on cooling. 200W TDP 8 core 32nm i7 for $300 when?

>>59009373

Not until you feel ready to take on our military.

>>59009113
This. If AMD end up taking more than 15% of the server marketshare (very likely) they will be swimming in money. More than enough to buy back glofo and all their tech.

>>59009595
They'll have to manufacture POWER chips for IBM then.

>>59009484
>>59009561
Intel should have done generation skips on their own fabs and licensed for their own products and intermediate steps.

>>59008568
Complete bullshit.

>>59008868
>free market
>was found to be completely illegal

>>59009345

>mfw it was all intentional and AMD are doubly btfo'ing intel and conventional business practices.

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>>59008405
INTEL ON SUICIDE WATCH

Seriously though, they're fucked.

>>59008568
Let's be honest here. This is going to ruin Intel.

>>59009130
>Unless AMD has worked some utterly redundant VRM design into the general layout of the AM4 boards or they have a highly specialized chipset specifically for the APU's, I don't see how they can keep the same chipset.
>Nevermind the fact VEGA still utilizes an interposer. I don't know how feasible having all that silicon under the same lid as a stand alone CPU is, but in my mind it would need a larger package with specific pin allocation.
You would need a thicker chip but not necessarily a larger overall package. The lids themselves are a good 3 to 4 mm thick. They could shave those down to 2mm and be good.
And am4 is an astoundingly robust design. With infinity fabric's flexibility and AMD's prior experience with all these things I could se them putting together a pretty robust design.
4c for them eats up ~40w at 3.6ghz right now, add in 30w for the gpu and 15 (admittedly uncertain about hbm power draw) for the couple hbm stacks and you have a pretty nice little 95w package. They could alternatively push it into the 110w range for extra gpu power.

>>59008405
PLEASE JUST DELETE THIS
PLEASE
I'VE HAD ENOUGH
PLEASE JUST DELETE IT

>100MHz bus
>Only competitive in highly threaded loads.

Yawn.

>>59009665
>Infinity Fabric
Wait

Is AMD's end goal motherboards that can be used forever until they fail (or their IO is obsolete) with only firmware updates? Because that's almost plausible.

>>59009689
How did you escape my filter, what's going on here

>>59009689
oh look it's the retarded tripfag lying episode
https://www.techpowerup.com/230638/amd-ryzen-benchmarks-leaked-amazing-multi-core-and-single-core-performance

>>59009699
The universe is going on.

>>59009661
Their only hope is that they seem to have better research into non-silicone semiconductors for going smaller than 7nm.
But it's going to be more than 7 years before they can start building chips smaller than 7nm. Until then, AMD might just be slaughtering them worse than they did in 1999-2006.

And even then, AMD could just sit back and let mobile CPU fabs figure out 5nm/4nm while they just have to adjust their designs to work.

>>59009130
It has already been confirmed by official AMD slides that the APUs will also be on AM4. That's why the motherboards have video output even without any graphics on board.

Calling it right now, Ryzen will be the Athlon of the 2010s. Intel will come back, but right now it's AMD's time.

>>59009561
It's been a desperate attempt to compete with the likes of Qualcomm and Apple with their inferior instuction set. They refuse to admit x86 simply isn't suited to ultra low power mobile parts and hoped they could beat them out by producing chips on a much smaller node.
It clearly hasn't worked for them, but they're so far down the hole they've dug themselves they have to continue to push forward as delaying their promised nodes even further will piss off investors that much more.
Their CEO has been banking on them being able to enjoy a competition-free desktop space and having a more advanced production facility being their major edge. It's a textbook example of how poor leadership and misguided long term goals can lead a worldclass giant like Intel to a position where all the eggs they've placed neatly in their basket turned out to be brightly colored turds while the other kids have been sneakily scooping up the good stuff.

>>59009610
They'll have the capacity for it. Glofo already does that, and they only seem to be hurting for wafers now that AMD has ramped production to the moon.

>>59009720
The leaked benchmarks show its still slower than Intel's offerings in single threaded performance, while it is a compelling value it isn't competitive seeing as how Intel holds the majority of the market.

>>59009696
Infinity fabric is just the buzzword name for their substrate IP that all their products are built on now. They designed it to be modular, cross platform, and high performance.

>>59009762
Not to mention that these are desktop parts so literally who gives a shit.

what would be better, 1600x or 1700 non x?

>>59009785
You want moar cores or better binned less cores with autoOC feature?

>>59009762
>>59009774
It's within striking distance of Skylake/Kaby Lake in terms of single-threaded performance, which is way better than even the estimations that we thought were optimistic from about a year ago that pegged Zen as having Ivy Bridge like single threaded performance. This wouldn't be a big deal if it was cost-comparable but it's not at all. AMD is going to undercut the shit out of intel's offerings so something will have to give.

As to who gives a shit? People still have to buy PCs, however unfashionable they may be in 2017.

>>59009785
1700 for multi thread workloads, 1600 for single thread favoring workloads. Game trend is going to multi thread and its only a matter of time and actual work is multi thread. So if you get a chip and want it to last as long as possible id get the 8 cores.

>>59009809
Its well beyond what I expected but it still isn't going to be enough if Intel drops the price of the 7700k even $50 bucks.

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>>59009809
>replying to the tripfag

>>59009785
1700 because it has 2 extra cores and 6 extra threads. X and non-x chips will probably overclock within 100-200MHz of each other. I'd always get more cores even if it means a slightly lower overclock.

>>59009826
Yes. Intel would need to drop it by a lot more than $50.

>>59009826
>Intel
>ever dropping the price
KEK.

>>59009762
>>>>>>the $150 Ryzen only has 90% of the single threaded performance of the $330 7700k its so bad!!!!!!!!!!

>>59009785
Do you do lots of video editing, or like having 300 chrome tabs running at a time? Then the 1700.
For gaming and most others, I think the 1600X looks like the best value and range of capabilities.

>>59009804
i was more of thinking of OP's benchmark. thanks tho

>>59009823
i'm thinking to get the 1700 because it kind of falls in my budget

>>59009836
Its retailing for $299 right now.

>>59009842
The leaks showed the price to be $259 and its single thread isn't even as fast as a 6700 non k.

>>59009848
300 burgers for unsoldered 4/8? Wew.

>>59009836
>>59009848
Sure if they drop it to $249, then that might be somewhat competitive. Especially for those that need an iGPU and can't wait for the superior Ryzen Ridge. And for people that don't mind voiding their warranty just to make it cool properly.

Intel is not known for dropping prices, though. They'll just spend more on marketing and bribes instead.

>>59009859
price of what?
The $259 one is the 1600X which is 6c/12t 3.3/3.7ghz with XFR.

>>59009848
Yeah, but that's at microcenter. I'd expect AMD's chips to be $30-50 cheaper there too.

>>59009882
It's Raven Ridge you dumbfuck.

>>59009894
sorry sir i wont get it wrong next time sir

>>59009859
>The leaks showed the price to be $259
Which one? The babby i7 4 core equivalent is $175.
>its single thread isn't even as fast as a 6700 non k.
Non-k are locked, kike. Sure, at stock the 4 core 8 thread ryzen is maye 3% slower, but overclocking it to the point where it's faster takes minutes. All ryzen chips are unlocked and you don't need a $200 motherboard to overclock.
Kiketel btfo. Sad!

>>59008405
> 95W vs 140W
Cmon guys, that's not fair, where's the 140W Ryzen CPU's?

>>59009859
There's no argument to support $300 4c/8t CPUs once this shit drops though.

Nobody is going to spend $50-100 more for ~5% better single threaded performance when they could have a 6c/12t for $250. It's a no-brainer. Intel is going to have to drastically drop prices to compete with this.

>>59009894
i raven ridged your mom last night

>>59009665
You fail to realize the CPU, GPU, and HBM would need completely isolated power delivery. Regardless of overall power demand, each would need specific voltage and current based on respective load. The fury cards had separate power fazes for the HBM the same way cards with GDDR do and motherboards currently have fazes dedicated to RAM. Unless all AM4 boards have absurdly flexible power delivery standard (highly unlikely as it would be costly and inefficient as it would be unused by most systems) or there is a separate chispet for high performance APU's.

And what I should have said is 'sharing the same package as standard CPU's.' Go look at the Vega chip. The interposer, although much smaller than the one used in the Fury cards, still adds quite a bit to the dimensions of the package. It's because the HBM requires a fuck ton of connections of ideally equal length. Much like the exhaust headers of a high performance car, sometimes it's better to make longer overall connections in the interest of equal length.

I just don't see them making a CPU+GPU+HBM package on a unified die when they haven't even made a GPU with HBM sans interposer as of yet.

Still, if we don't see an APU with HBM this year or even next, I highly doubt we wouldn't see one by the time Zen+ comes around.

>>59009910
12 core 24 thread soon.

>>59009910
Maybe next year you'll get 10 cores with 4.0 base.

>>59009912
I would.
The feature set is always going to be better on Intel processors because they basically lead the market. If you want the latest SSE AVX or even hardware features like iGPU virtualization (sharing your gpu between host and guest) You buy Intel. If you want 4k hevc playback you buy Intel.

>>59009848
There always cheap there, that's a very misleading comparison

>>59009921
>tfw am4 will be around until 2020
>AMD will release a 10 core 125w beast at 4GHz
>sell my 8 core ryzen and only spend $200 for moar corez
Jewtell kike shill puppets will never know this feel.

>>59009935
Useless, useless and useless? Nice arguments, kike.

>>59009935
>If you want the latest SSE AVX
>hardware features like iGPU virtualization
>If you want 4k hevc playback

lol

>>59009935
>SSE
useless
>AVX
discreet GPU can do it
> iGPU virtualization
useless
>4k hevc playback
again, gpu

>>59009935
Most of those points are really moot for gamers and people who just want a decently fast computer, and 4k HVEC can be done on anything that has enough processing power

>>59009946
*shrug*
The processor is already faster, the features and superior support are arguably more important selling points.

AMD has been shilling tech after tech that ends up being vaporware, whatever happened to the heterogenous compute that was supposed to make your spreadsheets and facial recognition super fast?

Nobody cared because Intel with Nvidia and Cuda were already better.

>>59009935
>virtualization with 4 cores

Great, so 2 cores to guest? What's the point
The other ones are nonsense, AMD supports SSE* and AVX and 4k hevc playback lmao don't you have a discrete GPU?

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>>59009935
g-g-get out

>>59009970
>whatever happened to the heterogenous compute that was supposed to make your spreadsheets and facial recognition super fast?
It's in the APU line.
LibreOffice calc is something like 40x faster than MSOffice when using an AMD APU with HSA.

>>59009970
>shitty quadcore
>SUPERfast
My sides. Go shill somewhere else poojeet.

>>59009935
You're also a blithering moron shill so no surprise.

>>59009935
>no igpu
>4k hevc playback
>tripfag

>>59009970
If you have specific needs for all those things, sure buy intel. but for gamers, facebook machines and some OEMs that just want higher profit margins they couldn't give a shit

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>>59009970
>*shrug*
t. 25 year old Intel numale shill

Go damage control on reddit, cuck.

>>59009991
And you had to rely on AMD to push the patches to implement that support.

CUDA support has been widespread for years and thats why heterogeneous compute was basically DOA, the benchmarks were a joke because they weren't comparing themselves against the already existing tech, it was an advert for mediocrity.

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>>59010022
No, he is a trumpfags

>>59009848
And Ryzen 1700 will cost that much, with double the number of cores and the same IPC.

Buying back glofo is shit idea, I perfer them buy back Jim Keller back form tesla.

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>>59010056
Well if you count iGPU cores the i7 has something like 8x more cores.

>>59010056
no to mention cheaper motherboard

>>59010086
>iGPU cores
you are a joke.

>>59010024
>And you had to rely on AMD to push the patches to implement that support.
Nah, it was actually written by the LibreOffice devs.
Since it's a CPU architectural feature, it doesn't require massive API's, just basic coding structures that the compiler can take advantage of.

>>59010086

Now you sound like an amd faggot counting cores on an APU.

>IT HAS 12 CORES!

>>59010086
>people who actually buy 6-8 core parts are going to give a shit about a iGPU

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>was going to waste $1000 on jewtel
Thanks amd. Thought I hate to wait.

>>59010086
And AMD's Bristol Ridge chips have way more than that.

>>59010086
You're just pathetic at this point.

>>59010104
>it was actually written by the LibreOffice devs
No it wasn't they released benchmarks before the patches were submitted to GCC or libreoffice. You are thinking of OpenCL support.

>implying Intel is going anywhere or their market share will take a hit worth even mentioning
>oh please

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>people still replying to the obviously baiting retard tripfag

>tfw buying a dual 2011 socket C604 motherboard and two Xeon E5-2690s for less than two Ryzen R7 1800X systems
Too bad you can't SLI CPUs, amirite :^)

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>>59009935
>it's a "tripfag acts like an enormous retard shill" episode

People replying to a tripfag, nice thread retards

>>59010150
Naples

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>>59009910

Napples 32 cores 64 threads?

>>59010187
>wait for two $1000+ CPU and $500+ motherboard
>or buy two $300 CPUs and a $280 motherboard

>>59010148
The funny thing is, the more that the tripfag baits, the more good stuff about Ryzen is brought up, and the more retarded both he, and Intel look.

>>59010188
Will there be a quad socket system? because 128 cores and 256 threads look enticing.

>>59010216
>that single thread and TDP though
By that token I could buy a bunch of cheap as fuck Opterons, set up a networked compute stack, and be set for the races.

>>59009919
it's physically impossible to do HBM without an interposer.

Also, each core on the Ryzen chip has its own metal layer and power delivery. The power delivery has to be robust enough to at least deliver 8 separate signals.

>>59010234
Recent Opterons were never that good though. Dual-socket Sandy Bridges are still well within 90% of their successor models (with the same number of cores, of course).

>>59008517
facepalm, I was thinking about buying last year when it was below 2 and a coworker talked me out of it.

>>59010284
Would it be a bad time to invest now?

>>59010216
I'll be really tempted to build a lan box (like that Linus vid) if Ryzen delivers

obviously the GPUs would still be expensive, but something like a 1700x/1800x plus ~4 rx480s could be done for under $2000

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>>59010231

>128 cores and 256 threads to install gentoo and compile kernel

>>59010312
A way to achieve true enlightenment.

>>59010323

The real orgasm!

>>59010312
with just a few terabytes of ram, just 2Tb no need to go crazy

it's good that competition is finally back.
still on 4690k which i suppose will last me a while, thought it would be good enough till 2020, i guess with this i'll have to upgrade earlier.

4 sockets with 8 DIMMs each,
So 32 DIMM slots, what's the size of highend LRDIMMs nowadays? 32GB?

Anyhow, far cry from 2TB

>>59010312
You can watch anime with it. All the anime.

>>59010380
I can also use every kind of placebo shader/filter/upscaler at the same time.

>>59010399
what a time to be alive

>>59010399
Do you think it could use Waifu2x in realtime?

>>59010379
They have 128GB DDR4 ECC Reg DIMMs
so 32x128GB is 4096GB

And I guarantee you Naples will have more than 32 slots on a 4 socket board

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/26/time_for_a_new_ram_cram_plan_as_128gb_ddr4_dimms_land/

>>59010442
Holy shit there's already 128GB DIMMs? 32GB was top of the line in 2013!

>>59010399
Could you imagine all the VMs you could also do this on???
WHAT GODLY STATE OF CUMPUTING HAVE WE REACHED???

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>4 cores
>F O U R cores
>FOUR FUCKING CORE
>in 2017
>for $350
>THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY US SHEKELS FOR A 4 (FOUR) CORE CPU

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>>59010417
>Waifu2x in realtime

>>59010479
Then you can rent them all out and then have your door kicked in when one of them is used for botnetting/phishing/other internet mishaps

>>59010501
>on native 4k anime upscaled to 8k, make it 60fps with smooth video project just because

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>>59010442
4 TB of RAM...
>tfw when you don't need SSDs

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>>59010500
>$1100
>ELEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARYDOOS
>for an 8 (eight) core cpu
>eleven fucking hundred shekels
>ELEVEN HUNDRED
>8 CORES

>>59010534
You still need a bit of storage for RAMDisk save/loading the OS.

>>59010557
That's what a RAID0 array of two 2TB 960 PROs are for
Also
>not having 100% uptime on your server

>>59010534
8TB for a 64 slot, 12.2TB for a 96 slot. even at 4tb that would be a hell of a ramdisk to try to load and unload.

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>>59010134
>>59010086
>>59010024
It's okay anon. I almost hope you're right because the butthurt that'd arise from it would be amazing

...almost

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>>59010582
>>not having 100% uptime on your server
I try.
PCIe devices aren't hot swap.

>AMD manages to match 3 year old technology

Hot damn that's savage. Game changing. We will all be pooing in the streets by this time next year.

If you got a CPU in the last 3 years this doesn't matter because you would be a fool to upgrade.

>>59010781
Not with that attitude, The PCIe standard allows for hot-swapping. The motherboard, OS, and PCIe device has to support it though.

If AMD never bought ATI and split their pathetic R&D budget in half trying to run both, this is how every CPU in the past 10 years could have been

>>59010800
>muh quad core
>muh dual core
ok familia

>>59009568

Very few world powers in history have withered and died because of military reasons, despite always being the strongest.

>>59010996
>If AMD never bought ATI and split their pathetic R&D budget in half trying to run both, this is how every CPU in the past 10 years could have been
If AMD never bought ATi they would have never survived to make these chips.

>>59008556

holy kek you savage

>>59008432
>real benchmarks like dota lol skyrim
/v/ bait is real

>>59008564
>glueman
>2017

>>59010782
3 year old technology is current technology in intel speak

>>59011031
What are you doing right now that requires more than 4 cores?

>>59011264
Your mom

>>59011264
Your sister

>>59008405
>AMD benchmarks "leaks"

Yeah I want to believe but I also remember when the RX480 was suppose to outperform the 980 Ti in gimpwork titles and the Fury X was a "titan killer".

>>59011367
I get what you mean but CPU comparisons are a bit more straightforward and the 480 hype was stupid here. There could be some variences is different instructions but most applications scale pretty well with float and/or int benches respectively.

>>59009427
You're talking about xeon phi right?

>>59009484
It's not like they were making their chip designers work shifts at the fab. I don't see how owning a fab is a distraction for the engineers or how it would detract from their design efforts.

>>59009484
Massive dividends

Maybe gaining 10 percent market share in 2 years.

Sure. Massive comparatively speaking. Any "leaks" on OEM contracts? Wierd how I don't see anything like that round here just two websites constantly being shilled.

>>59011446
Yes and Intel MIC in general.

>>59008432
Gayymerr REEEEE

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DOLPHIN SINGLE THREADED PERFORMANCE BENCHMARK WHERE

>>59011555
How is this relevant?

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>>59011637
CPU HEAVY GOYMER TASK FOR EMULATION
HERE'S GPU BENCHMARKING

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My body is ready.

>>59011652
Again, how is this relevant?
This has nothing to do with Ryzen.

Like I said, 1700 and Asus B350

>>59011530
Who do you think is actually going to buy it? It's not like Ryzen is going to make it into any business OEMs or laptops and creator faggots are all on Macs anyway.

>>59011666
>try to emulate CPU heavy games on an FX 6300
>it chugs like a fatass trying to run a single lap course
it's fucking relevant because Ryzen should make emulation viable on AMD CPUs again
I want to be ready for the eventual original Xbox emulator project

>>59011737
Hueg has like nogames besides Halo and Chromehounds.

>>59011737
*Red Dead emulator project

>>59010284
>>59010296
It's not an awful time to invest now. Most investors seem to think it'll hit around $25 this year. The stock has way more movement than Intel and is much easier to track than Intel has Intel has so many markets it's wasting money in while AMD is focused.

I'm not sure what the ceiling on AMD stock is, though. I mean I guess it could even go to $75 into 2019 if 7nm Ryzen delivers, and they're heavily adopted (>15% market share) in the server space.

I'm the one that got 380 shares at $2.59 per share in 2013. I'm going to be getting another 70 more and I'm putting a sell order of 50 on a $1 trailing stop after it passes $19.40, and 100 shares at $1 trailing stop after it passes $23.40
The remaining 300 I'll keep on a much higher trailing stop.

>>59011264
Streaming, transcoding, running more than 4 major programs.

What aren't you doing that you need less than 4?

>>59008432
cinnebench is probably most unbiased bench there is, it's just their renderer turned benchmark.

>>59010365
I'm on an i5-2500k so I'm upgrading immediately. Going to order that shit right away before they sell out, and then I'll wait for motherboard reviews to get a good one of those.

But an 4690k? That was like the last good value/performance CPU that intel ever sold. It's 22nm and still good. In your position, I'd wait to see if they're going to release an HBM APU or wait for the optimization refresh, like for a 2800X, 2600X, or whatever. Unless, you know, you just want to ditch Intel ASAP since they're a bunch of shady underdelivering Jews and become an AMD fanboy with us right away. That's cool too.

>>59008691

They mythical third maker of the x86

>>59010996
7970, 7950, fury, and nano sales kept AMD afloat.

>>59011747
FUCK YOU
METAL WOLF CHAOS HERE I COME

>>59011835
You forgot all the miners the bought so many 290s you could barely fucking find them.

>>59011846
Still nothing compared to PS2 library. Ace Combat trilogy is worth more than anything in HUEG.

>>59011847
Like me.

TY AMD for the 22 bitcoins I got in like 3 months of mining for only like $200 more in electricity. I wish I mined more. FUCK. It made my room so hot though and I live in the south :((((

I could have just mined bitcoins for 2 years straight and I'd have been set for life if I lived up north.

How's the single threaded performance? I don't really know how benchmark scores translate into real world usage. For single threaded applications, would this CPU be faster than a 4770k?

>>59011933
No. Maybe in some cases, yes, but mostly no.

>>59011939
Thanks. I do a lot of work with shitty single threaded applications and emulation and I've been considering upgrading.

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>>59011933
Some 3.3-3.6ghz Ryzen samples have scored 140-150~ in Cinebench 15 single thread.
A i7 6700K at 4ghz scores 182~
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1543

Divide the scores by the clock speeds and it looks like Zen is only slightly behind Skylake in single threaded performance, at least in this metric. CPU-Z scores showed Ryzen in the same ballpark. CanardPC's ES review showed Ryzen with equal perf/clock compared to Broadwell in the selection of games they chose.
Some leaked Passmark scores show Ryzen safely ahead of Haswell in most everything.

It looks like Zen IPC ranges from Haswell to Broadwell on average. One of the 6 or 8 core chips overclocked to a modest 4ghz would be incredibly formidable all around.

>>59011933
Between Ivy Bridge and Haswell.

>>59011981
Which means behind skylake

>>59012000
If you don't overclock. But chances are faggots will try to overclock or end up with a mobo that automatically overclocks it for them if they have a decent big ass air cooler or custom loop.

>>59011981
Higher. Between Broadwell and Memelake. Higher than Memelake in integer math.

>>59012044
Much higher per clock in float math, as well.

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>>59011939
>>59011977
>>59011981
So basically in my circumstances it will be a negligible performance difference when I use my 4770k machine, especially when bottlenecked by a GTX670 for the CUDA calculations.

It should still be a huge upgrade regardless for my shitbox that I let run 24/7.

Thanks for the information.

>>59011977

Intel on suicide watch

>>59011637
Because lots of people, including me, actually use Dolphin.

>>59011977
IT'S OVER INTEL IS FINISHED

>>59008405
i got the i7 6700k at christmas... i fucked up

>>59011977
>imagine an APU with this speed
Fucking AMD just won the PS5 and Xbox(whatever) contract again.

will it be worth upgrading from an i5 3570?
I have to use this computer for ms office and 4chan/youtube

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>>59012273
Sony and Microsoft uses their own proprietary chip. But nice dream Shill.

>>59012273
>>59012312
Scorpio is using a Vega based AMD APU. That's been long confirmed.

>>59012310

This is damning. You will hear from Intel's lawyers shortly.

>>59012323
>xbox
>relevant
>2017

>>59012312
They're both using 8-core CPUs based on AMD cat cores.

>>59012337
It really could be.

Microsoft is pushing this idea really hard of it basically being a "Steambox" but Windows and using the Windows app store shit.
Lots of Xbox exclusives are going to have cross platform play. They're aggressively using it to try to maintain Windows market share now that Linux has been becoming a serious threat and they make money off their botnet in Windows10.

>>59012277
No, not if that's the only thing you use it for. If that's all you use it for, you can keep it for another 5 years senpai.

>>59012312
they both use AMD hardware you fucking idiot.

>>59012356
>steambox
>but without the steam library
DOA.
>xbox exclusives
DOA.

Motherboards galore

http://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2017/02/17/massive-new-amd-ryzen-leaks-official-launch-date-prices-and-new-motherboards/#38e63df747ce

>>59012378
I didn't say it's good. I'm just saying that's what MS is pushing and why they're going to aggressively market the next Xbox and give it good hardware.

>>59012381
Old

I have a 5820k but I want to support AMD.

What do

>>59012391
good hardware doesn't sell consoles.
xbo has zero exclusives now, the PS4 is riding it just by having anything at all.
PC has all its games, PS4 has games it doesn't as well as the multiplats that matter.
Making the XBO twice as powerful isn't going to save it, they would need to literally make it able to play steam games for it to be a value at this stage.

>>59012414
xbo doesn't have good hardware.

>>59012310
>still slower single thread
>only better multi-core because MOAR COREZ
jesus f christ
so AMD is good only for poorfags, got it..

>>59012398
sell it before it becomes worthless

>>59012425
ecks de only poorfags get the i7-6850k and i7-6900k
hahaha is my comment smart guys GUYS

>>59012425
The i7 7700K has a 4.2ghz base clock.
Try again little shill.

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>>59012398
Continue sucking Intels cock like that one person I sold a 6850k to for 370 dollars when I only payed 200 for it.

Less than 3 months ago. I bet that person feels fucking retarded

>>59012436
Last week i5-2500k were going for $90.
Now they're $60.
I can't sell it yet as I'm still using it until Ryzen comes :(

>>59012445
>The i7 7700K has a 4.2ghz base clock.
...and?
>w-well the number is higher
...ok and I will be buying it because it's faster
questions?

>>59012450
>when I only payed 200 for it.
Why would you lie on the internet

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>>59012425
>He paid $400 more for a 10% single thread performance boost

>>59012490
>10%
top kek you can't even do math, no wonder you're too poor to buy the best CPU
>m-muh price-performance
lmao..

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>>59012465
>Intels brainwashing program
What is Retail Edge, Alex?

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>>59012456
oh, how the mighty have fallen

>>59012499
Who cares. Only loonix tards and people still running Win2000 programs worry about single core performance. Get with the times grandad.

>>59012499
You're right anon! Those 15% gains in that one benchmark totally correlates to real world performance increase!

>>59012500
>working in retail
Just LMAO @ ur life right now. I'm sure you signed something somewhere that you weren't supposed to sell that but that's obviously meaningless to you.

Anyway, selling my 5820k would be pretty stupid. Just going by ebay listings it appears I'd take a decent haircut, even if I bundled my mobo with it. Oh well.

you know what? Let's assume it's all true.

The worst thing that can happen OEMs will hog all chips first month and we get nothing, hype will die out, and AMD won't gain share - again.


>“There will be widespread system availability from day one,” Su said during the call. Channel vendors will receive the first Ryzen chips, along with system integrators. More traditional hardware vendors will come later, Su added.

here is what I base it on, recent investors call

>>59012523
It's over 18% you delusional poorfag
>w-well the bench doesn't mean anything
oh ok so I guess we can stop posting these benches and wait until real-world performance benches come out heh :^)
oh wait no this isn't a valid test because this game only uses 4 threads a-and...!

KEK
enjoy your poorfag CPU pajeet

>>59012529
>I'm the one working in retail
It's beneficial having friends in low places who are too dumb to realize an opportunity.

>>59012536
What is a channel vendor?

>>59012566
no idea, either retail is traditional vendors or channel vendors is retail
I'm pretty much asking someone to translate this marketing talk

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>>59012551
>it's over 18%
No source? Fake news.

>>59008621
Tech is a lot more expensive here in yurup, you cuck. Even with shipping and value added taxes I order cpus from US and asia.

>>59012648
and how much do you save importing? 1.5%?

>>59012625
the fucking benchmark above that we were both talking about literally 15 seconds ago spergzilla

>>59012398
I mean if you literally want to donate money to AMD you could buy a CPU and not use it. Not sure what the point would be.

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>>59012732
So no source then? Okay pajeet.

>>59012680
Well I got e5-2670s for $70 a pop, I bought four and shipping was $50. At the time (last spring) they were listed on ebay.fr/de/uk for a tenfold more or even more.

>>59013063

>>59013063

NEW THREAD

>>59011264
Audio engineering

>>59008889
What does this mean? i dont have enough understanding of that to know what effect it will actually have