/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

First for Arch Linux.

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First for Source Mage GNU/Linux

>Arch Linux
>Arch Linux doesn't provide anything special. People often claim it's "customizable", but it's no more customizable than Ubuntu itself. The community is also very unwelcoming to people who want to customize it beyond what the devs intended.

>There's claims of it being "lightweight", but a debian netinstall is smaller than a base Arch Linux installation. This is mostly due to Arch Linux including development headers in all their packages, which is completely unneeded for a binary package distribution.

>An email from an Arch Linux dev on Arch Linux

What the fuck am I reading. strcat is also not an arch linux dev.

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Where are my Source Mage GNU/Linux brothers!

Are there any GTK3 themes which won't make my GUIs look like web2.0 "flat" hipster shit?

>>59003696
also please no dark themes

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>>59003690

>>59003696
Vertex, deepin

>>59003623
What distro come with a kernel with a framebuffer? I want play vids without X

Which distros zealot fanfags is easiest to trigger and why is it arch linux?

>>59003979
most of them, probably your as well.
run:

zgrep CONFIG_FB /proc/config

to confirm.

>>59004382
I'm on Ubuntu and gave nothing.

>>59004374
"archers" are probably the ones with the thickest skin considering all those posts and threads against arch there.
I would say devuan users or generally anti-systemd users.

>>59004419
Must be painful having fallen for the anti-systemd meme.

>>59004382
No fb0 in dev.

>>59003679
Second.

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>>59003690

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Just lost my 145 days uptime penis. Fucking hell. Is there a way to limit the max. amount of allowed processes?

>>59004783
Yes.

>>59004783
look into ulimit
did you fork bomb yourself?

>>59004807
Yeah, I forgot that shell functions are recursive ...
>ulimit
ty

>>59004783
>muh magic numbers
truly the greatest achievement of a GNU/neet

So kdbus was some cancerous shit. What about this BUS1 thing?

Does anyone know how to configure the nvidia drivers on a laptop with optimus running arch? I tried running nvidia-xconfig but X stopped working.

>>59005548
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus

xf86-modesettings or xf86-intel?

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> buy 20 dollar laptop from thicc grill off LetGo
> install Debian, Arch, Ubuntu, Manjaro and all hang at bootafter update
> Chroot in from live usb, no real info from journalctl

Pic related is Manjaro Dev branch RC1 after applying updates. Help plz. About to killmyself.

>>59005817
maybe try something without systemd?

>>59005734
xf86-modesetting is some deprecated shit. The modesetting you're thinking of is included in mesa (I think). You should try that first but if it's not optimal you should try xf86-video-intel too.

>>59005828
I'll give Devuan a go. Thanks.

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>>59005817

>>59005844
I tried both and see no difference. I was asking because multiple sources suggest to not install xf86-intel.

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>>59005548
>>59005610
>Arch users

>>59006022
what?

New content on /t/ >>>/t/757319

>>59006029
>needing to be spoonfed links to articles on their own wiki

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>>59005548
nvidia settings will overwrite xorg.conf.
>Just so's you're not blaming pacman.

>>59006111
you will find morons unable to google or approach the simplest problem everywhere, this doesn't make all humanity retarded.

>>59006158
isn't xorg.conf deprecated?

>>59006066
>pirating games on linux
now, I'm not "gamer" so I don't really care, but considering how small the linux games market share already is, I don't think this is the brightest idea. You are going to discourage companies from supporting linux even more, and afaik that situation is already pretty bad.

>>59006160
>Arch is for advanced users
they said
>we are advanced users
they implied

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>>59006160
Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”. Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy.

>>59005817
What Dell is that?

>>59006191
GNU/Linux+

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>>59006191
Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”

>>59006271
Inspiron 1018 I think. Intel Atom single core at 1.6ghz. Anything other than i3 drags with it.

>>59006251
I'm pretty sure it's not a closed club. Anyone can download the iso and install it. As always you shouldn't judge something because of a smaller noisy minority of ignorant (especially if we are talking about shitposters on 4chan).

>>59006311
You spend 6 months not getting paid writing a book then just give it out for free.See how you'd like it

freetards BTFO

>>59006348
Free as in freedom, not beer.

>>59006358
REKT!!

>>59006358
Dosent fucking apply retard.
Go write a book, publish it, then actively give it away for free to everyone.
See how the real world works for a change

>>59006387
Free as in freedom, not as in free beer.

>>59006398
You arent "free" to distribute copies of it

>>59006348
>>59006387
>>59006405
no

>>59006414
Welcome to he real world freetard. World dosent work that way

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Isn't Wayland supposed to make KeepassX etc. not work? I'm testing Wayland on Gnome and KeePassXC auto-type worked fine with Firefox..? Is it because it's XWayland?

>>59006257
google as verb means to use google to search something over the internet. People use this term because google is simply the best and most diffuse search engine.
This term is also an accepted neologism (i.e. not considered a grammar error):
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/google
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_(verb)

can is change ubuntu repos to debian repos without complete breakage?

>>59006429
Wayland is meme, and causes an entirely new set of problems, just use X11

>>59006433
>shilling as spying search engine
>doing it for free

>>59006429
>Is it because it's XWayland?
yes, both keepass and firefox can't run natively on wayland

>>59006160
>>59006345
hi newfriend, let me bring you up to speed
Arch users are usually arrogant pricks that like to boast how they're better than everybody
if you've been here for the past couple of years, you'd know how fucking annoying they can get
most of them pretend to be superior while in reality they're just as incomptent as the rest us
/g/'s had it with their bullshit
because they think they're so much better than everyone, Arch users get no mercy for their mistakes
a vocal and very obnoxious part of their community brought this upon all of them

>>59006433
He is asking to avoid the word as verb, he doesn't claim that it's technically wrong, retard.

>>59006463
was just explaining that "to google something" is not an error. Aside that, I can have on option without being a "shill".
Also note you are currently using a website that make use of different google services.

What is your favorite search engine anyway?

>>59006510
try searx

>>59006257
>google as a verb
"I'll just run a search algorithm on that" sounds much more techie.

>>59006510
see >>59006504
searx.me

>>59006529
>tldr: fuckin' run a search algorithm on it

>>59006529
kek
>>59006510
ddg

>>59006562
Let me run a search algorithm on that for you.

>>59006502
You mean the debtards that have arch in a vm and their uptime is always less then 10 minutes?
Those guys?

>>59006502
nah, that was mostly random shitposting and/or trolling, not necessarily from actual arch users, akin to those anons posting about black guys fucking white girls or general "white shaming" on /tv/.
About /g/, you could say the same about anyone, from "wintards" to gentoo users or anti- or pro- systemd fags or linux users in general.

The reality is just that there are a lot obnoxious, trolls or just ignorant people on 4chan. Not realizing that is an error because you risk falling in the same ignorance and becoming a shitposter/troll yourself. Try to make this place a little better instead of lowering yourself to their level.

install source mage

>>59005610
I already read that page but it didn't help. I have gone back to windows for the time being but I will try to reinstall tomorrow.

>>59006701
I will as soon as I finish eating my dinner

>>59006727
that's kind of strange since you tried to run the nvidia autoconfiguration utility.

I have a small laptop with a 128gb SSD and Win10 on it. I'm looking for a small/lightweight linux distro to put on it for some linux-specific development. Any suggestions?

>>59003623

I have an ultrabook that I'm currently using for work, however having to travel a lot I constantly find Windows burning through my battery even with power settings setup correctly, eco mode enabled, you name it I've tried it. I get a solid six hours but I need more for international travel and times when I simply do not have access to an outlet.

Is there a distro that I can install a very basic set of utilities on such as a browser, a basic TeX setup/document editor suite with maximising battery life in mind? For anything more intensive I would boot into my Windows partition.

I was considering getting Remix, but I'm unsure if this is the right place to ask questions about that considering it's android. Perhaps Haiku or Puppy? I know very little about *nix outside of Lubuntu/AWS so forgive my ignorance.

>>59006785
>>59006701

>>59006785
any of them

>>59006785
All of them

>>59006257
people who say 'to google' basically mean 'searching the web', I'm using seax and I acciently say 'I googled' myself sometimes when I actually used a different engine

>>59006311
'piracy' is actually a pretty evil smear word and should never be used, same with 'intellectual property'. those words exist for the sole purpose of brainwashing and bending laws torwads greedy companies

>>59006805
good blog
>>59006785
install gentoo

>>59006789
Unless there is some specific problem with your window system that drain your battery, you won't generally get better battery duration on linux compared to windows. Chances are that it is going go be worse since power management on linux in not always the best.

>>59006785
GNU/Linux*

>>59006800
>Obscure package manager which most likely will lack what I need

>>59006801
>>59006804
>>59006825
>>59006849
Useful comments, thanks.

Can someone please give me a good suggestion.

>>59006865
ubuntu or lubuntu.

>>59006865
You already got all informations related to your question.

>>59006865
Install the one I'm using. It's literally the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use.

>>59006881
Might as well go with the tried solution. Hopefully TDP will give me some more battery life since ubuntu is not very small.

>>59006902
I do?

I'm still in the thread so if anyone wants to share some neat small distro, I'm here.

>>59006934
>neat small distro
tinycore

>>59006845

Oh damn, I figured a really minimal install with only the absolute bare essentials and a few programs would get longer life. That's a shame I guess, I suppose I'll either get a portable power bank or a lightweight tablet I can flash and root then.

>>59006930
And what would that be?

>>59006948
That's actually not half bad.

>>59006953
well trying won't harm, boot a live system for one day just to test battery usage.

>>59006785
First of all you should remove that microsoft malware.

>>59007026
Wish I could but I need it. I run blackbird tho.

>>59006529
Reminds me of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_inspection#Humorous_terminology

>>59006785
puppy

>>59007003

Indeed, I'm going to try out Puppy/Tinycore/Arch individually and see when I have some free time. It would be good to get more hands on experience with *nix anyway.

>>59006785
>>59006865
https://fglt.nl/guides/picking-a-distro.html
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>>59005536
What about it?

>>59006934
I do?
yes you do, because any software can be installed on any distributions. About the lightweight, distributions usually doesn't take too many space on your disk. If you care about bloat, avoid the DE like ubuntu, kde and gnome and use something like xfce.

if you still need a recommendation, you can install a *buntu distribution (probably xubuntu or lubuntu), debian, arch, gentoo... I think you can get fedora without gnome too.

>>59006191
at the contrary, people will buy games only if they know of its existence

>>59006529
>let me algorithm that for you

>>59006429
Wayland is a meme, don't say we didn't warn you.

>>59007321
This. Same (or even more) goes for music btw.

>>59006701
Tonight.

>>59007362
>>>/r/eddit

>>59007362
Wayland is to X like mpv is to mplayer.

>>59007376
Isn't that how Linkin Park got popularity?

>>59007396
>>>no

>>59007419
no

What web browser does /fglt/ use?

>>59007461
first for icecat

>>59007461
Nightly

>>59007461
Didn't try it yet, but I guess this will be the new meme browser: https://qutebrowser.org/

Who are GNU/heros other than Richard Stallman? Who will carry the torch when he dies?

>>59007607
He will stay alive forever.

>>59007607
When Stallman dies, no one will continue his work.
There might be some talks about free software, GNU and "philosophy" and ethic in computer science, but you won't have a guru coming to your university

>>59007607
I am actually deeply concerned for free software after Stallman is gone. There is nobody else that holds up nearly as much as he does. And I don't even care for free software.

>>59007643
Exactly what "work" are you talking a bout?
He made emacs 41 years ago and thats about all he has ever accomplished in the tech industry.

>>59007823
This. The man wrote one program and is basically a meme.

>>59007607
Who cares. More troubling scenario would be Linus's death. grekh would take over and fuck your shit up

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When I heard that Richard Stallman was involved with communism I refused to believe it. He was just an innocent young child who never grew old, Free As In Freedom man. So I was told. He sacrificed everything, so I was led to believe, but who is the real Richard Stallman?

I decided to find out, by first investigating the charge that he was a communist. I felt this was just a hollow troll, but then I looked into his contacts in places like Latin America, Viet Nam, Cuba, and even the Peoples Republic of China. Did you know that even the secretive North Koreans use Linux? Was Stallman involved in this too?

Additional to his clear links to world 'socialism' are his odd personal habits and quirks. What's he up to? Why does he do what he does? Nobody seems to know, he is as enigmatic as Tom Bombadil and that's, apparently, the way he likes it.

What's his end game /g/?

>>59007823
>>59007843
talking about free software and GPL and defending his extremist point of view on the subject.

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>>59005828
Just rebooted into an OpenRC flavor of Manjaro. Thanks, anon.

>>59008025
So nothing?

Is there a way to automate tiling in xfce 4.12? Currently i have to drag the windows on the corners and sides of the screen to organize the windows.

>>59005817
>>59008036
Hah!
See this, systemd shills?
Where is your god now?

>>59008036
no prob

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>>59008090
fuck systemd

road road

>>59007607
The guys at GNUnet maybe.

>>59007461
icecat is love, icecat is life

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How do I save "Force Full Composition Pipeline" in Xubuntu 16.04?

I finally switched to Linux and deleted my windows partition. How do i escape the botnet now? I'm considering deleting my Google account.

>>59009518
Go back to older hardware. Everything is embeded now.

>>59009518

1. Use browser addons for security, privacy, browsing experience, etc.
2. Don't save your password on a plaintext on your computer, create and remember one good main password and let a password manager like KeePassX that has autocomplete generate the rest.
3. Buy a router compatible with OpenWrt and install OpenWrt.

Some links of interest:

Erasing Your Digital Footprint
http://wakeup-world.com/2011/11/25/erasing-your-digital-footprint/

NSA surveillance: how to stay secure
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-how-to-remain-secure-surveillance

How to Remove Your YouTube Viewing and Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/how-remove-your-youtube-viewing-and-search-history-googles-new-privacy-policy

How to Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/how-remove-your-google-search-history-googles-new-privacy-policy-takes-effect

Privacy Tools - Encryption against global mass surveillance https://www.privacytools.io/

PRISM Break - Opt out of global data surveillance programs like PRISM, XKeyscore, and Tempora https://prism-break.org/en/

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>>59008413
save to x. No idea where your X is though.

how do I get my shitty keyboard media keys to work in xubuntu 16.04 with spotify?

>>59008413
usually somethong like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf

>>59009694
Thanks for the links.
>Complain to friend about windows update being forced on me when I'm in the middle of something
>He explains how much windows 10 spys on me and that I should go back to 7 like him
>Decide to dual boot Mint instead
>Loving GNU/Linux
>Replace chrome with Firefox because I realised chrome is closed source and lets Google spy even more
>One week later, I'm a full on freetard, trying to escape botnet and actually caring about privacy.
>Hate closed source, only use it if I absolutely have to
>Deleted Facebook, debating deleting Google account

>>59009820
Just do it man. Not hard to keep your own html file of updated bookmarks hosted somewhere

>>59009820

People don't normally understand that what you say, or what picture you share, can be later used against you in the future.

For finding good folks there is the IRC underground scene, there you can find people alike from almost all kind of kinds.

Of course, there are a lot of ways one can keep a facebook or google account without screwing up, just don't give likes to anything on facebook, otherwise http://dataselfie.it/

>>59009807
Thanks. I only see the following in there when LS'ing:
app-dfaults fonts xkb Xresources Xsession.options cursors rgb.txt Xreset Xsession xsm default-display-manager xinit Xreset.d Xsessiond.

I feel like improving my dwm by using some other bar with a proper systray. Any recs? I hear the xfce bar is nice.

>>59009915
Not the main problem. It's just I use android and I use Gmail, as well as owning a lot of things on Google Play.

>>59010049
Get AOSP and F-Droid?

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>tfw decided to try slackware for the first time for fun today
>actually enjoyed it
pretty fun install tbqh (lilo is pretty cool), would recommend

centos/rhel/suse & various BSDs have been my goto distros for like 5 years now, so slackware a cool change of pace. I'm enjoying the package management aspect the most so far.

Too bad I had to install it on a piece of shit 2007 toshiba laptop since that's the only computer i had left to fuck around with.

Considering maybe switching one of my two work laptops over to slackware next year just for shits, any significant drawbacks? Currently FreeBSD on one and CentOS on the other. Probably would end up being the FreeBSD one that gets switched.

Redpill me on Firefox sync please. It feels like a botnet, but it's useful for switching from Windows and back (muh gaymz)

>>59008046
No, talking about free software and GPL and defending his extremist point of view on the subject.

>>59010251
So in the grande scheme of everything in the entire world? Nothing.

Going to community colleges with his fake phd's throwing autistic tantrums at the slightest change?

He is nothing, and will continue to be nothing important for the foreseeable future.

What has be contributed to the tech industry?
Code? Oh wait he wants someone else to make the code and use gpl so he can steal it.

>>59010371
Why are you in this thread if you don't like software that respects your freedoms?

How can I compare the contents of two directories?

>>59010371
>so much ESL in one post

>>59010407
He is the designated Microsoft troll.

>>59010407
I use Linux,and not gnushit

>>59007850
>>59007843
>>59007823

Linus provided ~2% of code in the current kernel. Today he does nothing but approving commits from the community. RMS provided the GNU project/operating system and contributed to lots of its utilities, GCC, the GPL (and with it the success of Linux), he redpilled millions of people about software freedom - and he's still on it.

>>59010494
and he has done your mother*

>>59010494
>responding to trolls
what is wrong with you

>>59010032
tint2 maybe?
>>59009518
use a good web browser, preferable firefox with tweaked about:config since vanilla ff has lots of crap enabled by default, alternativly use icecat, use searx or startpage as search engine
make yourself familiar with tor, iptables and dns security, avoid nonfree software, especially skype and flash

How can I run a command after dwm has started?

I have this script to set the monitor layout, but it doesnt seem to work in my .xinitrc

if xrandr | grep "$extern disconnected"; then
    xrandr --output "$extern" --off --output VIRTUAL1 --off --output "$intern" --primary --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal
else
    xrandr --output "$extern" --mode 1920x1200 --pos 1920x0 --rotate normal --output VIRTUAL1 --off --output "$intern" --primary --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x120 --rotate normal
fi

>>59010562
>avoid nonfree software, especially skype
I heard a good alternative is Pidgin, they can connect to Skype and apparently they have videochat now.

>>59010576
You're still using skype services and the tracking they do on you

>>59010572
Whoops, i forgot the first part of the script

#!/bin/bash
intern=eDP1
extern=HDMI1

>>59010576
try gnu ring or maybe jitsi, tox, etc

>>59010587
>gnu ring
wait wait wait, ring is now endorsed by gnu? I switching baby

>>59010584
remove the shebang

make sure to put your shit BEFORE the exec command, alternativly, create a shell script and call it from your xinitrc

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I've never done scripting before for anything. What I do is fairly regularly got to my samba share and run

ls -R > directory.txt

for each of the folders on my NAS so I have a directory listing of all the stuff on my share, in case I ever someone lose it all + backups I at least know what I lost. I have to do this 5 times for 5 different directories.

Anyway how would I go about automating all this into one single action? I figure it's scripting but I don't even know how to start. I'd like to take the output .txt files and compress them all into one file too.

>>59010624
That's exactly what im doing. ~/bin/monitors is that script, and the last two lines of my .xinitrc are

monitors
exec dwm

>>59010646
is your script executable?
try waiting for x and dwm by adding a sleep
no idea buddy

>>59010643
find /dir1 /dir2 /dir3 > file

>>59010643
Don't use ls, use find, by default it will list your stuff recursivly.

>>59010411
diff -q dir1/ dir2/ | sort

https://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste
I have been so naive.

>>59010681
>>59010683


so could I put that command into say a .txt file and just click it to run?

What about automatically compressing it?

>>59010762
Nice find,

>>59010664
Turns out my PATH was borked. Changed it to an absolute path instead of just the name of the script.

>>59010646
make sure ~/bin/ is in your PATH

>>59010802
>>59010814
kek, well then

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Posted to this to another thread, but figured I could get interesting opinions here as well. What are your guys thoughts on M$'s efforts towards building and improving WSL? Is this another Microsoft EEE scheme or are they actually being good this time around?

Gotta say I'm really impressed with the work their WSL team has been putting into it, lots of stuff getting fixed pretty quick.

And yes, I wasted a RHEL subscription on this but I can keep deploying that rootfs or docker container and the subscription doesn't get revoked by Red Hat like it should, and I can spin up as many docker instances alongside of this all using the same subscription in parallel.

I'm getting native performance on that KDE environment and the applications running on it, by the way. Console is skewed because of weird screen resolution though but haven't run into actual problems.

Thoughts?

>>59010832
install source mage

>>59010832
>WSL
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish

>>59010858
i've spent my fair share of time with gentoo already, and my suse + KVMs setup serves me well at home. Rather use a solaris fork than source mage tbqh.

>>59010887
Gotta say the EEE scenario seems pretty likely for their powershell opensourcing (although really who really took that seriously) but I'm curious as to how the Extinguish part would play would for WLS.

>>59010832
install source mage tbqh

>>59010832
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28684811/how-to-change-version-string-of-the-kernel

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>>59010832

>>59010931
I don't know, but I still wouldn't trust Microsoft not to do something shady.

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>>59011023
Notice the consistent ram usage in the screenfetch with the RAM usage indicator on my windows taskbar (red one).

If you weren't aware, you're able to run other things than the stock Ubuntu using WSL.
see
> https://github.com/alwsl/alwsl (first guy that came up with the idea IIRC)
> https://github.com/RoliSoft/WSL-Distribution-Switcher

I believe I'm the first one to have tried a RHEL WSL install with working subscribtions though, haven't heard of another. Could be wrong though.

>>59011067
I'd imagine if EEE were to happen it would be something along the lines of WSL restricted features not being contributed back into open source, or pricing out advanced features of some kind (for example being able to execute windows binaries in the linux subsystem).
Keeping my hopes up for MS to not be niggers this time around, but then again it's MS so who knows.

So heredocs and string create a temporary file for their contents in use for the duration it takes to read them? That's awful. Does zsh do that?

FUCKING MICROSOFT SHILLS! GET THE FUCK OUT!

>>59003623
So I've been DE hopping (because I realized distro hopping is completely useless) for about a year now, but I'm completely disillusioned with all the ones I've tried. Is this the point where one goes back to GNOME and tries to embrace it in a love hate love relation?

What fringe DE/WMs are good?

>>59011450
I like dwm, but if you're looking at GNOME it might not be for you.

>>59011507
I'm currently using i3, I'm okay with it but it didn't change my life as everyone claimed it would. I enjoyed a bit of ricing but I just realized it's just not that important for me to have 10 programs open that need to be arranged automatically.

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Guys, I can't find plugin preference in gedit

I installed gedit-plugins as well

>>59011678
Gnome has a retarded global menu nowadays. Click the application name in the top left corner

>>59011746
oh okay, I had an extension to combine global menus so it was hidden

Thanks

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Any users of GuixSD around? I'm considering going full GNU, and wonder how this distro shapes up.

if i want pure debian (no preinstalled anything which installer do i choose?

also what are the differences between arch, gentoo and debian regarding how they operate, besides arch needing to be compiled

>>59003679
>>59003690
>>59003727
What is source mage

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>>59012944
It's like Gentoo, only better because you get to """"cast"""" """"spells"""" from """"grimoires"""".

https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=sourcemage
>Sourcemage is a source-based GNU/Linux distribution based on a Sorcery metaphor of 'casting' and 'dispelling' programs, which we refer to as 'spells'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_Mage
>Source Mage's tagline is “Linux so advanced, it may as well be magic”, and its commands have a “sorcerous theme”. Each package is called a “spell”, and its package management program is called “sorcery”. To install a package the user must “cast” that spell. Casting a spell consists of downloading the source code (if it is not already downloaded), checking for dependencies, casting them if necessary, compiling the program, and installing it. A set of available spells is called a “grimoire”. To uninstall a package the user must “dispel” the spell.

>>59012974
Thanks

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>>59012988
Here's a little history if you're interested.

https://lwn.net/Articles/145233/
>In 2001, Kyle Sallee created a source-based linux distribution called Sorcerer GNU/Linux and released it under the GPL. In late 2001 due to differences with Kyle on how to run the project, a fork was created called Lunar Penguin, now known as Lunar Linux. As a result of confrontations with the Lunar developers, Kyle took Sorcerer off the web one night and nobody could update.
>Many of the developers tried to talk Kyle back into continuing the project, but failed. Ryan Abrams and Eric Schabell took over the GPL'd sources and put up a temporary website. At the request of Kyle, the name was changed, and after a vote, Source Mage GNU/Linux was born. On April 4, 2002, sourcemage.org was registered and website content was put up.
>A short while later Kyle rewrote much of his code and released it under a non-GPL license that prevents forking. These three distributions have continued since, however the rest of this article concerns Source Mage.

http://sourcemage.org/History
>Development now continues on 3 separate distros with three distinct goals:
> - Lunar-Linux aims to produce a stable, solid, source-based distro using well-tested software versions.
> - Sorcerer's aims are unclear at this time, but apparently will create a non-free source-based Linux distro to suit Kyle's vision.
> - Source Mage is working to continue rapid development of the sorcery tools and create a 100% free source-based GNU/Linux distro that allows users the maximum amount of freedom and choice possible.

The wikipedia article says that the initial release of Sorcerer GNU/Linux was in 2007, which is obviously wrong.
Although the rest of the article seems legit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorcerer_(Linux_distribution)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_Mage

Sorcerer appears to be both non-free and non-existent at present time and nobody gives a shit about Lunar Linux (latest release was in 2014).

How much work should I be expecting for installing Arch with Gnome?

So weird issue I'm running into with a friend.
Walked him through installing Arch, the only real difference in our setups is that he's using nvidia for graphics whereas I'm running intel.

While trying to get multihead support working properly (wasn't using his primary monitor as the primary monitor, but otherwise Plasma was booting fine) a typo was made to xorg.conf. This rendered it unbootable for him. It would visibly hang on Cleaning Blocks, when he removed quiet from GRUB it'd reach the target graphical user interface and then hang.

So my first instinct was to have him chroot and remove the xorg.conf and nvidia settings, which he did. Reinstall the nvidia drivers, which he did, and blacklist his igpu drivers, which he also did (along with nouveau for good measure).

All of this still renders the same results, failing to launch his graphical user shit.

Am I missing something with nvidia setups?

>>59012855
net install, minimal.

debian has an installer, packages are binary. It's very simple to use and has more of a focus on free software.

arch and gentoo, the installer is you. greater focus on customisation. requires a more hands on approach to managing them.

there's nothing you can do in gentoo/arch you can't do in Debian though.

>>59013052
Not much, better use a """real""" distro like Source Mage GNU/Linux.

Is there a way I could rice my init loading with a video/gif file playing?

>>59013144
You could probably make an init script for runlevel 1.

>>59013077
Is it easy to install like ubuntu

I've got a neglected laptop running arch that I wanted to dust off for a project. I tried to run pacman -Syu and it gives me a lot of failure about some PGP signatures not matching even though I've just downloaded them. Well, system update isn't exactly mandatory, so I try to install the utils I want and one of them gives the same kind of error.

Do I need to run an update on my keyring first or something? How would I do that?

>>59013430
Have you tried pacman -Syy? I haven't used Arch in a few years, so I don't know if I can help you very much.

>>59013452
Fixed with google. Sorry for the inconvenience.

The solution was simply to update archlinux-keyring first.

>>59013474
Glad you managed to solve it.

try it brother, it's amazing
can't await the first release

>>59013505
forgot to quote >>59011978

>>59013430
>I tried to run pacman -Syu
>it gives me a lot of failure
That's normal.

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>59013411
https://sourcemage.org/Install/Chroot

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>>59013640
Source Mage GNU/Linux

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>>59013640
Source Mage GNU/Linux

I feel retarded
I'm trying to test out bspwm
when I select it at lightdm login, it just shows my background and a cursor, and I can't do anything.

>>59013798
I'm sorry, anon.

What does this mean?

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenGL-1.4-i915-Now-Default

Sounds like a step backwards. I think my laptop uses the i915 driver (Thinkpad T410). Does that mean I'm affected by it?

Why is Fedora so insanely shitty at KDE? Like, it's completely broken. Arch KDE just werks, but Fedora KDE doesn't even have working window buttons.

Has anyone gotten a PS3 controller to work as a remote control with Kodi? The controller is paired, but kodi won't recognize it.

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Hello,

long time ubuntu user here.
What reasons are there to switch to arch? I am not convinced right now

>>59013993
>more recent packages and kernels
>more options for Desktop Environments
>AUR
>you might learn more about your OS

That's about it.

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Is it worth changing the default governor on a desktop system with a newer Intel CPU from powersave to performance?
According to the wiki, both support dynamic scaling, so it wouldn't necessarily always run on max frequency on performance, is that right?

>>59013993
Fun with fixing your system after upgrading.

ok so on my arch linux machine i am having to type "xrdb ~/.Xresources" each time i reboot to get urxvt to look right. thing is, theres 2 lines in my .xprofile, the first sets caps lock to super, and the second is the xrdb line, which up until a few weeks ago since i got rid of infinality worked fine. Now i am manually having to type it in. Is there a fix for this?

>>59014541
oh and the first line to set caps to super works fine, but it wont run xrdb for some reason.

>>59010643

#!/bin/env sh
find /folder/one | xz > /folder/listing/one.txt.xz
find /folder/two | xz > /folder/listing/two.txt.xz
# ...

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post your GNU/Linux memes

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>>59014714

>>59014541
Are you using a DE or just a WM?

>>59011143
saved

>>59015082
xfce4

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>>59014714

Can someone explain if it is actually GNU/Linux or just Linux? If I'm using a DE unrelated to gnome, what GNU stuff am I running that makes it deserve the name GNU?

>>59015207
anything gtk, anything compiled with GNU C library, anything that uses gLib, if your default shell is bash, if you are using GCC, if Linus is using GCC...

>>59015149
It should autoload .Xresources without you having to call it.

Have you read http://www.archviet.com/2013/07/01/how-to-load-xresources-correctly/

>>59015229
I am not seeing a solution here, it doesn't load automatically and I am using lightDM

>>59015229
and it started happening around the time i removed infinality

>>59015283
So did I, but I encountered no such thing. Sorry can't really help you, but I followed this when I removed it
https://gist.github.com/cryzed/e002e7057435f02cc7894b9e748c5671

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>>59014714

>>more options for Desktop Environments
Ubuntu's repositories have all the desktop environments Arch has. In fact, you can use Unity on Ubuntu without much hassle, while on Arch you have to replace libraries from the official repository with pathed ones.

>>59015452

Meant for >>59014009

>>59013728
Thanks man

>>59013993
It's a rolling release distro and pretty stable. On Debian und Ubuntu machines I've often experienced that everything breaks when upgrading to the next release. Arch has never broken on me in my 6 years of using it. In fact I've carried the same SSD with the same install of Arch over to my new PC without changing anything and I'm using it on two laptops.

>>59003623
pls help /g/

Can writing to the EFI partition brick a laptop?

I got an UEFI laptop and wanted to dualboot, steps:
- disabled secureboot
- booted from live-
- installed system to extra partition-
- Do you want to install GRUB? Yes
- Do you want to enable EFI boot? Yes
- Mount EFI partition as /boot as requested
- System installs everything goes fine
- Reboot

Now it hangs on the vendor logo. Nothing works: with/without USB, Escape (normally menu), F10 (normally BIOS), F9 (normally boot order)...
Is this fixable?

>>59015779
LOOL is it a samsung on a foxcon board?

>>59015803
HP actually, I dont think its foxconn

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>>59014714

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>>59015779
if you actually fucked your firmware, then it won't be easy but might be possible.

First make sure it's fucked:remove any driver (internal hdd included) and try again to boot from usb.

Second check if your mobo has some kind of recovery feature: some products allows you to enter in an "emergency" mode which will allow you to load a firmware to flash via sftp protocol.

Finally, as last stand, find a jtag, open your laptop, connect the jtag to the firmware EEPROM, find a suitable firmware for your mobo (i.e. the one provided by the manufacturer), and try to flash it.

>>59015995
>sftp protocol.
tftp

>>59000432

It doesn't matter what /home/nr/share's permissions are if they can't read /home/nr/.

>>59015779
>- Mount EFI partition as /boot as requested
Wrong.
Reinstall.

new content on /t/ >>>/t/757546

>>59015207
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.en.html

I'm trying to get youtube-dl to place the files it downloads into a certain folder. I'm using a bash script which has a cd to a caching folder, and then it gets further processing. Let's call this folder "ytdl".

When I leave out the cd, it plops the file next to the script youtubefile.mp4.part while downloading, just a .mp4 when done.

When I add a cd, the program still works , but I can't find the .part or the .mp4 in the ytdl folder.Even worse, I can't find it anywhere.

How can I fix this, or where is can I find these files in limbo?

>>59016620
1) use absolute paths to prevent headaches, the youtube-dl's option "-o" will let you choose a destination folder

2) to find the file:

find / -name *".mp4.part" 2>/dev/null

Why haven't you installed Source Mage yet, /fglt/?

>>59016769
Gentoo has been around a lot longer, has a better community and generally is the better choice when it comes to source-based GNU/Linux distributions.

>>59016827
Not an argument.

>>59016833
Fuck off Kevin.

Just switched from xfce4 to i3 on Arch, holy shit this is amazing. DEs were a mistake

>>59016728
All of the sudden it does show up, haven't really changed anything.

>>59016620
post code

>>59016928
you'll come back, trust me

>>59016842
Fuck off Kevin.

>>59016973
Why would I? There's literally nothing I am wanting for

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>>59016928
cool stroy, bro

>>59016935
some file managers don't always refresh the content of the folder for "external" changes, maybe this is what happened.

>>59017010
>file managers
People still use these?

>>59003623
>>Learn the command line:
>http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Teaches lots of crap. Wouldn't recommend.

>>59017279
care to elaborate? I used that to learn a lot when I was starting out with GNU/Linux and found it very helpful, but of course I was a beginner so wouldn't have noticed if there was something wrong with it

>>59003623
So I'm new to GNU/Linux.
Can anyone tell me why every click I do within my OS takes a few seconds to register?

>>59017306
he fall often in common bash errors:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

In previous threads you will find several anons complaining about bad practices and outdated/deprecated/unnecessary/bad syntax used in that book.

>>59017513
It was my GPU driver. It wasn't installed properly

>>59017726
>It was my GPU driver. It wasn't installed properly
Linux in a nutshell.

>>59016842
Fuck off Kevin.

>>59003623
What's the most offensive Linux out there?

>>59017751
Linux Mint

What's the verdict on the CK patchset? I know it's probably autistic placebo, but I run it anyway.

>>59017780
Downloading as we speak.

>>59017964
Doesn't look like placebo, is just happens to be bleeding edge, not everybody is into that.

>>59017964
It is more responsive then the vanilla kernel.
Its also a realtime kernel and having realtime access is good for video/audio

>>59018158
>>59018141
Alright, then I'll keep using it and pretend I'm not an autist.

>>59017964
>CK patchset?
What does it even change?

Everytime I want to run my code I have to navigate slowly through a long filetree to reach the file I'm after, meanwhile on Windows I can easily reach commonly used maps. Is there a fast way to navigate to commonly used maps on Linux aswell using the terminal?

>>59018321
>Linux-ck is a package available both in AUR and in the unofficial repo-ck repository that allows users to run a kernel and headers setup patched with Con Kolivas' ck patchset, including MuQSS (Multiple Queue Skiplist Scheduler, pronounced mux) which replaces Brain Fuck Scheduler (BFS), his previous work. Many Arch Linux users choose this kernel for its excellent desktop interactivity and responsiveness under any load situation.

>Ck patchset is designed for desktop/laptop use but not for servers. It provides low latency environment and works well for 16 CPUs or less.

>>59018363
You cold use an alias, for example, put something like

alias qux='cd /foo/bar/baz'

in you

.bashrc

.

new thread
>>59017764

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is OpenSuse good? I wanted to try it, I used linux mint in the past, but I want something different.

>>59018417
It's sickening that -zen shit is in abs whereas -ck is only in aur.

>>59018557
If you are interested in KDE it's definitely the way to go.

Otherwise there are better distros

>>59019218
I find best to install a distro that isn't centered around a specific DE.

Something like Arch, or Gentoo, or a minimal install of Debian or Fedora.

>>59018557
both have a green logo, so you cannot go wrong with opensuse.

>>59019218
now surpassed by kde neon

>>59019298
>now surpassed by kde neon
Might be.

Does KDE neon use opensuse patches for KDE integration? Like Firefox?

>>59019308
I'm sure it does. If kubuntu does it so does kde neon.

>>59019218
Actually, i love KDE.
It's the rolling release (tumbleweed) usable? Or is it safer to go with the regular release (leap)?
I'm gonna put this on my pc.

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Reminder that the word "freetard" was forced by trolls suspected to be paid by Microsoft.

>>59021638
That doesn't invalidate the label, does it?

>>59022263
Microsoft wants everyone to use windows so they can tap into our brains.

>>59022277
Where can I download Windows?

>>59022303
microsoft.com

>>59022665
I do not want to pay.

How can Microsoft tap into my brain?

>>59022694
You can _download_ windows for free from Microsoft.

Activating it is a different story. Sites like youpass.com will sell you win10pro keys for next to nothing if you pretend to be french enough.

>>59022818
Downloading as we speak.

How long does it take on average to go balls deep, and replace everything?

>>59003623
I wanted very badly to make the switch to ubuntu, but there are no drivers for my wirelessnetwork adapter (WNA3100 from netgear) and every installation guide instructs you to use the console to download things from the internet, but I cannot because the wireless adapter simply doesnt work, I've tried to use ndiswrapper and wine to no avail. Wat do

what's the difference between source m*ge and gentoo with a few aliases?

>>59023037
You mean Source Mage?

>>59022899
about twenty minutes probably. Provided you know basic stuff like how partitions work. If you don't know that stuff, use google, and you'll be finished with an easy install like mint, debian or ubuntu in under an hour.

In arch, is the preinstalled vi vim or vi?

>>59023037
Less python, more bash, untampered packages, easier to create packages, more bleeding edge. Am I forgetting something?

Friendly reminder to try the easiest way to check if the NSA is spying on your computer
>open new terminal
>strings < /dev/urandom | grep nsa -i

When I'm in i3, several programs, such as steam and deluge, put their icons in the bar on the bottom of the screen. How do I disable this?

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Hey /fglt/, retard here

I've used ubuntu a fair a bit, I got pretty used to it and I liked it, I was using xubuntu, and I liked XFCE, also played around with OpenBox on it

But I've been wanting to install something on my desktop, And I'd like to have it as c o m f y and stable as possible. As Neet-ish as it sounds, I like fucking around with my distro, but I dont like _fixing it_

I don't do too much on it either, Just web-browsing / music for the most part. Should I stick with (x)ubuntu or should I try something new, if so suggest me something.

Tried Xubuntu here, didn't quite like it since I felt like I had to work around a lot of stuff to get the GUI I wanted. Thinking of moving onto something like Debian or Antergos.


What would you guys recommend? What's the difference between dpkg and pacman?