/wt/ watch thread

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>fine watch

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Silicon super high beat escapements that aren't unobtanium, when?

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Whatcha guys think?

What is the best watch for under 100 dollars?

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Just ordered this with a white and blue nato

>>58952441
Looks good man. A little big on you but not too bad i guess

>>58952571
Depends on what you're into, seiko 5's are really nice imo. >>58952571

>>58952955
Woops meant >>58952920

>>58952441
Eco drive is a great movement.

>>58952955
Is there like a seiko 5 guide or something I can see a list of all the models but I dont know which one is the best.

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>>58953013
The current line all use the same 2 movements, 7s26 and 7s36. Basically the best one is wichever you think looks the best

>>58952441
wear it in good health, /g/ent.

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Heyo I won a bid on a quarter repeater chronograph with triple date and moonphase pocket watch movement. For as far as eBay pictures go I think both the base movement, the repeater and tiple date have all their parts intact.
Ill cont. once I get it on my bench

>>58953446
Be sure to show the movement once you get it m8. Got plans to put it in a case?

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>>58953486
Im not sure, I think the movement itself is already 42mm, a recased version is gonna be fuckhueg but If i could resell it at a small profit would be cool, and it would be a nice practice in casemaking.
Pic related, you can see the chronograph is missing all important parts.

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Hey /g/uys. I posted about my grandads old ebel in the last thread. I got some pics now.
How much do you think it will cost me to have it fixed?

>>58953610
>you can see the chronograph is missing all important parts.

That's unfortunate. I'd suggest getting replacement parts made, but it's most likely more effort than it's worth.

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>>58953624

>>58953624
Looks very cool.
Depends on what needs fixing i guess

>>58953636
The hands seem to be bent upwards, keeping the seconds hand from moving. I think the mechanism itself is intact.

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just here to trigger the auto fags.

>>58953684
It shouldnt be too bad then. I'd say 20-40$ depending on how much your watchmaker charges for his services. Go down and ask him anon

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snibbeti snab

>>58953631
>getting parts made
>not making them yourself
I think its a fairly common ebauche, so I might be able to find replacements for the missing wheels/cams. I might try to reproduce the chronograph bridge myself, it looks pretty feasible.

>>58953624
>$200 if you go to any standard watchmaker today. <$50 if you find some Slav watchmaker who doesn't care, either locally or ship it to one.

Disassembling everything, sticking it in a ultrasonic cleaner, and reassembling it with oil isn't that ridiculously difficult unless it needs components replaced, which is probably better then to swap the whole movement. Nor is measuring out a new crystal of the correct diameter.

The issue is the only mechanical watches requiring servicing today are expensive luxury ones where they demand they remain in perfect shape to preserve their value, not just their functionality, requiring the expensive replacement of components and other detailing unnecessarily. There is no watchmaking for the everyman anymore because replacing whole watches is easier.

I had the chutzpah to ask a local watchmaker, and among other things included in the cost was a non-negotiable replacing of the crown. This particular watch I have the crown is worn and shitty, but still functional enough for an automatic watch. Fuck off.

>>58953684
If that's the case get a hand puller yourself or an improvised tool and try to correct them. If the movement runs okay after then you're in great shape.

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>rolex
pfft

>>58953840
Cool. Got any plans to refinish the parts?

>>58948319
>Implying it's hard to drive a stepper motor

>>58953098
Aren't there seiko 5s with 4r36 though
The seiko 5 sports that are a bit more expensive

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>>58953868
Probably, but it does take a lot of time and the electroplating is expensive so i'll see what Im gonna do with it once i get it. Pic related is a slavshit movement I put geneva stripes and perlage on.

>>58954007
There might be i'm not sure.
If your the same guy i responded to i think you're missing the point, the "best" seiko 5 is the one you like the most. Its like saying "Whats the best hat in the world?" Its subjective. Just get a watch that appeals to you

I think we should add a pastebin for watches under $100 since that question gets asked 3 times every thread

Or just write:

>poorfag?
Seiko 5 or Vostok

It is always me Seiko 5 or Vostok that is the question.

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Most underrated movement finishing.

>>58954140
Seiko 5 is the answer

>>58954144
Why?

>>58954035
i still find hand worked SMD to be more mesmerizing and impressive

>>58954146
They look better

>>58954143
I'm not a fan of how it looks, but at least it's something other than cotes de geneve

>>58953013
Watchsleuth has a seiko 5 finder

>>58954123
This tbqh

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>get my first self bought quartz
>stop wearing my mechanicals

It feels good to get detoxified from that overengineered and unpractical meme technology

>>58954143
I just can see chinkshit on that picture.

>>58952571
Quartz: id go with an easy rider or gshock dw5600
Mechanical: seiko 5

>>58952571
Sei-killyourself or Omegle Spergmaster

>>58954359
*easy reader/timex weekender

>>58954371
>Omegle Spergmaster
>under 100 bucks

Kek, where can I get that?

>>58952402
Youre joking, but i guarantee some digital monstrosity with those proportions will hit the market in the next 5-10 yrs

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>>58954417
from the 80s pls

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>>58954479
hi

>>58954350
It was chinkshit before chinkshit existed, not to mention that's a railroad approved model, meaning it has actual quality.

>>58954371
You just wanted to say omegle spergmaster didnt you

>>58954581
There's that Rololex and Juggalo Lel-Culture

>>58954337
>projecting your regret from buying a shit watch this much

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>>58954636
>tfw no Lolex Goyster Perpetual-Butthurt JUST Superlactating Cuckometer Officially Castrated

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Not completely watch related but I sanded down the handle of my Opinel and I'm currently refinishing with a shellac polish. I have a bunch of the stuff laying around, way too much for just gluing escapement jewels in place, so I decided to give my knife a watchfag finish.

>>58954823
Cringe.png

>>58954823
haHAA

>>58954870
>>58953681
Stop trying to derail these threads retards. Make your own shit.

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>>58952370
>fine sub

>>58954964
Knives are watches anon.

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>>58954870
Opinel is the Vostok of knives.
Best value possible at a very low price.

>>58955162
but why a knife? your own prick can't do it?

>>58955189
I personally use it to open packages and boxes without needing to use a kitchen knife, no need to be so salty.
It also makes a good outdoors knife.

>>58955162
They do seem to be modded as much as Vostoks.

>>58955226
Indeed, at that price point there's nothing to loose. I'd mod mine but I don't have any experience working with wood myself and since the version I got is painted blue I don't think it's a good idea either.

>>58955264
As soon as I get an acceptable shellac finish I'll do a Vostok + Opinel pic too. Luckily today is Amphibia day for me.

>>58952373
Already there, check the more outlandish designs by Oechslin at Ulysse Nardin.

>>58953849
>The issue is the only mechanical watches requiring servicing today are expensive luxury ones
What? Are Speedmasters considered expensive luxury watches?

Somewhat expensive, yes, but luxury?

>>58954337
>wearing a McDonald's™ Happy Meal toy

>>58953728
Not them, just curious: what functions do you use?

>>58953849
I repair watches and I want to dropkick you in the dick for all the misinfo you crammed in a single post.

Can anyone recommend a decent cheapish timegrapher?

>>58955512
Build one.

What's the lifetime expectancy of a watch? I have my eyes on a 2001 Seamaster that looks in good shape but thats already 16 fucking years and counting.

>>58955561
Chinkshit: one year
Casio: five to ten years without significant wear, then a few decades while looking like shit
Soviet watches and better made Russian Amphibias: 70 years to forever, also parts never run out
Rolex: a few centuries to forever
vintage Omega: see Rolex
Omega co-axial: a few months after missing the recommended service date

>>58955615
This one is neither vintage nor co-axial though (2531.80.00).

>>58955391
Spending "somewhat" large amounts of money on 'wants' is a luxury, yes.

>>58955494
Thanks for correcting me, oh wait.

>>58955632
That's all the time I got for babies like you.

Seiko 5 or Orient Bambino?

>>58955666
bambino is a dress watch. Seiko 5 comes in many styles

also
>checked

>>58955666
Seikillyourself or Orient Bamboozled

>>58955494
So are you one of the pretentious watchmakers that shit on everything that isn't a Swiss meme?

>>58955757
On the contrary dumdum, nip and slav 4 life.

And people do service their old 7025 Seiko 5's, and we do have a lot of movement swaps for Jap quartz, a lot of times people decide to preserve their beat old quartz watch, and have us swap the movement.

>>58955840
Yeah? And how much does that run them?

>>58955391
Do you know what luxury is?
Spending $5k on something that does literally nothing better than a $10 equivalent is extreme luxury.

>>58955561
Forever as long as it's serviced regularly and there are parts available.

>>58955896
Won't do the currency conversion, but about 60% of a new gray market S5. They're simply attached to their old S5 and why shouldn't they? I don't like the idea of things as personal as watches being disposable products with limited lifespans.

>>58955002
No. Knives are Knives and watches are watches. This is a watch thread so please fuck the fuck off

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>>58956071
You literally can't be any more wrong. Watches are technology, knives are technology, so this means knives=watches.

So back to discussing watches: If the Opinel is the Vostok of sharpwatches than what is the Higonokami? The F-91W?

>>58956112
That some really interesting logic right there anon. Does this mean i can tell the time on my knife? No.
>This thread is about the appreciation of watches
/g/ is about technology, /wt/ is about watches.
Go make a knife general and stop derailing the watch threads, retard.

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>>58956028
>currency conversion
So I'm guessing you're not American? Sorry, but servicing cheap enough to cover less-than-luxury watches is extremely hard to find here. We're all just consumerism whores. See also: Apple.

>>58956112
Seiko 5, obviously. F-91W is a Douk Douk.

>>58956071
>Fuck the fuck off
I like that

>>58956162
A lot of the cost of servicing is simply work hours, so of course it's going to be more expensive in Murrica where wages are higher.

Also everything below ETA 28xx is not worth it from a money standpoint, it comes down to sentiments. Nothing wrong with that really, I've dumped so much in repairing my own vintage 18000 and 21600bph watches that I could have long bought a modern Swiss automatic, even if all my costs are just the materials.

>>58956150
You are wrong. I'm beginning to suspect you're either trolling or just plain stupid.

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>>58956071

Oh, you want some knife plus watch pictures?

>>58956261
YES thank you keep those seikos comming

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While I've always been impressed by the complexity and difficulty of creating grand complications, I've never actually found any grand complications watches desirable, until now.

The Vacheron Constantin Celestia Astronomical 3600 is really neat. I like the single minded focus on astronomical complications:

https://youtu.be/297-ovrU3UM

>>58956252
Damn that's the most fedora picture I've seen in a while. How come your mechanical keyboard you carry wherever you go is not in the frame?

>>58956250
"You are wrong" lmao this dude is hilarious.
So tell me again, how are knives the same as watches?

>>58956317
Too bad it only works on Earth. When space tourism to the Moon and Mars becomes a thing I hope I'll still be alive to see the face of the rich assholes when they realize they bought a one world-only watch.

On the other hand I can't wait to see dual Earth-Mars time mechanicals to be a thing.

>>58956372
I don't know, tell me why they aren't. Burden of proof is on you.

>>58956432
I think we both know what this is by now :) Have a nice day anon.

>>58956410
we won't live to see that. we'll probably kill this planet and ourselves long before this happens with the current trend of trumpism cucks denying climate change.

also what is hand winding.

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>>58956354
Because a Unicomp Ultra Classic is not very portable. I also left out my fountain pens because they don't fit the watch plus knife theme.

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>>58956317
Holy shit thanks for the share that's disgustingly beautiful

H..how much does it cost?

>>58956497

About $1,000,000 USD. It took them five years of research to design it. They've made ONE.

>>58956317
just thinking the amount of input you have to put in makes me tired already

sunrise and sunset probably has to be done manually

>>58956488
>>58956261
>>58956252
>>58956112
>>58955162
>>58954870
>>58953681
So what do you guys do with these? Do you just cut alot of paper? Genuinely curious, i dont really get it

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>>58956317
>3 weeks power reserve

>>58956317
Imagine puting that on a $5 Bond nato strap, pure class.

>>58956509
That's actually pretty cheap in that case, IF they only made one. The salary alone for an engineer or two over 5 years would cross the million mark easily.

>>58956509
Crikey has anyone bought it?

>>58956550
they're literal edgelords

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>>58955162
My Opinel and Vostok.

Opinel just got a few coats of shellac, and I'm in between trying to mirror-polish the blade. Already sanded down the manufacturing marks, so now it's all brushed the fuck up, but not yet polished up.

For the Vostok it's modded up the ass with NATO for every day of the week, SE bezel, Neptune hands with superluminova, and the third dial of its life, but I still haven't replaced the terrible lume job I did. At least it's bright as fuck.

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>>58956550

I carry pocket knives every day and usually end up using them for breaking down cardboard and paperboard boxes, opening clamshell packaging, food prep in place of a paring knife, occasionally zip ties, occasionally rope, etc.

>>58956550
Do you own more than one watch? What for?

There's your answer. Nice things are nice.

>>58956558
Kek if someone died in the woods with a fully wound watch on their wrist they'd have stopped stinking by the time it stopped.

>>58956250
Exactly, it's not worth it, and that's the problem. I'm not seeing what your disagreement is. It's not enough that luxury watches are expensive and are expensive to service, they have usurped everyone and everything below that. In China and elsewhere they hire people off the street to train to assemble watches. I don't need Rolex-quality servicing, yet that is all that is available unless you have a friendly old Slav nearby who doesn't give a fuck.

>>58956558

I can't believe the movement is only 8.7mm thick with 26 complications and 6 barrels. It's madness, really.

>>58956669
Well for instance we give a guarantee for every watch we service. If we do a halfjob on some old Seiko 5 or Pobeda it's our money and our good name.

>>58955626
If it's been serviced recently then go for it or be prepared to service it yourself

>>58956250
>>58956669

This whole discussion between you two makes me really appreciate how lucky I am to be able to get three handers serviced for $150 by a great watchmaker. Apparently this is exceedingly rare.

>>58956698
Lol, get on a plane and come to Bumfuckistan, we do simple three-handers for $50-60.

Unless it's a Longines, TAG, Tissot or something. Even if they're just generic Swatchshit with unmodified ETA we make them pay out the ass for the brand name alone.

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>>58956645
I totally get pocket knives, those can be very handy
>>58956661
Well a watch is a nice accesory, its the only jewellery a man can wear (imo). I use different watches to match different clothes. I think they look good on people. You might as well have a katana collection if you wanna collect big sharp knives just to look at, but thats considered super autistic right? I honestly feel like you're flexing your katana collection when posting these.

>>58957019
I have a Hingonokami for comfy EDC. I have an Opinel to cut shit, modding, eating and because I can. A soviet military pocket knife is on the way because slavboo. Might get a Mercator and a Victorinox too because fuck you that's why.

There's literally no reason I have so many watches either. I collect nice things because they're nice.
>I use different watches to match different clothes
Lol, while you try to find a matching nato for the band of your fedora, I'll be wearing an F-91W with a suit, what do you think of dem apples, kid?

Looking at the Tissot Visodate. Is the ETA 2836-2 a good movement?

>>58956693
I don't give a fuck. I see it the same as any other scammy "protection plan" places sell for electronics or other goods and services to clueless customers.

Perform the services as agreed, show me the timegrapher results, and let me bear the risk thereafter because I know exactly what garbage watches I own.

This is exactly why I am taking it up myself to deal with this shit, because the 'luxury' of paying to hold you accountable isn't optional, especially for how little I wear an individual watch to ever uncover such a service flaw during the protection period.

Precisely that, even this generic ETA I have isn't worth it. I'll get some fucking clone movement brand new to swap with. Fuck you.

I would gladly pay you your rate, even more depending, if you were here though.

>>58957092
>because I can
>because slavboo
>because fuck you that's why
>because they're nice
>no one even asked why
You could nearly smell the insecurity in the air.

>>58957206
afaik its chronometer certified which has gotta be worth something


why not get a sarb at that price range fampai?

>>58957092
>I'll be wearing an F-91W with a suit
You use an opinel to eat with?
You carry a 10cm japanese flip knife every day?
I really hope this is a bait, because that is honest to god the most fedora post i've seen on here in months

>>58957355
this

>>58957297
You're the one who's projecting hard
>HURR I BET U HAV A KATANA COLLECTON
>U R ONLY ALOW'D TO COLECT WACHES EVRETING ELS IS ATISM
>I WER DIFERANT WACH FOR DIFERANT OCASHAN IM SO SOFISTECATED
>*TIPS at 36000TPH*
Lol, chillax bro, can I collect objects I like? Can I please? Do I have your permission oh Padishah of Aspergers?

>>58957355
I eat at work.
8cm, because legal carry reasons, the Higonokami is so slim and light I literally have to check my pocket to see if I still have it or not.
And collecting steampunk dumbwatches is not fedora?

>>58957343
I already have two Seiko's and my dad's giving me the one he no longer wears. Looking for something different. Also like the Tissot a bit more. Also looking at Bauhaus styled watches as well.

>>58957408
This is me. >>58957355

>SO SOFISTECATED
You're the one talking about wearing a F-91W with your suit.
You're the guy eating your lunch at work with a flip knife.
You can collect whatever you like, but what you like seems to be off the charts autistic.

Great, another general ruined by attention seeking edgelord.

>>58957475
>You're the one talking about wearing a F-91W with your suit.
Hyperbole, you autistic fuck
>You're the guy eating your lunch at work with a flip knife.
It's a peasant knife, that's literally what it's for. And it's not like I eat ice cream with it, I cut my steak and shit.
>You can collect whatever you like, but what you like seems to be off the charts autistic.
Look who's talking. You're literally #TRIGGERED because someone on the internet is doing things differently than you.

>>58952441
I hate cases that look like diver bezels, but don't actually turn. If it weren't for those numerals, I'd like it. Nice mov't tho

>>58957497
Iktfb fucc these knifefag fedoraLords

>>58957527
I'm not triggered, just saying your an odd guy.
You're the one saying fuck you when i asked a genuine question about why you guys collect these things.

>>58957527
Who the fuck eats steak at work?

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Knifefags are the worst.
If there are so many of you, why don't you make a separate thread for it?

>>58957587
No one he's just sperg seeking approval, else we wouldn't be talking about knives in a fucking watch thread.

>>58957571
I gave you a genuine answer. Because nice things are nice.

Now go back.

>>58957587
It was an example, you don't be a rainman either. Also the people who don't feel like eating commoner slop all day every day.

>>58957605
We discussed this already. Knives = watches that have cutting edges.

>>58957527
Just use a normal knife like everyone else u sperglord watches are technology and knives belong in
>>>/k/


And the other anon is "#TRIGGERED" (cringy ass autist) cos you're derailing this thread just kys

>>58956150
I tried telling them this already
>>58957605

>>58957605
>Implying a bunch of the most prolific /wt/ posters aren't knifefags
>Implying the knifefags here don't also post in knife threads on /k/ and /out/

OK.

>>58957622
>Knives = watches that have cutting edges.


This has to be b8 and if it is its fucking quality gg wp

>>58957617
I detect genuine anger.

>>58957625
>>58956150
Get a room you two. Then eat ass.

>>58957622
Either you're going somewhere that serves steak yet mysteriously can't provide you with a proper steak knife, or you're carrying in steak yourself to work to microwave or some shit, either way what the fuck are you doing?

>>58957605
Why not make a separate board for it, oh wait...

>>58955632
He qualified it as expensive luxury. I didn't consider Omega to be in the same class as, say, Vacheron, Patek Philippe or JLC.

>>58955930
>Do you know what luxury is?
Only from second hand really, having spent too many years as a poor researcher. Still, I can appreciate the ingenuity and the craftsmanship that goes into a good mechanical watch.

And 5000 being extreme luxury?

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>>58957640
That's not what I was implying.
Are you retarded?
I also browse /trv/, but that doesn't mean that I post about traveling in /wt/.
That's why the boards are separated. And generals are for further separation of popular sub-topics.
This is basic. Jesus.

>>58956670
How wide is it though

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>>58957673
Again, it was an example, Sherlock, calm down, girls don't find these spergouts cute if you're not Bananadick Cucumberpatch.

>>58957704
Thank you for explaining. But again knives are indeed watches. They just don't have an indicator for time, it's replaced by a cutting edge, but other than that they're completely watches. See Victorinox, they're watchmakers who make both varieties.

>>58957408
>>58957527
>>58957622
>>58957092
This has to be 8/10 bait.

Lets just go back to posting watches

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>>58957748
>But again knives are indeed watches
Stop this meme.
>>>/k/
>>>/out/

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>>58957748
>
But again knives are indeed watches. They just don't have an indicator for time, it's replaced by a cutting edge, but other than that they're completely watches

>>58956410
>space tourism to the Moon and Mars
Today it is 6 months since Buzz Aldrin talked about the Omega Mars watch. Pictures show an Omega employee obscuring Aldrin's sketch. Since then nothing has happened.

In 2.5 years there will be the 50 year anniversary of the first man on the moon. Omega will indubitably do yet another rebrand. Sad.

Somebody please screenshot this whole thing. I'm dying over here

>>58957680
Luxury isn't defined by price.
A $300 watch is a luxury.

>>58957748
>an example
Right. Autistic hobbies are fine if you just admit they're irrational and serve no real purpose instead of this retarded charade of poorly justifying yourself.

>>58957749
This too.

>>58956661
>Do you own more than one watch? What for?
Sure, I need a spare when the other is in for battery replacement.

>There's your answer. Nice things are nice.
Umm.

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>>58957842
>Can't replace own battery

>>58957808
Aldrin will be dead soon, anon. He doesn't have to suffer for long.
>tfw every Apollo astronaut will be dead by the time the Russians return humanity to the Moon

>>58957834
Like watch collecting?

>>58957856
These are the people who have a problem with knives /wt/.

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>>58957748
>they're watchmakers

>>58957878
>Like watch collecting?
Yep.
But you see. This thread is actually concerned with this specific autistic hobby.
You should take your other autistic hobby somewhere else.

>>58952327
Too bad, I like watches, but they are definitely jewelry now, just sucks they seem to be going fedora level. (and smart watches are vape I guess)

>>58957896
Nobody is actually discussing knives seriously anon. Get a grip.

>>58957856
It is an old, comfy quartz and I'll leave this one to someone who knows how to do it. It doesn't cost me too much, and I do it every 6 years or so and he is a nice guy who is happy to talk about horology with a guy who have an interest but a limited budget.

I asked what he had made to qualify and he brought up a wrist watch from his safe. It was interesting and well worth the prince I paid to change battery.

>>58957878
>Like watch collecting?
I don't attempt to justify it personally but this thread is pretty autistic, yes. So maybe you'll understand how you look.

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>>58957919

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So anyway I see a lot of old "SQ" Seiko quartz watches that look like Seiko 5's, only quartz. Does Seiko still make quartz watches like that or is it all mall shit?

Today some gramps brought in an SQ like that, that had a gorgeous domed acrylic crystal even.

Pic not that model

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>>58957985
I never understood the acrylic crystal meme.
It's inferior to sapphire. Why do people like it so much?

So, when a watch states that it's water resistant to 30 meters, can I sue if it fails while swimming in 10ft?
I mean it failed of course.

>>58958029
>cheaper
>doesn't shatter
>easily polished
>different optical qualities
You couldn't look that up yourself?

>>58958061
No because manufacturers forgot what depth ratings are actually supposed to mean.

>>58958029
Aesthetics. Also not as tall bezels. I have a few vintage watches where the dial is at the same level as the case. Also what this guy said >>58958084

Are victorinox actually dog like
>>58957892 said ?

>>58958084
Exactly, it'd fall under false advertising.

>>58958123
Their quartz watches are nice for tool watches. Don't buy ETA shitters though.

>>58958151
3ATM=/=30m WR

>>58958173
>"Imagine a world where virtually all mainstream auto manufacturing companies use Ford engines. Chevrolet, Chrysler, Toyota, Nissan, Audi, Volkswagen, Kia, Honda, Mazda, Hyundai, BMW — all of them source their motors from Ford. Only a few high-end brands with extremely deep pockets and long traditions, like Mercedes, Bentley, Ferrari, and Rolls Royce, make their own power plants. The rest, Ford’s competitors, buy engines from Ford and put their own names on the valve covers."

Is that a decent analogy on why etas are considered doggu or is there something I'm missing

>>58958190
A lot of watches say 3ATM/Bar (30m 100ft) WR

>>58958210
But this already happened.
>VW engines in Skoda, Bugatti and Seat
>Audi engines in Lambos
>Renault engines in Dacias
And so on, but I can only name Yuropoor examples.

>>58958210
>Is that a decent analogy on why etas are considered doggu or is there something I'm missing
Yes there's that and the fact that outside of modified ETAs made by higher end companies like Breitling they're almost 100% machine made, assembled, and regulated in the cheapest materials and shittiest machining they can get away with. Beyond just the snobbery reasons of disliking this, it also generally means you're going to get shitty accuracy and the watches that they're thrown in aren't even worth the cost of servicing them.

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Just got this bad boy 2 days ago. Best 45 dollars Ive spent.
Now im waiting on a mesh band.

>>58958385
Nice wrist knife, very good factory edge for $45.

>>58957206
I used to love the Visodate until I discover how thick it was. Doesn't it bother you?

>>58958210
Thats about right.

Personally, i have nothing against eta movements. The 2824 and 7750 are good calibers. Nothing special, but solid movements.

As long as the price is relative. A company like Kobold that puts a 7750 in a basic case, then charges three grand and cocncocts a bullshit history to sell it is watchmaking sin.

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Hope you're doing well this evening, gentlemen

>>58958452
Even the 7750 is a $100 movement and honestly paying more than like $500 for a watch with an ETA/Valjoux movement is criminally retarded.

>>58958061
Nope because the use the word "Resistant" not water "proof"

>>58958495
This. Strip the chrono parts off a 7750 and it looks like a Citizen 82xx. The V7750 was meant for a mass produced chrono movement when they though cheap automatic chronographs will be the nest best thing. The only reason Swatch killed off the L5100 and not the Valjoux is that it looks better through a display caseback. The Lemania 5100 is a great movement but it's ugly as sin.

>>58958458
>tfw this is impossibe to find in the UK bar for £120+ on ebay

>>58958536
When they say they are "resistant" down to 30m, it means that it will prevent water from entering until 30m. Just like something fire resistant for 30min will last 30min before it burns away.

>>58958495
If they modify the base eta and/or do some decorative/finishing work, its okay to charge more. But yeah, it shouldnt be a lot more than that.

The worst though, is when a company will take an eta, modify it very little or engrave the rotor, and then give it their own prorietary name to pass it off as in house.

The most classless thing you can do with a watch is pretend its something its not.

>>58958614
>The most classless thing you can do with a watch is pretend its something its not.
inb4: *AUTISTIC SCREECHING* -t. butthurt rep owners

>>58958547
If you've got a F.Hinds near, they sell seiko 5s for about 60/80 quid.
It's the only place in the U.K. that seem to sell them.

I have a cheap watch that recently broke but I really like the way it looks so I wanted to open it up and attempt a repair but for the life of me I cant get the damn back plate off. I used an eyeglass screwdriver and a knife but neither worked. Any tips on popping that plate off?

>>58958640

"Fake accessories equal a fake person." Thats kind of a spergish old saying, but theres truth to it.

>>58958817
I can understand "homages" slightly more as they don't slap the fake label on. The Rider is slightly different than the Antea as the date is offset

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Thoughts on this? I could pull off a 34mm watch, I have bitch wrists but huge arms.

>>58958862
>I can understand "homages" slightly more as they don't slap the fake label on.

Honestly people that buy "homages" take the tastelessness of people who buy outright gook fakes but insist on paying more money so that it has a smiling fish slapped on the logo instead.

>>58958581
I heard somewhere that yes, a 30m wr watch would be fine in a 10ft pool. But splashing and moving your arms causes a change in pressure that could breach the seal.

Is that true? Even if it is, i dont think i would start dunking a calatrava or a speedmaster.

>>58958892
I wore a 35mm Timex for years and I have bitch wrists too. It looks fine. It's infinitely better to go small than to get something too big.

>>58958701
>tfw closest F.Hinds is 2 hours away

every half decent thing has to be near london the only thing at my local mall is fossil DW and gucci and it makes me wanna kms when I see people In there the best they have are citizens

>>58958899
Yes. Pressure is pressure.
High pressure showers are a common problem, they will tip though seals.

>>58958862
Its definitely better than an outright fake, but at the price of, say, one of those Invicta Submariners, theres plenty of other watches with a unique design. Id rather go that route.

>>58958892
I like that watch.

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>>58958977

The green is pretty and the markers remind me of the milgauss line. Maybe even the grills know rolex. Not my fave brand but what am I wearing a watch for.

For water resistance these are the general rules.

30m: wash your hands
50m: might be able to shower with it if it has a screw down crown (rare)
100m: swimming/snorkeling
200m+: scuba diving

I wonder though, the original submariners were only rated to 100m. If you stayed within the approved 40m max range, could a gmt master technically be used for scuba diving?

>>58959054

I shower with my 300m rated Aquaracer

My ears hurt when I dive under one meter of water

I am the modern Jaque Cousteu

>>58959095
Nice blog, anon.

>>58959054
The fact that you have to have 100m "Reistance" to go 1/10th the depth is dumb as fuck.

>>58958355
>VW engine in Bugatti
I don't think there are many parts, if any, that are shared with a VW engine. Yes the design was based on a VW one, but it's really not a VW engine.
>audi engine in lambo
it's the other way around
>renault engine in dacia
dacia == renault

and those brands aren't competitors at all.

>>58958458
what model is that? that's a nice looking 5

>>58958495
>you only pay for the movement when buying a watch
please stop this bad meme right now

>>58959192
>The fact that you have to have 100m "Reistance" to go 1/10th the depth is dumb as fuck.

The "water resistance" is based on bars of pressure the sealing can withstand. That is converted to a static water pressure at a certain depth. As actual swimming at a given depth might dramatically increase the actual pressure based on the movement of your arm and the water current, the practical limit is considered much lower.

>>58958892
I think the current Oyster Perpetuals are just great. Not my favourite dial but it's definitely a nice-looking watch.

>>58959251
Yeah bro the Chinese case really seals the deal.

>>58959054
>>58959192

I dont know shit about scuba diving, so im spit balling.

I figure back in 1953, when the sub came out, they werent going as deep as modern divers do.

So as long as you stay in 1953 deep diving range, you should be okay diving with a 100m rated datejust or explorer ii, gmt, i guess?

Yeah its dumb you can only go a quarter of its rating, but the depth isnt the only thing putting pressure on it; you move your arms around, pressure on the seals goes up.

I think rolex underrates the cases though. Theyre pretty tough. You could probs go deeper than youd think.

>>58959054
There's a big difference between 200m and Diver's 200m, which means it complies with ISO 6425.

You don't see it much anymore, but there is also a Diver's 100m.

That being said, submariners were the diving standard before there was a diving standard. That's part of the reason Rolex never went for ISO certification, by the time the certification came about they had already proved themselves.

>>58959331
>I think rolex underrates the cases though. Theyre pretty tough. You could probs go deeper than youd think.

Rolex is one of the only brands that are actually "water proof" in the proper sense of the word as they do actual water pressure tests on their watches to 125% of it's rated depth. Which shouldn't be surprising considering the entire Oyster line is all made of thick 904l steel with screw down cases and crowns.

Whats the best seiko 5?

>>58959266
are you really going to create 10 bar of pressure while swimming?

>>58959465
The one you like the most.

>>58958899
>>58958930
No, the moving water is not in direct line of the seals so the negligible amount of added pressure is negated anyways.

Im just wondering what other peoples favorites are.

>>58958930
...your shower head wouldn't be hitting seals directly unless you started taking it apart

>>58959521
meant for
>>58959512

>>58959528
>your shower head wouldn't be hitting seals directly
Depends which way you're facing

If you do a little googling, youll see plenty of guys swimming with 50m rated speedmasters. Light surface swimming, but its been done.

That being said, i wouldnt do it, unless it was under factory warranty. Too many potential ingresses with the pushers.

>>58959799
Most watch warranties specifically void that type of damage. Meaning if you fuck it, it's you're problem.

What is your biggest watch regret? Could be purchase or whatever

>>58959266
Elaborating on >>58959513
You cannot physically move your arm fast enough in water to add even 1atm worth of additional pressure, not to mention the indirect hit.

>>58959692
No gasket is directly exposed parallel to the contact it has with the case. Also, a shower is not going to have more than a few atm of pressure.

>>58959869
Not aggressively pursuing my dad on watches years ago, he deals in all kinds of collectibles and jewellery etc.. Cheeky bastard got a old rolex oyster perpetual for roughly 350usd and already flipped it, I knew nothing!

SKX 007 or 013 for a 7inch wrist?

I'm not fat but not really fit either.

>>58960017
Any current watches for comparison bcoz how flat your wrist Is also decides shit

>>58959869

Bought a 44mm pilot 2 years ago because I fell for the big watch meme.

>>58960017
the 007 will be fine
i think it looks better than the 13 because they're the same thickness

>>58958210

It depends on which ETA movement, which grade of that movement, and the price being charged for that watch.

I don't have an issue with ~$500 watches with ETA 2824-2s or ~$1,000 watches with ETA 2892-A2s, but when you have companies slapping ETA movements in half assed dial/case/bracelet combos and charging thousands of dollars is when I call bullshit.

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>>58959893
>No gasket is directly exposed parallel to the contact it has with the case
I should have added a winking cat to my post

Whats a very cheap watch for someone with very small wrists.

>>58960156
go to target or walmart

>>58960186
Im looking for a good model not some shitty walmart or target crap.

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>>58959869

Not bidding enough to win the only blue sunburst dialed Seiko Presmatic 5146 I've ever seen. Pic related. Still mad I didn't win that watch.

>>58959240
Snkl23 hodinkee meme watch


It is pretty dank tho senpai ngl

>>58959465
Consult the watchsleuth seiko 5 finder
Damn gr8 tool I'll give u that

Basically whatever suits u best

>>58960200
you said "very cheap," you can get timex's and casios at those stores.

>>58959535
Most popular by a landslide is the snk809 as a great entry level auto then the snzg15 for a bigger one

>>58960156
Auto or quartz
Dressy or casual


This question has been asked so much someone post the poorfag watch guide in the OP as a link

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Thoughts on the Lord Marvel?

I'm looking for a dress watch and stumbled across this beauty of a watch which also should satisfy my hi beat lust.

Any owners, past or present?

Any of yall ni/g/gers got the updated version of pic related

>>58958458
>t. Auschwitz survivor

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>>58960431
Forgot this

>>58960418
Looks perfect is that from suwa or daini?

>>58960418
Could've sworn LM stood for lord matic

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>>58959866
They did put out this chart (probably a few years old)

So what, you can walk around in the shallow end, but not swim?

Youre right, i wouldnt risk it. But if some guy was just chilling in the pool, and the case flooded, and omega didnt do warranty work after putting out this chart, that would be mad niggerish on their part.

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>>58960461
Suwa I believe

Under $700 quality hand winders? What do you look at.

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>>58960418

While it's technically not a member of the dress watch genre, the Lord Marvel is certainly formal enough to work on dressy occasions.

From what I know the 5740 movement is pretty sturdy, so reliability shouldn't be too bad. They were also produced for a LONG time so there are a crapton of them out there, meaning finding a donor for spare parts shouldn't be too hard or expensive in the worse case scenario.

Make sure you do your research on the watch so you don't get scammed though.

>>58960461

The typhoon logo on the dial means it's a Suwa design. Daini produced watches have a lightning bolt logo as in pic related.

>>58960473

Oddly enough, it does. The Lord Marvel name is not related to the LM which stands for Lord Matic, as far as I know.

>>58960447
there is none

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Hey /wt/

I'm looking to buy a watch that looks approximately like the one pictured, and I'm open for advice. I'd like for it to be simple, thin, and I'm perfectly happy with quartz for this one.
Any opinions on Movement watches? I'm also considering >>>Daniel Wellington

>>58960677
2/10

>>58960697
Guess I'm going to /fa/ then

>>58960677
Holy shit the red hand WHY

>>58960707

Don't come back, either, /fa/ggot.

>>58960709
Because dogshit.

>>58958411
not really.
I'm used to wearing a Seiko Kinetic.

Anyone know the water resistance on it? I see people saying it has a 30m WR, but everyone says it shouldn't even be near water.

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>>58960677
DW and MVMT are overpriced quartz dogshit
Look into the Orient Bambino for a mechanical or buy some chinkshit of alibaba ot aliexpress or some shit for the same watch but a fraction of the price


Unless I'm falling for some b8 o fugg

>>58960606
Thanks m8 appreciate the advice. Only own one vintage piece and that's a heirloom so I definitely will be researching long before buying.

>>58960830

I'll see if I can dig up some useful links for you on the Lord Marvels and the 5740 movement later today.

Is there a guide for watch straps?

What's a good 22mm leather strap under 40USD?

>>58960792
I just want a clean white watchface with a cognac brown strap in a body that's thin. Thank you for your suggestion.

I mean haha just a troll :^)

>>58960886
There's nothing wrong with quartz.
try brathwait over DW, as DW is overpriced to hell and back.

>>58960848
Good lad

>>58960883
I don't know maybe read the OP ya dumb cunt

>>58954007
Nope, you are probably referring to the the Seiko SRP series, which are their own line.

>>58960886
Straps are generally very easy to change.

Bracelets, on the other hand are much more varied and often need to be bought specifically for the watch model.

>>58961015
when it says seiko 5 on the dial it's a seiko 5

>>58955391
>t. Trust fund kid

>>58955615
>r missing the recommended service date
What about Seiko or Orient?

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>>58959869
the clown watch

>>58959869
my invicta. thought it was cool as a kid, but I bought a seiko right after. still wear the seiko.

>>58961329
Will have a shitty amplitude after ten years of neglect. Service it and they're back in business. 21600bph means they'll be unbreakable. The old 18000bph slavshits have not only outlived their first owners but will probably us as well.

>>58961329
Degrading oil changes how fast the watch runs. But you could wear most any Seiko or Orient for decades without service before it grinds itself to dust.

>>58952441
pointy case is god awful

>>58961329
>>58961538
Nice then, thanks. Are g-shock more durable in life expectancy terms than standard Casios too?

>>58959054
screw down crown is not required, there's watches rated 100m that do not screw

Question for knifefags whats the opinel knife of watches?

>>58961886
F91w

>>58961937
Opinel knives arent digital shit.

>>58961765
Yes. Particularity if you get one without moving parts (quartz crystal is obviously still moving, but whatever.)

>>58961956
Both can land you in prison. And we are not talking about offending all that is good taste.

>>58961956
OK so they're just shit.

>>58962087
Yeah so maybe Vostok or a Seiko 5?

>>58962101
Those watches aren't shit though.

>>58962113
But they are cheap and good like the Opinel knife the best knife value. I cant decide which of those two watches is the knife though.

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>>58961886

>>58960830

Here is the Seikoholics forum's brand entry for the Lord Marvel 5740C (and it's the C variant you want):

http://seikoholics.yuku.com/sreply/422/3rd-Generation-Lord-Marvel-calibre-5740C-hibeat-36000bph

Please note that, as far as I know, the Lord Marvel was only ever produced with white/off-white, silver, and silver linen texture dials. Any other colors you see are redials and should be avoided.

Also NEVER bid on vintage watches from India, South Korea, China, or anywhere in Asia that is not Japan, really. They are all polished, redialed, frankenwatch monsters looking to rip off the clueless.

Here is a detailed series of photos and description of tear down and service on a 5740C movement:

http://seikoholics.yuku.com/topic/1188/Inside-the-Seiko-caliber-5740c-high-beat

Now spend some time on Google searching for "Seiko" "Lord Marvel" and "Seiko" "5740C" and do your studying so you know what good original condition ones look like and how much they should sell for.

And good luck and happy hunting.

>>58962272
What's the history behind lord marvel seikobro I can't find any on it?

>>58962490

This series gives a good overview of what led to the development of the 3rd generation Lord Marvel:

https://monochrome-watches.com/seikos-affinity-to-hi-beat-movement-part-one/

Basically, the Lord Marvel was an existing mid-range Suwa Seikosha watch (using the 5740A and 5740B calibers) which was then used as the test-bed for Suwa to develop a 36,000 bph movement (the 5740C).

Once the Lord Marvel Hi-Beat had proven itself, they used what they learned in designing the 61xx caliber that powered the Grand Seiko 61GS models.

However, the Lord Marvel model with the 5740C caliber turned out to be a good seller and so Suwa continued to produce it right to the very end of their production of mid-range and up mechanical watches, meaning it was produced from 1967 all the way to ~1978. That's why there's so many of them around.

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What is Seiko's counterpart to the Orient Ray?

I want to get a compact dressy diver from Seiko

New in the watch game and Id like suggestions for a good watch. I'm looking to get an automatic, witch a sapphire crystal and metal band. My price range goes up to about $1000

>>58962674
Golly gee mate great read thanks for the share

Any idea whether daini or suwa made the seiko 5

>>58962744
Orient Star or Seiko SARB017 you ain't gonna get a lot of good Swiss pieces that range

Best looking digital watch?

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>>58963218

>>58962130
It's still he f91w

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Nice

>>58962738
How big? The small one is the SKX013

>>58962822

As far as I know both Suwa and Daini produced Seiko 5 models.

You can read up on the history of the Seiko 5 here:

http://www.seikowatches.com/5sports/seiko5story/index.html

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>>58962861
>Working late
>Feeling kinda down
>Check watch
>+2 in 72 hours

Feels Goodman, SARB017 is running at chronometer levels right now. Can vouch for this one.

That being said I had a lot of trouble with the initial 6R15. I took it into Seiko three times over the course of a year for warranty work before they finally just replaced the entire movement. Ruins the provenance of the watch, but oh well, it will be my secret. 6R15C in, 6R15C out. Nobody will ever know.

>>58963890
See this is what I don't get. The website says it could be +/- 25 but you're saying 2

>>58964247
He also says he sent it in thrice over.

>>58964254
But it got the same movement? Is it chance it happens to be chronometer accuracy?

>>58964271
It's chance that the watch has only gained 2 seconds after 3 days, yes.

>>58964247

To try and keep this simple: There is a big difference between the accuracy rating specified and how fast or slow a specific movement happens to run.

Basically, Seiko specifies that the 6r15c will run between -15 and +25 so that they don't have to spend too much time and money regulating the watch at the factory.

But just because they don't guarantee better accuracy than that, and don't make an extensive effort to regulate the watch to tight specs at the factory, doesn't mean that any individual 6r15 won't run considerably better than the worst possible case.

Beyond that, if you take the time to regulate a 6r15 it will almost certainly be able to be regulated to more like +-5s/d in daily wear and no worse than +-10s/d in any one position.

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>>58964571
>>58964571

>>58964571
>>58964571

Any suggestions on a watch for a sporty 54 year old woman?
Im visiting my mom so I figures I would get her a nice timepiece.
She really wants a smart watch, and I am vonsidering getting her a zenwatch3, but I also want to get her a watch that will look good for whenever she goes out in elegant clothes. Something small, flat.

>>58953865

> posts a rolex anyway