/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

first for get a macbook instead

>still no thinkwiki link right in the OP post
sage@hide

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why cant lenovo into design consistency?

>>58912362
Chiral scrolling works differently so it makes sense that is has a different icon
And that driver is made by synaptics anyway

>>58912434
>>58912362
And I believe the icon on the left shows one finger scrolling and the right one two fingers

>>58912441
but why show it with a differently oriented cursor each time?

>>58912500
Learn how to use and configure the touchpad, there are tons of settings
I only use chiral scrolling since it's the fastest and more accurate. here's a good video about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUFxeZz7qvw

>>58912523
oh shit that actually makes a lot of sense now thanks

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Anybody using SSD Expresscard with their thinkpad?

>>58912562
I didn't even know you could get Expresscard SSD
won't it be stupidly slow? I thought Expresscard only just hit USB 2 speeds

>>58912589
Expresscard is PCIe

>>58912523
Imagine that someone programmed in this shit and only fraction for users will ever know about it

>>58912838
I imagine most people who complain about touchpads don't even know any gestures.

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Hi guys, i have an x230 and the guy who sold me did it with pic related inside, 4GB samsung ram with these specs, and i found it is probably an original part, the answer is, i bought a new module from here

http://amzn.eu/bJz6zEK

will it work in dual channel? i'm really interested in the improvements for the HD4000 but i don't know if there's something i'm missing

Say peeps
How does the lineup of CPUs they generally put in the T420 thinkpads deal with x265 encoded media files?

>>58912883
Should work without any problems
>>58912899
HW decoding is no possible, software decoding should work fine even for 1080p

>>58912562
No because they are really expensive for how little storage they have.

>>58912922
'ppreciate it

Just bought a W510 (q820 real quad w/ht, quadro) for $120 to replace my T420. (integrated sandy dualcore)

Most excited about the fact how I don't have to use the dogshit 1366x768 anymore. Although I am concerned about the pwm on the w510.

Is that pwm flickering problem exclusive to the w510 or does it also appear on the t510?

Anybody have experience with either?

>>58912946
>>58912562
I thought these weren't feasible because the BIOS didn't detect it.

what can you even do with the express card slot?
Putting two usb3 ports is the only think I could come up with

>>58912922
k thanks, i already ordered it so i'll let you know...

if for some strange reason it starts in single channel there's something i can change? most of things i'm reading right now about RAM comes from the early 2000 so there are only 40 yo people talking about black magic.

oh and a video from LinusTT but i lasted 30 seconds of it, he was trying to make me buy a ROG motherboard

>>58912987
PWM is apparently a problem for all T/W 10,20,30 series

I've been using IntelPWMcontrol _x64.exe with 2000Hz for a few months now on my W520 without problems (other than the exe crashing when doing nvidia driver updates, which isn't a real issue)

Find out what panel you're using with AIDA64, then look up the specs to see what frequency it can handle. Also don't launch IntelPWMcontrol multiple times, that will lead to horrible flickering

>>58912998
egpu

>>58912998
External GPU/other PCIe devices
TV card
Sound card
Esata card

>>58913052
thinking about this, do you know how?
googled it a few times but never came with a true solution

>>58913067
>TV card
any that dont need windows only drivers? Would prefer OSX, but linux support is more realistic.

>>58913044
Huh I haven't noticed any flickering on my T420. Maybe because I almost 50% brightness.

The w510 I bought doesn't have integrated unfortunately so I probably can't use the pwm control.

>>58913175
Does it even run at a noticeably low frequency? Move a finger quickly before the screen in a dark room to see the flickering

>>58913067
>External GPU
Only a proof of concept, very poor performance.
>TV card
Windows only.
>Sound card
Why?
>Esata card
Doesn't most thinkpads comes with eSATA?

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Where can I use my thinkpad in public so it can help me get a gf?

>>58913214
>Only a proof of concept, very poor performance.
60fps in overwatch with a 750 ti on my x220 ain't too bad. beats a dgpu from that time at least

(med gfx on the internal screen, high gfx on external)

>>58913227
1. put lots of hipster stickers on the lid
2. go to starbucks

OPTIONAL: paint the thinkpad white

>>58913315
>paint the thinkpad white
add edgy bitten pear sticker

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>>58912562
Very fast and easy way to swap your OS on-the-fly IMO.
I've got two 64 GB ExpressCard/34 SSDs.
One with Windows 8.1 32-Bit, the other with Manjaro 64-Bit, Each OS is on it's own with the HDD for the media files, which formatted ext4 so windows can't "see" it.
Very convenient setup, if you need to use windows exclusive stuff without the issues of dual booting or running VM.

>>58913227
You don't
Only reason my gf complimented to my x230 is because is tiny and it just fucking werks even better than bigger PCs.
But it is ugly and not as user friendly as a macbook.
Girls like macbooks, and surface books I can add. Not thinkpads.

The good news is: you can't break the ice anyway with your laptop so neither a macbook will help you and a thinkpad can't ruin you.

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c o m f y

I'm gonna FrankenPad soon

Thinking of upgrading my X220's 4 GB RAM to 8. What's the best way of picking out RAM? Trying to avoid buying something useless by mistake.

>peel off stickers
>glue remains
>start scrubbing it with alcohol
>10 minutes later
>still some adhesive on the plastic

How the fuck do you guys get rid of this shit?

>>58913501
>>58912562
Thinkpads can't boot from expresscard SSD

>>58914123
bleach and sand paper

>>58914123
goo gone

>>58914229
don't do this it makes mustard gas

>>58913268
I looked into that some time ago and it's really CPU and compatibility limited. If you play only mainstream games it might be ok, but it's not gaymer solution

>>58914181
>Thinkpads can't boot from expresscard SSD
With coreboot,they do.

>>58914081
Saying what i did, cause I did it yesterday on my x230, don't know if it works but here other anons said it will.

Open CPUZ, SPD tab, copy the model code of your current ram and paste it on amazon, pick up the most similar.
If you have 2 slots used pick a cheap ddr3 sodimm kit

>>58913044
>q820 real quad w/ht, quadro
>integrated sandy dualcore
Are you sure it's faster even in multicore tasks? Because I seriously doubt it.

>>58914449
Wut?

>>58914181
>>58914439
Yes they do.
You don't even need to flash the BIOS.
As long as the thinkpad see the SSD as USB mass storage you're good to go.
The issue comes when you try to install windows that's why I'm stuck with Win8.1.

>>58915001
What model exactly? It is only reasonable to put Expresscard SSD in C2D Thinkpads, since it has 5gbit speed opposing to 3gbit SATA II

>>58915034
W520, I'm using lexar ExpressCard SSD.

>>58915049
Dumb expresscardposter. Sata 3 is faster and more common.

>>58915115
>Sata 3
I'm sacrificing "speed" for the ease of swapping.

>>58915146
>tfw two intelligent two dualboot on one disk

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So, I've been looking into the guides.

I want a computer that is going to be still and connected to power about 80% of the time. Should I still get an X2* or are there cheaper alternatives with the same specs? I don't mind bulky, as long as it's cheaper.

>>58915173
T4** usually are cheaper.

>>58915173
Get an T420 or T430, better display and cheaper.

>>58915171
Again it's the ease of swapping, and the seamless booting.
It's like having a RPi with better specs.

>>58914449
The t420 turbos up to 3ghz but it's a dual core w/ht

The q820 stock is 1.7ghz but it'll probably turbo up to 2.2 ghz with 4 quads w/ht.

It'll definitely beat the t420 in multicore, although not by much. Only reason I'm upgrading is the ability to use a 1080p screen.

I've no idea what a decent mSATA SSD is, can anyone recommend one for the x220? 120-256gb is fine with me.
>dying hdd

>>58915440
>spending money on a dead interface

It can't handle regular sata?

>>58913871
>that bag
I can smell it from here.

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ordered a t430 500gig on ebay for $113

Did I do good /g/?

>>58915439
yeah, but 1st gen cores where quite a bit slower than second gen and further. But ok, I get. Is the screen a lot different than the horseshit they put in 420? Angles and black levels in 420 are retarded.
Also who can explain me why t60 screen looks better than 400 series up to 440?

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>>58915195
>>58915208

Thanks. Would I be retarded to settle for a 1st or 2nd Gen processor? Everything I see is above 350€, I can easily get something for that price in my piece of shit country.

>>58915593
what processor?
ssd ord hdd?
internal graphic?
refurbished?
any damage?

>>58915593
link the auction

>>58915615
2nd gen is fine

>>58915439
Wow, I just checked notebookcheck and 1080p in t510 is actually something that can be called a screen. It's indeed a good trade off.

>>58915173
Why 12 inch if you want basically a desktop, get a T or W and be happy, X are supposed to be moved around

>>58915657
3rd has better graphics and usb3 everywhere, I'd say it's worth the 40€ more

>>58915657
So, here we go. Not a T4**, but fuck it, just to get a sense of prices

>X220 Refurbished

>i5-2520
>8GB RAM
>HDD 320GB
>SSD 120GB

350€ - 370$

>>58915598
Apparently the B156HW01 v4 in the w510 is the best TN has to offer, at least in 2011.

Here's a review with the same panel
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7250/mythlogic-pollux-1613-clevo-p157sm-review/7

I just want to get away from that awful screen. There's no perfect viewing angle for the t420. Anywhere you look there's the TN shift. You just gotta find a good spot and ignore the shift in the corners or wherever.

The machine itself is fantastic, but the screen is so dogshit that I feel people shouldn't recommend thinkpads with shit screens anymore.

>>58915734
Too much, for that price you can have a 250SSD, 3rd gen and IPS, I had my x230 without HDD and with 4gb for 240

>>58912562
no, the manufacturers that make them are all garbage

>>58915593
if its in decent condition then you did okay

>>58914123
PEC12

I want to get either a x230 or a T420. X220 if the jews try to jew me. How much performance can I expect from their normal 6-cell used batteries? I honestly don't want to spend too much since I already got a good desktop and I will only be using the thinkpad for writing and recording lessons at college.

>>58915734
Way to much! You should pay around 250 for this build.

>>58915923
Literally impossible to find on ebay, apart from auctions

>>58915761
yeah, i checked it already. I should really look into those 1080p thinkpads. It's definitely worth some performance sacrifice

>>58915967
> apart from auctions
Literally minutes ago there was a x230 120gb ssd 8gb ram sold for 216€.

>>58915734
If you live in Europe you should expect to pay more for a used Thinkpad than in the US. But holy fuck 350€? I got one with the same specs (except it had no SSD) for 200€. In pretty much mint condition.

>>58915776
Sorry to spam this shit, but I'm really new at this

>Lenovo X230
>Core i5 3rd Gen 2.6GHZ,
>8GB Memory
>250GB HDD

>230€

>>58916035
I'm yuropoor, not sure if it makes a difference. Nothing apart from auctions sells for that little.

>>58916052
yeah, exactly. the 350€ is from shops where I live.

>>58915917
X230 user here bought with a used 9 cell with 90 cycles, now has 130 on its back and last night I used it for 5 hours with premiere on battery, you can try 6 or 7 for notes, I think the t420 can't do that (older CPU, bigger system)

>>58916069
Good for the 8GB, not good for the HDD, go for it but add another 60€ for a 120 SSD

>>58916069
>I'm yuropoor, not sure if it makes a difference.
no difference

>>58916102
Sorry even less

>>58916069
> is from shops where I live
go to ebay, srsly

>>58916069
https://www.luxnote-hannover.de

try Luxnote. I bought a T400 and an X220 there. They ship to EU countries for 15€ and almost everything they sell is in near perfect condition because they sell laptops from leasing contracts. Just be prepared to wait a few weeks if your model of choice isn't available.

>>58916185
Well, the T430 with HDD and 3rd gen i5 is at 245€... Should I go for it? I will have to upgrade RAM to 8gb later and put an SSD on it too, so I'll end up spending more anyway...

>>58916185
>>58916315
Way more expensive than the German ebay prices!

>>58916185
please dont forget to rate us with 5 stars

>>58916315
Fellow Europoor, my T430 (1600*900, i5, 8GB, HDD, extended battery) clocked well under 200€ incl. tax & shipping.
Going over 200 is a complete ripoff unless it's already complete with SSD & 16GB.

>>58916482
That's what I keep hearing, but I can't see those prices anywhere, but for auctions or damaged goods. Where did buy that one?

>>58916526
Thinkpads are cheap only in 'murica

How do I concealed carry a laptop?
I'll be issued X1 Carbon next month, and I'll need to move it between home and office frequently. The problem is that part of my trip goes through a ghetto. Obvious precaution to not getting mugged is to not look like a mark.
Would shit like:
>http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/OTG_Jacket_Men.shtml
Do the job? I'd feel dirty about stuffing my fancy new machine into worn-out second hand backpack just to keep it safe.

>>58916526
Be patient, save a searches on ebay and program an alarm for interesting auctions.

>>58916526
Ebay. I had to be stalking the offers for a while before getting it as low as I did though.

is there somewhere else to get x220/230 9 cell batteries in the UK? All of ebay's listings are super expensive, chink fakes or from other countries.

>find good price for a T430
>this item does not ship internationally


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>>58916878
to which countries does it ship?
share the link, share the love

Does a t420i have a webcam? I don't seee it but i have one on my t420

>>58915617
>>58915635
>>58915842
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162382261477

i got a new X220 for $404 2 days ago what should i install, i got a SSD in it too and windows 7 and 9 cell batt

>>58917037
Straya cunts & UK do that frequently
Murrica does it sometimes.

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>thinkpad cost $70
>SSD replacement cost $70
>maxed out RAM cost $70

I feel weird about spending twice the cost of the computer on upgrades alone.

>>58917037
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172519453707

>>58912307
t430s best think

>>58917133
My laptop cost 20e
My graphics tablet cost 200e
My laptop has an in-built graphics tablet
Really made me wonder

>>58916185
retarded prices

>>58917084
nice indeed

>>58917133
I've been on the fence about maxing out my ram.
since i got the ssd, I haven't experienced any swap thrashing.
I actually tried to trigger the thrashing and it finally started swapping after opening 20 chrome tabs, which i hardly ever do.

Would there be any appreciable improvement in a T430s onboard HD4000 performance by switching from 1300mhz to 1866mhz RAM?

>>58917133
or
>original batery costs 200€

Is this the Europe edition of /tpg/? There's little reason to still buy these xx30 machines, but damn, I've never seen people still lusting at them at these prices.

I guess that's how you know it's a meme.

>>58917133
I sort of did this with my X201t
Laptop was like £100 with a charger and battery
SSD was £50 and RAM was £30

does anyone have a 1200p w500 that they can post to this britcuck
no one has any

pls halp

x240 250 or 260?

240 would have been fine, but want fingerprint reader and non click pad. Also does fingerprint reader work with popular linux dist?

>>58918981
You have actually triggered /tpg/. I guarantee you. But the x250 is going for really great prices. Had one before my x260 and liked it. Be sure not to get the base-model display, they have always been garbage.

I can get one of these two models for free through a family members work.
>T440s
>Yoga 260
I'm leaning towards the T440s because of the better battery life and lack of touch screen. However, it's larger and a little heavier. Primary use would be for university or while traveling overseas. Not sure if I would be using a linux distro but there's a reasonable chance. Which should I choose?

>>58919047
Not sure why I triggered. I am new her.

Anyway, x250 in UK goes for around $500 tax included. Is that a reasonable price?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X250-12-5-Light-Weight-Laptop-Core-i5-5300U-8GB-RAM-500GB-HDD-/401260476731?hash=item5d6cfcf93b:g:YsEAAOSwLEtYfNj9

I will swap out the screen for IPS FHD and the HDD for a 1TB SSD

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i just bought a t410i and i found out that on debian sometimes the wifi just stop working but if i do dhclient wlan0 or dhclient eth0 wifi starts working again. any suggestion?

>>58919267
check if ubuntu is an approved os for your laptop. Lenovo does a pretty good job of making sure their laptops are fully compatible with ubuntu with no tweaks. My yoga works perfect from the digitizer, to the bluetooth works perfect with a plain install of Ubuntu

>>58919267
https://certification.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/

here's a link

>>58916634
having a bag to carry things in makes you a mark. just wear a wearable pouch in the front with your laptop in it under your clothes

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Something is broken on my W520, but I don't know what it is.

It stopped recognizing the AC adapter altogether. It would be firmly plugged in, but the laptop would say that it's on battery. So I bought a new AC adapter. W520 won't recognize it. Bought a new battery, thinking that that might be the problem. Same shit. Laptop won't recognize that it's plugged in. Bought a dock because I figured the AC port or whatever was broken on the laptop. Tried to plug in the AC adapter into the port on the dock and the fucking laptop still won't recognize that it's plugged in. What fucking part is broken on this laptop? I don't know anything about hardware.

Any help is appreciated.

>>58916634
I currently throw my yoga laptop into a sleeve and throw it into my back pack. I don't think to many people are interested in back packs as they assume they just hold books. I go to PSU in Downtown Portland. Not really a ghetto but a couple of incidents have happened here. I still feel safe with my bag

>>58919773
might be the solder joints have failed on the power jack. if it's just that you can resolder it otherwise you'll likely need a new motherboard.

>>58917890
buying them for over 200 euros is retarded, but I regularly see t420 at 120 euro (t430 for 140). At that price it's hard to beat. The cheapest new one is over twice as expensive, not necessarily faster, completely naked in ports and has budget finish.

>>58919047
the first one with good screen. Did they ever started putting good screens in them? lol

>>58919459
>>58919433
thank you i'll look into it

>>58919773

Check voltages on the board. On one Thinkpad I had, it blew a fuse on the board. Soldered in a single strand of copper wire to replace it, still works years later.

Anyone interested in buying some librebooted T400 Thinkpads? I have some german models for sale.

Anyone know if an Intel 7260 wifi card will work in a T61 with modified BIOS?

>>58920123
It shuld, with Middletons' one the Ultimate-N 6300, which is not whitelisted.

Got a T430s but the wireless card noticeably decreased my internet speed. Anyone know a good wireless card to get for my model?

>>58919079
Anyone? I'm asking here rather than settling with which has the higher review score as the reviews I've seen on each seem to favor one or the other closely, with no clear best option.

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Is it normal for a ThinkPad to feel roasting hot even when the CPU is only at 70C?

I downloaded that third party thinkpad fan control program thing and just set the fan to turn off below 65C, made it nice and quiet but I'm worried about other components overheating maybe.

>>58920398
T440s gets a proper subframe on top of what you mentioned, and it'd probably be more suitable for actually being productive. Just get the form factor that suits you best or jump on whichever has better specs I guess.

>>58921638
repaste the cpu is the first thing i do when i acquire a thoughtbook

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>Thinkpad L440
>Used, broken battery holders, little dents on edges
>i5-4200U/4GB/320GB/1600x900
>$150

Should I go for it /tpg/ ?

>>58922207
never buy e or l series
never buy education series

>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

you aren't buying a thinkpad, you're buying what amounts to their consumer line version

>>58922207
>No internal battery like rest of that generation
>shit touchpad
>likely having to tape your battery in place
You can pick up a T420 or T430 at a similar price and the only "downside" will be a processor that's slightly more power hungry but more powerful. All that L440 has going for it is that it's a cheap way of getting a thinkpad with a reasonable screen.

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Nice and fat.

>>58921852
yeah always do this the TIM laptop manufacturers use from the factory is shit and is normally poorly applied. Re pasting my t530 and x230 with quality thermal paste i had temperatures drop as much as 10-15 degrees under load. Not to mention the fan hardly has to spin for non intensive loads

>>58922288
>>58922313
Thanks, I was only considering it because it's a bargain.

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Finished modding my x201! Here are the specs:

>250GB SSD
>8GB RAM
>Kernel-compatible wireless card
>Modded bios with patches + custom boot image
>Japanese Keyboard
>AFFS display

Unfortunately, fucked up on removing the touch panel from the display and put two marks on the display. Very unhappy with this, but I guess I'll have to bear with it. Done fucking with this thing, she's the best I can think of making her.

>>58922570
Cancer

>>58915593
Bretty good.

I paid $150 for a T420 with:
8GB Ram
1600x900
120GB SSD
i5-2520M

>>58922570
>8gb in x201 + ssd (awesome)

>custom boot image
>japanese keyboard (and lives in US, priority mail box in backgrounds)
you're probably a social autist, but I hope you enjoy your thinkpad anon. Those older models run very well after new paste + ssd

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>>58922849
I have a girlfriend, I'm not a social autist, just a weeaboo. ;3

Yeah I've had this thing for over a year now, just took me a while to fuck with it and get to a stopping point. Dunno if I care enough to get another display and try again, since I got this one for only $20. Don't think I will, since this thing does what it should and a few marks on the screen doesn't hinder its use other than trigger my autism.

>>58922570
You may be autistic

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i have a couple of 64gb sd card lay around and think of buying pic related. has anyone used one before?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017QTLT70/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1SYP8REU5ZBB1&coliid=IFR4AAKKOX1V9

>>58922570
>trackpad

>>58915440
msata is just a form factor that's still too expensive to really be worth it for the average consumer
if your hdd is dying you might as well upgrade to a samsung 850 evo or at least a crucial mx300

Australia

Looking for laptop for coding on. Additionally id like to be able to use debian or ubuntu on it in dual boot with the linux being the dominant os.

Any suggestions? sqt sent me

>>58914123
nail polish remover

>>58913227

Girls don't give a shit about computers you autistic fuck. Real life isn't /g/. You'd most likely attract a homosexual cross dresser off here.

How much is a good price for a t420?

>>58923784
Under $200.

>>58923671
x220

>>58923671
why not embezzle foundation money and get a rmbp

>>58923950
how? what foundation?

>>58913871
What model is she, anon?

>>58922207
Hell no. Maybe, just maybe, it's be worth that much in pristine condition, if you can bring yourself to buy a neuteredpad.

Hey guys, just picked up an x201 yesterday, is there anyway to get an IPS panel in this fucker? These viewing angles are garbage.

>>58912562
Nah, I'm fine with a normal 2.5" SSD
Don't need that crap.

>>58915593
Gud gud disguy

>>58922207
Ehhhhhhhhhh
T440 can be buyable at $270
Its a good price for a not liked ThinkPad

>>58919773
Something on the motherboard related to charging, for sure. The power input from the dock ports and the DC jack run through the same charging circuitry. Probably some bad solder or a failed chip in there. May need a new mobo.

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>Tfw want an X220 but with a 13 inch 1080p LED IPS screen modded in with 16 gigs of ram, 1TB SSD, 3x3 wireless AC MU-MIMO, 7th gen Core-i7

>>58924609
Get an x330 boi

>>58924090
just sit in front of your screen?

>>58919154
That's not a bad price to be honest. It's a lot more future-proof than the Ivy Bridge models. If you want to put the money into doing a screen swap, make sure you do it as a way to gain technical proficiency. It is not financially sound to upgrade every cheap Thinkpad you come across. Most mods are well documented, if there are any roadbumps to them.

You will REALLY appreciate the extra battery life the x250 gives you over the x230. Trust me.

>>58923687
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Acetone will act as a solvent to the case of most (any?) Thinkpad.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>58914123
eucalyptus oil and paper towel

>>58914123
Use 0000-grade steel wool or some other similarly abrasive material.

>>58914123
goo gone?
goof off?

They are similarly named, but one is orange oil and one is a harsh solvent. Good luck. Death to stickerfags.

>>58915718
>better graphics
you don't need this. Get a real Thinkpad keyboard and don't fuck with flashing an EC for a ~98% working keyboard. You want a 100% working machine, man.

I am looking for an expensive Thinkpad. I want something like the P50 but without the huge numpad beside the keyboard. Is there an analog to the W530 from years ago? I love that thing.

>>58924626
>x330
>existing
pick one

The chinks made a few, but they are memes. Just memes. The hardware version of a rare pepe, but not as rare as the T62.

>>58922570
could you specify on the wifi card? Which one did you use?

>>58916482
These are ALWAYS shit condition. If you get a price like this you can be 100% certain that something is off about the laptop you're buying.

>>58925511
you are fucking retarded the keyboard is pretty much fully functional. Do some research, no one uses the function zoom or function f3 combo anyway

>>58925197
well, it'll remove the rubberized coating off the metal, sure.

Guys my x201 Thinklight is acting up, the light will only turn on if I press hard on the plastic/screen directly under the light. What can I do to fix this barring taking the whole thing apart?

>>58925815
>pretty much fully functional
>fully functional
>98%
This has to be an automatic post or something. I really can't explain it any other way. Anyone that has actually done the swap (me) can tell you that it's better to have a keyboard with the correct printed functions, and no dead functions.

I want to buy a Yoga Book

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Should I get rid of the stickers?

>>58925971
confirmed for autism

Just picked up X230 secondhand for $120 dollarydoos. Was thinking of swapping out the battery for a new one. Are third party options worth it or dogshit?

>>58926122
hit and miss even buying a genuine one is hit and miss because of how long they've been sitting. Tbh tho I bought a genuine lenovo 9 cell and had no issues.

>>58926122

Also, are there any expresscards that allow direct input from composite video cables?

>>58926039
I've to the same stickers. The white one came off on its own and the Widows one I took off myself. They leave a mark. You can see there were stickers even after thorough cleaning with alcohol.

Where does one by working batteries?

I have a T420, I've bought 3 batteries over the years and every single time they end up only holding a charger for about an hour.

Where do you guys get your batteries?

>>58922570
>201
Found your problem! Stay backdoored, cuck :^)

>>58924090
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/TFT_display
https://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/x200.html

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>>58926364
It wouldn't even come off with steel wool, wtf?

Fucking (((Intel)))

>>58926612
Try ultraviolet

>>58923174
Can you mount it in raid?

>>58925559
As far as I know, Lenovo's workstationiest offering without a numpad, beyond the W530, is the T460p, or T470p once it's out.

>>58926612
>using abrasives to get a bit of sticker gum off
I think leaving it as is would be the lesser of the two evils. If strong solvents and rubbing won't do it then you might as well just leave it. You'll probably forget about it at at that point anyway.

>>58923174
>USB 2.0 speed
>only 32gb per slot supported
>20$
>not bootable
Just buy msata ssd. Even if you could put two 64gb cards you can't boot any OS and probably you can't mount it into raid also speed will be shit

>>58926687
It says somewhere on this listing that it's RAID0.
www.amazon.com/Cablecc-Express-Bracket-Memory-Adapter/dp/B00S6AQUK0

>>58926771
It'd be an alright buy if you just had spares but
>20$
This pretty much kills the potential as a gimicky way of filling a slot. I'm surprised the chinks aren't shitting them out for next to nothing.

Are the stock SSDs in the x220 still usable or would it be better to just buy a brand new one?

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>ThinkPad X230 Refurbished

>Intel Core i5 3rd Gen
>4 GB RAM
>500GB HDD

How much would you give for this?

ebay.com.au/itm/x220/142277093036

Opinions?
Seems like a good deal

>>58927306
It's alright. Some other options would end up cheaper for me just based on the $25 postage I'm getting quoted edging it out, but the apparently fresh battery makes it pretty worthwhile anyway.

>>58922570
Running Arch Linux? Or Gentoo with a skin? Linky to the skin? Because it looks sick!

>>58927389
Chicago95

>>58919267
Someone needs to replace that puny thinkpad with a G40.

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>>58925598
It's an AR9462 I pulled out of another device I had.

>>58927389
I'm running Debian Unstable with no non-free software (Besides bootloader, ofc). It's a GTK + Openbox theme I fabricated myself a while ago, just stole some ideas and methods from other shitty windows themes floating around.

>>58917069
no idea about the particular model, but ****i's generally are lower specced variants of the relevant models, so possibly yeah

>>58927189
guise, would 200$ be too much?

>>58927504
*crinjes*

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Where did all the trolls come from? I remember tpg being such a nice, friendly place to discuss thinkpads. ;(

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>>58927504
I like it

>>58922207

Patrzyłem na ten sam ;d. Ale brak baterii, zasilacza, to +150zł i ekran to to samo dziadostwo co w poprzednich modelach.

Do you always check your thinkpads personally before buying or do you just rely on the vendor's reputation? I'm about to buy a T430 from another city, since the one I live in doesn't have much other options and I worry the battery time is not good enough.

>>58927958
Just make sure when you buy it they took actual pictures of the unit you're buying, and don't buy ones with stock pictures. Ask questions, etc. Not hard to get something you'll be happy with.

I got my x201 a few years ago for $150 on Ebay, all the pictures he took were my device and I asked if the screen was in good condition, ended up being great. The only thing I saw from the images was a small scuff on the topscreen cover, but otherwise the device was in perfect condition. If you don't trust online sellers, these things are plentiful from school auctions and stuff, just do some research!

T430 or Dell E6430?

does anyboy actually use the VPro features?

>>58928139
NSA does

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I have this weird issue with my T420.
Sometimes when I move it around, the sound stops working, and the audio device isn't recognized by the system.
I can "see" the audio is being playedback with the audiomixer but there is no sound.

I'd need to power it off, shake it a little bit, and boot it back and it would work back and the audio device is recognized back, and everything is back as normal.

Any idea what's causing this?

>>58928007
Perhaps I'm too greedy. I've already seen the product and it seems pretty much in mint condition, but I expect the battery to be still at, I dunno, 90% of its capacity. What should I expect from corporation-used TPs regarding the battery?

>>58927504
Would you mind sharing the theme?

>>58928352
maybe loose cable

>>58928352
Take the palmrest and keyboard off and check the speaker assembly, very easy to get to stuff inside these things, might just be a loose plug.

>>58928361
Battery will most likely be shot, they usually stay on the charger at all times, best to get a new one, but that's barely an issue when buying used Thinkpads. I got lucky and found a brand new x200/x201 9cell on ebay for $20 a year ago, still using it now, get a good 5 hours out of it.

>>58928380
If you can link me to an easy filesharing website, I can zip everything up!

>>58928407
Mega? I use stack myself, but you need an invite for that

>>58926771
I don't really care if it's bootable or not. I just some extra storage for my music

>>58928407
Thank YouTube, I Guess I'll do that And buy a mes battery if the nerd arises.

>>58928058
E6430 and E3410 had a problem with their fan. It comes on and never comes off. Even when CPU is ice cold. It wouldn't bother me, but it's lowest RPMs is way over 2000.

Dell is fucking retarded, because many people reported this and they did nothing about it. I wonder if they finally fixed it in higher series. Does anyone have e7440?

>>58928435
I mean, I had only those two, so I don't know about xx20 series, but it's probably the same

>>58928352
Audio chip sits on a separate card in right corner under palmrest. As far as I remember, it has direct Azalia bus to cpu. Check the cable.

>>58914123
Hot water and dish soap.
Alternatively, a wet rag and some elbow grease.
How I got off my windows 10 code, intel core i5 and lelnovo experience stickers with no residue.

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>>58928424
I forgot I have my own website lol...

https://lewd.pics/f/c9ec2b60/wintheme.tar.gz

>>58928424
>>58928629
Oh, and the background if that's your thing:

https://lewd.pics/p/?i=zGeB.png (1920x1080)
https://lewd.pics/p/?i=Lvsh.png (1280x800)

>>58928435
Thanks, I think I'll go for the T430.

>>58928689
You are awesome, thanks! <3

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>>58926839
>would it be better to just buy a brand new one?
Thinkpad?
Yes.

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>>58924078
T60 lad

Is 50C cpu and 33C motherboard temperatures fine?

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>>58928388
Where?
>>58928407
>speaker assembly
It happens for both the speakers and headphone, unless you mean the audio jack is connected to the speaker?
>>58928598
This cable?

>>58929036
I would assume both outputs are connected at the same source, however, I've never had to mess with the audio on my x201, and I don't own a t420. :(

Worth a shot ripping her open and jiggling some cables around, as it's only a matter of removing a few screws to get inside. Everything's user-friendly for repair.

>>58929085
I'm asking because I thought the speakers' cable was loose, but it wouldn't explain why the headphones didn't work neither.

I thought maybe the sound chip have died.

If the issue was a loose cable or dead sound chip, would a dedicated sound card solve it?

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>X220t, Core i5 3320M, 320GB HDD, 4GB DDR3 SDRAM, 6-cell battery, FP, Bluetooth.

For 275$.

It's expensive isn't it?

>>58929359
Awful price.

>>58929359
>>58929390
I paid almost twice that for an x220 tablet (with IPS though.) If you don't need that feature I'd say it's worth it for a ready to go machine.

>>58927189
$220 in the US, 260€ in the EU

>>58929430
ALL x220ts have IPS anon...

>>58929462
I got a similar one, but with 8GB ram and an SSD for only $180.
Mine has a TN screen, but he didn't specify so I'll assume TN as well.

>>58929359
Got an x230t with 8 gb ram and all the rest for $110 recently

Computer noob here, is this a good deal? My father needs a laptop for web browsing and light office work. Also is it durable and will it survive a lot of drops?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834332444

>>58929613
The price is good. It can take quite a beating. But why a lot of drops? Does your dad have Parkinson's?

>>58928429
Why not store it on external hdd? It's cheaper and more efficient if you have got USB 3.0 or buy bigger drive like 2tb for your DVD caddy

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>>58912307
coreboobed x220. neutered ME. werks well. thanks for shilling me again on thinkpads /tpg/

>>58929673
>liberate computer with coreboot
>muh free software
>pray to RMS every night
>proceed to lurk /g/
>post stuff using reCAPTCHA

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>>58929390
How much should it be?
According to the ktgee page it should be ~300$.
>>58929430
Are you running linux on it?
How's the digitizer?
I already have T420 as my main machine, but I need something light weight, to carry and toss around, and draw.
>>58929524
>110$
What's the catch?

>>58929755
>Are you running linux on it?
Not yet.
>How's the digitizer?
Honestly excellent. I was expecting to be disappointed. Not all programs play well with it though.
>I already have T420 as my main machine, but I need something light weight, to carry and toss around, and draw.
It is my "toss around" computer. The screen is too small to multitask, so don't try it as your one and only. The long screen in tablet mode is great for drawing.

>>58929646
He isn't very careful with things and I want to be sure it will last.

Is there much of a difference between x220 and the T430? Same HDD for both, and I would have to get new batteries for each one.

>>58929863
Dude, is your father an adult? Like a proper adult who pays for his own stuff? In what world are people not careful with shit they paid >$200 for?

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>>58929755
>>58929814
>having more than one thinkpad
Madmen.
You fap to thinkpads, don't you?

>>58929708
more like
"I had to" cuz computrace and to brag on /tpg/
related (bios dump): http://termbin.com/ctdr
"redbull"

>>58929657
I don't want to lug extra things around and its for my x220 so no hdd caddy

>Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Besides the telemetry stuff having win10 on T420 is bad idea.

About to give 180$ for a X230 without actual photos. How cucked am I gonna be?

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Should I just do it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-Intel-Core-i5-2-6Ghz-8GB-240-GB-SSD-14-Windows-10-/172494441663?hash=item2829784cbf:g:48gAAOSwLEtYgh69

>>58929922
cpu, screen size

>>58930169
It's probably gonna work fine but wiht some damage to the casing. Also it's gonna have computrace activated

>>58929922
Yep. The T430 has a newer CPU with WAY better integrated graphics. We're talking twice as fast. Also the T430 is gonna ship with the new keyboard. Of course it also has a bigger screen and the option for a higher resolution than 768p

>>58930038
I only have one Thinkpad. Posting from a Macbook Pro. I fap to abstractia and the fact that women are just as sexual as men.

>>58930231
kys :^)

(keep your sheckles)

>>58930324
>keep your sheckles

thx

>kys

why?

>>58930231
>Business seller information
>STN TRADERS LTD
>>>>>>>>>>>MUHAMMAD TUFAIL
>buying from shitskins
it has the shit display anyways so fuck off.

>>58930398
>buying from shitskins

>I'm from /pol/ so I will disregard any potentially good buy because of the seller's ethnicity :^)

>>58930453
Dude no matter how good the price, the shitskin touched it. There's literaly mudslime on that laptop.

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>>58930498

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>>58930370

>>58930310
>I fap to abstractia.
I need this in bumper sticker form.

W510 fag again, Can I get a price check on both of these? I want to sell them quick so I'm not going to haggle over $10~$20 market difference but I don't want it to be too low because muh shekels.

T420
>i5 2520 Sandy dual w/ht
>8GB ram
>128GB SSD
>1366x768 "flawless" screen
>ac adapter
>8/10 looks new from a feet away

W510 (I bought two and will be keeping one)
>i7 820qm quad w/ht
>quadro FX 880, basically desktop gtx 2xx series (still have driver support though)
>4gb ram
>160gb spinners
>don't know about res, but let's assume 1366x768 (upgradeable to 1080)
>ac adapter

>>58931124
But where are you from?
T420 would be worth 170$ in urop
W510 I have no clue, but since it's low res panel it can't be worth that much.

>>58930231
>>58930398
>United Kingdom
>Muhammad
for fucks sake

Best eGPU for Thinkpads? I've heard the V8.0 EXP GDC Beast has some issues.

>>58931352
i've used both the exp gdc v8 and pe4c:

pe4c is solidly built, though the board isn't enclosed. thumb screws and slot locking clip keeps the card firmly in place soldered cable is pretty short and a bit inflexible. need to take care in positioning the adapter to not put pressure on the cable connection. works great. stupid expensive, i got one before the price hike

exp gdc is smaller and lighter, and enclosed in a little plastic box. card is held in with slot friction so you wouldn't want to bump it during use. card balances on the tabs of its metal back plate so it doesn't put much leaning pressure on the slot itself. cable is detachable, almost twice as long, thinner, and more flexible. a lot easier to position on the desk. works fine for me. much cheaper, i got one on sale for $30 just to experiment with

i've also heard about the exp gdc having problems with gen2 signalling, but mine seems perfectly stable with an x220. i have a v8.4d, which i believe is a newer revision. until there are problems with it, i'll probably stick with the exp gdc for daily use, since it's a lot more flexible and easier to travel with. i'll be a lot less annoyed if it breaks too

>>58912307
Just got a T410 for €200
Did I do good?

>>58932331
Forgot to mention, the one with the i7-620m, 8gb

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Can I do this with a thinkpad and an external gpu?

>>58932331
i had the T410i for 160€ but the i5 one and with just 4gb of ram

>>58932438
How old are you?

I'm thinking about buying a Thinkpad from compuclean on eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LENOVO-THINKPAD-T420-14-1-LAPTOP-i5-2nd-Gen-2-5GHz-NEW-RAM-HDD-Win7-Pro-/222382923803?var=&hash=item33c70e201b:m:muF4BMcUuUo5Q9CNB3EkTEg). Their prices are a bit high but it seems to be of good quality. Does anyone have any feedback about them? Thanks in advance

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>>58932480
25

>>58932661
>aren't

Hey tpg. First time posting here.
After lurking for last couple of months you have convinced me. I'm gonna buy a think pad.

But which one should i get.
It should be able to do some video editing. Write scripts. And be able to do some very light gaming (games like dota 2 and csgo)

Which one do you recommend?
A dedicated graphics chip is preferred but not necessary.

>>58932738
>video editing
>gaming
thinkpads aren't powerful enough for that lad

>>58932738
thinkpads are for shitposting on 4chin, not for work

>>58932480
Don't worry, he's legal.

>>58932770
>what is eGPU for 60fps gayming
>what is dGPU for 30fps gayming
>what is iGPU for light gayming
idiot

>>58932855
Are you his mommy?

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Does a dock consume power if it's left plugged in 24/7?

>>58932803
*old* Thinkpads are not for work. I love the shit out of my T460.

Just got a thinkpad x61 for 180$
How did I do?

>>58933308
Great.

>>58932803
I do back-end development as a job on my t430s which I also shitpost on

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>>58932803
>work for tech company of couple thousand employees
>helpdesk drones get T420 or T430
>developers get X1 Carbon
>managers have the choice of Carbon or some MacBook

>>58914123
Alright guys, I finally cleaned it up. I used an eraser.

What should I install on my Thinkpad instead of Arch now that they're discontinuing i686 builds? It had everything I wanted, minimal base system, huge binary repository, rolling release, good package manager, easy to build from source on the off chance I had to.

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Do thinkpad users eventually develop brain damage? I was looking at that picture with the naked Nigerian holding torches with a thinkpad hanging from his dick and I used to think it looked like an old and ugly piece of shit. Then I got one of these things, and today I look at my T420 and I see a beautifully designed piece of machinery. I can't tell at what point the change occurred but I'm suspecting prolonged thinkpad usage damages the brain

anyone done the alienware panel mod ? pics ?

>>58933196
ye.

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the charging port on my t430 is starting to feel a little loose, how screwed am i. how hard is it for the charging port to actually break? is it soldered to the motherboard?

>>58933526
>>58933237
>>58933468
well, yeah, but serious people use workstations. Maybe as a secondary device it isn't that bad. Definitely not for multimedia editing tho

>tfw browsing /tpg/ from comfy bed with my x220

>>58934676
It's connected. It's also $3 on Ebay.

Got my thinkpad and it turns out the trackpoint is actually pretty cool... I thought being a directional input method like a joystick would make it worthless compared the the trackpad, but it's got some neat acceleration algorithm going on that makes it actually useful.

also What's that rectangular thing on the palmrest slightly northwest of the thinkpad logo?

>>58925964
Take bezel off and fix.

>>58926381
Lenovo website for genuine new that hasn't been stored on a shelf in a cold/hot warehouse for 4 years.

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>2014
>still buying lelnovo and not fujitsu

>>58934691
>tfw browsing /tpg/ from comfy bed with my t530

>>58935007
Fingerprint reader.

Need the Lenovo software to make it work.

>>58935296
idk about the xx20 series but the fingerprint scanner on mt t530 worked out of the box with windows 10

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>>58932803
>X230 Tablet
>Use for on-site setup of wireless APs, routers, switches, diagnostics of network problems, wifi signal issues and site surveys.
>Also use for shitdrawing and shitposting in the evening

Ive been browsing for a think pad to buy but everything seems to be fucking """"""""INTEL INTEGRATED GRAPHICS"""""""" how the fuck do I avoid this? Or is every think pad infested with the shitty intel gpu? (It doesnt even matter what series it is, the fact is that the highest end integrated graphics is going to be worse than low end stuff of proper gpus)

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>>58935288
>that keyboard
No thanks
>That (lack) of TrackPoint
No thanks.
>That teeny trackpad that looks like it belongs on a Toshiba Satellite from 2004
No thanks.

>>58935288
>fushitsu
All I want is a cute Panasonic Let's Note.

>>58935338
>wanting a thinkpad with a deprecated piece of shit dedicated gpu
lol

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>>58935362
I usually never browse this thread, what is the meme you guys have conjured to defend against integrated graphics? please do tell

>>58935379
ok firstly if you are buying a 4 year old laptop the dgpu is going to be shit in it regardless and desu if you are worried about graphics performance you probably shouldn't be buying a 4 year + old laptop. Second of all DGPU models use a lot more energy and battery life is significantly worse, not to mention the heat output has increased. Thirdly its just another thing to go wrong (read up on all the nvidia failures on earlier thinkpads). Finally the HD4000 found in the xx30 series thinkpads is not actually that much worse than the base model NVS nvidia gpu found in the T430 and T530

>>58935441
also another thing to note the HD4000 found in the T430 T530 is actually a decent chunk better than the NVS 4200m the dedicated GPUs found in most T420s and T520s.

>>58935441
>>58935503
Reasonable answers, I'm sold, how much should I look to spend on a think pad? (Not for gaymen use)

>>58935669
Something decent and in great condition maybe 200-250USD
only models i'd recommend are the x220 x230 and the t520 t530. These are still relatively modern and speedy machines. I tend to keep away from the T420/30 because of how horrible their screens are. The screens in the T520 T530 are far far superior despite them being the same resolution. The T520 and T530 could also be optioned with a 1080p panel and its a drop in upgrade if you ever want to do so.

>>58935669
Between $150 and $500 depending on model, specs.

For example, an X230 with i5, 4gb, 320 or 500gb HDD should be around $150-$250 depending on condition. T series models with similar specs should have similar prices. The ones with IPS displays tend to cost more. Ones with SSDs or i7s will cost more. Workstation models (P or W series) will cost more, but generally have much better specs and displays. Also larger, heavier, hotter, and less battery life.

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What's the smallest/thinnest thinkpad that's actually capable, that came before the x230?

>>58935716
for the workstation models feel free to buy the W500 (its a bit long in the tooth now tho) W520 or W530 but keep the fuck away from the W510. The battery life on those is next to nothing and the first gen i7s are just a fireball. They thermal throttle so much that their performance is comparable to a i5 2520m.

>>58935338
>how the fuck do I avoid this
you avoid dedicated graphics. The ones from this period develop problems due to thermal cycling.

>>58935744
the x220?

>>58935777
That's the same size as the x230.

>>58935812
You said smallest/thinnest capable that came before the X230.

Thats the X220.

You didn't say *smaller* than the X230.

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Its better than nothing

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>>58935854
here...


>>58935744
There is the X61s... Pic related, X220 vs X61s.

>>58935928
Is it much thicker?

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>>58936082
Not much. This is the extended battery I think 8 cell.

>>58929673

Congratulations. You will notice slightly faster boot-ups, with weird noise and battery issues. But hey! you can fix the yourself!.

You bought the same clamp as mine

Hey /tpg/. What are all the mods that you can do to a x200? I did these:

>libreboot
>SSD
>Wifi upgrade.

I want to make something to the speaker, is there a way to install a better one, in the same space?

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Will the 4GB version werk in my W520?

I have 2x2GB and 1x4GB in it right now.

>>58915440
mSATA in the sandy bridge gen is slower than the SATA bay

>>58935061
Thanks lad

>>58935344
You forgot
>that bezel
>touchpad already disintegrating

>apply new thermal paste in HP elitebook from 2012
>temps go down by 30C
Really makes you think