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>Headphone purchase advice
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>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
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Previous thread: >>58847845

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>Budget
100 bucks
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop and Iphone
>Type of headphone
On ear
>Comfort level
Comfy enough to lay on my side with it on
>Sound signature
Doesn't really matter, just needs a decent soundstage for watching movies and shows. Maybe slightly warm for explosions
>Past headphones
Koss Portapros but they broke and I lost my warranty
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>>58876236
hd558 maybe
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just got a 250 ohm dt 770, it sounds dead without an amp
which one would you recommend out of these 3 fiios
e10k
e17k
a5

also is there any hack/software that might get the max power out of a laptop sound card until the amp arrives, or will it just be snake oil
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>>58875948
First for best budget headphones.
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Why not just build your own headphones? All you really need is good speakers, no?
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>>58876583
Agreed, anon. Why can't we just strap speakers onto our ears? Aren't speakers almost always better for the price compared to headphones?
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>>58876548
>on ear
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Just got some Grado 225s
Holy shit I had forgotten how awesome grados are.
They're like the headphone equivalent of etymotics.
I recommend them to anyone who doesn't care too much about sub bass and likes a lot of detailed crispy highs or mids.
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>>58876236
>On ear
>Big soundstage
Choose one
You probably could do well with some m80s. Can't think of anything else flat enough to lie on in that price range.
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>>58876563
Only the a5 is strong enough to drive those cans. You could always return them, and get a lower impedance, maybe?
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>Budget
$300 for Cans/AmpDAC Combo
>Location
USA
>Source
Currently FiiO K1, will build Classic 47
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
I'll be wearing them for 5+ Hours so fairly comfy
>Sound signature
Bassy/Balanced
>Past headphones
Pic Related and Superlux 681

I modded my 668B's yesterday by taking out the thin fabric filters behind the the vents and sound imo prefect. I'm stuck between T20RP's, DT 880's and K7XX/K712's. I'll be using these in order of importance: Music>Gaming (CSGO, BF4, Insurgency, osu!)>Movies
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>>58876583
>Why not just build your own headphones?
Most people don't have the right tools, time, materials, or know-how.

>All you really need is good speakers, no?
I assume you mean drivers/transducers, and no. Although a good driver is important, actual tuning and shaping itself is far more valuable to getting a competent sound. Getting a neutral sound takes a lot of trial and research. Especially if you're trying to make a closed headphone.

I'm currently in the process of building my own planars. Not easy unless you straight up follow someone else's design.

>>58876631
>Why can't we just strap speakers onto our ears?
Pretty much what AKG did with the K1000, which despite the retardo design, sound amazing.

>Aren't speakers almost always better for the price compared to headphones?
Depends at which price-range. After ~$150, pretty much always. A $30 IEM is going to sound a lot better than a $30 headphone, which should also sound better than a $30 set of speakers. A $70 IEM may sound better than a $70 headphone, which may sound better than a $70 set of speakers.

At ~!$150 I find is where it turns. $130 especially since the JBL LSR305's are sometimes priced there, which fucking stomp most headphones. Though don't forget you often have to factor in a amp/preamp, depending on the speaker.

Used market is something else though. My $30 bookshelves shat on my HD598's, and I still prefer them to my HD600's because of speakers actually having soundstage and imaging. They're pretty damn neutral, and with a sub thrown in they measure even better.
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>>58877086
I'd go with T20RP's. They have a lot of potential for modding, which youre clearly not afraid of since you modded your 668b's. Slap some HM5 hybrinds or the Shure Alcantaras on and you've got comfort city. K7XX/712/880's all have more bright highs if you find that an issue.
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>>58877238
>hybrinds
Fuck I'm cooked.
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>>58877251
lol, I actually don't mind the highs at all on my 668B's. My 681's sounded brighter than my 668B's now but thats coming from memory. So basically T20RP's if I'm willing to invest in modding, K7X/12/880's if I don't?
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>>58876815
there only other option is a 32 ohm, I want to buy a decent amp, and maybe upgrade the cans in a year or so.
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>>58877304
Pretty much. Yeah If you don't want to mod and don't mind the brightness of Superlux the AKGs/Beyer would do fine, but once you really get into heavy modding of the Fostex they can sound amazing. Tons of threads on headfi for T?0 series modding.
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>Budget
100 euro or less
>Location
Europe
>Source
PC, rear audio 3.5 jack
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Moderate, not too stuffy or warm. Wearing for long periods
>Sound signature
Sound-a-like Koss Porta Pro
>Past headphones
Porta Pro, I love em, but the cable's too short for PC and there's nowhere to add a mic
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Is there a cheaper alternative to Volbox?
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>>58877448
you mean a stereo volume pot?
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>>58877418
Thanks, I I'll probably get the T20's when I'm practically shitting out money. I'll probably grab the 880's. What's a decent AmpDAC combo that'll power both T20RP and K712/880's?
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>>58877541
What is your budget?
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>>58877558
$300 for both headphones and AmpDAC. $100-150 for AmpDAC
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>>58877489

I don't know what that is.
All I want is a volume control knob.
That one works through a potentiometer, I believe...
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Snagged a pair of AirPods today, and looks like they are still selling on eBay for around $300 (with overnight shipping - I work for a shipping company so US overnight is ~$8). I got em for $170 w/ tax.

Debating keeping them versus eBaying them. Although I know the quality isn't fantastic, it seems like it'd be neat for neatness sake, and I'm not hurting for money.

If I did sell them, what's good in the wireless IEM world? Is it still Jaybirds at the top?
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>>58877594
An E10K/M3/Fulla 2 should be able to power anything you throw at it unless you get something like T1's.
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>>58877646
Looks like I'm grabbing M3's, thanks.
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What brand is best for a small head? I have a problem with headphones being too bulky and clamping too hard.
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>>58877881
fill out the form and I'll try to help you out as a fellow pea head
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>>58877927
>Budget
Under like, $120.
>Location
USA
>Source
PC, cell.
>Type of headphone
Full headphone.
>Open or closed
Fine with either.
>Comfort level
Would appreciate softness. Some give me headaches due to CLAMP.
>Sound signature
A little bass is fine, but doesn't matter too much.
>Past headphones?
Superlux hd668b.
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e10k vs smsl m3?
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>>58877998
look into the HD 558. don't bother modding the pads like people will suggest, because I think it reduces the bass.
Definitely research them though before purchasing. They're pretty common in Best Buy's if you wanna demo one
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>>58878033
Thanks a bunch! Will look into.
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>>58875948

What are the best noise cancelling headphones money can buy? Do they have to be music headphones as well?

I'm willing to spend any amount of money
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>>58877448

https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/PC-USB-Wire-Controller-USB-Volume-Control-Knobs-Audio-Controller-for-Adjusting-Volume-of-Computer-Laptop/32649442146.html?spm=2114.10010308.1000022.1.D8TZdJ&isOrigTitle=true&isOrig=true#extend

Would this be a decent purchase?
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>>58878338
It seems he wants analogue control. What you linked would do digital.
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are there any good v shaped open backs besides the DT 990's?
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>>58878359

Is there a practical difference between the two?
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>>58878456
Depending on his output, yes. Some output types cant be controlled digitally. Analogue bypasses the DAC entirely and just limits the output.

Both digital and analogue volume control has their issues, but I'm not an audio/electrical engineer so I won't really say much about either.
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>>58878494

Intersting. I'll do more research about that then, thanks.
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Still waiting on the anon with the Shure Alcantara pads
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>>58878579
Im waiting too. They looked really cool. It'd be great if he measured them but I doubt thats realistic.
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>>58877541
The T50rp mkiii go on sale A LOT. I mean I've seen them drop in price back and forth $20-30, and i got mine for $120 on Amazon. Just woke up and they were cheap as shit
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>>58878599
I would love measurements, I have big ass ears, and want to finally get pads that take me alllll the way ;)
What cans are you thinking of getting them for?
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>Budget
300-400$
>Location
Russia, but can order in USA/Europe
>Source
Audio-GD NFB 15
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Moderate, not too stuffy or warm. Wearing for long periods
>Sound signature
Dunno, something neutral
>Past headphones
TAD-300TV, love them cause they light. KOSS PRO-4aa, love how they look but sound is shit.
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>>58875638
>what music do you listen to
Pretty much everything, ranging from classical to dubstep
>will you use it for gaming/movies or mainly music
Mostly for gaming, but also for movies and music
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>>58877998
like the other guy said. 558s will be as comfy as they get along with 598cs which are closed-back versions if you're looking for more bass.
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>>58878641
I meant measurements as in how the pads change the freq response lol.

Im considering doing the same thing he did, provided the FR isn't too shitty. I can just EQ it out, though no EQ would be preferable.

My HD600 pads just aren't really big enough for my ears either. It'd be nice to have the alcantaras on there as I've used them on the original 1540's, which were incredibly comfortable.
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I hop you guys are willing to answer general audio questions.

Currently I have a fuckhuge Sony receiver, that's not very good, and a pair of Audioengine P4s, and I want to downgrade the size of my setup while possibly upgrading the sound.

Is there anything around the size of a Schiit stack, but for passive speakers?
I'll wanna add a sub, once I get around to buying one.

>budget
$400 US max
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Are Sextetts any good if I've got an amp that can drive them? They've caught my eye lately.
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>>58877382
>>58876815
>>58876563
How do you know they're dead without an amp? The 770 250 ohm are very easy to drive. My motherboard is just as good as my fiio e10k
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I got the Fidelio X2 the other day right..

They are so good.

I think they are better than my 400i. Those were 350usd, X2 was 100.

I'm starting to think that my chinkshit might be broken.
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>>58881349
Probably just fits your tonal preference a lot better. Though X2's are a lot more comfy and better built.
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>>58877209
>Most people don't have the right tools, time, materials, or know-how.
I'd be interested in know how of headphone design because to me, it seems incredibly complex. You can't just start looking at T/S parameters and insert some values to get an ideal design here.
>K1000, which despite the retardo design, sound amazing.
I would say they sound like ass. Bright, no bass, stupidly low sensitivity, design that is hard to use.
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>Budget
~$100, I'd go up to $200 if there was something with really good bang/buck.
>Location
Western Australia, no matter what it is I'd have to get it shipped from overseas.
>Type
Full
>Open/Closed
Open, but I'm not fussed here.
>Comfort level
Maximum overcomfort, I love the ones with the wireframes and pads.
>Sound signature
I almost exclusively listen to downtuned guitar.
>Past headphones
I had 668b previously. It was great and I loved it. The only thing I disliked about it was how flimsy it felt.
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>>58881460
If you like 668b's, and dont find them sibilant, I can whole heartedly reccomend the DT990. Pretty similar to the 668b, but built better, and a lot more comfortable. 250ohm variants shouldnt need an external amp as long as your motherboard is from the past few years.
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>>58881513
Hm I don't really know enough about audio to be able to say for sure that I noticed something I'd called sibilant. Google describes it as a hissing sound? Is it like a slightly staticky sound? Either way I don't think there was enough to be offputting.
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>>58881538
>>58881513
people nowadays just say sibilant if it's bright and they don't like bright headphones

I think any terms to describe the sound other than bassy, neutral, balanced, v shaped & bright are just retarded
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>>58881558
Does bright mean a lot of treble?
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>>58881538
>oogle describes it as a hissing sound? Is it like a slightly staticky sound?
No, that is the noise floor in your source being picked up. Happens with more sensitive headphones, so the 990's shouldn't pick it up.

Sibilance is a sort of sharpness in the highs, usually common in vocals with 'S' in them, and high hats and the like. Somewhat of an annoying feeling, and if you're really sensitive it can induce pain. Both 668B's and the 990's are kinda common when it comes to that. If you don't notice that with your 668b's you should be good. I never found it an issue with 990's when I used them, but others didn't like it so much.

>>58881558
>people nowadays just say sibilant if it's bright and they don't like bright headphones
I mean, not really. Sibilance is more just describing the highs, not the sound as a whole.

>I think any terms to describe the sound other than bassy, neutral, balanced, v shaped & bright are just retarded
Although the terms you spoke about are useful, they're quite broad and dont really define a whole much. It requires elaboration, or better yet, measurements to give a better idea.
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>>58881562
yes
usually when it's used it means it has no to low boosted bass.
Otherwise it turns more into v shaped than bright

however sometimes it's used solely to describe how much treble it has, which is kinda silly

>>58881580
measurements are fine, but terms aren't
Now there's shit like hovering bass, fast bass, attacking sound, honky, juicy, laid back

like COME ON NIGGER LOOK AT ALL THIS SHIT AND TELL ME ALL OF THIS IS LEGIT
http://www.head-fi.org/t/220770/describing-sound-a-glossary
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Do the HD598s have similar bass to HD650s?

I want to get my brother a pair and I've heard from people that the bass in both HD598s and HD650s is lacking. Personally, I find the bass in the HD650s to be adequate and nice.
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>>58881605
Let your brother listen to your 650's and see what he thinks

598's have slighly more low end roll off. Has more mid/upper bass.
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>>58881628
>Let your brother listen to your 650's and see what he thinks
Yeah, he did. And his response was "These have enough bass, I don't know why people say they don't."
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>>58881580
>Sibilance is a sort of sharpness in the highs
Ah okay. I don't listen to anything with highs anyway. Maybe that's why I never noticed.
I'm looking at the 990s. What else are good about them aside from sound quality? I'm looking on amazon and they're listed at ~220 USD. How much can I get them for if I'm patient? I have headphones to use at the moment, I just don't like them much.
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>>58881639
598's should do pretty well for him then. They're not bad if you can get them cheap enough.

>>58881650
>What else are good about them aside from sound quality?

Build is a lot better, comfort is miles better, isolation is less, but 668b's dont isolate in the first place, so It doesnt really matter. Weight is a bit more.

> I'm looking on amazon and they're listed at ~220 USD
I've seen them quite a bit lower. Here:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-DT990-PRO-250ohm-Straight/dp/B010IJ9W1U/
Says it'll ship to me in Melbourne so I'd assume it ships to WA. Pro edition is pretty much just aesthetic differences with more durable pads [and if i remember right cable is better]
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>>58881829
>They're not bad if you can get them cheap enough.
Getting them for $165.
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>>58881380
The only part that the 400i seems to be better at is the mid tones.

X2 even has better highs than the 400i.

I'm running both out of a HA-2, so my source is good enough.
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any suggestions for an amp/dac for AKG K612PRO? I will only be using them on my PC, ideally at/under £150
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>>58883134
Fulla 2 if you need both, DAC and an amplifier.
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Anyone use any of teac's DACs/amps
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>>58876631
Not until you start breaking a grand.
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>>58883385
Nonsense. Different devices for different uses. Price points are useless. Loudspeakers at least present the stereo sound naturally.
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>>58878012
e10k
>>58878454
X2s probably
>>58879073
HD600
>>58881460
SHP9500
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>>58883859
What are the pros and cons to the E10K and SMSL M3?
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Fiio e10k or Fulla 2? FiiO is 86€ and Fulla 2 is 116€ or so with shipment.
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>>58884210
do you want a bass boost switch
if so e10k

if not, flip a coin, fulla 2 is better, but if it's 30$ better, nobody but you can decide
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>Budget
100 bucks, give or take 20.
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop and PS4
>Type of headphone
On ear
>Comfort level
I don't know
>Sound signature
It should sound better than my past headphone, which I will post below
>Past headphones
The only serious headphone set I've had is JVC HA-RX700. I actually ended up buying two! The reason being that my first pair broke, and I considered them to sound good enough to buy a second pair. Lo and behold, their fucking headphones break after a few months. The jack has to be jiggled around in the audio port before the sound actually plays clearly. Last time I buy anything from JVC.
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>>58884291
Just solder on a new 3.5 jack. They break all the time in every headphone, not just JVC.
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>>58884345
>tfw never learned to solder as a kid
It's easy, right? I'd have to split up the rubber wire or something like that. I think I did something similar in middle school with a car battery connecting to christmas lights.
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Let's try again

>Budget
Around £70
>Location
UK
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter
>Sound signature
Doesn't really matter. I listen to pretty much anything, ranging from classical music to electro/dub, if it can help
>Past headphones
Had a pair of Axent Wear for about 2 years, broke a few minutes ago and now I'm using a pair of old ass g430, possibly moldy
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So my modi has pretty much broken after 3 years of use. It looks like I have the same issues as this guy http://www.head-fi.org/t/766792/usb-dac-not-detecting-even-through-powered-hub-modi-wyrd and I've tried everything he did to no avail.
What's good in the world of DACs that isn't too expensive? Somewhere around $100 is where I am looking.
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>>58880038
anyone?
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>>58875948

>Budget
100 euro
>Location
Europe
>Source
Desktop PC
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Comfort level
Approximately 5 hours of continuous use without my ears feeling like they're going to fall off
>Sound Signature
w/e
>Past headphones
audio technica ath-tad300

Should I look into 7.1 headphones? I play quite a lot of video games on my spare time. Anyone has experience with such headphones? If I just use them for video games, are they actually worth it, do they make any difference?
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>>58884778
Some headphones use the bigger jack.

Like the HD598.
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>>58884210
>Fiio e10k or fulla2
https://www.audiobot9000.com/fiio/a/e10k

https://www.audiobot9000.com/schiit/a/fulla-2

The fulla2 provides way more power, has lower output impedance, and is super nifty (more outputs and inputs). It's also made in murika, instead of chink.
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>>58884531
Some more details if it can help, I'd mostly use them for gaming, but I occasionally do translations as well, so something that doesn't make voices sound like garbage?
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>Budget
~$200
>Location
USA
>Source
Bluetooth
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Not important
>Sound signature
Neutral

I've had the MDRXB950BT recommended to me, but what do you think, /g/?
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>Budget
50$
>Location
Turkey
>Source
Laptop
>Type of headphone
Working
>Open or closed
Dont care
>Comfort level
Comfort is for sissies
>Sound signature
bassy, warm
>Past headphones
5$ chink shit
im a broke nigger
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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-fostex-th-x00-ebony-headphones?1=1&utm_placement=0&referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open
X00s are back btw, but they're ebony

>>58885306
>bluetooth
rip
I legitimately can't think of any options that aren't complete garbage or out of your price range

>>58885340
668b/sr850
it's more v shaped to maybe even bright with a bass boost, but I think it's a better option than other things around your price point
alternatively, a second hand hd558/HM5/XPT100
if you can't find any of those, consider 8323 or th02
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>>58885411
thanks anon <3
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>>58885411
Okay, well consider my budget limitless. What would you recommend?
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>>58885507
Superlux 669/Samson SR950 also work. They're the closed variant of the 668B/SR850 if you want something more bassy.
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HM5 Hybrids or Shure 1540 Alcantara for the T50rp mkiii?
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>>58885562
I'd recommend getting a neutral or close to neutral headphone with a detachable cable and a bluetooth adapter instead of native bluetooth
for example MSR7, which I would have recommended if you were in EU because it's like 50$ more expensive in NA last time I checked.

The problem with bluetooth is that it's by nature something more active than normal headphones. As such, it's more likely that people want them during another activity, so it's more of an accessory than headphones. It's also more likely to be for the more mainstream market rather than the more professional market. The mainstream market mainly prefers either V shaped or Bassy, which is what most bluetooth headphones are (see MDR10RBT/XB950BT for bluetooth headphones that are good, but very bassy). Neutral headphones are mainly used by people who produce music, which don't have a need for wireless headphones. There are some people who prefer neutral for just listening to music, but they're a very very small minority.

Are you even sure you like neutral? For some reason people started thinking neutral as the "good" sound profile, while there is no good sound profile. Each has its own fanbase.

What headphones have you used before and what did you think about them?
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>>58885664
I'm basically a headphone virgin. I latched onto neutral as it sounded like the purest and therefore best representation of any given piece of music. You obviously know more than I do, though. I think headphones with a bass leaning are obnoxious, and drown out the higher sounds. Not to say that I dislike bass, but that I dislike it at the expense of treble. I guess I'd be looking for something bright or V-shaped.

I'd never considered going with a detachable cable and an adapter. That does sound like the best solution.
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>>58885306
>XB950bt
Doesn't fit the neutral target so well.
There's the upcoming ATH-DSR7BT (wireless MSR7) as an interesting candidate. AT will eventually drop the price a bit, as they usually do.

>I'm basically a headphone virgin. I latched onto neutral as it sounded like the purest and therefore best representation of any given piece of music.
Eh, preference is preference. You are free to experiment with a parametric EQ.
To some extent, the stock frequency response doesn't matter. Application of equalization can shape the response to whatever you like. There are no restrictions to how much you can manipulate the curve as long as the driver stays linear and you have the gain..


>>58885664
>The mainstream market mainly prefers either V shaped or Bassy
Not quite V-shaped. More like neutral + bass boost. At least 5dB more than upper end. Maybe a little more.
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>>58885904
If you've never had a good pair of neutral-ish headphones, I suggest you grab Sennheiser HD600. A cheaper alternative (an order of magnitude worse, but still really good value vs cost) is the HD598se, which goes crazy cheap on sales.

If you're slightly worried about neutral being not fun enough, the HD650 are slightly more fun, but still neutral aplenty.

These headphones are high impedance, so an amp (I suggest the Schiit Fulla 2) is strictly needed.

https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-600/with/schiit/fulla-2

http://schiit.com/products/fulla-2
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I bought the HD700 out of curiosity. If I like them I'll keep them, if not I'll stick to the HD650
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>>58875948
Just got my meme SHP9500 in about 10 minutes ago.

The comfort on the meme headphones is real. This is the first time I'm able to fit my whole ear into the pad without my earlobe or anything else touching it.

For me, it is the SHP9500. The best budget headphones for people with big heads and ears.
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>>58886697
Wish i was rich
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>>58886905
not doing what that anon did and similar things is how you get rich anon
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>>58886901
How do they sound though
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>>58886697
You showoff!

But I'll look down on you, too, once I get my HD800s :P
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>>58886925
Going to need more time with them to decide that. With a listen to one song so far though, they sound great.

My previous headphones were HD 668B's so I can only really compare it to that, and they sound pretty different.
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I'm not sure if this the right place for this but fuck it.

I have had an iPod Video for 11 years now and the HDD died. Should I buy an Iflash and replace the hdd or buy a new DAP?
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>>58886430
Thank you!
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>Budget
Up to 100€, but preferably cheaper

>Location
Spain

>Source
Phone

>Type of headphone
This will be my 'outside' phones, so portability is a must. Preferably on ears, but i'm open to anything

>Open or closed
Preferably closed, but I can do open

>Sound signature
Preferably as flat/neutral as possible. Decent bass/low freqs is a must

>Past headphones
Koss Portapros, which I loved til I lost them in NYE while drunk as fuck. I couldnt hear a thing when on the bus or riding a bike though, reason why I'm looking for closed cans now
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>>58887568
>Preferably as flat/neutral as possible. Decent bass/low freqs is a must
so you want bassy, not neutral?

Xpt100/HM5
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>Budget
$300 max

>Location
United States

>Source
Laptop/E10K

>Type of headphone
Full-sized, I guess

>Open or closed
Open back

>Comfort level
Don't really care, but not too uncomfortable

>Sound signature
Not really sure, I'm thinking neutral.

>Past headphones
ATH-M50x were my first and currently only 'real' headphones. I had a Skullcandy Hesh2 before that which sounds like shit to me now.

I was thinking of maybe getting an AKG K702 or a K712, what do you think, /g/?
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>>58887759
X2
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>>58887727
well, a pair of headphones can be fairly neutral and not be able to handle low freqs. I want them with proper bass, but not so much that it dominates
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>>58887727

thanks for the rec btw
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>>58887759
hd600/400i
AKG's K7 line is bright, not neutral

as a comparison, m50x are neutral to bassy,if you liked those, you might prefer hd650/hd6xx over hd600
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>>58887759
akg 240
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>>58887759
AKG's are bright so if you think you'd like that go for it. Otherwise HD600.
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>Budget
$250 Hard limit
>Location
USA
>Source
Straight to my computer, might look into an amp in the future.
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
!!!Closed!!!, high priority as the headphones I have now have little to no isolation.
>Comfort level
Also high priority, wear these for 6+ hours at a time. At the moment, I have aftermarket earpads on my m50s if you need an idea.
>Sound signature
no preference
>Past headphones
atx m50 (xDDDD)
Like I said the main problem I have with these at the moment is that they have no isolation, otherwise the past 2 years or so I've had them have been pretty good.
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>>58888121
DT770
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>>58887727
just looked those up, those are way too big
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>>58887568
Maybe M40X's with HM5 Pleathers?
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>Budget
Preferably under $300, but up to $400
>Location
United States
>Source
Mobo with built in amp for now, but willing to buy dedicated equipment
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized over ear
>Open or Closed
Open
>Comfort level
I wear headphones for long periods of time, so I'd be fine sacrificing a little sound quality for more comfort.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral to warm, but neutral preferred. Also looking for something with an excellent soundstage for gaming.
>Past headphones
Old style purple ATH-AD700's. I loved these phones to death, but they're really starting to show wear and tear after five years.

Been thinking about K702/K712 lately.
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>>58887759
Thanks for all the recommendations.
So I'm thinking of going with the HD600 which is apparently very neutral from what I read.
My next question is, would the HD600 be a good complement to my current m50x? If the m50x is neutral to bassy, then it sounds like having something bright would be a better compliment.
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>>58888399
Oh, I forgot to mention, I listen to mostly weab music if that will be of any help.
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Recommend me really comfortable and well-built open-back headphones for a big noggin. Don't really care about the sound signature.

I've got HD600 and Fidelio X2 currenly. HD600 are really unbearable even after streteching and while X2 are better, they're literally coming apart on my head, the inner screws that attach the cups to the band are coming loose and I have to surgically tigthen them with a hooked micro screwdriver every day.
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>>58888186
only decent on ears I know of are momentums

>>58888399
complement isn't naturally a good thing

Imagine bassy to you is like bacon
well the opposite of bacon is a salad or something

just because it's the opposite doesn't mean you'll like it

It's a good thing to try out, definitely, if you're in a store and they have a 7506 or a K702 or a SHP9500 you can try out, do it. But spending 200$ on something "because it's different" isn't exactly a good idea.

If you don't like how the m50x sounds, bright might be a good option

Another option is going the opposite of neutral and getting something v shaped/balanced. DT990/DT880 respectively.

I'd say, if you can, go test out headphones somewhere nearby to find out what you like

>>58888332
400i is probably your best bet, but HD600 & 650 are good options too.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE4002014.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHAD700.pdf

>>58888121
m50x should isolate quite well. Since they have a lot of clamp and are closed.
Maybe the isolation was removed due to the pads change?
DT770 will be far more comfortable, however less isolation than m50x.

maybe get something with active noice cancellation like bose's quietcomfort line?
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>>58888439
I listen (and enjoy) to a lot of love live / idolmaster on my HD598, which are neutral-ish.

I imagine HD600 would be even more awesome.

chihaya's "aoi tori" and umi's solo in "datte datte aa mujou" are particularly amazing.
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>>58888399
>>58888439
Depends on the weebshit you're listening to. If it's a lot of bassy electronic jpop or anison/remixes then it's nice to have a bassy closed back, and that can apply to electronic music in general. 650's are "good enough" for that kind of stuff but I much prefer using my closed backs for that most of the time.

>>58888585
Nemuri Hime is my favorite Chihaya song and one of my favorites from the franchise in general and it sounds perfect through 650's, probably just as good through 600's.
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>>58888730
Very envious of your HD650!

Bit random personal preference, but I find the relatively unknown/ignored 禁恋歌 by azusa miura pretty good.

Shitty recording from game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBlEEn4f-LQ
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>>58888538
Forgot to mention that I've been considering Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro and AKG812 since both seem to be comfy and built like tanks so any feedback on those is welcome.
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>>58884895
>Gaymer
>Surround Sound

It all sucks, don't bother.
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>>58888545
>m50x should isolate quite well.
Perhaps I have an unrealistic idea of how much isolation I should be expecting? I'll be listening to music+white noise simultaneously at high volume and I can still hear my roommate (talking at regular volume) sitting about 7 feet away from me. Will I need to invest into something with active noise cancellation in order to get the isolation I want?
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>>58884895
Gamer headphones/headsets are all shit no exceptions. Don't waste your money.

I'd suggest splunging a little and getting HD598se. They're really cheap at times (watch for amazon sales). They're also crazy comfortable. Open back, neutral signature, good soundstage (what matters the most for gaming imho).
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>>58887568
My go to rec for closed portable cans are the Creative Aurvana Lives.

Pretty neutral with a bass bump, light and comfy enough too, cheaper than what other anons have suggested too.
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>>58888982
are you still using pleather pads on m50x?
cloth pads tend to not seal very well if at all, so a lot of sound can still get in that way
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>>58888992
>Gamer headphones/headsets are all shit no exceptions
you forgot hyperx cloud

>>58884895
no difference, have a look at XPT100/HM5 or DT770
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>>58889013
head-fi reviews seem overwhemingly positive. I would've never given these cans a second thought, them looking cheap and the brand being a noname and whatnot. Thanks for the rec
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what would you recommend to someone who is fairly happy with his Portapros but wants an upgrade, but still fairly small headphones? No IEMs
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>>58888870
I own the k812. Tbh you'll probably find the comfort of the beyers more to your liking.

The clamping force on the k812 is way too light, even on my rather large head. I need to keep my head upright most of the time, as they slide around with any leaning back/forward. I own the X2 as well, and the clamping force on that is more to my preference.

Sonically, the k812 makes a few of my favorite tracks rather unlistenable. If there's any bit of sibilance in a song, the k812 will emphasize that and will do so quite aggressively. It's going to be a very bright headphone transitioning from your hd600 and x2.

I haven't heard the dt 1990, so I can't comment on it.
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>Budget
$120 hard cap.
>Location
USA, north west.
>Source
Laptop. USB ports taken up, it needs to be a 3.5mm
>Type of headphone
Full, over ear.
>Open or closed
Closed preferably.
>Comfort
Something that doesn't physically hurt to wear.
>Sound signature
Neutral? No real preference.
>Past headphones
Cheap $30 shit from Radioshack.

These'll be used mostly for music but a bit for gaming too. Thanks ahead of time.
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>>58889029
>you forgot hyperx cloud

Coworker has them, so I've tried them. They're garbage next to proper headphones, like my HD598se, or even the HD380 Pro I use at work.
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>>58889360
Damn that's a shame, they looked really sweet.
I find the clamp force on X2 just right, they sit tightly but comfortably.
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>>58889564
just because you don't like treble doesn't mean they're bad, they're on the same tier as 598
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>>58889740
I'm fine with treble, else I wouldn't use the MMU stack.

But no, they just don't sound anywhere as good. Not by far. By very far.

FFS, they're closed. I wouldn't dare think of them as in the same tier as HD598 with their awesome low THD and amazing soundstage.
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Can I ask for a microphone? I already have a headphone but I need a mic.

>Budget
Around 20€
>Location
France
>Source
Laptop
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>>58883859
>X2s probably
I thought those are "dark"
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>>58889877
>closed are inherently worse than open
are you literally retarded, they serve different purposes
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>>58889922
Sony ECMCS3
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>>58889922
zmmic1
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If I purchased a top-priced custom IEM second-hand on the cheap, would it be possible to remold the custom bit to fit my ear? Can you remold an original custom fit?
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>>58890019
>>58890029
Thanks guy, the sony looks better so I think I'll go for that?

It's better than the huge crappy looking stuff for the same price right?
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>>58875948
>Philips SHB9150BK
Is it good, is it bad? I want it to replace my now-dead sennheiser HD 202. Would this philips be an upgrade?
It sure looks pretty.
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>>58890157
I've done a lot of sound comparisons and I've seen the ZMMIC beat the ECMCS3 every single time
if you don't care about the sound quality THAT much, sure get the ECMCS3, but I think it's also more expensive?

>>58890066
>price = quality
I hope you did research on it before you bought it
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>>58890219
The ZMMIC is slightly more expensive but I'm not really good at judging this stuff, I listened to recording of both and the ECMS3 seemed to sound clearer.

Thanks man, I'll trust you on this then.
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>>58890276
if the ECMCS3 is cheaper & you prefer the sound & look of ECMCS3, there's no reason not to get it honestly
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>>58890319
Well I'm not buying right away so I might still check a bit more but I don't really trust my own hearing, and I'm not calling myself so I'll ask the other party instead.
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>>58890157
Sony mic sounds amazing for the price. Far better than any other mic ive ever used
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>JBL E45BT
Is this good? I got them with a reduction for 60€ so the price sounds fair but it's not really comfortable and especially there's an annoying noise made by the cushions when turning around, I had to put some tissue to stop this. I wouldn't know about the sound though.

https://www.jbl.com/bluetooth-headphones/JBL+E45BT.html
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>>58889018
Using cloth ones, I guess I'll order some of the pleather ones and see if that makes a difference. Thanks!
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>Sony sbh60
Is this headphone just a meme or it's actually good? It's sony after all.
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>>58890456
have a look at the hm5 ones, or if you want to treat yourself, auray sheepskin/alpha lambskin
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>>58890584
>judging products based on brands
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>>58875948
Anyone own HM5 Hybrids?
They say they're memory foam, but they seem pretty stiff and create a lot of distance from the driver
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Is pulse a good brand?
>>
mdr-v6 or go home.
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>>58890066
>would it be possible to remold the custom bit to fit my ear
Maybe.
Remolding services exist, not for all types of shell material.
For certain brands, receivers may be glued in place and not easily extracted.
>If I purchased a top-priced custom IEM second-hand on the cheap
They're on the cheap because remolding costs money.
But as a heads up, price doesn't relate to sound quality, and they often do worse than lower priced counterparts.
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dac/amp combo mostly for desktop use to drive relatively high-impedance phones (HD598's and GT1350's).

I don't want to kill the bank. >$200

For a point of reference, I actually have one of those FIIO E11 portable amps and found it below par (hissiness, battery power only).

pls help me /g/, /mu/ is full of 15 year olds who don't know anything.
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What are some good but not extremely expensive IEMs?

I didn't fill out the form because I wouldn't use them everyday and I just don't need anything specific, I just need them to sound good (not godtier or anything) and be comfortable.

What do you guys think? What would be an acceptable price for something like this?
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I want a headset for gayming and I admit to be a sucker for brands like corsair.
I happened to see this "Corsair Raptor HS40 CA-9011122-NA", and although its reviews say it's pretty good, the specs seem to be mediocre at best.
What should I look besides the announced specs in a phone?
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>Budget
Up to 300
>Location
Canada
>Source
My mp3 player, android or work laptop
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Comfort is pretty important
>Past headphones
My current IEMs are JVC HA FX34
Sennheiser HD598

I'd like a pair of headphones for my commute to work. I find that the JVC earphones pop right out of my ear after the slightest movements.
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>Budget
$A300
>Location
Australia
>Source
PC, phone with amp, digital piano
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High
>Sound signature
Decent bass yet balanced
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD598
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>Price
Less than $75
>Location
USA
>Source
Android phone
>Type
IEM
>Comfort
Sound is more important, but please none that feel awful
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Have ATH-Meme50s and borrowing Samsung Galaxy 7 IEMs
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>need new headphones for mixing, mastering and occasional listening
>tried out ath r70x in store today

My original budget was ~150 but now I'm seriously considering dropping 350 on these, that's how amazing they were. Am I crazy?
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>>58883859
>SHP9500
That's much cheaper than the other recommendation I got, the DT990s, what kind of sacrifices do I make for something so much cheaper?
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>>58891331
Are they that good? Is there any bass?
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Cirno FLAC Internet Radio: https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac

Only those with superior Stax headphones are allowed to listen.
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>>58891492
Comparing them to m50xs, a550xs and some $500 b&ws I tried out as well, they have a vast soundstage and delicate balance to their sound. Although they were the only open pair I tried out (great bass for open phones, imo). Also very comfy and light.

>tfw I sound like a shill now
>>
If you're not buying MDR-7506 you're the most ultimate pleb.
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>>58891597
Jesus christ, how do you even wear that autism?

>>58891708
I had ATH-AD700 in the past and loved them, shame the nobass though.
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>>58889298
Modded Porta Pros.

Seriously, there is a ton of mods for them, and various other Koss on ears. Kramer mod and all that shit.

Grados may be an interesting upgrade but theyre quite bass-light in comparison the Porta Pros. You'd have to hear them first.
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>>58891492
Kinda like Senn HD650, but a bit more bassy/midbassy.

>>58891331
It's not bad.
We put this in the headphone guide some time back.
It doesn't get a lot of love though.
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>Budget
$100
>Location
Brazil
>Source
PC, mp3 music, games
>Type of headphone
full-size, bluetooth/wireless/etc.
>Open or closed
don't care
>Comfort level
don't care
>Sound signature
don't care
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 202 II

I just want something like my old sennheiser but wireless because I always break the wires. The biggest problem is finding decent headphones locally.
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>>58891114
You should look for something that isn't a gaymer headset.

Get SHP9500 that everyone shills and a boom pro and it'll be 100x better than whatever gaming snake oil corsair is selling.
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>>58891485
If you like the 668b's, the SHP's have a similar sound, probably a little less bass. A better sound overall I would imagine. (Never tried the Superlux, might for the shits)

Their profile is pretty well known here.

Clear, bright sound, adequate bass. Big comfy pads with a pretty loose clamp. Great soundstage for vidya and movies/weeb shit.

My huge ears touch the drivers slightly but I find them very comfortable.

If you get them from a place with a return policy they're well worth a try.
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>>58892345
>the SHP's have a similar sound
They really don't. 668b's have a heavy midbass peak, and a sharp peaks in the highs

9500's are a fair bit more toned back in the highs, although still fairly bright, but the low-end isn't remotely close to 668b's.
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>>58892227
>>58892345
too bad these meme phones aren't available in shit countries like Brazil.
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>>58891114
Hey anon, I have had its little brother, the HS30 before and it sounded like nasally bullshit. I can't imagine the HS40 as much better buy, as it is essentially the same headset but with a soundcard implemented into it instead.

I would recommend trying out budget non-gaming headphones instead, preferably open-backed for their sweet, sweet, soundstage.
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>>58892370
That sounds awful, why do people shill for them so hard?
>>
What do you guys think about phones with detachable cables?
Some anon in a previous thread suggested using a phone with detachable cable and plugging one of those bluetooth receivers in it if you wanted a wireless experience. Did any of you tried that? What happens with the sound quality in this scenario?
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>>58892497
>That sounds awful, why do people shill for them so hard?
The 668b's?
Because they're cheap, and once the highs are toned down either with EQ or just some paper/foam/fabric filter over the driver, and you get some $5 K240 pads, they're a really quite good headphone. Good deep soundstage, and great imaging. Bass has a fair bit of impact but not much boomy-ness.
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>>58892502
Ill assume you mean a headphone, not an actual headphone. I've used a Bluetooth receiver with some removable cable headphones. Works fine as long as they're not hard to drive. Sound is of course not as good as wired, but that goes with any Bluetooth. Just try and find a BT4.0 one, preferably with APTX, and you'll get the most out of it.

Its fine for watching movies/tv shows, or even just relaxed listening, but I wouldn't use it for critical listening.
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>>58892618
>Ill assume you mean a headphone, not an actual headphone
fuck now im drunk
I meant
Ill assume you mean a headphone, not an actual mobile phone
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>>58892640
hah, that's what I thought anon. Thanks for the advice,
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>>58889509
Hm5
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>>58892549
Thanks anon, you have given me conflicting feelings now.
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>>58892549
That's pretty spot on with why I love these headphones. Rather than tone the highs down with dampening, I took the filter out from behind the vents. Now they sound clean and the bass is tighter.
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I've been using my X2s with an audio interface that has an output impedance of 7 Ohms. Now I'm realizing that this isn't a great match according to the "1/8" rule since the X2s are 35 Ohms.

Is the mismatch a big enough problem to warrant buying an amp with a low output impedance? I'm thinking about grabbing a Magni 2 and connecting it to the line out RCA on my interface.
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>>58893770
Nah it's bullshit, test it by plugging them into your phone or w/e and compare the sound.
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>>58893837
It's not noticeably different on my iPhone, although I haven't tried listening for an extended period of time. I'll probably hold off since I have no other need for an amp.
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Are all Sennheiser's pretty weak on bass?

Every now and then I'll throw on my old HD280's for nostalgia's sake (first real headphones).

I like the evenness of the tone and the smooth high end, but the lack of bass is pretty profound.
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>>58894372
Aren't some of their closed headphones really bassy?
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>>58894388
I think the Urbanites and Momentum's are, never tried them though.
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>>58885653
Hybrids if you have large ears, alcantaras if you don't.

though both are fairly large
alcantaras are more comfy but isolate less.
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>>58894372
Not all, but a lot. Their more portable oriented headphones tend to be fairly bassy. Some of the 4XX series is also pretty bass heavy.
>>
My HD662 EVOs just came in. Tested them out and they leak so much sound. Is this normal for closed headphones? My DT 770s never had a problem like this before.
>>
Opinions on Audioquest Nighthawk?
>>
>>58897028
Very dark. Quite unique sounding and quite comfortable.

You really have to listen to one to know if you would like them.
>>
What do you guys think about the Sennheiser HD 461g?
It's one of the few headphones available to buy here that seems to be decent.
>>
>>58897074
That's the thing; i live in a small town and can never try headphones before i buy them. Every purchase is a gamble.
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>>58897242
They're expensive enough that you should probably travel to somewhere that you can try them before buying, even if it costs a bit.
>>
>>58884531
>>58885013
Anyone?
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>>58884531
Brainwavz HM5, it's on your Amazon. Comfy, closed and they have a pretty nice balanced sound.
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>>58884531
>>58885013
>>58897279
for gaming something like HM5/XPT100 or DT770 or hyperx cloud would be best
for translations & classical music, something like 7506 would be best

I'd say get either the hyperx cloud or the dt770
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>Budget
AU$100 ≈ US$75
>Location
Australia
>Source
OP3T, normally listen to mp3 but if I can notice the difference i'll switch
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
whatever, I can get Comply tips separately if I need to
>Sound signature
Warm/neutral
>Past headphones
EarPods
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>>58897690
if you can, se215 are really good & bassy
if not, e10 is also really good & v shaped
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>>58897771
Found the se215 for 60AU, gonna get them now cheers
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>>58897911
those sound too cheap to be real
is the site trustable?
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>>58897955
looks like it, was on a sale and from what I've seen its reputable so I'll see I guess
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>>58898109
by the way, if you can, get the clear version, I've heard it has a better cable & some other small advantages
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I cant handle over ear headphones anymore, I cant listen to 5 minutes of music without my ears getting hot, I tried switching to velour same shit.

My question is should I opt for In Ear headphones or On ear what is more comfortable for you ?

i listen to all genres of music, mostly modern shit and some bassy music sometimes. I also listen to music outside half the time, thanks guys.
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>>58898154
whoops ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>58898169
over ear
I can't use in ear or on ear for more than half an hour before my ears start physically hurting
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>>58893770
The 1/8 ratio rule isn't a real rule. It's an oversimplification of underlying phenomenon. Damping factor is not at all the same thing as damping.
You can look at the system's behavior via equivalent circuit. The voltage drop, the response shift, is dependent on the impedance of the components.


>>58898169
>over ear headphones
What make and model?
>>
>Location
USA
>Source
Bluetooth
>Type of headphone
Wireless earbuds (I mean I guess if they come with detachable cables for wired listening that's a plus)
>Open or closed
Earbuds
>Comfort level
Maximum, but I'll take what I can get
>Sound signature
Idk
>Past headphones
Monoprice earbuds & headphones
>>
>>58898450
jaybird bluebuds X (the first)
if you want an upgrade, skip X2 & have a look at jaybird X3
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>>58898422
I used around 6 different models over the year from cheap to expensive and I faced the same issue...is it safe to assume that in ear is more comfortable than on ear ?
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>>58898580
Being closed or open back is more of a factor. Openness of the baffle would also influence.
Price doesn't tell me anything.

As for in-ear, some people flat out hate objects in their ear.
Earpieces can be tubby, eartips can be excessively hard, poorly shaped corners or cable joints can jut into the pinna or something.
I still like in-ears.
>>
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akgk812?referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open

how do these compare to HD800?
I've never even heard of these
>>
>Budget
100€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Mostly PC
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
IEM
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
Mostly hiphop, electronic music
>Past headphones
Panasonic RP-HJE120E-K
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>>58899425
Bright, and pads are a bit funky.

Though same can be said about the HD800

soundstage isnt as good as the 800's but the imaging is better

dont really remember how it sounded since i didnt get long with it
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>>58899547
see >>58897771
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>>58899425
Massdrop sells this for about the same price as HD800 new. HD800 accessories cost more, I think.

Overall a bit more sensitive.
Much more midbassy than HD800.
Has upper midrange unlike the HD800. Tends to come off as more uneven.
Treble peaks, very likely diaphragm breakup. More nonlinear around breakup and for rest of spectrum.

I don't like it, wouldn't take it over HD 800. Then again, I don't like the HD800 that much either.
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>>58899643
I thought the HD800 was the go to for endgame, what do you like then?
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>>58899425
>compared to HD 800
Similar broad boost in high bass/low midrange, not as big of a notch in upper midrange, bright and more sibilant due to large magnitude peaks in higher treble. Treble region is very uneven, extremely hard to EQ. Rather high amount of distortion and not as linear overall. Highly likely to be less consistent and stable with its response. Some report clamp low enough that they slide off your head. Good quality construction, a bit higher sensitivity.
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>>58899627
thanks
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>>58876631
>>58877209
Headphones have lower distortion then speakers and retrieve detail much better, vocals don't sound on LSR305 as good an detailed as they do on HD600. But speaker's soundstage is miles ahead of even phones like hd800. I didn't hear any planar speakers tho yet, thouse are supposed to be dead clean.
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>>58899764
>Headphones have lower distortion then speakers and retrieve detail much better
They don't and these aren't related. On any decent product(headphone or loudspeaker) the distortion is kept low enough to be inaudible or at the very least, not objectionable. Retrieving detail is an awful term that doesn't mean anything specific.
>vocals don't sound on LSR305 as good an detailed as they do on HD600
This couldn't be more subjective. It depends on the production, too. As for detailed, you'll have to quantify it. LSR305s are much flatter but even if you equalize both for the same frequency magnitude response, difference in loudspeaker sound reproduction makes them rather fundamentally different. When used properly they have a soundstage unlike headphones.
>I didn't hear any planar speakers tho yet, thouse are supposed to be dead clean.
Even without knowing what do you mean by "clean", I can't think of a single good planar loudspeaker or an electrostatic one at that.
>>
i need a headphone for extended masturbation sessions im willing to pay 50 bucks for it
mainly i want to beat it to poorly drawn japanese cartoons
please help
>>
>>58899688
>I thought the HD800 was the go to for endgame
I should restate that.

The HD800 is generally competently designed. Decently linear, decently smooth transfer function, highly stable response. I guess you can call it a high-end model.
These properties make it very easy to equalize, convolve, and so on, but I don't like the slightly V-shaped sound it has. The below average sensitivity frustrates digital EQ overhead for weaker devices that lack voltage gain, especially when fixing the 1-4 kHz dip the HD800 has.

>what do you like then?
I don't have to like anything, I can just be an overly picky asshole.
More seriously, there's preference and I have my priorities. It's not just about the sound, it's also about wearing the headphone around and being free to use it with what ever devices I like.

I suppose the Ether fits okay.
The HD600 is okay-ish as is.
>>
>>58899688
HD800S is commonly considered to be the best dynamic headphone. Some people will prefer some planars though such as the LCD-X, HE-1000, or electrostatics such as anything by Stax.
>>
Are opinions on head-fi worth considering at all? They seem to just hype everything as great even if most other people would call it placebo.

>spending $2000 vs $500 on a DAC is a meaningful difference in sound quality
>HD800's are really picky and you won't get your money's worth unless you spend >$1000 on an Amp
>If you're prepared to spend $3,500 on an SR-009, you might as well triple it to $10,000 so you can get a Blue Hawaii and a Yggdrasil. Otherwise why even bother?
>>
The leather headband on my dt 770 is getting discolored at the right side(some of the black color is turning white). How do i repaint it, the replacement is for 15$ but the delivery charge is 90$ for anything less than 5 kg
>>
>>58900955
Stax are planar.
LCD-X and HE1k are dynamic (F = [B × L] * I).

>>58901083
>Are opinions on head-fi worth considering at all?
How much can you talk about sound quality without describing the sound? This is what reading head-fi is like.
Reviews have an irksome tendency to be useless at sound quality. Common audiophiles can neither discern nor describe sound. They don't know or want to know acoustics or circuits, even at a simplified level. Plenty of that here too. At least they can tell you things about fit and construction.

>even if most other people would call it placebo
It's not exclusively placebo, that's not the most correct word to use here. Some of the suggestions do make a real difference and not necessarily for the better. OTL tube amps with high output impedance, oversized and noisy amplifiers that blow out headphones on power cycle, component choices adopted for the sake of being contrary, and so on.

You'll have to learn a little bit about how these work to effectively sift through for information. The difficulty of teaching this is condensing the information to be as easily comprehended as possible, without leaving gaps.
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>>58875948
Just got my new pair of headphones

any tracks to test it?

also how long does it take to break in SR850's?
>>
>>58901869
Any track you are familiar with. You don't break in headphones.
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>>58876236
Look into the urbanites from Sennheiser. Might not be exactly what you are looking for, but they are good for the price.
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>Budget
$50 - $70
>Location
USA
>Source
Moto /g/ and Motherboard
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough for long sessions (+8 hours)
>Sound signature
Neutral preferred, but if not possible, anything. Soundstage is more important. I need this to work for my listening and gaming needs.
>Past headphones
Nothing good. Just crappy $10 earbuds.
>>
>>58901909
>>58901909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fk2prKnYnI
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>>58902211
bump because of the exact same interest
>>
>>58902224
>Testing headphones with YouTube audio
>>
>>58902211
Shp9500, ath ad 500x, status audio ob-1 is pretty good if I remember right since it's just a pair of some somic headphones, and potentially the spadger open headphones on amazon. I'm not sure if anyone has done a review of the spadger headphones though.
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Been out of the headphone buying game for a while. Not seeking buying advice(yet) just curious to see what has changed in the past few years. Does this guide hold any merit any more? A lot listed are discontinued or have undergone price changes. Does Koss still make any decent earbuds? Seems like Seinheiser still makes consistently good headphones.
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>>58888538
Search youtube for "HD6XX PSA"
Thank me later.
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>>58901083
I think >>58901562 put it better than i could but it's a decent place for specific kind of information as long as you know enough to filter all the junk out which there is an abundance of. For discussions of sound quality the place is horrid and serves mostly to confuse people who are newcomers to things audio, if it's knowledge you are looking for. Moderation doesn't do it any good either. You are not allowed to criticize or call out bullshit of most products and bans are handed swiftly.

You can make decent second hand deals in there.
>>
>>58883374
s-s-ss-s-someone?
>>
What's the best closed headphone under $50. Wanna hear some bass.
>>
>>58902797
how come the HD25 seems to be made of robust plastic, but all their other shit is cheap, brittle plastic?
>>
>Budget
<$150
>Location
Canada
>Source
Motherboard
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Preferably open
>Comfort level
All the way, as long as it sounds good enough
>Sound signature
Doesn't matter, as long as it's max comfy
>Past headphones
Corsair HS30, Steelseries Siberia 650, Panasonic RP-HTX7, Philips SHP9500S

Do me well, anons.
>>
>>58903789
Superlux HD 669/Samson SR950
>>
>tfw ordered new pads and waiting for them to come in
>>
>Budget
Up to £150
>Location
UK
>Source
Laptop
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Don't mind
>Comfort level
Max comfy
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Superlux 668B
>>
>Budget
~100
>Location
US
>Source
PC/Phone
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
These will be my work phones, so max comfort.
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
SHP9500, CAL, HD280.

Looking for some closed cans to use at work to listen to music and make some calls.

Already have a boom pro so it'd be nice to have something that's compatible with it. For that reason I was leaning towards the Status Audio CB-1.

Also considering the M40x, since there's a chink boom pro you can get for them. My misgiving with that is that everyone says I'll need to get news pads which adds to the expense.

HM5 might be what I want, but they'd require a modmic or something similar and I'm not too keen on the extra wire.

Any thoughts anon?
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How wrong can I go with the MDRXB950BT? I've been thinking of picking them up for $200, and the price dropped to $128. They have all the options I'd like, bluetooth or wired, the price is fair, and they fit nice when trying them on in store. Do you guys have any opinion of these?
>>
OK, got 2 pairs of SHP 9500, when they first came that they sounded muddy out of the box, connected them to burn in unit for the past 4-5 d. I know many don't believe in burn in, suggest "brain burn in" is responsible, but I didn't listen to these over the time so I wouldn't just acclimate to their sound and get to like it. Going to burn them in more, but they definitely changed character. They have become much more open, detailed, extremely musical and natural, still do have slightly recessed mids but the initial muddiness I didn't like seems to be gone (just a short listen, not my best gear, an iPod Mini into a Denon DA-10 that I'm also burning in), will connect it to my Pono later when I have some time (so far, Pono is the best player I've had in my possession, which includes i devices, Fiio X3, iBasso DX90, HTC One M8 phone, Samsung Ypp-whatever player).
Not a bad buy for the price at all IMO!
>>
do portapros still come with life long warranty?
>>
>>58904810
I just got shp9500 today and they sound amazing to me but it might be because they are my first headphones
>>
>>58904780
do you want bassy headphones?
if so, they're good if you want bluetooth & ehh if you don't mind

if you don't mind & want bassy, consider XPT100 or HM5 instead
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is it worth buying a Beyer dynamic DT 880/990 250 ohm for $140 with no amp, or buying this setup (in my pic)
>>
>>58905762
What do you have that can play music right now?
A high end smartphone from Apple, Samsung or HTC will drive them to tolerable levels while you save up 60 bucks and get at least a Fiio Q1 or e10k.
>>
>>58906164
>HTC
That reminds me: a measurement of HTC 10. Written in Spanish, but still easily read in English.

>http://headphoniaks.com/blog/smartphone-iphone-6s-htc-10-meizu-pro5/
>>
>>58904564
the fuck happened to her face?
>>
>>58902732
>12-17-09

this needs to be updates since the prices on most of these headphones are a lot cheaper, and better alternatives have popped up.
>>
>>58904850
pretty sure all Koss do
>>
>>58906164
mainly from my PC. now this might be a stupid question but when I plug my HD 681 into my Logitech Z-2300 control pod the sound is like 2 to 3 times louder compared to when I plug them into headphone jack on my PC and Ipod Nano, does that mean the Logitech Z-2300 are providing more power??
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>>58906648
>does that mean the Logitech Z-2300 are providing more power??
yes
>>
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>>58906678
http://www.head-fi.org/t/460490/does-the-logitech-z-2300-have-an-amp-inside

makes sense, so it shouldn't be a problem powerful DT 880 or 990 250 Ohm headphones??

thinking I would use Signstek HIFI as the dac and the Z-2300 as the amp.
>>
>>58902732
>Does this guide hold any merit any more?
More than half of the models are discontinued. It's not useful.
>what has changed in the past few years.
How many years is a few? New companies, new products and the sort.

In the last 3 or 4 years:
-Etymotic finally stopped production of the ER-4S/4B after more than 25 years. Now we have the ER-4XR and 4SR.
-The pricing of gear has shot up. More boutique makes and models around.
-A general trend to more sensitive over ear headphones.

Should I go further back?
>>
>>58904679
Bumpity bump
>>
>>58903966
Anyone?
>>
>>58907712
What don't/didn't you like about the SHP's?

Sennheiser hd598 is in your price range.
>>
>>58907831
I love them to death, but I would also like to experiment with other sound signatures.

I would grab the HD 598s, but they're ~$200 here in Canada; as with the rest of the 500 series lineup. I'm surprised I even managed to grab the 9500 for $70.
>>
Thinking of getting either Audeze LCD2 or ZMF Vibro MKII
Which one lads?
>>
>>58908583
ZMF Eikons
>>
>>58907964
I don't know of many open cans that would fall within your price range.

If you go the closed route, HM5 are highly recommended around here.

Sony 7506/V6 would probably be a sound signature you'd enjoy.
>>
>>58908637
Thanks, anon. I'll look into those.
>>
>>58801958
hee hee
I actually have a crystal tied to the side of my headband.
>>
>Budget
$250 +/- $30
>Location
US
>Source
Phone, laptop
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
High Isolation a must
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
Don't care, mostly low bass music
>>
>>58875948
>Budget
$200, but willing to go up to $300 if an amp is necessary or if I can get a much better pair with no amp required
>Location
South America
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Top priority. As comfortable as possible.
>Sound signature
don't care
>Past headphones
gaming trash

If I can get something with a removable cable that can fit a BoomPro, it would be perfect.
>>
Urbanite vs Solo 2, which one should I get?
Basically will use them to watch shows in bed, so I need to be able to lay on my side in them. I'm sure the soundstage on both of them is trash
>>
>>58890066

What make/model? Pretty much any CIEM manufacturer worth their salt will "Re-shell" a pair, but it'll cost you and you'll have to pay for and ship them molds of your ears, too.

Get in touch with the company and they can walk you through the necessary steps. It's all pretty common.
>>
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Anyone knows of any trusted forwarder in the US that undervalues? ebay wants to step on my snek.
>>
>>58910285
X2 is what you're looking for
>>
>>58910676
Those look great, but do they leak much audio? From what I can see, they're open, not closed. I'm not completely against open headphones, but I just don't want that much audio leakage, so the mic doesn't pic it up, and I don't bother people around too much. Also, no amp required? The X2 plus the BoomPro for less than $300 would be great.
>>
>>58910703
Missed the closed part. In that case you'd probably want Beyer Custom Pros or V-Moda M100's. They should both be compatible with the Boompro.
>>
>>58910821
I know it's just looks, but the X2 appears to be much better built and more comfortable. Don't really like the look of those other two that much, but I guess that's irrelevant if the sound quality is good and they're comfortable, which is my main concern. Never actually tried an open pair, because I fear they would leak too much, and I plan on using it on my office, where I usually have the door open, but it seems nice for whenever I'm playing something in my room.

I'm not going to purchase anything right now, because the BoomPro seems to be unavailable, so I have some time to decide.
>>
>>58910327
Urbanite
>>58910285
What country?
>>58909225
T50rp Mk III with shure alcantara pads
>>
>>58910979
>What country?
brazil, but im importing from amazon
>>
>>58910863
Don't worry about the mic picking up any audio, I have a pair of shp9500's and a vmoda mic and the only way it can pick up audio is if I turn it VERY loud.
>>
>>58908623
too expensive
(i was planning on used pair of lcd2)
also considering audioquest nighthawk
>>
>>58911054
That's good to know. While I do listen to music all day, I don't like going too loud. That said, how much audio leakage do you get on your pair, just as a frame of reference? If you keep the volume on medium/low-ish levels, is there anything to be worried about?
>>
>>58911078
I use discord and have the audio gate thing set to like -55 db and I don't think I've ever had it leak into the microphone under normal conditions. One time I wanted to see how loud it would have to be to leak, and I had to put it at an uncomfortable level for it to leak just a small bit. I've got no clue how closed headsets leak so much sound, but I've never had a problem with it with this pairing.
>>
>>58911130
I meant more as in how much audio leaks around you, as in, how easily can other people hear what you're hearing while wearing the headphones. Still, if the mic doesn't really pic up anything, it shouldn't be that much of a problem.
>>
>>58911161
People in the room will be able to hear there is music playing, they might not be able to tell what music, but it'll be loud enough for them to hear at least something is playing. And you'll be able to hear everything pretty much as well as if you didn't have headphones on, for the 9500's at least.
>>
>>58911161
People will definitely be able to hear you. For a frame of reference take a pair of closed back headphones if you have any, play music at your usual listening volume and that should give you an idea of how much sound open backs leak.
Sometimes when I'm too lazy to put the headphones on my head I'll just use them as shitty little speakers.
>>
>>58911200
>>58911209
Thanks for the replies. I've never tried an open pair, because I worry a bit of it turning into speakers, but I also don't like closed pairs that isolate too much sound so I can't hear anything happening outside. I always read about how music sounds more 'natural' with an open back pair, which really makes me want to try one, because that's my main use, but sound leaking is definitely a concern.
>>
>>58911246
I live in a pretty loud house in a room by myself and I'm still glad I got an open back pair instead of closed. It's worth it when everything is quiet. Going from my dt770's to my hd600's is crazy in terms of how natural and holographic it sounds in comparison.
>>
>>58911246
I wouldn't say they sound more "natural", but open backs will almost always give you a better sense of space in the music than a closed back. Your biggest tradeoff between open and closed is soundstage vs isolation and bass.

If you're listening to a lot of electronic and hip hop, you're honestly gonna be more satisfied with closed backs because of how important bass generally is within those genres. If you mostly listen to anything else involving actual instruments, recording and all that you'll be a lot more satisfied. X2's in particular are nice because they're a bassy headphone so even then bassy music sounds satisfactory enough through them, though most of the low end is in the mid bass instead of the sub bass.
>>
>>58911331
Those two are pretty much the main genres I listen to actually, not that many things with actual instruments. Are the X2s still good for that purpose, or should I look into a closed pair instead like you mentioned? Something like a V-MODA M100 like another anon recommended? Ideally I'd want something I can use some velour pads on, because leather ones isolate way too much sound, but this pair specifically seems to be more focused on sound isolation. All I want really are headphones that are as comfortable as possible, preferably with existing velour pads or the possibility to swap them, and a removable cable so I can couple it with a BoomPro.
>>
>>58911058
LCD-2 are better than nighthawks if you can put up with their weight. Nighthawks just sound really dark and kinda funky.
>>
>>58911468
Yeah i've messaged a guy on head-fi who's selling his lcd 2's for a good price... he hasn't been online for a week tho. I would prefer to get the lcd 2 but am not willing to drop 1K for a pair
>>
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>Budget
$75 - $85 / 70€ - 80€
>Location
EU
>Source
Laptop
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Nothing that smashes my head, I plan on using them for vidya mostly
>Sound signature
Just a little bassy
>Past headphones
Senn HD419

I know I may be asking too much for this price range, but anything goes.

I considered Cloud I but I don't wanna go for memeheadphones
>>
>>58911930
xpt100/hm5
>>
>>58911962
>xpt100
Thanks anon, it's a shame I can't find any seller for the xpt100 though, Amazon.com doesn't ship to my country and the british one goes over my budget. Same goes for HM5
>>
>>58912204
>Amazon.com doesn't ship to my country

You always have the option of using a mail forwarding service.
>>
>>58912279
not him but mail forwarding services are usually extremely expensive
>>
>>58912204
>eu
w-where in EU?
because I'm like 95% certain you're wrong

Did you check all of the sllers on amazon?
Try using this, "Does Amazon Ship to ...?"

It's a huge fucking help to check amazon seller shipping
>>
>>58912322
The original anon here, I was just gonna say this

>>58912333
Country in question is Portugal. I checked in .co.uk where the price + shipping would be 98€ and checked both .de and .es with no listing available for the xpt100. HM5 goes over my poor-ass budget
>>
>>58908583
Why only those two?

>>58911331
>>58911360
>soundstage
There really isn't much use to this. It's heavily, mostly dependent on the magnitude spectrum. The device linear performance is broadly dictated by minimum phase.
>bass
Closed backed headphones present multiple disadvantages with bass response. Leak tolerance and cancellation issues would be major concerns.
Being open backed doesn't limit bass extension as such, but they only have one effective bump near the driver resonance. The rear chamber provides at least one more resonator/port for tuning, but the enclosure itself provides its own source of bass cancellation.
>>
>>58875948
Any advice for Sennheiser RS175?
I want something high isolation, already has RS160, love the mobility, but it sucks in noise cancelling. Should I upgrade or not worth it the new one also sucks?
>>
>>58906648
> Logitech Z-2300 control pod

I have these too, but I haven't tried this. Should I max out the volume on windows and exclusively use the control pod? Does it make any difference?
>>
>>58913413
>Should I max out the volume on windows and exclusively use the control pod?
No. Don't do that.
>Does it make any difference?
Maybe. Probably not. Reality tends to muddle the result.

Some concerns at the digital end:
-Missing LSBs
-Interpolation overload
Some concerns at the analog end
-Potentiometer noise and mismatching at lower levels
-Input stage noise and dynamic range
>>
>>58913547
No idea what any of that meant. I've never played around with or cared to with AMPs, just realized I had those speakers with one built in apparently so I'm just curious if it is gonna improve anything
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