/pcbg/ - PC Building General

I'm planning on building a gaming pc with a budget of around 1000$ any tips? Also I live in Belgium.
CPU: i5-7600
GPU: GTX 1060 6gb Gigabyte G1 Gaming
RAM: Corsair 8 GB DDR4-2133
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-B250M-D2V, socket 1151
HDD: WD Blue 1TB

What would be a worthy upgrade processor-wise from a 6-year-old i5 2500K?

>>58853808
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
scroll down and look between superb and excellent. That should be perfect for you.

>>58854068
Thanks!

>Get weird buzzing/whining noise from NH-U14S when the fan is maxed out
>Fan mounted in pull because of clearance
>Install the thicc spacers after doing some reading online
>Shit's gone, quieter in normal and load usage as well
>Temperatures haven't changed
woah

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>>58853808
>he wants to buy a 1060 instead of a 480

>>58853808
Your mobo supports 2400MHz ram, it's usually the same price

I'm thinking of either getting an xps 13 or building a PC. I'm going to install GNU/Linux on either. Which would you do?

>>58855440
Depends on the usage, do you need to be mobile? XPS. Will the system just sit in some corner? PC.
This isn't a technology problem, m8, it's a problem of you making up your mind.

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>>58855440
Everything.

But really though, depends on your situation and how much money you have. If you're a student, XPS for sure.

>>58855440
The XPS is anywhere between $800 to $1600, and for that kind of money you could build a good pc.

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I've got a few questions. For reference I already own a GTX1080 and an ATX case.

For starters, I'd like to buy a Kaby Lake chip but I can't decide whether to get a chip worth overclocking or not. Is it worth it, really?

That being said, what are the differences in motherboard companies? Someone told me to go with Asus, but I have no frame of reference

>>58855721
Company isn't that important, as customer service will be universally terrible. Gigabyte is the only one that doesn't produce in mainland China, but that doesn't really matter too much. Just choose from the big three (ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI) and you're golden.

Go with something that fits your budget and has the features you want.

>>58855721
Did some googling for you and Asus seem to be the most reliable but the overall failure rates are only a fraction of percentage of difference and all brands are below about 2%.

>>58855804
>>58855764

Okay thanks guys. I picked that one because it doesn't have wi-fi, and can run SLI and several hard drives.

>>58855849
>because it doesn't have wi-fi
That's money you're going to spend later an an add-in card if you ever decide you want to have wifi. And even then, it's just going to sit there and do nothing so why fret over it?

>>58855869
botnet

>>58853549
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9KPcm8

Seems the only adjustment I would like to make would be that Im looking for 4 x 4gb within the same spec/price range...

Can I get any recommendations?

>>58855934
The cpu cooler comes with its own thermal paste tube, the z170 mobo may need a bios update before being able to use kaby, consider getting 3000MHz ram. I guessing you really want to overclock? Because you're cheaping out on a lot of other things

>>58855721
>Is it worth it, really?
Quad-core Ryzen R5 will start at Core i3 prices, so you tell me

>>58855934
If your budget is $900 you should either get a cheaper build or stick with a better CPU/build in general and save up for a better GPU.
Your build is... not really that good. Also sound cards are obsolete, on board is enough and people who need more should get an external DAC/AMP or interface anyways.

>>58856162

but ryzen is 100% unproven

why would i invest in an unproven product

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How effective will it be pic related? I have a 120mm fan on the side of the case with dust filters, and it sends (cold?) air to the cpu fan. Is it a bad idea?

>>58856481
>but ryzen is 100% unproven
Where have you been for the past three months?

How do I make sure when choosing a motherboard that it supports kabylake?

>>58856481
pls preorder

>>58856774
why would it be bad?

>>58856886
Because I don't know if my shitty stock heatsink can handle all that air coming.

>>58856895
I kek'd at this.

But if you're serious... just don't worry about it, it will work fine.

>>58856994
Alright, thanks mate!

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/QVq8XH

not getting an i7
gonna wait and see what happens in the next few months

>>58855120
>anti vibration mounts stop vibrations
woah

>>58855440
HP Spectre > Dell XPS

>>58856784
It was proved to "run" blender and doom (at 4K even the dipshits)
That's not proving anything
It's proved to maybe be as good as Intel for whatever price amd decides (not some retarded shill sites speculation)

>>58857263
Wow, for the same price I get an i7.

But will it run Linux?

>>58857318
Apparently works great for Linux, except you need to do a little work to get sound out of it (apparently one or more of the XPS's has a similar problem)
That's just the two Google links I looked at, you probably care more to look into it more

I'm trying to set up an eGPU (gtx 750Ti), but my laptop doesn't recognize it. Even though when I plug in a shit GPU (gt 310) it does recognize it.

I have the Gtx 750Ti connected via a 6 pin connector to a 300W psu. the eGPU setup is then connected via expresscard slot.

All fans are spinning. I don't get why it doesn't recognize the 750 Ti.

Any help please

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>>58857521
>expresscard
Hahahahha
You need USB 3.1 type C gen 2 thunderbolt 3 with authentic brand name GPU box grandpa

just put an i7 6700 3.4ghz in my new rig, did i fuck up?

>>58857567
Yes.

>>58857521
Maybe its PCIe 1.0 vs 2.0 kind of problem?
I'm sure expresscard doesn't actually have anywhere near as much bandwidth as a second-gen PCIe standard

>>58857587
fuckkkk what do? i have it paired with 16gb and a titan x

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If I'm staying at 1080p, is it smarter to get an RX470 over a 480?
I want to max the most games possible, newer or not, but I can stand dropping more than a couple settings if necessary to get good framerate. Say, GTAV or racing games in general.

This is the one I had my eye on.

>>58857615
Live with the shame or end your life.

>>58857676
No because you want to max the most games possible

Looks good.

>>58857552
>>58857594
No that can't be it. I've seen multiple videos where this setup did work. PCIe 1.0 and 2.0 are 100% compatible.

I really don't understand what the problem is. I'm thinking I need a different psu.

I want to build a small form factor that's really good, I generally decided on a picopsu 160w a 2.5 inch tall case, with a gabykabylake pentium 4 thread whatever and GTX 1050 from Zotac. Aside from a PCI ribbon cable what should i be concerned about? I was thinking maybe 2.5 inch in height wouldn't support a stock cooler, thnx

>>58857690
C'mon anon, don't be a smartass. I cleared that up in the very same sentence.

>>58857690
Here's my opinion, if you're buying a new GPU, why buy the inferior product when you can spend a little more and spend a lot longer continuing use with the GPU?

Agree, disagree, I don't care.

>>58857866
>>58857676
Sorry, top link's for you anon

>>58857866
Because you can spend a little less and have money, which is infinitely more useful than what you're about to do with your PC
The 470 is a great price/performance and handles itself at 1080p. The 480 is a bit more expensive and the 460 is a big compromise for 1080p games.

I can't be bothered to put a PC together, it's been so long since I've last done it. NCIX will do it for me for 50 dollars and ship it to me. Is that worth it?

>>58857816
You know, there's SFF and then there's nonsensically small. Where you go so small that you take everything that's good about DIYPC building away.
>upgradability
>cooling options
>dust filtration
>cable management
>hardware compatability

>>58857880
Sure, but I'm talking about in the long run of things and saving your money. You're not paying for the performance you get now, but I'm going to guess pc gaming will still be a hobby of yours a few years down the line and requirements will change to higher standards making the 470 obsolete quicker so you have to spend another $200+ in a shorter amount of time instead of putting in another $60 now.

Like I said, not deciding this for you, but here's a site that might also be additional help in you deciding whatever you want to decide http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-480-vs-AMD-RX-470/3634vs3640

>>58857883
Evaluate your time.
Say you make $10/h, then no it's fucking not.
Say you make $25/h, probably yes.

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>>58857866
Nah I getcha, it's just I'm tight on money and I've heard that for 1080p a 480 is overkill.

I might as well save up a bit more, sure, but if the performance I'd get goes beyond 1080/60fps it'd just go to waste. Think of it like buying a GTX1080ti to play on a 1024x768 screen. But you know, to a less extreme degree.

Not to mention, I'm paranoid it's gonna be DOA, or goes bust in a couple months. And since I'm importing because it's cheaper where I live, the warranty and all related shit could get cumbersome.

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>>58857944
>userbenchmark
Come on don't be a developmentally disabled retard, post some benchmarks that are both the and useful, what you posted is neither. He's okay with lowering a setting or two, so that makes a 470 a perfect choice for right now
Graphics won't become demanding enough that 1080p literally becomes unplayable in the next few years, especially if he's cool with lowering a setting
The 480 is what, $50 more expensive than the 470? Even more than $50?
For an average of 8% gains?

>>58857976
The 480 can play 1080p 60fps usually maxed out
It doesn't do much more past that, it can't do 1440p 60fps without significantly lowering the settings

>>58857284
>It's proved to maybe be as good as Intel for whatever price amd decides
Some Euro retailer leaked the price of the flagship 8-cores
Priced the same as an i7-6850K, i7-6800K, and the i7-7700K for all three variants. And these are all eight-core CPUs.

>>58858007
On average 8% is meaningless, but in that picture you posted right there, you can see that some of the more modern games introduce up to 18% of a performance difference. Yes, you can play pretty much everything with the 470, however, is it really worth risking the possibility of having a 20% performance difference down the line anon?

>>58858056
But is he selling them
There's been dozens of price leaks, I won't trust any of them until someone has a receipt

>>58853549
Is that Terrys non-autistic brother?

>>58858064
For $70 less I think so
The 480 can run doom at 95fps, so I'm sure 70fps won't be concerning him on his 60hz screen

I never knew how bad my onboard audio was.

went from alc892 to alc1220 (new codec for z270 boards) and its so much louder and clearer

Also got a single fan gtx 1060 from evga and I kinda regret it, it runs really hot, 80-81c pretty much all the time in games

>>58858096
Check on the price of the 480 right now and tell me it's $70 more

>>58858071
According to the leak, they'll be ready in the EU market by March 2nd. We'll know for sure by then.

>>58858169
>some guy online said it'll release on March second
>we'll see if he lied or not on March second, we'll know for sure by then

>>58858132

What sort of layout do you have? It's probably your air management.

newegg on ebay has a NZXT S340 ELITE for 120$ free shipping. Is it worth it? I wanted to go with a Fractal Design S for 100$+15$ shipping but I'll end up with a 5$ difference.

Only thing though is the S340 ELITE is no returns.

>>58858190
> the R7 1800X, the R7 1700X and the non-X, R7 1700 (all 8-core, 16-thread parts). According to the source, these chips will feature base clocks in the order of 4 GHz for the 1800X; 3.8 GHz for the 1700X; and 3.7 GHz for the 1700. Overall european pricing (including taxes) is set at €599.99 for the 1800X; €469.99 for the 1700X; and a "measly" €389.95 for the 1700.

>
This new leak prices the 4GHz 8-core R7 1800X at €599.99, which includes tax, with the R7 1700X being priced at €469.99 and their R7 1700 being priced at €349, which is pricing that is highly competitive with Intel's current offerings.

>First up, we have the R7 1800X which is the top model 8 core chip. Coming in at €599.99, this puts it at about $640
>Next, we have the R7 1700X which sits in the middle of the pack from previous lineup leaks. Coming in at €469.99, that puts it at about $500, sitting in between the hexacore i7 6800K and i7 6850K. Even accounting for VAT, the MSRP is probably in the $450-500 range.
>Last of all, we have the R7 1700 non-X which is an interesting chip. At a mere €389.95, that would put it at about $415 or around the same as the i7 6800K. I suspect the MSRP will be set at about $375-400 which puts it just slightly higher than the i7 7700K

>This new leak prices the 4GHz 8-core R7 1800X at €599.99, which includes tax, with the R7 1700X being priced at €469.99 and their R7 1700 being priced at €349, which is pricing that is highly competitive with Intel's current offerings. Right now Intel's 8-core 16-thread i7 6900K costs €1109 and their 4-core 8-thread i7 7700K costs €360 in the EU.

etc. etc.

>>58858300
nice blog

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>>58858090
Nope, that's the man himself.

>>58858320
They're from several different articles, you fucking moron.

>>58858330
So they're blog-stealers
Is it unreasonable that someone would take unverified information as rehash it is fact on the Internet?

>>58858320
Nice shitpost. Kill yourself. Retard.

>>58858348
It falls in line with AMD's past statements about Ryzen being priced "competitively" and "premium branding". Not too expensive, but not too cheap either.

Also, KYS or I'll murder you with the foreskin of my dick, pleb.

>>58858380
>Lisa: it'll be a good price guys!
>blogger: it's this price
>you: SEE I TOLD YOU GUYS

>>58858414
Your asshole is my property as of tonight, bitchcakes. I will claim what is rightfully mine.

>>58858380
>I think this price is competitive so it must be true because AMD said it would be competitive

What's a good and somewhat cheap set of speakers I can get if I'm assembling a gaming PC?

>>58858264
i use a closed loop for my cpu with 2 intake fans at the back, 1 front intake, 1 side intake and 1 exhaust

my cpu idles at like 25c and hits 55c at load but my gpu is just hot as fuck

All of these items together cost 2000 dollars canadian.

Is it worth it? I really want full SSD.

case:corsair 400c
CPU: i5 7500
mobo: asus prime z270-a
PSU: evga g3 650
gpu: EVGA 1060 GTX 6GB
SSD: WD blue 1TB SSD 2.5"
RAM: corsair vengeance LPX 2133mhz
keyboard: corsair k70 lux cherry mx blue

I just picked what I wanted and it added up fast... 2000 is my max budget.

Does anybody have any experience using powerline adapters? Nobody I know IRL has so much as heard of them.
I need to get an ethernet connection to my room, a floor above the router and running a new wire isn't an option atm.
I understand how they supposedly work, but I have yet to talk to anyone whose used them so I want to know if the do actually perform decently.

>>58853549
>machine.jpg

Tell me /g/, what is this piece of tech.

>>58858590
You get sub-Gigabit Ethernet performance depending on how old and how long the powerline you're using is. Honestly, 802.11ac is faster in the real world than powerline, the only reason why you'd still use that is if your house has wires made after the 1990s and your walls are lined with lead.

>>58858677
looks like a homemade CNC rig
>>58858752
Fuck it, I'll install a wifi card/antennae to my build

>>58857913
>>58857913
Idc lol

>>58858765
Make sure you buy a wireless card that's supported by your router. I can not tell you how many times I've come across people who buy $40 802.11ac mPCIe cards and complain that wifi speeds are still shit when they're connecting to an 802.11n or earlier router.

>>58858841
Thanks for the advice. I don't know a whole lot about networking hardware, but I'll look out for that (even wrote myself a note in my build doc)

I can buy a prebuilt gaming PC for less than I can build it for, wtf?

>>58859055
No you can't.

>>58859055
>>58859069
Depends on component quality and bulk deals obviously.

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>>58859055
>>58859069
It is possible. A friend of mine bought a prebuilt i7-6700K + 1070 for a little more than cost of the parts, it came with Windows OEM and 3-year warranty.
You'll rarely see such deals, but sometimes the jews forget how to jew.

>>58859055
Yes, I picked up an i7-6700K system for a friend and he paid about $75 less than what it would cost me in parts.

>>58859232
Make sure you're looking at it part for part, I'm sure when you make a build you choose a consumer-level PSU and the correct motherboard

>>58859280
Nigger, I took apart the case because I couldn't believe it myself. He got it during the after-Christmas sale, so that might explain it

>>58859356
>Part for part
Without including Windows I don't believe you

>>58859374
Windows 10 Home included

>>58859432
Yeah that's the thing, Windows 10 home minus the taskbar color is actually free, legitimate from Microsoft website

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http://www.bequiet.com/en/case/699

Can anyone give me a legit reason not to get this case that isn't shit like
>lol rice/full tower
>why do you NEEEEEED
Just want to know if there's any actual issues with it since it's gotten good reviews.

>>58859529
*rattling intensifies*

Is this decent for a gaming PC at around the $600 mark?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tQyNvV

>>58859172
the jew never forgets to jew, they're offloading older parts because new gen parts are coming in. they don't lose as much when they sell the old shit as soon as possible. y'all got jewed.

>>58859607
He got the build last year in Q3. They did cheap out on some parts, but overall it was a decent deal.

>>58859564
>rattling
w-what?

>>58859723
That's the invert-able orientation case, right? The case uses screws to fasten the motherboard panel and rear I/O panel to the chassis, but it doesn't have dampers where metal touches metal. So even if you tighten it all the way, if you run an AIO or heavy-ass air cooler on the CPU on top of aftermarket GPU coolers in the case, it rattles.

>>58859771
Do you have an actual source for that? Because that's not how metal on metal contact works if it's tight.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J2GzWX

Well, this is it. After a couple weeks of deliberation this is what I have settled on. For gaming, it meets my budget (between $1400 and $1700).

Like I said, I am fairly satisfied but for curiosity's sake I would like to see what /g/ thinks. Shitposting is welcome, but if you are going to criticize please provide me your reasoning and a logical alternative to whatever you dislike.

>>58859798
>Because that's not how metal on metal contact works if it's tight.
True, but it's not tight on ALL of the contact areas. There is one culprit in particular that is the motherboard mounting panel. It still flexes under load with a heavy air cooler or multiple graphics cards (or a single extra-heavy cooler). That flexing causes edges on the panel where the screws are to pull away ever so slightly (think hairline), but transmits vibration and causes noise as a result.
Also, the rear I/O panel is not as rigid either and might contribute to the panel noises.

>>58859820
>After a couple weeks
Really? It took you fucking WEEKS to throw... this... together?

>>58859771
Does it not use standoffs?
What case uses non-metal standoffs?

>>58859967
He's not talking about the standoffs.

>>58859905
You sound like you've owned one or at least used one. Is it something you can fix /diy/ with a bit of thin rubber?

>>58859905
But the screws are screwed in though
Even a disgustingly heavy 2 lbs cooler shouldn't even come close to passing the torque of tightened screws, even in lower-force applications like tech
I'm sure the case is shit but I doubt it's the motherboard rattling against motherboard standoffs

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I'm retarded and new to PC building.

Can you explain what all these types of cases I keep seeing mentioned are?
I don't really get the ATX this and ITX that, I just know some cases are towers, some are like boxes, and there's several sizes, but that's about the extent of it.

>>58860001
>I'm sure this high end case from a well respected company is shit
uwotm8

>>58860135
Just the size and shape of the case itself.
Smallest to largest for motherboards: mITX<mATX<ATX<EATX
There's a lot more than that but those four are what you're looking at for 99% of new builds. Other than that, it's just the shape.

>>58860135
ATX is big, mATX is medium, mITX is small
"Mid tower" used to mean a normal sized tower, like you get in a prebuilt conputer, and full tower used to mean ATX or EATX (extra big) with a shitload of HDD/ODD slots, but the case form factor standard doesn't really mean shit anymore, there's ITX "mid towers" and there's ATX "mini-cube" computers, just make sure your case fits the motherboard's ATX/mATX/ITX whatever

>>58859820
Your buying a freesync monitor with an Nvidia card.

>>58857567
gaming rig? no problem just disable ht and it will be as fast as an i5.

Is it always best to buy the highest bandwidth DDR4 my mobo supports, or should I take latency into account?

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>tfw video game console assembly general thread

>>58859991
>Is it something you can fix /diy/ with a bit of thin rubber?
If you can find a rubber sheet thinner than paper, then yes. You're better off with a different CHEAPER case, though.

>>58860001
It's not the motherboard or the standoff I'm talking about...

>>58859771
>citation needed

>>58860981
Why don't you buy one and see for yourself?

>>58860988
Bread on case or gtfo. I really doubt BeQuiet would overlook something like that and not a single reviewer I can find has mentioned it.

So i have an old core2duo system i had some fun dicking around with, it runs a 2.13ghz e6400 and 2gb of 667mhz ddr2
nothing fancy
the integrated graphics alone are decent for things like gta vice city and empire earth 2

im wondering if a gt 710 would be a good fit
its one of the few modern gpu's thats under 6" and 25w of power draw, so it would fit in the case, and work fine with the limited power output i get from a 200w power supply in such a system

i can get one for about 25$ on ebay , one of the smaller evga models, should run fine on xp

what can i expect this to do over the 256mb integrated graphics on a core2duo?

as far as games go, i like to play csgo, ive heard i can expect 30-40fps averages with a gt 710 on lga 775 processors, which is plenty for me, and i would only be playing at 1280x1024

and advice, suggestions, kys?

Does anybody remember back when PATA was still a thing there were those SSD drives you could use exclusively as a boot drive to free up your SATA ports?
I'm looking at buying an old ass computer off craigslist to turn into a fileserver and I'm trying to find one of those old PATA SSDs but I'm not having any luck

>>58860694
So the freesync won't work with the card, I get that much. If I bought this monitor would I expect a lot of screen tearing?

I can't seem to find a gsync monitor at 144hz and 2560x1440. At least not one that isn't under a grand.

>>58861238
pata ssd's are retardedly expensive and have extremely slow read/write speeds compared to a sata ssd

https://www.amazon.com/128GB-KingSpec-2-5-inch-SM2236-Controller/dp/B0091T4ZWU

>>58861295
1) That wasn't the kind of PATA drive I was referring to
2) Read the post

It's not for speed
It's to keep drive bays free and sata ports open for other drives. It's a fileserver.

>>58861334
thats a pata ssd
theres not much more to a pata ssd, its a storage drive that uses pata/ide

im sure you can get them in 8/16gb sizes if its just for an os boot

>>58861238
>>58861367
https://www.amazon.com/Kingspec-channel-Vertical-Socket-Module/dp/B00ZYZWBO4/
He's referring to these, where the drive itself sits on the mobo not connected by ribbon cables.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GPGPYr

Gaming and general purpose build, would like to play every modern/future game for some time at least at max settings 1080p. UK.

I'm looking for a lower price. I'm patiently waiting for AMD Ryzen chips, because I'm 99% sure I will get an AMD chip rather than an Intel if Ryzen ends up being good. Any suggestions?

What do you guys think?
https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-7-pro-rev-2.html
I need something to replace my i5 7500 stock cooler
I can get it for 17 bucks
Also will it fit ony my micro atx mobo?

>>58856481
You get bonuses if you buy the Evolved Stage XTRM General Warlord limited Collectors Region Specific Edition.

>>58861406
>https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GPGPYr
i say drop down to a non-k i5, stick with the stock cooler in that scenario, and you go can for a non-oc'ing chipset like h110, which will be alot cheaper
and you can go down to 550w on the psu comfortably, stick with a single 8gb of ddr4 at first and get another stick if you hit that limit, maybe go with wd blue instead of black

those are the easiest ways to reduce cost, if you need an unlocked processor then go with that of course, and while wd blacks are nicer quality wise, a wd blue will still work just fine

>>58861426
>https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-7-pro-rev-2.html
its a 92mm tower, it should be just fine
i use to run a cooler master t2 on a really compact mini itx board and still had decent ram clearance, it should be fine as long as your dimm slots arent touching the stock cooler

>>58860781
Latency matters but frequency matters more

>>58858576
>400c
Get the 400q faggot
>i5 7500
No k?
>1 TB SSD
Why not a 250 SDD and a 2TB HDD

>>58858590
They're shit, don't use them for any reason.
>>58861231
I'm not sure, but I think the RAM is going to be the main issue, the graphics card will be better than the rest of the system, but it will still be an improvement.

>>58858576
>locked processor
>z720
go for an h170 board if youre going to use the 7500
if you get a k processor then go with the z270 motherboard

>>58861820
the 2gb doesnt seem to limit me too bad, and if i need to i can go to 3gb
only reason i havent done so already is that im out of heat spreaders and i dont want things to look out of place

i could do 6gb but then i'd have to install either vista or 64 bit windows xp
vista would be kinda meh, i guess id get halo 2 out of it, but 64 bit xp was a cuuuuuuuuuuuuuunt

Does anyone have a link to a pack with all the W7 updates to install manually? I'm going to clean install windows and updating is tedious as fuck with Windows Update

>>58861820
>>58861848
i ended up buying this one in particular
.ebay.com/itm/302162677107

because it was cheap, i dont need the 2gb variant beacuse im going to be playing in 1280x1024 and lower, and its realllllly short, which i like because it gives everything else more breathing room
the radeon hd 3450 i tried in there (didnt output video) was about 6.5" long and would almost touch the cooler

and if it doesnt work out, or whatever, its 35$, shiet ill just stick it in my grandmas little optiplex thing so she can watch high res youtube or whatever

>>58861669
>i say drop down to a non-k i5, stick with the stock cooler in that scenario, and you go can for a non-oc'ing chipset like h110, which will be alot cheaper
I wanted to OC to get the most performance possible, you can't OC on non-K can you? That's also why I got the overpowered CPU cooler on there to help a bit.

>and you can go down to 550w on the psu comfortably, stick with a single 8gb of ddr4 at first and get another stick if you hit that limit, maybe go with wd blue instead of black
Hmm yeah, once again overclocking and wattage. I was just looking at games and some of the recommended specs were 16gb so I was a little worried about that. I've heard about Blues not being that good for gaming, and some anons meme about Blues not being that good, why do they get a bad reputation?

Thanks for the advice

>>58861921
overclocking is great if youre playing something or doing work thats really CPU heavy, but for most games and shit, as long as its paired with a decent gpu, overclocking really doesnt give too big of a performance boost

also the difference between black and other wd color hdd's will hardly effect gaming, we're talking less than 1fps difference
16gb is recommended so you dont run into any problems at all, 8gb is plenty to start with for almost anything right now, lots of ram is better used with more professional applications for things like video editing and such

all hdd's get a shit reputation beacause theyre kinda shit, theyre a finnicky technology and imperfections may get past quality control and cause issues on the consumer end

if you're looking for actual decent performance for gaming, go with all games on an SSD, omit the hdd entirely and just get a larger ssd, thats where you'd notice a difference in speed

What's a decent budget case? I got a Asus h97-plus motherboard, and a i5-4690 and 8gb of 1600 ddr3 ram fro free when my cousin upgraded his pc and i need a case (already have a psu) Leaning towards a RX 470 or 1050 TI to pair with this too.

>>58862052
zalman makes decent quality, decently feature rich cases for next to nothing
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235054

theyre plain jane cases, nothing fancy, budget friendly and fairly durable
i had the zm-t1 for a while before handing that pc down to a friend, the side vents are really helpful if you have a non-tower cpu cooler and a non-blower gpu
hot air goes right outside, cpu can suck air in directly from the side too

>>58862116
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235054
That's a good price for a case.

>>58861291
You won't get any benefit at all, basically wasting your money - if you cant get gsync, buy a standard 2560x1440

>>58861745
>400q
Fuck that heat trap

>>58862052
If there are some used computer parts stores around, you could look there. I know I'll be dumping one of my cases at one if none of my family members want it.

>>58857676
The stronger GPU should last you longer. Its a matter of deciding if you would like to start dropping settings on games sooner and more frequently, or spending a bit more and doing the same thing a bit later.

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What is a good build that can play arma 3 maxed out and sound reasonably quiet?

>>58857676
480 8gb if you can afford it.

Ive got fx 4100 and r9 290 and im thinking about new cpu but im short on money so the choice would be fx 6300 or g4560 plus new mobo.
Getting intel would be better because i could upgrade later into i5 but amd would be cheaper and probably more powerful.

Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
$343.35

Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
$99.99

MSI Z270 GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
$189.99

Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
$137.89

Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card
$279.99

Anidees AI-Crystal ATX Mid Tower Case
$139.90

Dell U2417H 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor
$229.35

Dell U2417H 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor
$229.35

Total: $1736.47

Thoughts, images, sensations? Already have a PSU, SSD, HD.

which cpu would you choose? theyre both under $100 now, and they fit my mobo

http://ark.intel.com/products/47920/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5670-12M-Cache-2_93-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI

http://ark.intel.com/products/52578/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5687-12M-Cache-3_60-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI?wapkw=x5687

>>58862865
PCPP
C
P
P

At a glance, that's too much for a 1080p 60Hz monitor even if it is IPS, and you're overspending on your motherboard.

>>58862944
I used PCPP, but I didn't want to post the dragon dildo because you guys would make fun of me.

And that monitor is the shit, so I'm fine paying that. The debate I'm having is that vs. a 2K monitor.

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>>58853549
Where did you find this rare Terry?

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Need a psu for a clocked i5 + 390 full ram slots, 1 ssd 3 hdd, dual fan cooler and 5 chassis fans

looking at the SS M12 II 620w

budget around $60

any tier 2 psu will be fine, no window but I like neat cables.

>>58862896
ill ask another way. the only difference i can tell is that 1 is 6 core, 2.9 ghz, the other is 4 core 3.6 ghz. Im guessing the 6 core would be better?

>>58856797
search the model, if you're getting a 100-series mobo then check which BIOS version added KabyLake support and make sure the one you buy has that or newer BIOS version, don't assume it will come updated. Try asking the seller for it to come updated, otherwise make sure to have a Skylake CPU at hand because you will not be able to update the BIOS without an already compatible CPU

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My gf wants me to build her a PC that can run Sims 4 at it's highest graphics (kill me) and she wants it to be small she can have it in our sitting room while I'm in the study. So I've been looking at Mini-ITX but I've never built one before, is there much difference or things I should know before starting? Compatibility issues or anything? I'm planning on grabbing and 1050 cause they're cheap and small. She also wants it in this but it looks like a real pain in the ass to build

>>58853877
New i5, but wait for zen to drop so there's more competition

>>58855764
ASRock has gotten quite good as well, at least in my machines and my friend's machines that have used them. Gigabyte probably has my favorite BIOS though.

>>58863774
it's not hard. don't be a retard and you'll be fine

>>58863774
I thought girls got over the whole "pink only" thing after age seven.

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>>58863774
ITX is really fun to build in IMO. Best tip I can give is to choose your components around the case you're given and choose good shit from the start because it will be a bitch to do major upgrades later. Brush up on your cable management game and invest in velcro cable ties.

reminder that if you pick a 1TB HDD along with your SSD you should just get a bigger SSD instead of wasting money on a HDD combo

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>>58864127
Reminder that not everyone is living off of mommy's money.

>>58863774
The main thing is how the motherboard is oriented in the case, like laying down flat or if it's like a regular case, and if the case is also flat (htpc style) or more like a box. Also note the PSU location relative to the mobo.
This is to know if you need a low profile cooler or not.

And check if the PSU is regular ATX or SFX.

>>58864166
every tard that adds a 1TB drive instead of a 2TB even tho it's just $10-15 more for double the space always say "B-but i dont need 1TB, i never use that much storage!".

they might aswell just get a bigger SSD from the start and perhaps they wont even need any extra storage, but if they do it wont be as soon and it's easy to add (much easier than having to replace your OS drive or start moving shit over to the HDD when the SSD start getting full).

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Hey guys, looking for advice on what I should replace next in my PC build.

I have:

CPU - Intel Core i3 4360 @ 3.70GHZ
RAM - 8.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 800MHz (9-9-9-24)
MB - MSI H81M-E34 (MS-7817)
Monitor - Shitty 32" TV @ 1600 x 900
Graphics - 4096MB ATI AMD Radeon R9 380
Storage - 111GB Corsair Force LS SSD
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-00WN4A0 (SATA)

>>58864468
Depends if you're having issues with your games or not or if you want to be able to play on higher settings.

You should've gotten a better mobo so you could have OCed that lil fella and be good for a while longer.

Wait for Ryzen and maybe decide to update the CPU,Mobo and RAM combo, but you're gonna be slightly GPU bottlenecked after that.
And if you upgrade GPU now you'll be CPU bottlenecked cus you only have 2 cores and no extra threads...

>>58864468
>Monitor - Shitty 32" TV @ 1600 x 900
This first then upgrade.

>>58864585
Any good monitors out there for a modest price? poor fag.

>>58864711
you can get 120-144hz 1080p monitors for almost $200 nowadays.

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>>58853549
Dude on craigslist is selling this gay ass Lenovo ThinkCentre M82 2742 thing for $240, but the specs don't look too bad in my eye. The key thing
Intel Core i5‑3550 3.3 GHz
8GB DDR3 Ram
300GB HD
Do you guys think it'd be worth it to use this as a base and add on a better PSU, 470, and more drives to cut down on my costs or is it too deprecated to think about using nowadays? I really only need something that can play modern stuff at mid-high settings but can also emulate PS2/Dolphin like a champ.

>>58864879
>I really only need something that can play modern stuff at mid-high settings but can also emulate PS2/Dolphin like a champ.
I guess it could be fine, don't know about PS2 emulation however, the stock PSU may, and i do say MAY be good enough to power a GPU. Looks pretty scratched up, you could try knocking down the price below 200$.
>is it too deprecated to think about using nowadays?
It's getting there pretty fast

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/W7krWX

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i bought my computer for 700$ from a friend he said it should run everything on high but i need to drop all my games to medium to get solid fps can anyone point me to what i should upgrade?

CPU - Intel Core i5 4440 CPU @3.10GHZ
RAM - 12GB
Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti
Storage - 2tb hdd

>>58853549
>Consider a H110/B150/B250 or mobo for any Pentium or i3 build
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE change this!

>Consider a H110/B150 (with Kaby Lake support out of the box) or B250 mobo for any Pentium or i3 build

While the older mobos support Kaby Lake with a bios update, you cannot update without a working CPU!

>>58865720
Your GPU is 2 generations old. Was decent in its time, but its time was 3 years ago.

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>>58865765
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117559
so get this?

>>58865792
The is a CPU. Your GPU is what is inside your graphics card, the GTX 750 Ti

>>58865819
i understand now thank you very much

Whats the cheapest place to buy a RX480 from that delivers to Europe?

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Is it better to have an SSD purely dedicated to your OS and programs and have a seperate SSD for your favourite games, or don't bother with that shit and just put your games on the same SSD?

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god help me

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zPQQBP

what would you change

>>58857133
I take it this is your first computer build.

>>58865876
just buy from a euro site cus otherwise the shipping will make it just as expensive if not more.

>>58867013
the reason to get an SSD is to make shit load faster, so you will want to put your favourite games on it aswell

>>58867237
with?

>>58867799
fine if you have the money. just wait and see if ryzen is good.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PjgfkT

i opted out of a 550w PSU and planning on getting a 650w just to play it safe for overclocking.

>>58868752
>z170 mobo with 7th gen CPU
how do you plan on turning that thing on?
>logitech keyboard
hope it's mechanical for that price
>razer sphex
utter shit, get a QCK+

>>58865720
>$700
>that pc
>friend
it looks like he threw you together a scrap pc and upcharged you by about 2-300.

But yeah, your gpu would be the thing to upgrade, but first i would check the wattage on your psu since your "friend" probably fucked you there too

>>58868800
>how do you plan on turning that thing on?
should i replace that with a z270 mobo?
>hope it's mechanical for that price
it's a mechanical keyboard (mx browns)
>utter shit, get a QCK+
will do

>>58868876
>should i replace that with a z270 mobo?
yes.
>it's a mechanical keyboard (mx browns)
good
>will do
just to explain why, razer sphex is fucking tiny and it is not even 1mm thick and it sticks to your desk with a mild adhesive (thankfully doesnt stick if you remove it).

>>58861696
Thats the motherboard
http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B250M-DS3H-rev-10#kf
and the case
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112251
I should be fine right?

>>58868899
alright ill switch the mobo to the z270. but why is the z170 not compatible with a 7th gen processor? don't they "future proof" these mobos?
thanks for all the feedback btw man i appreciate it

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>Poorfag
>Consider 1050ti
>Uncle 4chan tells me to get the 470 becasue it's better and has the same price
>Actually is at least 50 bucks more than the 1050ti in my area
So ~50 more bucks for ~50% more performance then. Sounds more realistic at least. I don't have no extra 50 bucks for that tho.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vbgfkT

Built this... and I have a problem.

Everything powers on, I see the MOBO light and cooler light, all fans turn on. Hard disk spins up... (getting SSD soon) and everything is fine for a few seconds.

Then, the Videocard fan turns off. A couple of seconds the case fans and cooler fans turn off. Hard disk spins for a bit, then everything turns off.

I have the screen plugged in directly to the MOBO vga input and it never shows anything. No beeps either. I am pretty sure everything is plugged in... what the hell did I do wrong?

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Anyone building servers here?

#MSI Kabylake Mini-ITX
whats the difference between

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7wZ2FT/msi-h270i-gaming-pro-ac-mini-itx-lga1151-motherboard-h270i-gaming-pro-ac

and

http://geizhals.de/msi-b250i-gaming-pro-ac-7a67-001r-a1558343.html

seems to me they have the same features...

>>58868966
It pretty much depends on where you live if the 1050ti has a right to even exist or not. It certainly has no right to exist in areas where the 470 is $160 or below because the 1050ti is set between 460 and 470, not directly competing with either one.

>>58869003
Learn to read you mong.

>>58869113
thank u kind productive anon

What are good alternatives to the Phanteks Enthoo PRO M Acrylic? I looked around in my country but nobody seems to have it. Something on the same price range would be OK.

>>58865720
You should upgrade your friend
>>58867799
Change the hdd to Western digital
>>58868752
Stupid fucking headset
>>58868973
Do you have all the necessary psu cables connected? Also, if you have the gpu installed, you want your monitor plugged into your gpu.

>>58868960
it is after a BIOS update BEFORE you put in the CPU. Some mobos can update BIOS without a CPU installed, but there's no point buying the old chipset when the new chipset is pretty much the same price.

>>58868966
just save up the money then,or buy the 1050ti but know that you wont get very much life out of that 2GB VRAM card.

>>58868973
remove everything except 1 stick of ram and the CPU and try turning it on.
remove and double check all the power cables.

>>58869388
I believe so based on the MOBO guide and some videos detailing the order. I tried the HDMI with the card and that didn't work.

It also restarts a few seconds after the final bit (hard disk) turns off.

>>58869400
>2GB VRAM card
Wrong

>>58869449
there's a 4GB 1050? i guess that works fine, but i'd still recommend saving up for a 470.

So I'm looking at the GTX 1060 and don't know which kind I should get. Currently have the Dual Fan Asus but don't know if I need two fans since I'm not overclocking. Should I just get the EVGA card?

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>>58869516
RX 480

>>58869545
>Paying for 2 extra frames
I get that /g/ is filled with AMDrones, but really?

Do you guys think that a g4560 would bottleneck a rx480 4gb a lot? or should I get the rx 470 instead.

>>58869561
you also get more vram.

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>>58869561
>same performance
>RX480 is cheaper
get your brain checked you fucking retard

>>58869472
Yeah, the ti version has more cores and 4gb. The 470 is still 50% faster than that and has min. 4gb too so unless the price difference is noticable in one's area there is no reason to get a 1050ti

>>58869591
The 1060 isn't $299 though.

>>58869591
I'm not paying for an inferior product, I only want the best
Also, 1060 6GB goes for less than the 480 8GB.

>>58869608
Here in my country it doesnt cheapest 8gb rx 480 I can find is the gigabyte one at 248 euros.
While the cheapest 6gb 1060 a zotac one costs like 175.
So depends where you live.

>>58869600
>>58869608
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20601203793%20601205646%20600358543%20600494828%204814%208000&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&order=PRICE&page=1

Hello friends, Australian Here.

How much do you think i could sell this for?

fx8350
hd7970 3gb
16gb ddr3
hyper 212 evo
gigabyte 970a d3p
corsair 760w modular psu
tp link cheap wifi card
corsair 300r case

>>58869647
Your point? The GTX 1060 still isn't three hundred.

>>58869608
The RX480 was slightly inferior at launch, now it's decidedly superior

>>58869675
>now it's decidedly superior
In AMD-sponsored games only. That's like, SEVEN GAMES in total

>>58869675
But the anon asked for the GTX 1060, not the RX 480. You aren't even answering his question.

>>58869698
No that was before, now it's superior in over half the games

>>58869665
around $400 maybe

>>58869722
Bullshit
Now fuck off

>>58869722
Gonna need a sauce for that

>if your build doesn't include a 1080, what's the point?

>>58865720
How are you not running shit on high? My GeForce 670 could do high with 1080/60+ fps on everything except the newest games.

>>58869734
I literally just googled "RX 480 benchmark 2017"
http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2017/01/gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-graphics-card-better-driver-update/

>>58869750
he has a 750ti

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>>58869772
>1% better
NVIDIOTS BTFO

On the topic of the 1060, how good is the EVGA 1060 SC? Or should I just get the MSI 1060?

>>58869723
in australia though?

>>58869864
check your local second hand market and see what similar computers sell for, and also check individual parts go for and you can add the cost of individual parts and slap on a little extra since it's already assembled.

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>>58869750

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>>58870695
>640x400

>>58865720
Get a 1050Ti and if you can an SSD as well (200$ total more or less), you'll notice a big improvement

>>58870724
better to spend the ssd money on a better gpu like 470

>>58870716
why does a graph need a huge resolution?

>>58870747
because a graph is useless if you cant see what the fuck it's comparing

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>>58870716
It's a screencap from the nvidia website, here i fixed it.
Heres the newer version
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-590/performance

>>58870822
upscaling wont fix it, anon, you should know that.

but im surprised nvidia are such retards they put up a tiny fucking image of a graph

>>58870841
It was a joke

>>58870822
i have a 650 ti boost
am i lucky?

CASEL: Mastercase maker
CPU : 6700k (1.34v at 4.6)
GPU : Strix 1070
RAM : 8gb
PSU : Rm850x
HDD : some random 5400rpm (replacing with ssd soon)
how badly did i get memed

>>58871170
how should we know if you dont post price?

>>58871264
$1300 and about $1500 after i order an ssd

>>58871346
what country?

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How good is this GPU as far as a 1060 goes if you don't plan on overclocking?

>>58871381
united states

ok guys
i5 7600K
16gb ddr4 3000mhz corsair
asus z270-a
and a coolermaster 212 evo
622.44$

case and psu from prev pc
coolermaster haf 922 and coolermaster psu 650W

planning to buy a 1070

rate me!

>>58869400
The z270 costs 50 dollars more, but i guess with a almost 2k budget, 50 bucks wont hurt. Thanks again anon

>>58871170

is that already built? it sounds pretty good but you have a great GPU/CPU and mid-tier RAM

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This is my part list for what is intended to be a low-power torrentbox/server running zfs. For the RAM I need to choose either the 128GB ECC RDIMMs or the 64 GB UDIMMs. Not sure that I really need 128 gigs of RAM. Also, any suggestions on how to get the price down would be helpful. Prices are in CAD.

>>58871594
yeah its already built, the stock fans on the h115i are fucking garbage though and hdd bottleneck,but i enjoy it

>>58871629
>mini ITX

will it fit?

>>58871677
Yeah, the case has space for 10 3.5" HDDs and one 2.5". One HDD is for backup.

>>58871578
post pcpartpicker list

>>58871594
>he had mid-tier ram
>didnt even list what speed they were
really?

>>58871170
>>58871346
>>58871423
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MJThBP

>>58871629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyK7ZF-svMk

>>58871718
im not from us but if you want

>>58871730
greentext what the fuck you're replying to so i know what we're talking about

I am building a pc for first time without help and I have cable questions.

I need 3 sata cables for data. I have an ssd, hd and optical drive.

The motherboard came with only two 6gb ones. I have power to all 3 already.

I found a sata cable that is 3gb with the extra stuff from my old pc. Would that work for my optical drive and I can use the 6gb ones for my hard drives? My mother board is an asus z170p

>>58871797
what cheapo mobo did you buy even my brothers cheap z170 came with 4 sata cables

>>58871797
hard drives cant even max out the 3Gbps cables but yeah sure, use the 3Gbps cable for your optical drive since that's even slower than hard drives and there's no chance it will bottleneck.

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>>58871819
>>58871797
my bad, also i have the same mobo,mine came with 4 you should double check your box pal

Whats a good starter SSD? I'm looking to spend 50$ for 120GB

>>58871872
There's a toshiba and a Kingston one I'm looking for.

>>58871836
No only 2

Cables: 2 x Serial ATA 6.0 Gb/s cables

>>58871902
just use the 3Gb/s cable for your optical drive. kthxbai

>>58871902
odd, either way none of those can max out those cables like >>58871825 pointed out, so just plug in the 3gb into your optical drive if youre paranoid

>>58869835
>Trusting EVGA
>After the cooling and Heat pad fiasco
ISHYGDDT

>>58871941
Does it matter which ports on the mb I use? They are labeled sata 3, 4. 5 etc

>>58872056
generally no. it's wise to use your OS drive in slot 0/1 but other than that it doesnt matter.

>>58872042
Yeah but do I really need a dual fan GPU if I'm not overclocking?

>>58871797
>I found a sata cable that is 3gb with the extra stuff from my old pc
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/SATA-cables-Is-there-a-difference-97/

>>58872104
>Nvidia nuclear reactor joke. jpeg

But if you're not OC'ing here you go: https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-ZT-P10800C-10P-Wraparound-Ultra-wide-PowerBoost/dp/B01GCAVRSU/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1486671948&sr=8-7&keywords=gtx+1080ti

A GTX 1080 under $600 is nice

>>58872127
I was more so thinking of getting a 1060 since won't be using a 4k/1440p monitor though.

>>58871414
Buy the cheapest one there is and overclock it fucking idiot
It's literally slide ONE setting towards "faster", even a complete retard like yourself could do it

>>58872104
Yes many 1060s get fairly hot

Is the G4560 and RX 470 good enough for maxed out 1440x900? Only monitor I got is an old 17-inch 1440x900, will this do the job for new videogame titles on ultra?

>>58872188
Thanks. I have read good things about the MSI, Gigabyte, and Asus models but am unsure about which to get. Should I just stick with the MSI.

>>58872174
I don't think you know what overclocking means.

>>58872225
I would get the cheapest one, almost all of the 10-series models basically overclock the same and usually hit a clock limit before thermals are an issue

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>>58872251
>nvidia literally can't overheat bro!

>>58872222
>max out any game
>ultra
>G4560
some games wont even run without 4 threads.
get the latest generation i3 if you want to play modern games with decent settings.

also nice quads

>>58872283
>G4560
G4560 has hyperthreading with 4 threads though?
https://ark.intel.com/products/97143/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4560-3M-Cache-3_50-GHz

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7tHgpb

>pic

>>58872283
Good thing that's 4 threads and he's not a complete fucking idiot when he picks his CPU

I have a crucial CT500MX200SSD1 500GB, should I use this for the OS and get a cheaper 500GB SSD or get the Plextor M8Pe 256GB M.2-2280 SSD for the OS?

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>>58872332
Just put your fucking data on a drive rainman

>>58872303
>>58872331
oh my bad, thought they only gave the i3 extra threads. sure go for it, you can play on decent settings but you wont max out or ultra any recent AAA title.

>>58872332
OS's aren't 250-500GB just so you're aware

>>58872332
Depends on your system, some motherboards actually boot much slower using non-SATA, even if it reads much faster the boot order is changed by using an NVME drive
But that's not an NVME drive so therefore it is an M2 that isn't even worth your time spent looking at it

What is that thing on the table

>>58872372
Oh wait it is NVME, it's also overpriced and PCIe which means it'll use one of your precious slots, and assuming you don't have an M2 slot at all, your mobo was probably not designed for non-SATA booting and probably will run into the boot order slowing down your boots

>>58872321
note sure you can boot the latest pentiums off the last gen mobos without updating bios, at least thats how it is with the i3 i5 and i7 kaby lakes.

also you can get a z170 for the same price, and a z270 for $10 more.
this would be nice if you ever want to upgrade the CPU down the line and OC (might even be able to OC the pentium with certain mobos, but it's not confirmed yet).

So I've bought a 256gb m.2 nvme SSD and a 2tb HD. What are the common annoyances with having two drives( i.e programs deciding to install themselves on the default C drive for program files and such?)

>>58872056
since none of your drives can even break 6gb cap not really

>>58872462
Nothing install itself on the C drive outside of authorized folders (like the giant black box of Microsoft Windows and all Microsoft apps) without asking
Just start selecting the other drive from time to time when you install shit

>>58872409
What z170 are you looking at? Because the ones I'm seeing are 150$ plus

>>58872462
windows putting files on the HDD even tho you told it to install on the SSD, but this is avoided by unplugging the second drive during install.

And you're supposed to install programs on the SSD ffs. You put documents and media you dont care if they load a bit slower on the HDD.

>>58872498
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=119&sort=a8&page=1

http://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#sort=a8&c=110

>>58872494
>>58872514
>And you're supposed to install programs on the SSD ffs
Ideally I want one drive for games and my steam library, one for my OS and the rest of my programs and the HDD for storage.

Thanks for the advice.

>>58872514
Some of these still need a BIOS update from the looks of it and many of these you have to buy used or they have a 1-2 month wait time.

I rather just save money and time by just getting a BIOS update with the 150M

Which 1070 card should I buy? Did EVGA fix the house fire issues?

>>58872600
most mobos cant update bios without a cpu installed and you cant use the kaby lake cpu without updating bios first.

>>58872372
>>58872394
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4fXq7h This is what I'm looking at. The mobo has M2 iirc.
Nothing final yet, gonna change some stuff like memory and probably go lower with psu. It's my first time building one. I want to use it for rendering heavy (like really heavy) effect compositions in AME and simultaneous working in After Effects. Some things there run on the GPU and I want to be able to play vidya. I'll play on a 1440p screen, not sure how far that GPU will get me, but if playing on 1440p with high fps means spending several hundreds more, I'd rather play 1080p cropped.

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>>58872579
I have two SSDs, one with my steam library and one with everything else
I figure the one with the games is old and less reliable so I load it with large, replaceable data
Combined it's maybe 400GB, not much out of my total 1 TB

>>58872600
only the z170 (and the other 1xx chipset mobos) need bios update, also see >>58872620
all 2xx mobos dont need bios update to use kaby lake out of the box.

>>58872641
>1440p on a 1060 at 60fps
MAYBE, with settings turned down in new games, look into the Rx480 as well, basically the same performance but like 2% better in the half of games that the 1060 is 2% worse in
>at high Hz
Get a 1070 or get 1080p, neither 1060 nor 480 will cut it

hey guys, thanks in advance,

I have a decently new gaming rig I built and I'm wondering why I have low fps and stutter in most games

Asus z87 sabertooth mono
8gb of some meh ram (bundled with mobo)
i5-4690k
h60 cooler for cpu
1060 wth 6gb vram
chinky 500w psu
specifically, my fps in CSGO will drop in some busy maps. games like R6 and Overwatch are almost completely unplayable because they stutter and freeze up so much

>>58873030
you dont have a graphics card, apparently

>>58873030
could need a driver update on that 1060,also you deserve it if it fries because of some shitter power supply

>>58873067
shit im fucking blind

>>58873138
this

>>58872688
1TB SSD? That must have cost a shiton, which one did you buy if you don't mind me asking?

>>58873030
No way it's because of your PC unless something's damaged.
The problem should be a software issue, likely driver like >>58873138 suggested or the game itself, try purging cache/local data on steam or reinstalling it.
Do you experience those issues in some other ressource intensive tasks like encoding, edditing or something?