/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB

Isn't the RX460 a better value than the 1050 for 1080p games?

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>>58805855

>>58805855

nyet

>>58805855
>1080p
2007 called.

>>58805874
>>58805883
The XFX RX 460 costs €125 while the 1050 costs €153 where I live, that's 5 Euro per extra frame

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r8/h8

>>58805925

the GTX1080 that can't even run GTA V in the country with ultra grass at a solid 100+ FPS @ 1080p called

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>video game console assembly general

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>>58805957
Come again?

>>58805925
Okay, call them back and ask why I would need to run LoL, CSGO and Overwatch at more than 1080p

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Before anyone jumps saying I won't get much of a performance boost for what I'm paying I don't care. I've been itching to build a new system for a long while now and I thought I'd do it now so I can have DDR4, M.2 and such

Also when I bought my RAM the LED kit was cheaper than LPX

>>58806023
>downgrading or at best sidegrading just because you want to spend money
Alright, you can do what you want but it's still dumb as fuck m8.

>>58806048
>downgrading or at best sidegrading

I don't get how since Ryzen has been shown to perform on par with Skylake and Kaby Lake and the RX 480 outperforms the GTX 780

>>58806063
>has been shown to perform
No, marketing has suggested that it does. Nothing is really known until it's in the hands of people who aren't paid by AMD.
>but muh canardpc
Unless you can prove they don't have a marketing contract with AMD their "leaks" aren't worth shit. This exact same pre release hype and benchmark "leaks" happened with bulldozer and we all know how that turned out.

https://www.asus.com/au/Monitors/VG248QE/

What is the 2560 x 1440 equivalent of this?

>>58805946

I'm getting the same case, and wondering how I should do the fans. I wanted to 140mm in the front for intake, leaving the 120 for exhaust, but the top is exposed so I was wondering what 140s to put up there, if it's even worth it..

>>58806023
It's not worth it. Your system is still very good, maybe change the GPU if you feel like you need it but other than that wait 1-2 more years.

Guys

I'm building my first PC after ten years. I'm not gaming, I just want to have a PC at home that I can use as a server and to run scripts. It should be cheap, like <500 EUR.

So I was thinking to buy an i3-7320. Would it have any benefits to buy an i5-7400 instead? I figure not because shitty single thread performance. Anyone got experience?

>>58805946
H60 AIO is trash, mobo is overpriced gaming trash, why not Toshiba P300 and Corsair keyboards are mediocore at best.

>>58806023
>I won't get much of a performance boost

There's a good chance you'll actually get worse performance unless your plan is to wait for games that can utilize 16 threads (good luck with that).
Replacing a 4790k in a gaming machine right now is basically throwing money down the drain. If you desperately want to spend money on memes, then buy a better GPU; it's still a retarded way to spend money but you'll actually see a noticeable performance boost there.

I'm looking for an either mid-tower or mATX case for the new mobo/processor. Gonna be either 7600K or 7700K, likely not gonna bother with overclocking, needs to fit 28cm x 14cm GTX 1070 in it. Priority on silence though with fair airflow for gaming. White or metallic color preferred over black. What are my options?

>>58806810

NZXT S340

https://www.nzxt.com/products/s340-white

>>58806810
>i won't OC
>i buy a K CPU
Nigger please..

>>58806855
They are still better performance by a long shot.

>>58806845
Cool. Looks pretty good too. Where the hell is the intake though? Bottom and top of the front panel?

>>58806855
I said it's unlikely. Having to pay $20 more for the possibility isn't too bad.

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Thoughts on this budget/mid mini ITX build?
Looking to get good price/performance ratio.

>>58806927
>Bottom and top of the front panel?

Yes. The clearance is pretty huge, no worries. I have one in black.
It's a steal for the money if you don't need an optical drive.

>>58806894
>>58806927
You both forget that OC requires Z270 which costs twice as much as B250 therefore renders K CPUs completely cost in effective if not OCd.
Also requires better PSU and HSF.

>>58806104
Bulldozer never ever had pre-release benchmarks showing that it was on par with Intel (same core/thread amount).

Bulldozer was almost always benchmarked as 8 core vs 4 core Intel and in heavily multithreaded workloads.

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>>58806894
>4.2 vs 4.5 GHz turbo

Pic related.
Also if you're looking for gayming performance, frequency has pretty much no impact nowadays.

Also what >>58806979 said, if you want to have that "option", you will have to spend a lot more money than just the CPU.

>>58806979
Fair enough. I like the option for OCing to be there especially if the chassis has enough room for proper airflow, but I guess it's worth looking at how much money you could save by going, say, i5 7600 and B250 instead of the K version and Z270.

>>58805838
I'm generally a person who likes small and minimalism, but next pc I want to build will be something like that.

Big huge case, but zero sata storage drives or disc drives, strictly M.2 storage, and I'll buy a modular PSU so that I can unplug all of the unused SATA power cables that I will not be using. The machine will be huge and empty on the inside, just things directly connected to the motherboard.

Why? I like having all that free open space. The first computer I ever built was a fucking mess of cables. This was during an era where we used those wide IDE cables and everything was a fucking mess. Upgrading the ram was a huge hassle, you had to weave your way through cables like it was an amazon jungle.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hx26m8

build completed. need a better psu and was going to replace hdd

any suggestions?

pay no mind to current storage. they are there for setup and testing.

could somebody build the cheapest fully functional pc possible on pcpartpicker with a G4560 as its cpu?

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Any opinions on this combination?
Not hardcore vidya, but important
Mainly PS, Adobe AE, Premiere, video editing, etc.

>>58807398
Fuck off. Just fucking kys.

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>>58805874
>Falling for the Titan meme.

Two GPU's in one card is always considered SLI.
Most clocking programs or games support SLI properly.
Card is most likely to burn out if the fan is not set manually to maximum on full load.
SLI has worse frame timing due to having two GPU's try to weave though frames for your monitor.
Did I meantion Titan series was one card two GPU SLI?

1080 runs cooler and has better no load.

>>58807426
Why what the fuck it's the first time I come here
Is this a meme for you?

>>58807398
>DDR3

Might as well kill yourself now.

>>58807446
You can't have done even those most basic research to think that garbage is acceptable in 2017.

>>58807398
>buying into the am3 platform now
holy shit, what are you doing? go intel or wait for ryzen.

>>58807461
yeah I already corrected that one
But what about the other things? I really can't get more info on those peices I've been a bunch of days looking to upgrade my pc with a really tight budget, I simply don't know much about hardware

>>58807468
I don't want to spend more than 1k so I'm getting garbage anyway

>>58807523
Will look

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>>58807200

You are going to not use your WD than go for the SSD replacement. Don't go for the SATA 2tb HDD as the boot drive, or it would just take almost 3 times as long to run. WD external drives work the same or perhaps better because of USB 3.0.

>>58807546
>I've been a bunch of days looking to upgrade my pc with a really tight budget

The best option is to wait. I bought a Titan Z (700 series and current best) before the 1080 came out, and Titans were just two GPU's in one card for almost twice as much but less overall performance in FPS timing.

>>58807025
>frequency has pretty much no impact nowadays

Said nobody ever.

>>58806945
Slower boot time and data transfer than my 2005 Windows Vista Fujitsu .

>>58805925
Jokes and you, literally nothing in 2007 was in 1080p but in 1080i.

What's the best Z77 board that I can use to test-bench Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge CPUs? Price isn't a factor, but overclocking headroom is.

>>58807678
>he thinks CPU OC has a tangible impact on performance in games

Taking a 6700/7700k from stock clocks to 4.6-4.8 GHz will grant you an extra 1-2 FPS at best in the vast majority of modern games.
Face it, CPU overclocking for gaming is a meme if you have one less than 5 years old.

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>>58807546
>I don't want to spend more than 1k so I'm getting garbage anyway
well you were going to overspend on garbage, you can get brand new and updated hardware for the same or less.

in the image is a build for you,I included the os incase you don't pirate or use linux. it packs some serious quality but there are many ways to bring the price down well under 1k.

>>58806063
>RX 480 outperforms the GTX 780

Yeah because the 780 was like 3-4 years ago.

>>58806524
>Corsair keyboards are mediocore at best.

I have 4 mechanical keyboards, even an original model M, and the Corsair isn't mediocre. A bit overpriced but not "mediocre at best".

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>>58807812
And likewise, what's the best 990FX board for overclocking all AM3/+ CPUs?

>>58807861
Well, that's actually very helpful
Thank you

>>58807654
Also thank you too for the advice

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/user/Tactic/saved/N2QYcf
This is my build.
Want to change case and need a new cooler since the Seidon shat the bed and i'm using the stock amd fan, Any recommendations for case and cooler?
I really love the Corsair C70 and i've heard Noctua's air coolers are really powerful.
Also fans?

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is it possible to do this with a hdmi switch? I only want to use screen at a time.

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>>58805838
>He need a full tower

>>58807918
for the AIO, Corsair H100i v2 or Corsair H60 as corsair has a pretty good track record in reliable aio's. Fractal design is a really good company to go to for watercooling support in cases, so Define R5 or Define C depending on your needs and how crazy you're going.

>>58805874
literally not a single reason to not buy the 480

>>58808133
i kinda don't want to go Watercooling again after the seidon. I believe a 8350 can melt everything with liquid in two years. That i way this time is air.
Thanks for the suggestion anyway. Fractal cases are pretty good looking, i worry about space and cable management there.

>>58807999
Yes. There are two kinds of switches. multiple inputs and multiple outputs.

https://www.amazon.com/Switch-Switcher-Multi-Splitter-Output/dp/B00G1VX8ME

>>58808176
alright, then phanteks has some options like the Eclipse P400 S and Enthoo Pro M as they have really easy cable management, as for air, go with the Cryorig H7.

>>58807999
>I only want to use screen at a time.
One screen at a time or both screens at a time?
There are certain switches that have one input and two output, but depending on the model they are either in mirrored display mode or selective display mode (one output only). If you want two different outputs to two displays, you're going to need to use multiple VGA/DVI/HDMi/DP ports, since your computer will only recognize a single display output with a switch.

>>58806023
I had similar feelings, but instead of wasting money I built a dedicated Lubuntu Samba server. It is essentially a NAS, but with a few more features. It has 5TB, 2x HGST 2TB Ultra star and a 1 TB WD green, low power processor and 8gb RAM.
It is nice because now my main machine has only SSDs in it, the cable routing, airflow and autism aesthetics are all better.

The only thing you need upgrading is maybe the GPU, and PSU sleeves can be nice.

>>58808413
no, I literally mean one display at a time.
long story short, I have a tv and a wacom cintiq, both use hdmi, and I have access to only one hdmi port on my gpu. I don't want to switch the cable constantly from tv to cintiq, I'd rather just press a button to switch the display from tv to cintiq.

>>58808201
thanks anon. do they all need their own ac adapter though or are there that don't need power?

>>58808484
They all need an external power source. Even the passive switches like the one you're describing.

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>>58808042
>one poorly cooled 1080 trying to pull three 4k displays

The keks never stop.

>>58808504
it can't be helped then. thanks anon.

My new MSI RX 480 gaming x is fucking loud at load, all the reviews praised it as being the most silent card, but after hitting some specific temp it goes like a fucking jet, I can feel it change when I turn off a game and it starts cooling down
Any ideas if my fans are fucked or am I expecting too much ? Even got a sound dampening case and it's fucking distracting

>>58808610
Did you change the fan profile at all? I bet it's running on performance mode and putting the fans at 75% RPM at temperatures above 40 degrees.

/g/ can anyone tell me a good place to buy cheap OEM CD-keys that won't deactivate after a few months?

>>58806023
Why not just spend the money on a 1080ti/Vega card instead of blowing it all on a sidegrade?

Or a TB SSD

>>58808685
Vega won't come out until October.

>>58808727
Vega is confirmed Q2 m8
http://www.pcgamer.com/amd-confirms-ryzen-and-vega-launch-windows/

And if it's a competitive card, expect 1080ti shortly after

The PC I'm currently using is the first time I built one from scratch, in Jan 2016.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zchnbv

Alongside that, I also have two other hard drives from the last PC, one 500gb, and one 250gb. I also bought an Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 27 inch Monitor, 2560x1440, USB 3.0, NVIDIA 3D, 144Hz, 1ms response time.

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Looking for a budget build under $500? Check out the precision workstations on Ebay. Good 6 core xeons with 12-16gb of RAM. Throw a 1060 and ssd in one of these and you are good to go. Nothing will compare for the $500 price tag.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Precision-T3500-Hexa-Six-6-Core-XEON-W3690-3-47GHz-12GB-500G-NVS295-Pro-F1T-/391693859911?hash=item5b32c5fc47:g:jO4AAOSw7XZXh9-3

>>58808900
How did you make the decision on the 980, vs waiting?

>>58808973
Waiting for the 1080?

Once the 1080 came out, I kind of wish I had got it, but the current PC I had, was shit, and I needed to upgrade, at least.

>>58808664
No, I don't think so, also it hits a little bit over 60C

>>58809044
Its not a bad gpu by any means. And i know how it feels to have a shit machine and just have to replace it

>>58808664
Also if you use a custom profile, could you give some tips on temp/rpm% ?

>>58805838
Currently on:
>Phenom ll X4 940
>GTX 660 Ti
Planned upgrade if Ryzen is too expensive:
>Pentium G4560
>RX470

Would these be worthwhile upgrades? I feel like the Phenom is a huge bottleneck. I'd maybe keep the 660 Ti for my pre 2015 gaming purposes.

What do you /g/uys think about this build?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2gMM6X
I will be using it for recent gaymes also streaming league of fags

>>58809261
If you will upgrade your GPU, might as well go RX480 8GB or wait with 660 Ti until mid tier VEGA hits
Pentium is solid if you're budget strapped, the only other sane choice is like 4x the price

Will a 1070 / 1080 be bottle necked by a I5-6600k? Or should I get an I7? Currently have an I5 6600k and a 1060 3gb version and was think about upgrading to either a 1070 or 1080 when I get my tax refund.

>>58805874
that 480 price is wrong

>>58809507
>will a 2016 flagship GPU be bottlenecked by a 2015 flagship CPU

Reddit memes like CPU bottlenecking need to die already.
For the umpteenth time, there is NO chance of a CPU bottleneck with any GPU if you have literally any i5/i7 newer than gen 2.

>>58807596
>5960x
>GTX 1080

>1080p 60Hz screen

Fuck you

Question, how stupid would it be to build a new system with Ryzen and Vega around the corner?

>>58809631
Very.
At least wait what they bring to the table.
Worst case, Intel and nvidia lower their prices.

>>58809397
bump pls I don't want to go to leddit

quick question,
my mobo has only those fan headers:
1 x CPU fan header
2 x system fan headers
1 x power fan header
now if i wanted to add more fans with a new cause without getting a dedicated fan controller, what would i have to do?

>>58809651
>i5
>streaming
>8GB RAM
>streaming
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K4KssJ

>>58809756
3-pin-4-pin adapter. Plug right to your PSU. Many fans come with the adapter. Usually the cable that goes to hard drives has some extra 4-pin slots for example.

>>58809756
There are splitters

Radeon settings shows RX 480 memory clock at 2000MHz, is this normal ? Shouldn't it be 8000 ?

>>58805838
>because small cases are cheaper
fucking gay meme desu

>>58809770
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K4KssJ
>1500 damn dollars
I guess for the end of the year maybe feels bad to be eastern europoor

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>>58809515
WE

I´m considering buying a 144hz monitor, but not sure if 1080p is still worth it or should i move to 1440p. Since I only have a gtx 1060 6gb I'm unsure what to buy. Currently looking at these monitors:
-Asus PG248Q
-Dell S2417DG
Don't have much more options to choose since they are either more expensive or just worse than these models.

>>58809515
>invented

LEGO sets are more difficult than building assembling a PC.

>brilliant 8 year old is prodigy architect, building a LEGO tower in 4 hours after spending ₹¥100 in parts from various retailers.

>>58810000
You won't be able to run 1440@144 with 1060, but you would future proof your monitor a shitload to the future, which you could run somewhere in the next 2 years probably
I wouldn't buy 1080p monitor after getting 1440p

>>58810085
yeah I know, probably change my current card next year or so, meh fuck it i'll buy the 1440p monitor

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Any tips on fan curve ?

What's a decent 1440p monitor that won't break the bank?

>>58805838
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qkcB4C
Will DDR4 prices drop anytime soon?

>>58810180
doubt, they're jewing the shit out of RAM with an excuse that "phones need a lot of ram, so no time to make PC ram"

>>58810142
Keep fans below 1000 rpm for as long as possible. Only ramp them up once the CPU temperature hits 50, and do so with ~10% increments every 5 degrees so you can audibly tell how hot your CPU is getting after 50 degrees.

>>58810493
why <1000rpm ?

>>58810142
Now if you're going for low temperatures at high overclocks, you'll want to ramp the fans up a lot sooner before you hit 50 degrees. Maybe hit 65% rpm by 50 degrees and exponentially increase fan speeds until you reach 90-100% for temperatures beyond 65 degrees.

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>>58810586
>>58810493
Is this fine ? I don't plan on manual OC, anythings that stock will stay like that, I'm just pissed that with stock fan control after a while fans start blowing up like jets

>>58810577
Most fans stay quiet below that speed because the pressure at the end of the fan blades are just low enough to prevent wind noise (or that whirring sound you hear fans make, which is all caused by pressure differences in the air caused by fan blades). Depending on the fan design (and spacing between the blades), you can hear this wind noise slowly develop at around 900 rpm before it gets noticeable by 1100 rpm.

>>58810629
Fan speed is too low for beyond 40 degrees in my experience. What cooler are you using?

>>58810659
MSI RX 480 gaming X
>>58810659
Stock cooling doesn't even start before 50C, literally the fans are 0%, I don't think this should be too low

>>58810143

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7TrcCJ/asus-pb277q-270-75hz-monitor-pb277q

>>58810734
Seems expensive for what it is
>>58810143
I have BenQ BL2420PT, it's <250$ or so, although the bezel is thicc

>>58809847

what is the purpose of this build? because you have an awesome CPU and then everything else isn't that great.

>>58810678
Oh, I thought you were talking about a CPU cooler.
In that case, ignore most of what I said and keep fans off up to 50 degrees and start the fans at 40% RPM.
In my experience with the older MSI TwinFrozer R9 380X at it's factory OC:
>below 50 degrees
40% maximum
>55 degrees
47%
>60 degrees
56%
>~63 degrees
65%
>65 degrees
75%
>beyond 70 degrees
80% or more
Change at your own discretion.

>>58810762
>expensive

what are you looking for?

>>58809847
wew lad, that's some terrible shit you're building

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>>58809868
WUZ

>>58810000
pixio px277 with perfect pixel warrenty
ugly but cheap and good

>>58810782
Nothing, but the anon who asked wanted one who "won't break the bank" which probably means he wants a budget monitor, and the one I said I own is probably 50-100$ cheaper and although lacking the 75Hz, it is IPS

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jkDJRG

already own the RAM

>>58810824
seems solid, only thing I would change is form factor

whats the best brand of Graphic cards?

>>58810954
Amazing, wish I would have built that b4

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Let me try again. I was going to build this soon. All I have to do is hit check out.

Any last minute advices? This would only be the second pc I built. Current one is 6 years old.

>>58810990
did you consider Z270 and kaby lake ?

>>58811031
Do you mean the i5 7600k?

I read it had issues with win 7 and that's what I have

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>>58810802
KANGZ

>>58811055
You will have to reinstall windows anyway, might as well go with 10, not like it differs, if you'd really care about those things, you'd go linux
The CPUs cost literally the same(or so they did few week ago) so you would shell out some extra for the newer chipset with more features like Type C or something, no point in buying older generation at that cost difference

>>58810068
Congratulations, you are so autistic you just explained an obvious joke

Was thinking of getting a Sapphire RX460 2GB for a LAN build.
Googling a little I'm seeing lots of driver issues, Have these been sorted?
I've never used an AMD gpu before so I'm already a little hesitant.

>>58811102
Is it a real news article?

I have been bamboozeled then senpai

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Thinking of going with an i7 over an i5 for work purposes. Should I be looking at Xeons instead?

>>58811492
What type of work?

>>58806524
>mobo is overpriced gaming trash

only one with option to SLI unfortunately

>>58811541
3D rendering mostly, but also photoshop and video editing. I know I just said work, but it's more just hobby stuff. At any rate, I've got plenty to spend.

>>58811620
I'd say go with i7 over i5 for sure, but xeon would maybe too much

>>58811620
>photoshop and video editing
This stuff is extremely poorly optimized, go with the i7. Better single-core performance

>>58810990
PNY CS1311 is cheaper and performs similar, Toshiba P300 costs the same and performs better, rest looks fine and the PSU is excellent.

>>58805838
My secondary build

Pentium III 800EB
MSI 815E Pro Ver. 1
4x128MB SDRAM
PSU 450W
ATI 4650 1GB DDR2 AGP
Soundblaster PCI card
2XFireWire PCI
4XUSB 2.0 PCI
OS: Debian Wheezy


Runs flawlessly, video is shit on YT but sound is good for music

>>58806104
>This exact same pre release hype and benchmark "leaks" happened with bulldozer and we all know how that turned out.
Please, point out specific examples on sites.

Don't worry, I'll wait.

Best slim itx case that uses an SFX psu?

>>58811772
You obviously weren't here at the time. There was a ton of "leaked" benches from various foreign sources, just like we're getting now. Go dig them up yourself if you care so much, I certainly don't.

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>>58805838
Oh fug

I think I pulled on the USB port too hard when removing my keyboard

Blue stuff in the connector now. Just built this too

>>58810990
If you plan on overclocking don't buy the hyper 212, it's overpriced garbage.

>>58811955
Looks broken, sucks for you

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help me /g/, i'm bored of my case, which one should i pick from those here?

http://www.zackzack.de/html/overview/extraZacks.html?baseId=573&baseId=573&&

they're all on a hefty discount

pic ralated is my current build. i wanna adopt ryzen as soon as it gets out so i'm not limited to matx

>>58811999
I don't know how you guys don't break this shit

Flimsy Chinese garbage

>>58806063
One zen processor was shown to perform as well as one Intel CPU in multithreaded tasks
Don't be a consumer retard, at least get your AMD commercials straight

>>58812016
we don't buy flimsy chinese garbage

>>58812016
My first laptop was a used Compaq Armada E500, and i broke the only usb port on the whole thing, had to transfer everything by diskette, good times.

>>58807025
>frequency has pretty much no impact
Don't let those AMDrones hear that, that would mean zen might not be the best CPU on the planet this decade

>>58807445
Actually only SLI is considered SLI, it's different from mgpu or twin GPU cards
And what cooler?

>>58807654
That Titan XP is a single Gp102 chip and I believe the maxwell Titan is also just a single chip

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>>58805855
F U R Y
U
R
Y

>>58807859
>do this
>get 10-20 fps boost in CPU-heavy games
>get 100 extra arbitrary points in cinebench
>gain 20° at most

>>58809507
Arma 3 will max out your CPU and your GPU will still have room for more usage
If that pisses you off or this makes you angry at any company other than the ones who made the game, you don't deserve to even own a 6600k/1070 build

>>58812067
This was a gigabyte motherboard though and they should be good

>>58805838
>building a jet engine so you can browse 4chan, play LoL and WoW at an extra 70fps that your eyes cannot even fully interpret just to buy and build more jet engines in 2 months

That's right, eat the shit, lad, eat it right on up.

>>58812016
>buying desktop computers
Should've bought a Thinkpad

>>58810142
100% max all the time
Enjoy never hitting 60°
Have a room fan on to drown out noise

>>58812214
>Enjoy never hearing again
ftfy

>>58811620
I7, those programs will use the extra threads but unlike xeons it won't cost a shit load and/or you'll have raw speed if needed for "hobbyist" "work"
Old xeons had lotsa cores and pathetic power, new xeons are basically just i7's now

>>58812016
I've watched friends break USB from a range of products, I know to be careful.

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>>58810629

>>58805874
In what bizarro world is a RX480-8 230?

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>>58807914
go foar this - much better, allows for OC and way more versatile mobo. also just use win10 insider preview for free win10 pro.

>>58812378
>>58812516

I need a 1080p monitor for around 400 dollars. Was considering the benq xl2720z. Anyone want to shit on this monitor before I decide to buy it? any other suggestions? I need a monitor to be flicker free cause I worry about me eyes.

>>58812859
>27in 1080p
counting pixels

>>58812910
not really concerned cause I'll be sitting a good enough distance away from it. Its for vidya and my pc wont play 1440p at 60 fps.

Hey guys, i'm looking to finish up my build and am hoping to get some help with balancing and final touches.

This is my current build (all the parts are available in the same, local store):

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kk3WPs (price: $1736, shit costs more in denmark, the PSU is $62

it is based on the build i had help make:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hngbd6


anyways, to the questions:

Am i overpaying for the Mobo?

Am i cheaping out too hard on the PSU?

Is the 750 EVO a bad call?

cant believe everythings finally ready for me to hit buy, lol, took quite some time.

>>58812962
>my pc won't play 1440@60
but it will at 1080@144 ?

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Okay, roast me. New to overclocking, do I need a better cooler? Don't think I'll be doing anything insane though.

>>58812962
Get a TV the same size and resolution for $100
Set vsync and play until you forget about the slight lag
I mean it's not ideal but if you're waiting for "the good monitor" to be possible this is a great super-cheap option to hold you over
$400 could get you a top of the line 27" 1080 monitor, if you can't get 1440p i assume you can't get 144hz, so why spend more on a monitor with TV specs and a little lag, where the whole point is that there's better features and specs on a monitor than a TV

>>58812985
no but what exactly are you recommending? If you have a better monitor to suggest than do it. I'm asking this question cause clearly I'm uniformed about computer shit.

>>58813024
what de fug is this, full tower, 1k build but no d15, i7-7700k with a cheapass 1060?

DX12 is going to make all those cores finally matter

>>58813024
This will allow you for some basic/decent OC, the build itself is solid, just swap the GS for a G2 or preferably a G3, either way 550W is more than enough.
Also think about getting a RX480 8G instead the 1060 and maybe a smaller case, full towers consume much space and if you don't utilize the drive bays etc. then why get one?

>>58813063
I'd recommend upgrading your gpu to be able to use any monitor you buy to run at it's specifications
OR get a 1080@60 monitor that is flicker free, bezelless and other gimmicks that will look premium and use that, maybe even a 16:10, that should run you like 250 or so
I personally have BL2420PT, it's 1440p, flicker free 100%sRGB, costs like 200+, IPS, works for me

>>58813070
7700k doesn't need a $60 cooler at normal overclocks
And not everybody just uses their PC as a nice video game console, maybe he runs solidworks for his homework or is interested in Inventor for 3D printing shit, and just happens to want to play 1080p fallout as well?
$1k is not a bad price for a 7700k and 1060 build, same price range you'd expect for skylake

>>58813047
I'm used to playing /vr/ shit on a sony bvm d24. I need some thing that will match the butter smooth crt. I thought the benq would be better for that. Also sounds nice cause it has that flicker free shit. Do any tvs have that? Also is it not a good idea to get 144 hz if I would just get somewhere under 100 fps?

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How is this build for csgo? I play on low settings 1024x768

>>58813070
>>58813081
I like having space and I've got a ton of different hard drives to put somewhere.

I'd like the i7 because >>58811620, and I'm still at 1080p so I think a 1060 is more than enough.

>>58813115
i mean, you're not wrong, i just went by the assumption he wanted to use it for vidya and general use, since nothing was specified, in which case i think he might be better off with a i5-7600k to better match the GPU, or upping to a 1070, and full tower is a very large amount of empty space desu

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>>58813153
>I play on low settings 1024x768
wat?

>>58813250
1024x764 resolution and every video options on low

>>58812964
that cooler is a bit hardcore for an I5 and gets in the way of EVERYTHING, just for the sake of space I would cough up another 10-20 bucks for a 240 aio.

>>58813153
That should be good enough to play csgo on high-ultra, i'd recommend going with an i5 however, also you could probably go with a cheaper brand of RAM.

>>58813148
If you're at 144hz but only getting 100fps you'll get screen tearing, the "jaggies" that appear for split seconds
Gsync or freesync would fix that and make 60-144fps all feel fine, but that can get expensive and I feel like you're not trying to lock yourself into your GPU brand of you want to upgrade the GPU eventually

>>58813153
get pentium, but better yet buy a shittop, at that res and settings, anything will do fine

>>58813192
Well the GPU completely depends on whether or not 1080p 60hz is good enough for him

>>58813264
I know but for what fucking purpose?

>>58813153
>tfw 3200x1800 60fps CSGO on laptop
>Intel integrated graphics

>>58805838
I am going to have 1300 to spend in a month or so to upgrade my:
RAM
SSD
CPU
Motherboard

(maybe cpu cooler since I have a 212)

Would going from a i7 2600k to ryzen be an upgraded or is it still good enough? Also, what latest GPU could i get that wouldn't bottleneck on my i7?

Which company currently produces the best 1070?

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>>58813334
Gz

>>58813330
Got used to that resolution in 1.6. 16:9 just feels weird to me

>>58813333
>quads of lies

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>>58813347
Nvidia

>>58813351
>got used to 30fps on consoles, 60 just feels weird to me
That's how you sound

>>58813347
MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS and maybe EVGA, depends if they got around to fixing their Vram thermal issues.

>>58813370
Im talking manufacturer, like Asus, MSI etc. All I know is that EVGA's have been frying lately so im staying away from that.

>>58813387

It's just a matter of preferences. Id argue most cs pros play at 4:3 rather than 16:9

>>58813398
MSI is always a solid choice, someone will probably write more informatively but you should just google, there are numerous comparisons done, and even then it will go down for personal preference on what the cards offer, for example on my RX 480 MSI featured 0% fans while not gaming and ASUS featured case fan headers

>>58813398
I'd say the cheapest. Cooling isn't the limiting factor on Pascal (watercooled 1070s don't really clock higher than a budget 1070), and money is always useful to save
I got a $380 Gigabyte Windforce OC 1070 and clocked it to 2100MHz on stock voltage with zero issues at all, never goes past the 70°'s

>>58813429
Probably because pros use crt monitors with no motion blur, high refresh rates and high contrast
I guarantee 4:3 doesn't make you better at csgo

>>58813447
>cheapest
nah m8, warranty and silence while staying cool should be higher tiered than price

>>58813351
Sounds stupid. Anyways.. G4560 is what you want, i3's make no sense anymore if you ask me.

>>58813466
>pros use crt
But they don't, watch any major tournament, they're playing on gayming brand monitors with gayming gear for ad sponsorship money, pros don't become pro because they play on meme monitors or resolutions, they can play good on anything they get thrown at and make money by doing so
4:3 lowest settings is the biggest meme for cs

>>58813466
>crt monitos in 2k17

what? Most if not all use a benq monitor, usually a variation of the xl2411

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>>58813115
>nice video game console

>>58813472
Warranty is longer from the retailer than from the manufacturer
It was quiet, fans were and still are off half the time, and even with the extra heat and the maxed fan curve it's fairly quiet (because it was actually so quiet stock, I was completely fine with using "turbo fans" when I relly don't need to)
Under 75° during benchmarks seems good to me
Any more points to make?

>>58813493
What 4:3 gaming monitor exists?
Or is the point that pros don't actually use 4:3 when better 16:9 monitors exist?
I don't play games to be better than other people playing games in out of the loop

>>58813398
Get EVGA's hybrid. Their coldplate attaches to the VRM and it gets better performance running through and through on benchmarks insofar as frame-dropping than either Corsair's (MSI) or Gigabyte's solutions. Acoustically it is in the middle, but because the cold-plate is on the VRM in addition to the blower it is by far the most stable option. What's best is it's actually the cheapest, and with that said easily the best, especially if you want OC overhead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvcNkOu81qk
This is 1080's but the thermals are scalable.

>>58813553
>thermals are scalable
>1060 gets hotter than any 1070 or 1080

>>58813550
I don't think any exist, if they do they will be overpriced because the meme tax
There's not reason to use 4:3 for cs, there are TONS of 16:9 gaming monitors, like the anon above stated that pros use xl2411 or some other gaming monitor
4:3 is the easiest pleb filter on steam when fags write on their profile that they use this "pro setup of 4:3 and lowest settings" for that 600fps on their 60hz shitty monitors

>>58813398
EVGA had a bad batch of Capacitors in their FTW edition cards a few months ago.

kinda like you EVGA was a sandwich shop and people got sick because their Tomato Dealer accidentally contaminated them.

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>Buy physical copy of vidya game because didn't pay Internet and can't get on steam
>Wait one week for game to ship
>Game requires a full download on steam to even run
>Physical copy is just a steam code and a worthless disc that might as well be blank
It's still sealed, you think if I tried to sell fallout at a high school for $10 I could do it?

>>58813575
The cooler thermals themselves are scalable you fuckwit. Naturally with different chips you're going to have different TDP, and as such they will run hotter.

>>58813657
I didn't hear that, I heard they just didn't have proper cooling for VRMs, not sure how "standard" VRM cooling is but I doubt they had worse cooling than last year (which had no problems) this makes sense

>>58805838
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RBwDM8
Gibs feedback for this 1440p build please.
I might switch the H7 for a U14S, and is there any reason to get the Ultrastar over the Deskstar?

>>58805838
I really don't want to pay for windows 10. Where can I get a code?

>>58812964

bump, still looking for advise on Mobo/PSU/SSD choices, dont know shit about mobos, desu.

>>58813278
i saw some other dude putting one in a Fractal S, which seemed to fit pretty nicely, im open to other suggestions, but i've never done liquid cooling before.

>>58813725
You don't need a code to get Windows 10, you need the code to change your taskbar color
Download 10 directly from Microsoft site, it'll create a bootable USB for you

>>58813720
What monitor?
I basically have this same build but skylake (and so does 80% of this thread)

>>58813749
Yeah, I want to be able to customize shit. Unactivated version can't even change lock screen or background.

>>58813780
I'm looking at getting a Dell Ultrasharp, I like the aesthetics.

>>58813789
You can still change the background, just do it the normal way with two clicks instead of 4 different "settings" menus
Lock screens are 4 cux

>>58812859
Ill shit on it after you buy it.

>>58813153
G4560 build would be better

>>58813789
use kmspico to emulate a kms server and activate permanently

>>58811955
>>58811999
>>58812016
>>58812286
>muh flimsy garbage

It's not flimsy garbage, you're just ham-fisted retards with zero control over their motorics and retard strength.
I have never, ever broken a USB or micro USB port or cable and I use them every day, but all I can hear on /g/ is "oh em gee what flimsy garbage, I broke the sixth microUSB this month!"

Fucking troglodytes.

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Is there any substantial difference between these two apart from aesthetics and a backplate?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137049
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137032

>>58814649
Lel look at this fag so weak can't break a USB port you know how sad that is

>>58814680
Different HSF obviously... for the specs read the fucking manual. PCB should be the same.

>>58805946
Do you really need an i7?

>>58814680
the specs are literally on the pages you linked...

>>58814680
Gaming x has higher clock speeds and has a few different modes

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>>58812964
final bump, nobody? shit, at this point i'd be happy with a "nah, looks good, dawg".

i feel like its pretty solid, just really not sure on the PSU and Mobo

>>58814793
Yeah new PSU for sure, 80+ bronze at least, 500w is low but enough for that build
Do you really need 32GB of ram? 2x8 will save you $100

>>58814839
wops, mb, fucked up adding the parts to pcpartpicker, im deffinetly getting 16gb ram, must have fat fingered.

on PSU's, i'd be happy to pay a little extra to make sure it doesnt die in a month, and doesnt make more noise than my d15, do you have any reccomendations from this site?
(presorted, price ascending)

https://www.computersalg.dk/l/1958/pc-server-stromforsyning?p=2&f=a793fa43-2c86-4971-a8b6-519dce68ca82&sq=

thanks a ton.

>>58814793
>just really not sure on the PSU and Mobo
Mobo is fine but PSU is guaranteed housefire. Be Quiet makes good PSUs but this one is no better than the Corsair CX/builder trash.
Since you're from the US just get the EVGA G3, it's the best PSU under 100 bucks with excellent performance and value.
The NH-D15 is excellent, but if you want to safe a few bucks you can get the NH-U14S. No idea on what kind of OC you want, though.
Samsung 750 Evo is decent but why no 850 Evo? I'd upgrade it. Also, what do you need 32GB RAM for? It's total overkill.
The GPU is okay i guess, but that PCB review guy on YouTube found some.. weird stuff with it, so no idea. Could swap for a Zotac AMP! Extreme or Asus STRIX.

>>58814719

In 2017, yes. More and more games are incorporating hyperthreading, and the whole "i5 is fine for gaming" thing is not so accurate anymore.

>>58805838
whats the best budget monitor? Ideally I'd be spending 100-130$ on it.

>>58812378
Just bought a 480 a few hours ago for $229 with $30 MIR

>>58815103
thanks for going through the full list, im sadly from Denmark, which explains a few alternative picks.

PSU: i read very mixed reviews, so not sure, ill upgrade it and am deffinetly willing to spare some extra dollaridoos to avoid an exploding vacum cleaner.

Memory: dont need 32gb, just missclicked that instead of the 16gb version when i converted it from the site im buying from. (>>58814926)

SSD: 750 Evo, was told theres hardly any difference, but the price difference is 35$, you think i should upgrade?

GPU: really? thats deffinetly the first i've heard of it, picked this one based on its praised performance, temperature, and easy overclock(havent done that before on a gpu). AMP! and STRIX cost the same, you think i should switch? if so, which would you pick?

again, thanks a lot for the help, really appreciated since its my first ever build

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I have a VGA monitor.
I want to get a GPU that has HDMI, DisplayPorts and DL-DVI-D outputs.

Which port is the best to use with an adapter?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HBv2TH

2 weeks.
So fucking close boys..

>>58815259
>PSU
See if you can find a EVGA G2/G3, Super Flower Leadex II, SeaSonic G, Corsair RMx or Be Quiet Dark Power Pro.
>you think i should upgrade?
What's our budget? If you have the money do it, the 850 is the best price/performance SSD in the "premium" range of normal SSDs.
>GPU
Honestly? Idk. The Xtreme has no glaring issue like the Gigabyte RX480 G1 has, but imho Gigabyte doesn't make the best or most trustworthy GPUs.
They skimped on the RX cards and the 1060 Xtreme (1070 shouldn't be that much of a difference) has some weirdness to it, you better watch the vid and then decide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKDwRcjsZns

>>58815273
>all digital outputs
>analogue only input
You gotta buy an active adapter, Goy

>>58806945
Get a budget case/psu, and use the money saved there to get the i3 6100 instead.

>>58815423
Not him but what's a good budget PSU?
Around 550w.

Just booted W7 on my epikc new kabylake and it just werkes, the os wont recognise the mobo at all though and my cursor is fugged
Anyone had success with kabyjoke?

>>58814719

the magic of multi-monitor + i7 means I'm playing 2 games at once, lurking 6 boards, watching a movie, and a lets' play while reading a guide while ordering pizza

>>58815387

>SSD
you're right, im already spending a lot of money anyway, too, upgraded to 850.

>PSU
allright, i looked for all of the listed ones, and the ones reasonably priced were:

Corsair RMx Series RM550x ($113)
&
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2 ($120)

keep in mind electronics just cost a bit more here in general, either of those sound good?

>GPU
damn, thats some hardcore analysis lmao, 36 minutes, skipped through and got the gist, i think i'll swtch to the Xtreme

ps: these fucking street sign/store front Captchas are broken as hell baka.

>>58805838
What does you guys think of the https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153&cm_re=ASUS_VS248H-P-_-24-236-153-_-Product

24' monitor with 2ms response time for pretty cheap?

>>58815400
I'm seeing ones that are just a little nub, and others that are more like a dongle thing. I'm assuming those are the active ones.

What's wrong with the cheapy ones? As long as I don't have to get another screen I'd be fine with it. Of course, unless they're potential house fires more often than not.

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>>58815564
>either of those sound good?
Yes.
>i think i'll swtch to the Xtreme
The Zotac? Would be my choice, too.
>jewgle captcha
Probalby because jewgle wants you to fill out 2-3 each time so that they get more machine learning data for their botnet. Fucking kikes.

Anyone ever buy used GPUs? Looking into buying a 280x off of CL, but kinda worried. The guy still has the original packaging, manuals, etc

>>58815803
>The guy still has the original packaging, manuals, etc
Wouldn't buy used tech from people i don't know personally/trust but if he has original packaging, manuals, maybe even the invoice.. that's always a good sign.

tfw wants a mini atx but want all the benefit of 12 usb ports and all the misc ports

mini atx setups are also expensive as hell so thats why people bought full tower to begin with

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>>58815840
>mini atx setups are also expensive as hell
nigga wat?
they're cheaper than ATX and mini ITX

>>58815713

Good shit man, thanks for the help, truly appreciated.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rTjq7h

plenty of time to make changes, but its nice to have a setup i'd be happy to buy tomorrow.

>muh upgrade potential
>muh future proofing

gotta settle on a 1080p monitor for vidya/movies and ill be set, dont mind waiting 2 weeks to buy, maybe Ryzen turns out to be great or some shit like that, i'd love to live in a world, where Ryzen + Vega is the dominant CPU/GPU combo.

...and yeah, every time the captcha acts weird, it stops at 3 lol, #conspiracy

>>58815965
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rTjq7h
Looks gud. Speaking of Ryzen, i'd wait, i do, maybe it won't be shit.. who knows. I can wait until march.
Told you captchas are botnet, fucking juden are actively using you to train their skynet for free.

>>58805855
The RX 480 is like 200 bucks, what's the point of getting anything below that?

I don't know what to look for when buying a motherboard.

It doesn't directly affect performance because all the components that slot into it are what do that.
I don't know which are the good brands, and there's a fuckton of models for each that apparently have very similar slots (or quantity of slots).

How do I become a smart mobo buyer?

what games even use hyperhtreading

>>58816043
Start with price. If you aren't overclocking any chipset is good. Look at reviews. Check if it has all the features you need. Does it have all the SATA, USB, PCIe, etc ports/slots you need? As for brands, the big ones are ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte. Again, check reviews. A lot of the cheaper ones will usually have complaints of boards arriving dead or breaking within a few months.

>>58816201
Solid advice.

Thanks mister.

this board is legit as hell desu, really glad i found it, definitely gonna be sticking around and paying it forward.

even if that means i gotta keep feeding this damn jewgle skynet captcha program.

>>58816187
>every fucking game from 2017 to the end of times
>a lot of 2016 games including Bf1, Deus Ex MD, Forza Horizon 3, Gears of war 4, Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Hitman 2016 and few more

Days of i5 are fucking over, i5 2500k 4.3ghz bottlenecking me in most of games i mentioned above.

>>58816614
Yeah my trusty i5 2500k has served me well for years now, I'm just waiting to see what ryzen does to the market before I upgrade in April, planning on new mobo, CPU and DDR4 RAM. I'm pretty excited senpai.

>>58806063
>I don't get how since Ryzen has been shown to perform on par with Skylake and Kaby Lake

no it hasn't. ryzen performed on par with has/broadwell in a canned benchmark in an AMD marketing presentation. real world performance will most likely be worse than that.

>and the RX 480 outperforms the GTX 780

the 480 is a midrange card and will fall off in relevance in 1-2 years, you're better off buying a 1080ti or whatever AMD's equivalent ends up being when they launch in ~6 weeks.

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>>58808971
Problem with these is the proprietary PSU. Only way to get a non proprietary workstation GPU like a 1060 in there is to run a second power supply.

This one also looks like a proprietary case setup that would require some work to even get a 1060 in there before you can tackle the power issues.

t. My last build was a ghetto rigged HP Z400

anyone regret getting a 1440p monitor as a second monitor? I tried out a 30" 2560x1600 display in anticipation of purchasing a 27" 1440p display and I really didn't see the hype. I feel like having two 24" 1080p monitors would be better than one of each.

>>58807596
I bought a 256g ssd and have the 500g 7200 from the original 2012 build.

I just used the 160gb/ssd for bios updates and
overclock testing.

Question

I'm out of the loop so don't judge, but is AMD coming out with new GPUs soon? Or is it just Ryzen?

>>58816963
Ryzen comes in march, Vega probably in october.

>>58816975
No.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/amd-vega-gpu-release-date-specs-price-news-next-gen-graphics-cards-arriving-second-quarter-of-2017-174154/

>>58816975
Surely that'll decrease the 400 series' price, right?
I might wait until then because I'm stingy like that and I'm in no rush to go past 1080p anyway.

Is the Dell S2716DG still a solid pick for 1440p 144hz gsync?

I'm not planning a full build, but I'm thinking of picking up a new monitor plus either the GTX 1080 or 1080ti (depending on ti details).

>>58816996
Well.. Vega 10 does come in second half, only Vega 11 comes earlier.

>>58816997
>decrease the 400 series' price
I doubt that it will decrease much.

>>58812097
Nvidia more than one GPU is always SLI or else output always uses one GPU and not both.

>>58815273
I use DVI and have had success on different cards and monitors, my main display is HDMI and it plays nice with that as well in a side-by-side, with a little fiddling.

>>58817208
Also I have an active adapter, if that matters. That other anon is right, the nubs work sometimes but it seems to depend on the card and monitor, not sure if some cards are designed with that in mind and therefore support it, or if I've been lucky.

>>58805838
Alienware Aurora something.
Gaymen.
1080 FE, 6700k i7, 32 GB DDR4 Deditated WAM, water cooling, dual 500GB SSDs
POS proprietary mobo.

Eat my ass, I don't give a fuck. Shit costs me 1500$. Couldn't beat that making it myself.

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>getting excited about some SJW dyke run company instead of our closest ally
How progressive of you /g/.

>>58817302
Annnnd I will never buy another AMD product again.

>>58817302
Fuck off with this shit, it's PR bullshit and you know it.

>>58817037
>I doubt that it will decrease much
We talking about maybe 5-10$ less?

>>58817208
>>58817247
My screen is just a generic VGA AOC thing, not particularly good even.
I wanted to get a 480, but I wasn't sure which adapter would have the least lossy results in terms of quality when converting to VGA, and preferrably not catch fire or melt.
Just to be sure, the DVI on those cards takes an adapter with a full row of pins and a flat one on the end with nothing around it, right? That's what I got from it being DVI-D.

>>58817332
Intel is our greatest ally, if you don't buy from them you are going against the God Emperor's will.

>>58817370
Your Kike loving god emperor can fuck off

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I already own a case and hdds from my previous tower.
I plan on offsetting the cost of this by selling what I currently have to my brother. Is this fine for light 1080p? I don't plan on going up in resolution nor do I care about the newest games, really the hardest thing it's going to do is over watch (probably)

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COOLERS SUMMED UP IN ONE IMAGE

THE EVGA CLC IS ONLY $130 WHILE H115I IS $120

>>58817450
k series cpus are for overclocking, you need a z270 mobo for that. Drop down to a i5 7500, fuck the cooler, drop down to a 550W supernova, use the extra cash to get 2x8gb.

>>58805946
Why a mid tower with a micro atx?

>>58817501
I'm not looking for 16gbs of ram honestly. Worst case gta v would suffer but I can live with lowered quality for that game specifically. I don't use 16 with my current build as it is.

>>58817501
why not 4x4

>>58817501
>fuck the cooler
well, he should not fuck the cooler, what he should do is go with a smaller cooler, C7, M9i, Hyper T2, that sort.

>>58817397
FUck off Chink! Get cucked

>>58817710
Why smaller?

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Alright lads is this a good build which will last me the neyt 5 years or so for current gen gaming on mid/high settings

>Core i5-6600
>HD7850 2GB
>8GB RAM
>TR2 S 500W

I basically just want to switch out my tower and since i already got the GPU + periphery i aim for below 400 bucks with this one because poorfag

Just want to know if it's decent or not or if i should keep saving up heh

Waiting for Ryzen is stupid, because technology will just keep progressing. Next thing /g/ will tell you to wait for Coffeelake by 3rd quarter 2017 then Cannonlake in 2018. Then who knows what AMD will come out with next.

Just get whatever hardware is available now.

>>58817753
going with a Hyper 212 EVO or H7 is overkill for stock clocks(not that it's a bad thing), and stock coolers are loud, especially under load with the small heat sink and small fan. you are looking for something to get your computer to STFU, so you go with small cooler, with big fan.

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Does anyone actually see benefit from 32 or even 64GB of DDR4 RAM?

Currently on 8GB and it struggles sometimes. The expand all images options on 4chan can stall it if there's a bunch of webms playing.

>>58817979
Personally, 8gb is probably good enough for the average user, 16gb for gaymers/power users, anything above 16gb is for heavy video/music/photo editing.

My friend was looking for a laptop the other day and asked for help, and i couldn't believe most laptops still come with only 4gb.

>>58816012
not everybody has that kind of money

>>58817820
GPU is old and shit.

What chipset Motherboard? If it's Z170 you can atleast at a latter date grab a used Skylake or Kabylake K SKU CPU and crank it up.

Not exactly build related but somebody might know. The fans on my MSI 970 are starting to run down so I'm just looking to replace them myself. It's a 4-pin connector but I can't find the exact same model number anywhere for a decent price (or non-shady website). The Twin Frozr blades from the 200 line AMD/700 line GTX look like they'd fit (Same dimensions, 4-pin connector).

Should be fine, right?

>>58816012
If they are upgrading the GPU in an older system in an effort to keep it going for another year or two then a 480 is probably overkill.

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For 130€ is good?

>>58819423
If you have to ask if it's good, you're not going to be using the board's features that justify the cost.

Go with a cheaper board and save money.

>>58819423
Why do you want this board? For the aesthetics? Because you could probably get a z270 for that price.

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>>58819480
Cant effort 170€

Poorfag here

>>58819563
Like the other anon said, go with a cheaper mobo. You don't need a SUPER GAMER GAMING X EXTREME 360 MOTHERBOARD, thats just marketing.

>>58819587
Thx

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Local shop selling Asus z170-A and z170 Pro Gaming for the same price. Which one should I buy?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Harty96/saved/xzcgsY

Thinking of building this /g/, what do you reckon? On a £700 budget.

>>58819987
>>58819987
>>58819987

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>>58816614
>Froza Horizon 3
100% core 0, 10% on the other 7 threads