/tpg/ Thinkpad General

>>58771536

First for is there any libretard here?

I librebooted my x200 and installed Parabola, and now my 9-cell battery lasts from 6h to 3h.

Is anyone out there having the same issues?

What do I set Intel AT Module Activation to?

Already have Computrace disabled.

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Are these temps normal for a system under load (doing a full antivirus scan right now on high priority)?

Why is the gt core temp higher than the ia core if the later draws much more power? Im not sure I applied thermal paste correctly last time but too lazy to reapply now.

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>>58771536

Hey all, I just joined the business class laptop world with the Elitebook in pic related. What is my best bet to hook up two identical external monitors for viewing documents?

Laptop has a DisplayPort and a VGA port.

The monitors have an HDMI, VGA and DVI input. Here's the monitor for reference.

http://www.staples.com/HP-22vc-215-inch-IPS-LED-Backlit-Monitor/product_1922053

>>58771743

I once got a Core 2 Duo that got as high as 105 degree celsius.

I don't know if that is normal in a thinkpad but around 90 under heavy load seems normal to me.

If you feel unconfortable you can get up your lazy ass and clean up the fan, and also renew the thermopaste.

Giving it some love always gives back

>>58771847
hook one up via VGA and use a DP to (Desired Connector) adapter. What leetbok is that? 8460p?

>>58771847
What does /tpg/ think about Elitebooks? I've seen some sweet deals on them, heard they have nicer screens than Thinkpads not counting the ones with IPS.

Is there a video where Joe Rogan talks about his new Thinkpad?

>>58771536
why does my wifi randomly stop working?

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Now I must rice

Any idea why and if there's anything wrong with my T520 if it briefly turns off (all leds light up and shut down inmediately) before actually turning off when I press the power on button? Basically it does the same sort of 'check up' that it does if you remove the cmos battery. Only does this if I turn off Hyperthreading on the bios settings.

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>>58771536
have i gone too far?

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>>58773082
fattie

>>58773091 (You)

>>58773091 (You)
>>58773116 (You)
>(You)

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Is there a thinkpad that I could get that meets the specs in my image? Or something that I can buy then upgrade? I want something that I can use at work and be mobile.

>>58773331
P-series. Use the perks at work code in the OP.
They have a model that ships immediatly, but has only 8gb ram IIRC (you can just upgrade that) and a 6700hq with quadro gpu

>>58773331
>i7 3.2GHz or faster
I wonder if they realise that not all i7s are made the same.

Look into the W series. Probably W520 or W530 would be ideal value for money and will meet all of those needs save for the CPU (though it'd probably be fine anyway). Later W series or a new P like >>58773380 suggested would work too but the price would ramp up quickly.

Anyone know drivers that work with linux for x131e? WiFi isn't working and can only go through ethernet.

Also if it matters I'm switching to lubuntu since ubuntu isn't the best for a celeron

>>58774141
>Anyone know drivers that work with linux for x131e? WiFi isn't working and can only go through ethernet.
What's your network card? Though Ubuntu should normally have some sort of functional drivers by default.

>Also if it matters I'm switching to lubuntu since ubuntu isn't the best for a celeron
Unless you're worried about disk space, you can just install lubuntu desktop and use it instead.

I don't get it, why do you guys recommend them are they that good price to ratio or are you people exaggerating?

>>58774454
>very cheap for good hardware
>great build quality
>lots of interchangeable parts makes them the barbie dolls of the tech world
>lots of them around mean extensive user community and plenty of support for them
They're just great machines to use and own.

>>58774454
Refurbished ones are pretty good for their price if you can find a trustworthy seller. I've definitely spent $150 on worse things, like sunglasses.

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>>58774454
>>58774566
If you read through this thread, you'll see that the most commonly recommended generations of Thinkpad on /tpg/ right now are the 20 and 30 generations (x220, x230, t420, w530, etc.)

You will also see that the first generation that offers "modern conveniences" such as "battery life" is the 40 generation. You can read through the previous thread of someone who got an x240, and /tpg/entlemen pretty BTFO of themselves by listing all of the benefits to be reaped by paying not much more for a much newer laptop. By now, the 20 and 30 generations are almost too ancient to use for actual work. They are acceptable if they will be used around the house to masturbate to anime characters and google "donald trump is right about."


You will not get the "barbie doll of the tech world" when you move up to say, an X240, but you will get a faster and much more usable laptop computer.

How do I get the battery info? All I know is that is Sanyo and holds about 3 hours of charge?

>>58774651
So what exactly is good?

>>58774783
Lenovo's power manager on Windows does it iirc.
On linux you can run acpi -i

>>58774814
What are your requirements?

If you need battery life, you will need to go 40 or above.

If you do not, happy hunting.

>>58771536
where's that guy who always posts his shortwave radio? I want one!

>>58774899
burning in hell with the rest of us

Is this a good deal?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-W530-2-8Ghz-CORE-i7-3840-32GB-240GB-K2000M-Includes-Dock-/332110054368?hash=item4d534d43e0%3Ag%3AkIkAAOSwJ7RYTuZC&_trkparms=pageci%253Acf174976-e9de-11e6-bb2d-005056b032f6%257Cparentrq%253A02c8973515a0a25047faedbeffacb047%257Ciid%253A2

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>>58774651
I'm using an X40 and it's quite fast enough for daily use. It also gets like 10-14 hours of battery on a new 5200mAh chink battery.

Nice little machine and most importantly IT'S A REAL IBM.

>>58774928
>http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-W530-2-8Ghz-CORE-i7-3840-32GB-240GB-K2000M-Includes-Dock-/332110054368?hash=item4d534d43e0%3Ag%3AkIkAAOSwJ7RYTuZC&_trkparms=pageci%253Acf174976-e9de-11e6-bb2d-005056b032f6%257Cparentrq%253A02c8973515a0a25047faedbeffacb047%257Ciid%253A2
Not a bad deal senpai. If I didn't just buy one with a K1000 I would have bought this one.

Snap it up.

>>58774941
>X40
Might get one. an I better off getting an X60?

Are there any drawbacks to such an old machine?

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When you guys buy replacement keyboards, do you guys buy new or used? Was going to buy new to avoid pubes and shit, but the price of a new nmb keyboard is significantly more than a used one. Am I being paranoid?

>>58774887
battery life + decent enough hours of video playback

>>58774990
only be paranoid of knockoff keyboards

>>58774847
Damn only 56% of the design capacity.

>>58775005
Please do not get a 20 or 30. You have been warned.

>>58774566
>muh great
Except:
>shitty display
>underpowered for 2017
>gets scratched easily
>touchpad is shit, trackpoint is not as good as MacBooks trackpad
>batteries are almost dead on the used ones and new genuine battery costs as much as the thinkpad itself
And the list continues...

>>58775021

How likely is a knockoff keyboard? I'm just using ebay, but as long as they have good rep I should be good right?

>>58771536
If I want a 0 bloat comfy 4chan machine is a t60 still viable?

>>58775069
do your research. Know the signs. Try to get one pulled off of a working system. Message sellers, ask questions and don't get duped.

>>58775076
Just get an x200 and use core/libreboot senpai

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>i7 7500U 3.5GHz turbo
>NVME drive
>3200x1800 IPS touchscreen
>3 USB 3.0's, HDMI, USB-C 3.1, SD card slot
Opinions on this?

>>58775098
but muh aesthetics and 16:9
would appreciate it if someone could give me a quick rundown on which t60 is the best to buy, I know some have different screens and so on

>>58775112
I would like this as well.
>tfw you make 75k/yr and can buy any old shitpad you want.

>>58774651
40s are garbage my dude, and the X240 would be the worst of the bunch if the failed abortion that is the second-generation X1 carbon didn't exist

how about those integrated graphics that actually perform worse than the X230 because you only have one RAM slot?

how can you claim to have better battery life when you don't have 9cell + slice option to get over 20 fucking hours on one charge?

it's okay to make mistakes, but you should strive to learn from them instead of claiming that everyone else is wrong

>>58774454
>>58774814
>>58775005

Like I was saying, this: >>58775146

Is exactly the shit that steers people the wrong way. Please read the previous thread's discussion of the x240 so you're not wrangled into believing this fag who is trying to get you to put almost two pounds of batteries on your machine.

>>58775076
Expect it to struggle just browsing the web once you hit badly made modern websites. Just for 4chan I'd expect it'd run as well as anything though.

>>58775105
That's just a list of fairly high end shit packed into one machine anon, the only likely downsides to it are going to the price and possibly overheating.

>>58775146
>it's okay to make mistakes
Nah he's just shitposting. If the sudden advent of poor quality posts wasn't enough, it's the fact that he talks about last thread as evidence for the X240 being good, when all anyone did was say how shit it was and that you might as well just get an X250.

>>58775177
oh noooo two pounds

fuuuck that's like twice what i can bench

how will i ever handle this immense weight increase of two pounds

i better buy the second-worst thinkpad of all time instead of something remotely respectable because i'm a fucking bitch who can't handle a four-pound laptop

>>58774651

You do realize the 30 series thinkpads have better processors than the 40 series right?

So not only are they worse hardware wise, they still have an abomination of a trackpad/chassis.

>>58772694
Anyone? This shouldn't happen should it?

>>58775205
>>58775209

Those must be some sour grapes up there.

inb4 "I could buy a new one if I wanted to!"

>>58775235
My T410 does that. I thought that was normal for it but could be wrong. Either way it runs fine so I wouldn't worry too much.

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So, if /g/ says thinkpads have very shitty battery life, what are they actually used for?

They're advertised as kind of portable, cheap work laptops, but are they even good for that? Or do you guys just use them as cheap tech to mess around with akin to Raspberry Pi?

>>58774976
I have an X61s which I just got, haven't tried it out yet though. It's newer, for sure, faster, has two cores, but it is heavier and I'm not sure how the battery life is yet.

If it runs as long as the X40 and does it with more RAM and more cores I will be jazzed though.

>>58775284
Just with hyperthreading off or always? btw I meant turns off briefly before actually turning on.

>>58775303
i have a X220T with dualboot linux/macos and it pretty much behaves like any other laptop or macbook.

>>58775209
>>58775205
>You do realize the 30 series thinkpads have better processors than the 40 series right?
Only if you're buying an i7 x230.

>i'm a fucking bitch who can't handle a four-pound laptop
You sound like you know what the fuck you're talking about my dude! You must totally not be insecure or anything. How dare I suggest not carrying around half of a machine's weight in batteries.

Also, those batteries cost money you dumbshit.


If you don't like the x240, buy the x250 and forget about these poorfags who can't even save up $400.

>>58775076
T60 is perfectly fine for a daily driver anon.

>>58775303
This is a 4chan general board.

This is purchase affirmation general, where everyone buys deprecated laptops for >$200, only to put SSDs and other shit in them so they can have something to watch anime on while plugged into the wall.

Some of the content here is smart, others are people trying to drag others into the meme.

>>58775338
>poorfags
>the very previous line mentioned how expensive batteries are
Get it together, man.

>>58775331
Hyperthreading isn't making a difference. For clarification, the lamp, caps lock button, mute buttons and power button light up for a second then all but the power button turn off before actually starting in proper.

>>58775303

The battery life isn't bad, just most older thinkpads come with batteries with heavy charge cycles on them, so the battery life appears bad. I guess battery life is relative to how much you need it to last though. My x230 gets a little over 6 hours while browsing, watching youtube, playing spotify, and writing word documents, and that's more than enough for me, also considering it's not like i'm sitting there doing this 6 hours straight. You can charge in between use, or just put it to sleep when not in use.

>>58775389
>Saving up $400 at once
>buying more batteries to support a shit cheap purchase

There is a difference. Poorfags are those who are ignorant of their own poorfag logic.

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>>58775303
>buy 5-10+ year old computer
>5-10+ year old battery has poor life
If you buy a new battery, you get battery life which is competitive with today's machines.

>>58775405
I see, what you're describing is the "normal" boot process in mine, that's how it has always booted but what I meant with my issue is on mine right after pressing power button once all the leds turn on for a split second (without hard drive spinning) then turn off inmediately including the power on led and about 2 seconds later it actually boots normally with hard drive spinning up.

>Hyperthreading isn't making a difference.
Seems something's off in mine then, still works fine with HT disabled though, probably an old BIOS bug or something. Thanks for replying anon.

>>58775436
>the logic of /tpg/, everyone
Wow, the capacity of batteries are all of a sudden strictly dependent on the date of manufacture, and are all made with the latest developments!

Also, all components are equivalent in efficiency! I absolutely have no understanding of semiconductor fabrication or solid state design!


Excellent shitpost though.

>>58775436
this is delusion on another level

>>58775436
lol no..... with ultra low voltage processors in newer laptops their idle power consumption can be as low as 4 watts. Good luck trying to get an ivy bridge or older thinkpad under 10watts.

>>58775417
Have you considered that the majority of regulars in these threads simply do not like the direction Lenovo has taken with the design of newer Thinkpads? It's not about the specs or the price. It's never been about the specs or the price. If it were about specs and price, Thinkpads would not dominate these threads, but share a more equal reign alongside Elitebooks and Latitudes. What's recommended in the OP is recommended because they work well as entry-level Thinkpads that introduce a newcomer to the design ideals and features on offer without breaking the bank or being too slow for general use. Newer Thinkpads do not follow the same design ideals, so they aren't recommended. Even the --30s are not recommended because of this. It doesn't matter that the --20 keyboard can be swapped in and is all but 100% functional if you reflash the EC. That Lenovo threw out a perfectly good keyboard design just to chase trends is insult enough.

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The optic drive on my T420 can no longer read or burn CDs/DVDs.
Is it dead?
Do I need a specific T420 laptop optic drive or you can get generic internal laptop drive and swap the front plate?

>>58775853
you need a specific lenovo one but its not a big deal as theyre worth peanuts

>>58771647
i set both intel at and computrace to permanently disabled

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>>58775867
>specific lenovo one but its not a big deal as theyre worth peanuts
I see, I have a spare internal laptop optic drive from an old HP DV6, I thought the front plate could be swapped.
Where I live it's difficult to obtain parts for the T420, And can't order online.
Thanks for replying.

>>58775899
The front bezel is easy enough to remove and should fit any other drive of the same size. If you've got a spare of the same size there's no harm in seeing if it will run.

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>>58775932
The spare does run, It's the bezel that I'm not sure how remove.
Pic related, the spare optic drive.

>>58775981
Once the tray is open, there should be a few clips going from the bezel into the tray, that you can push in to get it off. As long as the clips are in the same place on both bezels I'd assume they're compatible. If you need to get the tray open without putting it in a computer, there should be a pinhole you can push something into open it.

my t430s battery has 240 cycles on it and im getting about 2 hours out of it. Lenovo power manager says the battery is healthy though... would i be seeing a lot more battery life if I purchased a new one or is the battery life mediocre on the t430s

>>58776139
See if power manager will give you an exact percentage of design capacity and that'll give you an idea of how much more battery life you can expect out a brand new one.

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>>58776004
I see, what about the eject button?
Or if the bezel clips matches would mean the eject button location matches as well?

>>58776257
I didn't really think about that. Only one way to be sure is to try it, but it should be fairly obvious if they wont line up at all. If it comes down to it you could just rely on ejecting through software if you want to have the thinkpad bezel.

>>58771536
My clit mouse's black plastic part is gone, any chance i can just jurry rigged somthing into it or I need to pay for a new keyboard?

>>58775724
My 3 years old battery on the x230 can go for more than 3 hours of light use and 1 hour and half of hard use (video editing/render), that's what I'd call competitive, today to do better than that you need to go over 1000€ and then there are ULV PCs that are not as fast as my full powered i5, and the thermal design is a shit, the thing can definitely stay a full day at full power while staying at 70° rock stable.
Seriously, bought this thing for 230€ 3 months ago and while everyone is skeptical at first sight on workplaces they have to admit the thing is fucking great even for modern standards

>>58776406
You're going to have to be more specific than that anon. I doubt it's the keyboard that would need to be replaced, if anything.

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Found a red x120e at the thrift store the other day.
Didn't know they made colored shells. Or maybe its because this school did some large order.

Don't know if it works yet as it didn't include a power supply, and I don't know where I put the one I do have for another x120e. Figured it's at least worth it for the parts; my other one has faded keys.

>>58771555
How could libreboot be even remotely connected to your battery consumption?

>>58771536
Anyone got a W520 upgraded to 16GB ram and a (example) 480GB SSD that doesn't mind telling some faggot on the internet how well it performs?
Or are there any websites for roughlyhow well a laptop performs?

>>58777147
literally the same as any other laptop with 16 gigs of ram and an ssd
you can't just say "how does this perform" and not give any guidelines to follow

>>58777392
>expecting 4chan to elaborate on anything

>>58776749
r a r e p a d

>>58776749
They made red X1**e series ThinkPads. I want one just to mess around with, but the red ones are never on ebay when i look.

Anyone used the X1 Yoga series? I am very interested in the new version supposedly coming out this month.

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-yoga/

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>>58776683
Pic related

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>>58778517
I think you just need a tip.

>>58778536
Nah, the tip don't come with the black plastic, which is the huge problem because the tip alone cant do shit

>>58778517
Search for "thinkpad trackpoint" on ebay.

>>58778536
So do they fit elitebooks?

>>58778553
Nope, don't come with the black plastic adapter

>>58778517
You mean the small black square isn't there?

>>58778597
Yes
Apparently the little shit isn't suppose to come off so levono don't make replacement for it, the only way I can get another is through another keyboard(ie buy a new one)

>>58778624
Try fixing it?
Some super glue?

>>58778649
The problem is I lose it already
I don't even remember how and where I lost it(like that would help)

>>58778548
>>58778591
Sounds like you might be fucked. You could try nig-rigging something but on something as sensitive as that I don't like the chances of a perfect fit - it might be better than nothing though.

ATA HDD on my T43 is reporting error 0 suddenly, i tried various rescue suites but they freeze up immediately when the drive is detected, what the fuck do i do, and when i salvage the data would an SSD in the ultrabay be enough to boot up a lightweight distro?

>>58778660
Make one?
If it's just a piece of plastic it shouldn't be too difficult.

>>58778694
I'm planning to make one but the problem is I don't know anything about this kind of shit. So I need your help

>>58778741
Any piece of sturdy plastic.
I made "Esc" from a LEGO.
It's a process of trial and error.
I suggest looking for tip replacement videos to get an idea about the size and shape and try to duplicate it.

>>58778684
You might need to try as many rescue suites as you can find or a live linux distro just to see if anything clicks - I doubt the internal PATA>SATA fuckery helps at all either.

>would an SSD in the ultrabay be enough
I would imagine it would be far better than whatever you have now.

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chilling at the AC (19C degrees)

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>>58774651

W r o n g

>$150 T510
>NVIDIA GPU
>1600x900
>no shitty 16:10 display
>rollcage
>classic buttons
>no lenovo badges all over the machine
>quad i7
>16GB of RAM
>fuck ton of ports
>expandable everything
>day of battery life

>>"By now, the 20 and 30 generations are almost too ancient to use for actual work"

You can do professional photo editing on a T60 from 2006 and autocad on a T4/510

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>>58779014
>You can do professional photo editing on a T60 from 2006 and autocad on a T4/510

can confirm, i did professional work on Photoshop CC on a X60t on windows 10.

sure the screen resolution is atrocious for that kind of work, but it does live up to the task and served me like a lifesaver.

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>>58779047
Did you ever use the 1450x1050 IPS panel? God tier my nigger

>>58774651
i use a i5 x230 for 2d graphic/video editing/compositing/3d modelling and rendering on the go and it is perfect, not much to envy to a 2014 MBP

of course i have a main desktop for things like ray tracing but all the work i need to do by myself is done on the laptop, cause is more than enough

where can i found an IPS screen for a x230, reasonable price and original or something i won't regret?

also, are duracell batteries good? i have one for my old canon and it is perfect, don't know about laptop ones and if they work

>>58778536
memepoint tip tiers:
>god tier - left
>good tier - right
>shit tier - middle

>>58779192
i've worn out my tip (right), where can i purchase those other two tips

I just got my package with a T420 and it's fucking great ! Best meme purchase ever made

New X1 Carbon or X1 Yoga?

Touchscreen is absolutely useless for me, but only the yoga comes with iris graphics. It also has OLED, though you have to give up on matte screen for that too, besides the size and weight...

>>58779452
Get a P50 with the EEP discount

>>58779134
afaik the X230T have IPS exclusively, but not ure if they are compatible with the mountpoints on the regular X230.

go find out anon, if they are compatible you can get spares from the X230T more cheaper than those shady IPS

>>58779472
>2.5kg
>last gen graphics
>off-centre keyboard
>66Wh battery at that size when even a shit fucking macbook pro that's much thinner and lighter has 99.5

and that's before looking into whether this one carries the tradition of terrible trackpads and displays endemic in non-x1 thinkpads lenovo has been pushing out recently

cannot find a decent x220 for less than 200 bucks in europe

any other site besides ebay to check?

>>58779424
I bought a bunch on eBay for a few bucks, and as luck would have it they've fitted every Thinkpad I've owned so far.

>>58774651

(you)

>>58776905

I honestly don't know for sure, maybe libreboot handles CPU throttling or something. Maybe it participates on charge measurement so it gives an erroneous reading.

Fun fact: there is a known issue in libreboot with x200, that produces noise in I don't remember which PCB lane, that you can actually hear. Give me a sec, and I'll look it up.
I CAN actually hear that noise.


I can tell you that, since I had my X200 libretarded (Atheros WiFi card, SanDisk SSD, Libreboot, and Parabola Linux-libre) it uses twice the power to function.

I already installed tlp and everything, and still doesn't get better.

(Now that I think, maybe I installed tlp, but didn't specify that I wanted it to be activated all the time)

>>58779076
>XP
What do you use on it?

>tfw you bought an awesome W520
>seller still doesn't ship it

>>58774651
>he believes that intel literally has surpassed sandy bridge
Even my 2012 MBP could do my heavy work fine. A W520 does it even faster.
Stop talking FUD, Lenovo.

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The optic drive in my T430 no longer works.
There is power but it can no longer read.
So I'm thinking of getting HDD caddy and use it for extra storage.

However I'm afraid the fault is bad connection from the slot part, and it will render the HDD caddy useless.
How do I check for this?

>Thinkpad t420
>Everything is great, except it can't burn DVD
Should I get a new DVD reader? It's the Optiarc DVD ROM DDU7710H SCSI CdRom

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>>58780204
A lot of failed optic drives.
Is this a specific thing to the thinkpads?
Or it's because of the constant usage and shitty manufacturing of the optic drives?
Or the optic drives are meant to last for 3-5 years?

>>58780193
HDDs caddy are only a electrical bridge with a thingy to support the HDD and fill the space of the CD Drive.
Just get a HDD that you don't use for test it.

>>58779708
Do any euros use proxy shippers? Even with the added cost it seems like it would still be cheaper to import from America

>>58779452

x1carbon, it's cheaper, has a smaller footprint, and new bezel looks great. The oled screen gives noticeably less battery life, and have to worry about burn in. How much do you really need/want the iris graphics? Unless you specifically need it for something, it doesn't seem worth paying for.

>>58773331
my yoga 14 from '15 that has a geforce 940m would work. It also has a 2.7GHZ I5 They may have switched to a cheaper intel chip on the newer ones.

>>58775112
what is with the autism over 16:9. I never even noticed until an anon pointed it out on mine. it's a pretty awesome screen for my tiling terminal emulator.

>>58775853
this is only cute because of the anime girl. anyone on /g/ would look like a slob with a setup like that.

>>58776202
i check the battery wear with batteryinfoview

my t430s's has around 80% capacity left, which is around 4hrs with the iGPU. Still tinkering it tho

>>58780295
I know that.
What I mean is the connection between the HDD caddy and the laptop.
In windows the optic drive show up, indicating it's connected in linux it doesn't.
How do I find that?

>>58780300
are you saying that proxy shipping from US is cheaper than directly importing from it?

I'm after a university laptop for web browsing/word processing.

Want to throw a small SSD in it for speed on boot etc, get a good battery like a 9 cell, and importantly I don't want a garbage resolution. Which model should I look at?

T420/430? X220?

>>58781168
If I was in your shoes, I go for the X models, I prefer something actually portable, so nothing bigger than 12".
You could also consider the x230, if you dont mind the chink keyboard

My X201 with manjaro installed is probably the comfiest thing ever.

>>58781195
Don't they have like a 720 screen though? I like the idea of small but not the idea of a resolution under 1440x900

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My Yoga with delicous ips and digitizer

>>58779014
>You can do professional photo editing on a T60 from 2006 and autocad on a T4/510

You don't own an engineering firm, do you? "Can do" and "can do professionally" are two drastically different categories. It is really cool that you can open photoshop on your T60. Good job. Do not recommend it for professional work though.

>>58779047
>screen resolution is atrocious

I'm glad that you care about the quality of your work.


There is nobody who could convince the Legion of Autists that there is any conceivable way that a Thinkpad made today is better than the T60.

Again, nobody here will concede that there is any purpose for machines newer than 2012. I have bought the Thinkpad brand since 2004 I bought 20 machines from Lenovo in 2012. I still have 2 of them hanging around, while they are good for students who would like to be tied to the wall a little more than most, they are not the ideal purchase today for professional work.

>>58781222
>wanting something more than 1366x768
>says he needs to read bunch of words

>>58781227
>laptop with defective digitizer
>razer keyboard
kek

>>58776518
>3 hours of light use
>competitive

/tpg/ will unironically defend this.
If you are in this thread you are in an (((echo))) chamber.

>>58781244
SOUR
O
U
R

GRAPES
R
A
P
E
S

>>58771536
All of the people I've worked with who use chink pads literally smell like shit. They have dirty long fingernails and scratch their ass and pick their nose. They come to the office in dirty clothing with clear signs of cum stains on their trousers. Thinkpad users are literally filthy degenerates.

>>58781318
I use a thinkpad but I am a cute little girl tho

>>58781233
It helps being able to see more than 4 lines at a time.

>>58781343
Do you have cum stains on your trousers? I need to know because Thinkpad demographics.

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I've finally got it. My first ThinkPad is a x220, pic-related. It's a second-hand but very well preserved unit.

I want to install Linux but I'm still wondering which distro would fit these specs perfectly.

Is there any consensus here?

Help here /tpg/

I need a Thinkpad that I can use to play movies at 1080p via HDMI to my TV. Removable battery and storage being essential too.

Cheapest model or earlier model that you can suggest me.

>>58781417
gentoo

>>58781417
If you dont mine compiling, then the choice is Gentoo

>>58781343
You think you're a cute little girl but you're actually a 250 pound white man who watches weaboo cartoons made for children.

>>58781417

if(you == know what you're doing)
{
    printf("Install gentoo");
}

else
{
    printf("Install manjaro");
}

>>58781480
oh, here it comes the cool guy

>>58781278
Basically. The digitizer is precise and updates really fast. The razer mech keyboard is completely unrelated but I bought it refurbed for $40 on Newegg 2 years ago. The same price as the knockoff junk people buy from china. So I can't complain.

Why are these thinkpad threads sour grape threads half the time? Lenovo even switched back to the physical buttons for the trackpoint.

>>58774967
Just pulled the trigger on this. Looking to upgrade to an SSD in the next month or so on it. Any thoughts?

>>58781265
Try with any standard computer under 1000, not ultrabook, that is optimistic, and we are not counting the battery age, when new (and that's about 60 for a 9 cell if I'm correct) it is about 6 hours which is great for a 200 PC with a full powered i5 if you ask me

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so i know the recommended price for a used x220 is 220 but what about one with upgrades like this? what should i offer

https://nh.craigslist.org/sys/5968180768.html


this is my first think pad

>>58781894
I7, ssd, 8gb... It looks very used but it will be solid, if you want the power the price is nice

>>58778997
it's not a good idea to post your boarding pass to internet

>>58782392
Phoning in terrorist chink pad user.

>>58782853
Same fag

His battery is already flat so he can't read this.........

>>58782392
if you dont noticed i erased my name and id number off it.

>>58778997
how is the wacom on mac os x?

>>58781894
Awesome image

>>58782904
Forrest threat called in

>>58778997
SWAT on their way weeaboo nigger

>>58778997
Also piracy of OSX detected. You're fucked son.

>>58782924
it werks. theres no way to calibrate or anything like a normal wacom tablet but it werks fine, even the pressure control

>>58782932
wat

>>58782957
>SWAT
implying theres anything like swat here.
>weeaboo
i dont even watch anime

>>58782988
>OSX
>Piracy
you cannot pirate something that is free.
anon pls

>>58783021
Terrorst in seat 10A on 10:40 flight InselAir + Flight details.
>> kek

>>58783066
do you realize i do posted the photo after i arrived?

who are you gonna call? the fucking ghostbusters?

>>58779110

Yeah, with 16GB of ram on an x230 you can run quite smoothly inventor assemblies

>>58776518
>3 hours of light use
>great for modern standards

what the fuck are you doing with the battery? myx230 with 9cell at 58% its capacity still gets better battery times than those

>>58783373
because it always stays at 58% while plugged into the mains?

Why do people recommend the t430 and t420? the screens are horrible and upgrading said screen to something better is a real hassle. The T520 and T530 are the ones to get as you can just drop the B156HW01 V.4 1080p wide gamut display in. Its amongst the best TN panels i've seen and even gives many IPS panels a run.

so if a X220 with a 9cell battery will get 12 and a half hours or 20 hours and 18 minutes with a slice

how would it perform with a SSD, Ram upgraded to 8GB, windows 7 64 bit, and an i7 CPU?

Anyone else have problems with suspend in linux with x230? No matter the distro used I have around 50/50 fail when trying to suspend the machine. The thing is that the logs show that the suspend was successful, but the machine just shutsdown.

Couldn't find anything by googling, so thought I might give it a shot here.

>>58783580
>i7
worse
>SSD
better

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>>58783021
>OSX
>"free"

>>58783980
believing was free as a free beer.
low bait is low

Getting a fully paid for laptop for work.

Ideally I would like to get the 2017 Thinkpad line but I don't think they'll be released early enough.

I can't decide between a fully kitted out X1 Carbon or T460.

I want to maximize battery life, portability is important, but not a game changer. From what I see, the T460 has a worse screen, even with the IPS. The Carbon doesn't have anything specifically bad with it, except for the inability to replace battery and fix components.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

>>58778684
>>58778914
bit of an update : puppy recognizes the HDD when it seemingly randomly doesn't mind booting but gparted shows it as unresponsive and lacking any partition or filesystem, puppyrescue also gave the same results.
right now i'm considering getting one of those ebay ATA-SATA adapters and hooking it up to another machine though i'm not sure if it'll work with a laptop drive because IIRC they have less pins, can anyone give me feedback

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>>58784285
>doesn't have anything specifically bad with it,
>except for the inability to replace battery and fix components
I don't think you thought this through...

>>58784552
It's not something that affects my day to day workflow. Why do I give a fuck?

I have no problems dropping modularity if it gets me a superior device.

Tell me /tpg/, is this a good deal? I;m looking to downsize from my T510.

>x220
>i7-2640M
>1366x768 IPS touch screen with stylus
>16GB ddr3
>60GB SSD, and a 320GB HDD
>$275

>>58784576
>I have no problems dropping modularity if it gets me a superior device.
t. macbook survivor

>>58784285
You could also consider the T560, which would give you a bit more battery capacity than the T460, and having a quick look at some reviews it sounds like it has a wider colour gamut but less brightness on the FHD than the T460 and X1 Carbon 2015. Of course then that sacrifices portability. Any of them will be reasonably solid choices though.

>>58784344
If you can't find any information about whether laptop drives use different connections then you could used a standard one, as long as the drive will physically fit it. I assume the converter chips would be able to cope, and they're fairly inexpensive even if it doesn't work out.

More than anything though, I'd make sure that there's data on the drive that's actually worth recovering.

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>>58783955
how worse?

>>58784592
USD?

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Scrub here, when doing something graphical usually watching vids in fullscreen, my t450 ends up having flashing white/black pixels on the top of the screen, any ideas? Thanks

>>58784826
Yup, USD.

Local too, so no shipping.

>>58784844
fair price desu good thing you got the i7 because i think those are the only models that came with usb 3.0

>>58784835
Why is the a giant jizz stain on the screen?

>>58784930
just some random youtube vid

>>58779014
>>>58774651
>W r o n g
>>$150 T510
>>NVIDIA GPU
>>1600x900
>>no shitty 16:10 display
>>rollcage
>>classic buttons
>>no lenovo badges all over the machine
>>quad i7
>>16GB of RAM
>>fuck ton of ports
>>expandable everything
>>day of battery life
>>>"By now, the 20 and 30 generations are almost too ancient to use for actual work"
>You can do professional photo editing on a T60 from 2006 and autocad on a T4/510

Where you get that ? Men from european country

>>58784974
Oh, I thought that was screen damage. Didn't realize they were clouds

>>58775338
You can easily spend over 1K in mods for a T60.

Does the T420 keyboard fits in a X220?
I need to repair a X220 that it has lost the left trackpoint button and is starting to fail. I know that I could buy on eBay a new one, but I need
>the keyboard repaired before March
>a Latin American one
There's a guy selling a X220 keyboard in my shitskin ebay, but the fucker is asking 62 Trump dollars for it.

>>58785816
>X220
X220 tablet I mean

>>58776257
Is that a shaved fluffy pony?

I can get a T520 for $250 or a T530 for $310 (AUD).

Is HD4000 worth $60 more than HD3000? That's the main difference I can tell between the two laptops; CPU performance is negligible between Sandy and Ivy.

>>58786069
HD4000 have 4 shaders more.
If you need the battery life, then get the T520, and use the $60 to get the FHD screen.

>>58781417

Fedora. It's simple, well mantained, and It's not debian based.

After you feel confortable with linux you can begin installing more obscure distros and have fun.

>>58786069
CPU performance is still something if not much, but will probably impact battery life more. You also get USB3. HD3000 will still play your chinese cartoons fine, the only improvement will come to vidya which is going to be shit anyway.

My computer spontaneously deleted a pen-related driver, and I don't know which.
Is there a way I can get all the drivers I need for a specific model?

>>58786171
First-gen Helix btw

Just scored two X201's with 8GB RAM, 30GB SSD, i5 2.4GhZ, Chargers + 9Cell's on both, and in great condition off Craigslist. Guy who sold them was a cool ass dude

$100 each.

>>58785816
La muerte peluda

>>58786135
Yeah, USB 3.0, i forgot that one.

>>58776749
i wonder how much it's worth to a collector

>>58780253
It's been six years and my t420's CD drive is still working.

any chance to get a x320 or T70?

what's a good expresscard for an x220 for usb ports?

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What cai i do with this heavy thing? it has the best keyboard that i ever seen.

>>58785816
>>58785830
pls respond

>>58786827
post sexy pictures of yourself with it on tumblr

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Hey guys, i got this laptop, i was wondering if it was a good invest?
>Toshiba Satellite P55t-B5262 15.6" 1TB Intel Core i7 4th Gen 2.5GHz 12GB RAM
Just for starting, also should i swift to W7? Once it arrive?

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Should I buy a thinkpad?

I need a laptop of some kind for my chem classes. I really doubt there will be any kind of programs required for the course, so it will mainly be used for note taking, emailing, browsing, etc. Very basic stuff, ya know?
I'd be using it around 4 hours a day maximum with breaks between theory and lab classes. I've heard some bad things about battery life. Would a thinkpad handle 4-6 hours of light use with needing a charge?

So would a thinkpad or the like be good, or should I spend the extra money for a proper laptop?

>>58787830
If its an old one, you'll need multiple batteries or charge between classes.

>>58787830

I'd reccomend an X series thinkpad preferebly 30 series or better if you want better battery life. I get over 6 hours on my x230 with an i7, however that's on a brand new battery. Buying used means you might have to replace the battery if you want optimal battery life. If you don't end up going with a Thinkpad, consider a laptop with the Haswell(or later) U series cpu. They're low power cpus, so you're likely to get better battery life.

>>58787830
supposedly a X220 with a 9cell battery will get 12 and a half hours or 20 hours and 18 minutes with a slice

>>58788011
>>58788034
>>58788046
Thanks for the info, guys.
Looked at the buying guides. The T series was said to be the best all 'rounder, but from what you guys have said I'll probably get an X series for the bat life. Does the T series really get <6 hrs battery life? That seems way too short for any kind of computer.

Looks like an X230 or X240 would be a good choice, if no anons can think of a reason why not.

>>58788189

X240 isn't very beloved here due to the new chassis, new keyboard(can't be swapped for old like x230), and bad trackpad. Honestly if you can find one on the cheap, I reccomend the x250, if you don't want to bother swapping out the x240's low points.

>>58781615
Save for the Samsung PRO over the EVO.
I have an EVO in my MBP and tried out the PRO in my X230t and W530 after a windfall and love them.

>>58780004
did you update to the latest ec firmware

>>58788189
Try finding something with an IPS, just got my T420 yesterday and it has pretty terrible viewing angles.

>>58788237
Oh, I didn't even realize there was an x250. The guides didn't make much mention of it.
Thanks for the warning. I'll do a bit more research on the X230 - X250 to see what's good and bad.

>>58788284
They're currently up to the 60 series, with the 70 series coming this year

>>58788238
Awesome. I have a Samsung Evo in my PC that I've had a good experience with, but it's about 3 years old and I haven't been in the market for one since. Thanks for the advice!

is it worth spending extra for an SSD on x220? I heard the SSD are the old shitty kind with limited read/write and speed barely above 7200 rpm HDD.

>>58771536

real talk anon.

I want to get an IBM era Thinkpad, for under $100, for the sole purpose of putting linux on, and dicking around.

I probably won't be running Windows. If it's under $100, I'll prolly throw an SSD in, I'd spring for more if it included it.

>>58788682
Perfectly fine. You can just install your own if you want too. They're SATA III and among the era when lenovo issued a grovelling apology for the fact that the *61 line was limited to SATA I when the hardware was perfectly capable with a BIOS mod

>>58786827
Whatever happened to the old Install Gentoo? I wonder how long a stage 1 would take

If I get a 15'' t60 it'll be 16:9 right? Also what res do the flexview screens have?

>>58788905
No. 15" models came in 4:3 and 16:10 variants. Only the 4:3 models have Flexview screens, which can be either 1400x1050 or 1600x1200. 1024x768 15" T60s are ugly TN. 16:10 models are also TN, and the highest resolution available for them is 1680x1050. 15" T61s go up to 1920x1200.

>>58786827
What model is that?

>>58781804
new batteries will not make it a modern machine.
"full powered" just means inefficient newer generations have given equal performance using far less energy

Hey, I'm a student and was thinking about getting one recently. I'm really only looking for a laptop that is linux friendly, comfortable to type on, and has a semi decent battery life. It doesn't have to be all that powerful as I'm just going to do coursework on it which for the next few semesters is just different iterations of c and a little bit of python. Would one of the cheaper thinkpads fit my needs?

>>58789365
sucks, but this is true

Why is it so hard to find a T420 with a 1600x900 display here in Ausfailia, its either a T420 with the shittier display or a T420s with the better display but of course shit battery.

What are some Thinkpad accessories that are not Thinkpads that I can waste money on?

>>58789601
Because companies don't see screen quality as something that improves productivity and thus don't buy models with those screens in significant numbers. Especially in a smaller market like here you'll get much less choice in the market at any one time as well, just be glad the prices aren't as fucked as Europe. Though honestly the price for a T420s with HD+ is pretty reasonable if they fit your needs.

>>58789639
>docks
>parts to go in any empty slot it has even though you'll never use it anyway
>the kind of shit you'd normally get for any other computer anyway

question

will an x220 run pcsx2 smoothly (games like shadow of the colossus) or x230 would be a safer bet ? recommend me something within that price range please,

>>58789639
Backpacks.

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>tfw listened to the memes in this echochamer and bought a thinkpad
>realise a HP elitebook would have been way better for the same price

Fuck you guys.

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Lenovo Thinkpad 43 (0A36310) for 64 euro ? I think it is a good price ? How much life would that last before having to buy a new one ?

>>58789825
just saw it has +25 euros sending, fuckers

>>58789831
>>58789825
found one for 63.5 euro total, should I snatch it for my t430s ?

Anyone know what these little holes are for?

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>>58790070

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>>58790070
forgot pic :^)

>>58786827
THICC

>>58789388
sure, but you might get into trouble if you have lots of tabs open on your browser at the same time

>>58790092

Telemetry

Recently bought a t420, has everything I want except the fingerprint scanner.
If I were to buy a keyboard bezel with a fingerprint scanner, would it be doable to install it to my laptop?

>T420 optic drive stops working
>swap it with optic drive from different laptop
>LED flashes when booting
>it doesn't open the tray nor appear with lsblk
>swap it back to it's original laptop
>everything just works
What's going on?
The optic drives are from the same size and the same port.
While one from 2009 and the other from 2011.
Also the thinkpad optic drive didn't fully insert in the other laptop slot.
Different designs??

>>58790937
yes plug and play

>>58791194
Alright, thanks Anon.

>>58791201
Just be careful though and make sure its working. They commonly shit themselves.

>>58779192
just ordered the left two off eBay, I never liked the one on the right

>>58791261
Will probably wait then. I'm a poorfriend and it seems like it'd cost me $75 ish on eBay. Can't justify spending almost 100$ on it if it's going to die on me. Plus I probably won't even use the thing.
It's good to know, however, that it can be done.

>>58791331
$75 just for a t420 palmrest/bezel with fingerprint reader? wtf. should be around $20 tops.

for $75, you can get a cracked screen t420 for the same price and strip down the extra parts.

>>58774899
I'm here. Get the Sony ICF-7600GR!

I think about buying one of the old elitebook touchscreen model, i'm thinking 2760p
The question is, is the touch comparable to the new tablets or smartphones?

>>58791452
If it's anything like the X220t, it'll work. And it'll work decently for what it's intended to do. But the X220t does have weird limitations - the multitouch is only intended to work fluidly with 2 fingers. Up to 5 fingers is officially supported but only works in the form of "gestures" if that makes any sense at all
Given the age of the 2760p, I'd expect something similar. For 1-2 fingers, Windows 8/10 will work fine. But the fluidity definitely won't have the same feeling as what you'd find on a Surface Pro or the like

>>58791085
It really would be preferable to find a serial ultrabay enhanced compatible drive for the T420

>>58791540
>serial ultrabay enhanced compatible drive for the T420
How would I know that?
Does it need to have "serial ultrabay enhanced" on the drive?

>>58790937
>>58791331
Why would you EVER trust a fingerprint scanner? Biometric IDs are very insecure, even when ignoring possible flaws in implementation - as soon as someone has your fingerprints(and they're literally everywhere you touch) they can use it to sign in. If you don't care much about security, just use a fairly simple password, if you do, you should use two factor authentication consisting of a keyfile and a password.

>>58771847

Get a DisplayPort to HDMI or VGA or DVI adapter and it will work from there.

>>58791402
Cheapest I can find on Canadian eBay, 80 leaf dollars.
ebay.com /itm/172358203230

>>58791574
Honestly famalam, it isn't really about using it, but having it. Without it, it doesn't seem as complete, I need to have all the bells and whistles, or else it tickles my autism.

>>58791560
Basically it has to be a ThinkPad one and if you're ebaying it, the listing should tell you

>>58791574
Some like it for the convenience or fun factor. If he has someone bothered to pick his fingerprints off surfaces and printing them to login, he's probably got bigger things to worry about. The everyday thief will be a lot dumber than that

>>58771555
Linux has no fucking idea how to optimize for battery consumption, I had the same issue on my W520.

sudo pacman -S tlp

should fix it for you. Doubled my battery life.

>>58772122
probably decent but they look even uglier than thinkpads

What are the preferred options for a t420? any gpus/cpus that overheat? are certain screens worse than others?

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>>58792223
>I need to have all the bells and whistles, or else it tickles my autism
Let me guess, this is your idea of a perfect computer case?

>>58792310

I did that, but had no effect. I had tlp in on my previous distro when it wasn't librebooted, and it did work like a charm (6h-8h life)

I'll check if maybe the service wasn't enabled. (It is supposed to enable when you install the package, but with arch, who knows?)

x220 with i7-2620M, 4gb ram and 128gb ssd for 140€, good deal?

>>58778997
>spotify

>>58785173
I know this feeling.

Quick question: I've got a W530 with a Samsung PRO SSD. Would I see any benefit in adding an mSATA SSD? What are the typically used for?

>>58793691
mSATA SSDs only work at SATA II speed, so it'll be slower than your SATA III SSD, though not by any real noticeable amount outside of benchmarks. The main use would just be to have even more storage, since you can get up to another 1TB in your spare mPCI-E slot. It's not as practical or affordable as a regular 2.5" SATA SSD, so it's not really worth bothering with outside of X series. You can just get an Ultrabay caddy for your W530 if you want two drives.

>>58793792
I was reading about mSATA SSD caching, but it didn't make sense today given the SATA II speed. Would it's only use be redundancy in the case of wanting a DVD RW drive?

Besides for SSDMAXRAM is there any other crazy hardware I can rice out one of my W530s with?

>>58771536
Can I get EPP discount for Dell over here?

What happens when you charge a laptop with a higher voltgage AC adapter? Is the laptop responsible for stepping down voltage to meet its spec??

>>58793691
>>58793792
what is the oldest thinkpad that has msata capability?

>>58792892
Yeah, no. I have a fractal design r5, and it is pretty much the perfect computer case for me, right now.
Sorry, Anon, I'm not a minimalist patrician, like yourself. I like having a radio in my car, a removable battery and an headphone jack on my phone. Even though I won't use it, it's there.

>>58794432
Sounds like a bad idea.

>>58794665
*20 series, even though they will physically fit in the slot of previous thinkpads, SATA != mPCI-E. The laptop needs to have the right controllers.

>>58794823
>SATA != mPCI-E
literally didn't understand anything here bruh

>>58794823
>sounds like a bad idea
Yup, just gained some knowledge regarding the topic from another thread.
Basically, all devices have a certain voltage tolerance range that falls out of the official in spec so you might get away with using an adapter that's close to the in spec voltage. However, it's riskier the further you get from the center in spec value.

>>58773096
I might try this.

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I currently have an X220t with an i7-2620m and 8GB of RAM and I'm very very happy with it. I actually use it more often than my desktop. But realistically that might really be due to the fact that my desktop has an overclocked FX-4100 which is easily beat even by something like a 2011 ThinkPad.

So what exactly prevents me from stripping my desktop and selling the used parts for dirt, buying a docking station and a eGPU adapter, and just docking my ThinkPad whenever I need anything desktop related (3 screens, GPU, ect.)?

I guess I could save up and finally get a proper desktop, but that's not an option in my current situation. I could've 2 years ago, but not now.

>>58774454
>they that good price to ratio or are you people exaggerating
They used to be in my country, resellers caught on the meme and now the cost just barely lesss than equivalent options.

>>58795124
>So what exactly prevents me from stripping my desktop and selling the used parts for dirt, buying a docking station and a eGPU adapter, and just docking my ThinkPad whenever I need anything desktop related (3 screens, GPU, ect.)?
Seems to be hit and miss for some people, if you're lucky and all is plug and play then great if not a desktop is better.

>>58771536
Is there a good place to consistently find some cheap thinkpads for about $100 USD?
I'm going to buy my sister a laptop so she can start doing her own thing instead of watching movies on my TV at night.
All she'd probably need it for is Facebook, YouTube, and maybe some lower games.

>>58795889

ebay. you can get x200's with no HDD or battery for $40-50, high quality knockoff batteries for like $35, and a real power adapter for like $20. Just throw in any old 2.5 SATA drive you have laying around into it, or get her a small /csg/ SSD.

Actually raise the budget a little bit and get her an x201 , they come with a touchpad so even plebs can deal with it.

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Are there literally any good thinkpads with 16:10 ratio AND USB 3.0?

I've tried a few of the expresscard adapters on my x200 and wasn't satisfied with any of them. I was only was able to hit about 40 MB/s sustained (as compared to the ~20 MB/s I get over USB 2), and they fucked up the ability to hibernate automatically.

I guess I'd settle for a good eSATA implementation. I just want to be able to transfer files to external drives at >100 MB/s and not be forced into some 16:9 dogshit. (I tried both t420s and x220 and couldn't deal with the screen.)

>>58789901
The t430s battery life is pretty shit without it at least my one is. Up to you... pretty damn expensive for what it is.

>>58795889
Get her a tablet

>>58796345
Must be a shit adapter card, not even considering it's pcie 1.0 should it be that slow. I get >140mb/s (limited by hard drive speed) on a transcend card on my t520. That or you need to adjust something on the bios settings.

Check the cable quality, once I got only 50mb/s on the same setup I got the above speed, turned out the cable being rolled and slightly misplugged was affecting speed, after unrolling and properly plugging it it went away.

>>58796232
Cool, thank you a lot, anon.
>>58796582
Was considering a laptop for shit like alt-tabbing between open windows, having buttons for media stuff, and other multitasking, but thanks, will take it into consideration.

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Just got a kit to install a better display on my x201! After this I'll have done everything (easily) possible to this thing!

How easy is it to set up an eGPU setup for an X230? I currently live between two places and I can't be fucked to lug my desktop PC back and forward all the time and I'm too broke to buy a new desktop, and since I keep my X230 docked when I'm at home anyways I figure that I might as well get a 1050 Ti or something similar since the integrated graphics on the X230 can't even run Runescape at a high framerate and decent settings.

What's a decent think pad I can buy to install Ubuntu or Elementary OS on that won't run like shit?

>>58796945
Pretty much any as long as it has an SSD, go for an X220/X230/T420/T430 and add a decent sized SSD to it.

>>58781231
>own an engineering firm
You don't either. I know somebody that does and every is on the BYOD program, and there are some elderly Thinkpads which see daily use.

Most of engineering or other technical work involves thinking. Any computer newer than say, 2004 or so can handle CAD tasks easily.

Are you a chink or a poo in loo by chance?

Most modern SSDs will fit into a T420, right?

>>58781417
Just use Debian, it is the gold standard.

>>58797018
>You don't either.
I do.

>can handle CAD tasks easily
"CAD tasks"

>>58787830
I use an X40 as a daily driver (when I'm away from my desktop) and it's quite fast enough for your uses. It will even play HD video with mplayer. Avoid Windows if you can, Linux or BSD is the way to go on older laptops.

>>58797812
>I do.
No, you don't.

>"CAD tasks"
Yep, mostly CAD and Matlab these days. Both of which run fine on 10+ year old hardware.

>>58780777
If you are into video editing you can't view your video and your little control bars and shit at the same time. Other than that I've not heard a valid complaint.

I prefer 4:3 so what do I know though.

Anyone has OSX on their Thinkpad?
Thinking about putting it on my T430, getting bored of Ubuntu

>>58797728
probably all 2.5'' ssds will fit, seeing that they're the same size of 2.5'' hdds

just beware, some of them are thinner, but they come with a rubber bumper to increase the height

>>58797899
>No, you don't.
Clever.

>runs fine on 10 year old hardware
For what you do, maybe. But don't deny there are limitations using 10 year old hardware.

Just because it's all you can afford doesn't mean everyone has to use it.

Do you autists realise that when you use an ugly, low quality and outdated ChinkPad every woman laughs at you? Not to mention the fact that they have shitty performance and bad build quality.

>>58798412
If you actually take old computers seriously I've got bad news for you.

>>58795124
Why not indeed? I'm slowly getting all the gear I need to do this too.

>>58798366
Your shilling isn't effective in here. We all know you're salty that we'd rather buy a ten year old Thinkpad rather than a new Chinkpad, but maybe if you'd come up with something as well-built as Thinkpads were ten years ago, without a shitty keyboard and hardware spyware, we'd buy the chinese shit you're hawking.

>>58798412
>Thinkpad
>ugly
But that's wrong
It's more aesthetic than any Macbook

Yo /g/. I'm rocking Bunsenlabs in my new T430 and sometimes, randomly, the dvd tray opens. It doesn't happen during boot and didn't happen once with Windows 7 Ultimate Edition (which came by default).

Any ideas what logs I can check when that happens?

I bought a MacBook Pro and am terribly underwhelmed. Going to return it for a refund tomorrow. I still need a computer however. I'm going to run Linux on it. How is Linux support for brand new think pads?

Where can I purchase them in person in Canada? I don't have a credit card so I can't buy from eBay used. Also I have OCD and don't want other people's germs.

>>58775076
A T60 is still pretty great. If you get a T61 you can install a penryn and the middleton bios and actually have a pretty comfy machine that performs well, just obviously without capable graphics.

>>58798998
It'll play OpenArena and Tribes 2 just fine anon, what else do you need?

Hey guys, I was told you are the experts. Looking for something around €300 for uni work, and the GPU has to be capable of Dota 2. Should not exceed 15.6".
Best I found so far are T4xx or similar with Quadro NVS5400m, but I think that might be a bit slow for Dota. Are there cheap/good models with faster cards?
Or, if there are not, does someone here have this GPU and can confirm if and how well Dota 2 runs? I can't use older benchmarks because the engine changed a lot.

Are you guys still shilling this malware installing company holy shit delusional fucks