/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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Kaby Lake has been released! Skylake is depreciated if corresponding chips are similarly priced (e.g., i5 7600K vs i5 6600K)!
>Some motherboards will have a one-click, 5GHz on air OC button that works for 80% of i5 7600Ks
>100 series chipsets (Z170, B150, ect) don't work out of the box with Kaby Lake
>Z series chipsets have an "Enhanced Turbo", which allows all cores to run at the highest single core boost clockspeed (works for Skylake CPUs as well)
>Pentiums now have hyperthreading, and are thus the new default budget / entry level gaming CPUs
>Pentium G4560 is the best price / perf four thread CPU on a modern platform
>All Kaby Lake CPUs work natively with 2400MHz DDR4 memory
>Do not underestimate the impact of fast (>2400, e.g, 3000MHz) RAM in conjunction with a Z series chipset, which often provides as much of a performance boost as a CPU overclock

if i want to step into next gen cpus whats my best option? core2 quad loser here

So I'm working on putting together my ultimate aesthetic dream PC but it's kind of a slow process because I don't fully know what I want yet and I'm upgrading as money comes in. My plans are to eventually have a fully modded out system with custom cables, cooling and painted parts.

One problem I'm facing now is I absolutely hate how my MOBO looks but I've been told by many people not to upgrade my MOBO/CPU yet as the advancements are pretty incremental. So I'm trying to get parts to set myself up for an eventual upgrade into better unit, but for the time being I am going to make the best out of what I have.

I just purchased a fully modular PSU, white cablemod set and another 8gb of the same RAM which I intend on painting white. With all that being said I have a few questions here to help guide myself into a better understanding of what I want to do:

- Should I work towards getting another gtx 1070 when the price points drops for the SLI setup?

- What should I be reading to get a better understanding of how to build my own liquid cooling system (or should I just get a corsair CPU closed system)

- Where is the best place to get a backplate for my GPU?

- What should I use to make a cover for the mobo sockets ( top arrow )

- Can I use electric tape to cover the exposed wires ( lower arrow )

- Would getting a soundcard improve the sound quality from my current speakers?

Anyone else have any PC modding tips? Where should I take this build?

MOBO: Asus P8Z77-V LK
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K
GPU: MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (Armor)
RAM: Ripjaws X G.Skill 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
PSU: Corsair RM850X 850W Modular
DRIVES: 111GB OCZ-VERTEX3 (SSD) / 931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH162 (SATA)
COOLING: Hyper 212 Plus CPU
LED: NZXT Hue+
CHASSIS: Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 Cube Case (White)
> Used for Gaming / Editing / Recording

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>>58660095

just because microsoft wont update W7 for kaby lake doesnt mean it wont work right?

>>58660083
> >Pentium G4560 is the best price / perf four thread CPU on a modern platform
I didn't see benchmarks yet, but considering that Q8200 ~ i3 2100 and G4560 ~ i5 2500, well, G4560 seems to be the good choice.

>>58660123
if i'm gonna drop the cash on a new mobo and new ram then why only jump from 2nd gen i3 to 2nd gen i5?

>>58660095
Buying another piece of the same RAM won't 100% ensure optimal dual channel performance.

- SLI performance will always be worse, and games need to be prepared to work in SLI, so I'd always go with a single graphics card

- building a custom loop is a pain in the ass, just get the NZXT Kraken x52 or x62, best AIO to date, you get good performance, and gorgeous eye candy without housing a jet engine in your rig like you would with Corsair

- backplates aren't sold separately as far as I'm aware, they are always sold and meant to be used with waterblocks

- I would have a cover 3D printed that latches onto the rectangular parts of the internal I/O

- I'd use heat shrink tubing, looks neater than electric tape

What are your current speakers?

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hey /g, is this an ok 1080p budget build?
would be my first one and i'm not sure if i should go with kaby- oder skylake.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FYy7yf

germany here btw

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>>58660395
Thank you very much for the reply,

- I bought another pair of the same 8gb dual channel set to put in the other 2 channels on my mobo? is this not how it works? did I fuck up?

- Okay thanks for convincing me not to waste money on the SLI honestly I was only debating it for visual reasons. Is there anything else I can put in my PC to "fill it up"?

- I was checking out the NZXT Kraken actually, I already use the CAM software so it would probably fit nicely. Thanks for the tip ill look into it more

- I just want a backplate to cover the pcb and make it look more sleek, do you think I can buy a plate for a waterblock and just have it sit there not connected to a system?

- Figured 3d printing was the route for this one, I think I can get access to one at the local community college

- Heatsink tubing, seems cheap, solid.

- I'm currently using Bose Companion 20 speakers, Bose Quiet Comfort 15 Noise Cancelling Headphones and I have HyperX's that I rarely use. I was looking at the ASUS Strix Soundcard but I don't want the control unit it comes with and I think it might have compatibility issues with the bose control unit.

Also another question for you, how long do you think I have before I need to start looking at a chipset/mobo upgrade. I know right now all I'm missing is chip, DDR4 and m2 ssd.

I'm sure I have more questions thanks for being so thorough in answering them all helps a noob out a lot.

whats the difference between a 212 evo and a T4 hyper? they look almost identical

>>58660036
>H210

Newfag can't into 200 series chipsets. 4560s are straight titties, though.

>>58660568
Part 1:

There's a reason why they sell dual and quad channel kits. Only those modules are certified to work perfectly with each other.

If you feel like you "need" to fill your PC up, just go for a smaller form factor the next time you buy a different motherboard. I found myself never using any additional slots on my ATX board, so I went ahead and bought a mini ITX. No regrets. You have to decide what and how many slots you need.

I think you could get away with just buying like an EK backplate for your GPU and slap it on your card, even with some thermal adhesive, but I can't vouch for the result. I would refrain from 3D printing this part.

>>58660568
Part 2:

3D printing the internal I/O cover is just the way to go. You could design a cover that has embedded LED lighting if you wanted to. If it's already a custom part, I'd go for it.

If you already have BOSE, I'd go with a USB DAC, gaming audio (Strix) is no good for general purpose (music listening and such), the characteristics just don't match well with anything except gaming and movies. It's specialized hardware.

You can probably get away with using your current mobo for another two, maybe 3 years. I see no benefits of having an M.2 SSD in any home computer, you're fine with just a SATA SSD. I can't see any reason why you'd need to upgrade to DDR4 either. I just made the switch 3 months ago from 1600 MHz DDR3 to 2400 MHz DDR4, but as far as I can tell, my new computer doesn't behave any differently due to the faster RAM. DDR4 modules are faster, but they also have a higher latency.

looking at building a mining rig, pls no bully
Cant really put a pcpp link together for this one though, it doesn't let me put more than 1 gpu on for certain platforms, blah blah
looking at this for a build
cpu - used phenom ii x2
mobo - used am3
ram - some ram i have laying around
hdd - extra one i have from old laptop
psu - used hp server psu with breakout board to power gpu
gpus - used 290, 290x, or new 480s
case - milk crate i stole a while back just sitting around
others - risers, any other dumb things that come up
basically im just looking to shave as much cost as possible, expecially for gpus while still keeping hashrate up. any advice guys?

>>58660547
You could probably go skylake if the price difference is yuge

>>58660547
Looks fine to me

>>58660659
>>58660700
So to clarify you are saying that you cannot put two dual-channel sets into the two different dual channel slots on my board? fuck me man...

I'll take a look at those backplates and ask around some more for some security to make sure it would work.

In regards to designing a cover I actually love this idea, fuckin rights ill put some LEDs in it.

Are there good DACs that are internal? trying to conserve space. This is probably one of my next purchases

Good to hear about the MOBO. I just wish I liked the aesthetic more. I think I'm going to also install a plate on the bottom half to cover the wires and slots I don't use. Any tips for this?

Thanks again man

>>58660803
Watch this video on RAM channels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D8fhsXqq4o

An internal dac is just another way of saying sound card. Sound cards have interference issues, and if we're speaking ASUS, shitty drivers. I'd buy a Xonar Essence STX to minimize these issues.

I'm in a 3D printing craze right now, so I'd 3D print whatever I can, and makes sense to 3D print. I've had a headphone stand, Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro side panels, guitar pick holder, and a crapton of other things 3D printed just the last two weeks. It really is cheaper than buying mass produced retail products if you have access to someone else's 3D printer and only have to pay for materials and the time share.

>>58660935
That video didn't really clarify things fully for me. I Understand its not optimal but my board has 4 RAM slots in dual channel, 2 of each colour. Didn't he just say you could use 2 dual channel sticks in it because the colours correspond? Sorry I'm totally an idiot here I'm just a little disappointed if this won't work efficiently because I literally pulled the trigger on another "Ripjaws X G.Skill 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3"

Also what program would you recommend for beginner 3d design for 3d printing?

>>58661151
Your RAM is fine then.

I use Sketchup.

Is there much difference between an i5-6500 and 6600?

Why do people tend to prefer the 6500?

>>58661263
Better value.

>>58661275
weird

the difference between the two is $25 for me

>>58660048

S 1151 claims to take advantage of the 3000MhZ+ DDR4 RAM not just the Z series

>>58661298
Always depends on local prices but generally 6500 has better value over 6600.
Calculate the % price and MHz differences yourself.

Is it worth going for Kaby lake or would I just be getting jewed?

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Australian prices suck.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/qwgmQV

>>58660036
>On amazon, shopping for new bits for a future PC build.
>Get a nice phantek case with the power supply shroud.
>May as well get my supply.
>Seasonic ofcourse, like everyone is raving on about.
>Wait, I bought a mechanical keyboard and that was shit for what I paid for it, zero difference, what a meme.
>Actually decided to google for power supplies by failure and recall rate 2016.
>Seasonic has one of the highest failure rates over every other brand, no brand is above 3% failure rate, but still.

Beware of memes, boys.

>>58661363
The only Kaby Lake that's really worth it is the G4560.

>>58661480
Yeah, you better buy that no name chinese computer BBQ kit already.

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>/vgcag/
>video game console assembly general

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Just bought the parts for my first build. How bad is it?

>>58661600
>No point going for Kaby Lake if you're not overclocking since that's the only area where it's better than Skylake. Check if the Core i5-6600 is cheaper (hell maybe even the Core i5-6600K will be cheaper).
>Get 2 sticks of RAM for dual-channel. If you can't afford 2x8GB, get 2x4GB.

>>58661600
>get kaby lake
>cheap out on mobo and ram
>no significantly faster RAM performance for merely $40 more invested

>>58661447

I'd get a slightly better mobo.

>>58661659

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wHRbcc

what's the big diff?

Building a new mATX PC, got all the parts except a case.

Can't choose between Corsair 350D and Thermaltake Core V21.
Please help!

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>>58660547
would this be better?

>>58661833
No, it's still shit.

>>58661447
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/JgZKkT

>B-b-but my common sense 2010 Home Edition told me you can't overclock a locked skylake CPU
Update to common sense 2017 Pro edition.

Can you use a 2.5 inch HDD in a mATX build or will the performance be worse compared to a 3.5 inch? Going to have one SSD boot drive and one internal drive.

>>58662015
Size of the drive does not determine speed of the hdd drive.

RPM + Cache + HDD model does.

>>58662029
2.5 inchers spin up quick tho

>>58662029
Historically 2.5" HDDs are slower than 3.5" due to having slower rotation speeds. These days HDDs are only useful for long-term storage anyway so I imagine the difference is minimal now.

My local store is having a sale on the XFX RX 480 for cheaper than the 470, XFX is the way to go for 480's, right?

>>58662232
And also, why do stores sell worse cards with more VRAM for more than better cards with lower VRAM? Are there any situations where you're better off getting a 8GB 470 over a 4GB 480?

>>58660048
I'm going to flash my gigabyte to install kaby lake this afternoon

how do you neet fucks get the funds for this shit?

>>58662293
Mainly by not being a NEET

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Newfag here. How does OP's 1080p build (left) compare to pcpartpicker's recommended Excellent Build (right)? It's not a matter of money I would be willing to spend up to $1500. Just want to know if it's worth it. Also, if it is worth it, can anyone recommend me a $1500 dollar build?

Anybody has some experience with this case ?

https://www.quietpc.com/mono-aio

Im thinking about putting rx 470/1060 3GB both cost the same here and Pentium g4560 in it.

>>58662528
Right is retarded, left needs improvement, i wouldn't get either of those builds as is.

>>58662752
well any recommendations?

>>58662767
Take the left as template and improve it.

>>58662857
what's better about left? what should be improved? more RAM? better GPU? better CPU?

>>58661480
It makes sense as 80% of the PSU market is all seasonic anyways

I want to make a server.
>I have an extra graphics card that i could put in it and use it for PC game streaming
>id like to use it as a remote filesystem
>would it be possible to use it as a vpn/gateway for all of my internet traffic
>id throw a couple TB HDDs in it
Should i buy an old used tower for this purpose?
What server should i run on it? Linux or Windows?

>>58662260
Running out of VRAM is bad, so if you know you're going to be doing things that require more than 4 GB of VRAM(like crossfire), it might be worthwhile to get a weaker card with more VRAM. Generally(well, for gaming at least) it's better to save money and get the version with normal amount of VRAM(or the better card, in this case), since by the time you run out of VRAM the GPU itself will already be insufficient(although there are exceptions, like 1060).

>>58663587
Just turn multisampling down its not that hard
Even the most powerful of games today rarely use over 4GB VRAM at max resolution and settings, and VRAM tends to be easy to lighten the load on through settibgs

>>58661796
350D is huge, I have one and it's barely smaller than a typical mid tower ATX case. Tonnes of room for cooling if that's what you're after though.

>>58660036
Gigabyte gaming 5?

Looks like the best choice around

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wanted to stick with a sub-$2500 build to do 1440p at 70-90 fps on any game

what else do i get now?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LLcjbj

>>58663979

you'd probably need a keyboard

why i7?

>>58663979
>(Purchased)
>what else do i get now?
Considering the money you spent on the mobo and CPU, you should have spent a little more and gotten a gtx 1070, it's a bit late for that now.

>>58664017

that motherboard is pretty cool though

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>>58663994
>tfw part of the i7 master race

Oh yeah I already have all the parts. I bought most of this on black Friday. I do have a keyboard but I'm in the market for a mechanical one.

i7 because I run a VM from windows to do programming and I don't want to buy a new CPU for 5 years. Also do some meme video editing on occasion.

>>58664017
Honestly I couldn't find a good relatively mono coloured motherboard that had VGA output on it. Everything else has some sort of colours. I turned off the RGB it was annoying.

I don't want a 1070. Way too expensive. It wouldn't be a 'little more' it would be straight up $350 more because of leaf tax. That is not worth it in my eyes. I'm enjoying freesync too now. Maybe I'll upgrade with Vega X.

>>58664087

>posts pepe memes

fuck it, not helping you

>>58664087
>i7 master race
Dual core 2.3GHz turbo reporting in

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>>58664111
Suit yourself anon. Sorry for triggering your meme PTSD

reposting from the older thread:

If I want a cool, low-powered CPU, why should I buy the i7-7700T (35W) instead of buying the regular i7-7700 (65W) and underclocking it so it runs at 35W too? I don't understand

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I got all the parts except the case and psu. (Which is currently a Raidmax Comet case that came with a 385watt psu) Should I get a different motherboard because of the faluty temperature sensor? The bios displays the right temp. I want to upgrade the psu too, but not sure which one to get? I also want to put either a 1050 TI or an RX 470. Thoughts?

>>58664217
Because there's no guarantee that the regular 7700 will be able to reach the same clocks at 35W as 7700T does. And the price difference is negligible anyway.

>>58664289
>that monitor resolution
im so sorry anon.

Go for the 470 it will be great for you. I don't think you have to change mobo just because of a faulty sensor. Only reason to get a new mobo is if it just stops working.

>>58660108
Hard to install. Your best bet is to use Kaby on a flashed 100 series chipset

>>58660547
Get 2400MHz RAM

>>58660609
Noted, thanks

>>58660725
You need a dedicated ASIC AFAIK. The days of gfx card mining are over

>>58661263
Very close perf for slightly cheaper

>>58661363
Depends on prices, but worth it because of 2400MHz RAM or hyper threaded Pentiums

>>58662528
If you want to spend money, get a 1440p Gsync 144Hz monitor for the 7600K + 1070 build.

>>58663095
For games it's already really good. Like My previous post said, get a nice display.

>>58664289
470

>>58664359
damn, I'm an idiot
thanks

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>>58664289
RX 470 has a clear great lead over the 1050 Ti, but it might be a tad overkill with that resolution. If the RX 470 cost too much compared to the 1050 Ti then go for the 1050 Ti, but if they're close in prices (~$25) then go for the RX 470.

>>58663951
Expensive, but the best assortment ITT. EVGAs run hot though.

>>58661983

nah I'm good

>mobo I want dropped 40€ in the span of two weeks

s-should I wait even longer

>>58664653
Prob not

there's a $150 480 after rebate on newegg

>>58664653
buy or you will regret it

>>58664653
NO BUY NOW. I made the fucking mistake of waiting for the G4560 to drop a few bucks and now they all sold out and wont restock till mid February

>>58665219
Link?

>>58665219
I only saw the 4gb for $154 after rebate
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137049&cm_re=rx_480-_-14-137-049-_-Product

>>58665228
>>58665230
the g4560 became very very popular all over the internet though, it was predictable that they would sell out quickly and that stores would take advantage of the popularity by raising prices

I'm looking at the Asrock Z270 Gaming-ITX, which seems a little bit more niche than the g4560. It's an ITX board, it's assrock and it's high-end. Not to mention it hasn't been released in the US yet
When it first became available on the Spanish Amazon it was 265€, now it's down to 211 on some sellers

Amazon US had it for pre-order for 180$ but have since removed the product page altogether

Any good deals on the 8gb rx480?

I have an i5 4590, when will it start to bottleneck me in games?

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https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA

How did I do /g/? I know it's a prebuilt but if you add all the parts it comes close to 800$. Plus I got a discount for being an employee and I got the refurbished one so It ended up only costing 600$ There was another one for 500$ but it doesn't ship till February

>>58664289
Seems to be a probably with a lot asus mobos if you google it. Mine works fine but my brothers reads the same thing as yours and its new.

>>58665701
>How did I do
>When you didn't do anything
Yes

>>58665773
semantics aside is it a good find?

I need the meme-est case possible for a Reddit-addicted client. What case should I choose and how can I ruin it?
Built-in keylogger is out of the question.

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Can I get some recommendations for a case and mobo? I don't want to spend a lot so I want to get the most for my money's worth. Besides that, how is it?

Additional notes:
Getting the i7 for 200 from a friend.
The PSU, Storage, and memory are all placeholders so my list doesn't look too barren, so don't hate.

>>58660036

Building a super basic $500 comp for my dad. Which Intel chipset should I go with?

>>58665859
How basic? Because you could get a motherboard with no chipset at all.

>>58665701
>no SSD
>dodgy processor
Ehh, it's probably not a horrible purhase but I'd still skip it.

>>58665859
NUC

the go-to "parents' build" should always be a NUC or similar alternatives

>>58665875
>dodgy processor
It's not that dodgy, it's just the i5-6400 with half of the EU in its iGPU and a slightly bumped up stock and turbo frequency. It overclocks better than the 6400 because of it.

>>58665875
Whats wrong with the processor? Yeah the SSD sucks but there was a 40$ 120gb SSd around here somewhere

>>58665896
>Whats wrong with the processor?
Nothing. It's not great, but there's nothing wrong with it.

>>58665859
>>58665887

I'm just going for a no-frills build with an i3-6100, 8 GB of RAM, 1 TB HDD, and a disc drive (so no NUC, though I suppose I could get an external drive). I'm thinking either a H170 or H110 chipset, or maybe even a B150.

I think my real question is probably if a H110 is sufficient for a dad-comp, even if it's the lowest grade consumer chipset, though it's my understanding that even a basic business chipset like B150 is applicable.

>>58665959

meant to reply to >>58665873 instead of my own post

>>58665959
You could get him something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yk7BxY

>>58665959
h110 is fine as long as you only need basic 2ch audio and an igp or single gpu

use a single dimm ram so there is expansion capability though.

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>>58665950
Thanks. But honestly my other choice was an i3 since the Intel g4560 was sold out so I might as well sell my old comp and just buy this since it will end up costing me around 300$ to upgrade it anyway. This 560ti craped out on me and I'm out a computer. This motherboard also can't take anything bigger than the 560 anyway.

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This is what I'm working with. Budget is around $1500, but I still need to buy a monitor. Mainly for gaming. Any swap suggestions?

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Should i use liquid metal instead of normal Thermal Compound for my 6950x? I want to use watercooling and there is already thermal compund on the waterpump.

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did anyone else's first build boot on first try? it's been a couple weeks and i'm still waiting for something to break. nothing is this easy.

pic related btw. i dont really know how to keep my GPU temp down. cpu is OC'd to 4.4ghz with overclock genie.

>>58665895
You can't OC with locked motherboards.

If you plan on getting z170 mobo to overclock, why even bother with prebuilt?

>>58666164
cpu temp in that image is a bit higher than it usually is on idle btw. right now (and generally) it stays around 27

>>58666116
>there is already thermal compound on the waterpump
>on the waterpump

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>>58666164

nice specs

mine fired up but didn't boot. it took some research to find out that the cruzer usb stick for my .iso had to be wiped and re-partioned to be useful.

and what case and cooler do you have? your airflow might be creating a warm pocket around your GPU

>>58666068

>Windows 10 Pro
>buying Windows

>>58666283
my case is the corsair 200R. it's definitely a bit small. and has fewer ventilation windows than I'd like.

as for the cooler.... i am not currently using a cooler for my GPU if that's what you're asking?

my cpu is cooled with a corsair H60 though, and I havent seen it go past 70c at high load with prime95

>>58666068
>>58666314

>Kaby
>Z170 mobo

>>58666229
Yeah
It is the corsair 110i
It's a ready to use set but someone told me to replace the thermal compound with a better one...

>>58666325

are you running dual fans on top to evacuate air?

in the research i've been doing, a side effect of using a liquid cooler is that you're blocking a vent to get air out for the GPU and motherboard while air coolers accelerate the flow, especially in smaller cases.

>>58666335
So what? Just ask 'em to flash the newest BIOS.

>>58666365
i've been using all my fans blowing into the case, not out.

i tried to fit a second fan on the top, but the cable wasn't long enough (only other sys fan port on my mobo was on the bottom, under the gpu)

>>58666379

don't forget to ask for a fire extinguisher

>>58666380

that's probably why. all that air accumulates and just gathers heat faster than it can be released. especially since that radiator is filled with warm liquid, so that's residual heat from your CPU pulled into your case.

I don't know how you'd like to solve it, but that's why your GPU is so warm.

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>>58666396
>don't forget to ask for a fire extinguisher
>fire extinguisher
Good luck m8.

>>58666409
alright thanks. I haven't seen my GPU above 75 yet (which has only happened playing killing floor 2 on ultra), so I won't sweat it for now.

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>>58666409

how many fans are you running? this could help you evacuate the warm air.

>>58666413

kek

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>>58666335
There

>>58666504

Do you overclock much?

>>58666504
>look at me here i picked a random mobo because it glows in the dark

>>58666504

that mboo is trash - in fact this whole build is

>>58666537
I do not.
>>58666560
Pretty much.
>>58666589
Perhaps you have a suggestion then?

v

>>58665849
H....Hi

Bump

>>58666613
>paying overclock tax
>won't overclock
Literally retarded

>>58666613
>I do not

then you don't need K processors or Z170 mobos

>>58665435
>He didn't get $5 off any computer component over $100

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>>58666164
Turn the fan curve up you nub
This is the "turbo" fan setting after a few hours of gay men

>>58666417
Just turn a fan around you baka
Why did you think 100% intake fans was a good idea?

>>58666613

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JDsfD8

Don't pay for Windows. Especially fucking Windows 10.

>>58666504

yeah you might want to do some research on that.

you picked an ATX build, which is fine but unnecessary if you're not going to run two GPUs. but you're not going to run two GPUs because you picked a motherboard that can't run SLI, which means if you put another GTX1070 in there, it would be effectively useless.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jV9Lf8

that's what i would do. unless you just want to change out the motherboard to keep it in line with future tech

Why is the Asus VG248QE monitor so insanely popular?

>>58666703

what case, cooler, fan setup do you run?

>>58666759
>Spending $104 for 2x8GB stock speed ram just because it has/doesnthave heat spreader
What the fuck
I got my gaymen red spikey gskill ram, 2x8GB for $67, and 3000mhz at that

>>58666721
>1 intake fan
>1 output fan
>0 air pressure therefore 0 cooling

is this post bait?

>>58666815


play around

I literally just rushed with the ram

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>>58666804
N200 case, basically just a cheap black box
Gigabyte Windforce OC 1070, basically the cheapest on-brand 1070 I could find
And I have two intakes in the front, and two exhausts in the back/top. The side panel also has vent holes near the GPU but it's against a wall so it's not really helping anything

>>58666815
Ram prices have gone up dramatically in the last few months

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TTf4JV
r8 h8 masturb8. need advice on this before i go ahead and start ordering parts

>>58666942
I choose to masturb8

>>58666875

>air cooler, intakes, more fans

that's why your GPU runs cooler

>>58666815

ram prices have spiked recently

>>58666942
Meme the build - retard edition.

>>58666782
>a motherboard that can't SLI
Any motherboard with two full size PCIe slots can SLI, it's the PCIe rating that determines the bus speed, which at the moment doesn't even matter past PCIe 2.0 x8, but considering the tomahawk has 2 PCIe 3.0 x16 slots, I'm sure it can SLI, even if it doesn't say SLI in big easy to read letters for you
Not that you should ever want to SLI but it's clearly an option on that motherboard

>>58666834
>0 air pressure therefore 0 cooling
If you were planning to use the computer in vacuum, I can assure you that it won't matter what the fan arrangement is.

>>58666960
Yeah I told him not to do 100% intake but he won't listen
He'll figure it out in the summer when his GPU actually breaks
But I mean he doesn't even know what a GPU cooler is so I doubt he's gonna get very great temps anyways

>>58667007
>Any motherboard with two full size PCIe slots can SLI
You can go ahead and stop fucking posting now. Please don't try to advise people on shit you clearly don't understand.

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Bs7BxY

1080/60hz gaymen - no overclocking whatsoever. No interest in newer tech yet. Gonna stick with this PC for about 3-4 years before I build a PC that exceeds $2k.

>>58667012

you know how it feels nice to sit in front of a fan on a warm day? same for a processor. the fan is blowing air over your body, removing the heat that you're giving off and allowing your body to cool down.

that's how air-cooled CPU coolers work. all that metal heats up and the air washes away the warmth for a case fan to evacuate.

>>58665718
Ya my cousin bought the Asus z170 Pro gaming mb and it reads the temps correctly.

>>58667075
The joke
-
-
-
-
Your head

>>58667036

replace the i5-6600 with a 6500 as there really isn't a difference in performance

the psu is questionable but I know the psu situation down under is pretty fucked

other than that it's fine

>>58666960
He's using a 200R, I've used that before, it has plenty of airflow, not so much in the front intake but especially a lot on the top for exhaust
The EVGA card he's using is supposed to have some of the best coolers this generation (aside from the VRM thing), and I doubt my $380 card has a better cooler
Fans might be the help here but videos online show that anything more than 1 intake and 1 exhaust tend to give diminishing returns, and those red corsair exhausts aren't really impressive fans at all
I mean maybe he's doing something wrong or I'm missing something special I'm doing, but I really doubt my specific brands of the same hardware are the reason I have decent temps and his is hot

>>58666960
>air cooler
How does this make the GPU cooler? It just heats up the big metal heatsink right next to the CPU instead of a radiator seperated far away from the GPU area?

So I'm building my first PC soon and I was wondering if I should OC it. Because it basically comes down to a cheaper CPU or a more expensive one that I can OC.

>>58666782
He never said he wanted to SLI and he shouldnt

>>58667116
>replace the i5-6600 with a 6500 as there really isn't a difference in performance

well I guess I'm saving $25 then

>the psu is questionable but I know the psu situation down under is pretty fucked

It's the only decent semi-modular for that price I'm afraid

>>58667238

the psu is fine then

also get this video card instead, you'll be saving about $40

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/7RKhP6/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-windforce-oc-6g-video-card-gv-n1060wf2oc-6gd

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMv49W

Any way I can cut this price down by about $100 to $200? Looking for a $800 desktop price range. Was unsure if I should overclock it as well since its my first build.

can I expect an AMD card to challenge the 1070 to be released this year? Or is Vega just gonna challenge the 1080? No 490?

>>58667747
Vega isn't "AMD's competitor" until AMD says so or throws a price out. According to the doom test its somewhere between a 1070 and 1080 in doom at the moment. The 490 will not be vega, but it could likely be a crossfire Polaris card. Im sure they'll cut down vega chips to create different products and pricing brackets but that will probably be after the initial release of full-power vega

>>58667785

Ok, I'm just curious cause AMD doesn't seem to have a 1440p specific card like the 1070 at the moment which is what I'm looking for and don't want to buy a 1070 if a competitor comes out that might be more worth it.

>>58667586
Lose the ssd, 3gb 1060, cheaper keyboard.

>>58667831
The Fury X is only slightly worse than the 1070
And I mean if you want 1070 performance now just get a 1070, I doubt Vega's first wave of products will be under $380 (the price I got my 1070 for)

>>58667180
It's free performance. If you can there's no point not to.

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>>58667889
>a more expensive one I can OC
>free performance

>>58667586

No point overclocking if you're trying to save money. Also no point doing so with a 1060.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yQtdvV

If I'm gonna OC a 6600K should I get that corsair $100 liquid cooler or is an EVO fine?

asking cause money might not be an issue here.

>>58667398

How is this?


https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/VBN7yf

best €200~ or less GPU for an a10 7850k (I didn't intend on gaming on this rig at the start, hence apu)
I dont want to do dual graphics, I just want to know a good pairing with no bottlenecks

>>58668172
Probably RX470 4G, but not sure.

>>58668232
>RX470
I'm re using an old VX450w, so It'd have to be a 6 pin

>>58668249
GTX1060 or 1050Ti then, RX460 is too weak imo. You should also consider getting some other PSU, Corsair VS is blowing (up) chinkshit.

I want to upgrade my GPU and monitor for around $300-$350ish, currently have:
>20" 900p monitor
>r7 360 2GB

Within that range for both, what is recommended?

>>58668284
really ?, I've had this since the c2d era, with my oc'd e6750 lol, it's been well kept.
I suppose I should, any recommendations ?

I am the bsod guy from the last thread

Issue still continues and it has escalated

Now I even get a guaranteed bsod during a clean usb install, just after the first reset. Assuming the machine spirit blessed my usb and windows actuality finds the driver. Which has a 50% chance

Which indicates faulty ram but. Rams cleared 2 passes from memtest. And it riddles me to have such frequent bsods. Also tested with both and single stick configurations.

And all of this happening on a 5 day old brand new rig.

At this point I feel like my only option is to should repent for my sins for whichever god decided to fuck with me.

I am out of ideas. Help

>>58668344
Are you trying to use win7 on skylake?
Suck it up and use 10

>>58668320
EVGA 500/600B or EVGA G2/3 550/650, usually the best choice in US.

>>58668384
No wei that's the Seasonic MKII 520w for $60

>>58668376
Win 10, but I didnt know that

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Getting ready to build my first pc tonight bois.
I don't have any concerns about fitting all the hardware together, but idk what's gonna happen when I first turn it on. idk anything about BIOS and all the guides I find are from 2008. Halp pls.

>>58668401
You're having OS installation issues right? Windows hasn't fully installed on your computer yet? Try making a new bootable USB

>>58668403
you should be able to figure it out easily with modern bioses

>>58668344
Are you sure the USB stick is working correctly and the image isn't corrupted? Those would probably be the easiest things to check.

>>58668396
But EVGA 500B costs like $49..

>>58668430
So it's going to be pretty self explanatory? I'm not retarded, but I've only used a Mac I won from work in 2010. So maybe retarded.

>>58668414
Done that brand new setup has no driver issues but it gives a bsod after first restart.

Another odd thing I noticed was this.
Windows format hdd selection
I format the ssd

If windows creates only one extra utiliy partition setup rolls back after it is done and then the partition shows up as incompatible
I re format the hdd to have 3 win reserved partions then setup actually complete itself.

And I tried os install on both new ssd and the hdd

Same results

>>58668472
Have you already tried unplugging the harddrive before attempting to install anything?

>>58668472
Has it installed the proper partitions on the drive?
If so, have you tried booting it up without the USB?
Does your bios have the SSD selected as the boot drive (at first it'll be the USB drive but that should change after the partitions are on there)

>>58668431
usb stick is also new, and tried with 2 old sticks

Tried the usb 2.0 3.0 too

Every thing besides the case is fresh

>>58668436
I was looking up what exact model and brand that PSU comes from (because EVGA doesn't make PSUs) and I found this. The seasonic I mentioned is one of the cheapest ones that this website has found to have good power delivery, apparently they don't like the 500B
http://www.overclock.net/t/1500086/why-you-should-not-buy-an-evga-400-600-and-500b-600b

www.pcpartpicker.com/list/dvs8zM
R8

>>58668455
modern bioses have a proper gui

>>58668512
That's because you're asking for an OCers opinion m8. No sane person would use a 500B or any budget PSU for serious overclocking, that's what EVGA G2/3 are for.
If it's about a PSU for a budget build the EVGA 500B offer great value, see: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=351

>>58668514
Add a SSD, maybe get better mobo and cheaper case plus maybe an extra case fan, but other than that it's good.

>>58668488
Nope. What would that accomplish?

>>58668495
I let the boot usb handle that delele then reform the memory
Since it fails the setup i get botched up troubleshooting options which all fail
Boot order is a good point though

>>58668565
no

>>58668109

better

>>58668565
That link came from tomshardware, that's what I thought I was looking at, I'm sure there's an opinion of the 500B somewhere on that site tho

>>58668580
Enjoy your lackluster build then.

>>58668602
For normal budget builds just get the 500B.

Any amendments?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hwVP9W

>>58668647
No get a Seasonic MKii
Is mo bettah

I have 2x8gb ram but 4 slots, how do I install them? Same colored slots closest from the cpu?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/patboy19/saved/N88bvK

My question is the Z170A motherboard compatible with a i5 7600 Kaby Lake?

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Is there anything better than AOC i2369Vm with 2 HDMIs and IPS for 150$?

I've never heard of this company before, but I see a lot of their monitors. Is this some cheap knockoff?

>>58668973
yes with bios update

>>58668973
Only after a BIOS update, some retailers offer this as a service.

>>58668973

Yes but prepare for extreme heat.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817182294

This is my power supply, I bought it 2 years ago. Am I boned?

>>58669040
>>58669054
Awesome. If I'm ordering from newegg will they update for me? I could do it myself but would rather avoid it if I don't need to do it.

>>58669073
Even with an AIO cooler?

>>58669087
no, why? as long as it works you're golden

>>58668647
There's things called budgets, i3 is shit , 120 GB is not worth it. 1tb is best, die dirty fat. 4channer

>>58669108
No idea, i'm from EU, isn't newegg something like Amazon? If so they probably won't offer such a service.

>>58669148
>getting triggered over constructive criticism
>being such a whiny pussy
>>>/tumblr/ you autistic faggot.

>falling for the GPU meme
>not playing only 5+ year old games and overclocking your internal graphics so you enjoy a solid 30-60fps at 1080p

>>58669220
My gtx 570 is still going strong

>>58669164

Its like amazon for computer parts

>>58669191
Truly a dirty 4channrr

>>58660036
>7 fans

Has this guy ever heard of this thing called air conditioning? If they can afford to buy a GPU farm, then surely they can afford to keep 2 A/C's running at max power.

>>58669546
it's imageboardian fag, get it right

I recently built a computer, I don't have a dedicated GPU so for now I'm trying to use the IGPU. However everytime I start a 3D intensive application that is NOT limited to 30fps my computer shuts down and reboots immediately; no explanation at all and I can't really tell what the problem is. The computer can run fine while I'm not playing a game and it can also run fine while I'm playing a game that's limited to 30fps; It's so bizarre, I've tested this multiple times with Overwatch, I go into the settings, I can move around any settings but if I try to change the fps limit from 30 to "Display Based" computer reboots as soon as I press the "apply" button. It's not only that but when I choose the "Custom" limit option, even if choose 30fps, PC will also reboot!

Again, I have absolutely no clue what's going on and it's really annoying me, even running CPU benchmarks will crash it once it reaches the graphics test it reboots my PC since the fps is not limited.

Furthermore, the Speccy program says the integrated graphics have a clock of 0 mhz, though sometimes it flickers to 449mhz and then it goes back to 0.

I doubt this to be a PSU issue given that this only happens when the fps are not limited to 30, which is a rather peculiar peeve; however I haven't tested it with another PSU and I'm going to be replacing the current one once I get a dedicated GPU.

Finally, could it be the drivers? The KabyLake just came out, could it be this is a driver issue Intel hasn't solved?

Here is my system:
*Windows 10 x64 LTSB
* Intel Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor
* MSI B150 PC Mate ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
* Kingston FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
* Toshiba 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
* Generic Raidmax 500W Power Supply

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>>58669546
Truly a retarded faggot.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9tKQhq

So I have this HSF sitting around, and decided to use it to cool this mobo/cpu combo down and I hear they overheat.

If I get this bios worked on, and use Win 7, do you guys think things will work out?

>>58669676
A/C is bad for computers nigger

>>58670094
Mobo will require a BIOS update to use Kaby Lake, see to it or get a B250 mobo, shouldn't be much more expensive.
>use Win 7
Not going to happen, Win 7 is not supported on Kaby Lake anymore.

>>58666759
This build, except with an i5-7600 instead of an i5-7500, and 3000MHz ram.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cBWLf8

>>58668109
Get something like this instead.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/d6dP9W
It's cheaper than your original list (>>58667036), and better.

>>58670161

Shit. I'll just use a skylake then.

>>58670161

>CPU not supported by an OS

lolwut

>>58670447

Don't listen to that dope.

>>58670094
don't buy the ram individually

>>58670471

I already have it actually.

>>58666116
Use rubbing alcohol (preferably 90%, but 70% will work as well) and cotton swabs followed by coffee filters to clean away the pre-applied thermal compound and then apply your own.

Avoid using silver-based thermal compound (ie. Arctic Silver 5), as carbon-based compounds (ie. IC Diamond) work up to 5x better for around the same price and don't need to cure after application.

For application guidance, refer to this link:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/methods.html
(while Arctic Silver is no longer the recommended compound, their application guides are top-notch)

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Trying to avoid UEFI here.

Where have all the AM2 era boards gone..? AM1 check. AM3 etc all day. AM2+ conspicuously missing??

>>58670833
>Trying to avoid UEFI here.
Good fucking luck.

would I be able to watch porn in 4k at 60fps with a single RX 480? building a desktop for audio production and porn. no gaming really. plan on doing 3 monitor setup. any advice would be appreciated.

>>58670468

You're retard.

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plz don't rape my ass but how is this for a 3 generation xbox player getting his first pc?

>>58671220
Pretty solid. Good job! I especially like the fact, that you didn't go for a fucking unnecessary 750W PSU like all these retards do by default.

>>58671220
It's pretty good, just a couple of things.
>3TB HDDs tend to have a higher failure rate then 2TB and 1TB ones
>Get a better cooler (i.e. Noctua) for heavy overclocking, as higher overclocking = better

>>58671275

I disagree.

The 212 EVO manages overclocking just fine, and Toshiba has the second lowest all around failure rate on the market, so I don't think that is an issue either.

The hard drive needs to be surface tested before actual use and that's it, once that checks out, it's ready to be used for years to come.

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how dumb would it be to reuse my rosewill capstone 450w for my zen build

Thinking about getting a Rx 470 to get started because I don't need that much gayman power I'm a digital artist and it would only bump my wattage up by 5 from my existing r7 260x

The PSU is 80+ gold btw

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>>58671241
>>58671275
h-hows that?

>>58671343
>The 212 EVO manages overclocking just fine
I know, but what I'm saying is that if you want a better overclock, you should go with Noctua.
>Toshiba has the second lowest all around failure rate on the market
I know, but it's been shown that 3TB hard drives in general fail a lot.
>>58671382
Looks fine anon.
Just get a Hitachi 2TB hard drive, as Hitachi is know to be the most reliable brand of hard drives, with Seagate generally being the least reliable.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b7tyQV

>>58671382
I don't like that you switched to Seagate, go either with Hitachi (HGST) or Toshiba. The D-14 is a good upgrade from the EVO if you can afford it.

I'd like to note I have two 3TB WD REDs that have a very bad reputation, because they drop like flies all over, but I never had any issues with them for years, because I made a thorough test before using them. So saying that 3TB drives fail more often so don't buy one is just simple paranoia.

>>58670116
I've had my A/C on during the entire summer and got my temps to around 18C. Nothing bad has happened.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xzDFHN

anyone? i think i've gotten this pretty much perfect

>>58671501
>LED RAM
>Seagate HDD
Switch the Seagate out for a Hitachi and get some non-LED RAM and it'll be fine.

>pcpartpicker STILL doesn't have half of my build's components

>>58671501
>buys chroma mouse
>doesn't buy any other chroma peripherals
FYI chroma - a feature that synchronizes RGB lighting across devices

>dark rock 3
>GTX1080 housefire edition

I could go all day, this list looks very haphazardly put together.

Is a Sapphire 460 enough to get steady 60fps at 1080p? Probably not max settings but at least mid-high.

I have an old i7 2700 and also have to swap the PSU to not fry everything.

>>58671571
>Seller Information: Just Launched

no thanks I'm good

>>58671585
damn it does look like a scam doesn't it?

>>58671571
this >>58671585
>>58671565
It will be, but for newer games you will probably have to go with medium settings.

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>>58671526

there's nothing objectively wrong with LED RAM

but you're right about hitachi.

>>58671483
>>58671446
Final build? I'll by it right now I swear.

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>>58671613
sorry forgot pick
>>58671446
>>58671483

>>58671626
Go for it. Flawless.

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>>58671607
>blackblazeharddrivefailurrate.jpg
>blackblaze
In all seriousness, LED RAM looks ugly (my opinion) and generally costs more than non-LED RAM.
>>58671626
I have no improvements. Looks perfect anon.

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>>58671469
>>58671469
>>58671469
Realistically what kind of gaming am I looking at when I buy this?

>>58671561

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gqmxFT/logitech-keyboard-g810
>Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard
>RGB

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181.html
>VERDICT
>The Dark Rock Pro 3 offers an excellent mix of cooling and noise, its better overall performance pushing value parity to less expensive Big Air rivals.
compared to Noctua coolers

BUT
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/be_quiet_dark_rock_3/5.html

Dark Rock 3 consistently put down lower numbers than the Pro 3 and costs over $20 less and is smaller

and as far as the GTX1080 housefire, this case will have 6 fans in it, i don't expect to ever see 70 degrees celsius.

this build was actually very well researched. i think your post was very haphazardly put together, fuckass

i oc'd my core2 quad from 2.33 to 2.79 but any further than that makes my pc shit itself and not turn on unless i take the cmos battery out, is that a problem with the cpu power delivery?

>>58671655
Chroma is an RGB SYNCHRONIZATION feature that works only with OTHER CHROMA devices! It won't do JACK SHIT with logitech! Why invest in a feature you won't fucking use?!

You know what? Buy your illogical piece of shit assortment, I don't care.

>>58671633
>>58671640
thanks. really appreciate it. buying now.

>>58671648
poorfag tier

>>58671694

why would it matter if it synchronizes? all i want is the ability to change the color and the 12 key on the side

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About to pull the trigger on this, call me an idiot if I fucked anything up?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/YdK22R

>Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
>CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler
>Gigabyte GA-Z170N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard
>Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
>Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
>Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
>Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
>Silverstone FTZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case
>Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply
>Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan x 3

I've checked all the clearances and measurements, everything in this should fit together nicely.

Noctua fans will be sucking air right to the GPU which should help keep the temps down in that chamber (it's one of those console sized cases with the GPU separated off from the rest of the components).

Third fan goes above the CPU cooler, although I'm kind of on the fence on that one; is having two fans so close really going to help much with thermals?

>>58671716
Would it still be able to play games though? rx470 is suppose to be above PS4 tier from what I've read.

>>58671735
Oh, and the aim is 1440p gaming and Photoshop stuff. Nothing too intense, but money isn't really an issue for me right now (spending inheritance money), but I'd rather not go too overkill.

>>58661643
What's a good, cheap Kaby Lake mobo if you're not overclocking?

>>58671694

so what do you have to say about the dark rock 3?

c'mon, i'm up for suggestions

>>58671743
mate anything released post-2013 is above the ps4

Best motherboard for a I5-4690? (Friend is giving me his old cpu, (he would of also given me his old motherboard but it's faulty) I have a cheap raidmax case, some cosair 1600 ddr 3 ram that hes also giving me, and i also need to buy a psu. I already have a hdd and ssd. Any recommendations? I plan on getting a RX 470 or similar gpu in the future.

>>58671818
the cheapest mobo up for sale at whatever place you're ordering from with all the features you need

read the reviews

>>58671735
just go for kaby lake. I'd reccomend a zotac card, and something other than the c7

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TwMQhq

Good balance struck for $1K budget gaming build? I want something small and quiet to keep on the desk (out the way of toddler hands). Already have drives and peripherals.

>>58671735
>>58671925
yeah there's no reason to pick a skylake
get a z270 mobo while you're at it

>>58671902
But anon said a B250 was cheaping out. I was looking at the B250 because i'm on a tight budget. Do you know any good review sites? I've only really checked out Tomshardware.

>>58671925
>>58671960
I totally blanked on Kaby Lake, is it really worth the extra cost? I put this list together before it came out but the performance increase doesn't look incredible.

Why the Zotac, by the way? Is the Strix bad, or just overpriced?

>>58671925
>something other than the c7
At this size, what? The Noctua equivalent isn't rated for high TDP processors, and the Silverstone one isn't avaliable at the retailer I use (I could go elsewhere but it'd cost me in shipping).

>>58671979
>extra cost
not sure how it is in kangaroo-land but at least where I'm from they cost pretty much the same, it's maybe a 10€ difference
It's worth it if it's the same over there

Also, I'm not the one who recommended Zotac but those guys are famous for their small form pcs, so I'd assume temperatures would probably be better. Just guessing though

>>58672027
Yeah turns out I'm an idiot, they're literally the same price. Forces me to get a pricier mobo (the only Z270 mobo in ITX is a ~pro gamer~ one) but it's not drastically more expensive.

Thanks anon.

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I'm ~$150 over budget. Any ideas on how I can trim this down?

I'm considering dropping the 1060 for now and keeping my 2gb 750 Ti from my current rig if I can't get the cost of other components down. This build needs to last me for at least the next 5 years.

>>58672103
Just pirate windows and get a cheaper ssd?

huhh...guys

I was looking at my amazon history and just found out that there was a RAM stick I ordered in 2014 which I returned that says:

"Return requested
You have requested a return with a seller. If you haven’t heard from the seller within 2 business days, you may file a claim."

does this mean I did not get my money back? I honestly can't remember and my bank account's previous activity only works for the previous 18 months

what do I do?

>>58672126
>pirate windows
I would have no idea where to start and it sounds like a hassle with updates.

What SSD would you recommend? I was looking at the SK Hynix which I read is comparable to Samsung Evo, but Samsung was only $15 more (on sale).

>>58672162
>I would have no idea where to start and it sounds like a hassle with updates.
Its way easier than you think.

>>58672162
SK Hynix is an OEM for almost a quarter of the NAND chips used in SSDs, RAM, VRAM, and flash drives. They're basically like Samsung since they purchased a producer of silicon used for flash controllers and use it in their products. The only thing that sucks about SK Hynix is that they don't offer a 5-year warranty on their drives, only a 3-year, so that extra $18 might be worth it.

>>58672162
All you have to do is download Windows 10 straight from Microsoft, install it, and then install Windows Toolkit 2.6
It is the easiest thing ever.

>>58671964
If you already bought the parts then it should be fine anon

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QzMYbj

what do you guys think of this build?

PRIDE ;)

>>58672266
Thanks, i'll consider it. If Hynix doesn't go on sale soon, i'll just grab Samsung.

>>58672287
How do you download Windows 10 from Microsoft without a licence?

>>58672329
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9WTtJ

oopsie daisie ;)

>>58672332
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

>>58672343
Get rid of the seashit hdd.

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>>58660036
yay or nay?

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>>58660036
redpill me on this:

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236452

>>58672103
Get an i3-7350k instead of the i5-7600k.
Get a 120gb SSD.
Get an RX 480 4GB.
Done.
Something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YHNHJV

>>58660036
Hey guys, I have a problem with my (first) build.
Parts arrived a couple weeks ago, I assembled it, turned it on and it ran for about 10 seconds before entering a boot loop. I disassembled the whole thing, and even with just the motherboard and the psu, the system bootlooped every time. Now here's the real kicker: i sent the parts back to get tested, and all the parts worked normally, the system booted and posted like normal and benchmarks wdre accurate. What did I do wrong? pls help

>>58672356
Keeping that in mind. Thank you friendo.

>>58672444
>Get an i3-7350k instead of the i5-7600k.
Isn't the jury still out on this? I'm sketchy about only 2 physical cores, have my heart set on an i5.

>Get a 120gb SSD.
>Get an RX 480 4GB.

Considering this. Will the RX480 4gb be superior to the 1060 3gb? Will it be competitive for high-quality games for the next 5ish years?

Is M.2 drive overheating an actual issue for day to day use? I know they thermal throttle but will I notice it?

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I NEED

1440p 60fps +

for two years or so, maybe SLI at that point

so rip my anus up senpaitachi

>>58672621
>for two years or so, maybe SLI at that point
Never ever rely on SLI, especially when the future of the tech is as dubious as it is right now with DX12 coming up.

>>58672595
I've had mine for 3 years and it overheats quite easily but there aren't really any symptoms or consequences so far

>>58672630
Well fuck I will probably just replace the 1070 but this 6700k needs to last

>>58672621
Buy a 7700k if anything.

>>58672641
Get a 1080ti when it releases if you can afford it
If not then just get the 1080

>>58672661
Senpai I always heard this was overkill for 2k resolution so I went with 1070

also how do i cheap out on PSU

>>58672680
>also how do i cheap out on PSU
Don't.

>>58672688
I just went with 650 so that I wouldn't need to ever worry about it being shit in the future though in the future laptops and tiny boxes will probably be the best option for gaming machines because of advancing technology

>>58672546
Bump

Hey, can I get a rate on this before I order the parts? Thanks.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rr2GVY

>>58671735 here, updated my build.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/JyWTtJ


>Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor
>CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler
>MSI Z270I GAMING PRO CARBON AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard
>Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
>Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
>Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
>Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
>Silverstone FTZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case
>Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply
>Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan x 3

>>58672103
>buying windows separately, ever
LMAO

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>>58673359
I live in a police state, not the land of the free unfortunately.

>>58673449
Still better than living in a piece of shit country where putting food on the table is the major concern for most people, not what software you'd like to buy. I can download any amount of content without being penalized in any way, because everyone fully well knows that I probably couldn't afford what I download anyway, so why bother with prosecution, it won't teach me the lesson they want, namely, that I should buy it.

>>58672621
No reason to get a liquid cooler aside from gaymur aesthetics

>>58672641
The 1070 will be fine @1440p for the next two years at least. And DX12 will only make mGPU better. Easier has yet to be seen

The i5 6700K is probably slightly overkill. You could get away with a i5 7600K and upgrade later. Intel will probably have one more refresh on LGA1511. The next i7s might be super cheap.

>>58672103
RX470
i5 7500 (upgrade to unlocked i7 later) + stock cooler
SATA SSD instead of m.2
That will save you the 150

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Just finished this build, reusing some storage and sound card from my old rig, thought I'd share. Thanks to this thread on the cooler choice. Love the simple looks and efficiency of it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/skq2BP

>>58673648
>No reason to get a liquid cooler aside from gaymur aesthetics
This. Get the Cryorig H7, nearly a third the price. I'm currently overclocked on a 7700k to 5.0 GHz and max load puts me around 80 degrees with the H7.

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