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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
just joined the family
>t420s i7 2.8
>win 7 (2016 microsoft suite from uni)
how'd I do? only visible problem is the O and V on the logo are missing but the "thinkpad" part is fine.
New to computers and don't use it for gaming, is there anything I can do with this guy??
Just have one of your family members in the US send you one instead of money.
There is no "best" linux. All distros contain mostly the same packages (of varying ages) and can be riced to the same degree. Most of what spurs debate among the uninitiated revolves around default DEs (which you can change) and package managers. If you have zero linux experience, get something Ubuntu- or Debian-based. >>>/g/flt
My t60 with IPS and SSD is getting a bit slow, are there more modern thinkpads with a good screen? The t440s and t440p can be had with a 1080p IPS screen, but I really want a 15 inch laptop again.
I can, but my next vacations are till march, and i somewhat need a laptop right now.
Not urgent but finding a t420p under $190 is somewhat hard here and is mostly under the usual "scam" sites.
Thinkfags can't seriously defend 1366x768, can they?
samefag here, I'm thinking about buying a thinkpad for backend development, will use arch with a light DE, thought about a x220 but do u think there would be a better alternative (im low on budget)
Where do you guys get your motherboards?
I cleaned the battery contacts and still had a problem turning it on with only battery power, and then I tried taking out my motherboard and just connecting it directly to the battery and keyboard and still had the buzzing sound.
what ssd can i put in x220t?
2.5inch or msata
does it support 2?
Just got my t420 in the mail. Paid $90 for it since it didn't come with a HDD. The seller didn't list the screen resolution so I expected it to be the 768 screen, but it turns out it's the 900 screen with a NVS 4200m so I'm really happy about that.
Might do the FHD mod whenever the kits come back in stock.
My first generation X1 Carbon is already starting to die; keyboard barely works (f and a are damn near impossible to lightly tap or get recognized on the first stroke), mounting issues with onboard SSD/removable media, and the encasement is starting to feel flimsy. Chinks can't make anything quality.
Meanwhile, my half dozen or so older IBM Thinkpads (701 to T42) work just fine and are still in top quality.
Really thinking about picking up a used MBP or something at this point for a replacement.
Hi /tpg/, the battery on my t420 is kinda "loosey", in the sense that it doesn't stand perfectly still in its place, you can feel a little movement if you push with the finger. Not a big deal, its not like its falling out of the laptop, but I wanted to know if this happens to someone else
I got a MBP as a replacement for my T60 but the battery and keyboard started dying and I didn't want to pay the $201 to repair them, and seeing as I dislike OSX, I got I got a W520 without RAM or HDD/SDD for $296 and took the SSD I use for games from my desktop PC and bought two cheap 4GB RAM sticks.
I can't abandon ThinkPads. They're just so good.
if you're quadcore and you know it clap your hands
C L A P
Did I fuck up? Gonna buy / install a 1TB Samsung 850 SSD and 8gb RAM myself.
You guys serious or yall just yanking my chain? This was through Lenovo's corporate perks program... it was $760 before I added M$ Office. Should I have just bought a 220?
That is pretty decent.
>buzzwords are easier than explaining my opinion.
It is a good buy; however you fucked up partly when you bought ms word. Why would you buy that?
No. That is merely a benifit of using thinkpads. People like to hate 'newer' things on this board, just for the sake of hating 'newer things'. That, as well as jealousy, is why people make unsound claims to why they don't like the newer thinkpads.
It's been like that forever, and it will be the same way in 10 years when the majority of people on this board are shitposting from their x250's complaining about the new x280 models or whatever.
>People like to hate 'newer' things on this board, just for the sake of hating 'newer things'. That, as well as jealousy, is why people make unsound claims to why they don't like the newer thinkpads
Worshiping new garbage like a consumercuck is worse than "hating new things"when there are plently of valid reasons to hate what Lenovo has done with the line over the years
Whew. Thank you for talking me off the ledge. I bought Office because I need this thing for work (military) and really didn't want deal with senior NCOs and officers telling me something isn't working because I have OpenOffice and not M$. I know it's a bit of a waste but I'm not as tech savvy as I once was so avoiding potential headaches makes it kind of worth it for me.
>there are plenty of valid reasons
>doesn't list any valid reasons
So the same was said about IBM, and now Lenovo. You call others consumercucks, yet you blindly appeal to the bandwagon opinion of hating new things—at least I can assume so, as you did not list any of these so called 'valid opinions' yourself.
The only opinion I have seen that hold some merit are:
>muh keyboard layout
Even so, that is mostly arbitrary nostalgia.
>>doesn't list any valid reasons
it's called lurking more reddit friend
>The only opinion I have seen that hold some merit are:
Then you don't know anything about the line and are talking out your ass
>personal attacks instead of attacking argument
>still doesn't state any of the "many valid reasons"
Even if I did know nothing about thinkpads—I probably own thinkpads older than yourself—that would still not strengthen your main point; that is:
>new thinkpads suck because appealing to the bandwagon opinion of an imageboard makes me feel like I know what I'm talking about, and because change triggers me
ay fags help me out
x200 or t400?
or something else
>>muh keyboard layout
>Even so, that is mostly arbitrary nostalgia.
another anon, I would even try to learn new placement of keys but they have blatantly just threw them away so there is nothing to learn, just hate them for bad decisions, also I tried many chiclet keyboards (acer, asus, hp, lenovo apple...) and even thou after first experience after so many pics seen online I was turbo_disappointed (coz it always looked so rubbery, but felt like ultra_cheap_plastic) I gotta say that lenovo chiclet is very good
BUT THEY FUCKED UP LAYOUT SO BADLY
I stuck one of the older stylus inside my x220T and now its stuck . HELP
I thought it would be a good replacement!
yes, because I'm going to write you an essay on a gook toon board as to why Lenovo has taken the line in the wrong direction and how that relates to the general trend of adapting to the "3 year rule" of the consumer lifecycle that has gained in popularity over the last decade all so you can refute it with some vague thoughtless garbage that you continue to spew.
slim 'n' slow
it's slimmer but uses an undervolted CPU to drop temperatures to make up for the lack of ventihilation and get slightly better battery life
the tradeoff is decent
i actually really liked my x200s even though it was just an undervolted c2d
i got some made in japan ones on amazon.
love this style, using it exclusively.
On replacing wireless cards, how do I know if it will work? I looked up the model and it seems there are different versions of the same card. What to get? Pic related is the network card I'm trying to replace.
okay so is there a thinkpad or lattitude or some shit for $415 ($500 max) that has the following or better?
>intel core i5-4278u (look at benchmarks for all generations)
>256 pci-e ssd
does anything fit that criteria or should i just use the money to fix the screen on my 13" retina macbook pro?
so I've got a thinkpad x220, when using intellij it seems to get really hot (not sure how hot since on arch and don't know how to check temps) so far upgraded to ssd buying new ram this month should I disassemble it clean it out and reapply thermal paste
Actually my life is great and I'm in a good mood this morning. It's why I tried to help you while insulting you.
This isn't /flt/. Or reddit.
Does anyone else think that Thinkpads look nice and are aesthetically pleasing? I tell my friends that Thinkpads look nice and they think I'm crazy. Maybe I like the way they look because of the nostalgia factor since the first laptop I used was my dad's Thinkpad he got from working at IBM.
Just got my T430 today and pulled it out of the box not 15 minutes ago. Should this thing be idling this hot? I'm just installing some programs right now
are you idling or installing programs? you can't be doing both
normal idle temp should be under 45C, under stress testing it will get very hot, but ideally it should not get hot enough to thermal throttle
Just upgraded my ram on my beautiful T420 for first time. I was expecting ram to be in the slot but it's in another place. so instead of 8Gb which I just bought I have 12 gb
Is everything right? Just making sure. thanks
Cool. Yeah I read about two slots but I figured they would use the bottom one and not under keyboard. either way all is well . My new g.skill is fine in second slot right? any BIOS changes I should do or is all well?
Yeah. Pretty much my same thought. Once it started to boot and the OS logo popped all was well. Done it on desktops plenty. Just new to the laptop upgrade world I guess. have a good day /g/
My Thinkpad is turning 5 in a few months. Everything is working well xept for the hard drive.
Also be nice, it's my first linux distro.
>Tfw based 1280x800
It's really all you need on a 12.1" screen
Yeah, now that I look at it, $130 US is on the upper end of what I should expect to get out of it. Still not bad. My intention is to put the money toward a Dell Chromebook 13 with an i3.
Thinking of getting an SSD for my X200 when the tax refund check goes through, but how much of an actual difference in speed does it make? It's hard for me to think of everyday cases where disk read/write operations would cause heavy bottlenecks. The only thing that jumps to mind is hibernate/suspend-to-disk, but I don't do that very often. Maybe compiling/packing/installing very large packages, but it seems that most of the time would still be spent on compilation which is limited by the CPU speed, desu ka?
anyone have a dell e6230 they can comment on? kinda split between that and an x230. really similar machines, e6230 is a little thinner though, and will work with my e series docking station and current charger i think.
>Does anyone else think that Thinkpads look nice and are aesthetically pleasing? I tell my friends that Thinkpads look nice and they think I'm crazy. Maybe I like the way they look because of the nostalgia factor since the first laptop I used was my dad's Thinkpad he got from working at IBM.
Since i was 6, i usually went to a technology fair with my dad. There were (and still are) some stands that sells only Thinkpads. I always LOVED that design, IDK why, but I think because it make the laptop seems like a no-bullshit piece of equipment
Still planning to get one of those BTW, poorfag here
it's not the jewgolds so much that I'm kvetching about, more of whether or not it's a "necessary" upgrade. how significant is the difference in power consumption? I get a full charge of 66Wh and usually run between 16-18 W at idle/low CPU usage.
should drop 3 or 4 watts, but it's not as necessary with Linux as it is with Windows where you have the ridiculously inefficient Windows Update and indexing services thrashing the disk.
Lads, a local electronic salvage shop is selling a t520 with a busted ethernet jack and a 500gb hard drive for the same price that they're offering a t420 with a 320gb. Now the HDD is not really a bother, but I'm not sure if not having ETH would drive me crazy. Opinions?
>Does anyone else think that Thinkpads look nice and are aesthetically pleasing?
Yup. They broke the mold. Compare that to nowadays - almost every laptop is a clone of the fucking Mac - same unibody, same chiclet garbage keyboard, same same same. Oh, except color difference in some cases. Even Lenovo is guilty.
I'll take God-tier utilitarian dependableness over trendy, one-port facebook machines thanks.
It was on ebay. Theory I've heard is the guy intended to list it as an auction starting at $250 but fucked up and listed it as buy it now instead, and some lucky bastard picked it up. Wasn't even someone from around here, I don't think.
>starting at $250 but fucked up and listed it as buy it now instead, and some lucky bastard picked it up
no way. Seller would have cancelled the purchase at that point, unless he was mentally challenged
Should I get one of the newer thinkpads? I have some extra cash on me.
Bonus would be better screen, better battery life, faster processor, more reliable, and not getting some gross thinkpad that smells bad and has been living in the owners mothers basement.
I'm thinking maybe x250, or maybe should I go for some older models?
Is there anything to be done with dead batteries?
Is it possible to combine cells from a few dead units to make a working one?
Bought this today, (and waiting for delivery) for 800 PLN (~200USD), i5-2520, 4GB, no hdd, IPS. Good deal ?
I'm excited, I just got my first not-old thinkpad, a W550s.
1080p, i7-5600U, K620m, 128SSD, 8Gb, 17hr battery
I'm an engineering student who moves around a lot and does CAD every day, this machine sounds like a dream.
Hoping this lasts me 4+ years.
I hear you man. I prefer the old thinkpad design philosophy too. I just need to have newer hardware, since the programs I use are so dependent on updated drivers. I've been using a W520 for a while and it's starting to show it's age, even with a new SSD.
Any downsides to shoving a t420 keyboard into a t430?
I already have a third gen i7 and 8GB RAM I can transplant from my current Dell Inspiron, I'll just keep an eye out for a no-cpu listing for maximum dealz
I know nothing about laptops, I've never owned one, but I've been looking a lot today for a laptop for work...
Why is the fucking x220 so seemingly better than anything else like it? I've been looking around all day for a convertible laptop/tablet and it seems like if you want anything with 4gb of ram, you're basically going to be paying like 250+, then you're going to get a significantly worse processor, a smaller screen, and less hard drive space until you start paying like 500~
How do these cunts do it, what am I missing? is it just the fact that it's ugly as fuck?
Don't know about the T410, but I have a T510 with the dedicated GPU and it doesn't have Optimus. The integrated graphics on the CPU are actually disabled, with no clear way to turn them back on.
hey wizards of /g/ i wish to buy a t420 on amazon is this good idea? Does lenovo still make new ones or do i have to buy used?
Depends on the price. No they don't make new ones, but they do sell refurbs for like $400
The whole trick about thinkpads though is that they're good even used, you can find a t420 for like $200
No. Viewing angles and colors are about as good as it gets for TN, though. The 1080p screen has something like 95% sRGB coverage, and even the 900p one kicks the T420's ass.
W520 has a workstation-level Quadro GPU and four memory slots on quadcore models. T520 only has an entry-level NVS card and two RAM slots at best.
Just learn American.
The screen with 95% sRGB coverage is on the W520. The T520 has a slightly lousier 82% sRGB, but at least it is not nearly as bad as the T420's <70%.
The Quadro vs NVS GPUs hardly matter anymore, they're both kinda shit. My Quadro is barely able to play TF2 at a consistent 60fps at 1366x768.
As a fellow mexican, i can tell you chinkpads arent worth it here, they are just too expensive.
If you want a good and inexpensive laptop just get a latitude, they are pretty cheap and are almost as durable as chinkpads.
I got an E6420 (i5 2320m, 4gb ram, 320gb hard drive) a few weeks ago for 2400 pesos (about 125 USD)
Alright /tpg/ I have the chance to buy a T540 FHD with 500gb hdd, 8gb ram, i7 quad-core, and charger for 450$
I know that the device has barely been used and has just been sitting on a shelf for the last year.
Should I pull the trigger??
Does anyone here run any DAW on their ThinkPad? (Like the T420, T520 etc).
I know that the specs are enough for my DAW (FL Studio 12), but I want to hear about people's experiences with running a DAW om a ThinkPad.
Being able to produce music while I'm not at my desk would be great.
I want to use my thinkpad X60 tablet again for design work, but I remember the screen is yellow and dim. Anything I can do to it to fix that? The screen was replaced three years ago and dust wondering.
About to jump in and possibly buy this but I'm shit scared about no guarantee on it:
Anything seem immediately wrong with it?
Just got a T420 from ebay from a IT re-seller.
>I configured and activated windows
>installed a browser and adobe lightroom
>shut down the computer for a couple hours
>come back I get this blinky shit when trying to power on
>doesn't get to bios, just does the blink in the picture every few seconds
I read around to take out the battery and unplug, press the power button a bunch, and that has worked twice to get windows to boot, but then the screen either goes gray, or BSOD.
Is this fixable, or am I going to have to RMA it?
You said you were able to get it to Windows, so I thought you were at least able to occasionally post to bios. I'd make sure your ram is properly seated as well, take the battery out while you turn it on, etc. I've had issues like this with other computers, and it usually involves the ram if you can't get passed the bios.
Hope that's it.
Going to just rig a new CMOS on to those paddles