Linux-zealots don't consider that spying is done processor-level. Privacy has no bearing in weighing the pros/cons of any software or OS. How they reason that spying is limited to only one company is beyond me.
>>52937946 I just can't understand some people, microsoft clearly states in their terms what data they collect and they already said that it cannot be disabled completely. Being closed source you cannot prove that there's a way to avoid undesired data recollection so the only thing you can do is to trust in their good faith. Considering that microsoft already has proven to not be always a good sport or being completely respectful with their customers in the past, even if they're now you cannot blame people to not trust them so easily.
You supposedly read their terms and determined that the deal is good, but other people may not think the same and can consider that microsoft is abusing the average joe, soccer moms, etc. With microsoft, apple and google for example they decide what you share with them, even data that you don't want to disclose, with most linux distros you don't need to accept asinine terms and you're the one who decides what to disclose and being open source there's a guarantee.
So, the people who already chosen a system where they have the control over it will not suddenly choose to change their mind because you consider that useful features that windows lacks are "a waste of time", if any, you're only showing frustration and denial of what your own software provider stated by doing this.
Even if it were true that you can disable all the private data collection, you can't prove it and not all people has the need to defend or fight against their own software provider who they're supposed to trust in if they can be comfy with a system from a different provider that doesn't make to do that.
DisableWinTracking (redundant) https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking Spybot Anti Beacon: https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/ Peerblock (make sure to add a list, then choose Microsoft servers): http://www.peerblock.com/releases/public-releases/peerblock-1.2.0-r693
>>52942595 look at this fucking idiot "don't do what you like! ever! how dare you see an image of a cartoon child being fucked!" i'm not even a pedo, in all honesty, i just think that you are by FAR worse than kiddiefuckers
>>52943222 wow, that sure sounds like something you can truly do on a certain piece of software maybe a kernel with a set of coreutils? the name is slipping me right now, i'm sure someone can reply to me with it
>>52943299 Ok you can "customize" your OS to not collect private data from you (something you cannot even be sure about in a reasonably extent), but that doesn't means that your software provider has been treating you in a shitty way and yet you're supporting it to continue to be shitty in the future.
This is not about using linux or not, this is about identifying the intentions of your software provider and think by yourself if you feel comfy with it, for example chromeos and android are based on a lot of open source software, but that doesn't mean that is fine when they do it. Yes, they use open source software but they make clear that they decide what data they collect from you and if you use their products you must accept their terms, simple as that.
>lincucks sorry if your name calling reinforces my bias about feeling that i'm on the correct side and you're frustrated because you cannot provide a reasonable argument and prefer to evade the point.
>>52943498 ok, so you managed to defend yourself against your own software provider. It's fine but i don't feel any need to defend someone who treats me shitty even if their software is good (i don't think windows is good though but that's just me). So, continue using windows when i use something else, it's your computer after all.
>>52943540 The spying did concern me for sure, and I am more weary about MS products now, but I'm someone who actually fixes shit. I despise people who find one flaw in something and immediately drop it because of that flaw, especially when the flaw is totally fixable. Like how some people reinstall windows every 6 months to "clean everything out", instead of asking what or why they need to clean it out. Those people are fucking retarded, and I group them up with the same people who say "It's impossible to disable the spying because I read some blog on the internet!" when scripts and programs have been available for half a year, some of them exclusive to 4chan's /g/.
>>52943653 However you accept that this is not about customizing anything. You're free to use any operative system you want from any software provider you choose but you cannot negate that microsoft is screwing with their users. The same way some people tests linux some time and decides to "drop it because of a flaw, especially when the flaw is totally fixable", people is free to decide that microsoft is not a software provider to be trusted and that doesn't make them retarded, all people has different priorities and sorry if i care more about the intentions of those software providers than about honest mistakes.
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