Why hasn't technology been able to fix this problem yet?
I walk around my city very often and I see people texting/staring right at their cellphones while driving all the time. It's mainly young female, and very scarey that these people are even allowed to have a license.
Why hasn't there been any solution to this? Even built in jammers would work.
>Why hasn't technology been able to fix this problem yet?
Cars already park themselves and emergency break on their own. The only viable next step is driverless cars and, AFAIK, we are going to get there soon-ish.
>Even built in jammers would work.
This idea gets tossed around here every once in a while, its just plain stupid.
Jammers cannot selectively jam the inattentive peoples phones, they will jam up everything.
From the police, to the pedestrian, everyone within range.
There just needs to be more education about the matter and ticket people for this bullshit.
What about built in driver's eyes tracking cameras and an obnoxious horn blasting right at him/her whenever the eyes wander off the windshield?
Would work wonders on people dozing of while driving too.
wont matter in a few years
everyone is on this auto driving game
>have driverless car
>something happens while i'm on the phone/reading a book
>can't take control fast enough
>get blamed for any damage caused
or better yet
>go to bar
>drink a bit too much
>take my driverless car home
I fear that people in charge will not have absolute faith in driverless cars and put in place some stupid laws that will pretty much require me to look straight with hands on the wheel even if i'm not in control of the car.
would also scare the fuck out of you when you go to change the radio and then you swerve into the person texting and then yup.
Better to just make it not worth it to get caught using one while driving. Can't afford a $5000 distracted driving ticket?
OK, give up your phone and sim card till you pay the fine.
Or your car is getting impounded till you pay the fine.
Or your license is suspended till you pay the fine.
Oh what's that, you need your license for your job? SO you spend hours a day on the road as your job while endangering your life and others constantly then? I hear McDonald's hiring, and they don't do deliveries so you're in luck.
On-windshield HUD and radio control on the wheel should solve the "me not looking on the road was totally justified" excuse. Also, you don't change the radio station if you're about to run some shmuck over.
>get you eyes off the windhshield/road
>end up with the honker honking your ass
>get stopped by police
>fined 5000 and your driver license withhold
>still being honked on
That'd be hilarious.
Ride on the passenger seat, you dolt. Or get a [spoiler]driverless[/spoiler] taxi.
Better voice recognition/hands free technology might help. Also cars ALWAYS seem to have garbage touch interfaces. I don't understand, it can't be that expensive to make, or even outsource a simple, functional touch interface. Why can't they just use Android? They're always proprietary, and always bad! The screen they use is like late-90s level trash, why can't they be as sensitive and responsive as phones?
again, its going to come down the laws when these cars start hitting the road.
like Tesla's can do it right now, but you can't be drunk and let it drive you home
You're wrong about handsfree shit.
Its being mentally distracted that is the problem
People can take their hand(or hands) off the wheel for a moment and change stations or other shit just fine because their attention is on the road, accidents happen when you start shifting too much focus elsewhere like reading some 5 inch screen or texting your thoughts.
hypothetical, we don't know yet.
Why would the car even let you intentionally crash it ?
I can understand taking control while you're operating it legally, but I assume its going to stop you if you try to ram it into pedestrians.
>in-car touch interface
Another way of getting distracted while driving.
Tactile or fuck off. And only minimal input allowed.
>being mentally distracted
I heard somewhere (radio?) that conversations are the most distracting shit a driver can suffer. And the worst are those agitated ones (not yet fully blown arguments) with people sharing the ride.
What are we going to do when self driving cars destroy millions of jobs?
>tfw no more truck drivers, cab drivers, bus drivers, food delivery drivers, package delivery drivers, limo drivers, drivers ed teachers, ambulance drivers, etc.
Self driving cars are great and all but it's gonna fuck the economy when all these people are suddenly out of work and no nee jobs will be created to take the place of the lost jobs.
You're thinking about this the wrong way.
This is the solution. People who use their phones while driving will crash and kill people or cause property damage they will be liable for.
Just bigger tickets. My brother was ticketed for using his phone at a stop light, fully stopped. $230 CDN. I'll bet you anything if they move that up to $700, with $1000 being the fine if moving, double that in a school zone, etc etc, this shit stops right away. Shits more dangerous than speeding, its ti e to treat it like it is.
Technological unemployment shouldn't delay technological development for a lot of reasons. Regardless, the amount of lives saved with driverless cars will far outweigh the job loss. Not to mention traffic will become much more efficient, and people will have time to do whatever else while travelling. The job loss will be slow anyway. It'll take a while, but 100 years from now people will have a hard time imagining our current reckless means of transportation.
well yeah you don't change the radio station if you're about to run some shmuck over, you get on the gas. But you do look away from the windshield when you're changing the radio station, or when you're trying to find the buttons on the steering wheel.
I could see the self driving car working. Doesn't current DUI laws mean you have to be in "care and control" of the vehicle. sitting in a vehicle designed to be a self-driving vehicle while drunk would mean the vehicle is in care and control of you, not the other way around. I doubt DUI would still fully apply in that case. I'd still just pass out in the back or something
Dunno about the Land of the Free, but here, if you are drunk and sit in your car with as little as the key in the ignition being turn on (as in the motor working) you can get busted the same. Doesn't really matter if you were not on gear, on park brake and chained to a wall or whatever. The intent of driving under the influence was there and is enough. Or something.
>HONK everytime you blink
Niggas would be running them head_and_eyes devices from Clockwork Orange all the time.
yeah that's how it works here too. i dont know about the land of the free either.
>The intent of driving under the influence was there and is enough. Or something.
From my understanding that's what "care and control means," you're sitting in the car and you intend to drive, chains and all. but if the car is designed to drive it self, how could one prove intent to drive, and thus charge for DUI? I think the law would have to be reworded.
If there is, as the other Anon suggested, an emergency take_the_wheel protocol, just sitting in the driver's seat would be enough IMO.
>dont know about the land of the free either
Sorry, assumed you were Americano.
There's definitely tech that exists to be totally hands free on a phone while driving its existed for years. Speaking all of your texts out loud or just calling someone on a hands free head set.
DW about it.
There's already cars that "take the wheel" in an emergency or beep when you're drifting lanes, in that case I could see with still charging for distracted driving or DUI cause you still have to be driving it. But if it's supposed to drive itself i don't see how it can be proven that you were gonna drive it. I guess it would just be simpler to ride in the passenger seat though while the car drives itself when the tech is finally mainstream, that way you can drunk text all you want.
>1 ton truck
regular cars are heavier than that...
we've had hands-free for over a decade. we now have voice controlled phones. the only thing left to do is make people use the options available.
>get in accident
>try to call for help
My point is: if there is the possibility of you needing to take the wheel, you must be able to do so. Being under influence renders this impossible.
If this is any clearer.
Like, say, leading a wagon. The horse knows the way, it's basically going by itself, no need to take the reins at all, but if the "driver" is drunk, he gets busted all the same.
Driver being the last failsafe. Don't want it to be fucking wasted.
Aren't haulers pretty close to being driverless already? All them lane-keeping, speed-keeping, breaking and whatnot systems.
>Aren't haulers pretty close to being driverless already? All them lane-keeping, speed-keeping, breaking and whatnot systems.
big difference is driverless can do everything else on top of cruise control, staying in lane and brake.
Now, I'm not all that much into this, but I heard something about "intelligent" CC systems that not only keeps your speed, but also manages to keep the distance between you and the vehicle in front a safe.
With all this it does sound pretty close to self driving.
I'm saying the horse replaces the driver completely.
There's no need for you to take the reins.
There's no need for you to be a fail-safe.
Driver-less cars would mean there's no need for a driver, what ever system is in place replaces the driver. So just sitting there shouldn't be enough to convict anymore because at that point you really wouldn't need to be sitting there at all cause the car takes care of everything.
not to mention overtaking and keeping track of all other cars and even pedestrians
that would be ideal but it wont happen for a long time. current law says there has to be a person in the drivers seat and that person is responsible for what happens.
You're right I guess.
There won't be a driver's seat and no one would be driving it. Passengers can't get a ticket for DUI, right?
There's a reason you take a taxi when intoxicated nowadays.
That's the point.
Current laws have you sitting there, sober, getting your ass bored off, while the damn thing is doing what you can do better.
The song of future would have passenger seat platforms driving themselves (with laws legalizing that shit).
What are we going to do when automatic farming equipment destroy the jobs of millions of people working in the fields?
What are we going to do when mass producing factories destroy millions of jobs for small workshops.
What are we going to do when automatic phone switches destroy the jobs of millions of phone operators?
And so on..
Can't wait to see all the methhead truckdrivers out of a job.
>reading comprehension, how does it werk
self driving cars are safer. you can come up with whatever story you want but it wont change the fact they are safer without a human driver.
The phone's accelerometer can tell when you are traveling in a car. The forward facing camera can use eye-recognition to sense when eyes dart up to look at the road and back down to the phone to confirm that it is the driver that is texting. The phone locks itself under these conditions and doesn't unlock until velocity is zero.
It would be ideal, laws aside we'll see where they get with the tech. Accidents aside, there's a lot of split second decisions that most people aren't even aware they're considering that keep the car on the road and people safe but software isn't intuitive enough to be a safe driver on the road predicting what humans will do. They'd have to be all Humans or all Software.
Yeah, but wheel is still there, you can drive if you feel like it, or have the car do it for you (if you're drunk or otherwise preoccupied. but like i said above it would have to be all or nothing i doubt tech could predict everything a human might do with a car reliably enough to have them both on the road.
That's a problem with the system's accountability not the laws themselves, which is a separate problem.
Besides the whole reason for the hefty fine is to discourage distracted driving not punish people for distracted driving, if it means its a deterrent for 80% of people who can't afford the fine then that's significantly better than those same people potentially killing someone. Not to mention these days citizens are getting better at policing the authorities. Money or power won't save you if you get recorded and its made public. Sure you're rich and could afford the fine but if your license gets taken your SOL. Heck the politicians with suspended licenses might push for better public transit! lol
We have fixed it.
All people have to do is pair the phone with the stereo and all your calls get routed through.
Texting while driving is harder but we have had software that can read a text to you while you drive, so I don't really see why people aren't just using that.
Next step is to have self driving cars because fucking normies cannot figure out how to pair a phone with a stereo.
Besides where i'm from the law already exempts cops and other emergency service providers from punishment for distracted driving on the basis that they have to use their computer terminals and phones while they drive around. If they cause an accident or kill someone they are still liable thought.
I don't see higher fines as a deterrent.
In my country you already lose your drivers license and is fined an assload if you are nabbed while texting or driving under the influence.
People still do it, because "I'm too smart to get caught, lol!" or because they just don't care.
Best thing people can do is get better at multitasking while driving. I fap, change clothes, eat and drive like a pro. Not sure why people can't handle simple tasks without crashing
What we need is speed cameras that also detect phones.
But with no signs. Already the cameras get moved around every month so people can't figure out where it is and drive safely to avoid a $500 fine.
Android Auto and Apple Carplay
>phone runs the infotainment system so it's never outdated
>can switch between platforms in seconds
>no more crappy OE infotainment systems 3 generations behind when they launch
>the device is locked out while plugged in
>have to use special interface designed to minimize distracted driving
>controlled with touchscreen, voice, physical buttons, and steering wheel buttons
And JBL just launched a head unit that supports it with things like a captive screen and steering wheel control support for $400
Pioneer and other manufacturers sell head units that support those things for well over $1000
Probably gonna pick one up for my car since 90s Porsche head units are absolute crap
I almost got killed last week because some lady drove through an intersection while I (and the rest of the cross-traffic had a green light) BECAUSE SHE WAS GOING THE WRONG FUCKING WAY ON A ONE-WAY. She t-boned a mexican in a red SUV in the lane next to me and flipped his car.
I keep my phone mounted on a holder thing that sits on the dashboard so basically I have hands free all the time and whenever I look at it I'm looking forward, rather than down.
This way I'm never actually distracted from the road and I don't risk having to drop it on a short notice in case shit hits the fan.
I wish more people would do that instead of just holding it and being a danger to everybody
>it can't be that expensive to make, or even outsource a simple, functional touch interface.
it's absolutely impossible to manufacture a non-distracting touchscreen interface for cars. They should only work with the handbrake on.
dude, we've been over this.
it doesn't matter if you're hands free or not, you are still being distracted.
I remember years ago there was an older video about this shit, where on a test track they had drivers do something relatively simple, like count backwards from 100 by 3, and guess what, they all sucked at driving then.
Super Duty has nothing to do with it. Basically every truck that you can go buy is rated by how much you can load in the bed safely. 150/1500 is a half ton bc the bed can safely hold #1000. 250/2500 is 3/4 ton and 350/3500 is a 1 Ton truck bc it can carry up to #2000 in the bed. These are American Standards and may be different in Metric World.