Can we talk about which CPU is the best price/performance?
I lurk this board and everyone seems to love the 4690K, 4790K, 6600K, and 6700K. I look at the prices for them and they are on totally different spectrums. You can get a 4690K/6600K for like $230-$250 while the 4790K/6700K is easily $330-$400. In what way is a 6700K worth $70 more than a 4790K or a $150 more than a $6600K?
It seems absolutely ridiculous. I get that the 6700K is an i7 and has HT, but when are you ever actually using that unless you're some professional who is editing images or rendering video?
To me, it seems like the 6600K is the best price/performance for top performance.
What do you all think?
Get the 4690k . I just bought a i5 4690k yesterday from amazon for $230. will be here tomorrow. I had originally got a g3258 at microcenter, but fuck that dual core meme. I can't even play new games with it. Guess I'll have to sale the pentium on craigslist or just use it for a different cheap pc.
thanks for reading my blog. Happy to have a decent quad core incoming, should last a good while.
>release a product every 2 years that is marginally better and requires a new motherboard and other components
>customers actually have to debate whether to buy the older product since they are basically the same thing, but the newer product is more compatible with whatever shit 'standards' they dream up over the next year
at this point I'm considering the 6600K. I just don't know how much I'll notice the difference from a 6600K to a 6700K. From what I can tell, it's a 0.5GHZ underclock and HT. It seems like in video games, the 6600K actually performs just as well as the 4790K. The 6700K does seem to destroy everything in games for some reason, though. newer architecture with 4790K speeds, I guess?
haswell to skylake is similar to ivy bridge to haswell. not much of a performance boost, but the prices where about the same. so there wasn't really any reason to pick up a ivy unless you got it for a steal.
right now, as you pointed out, skylake's 6700k seems to be inflated, and it is, because of a supply issue. intel has been having issues with its 14nm chips, and most 6600k's are 6700k rejects. so intel is able to keep the flow of 6600k's going but they can't with 6700k's. 6700k msrp is post to be similar to 4790k's msrp.
right now the 4790k is the best price to performance option to get. motherboards are semi cheap, ddr3 is extremely cheap, i just saw a 32gb ddr3 1600mhz kit on newegg brand new for $130, and the 4790k is reasonably priced and usually goes on sell for under $300.
stock clock doesn't mean much since it can be easily overclocked to 4ghz - 4.4ghz. the difference between the two is HT and HT does help a lot in games that can utilize more than 4 threads, which many new games are. for once, HT is worth the extra price premium.
In cpuz, my OC 6600k will beat a stock 6700 in single threaded, and come within spitting distance of multi-threaded. Not exactly apples to apples, but it's food for thought.
And the 6600 is on sale at jewegg with code for $192 today. Get an OC-able mobo and save some $.
> the difference between the two is HT and HT does help a lot in games that can utilize more than 4 threads, which many new games are. for once, HT is worth the extra price premium.
which one can argue towards intel's house fire x99 platform with a house fire 140watt tdp 5820k. six cores with 12 threads. it might be more multi threaded game proof than a 4790k or 6700k. if you don't mind the house fireness it might be a decent option as well. my frys awhile ago had them on sale for $280. just seems like a lot of x99 boards are shit though which is why i went skymeme.
>he fell for the 'Hyperthreading does nothing for gaymes' meme
I'm not sure about "destroy" is the right adjective, but yes it does make a difference. A $150ish difference with inflated i7 prices? You be the judge.
for the money you're paying, it doesn't seem like an i7 is worth it unless you have a job in video editing or something. that extra $100-$150 going with a 6600K instead of a 6700K can be put into another component like the GPU or something.
6600k and 6700k will bench about the same until you get into tasks that can utilize more than four threads.
best processors to get:
$300 - $400 range:
first choice tied with 5820k right now due to inflated 6700k prices
would be first choice if it wasn't so inflated in price
worth it if you don't mind a 140 watt processor. most loads it wont go that high, but once you overclock it, the thing really starts drawing power. its intel's house fire version of amd anything. the extra 2 cores and four threads are nice for games that can use more than 6 cores. most can hit 4ghz. 4.2ghz or higher hits a wall. depends on your chip and most review sites since release have stated its so random. some can hit 4.6ghz, some can't go higher than 4.2. but all can easily hit 4ghz.
$200 - $290 range:
thats it. no reason to go haswell since the 6600k is not inflated.
I saw a 6700K on best buys website for $370, the fucker sold out within like 5 minutes. I'm sort of glad I didn't snag it because it seems like the 6600K is a better value if you don't know if you need HT.
Did you read what you wrote? Do it again, this time slower.
I skipped around in the video, but the shit I saw was pretty close, like 10fps, and sometimes the same for all chips. The thing I came away with is that none of them hit the magical 144fps, and all were above 100 most of the time on most of the titles tested. And most people still have a 60hz monitor. And what is this shit about stability he is going on about? Either you have a stable OC, or you don't.
it seems like the i7 doesn't have random 10-20 frame drops like the i5 does. does it really matter? and is it worth spending $100-$150 more for? I don't think. Like I said, I think that unless you KNOW that you need HT because you're a multi-media professional or someone that uses software utilizing HT every day, I don't think i7 is worth it.
everywhere I look, you're paying at least $100 more for the i7 equivalents from the i5 equivalents. not really worth it. no idea why he went with a haswell over a skylake when it's only $20 more, though. maybe he already has a 1150 board and ddr3 ram or something.
>thats it. no reason to go haswell since the 6600k is not inflated.
Price of the mobo and ram. I can get a good mobo, ram and i7 4790 for just 20 bucks more than a similar combo with i5 6600k.
Is Skylake even worth it in the first place, though?
pic related, Passmark is saying that even at $85 more, the 4790K is a better deal than the 6600K, even if only by 2.5 points. Is it worth going to a X99 and other older hardware, though? probably not. this is why I think the 6600K is better than a 4790K. the shit is 3 years old.
fuck, forgot pic
lets keep in mind, the 6600K is literally the same CPU as the 6700K and the 4790K but at 3.5GHZ instead of 4.0GHZ. who gives a shit about hyperthreading? single thread scores are way more important.
>Is Skylake even worth it in the first place
I has a new chipset with lots of nice pictures and generally runs cooler and overclocks better than haswell, as well as having a slightly higher IPC and support for DDR4
>single thread scores are way more important.
I hear ya buddy. You're homosexual and that's normal.
It's a lifestyle that is between you and your partner.
Just so people don't fall for the G3258 trolls..
It's actually a good processor to use while you save $$ for a great one. I'm running G3258 4.5ghz OC @ 1.3v. Does what I need it to, but I will end up upgrading to the 4790k seeing as how it has the best single thread performance at the moment.
You guys seem to be all intel fags so It's probably better to ask here.
Right now I own a 8 year old computer that has an Core 2 Duo E7400. I plan to make an upgrade this year but I'll have to take it slow as I'm a poorfag living in a third world country. I started by buying stuff that I can use with the current setup, like case and a new 430w PSU (the old case was crumbling and the psu was an unbranded cheap 430w one that sounded like a diesel truck).
I'm not in a rush but saving money is really hard (have to pay shit and support family). GPU is not a priority item, so I'm looking for cpu+mobo recommendations or perhaps an upgrade path.
I don't game much, in fact the iGPU already fulfills my needs 90% of the time.
Most of the time I use the computer to shitpost or to contribute to some open source projects (RetroArch for instance) and write software (games, tools etc) for fun. I use Linux almost exclusively.
Thanks for subscribing.
not right now they aren't faggot. 4790k is 299 at MC atm. I checked. I live 40 mins from one. the 4690k is 220 at MC, and i'd rather just pay 10 bucks more to amazon to have it brought to my door.
>buying a non-K
have fun with zero future proofing
anon, holy shit. is it really that hard to check their website?
they went up on price since the holidays you fucking delusional faggot. I don't need an i7 anyway.
Well It's hard to say, I'd guess about $200 to $300 (dollar quite high here at the moment).
Thanks, sounds like a good plan. I started thinknig about the upgrade when I heard of the AMD Zen CPUs and the rumored Haswell/Skylake performance level. I thought AMD was going to release it on Q1 2016 but turns out it won't be out until Q4. Not sure if I'll wait until then.
I rarely play games and when I do it's either some demo shit from /vg/agdg/ or PS1/SNES/N64 emulators. The most intensive PC game I played in the last 3-4 years was probably Bastion, TF2 or Need For Speed Most Wanted when I still had a Nvidia 8400gs installed.
5 years from now 6600 will still be pretty good mate. Since Core 2 every year there is less and less reason to upgrade CPUs unless you are hardcore gaymen, a CAD dude or something.
>more like gay-poofing.
OC'ing is loud and noisy, even with an H100i and turboing at 4.4ghz. I regret my 4790k purchase every day.
The 4790k is the equivalent to having sex with a horse.
Well you can buy the G3258 and OC on the stock cooler to at least 4.0ghz, 4.2 I would say.
It's $70 normally, goes on sale for $50 every now, pair it with a cheap MSI board only. H81M-E33 or H81M-P33, that's if you want consistency with most reviewers. I'm not sure if you're ever planning on running Windows 10, but you won't be able to overclock if you to decide to one day.
>effectively $160 over the non-K
>Lowering the chip's lifespan.
>Running into potential issues if you draw piss in the silicon lottery.
OCing is great on shit like the G325meme, where no one gives a shit about it and won't be using it for over a year anyway.
that's from a different era.
an era where every 6 months new, higher performing parts where coming out. higher performing parts that face raped the previous higher performing from 6 months ago. where dropping $1,000 - $2,000 every six months was worth it.
now we live in an era where even after four years nothing spectacular. yes faster, but not ground breaking where its even worth $300 total to upgrade to.
even video cards have been slowing down. with the latest rumors about pascal it seems to be yet another 600 - 700 - 900 series type gains.
>still worth it over a non-K. prove me wrong.
OC'ing is a shitty-value proposition:
- Louder/hotter machine (50dba+ at 10% overclock)
- Higher electric bill
- Decreases lifespan of all your parts
All for a shitty 10% increase in performance.
I know this isn't the right place to ask, but the thread seems to be pretty active and some people here know what they're talking about, so why not.
Anyways, I'm an extreme poorfag who lives in Russia. If any of you are still reading after the previous sentence, I need your help with picking a relatively cheap CPU/mobo combination that will be sufficient for comfortable gaymen, [spoiler]streaming[/spoiler] , photoshop and all that shit for at least 2-3 years, the more the better though.
I currently have a 600W Corsair PSU, 8GB of DDR3 RAM, a 2GB ASUS GTX760, some ASRock AM3+ socket mobo and a REALLY OLD Phenom II X6 1055T processor. The CPU is fucking garbage (had it since 2011) and I want to replace it as soon as possible, but our currency is down the shitter so pretty much everything costs at least twice as much as it used to 2 years ago.
I should mention that I don't care if it's AMD or Intel, as long as it has good price/performance and will last several years. In fact, if there's any viable CPU that fits AM3+ I'll probably get that.
So, yeah, please help me out. Model, price in $ and why it's good is all I need to know. Thanks.
I have an I5 2500k OC @ 4.5 with a GTX 580 and 8 gigs of ram
This build is going to be 5 years old in Oct and I want to upgrade to a Pascal GPU and a new PC.
Should I start looking into Skylake or will Kaby Lake or Zen come with Pascal ?
And what kind of Monitor do I want to get to go with the Pascal ?
I have 1080p 60hz samsung now.
can I run two r390's and two m.2 drives in raid 0 mode on one of these, or is that asking too much?
950, are you a complete retard? Why do you fucking retards think you need the same speed as a fucking server.
Anything you do in live will be conducted without logical thought or reasoning.
Did you even read what I said? 60c @ 100%
Idle less than 30 always
try harder, and then try again
am i right in thinking that with recent generations of chips intel has been producing only a single wafer and then just downclocking or restricting them?
just thinking cos you can overclock non-k's to the same amounts,
It's an unlocked dual core CPU. Runs WoW just fine. Don't purchase this if you plan on running A+++ games.
Do your own research on it if you will, you'll find benchmarks which are really surprising.
I plan on passing down my PC to my sister and just building an all new ones for myself when Pascal come in June. I just saw a news report that says GTX 1080 in June.
Also I really wanna upgrade to an M.2 NVME SSD instead of my sata one.
Ive been running it at that speed for years.
not all z170 boards come with two m.2 slots, most come with one. gigabyte does ship a few boards with two m.2 slots.
and yes, crossfired 390s will work great with a 6600k / 6700k
pic related, my 390 nitros on my old 4790k build.
Not interested in grindy MMO garbage. Looking more towards average AAA games (another sort of trash) and a few older ones. Thanks for the advice, not getting the GWhatever.
I'm a bit tech illiterate and also EXTREMELY paranoid about doing stuff like overclocking, if I fuck something up I probably won't have the money to cover it. My brother who used to work in IT can help with that shit but I don't wanna bother him.
Regardless, OCing the 1055T sounds like a good idea. The stock speed is 2.7GHz, I could probably push it above 3 with the stock fan and get much better performance.
Also, I expect Zen to be very expensive on launch, especially here in Russia. Guess 8xxx is the cheapest and best option in this situation. Is the 8350 hot? Would you recommend any cheap coolers that can handle it? Sorry for all the questions but I'd rather be safe and happy with a functional CPU than broke with a burnt chip on my hands. If you can't be bothered answering I'll check out some websites and do more research there, I was going to do that anyway but /g/ seemed like a good place to start with. (inb4 not your tech support)
PCIE lanes alone is worth choosing Skylake over Haswell, I wish I didn't listen to /g/ and bought the Xeon E3 1231 V3
If I put in a NVME drive it will disable SATA 4/5, SATA EXPRESS and all the other PCIE x1 slots.
Now that motherboard manufacturers have boards that allow overclocking of non K series CPUs you can just get a cheap i5, overclock that and get more PCIE lanes than a comparable K series Haswell and be come out cheaper depending on your component choices. Did I mention 64~128gb DDR4 support?
I feel like I wasted so much money on the haswell, sure I use it for work, but it takes took 7 years for budget approval to upgrade from a Q9300 from 2008.
Asrock advertises i5 6400 from 2.7 up to 4.3ghz easily
The i5 skylakes are the exact same chips just with different multipliers. at the same ghz, they will run the same.
Here is an i3 @ 4.3ghz
The max turboboost value is not sustained across all cores all the time.
>the difference between the two is HT and HT does help a lot in games that can utilize more than 4 threads, which many new games are. for once, HT is worth the extra price premium.
Show me one game that benefits from HT. just one lol.
and i mean benefits from it, not like 2fps increase in one scene and 2fps lower in the next
>The max turboboost value is not sustained across all cores all the time.
obviously, its not like Asus is showing cores 1,2,3 and their speeds.
Turbo boost numbers are only about 1 core, without having the cpu and being in UEFI I can't say what the numbers look like for all 4 cores under boost.
>The max turboboost value is not sustained across all cores all the time
Most motherboards allow you to set it so that it does. MSI call it Enhanced Turbo, Asus call it Multicore Enhancement and for ASRock it's Multicore Acceleration.
Actually it doesn't because my E3 1231 V3 can only sustain a 3.6ghz turboboost across all cores.
I even bought a Z97 motherboard and set all the multipliers for each core manually
Hyper thread is rarely talked about now, only when it first hit the scene did people benchmark with it on/off.
it is an over all benefit , but sometimes it can be slightly detrimental.
Almost all the benchmarks about it are years old now, so I have no idea how it would hold up today when more and more games and programs are making use of extra cores.
I really don't see a point in turning it off unless you know for certain it slows down a certain task and you will be executing that task the majority of your time
Actually it does, because I was using it with my 4790K before I bothered to overclock it properly and it maintained 4.4GHz on all cores at all times. Perhaps Xeons aren't supported, or your chip is defective?
You're running a K CPU
Non K CPUs only hit their top Turboboost speed on 1 core, I've tried it with the new skylake 6600 non K and it doesn't hit 3.9ghz across all cores either, topped out at 3.7 sustained but will hit 3.9ghz on a single core happily.
A friends non-K 4770 also doesn't top out the turboboost on all cores and he's running on water.
Yes, I absolutely hate myself for buying into the Xeon E3 Haswell meme when skylakes can be had for not much more and are overclockable with DDR4 and more PCIE lanes with better NVME support.
Alas, I'm stuck with this Xeon for the foreseeable future (5+yrs) minimum.
local brick n mortar has
6400 for $179
6500 for $204
6600 for $208 (on promo)
6600K for $246
6700 for $307
6700K for $352
E3 1231 V3 for $245
4790 for $307 (K version out of stock)
Just for lulz they sell the 5960X for $1029
The 6700k isn't worth it consideribg that it is only %5 better than the 4790k. The 5820k is the way to go if you want something newer than the 4790k.
There have been leaks of broadwell-e.
20 additional PCIE 3.0 lanes is a huge improvement over 8 additional PCIE 2.0 lanes if you use NVME drives or other PCIE expansion cards.
>what's the point of a K, then?
Better stability, an overclocked non-K CPU is running at max clockrate 100% of the time
And guaranteed overclocking support(intel might patch non-K overclocking)
Kaveri is 2014. Not too old.
You might be thinking of the old AM3/AM2+ ones.
I'd say either X4 860k or the FX-6300. Not sure, I don't fuck with AMD much.
This is bait.
It depends really, but typically the best "power for your dollar" is the 4690 non-K.Only difference besides locked multiplier is it supports one or two visualization extensions, and is a few bucks less. I honestly tell people to buy K anyways since it leaves room in the future.
I don't even like the idea of "best value" because best value CPU's are always the most average shit, like the 860K is the best value right now, but it's not that powerful or anything. you would never actually want it in your PC. "best value" is code for "i have no money"
This. Everything has been stagnate since Sandybridge. Each new IPC improvement has been coupled with an almost exact downsizing in maximum clockspeed headroom for OC'ing.
>January 3, 2011 12:01 AM EST
All those people running 2500Ks @ 5Ghz are till laughing to this day. It may surpass the Q6600 at this point as the greatest CPU post-2000.
just got a used 2500k for 100 bux, and a used 770 for another 100 bux. OC'd the cpu to 4.5gigabobs and now i am the king of 1080@60Hz gaymen.
Unless you're playing in 4k or trying to reach 100+ fps, don't bother with Skymeme. It only performs better when you crank everything up.
for 1080/1440 gaming, you wont need more than a 2500k(unless you're going for 100+ fps in ultra).
i hope i can switch to AMD by the end of the year, fuck jewtel kikes and nvidiots. Get your shit together and release zen+polaris so we can be free
I had 3 gtx 770s break on me this past year. I honestly wish I knew why, I changed my psu, mobo and cpu in between the deaths. I'd just be playing one day and the pc would black screen and boom dead.
I honestly don't have the cash on me to just get a card right now so I'm stuck with my 4690k. Should I wait for the new gpus? I don't really play games much due to school n shit so I have no problem waiting. I can go back to consoles for now.
If you're not playing a lot right now, just get an older card like a 560ti. It can still handle most games, and they're really cheap now.
I got one when my old card died, i didn't play much either and i just wanted something fast enough for the few games i played with my friends(it's how we stay in touch long range).
If you're not in a hurry, don't bother with the hype, just get something cheap and wait for a good reason to spend your money.
I won't bother than, instead I'll just start setting aside money for the new gpus. I actually like playing my games maxed out at 1080p and I probably plan on getting a new higher res monitor down the line. For now, I'm not really interested in much. Was only looking forward to tomb raider and most other games rumored to be coming out in fall or maybe next year. I've only been playing league lately though.
If I'm to buy a card, it has to have a decent resale value. Like when I had sli 770s, I planned on selling them for around 200 bucks before pascal/Polaris release. Thanks for the advice though anon.
i'd take a 4790K over a 6600K. nigger if i'm spending like $800 on a build, i'm not "upgrading" fucking anything. who uses a motherboard or PSU for 8+ years? that's not even safe. I just build the best thing I can, use it for 5-8 years depending on how good it is, and just sell it on craigslist to fund the new build. people who upgrade a part here or there are fucking suckers.
Nah, it was a co-workers CPU but he got a 4790K after a week since he wanted the HyperThreading.
Sold it to a friend, for $100.
Then I bought it off him since he now had a CPU but no PC to put it in.
I mean the Haswell i7 simply does not worth it for a 800$ budget gamer.
5820K is best possible option
possible for 3 way SLI
8 ram slots for muh 128GB DDR4 ram
x99 boards are all made top-tier because they're all automatically enthusiast boards
fucking 6 cores niggers. OC that shit with a noctua DH15 and it will fucking destroy 6700K and 4790K and last you like 8 years as god-tier. zero difference in price from a 6700K and like $70 more than a 4790K. why the fuck would you not do it holy shit
Because the 5820K exposes you as a poorfag. Owning the top tier mainstream chip shows that you have money to burn and want the best, but won't be suckered in by sneaky jewish memes like X99.
Owning a 5820K shows that you were desperate to try and prove that you're rich by owning an X99 platform, but could only afford the absolute bottom of the barrel CPU available, exposing you as a poorfag trying to look wealthy.
>tfw having to buy a CPU from eBay because local i5 ivy bridges are 200€ + used
is that why passmark rates the 5820K as a better value than the 4790K and 6700K?
>buying anything newer than sandy bridge
Enjoy spending $300+ on skylake/haswell when you could have bought a sandy bridge cpu for <$100 and notice even know the difference.
Like all the games that "require" more cores than your cpu have?
You can find tons of people saying they can run Dragon Age: Inquisition on dualcore + HT, but it's unplayable on the same dualcore without HT ...
Basically all the games that have quadcore as minimum requirement need you to have either Intel 2core+HT or AMD 4core ... So all the games that can utilise >4 cores can use the i7/Xeon HT because of its free context switch ...
You also forgot to mention that you can turn most X99 systems into Xeon workstations with ECC RAM. And if you have any -WS board it'll accept RDIMMs too.
The 5960x is 3x the price for 33% more cores that will run slower than either 6-core will even with OC. It's not a good deal even if you have money to burn.
For a start figure out what you're going to be doing with it.
I want to GAEMZ, I don't care as much about being future proof and I want to be inbetween 800-900$, with an R9 390.
Supposedly thats the best budget card rn.
gta 5 will never come close to using even 25% of a something like an i7-2600
more accurate than you might think...
it seems like after you OC, the 6600K and 6700K are doing the exact same in gaymen, even better than 4790K. skylakes are also cooler by several C. I think that if you're going to OC, 6600K is the best value.
playing porn games like artificial academy 2, watching streams, editing the odd video or image, shitposting, editing audio
that's literally it. I really don't play gaymes.
CPU matters fuck all for gaming. Especially in newer games that are better multi-threaded. I've run TW3 on ultra on an i7-920 and it never used more than 10% on any thread.
Even if it did, you're talking only about a 10-15% difference in speed between sandy bridge and skylake in simple programs like games. Only programs that are specifically designed for the new CPUs really see much of a benefit.
There is essentially zero reason for a home user to buy haswell or skylake. For gaming, a first gen i7 is already overkill, sandy bridge is only a good upgrade just for the PCI-e bandwidth, but anything beyond that is a waste of money for 99% of people on here.
If you do need actual cpu power, you could even build a 2 socket LGA 1366 server and grab 2 12 threaded X5650s for like $80 each, instead of spending $500+ on skylake and motherboard which won't even be as fast.
none of the other things you mentioned are especially hard on the CPU either, except video/audio editing, but it can be done on any decent quad core. I would only recommend getting anything near a 6700k/5820k if you did 4K video and/or short films... or if you stream while gaming and have a dozen things open for video capture, twitch, voice chat etc.
CPU guide 2016:
Is someone else paying for this (company / client)?
Fuck it, get the 6700k
If you're paying do you need IOMMU?
Get and AMD FX
Are you gaming with multiple GPUs?
None of the above:
Buy the cheapest intel shit you can find.
A bit, doesn't overclock much also.
Had to underclock mine with stock cooler but this was also before I started tweaking voltages/clocks so seemed like stock settings was fed too much voltage. got a 212 evo and managed to get it to 4.7ghz, but after upgrading some other parts it stopped being stable. 4.6ghz @ 1.236v currently, which isn't much over stock boost of 4.4ghz. Can run AIDA64 stress test and peak ~80c iirc
>choosing Skylake 6700K (consumer-tier bust) over Haswell-E 5820K (enthusiast-tier GOAT)
I seriously fucking hope you guys don't do this. 2 more cores, 4 more threads with a 5820K for a little more power draw and slightly slower single core performance (basically irrelevant since Sandy Bridge) for the same price or less than an overpriced 6700K setup.
The 5820K is the spiritual value successor to the 2500K.
Mine is only OC'd to 3.6 Ghz at the moment since I have no reason to push it more. 212 Evo, idles around 32 C and under my max actual load (streaming BF4) it gets up to 50 C after an hour or two. That probably has more to do with heat building up inside my Define R5 which I have sandwiched between the wall and my desk than any fault of the CPU.
There are people ITT that buys something that's actually made in ISRAEL
True, but what you don't realize is that Intel is so insidious, that it's done so to out-jew the jews.
Corporations based in Israel receive benefits that amount to essentially operating on the taxpayers money. In other words, Israel is paying Intel to have their R&D center be there.
They have achieved another level.
Supply and demand faggot. The 6700K's were out of stock pretty much everywhere at launch, and the price is just slowly going down.
Intel meant for it ti retail at $350. Stores drove that price higher.
I'd pick the 5820K, but only because I multi-task with some fairly heavy programs and would want the extra PCI expansion. It's not something that can be answered for you since everyone's use cases are different.
Depends on what you are doing. The best bang for buck in my eyes is the 5820k. You can get one with a good mobo for 360-390 from microcenter atm. Add $100 for DDR4, and you have a very capable system that overclocks well. At the same time, 2011-v3 had been confirmed for Broadwell E giving you upgrade options down the line. Socket 1151 will be dead in a year or so meaning limited upgradeability for the future. With 2011, you can drop an 18 core Xeon in it if you need the processing power.
Used 3770K. Or buy 5/6820K new. I would never pay for Skyshit.
>5820K 360 € 6 cores
>6700K 360 € 4 cores
Do I need to explain anything?
Also this. The Xeon is a good option if you need i7 power without Igpu and no OC.
What do you guys think about these?
If you want true price/performance, get an i5 4590. Overclocked CPUs are only generally 3-5 FPS faster, maybe 10 with serious liquid cooling. Usually retail for around $40-$60 cheaper, I got mine for $160 from Micro Center.
i just mean.. when you look at those frames. the stock 6700k sort of keeps up the entire time, so you could just buy like a $30 cryorig h7 and a less impressive motherboard, end up spending the same amount AND you got hyperthreading.
Not everyone is buying an overly expensive mobo and cooler. The question isn't whether the 6700k is better (obviously it is) but if it is justifiably better for the price (not so obvious)
Alright, this might be my most ridiculous dilemma yet
5820K w/ gtx 950 build ($1200)
6600K w/ GTX 970 build ($1000)
Is it worth going insane for the 5820K? I plan on using whatever I build for like 8 years.
Thank you based microcenter & combo deals. Barring some tax free, free shipping, massive sale etailer, I will always buy my CPUs from Microcenter. In a lot of cases even after tax microcenter is cheaper, albeit not all times.
I'm using an i5 4690 and I'm getting notified of a serious temperature issue. I think my CPU is the cause of some frame rate slowdowns in-game too. I have no clue whats causing this, it sure as hell isn't the paste or fans, as I replaced the paste and I have 4 fans pointed at the cpu on full
I'm not even sure if it is REALLY a heating issue yet, my BIOS tells me its automatically jumping straight to 94'C. It goes from 54' (already not a good temperature when idle at 800mhz) but instantly jumps up to 98~ in Core Temp. is it normal for CPU temps to jump that quickly?
i don't really remember, but haswells will randomly just start going to crazy temperatures because the motherboard is fucking with it and is basically frying your CPU or some shit. I don't remember enough
It feels like it may be a problem with the motherboard reading it incorrectly or some shit. either way, I may have to give intel a call and ask if the 4690s have a history of heating issues. If they can re-compensate me for it, I'll buy another 1150 socket cpu
>about to finally purchase my build
>6600K goes out of stock the moment before I order
i'm about to fucking cry
Maybe not via multiplier... I'm overclocking an E5-1660 here via FSB. Granted, not by much.
...wait, why would you buy a Xeon to overclock?
[bought the E5-1660 four years ago. Just looked around to upgrade, it seems it's still the fastest WS processor. Not that I'm complaining, but WTF?]