"Why don't more people use Linux? You can even run Windows applications in WINE! Even video games! You're out of excuses, use Linux!"
I've been a die-hard Linux fan since 2009. And I'm going back to Windows.
The latest League update 100% broke compatibility with WINE and Linux. Starting a game yields absolutely nothing. Clicking the system tray icon, even less than a second after (re)launching the game, yields a 'game abandoned' screen, offering to launch into... nothingness.
Really stable shit you got here, folks. Awesome operating system. Absolutely astounding how stable and usable it is.
And don't give me that "there's paid support if you look for it" bullshit. I even offered over 1,500 people $100 to anybody who could get it working. No takers. And do you honestly think Red Hat will support League? HA!
Enjoy your no market share. Peace.
$100 for some neckbeard to spend 5 minutes configuring whatever horseshit? Sounds to me like the application itself matters not. League or OpenOffice, $100 is $100.
I never asked for anybody to care. I just presented the following point: Linux does not run the applications consumers demand, and so it will never attain any appreciable desktop market share.
This post reeks of /v/. Why is it here? So you can't run your shit game on another OS that it was developed for. Better blame the other OS for it and do it on 4chan. Good thinking, that should solve it.
>And don't give me that "there's paid support if you look for it" bullshit. I even offered over 1,500 people $100 to anybody who could get it working. No takers. And do you honestly think Red Hat will support League? HA!
I don't even know what this was. Are you trying to hire "some neckbeard" to fix it for you even when they have nothing to do with the developing company? That's not support. If he had anything to do with the company then it would be supported. Now it's just hacking.
Those systems are servers, right? Running server applications, like a web server, storage server, a DNS server, maybe even a virtualization... server?
How many desktops do you oversee, that run desktop Linux?
I was hopefully looking for someone like >>52624920
who is absolutely, positively, convinced that League works 100% no problems whatsoever on this trash heap you call an operating system.
And prove him wrong.
I run GNU/Linux on my desktop at home.
Sure, I might not play LoL, but I can play other games just fine (ie. DOTA2, Metro 2033, etc.).
I've never encountered a problem with GNU/Linux on the desktop that didn't take more than 5 minutes of Google-fu to fix.
He might use or know someone who uses Linux to play it and it works perfectly. It's pretty fucking unlikely that you both have the same distro, same hardware and same drivers. You might not even have the same version of WINE. If it doesn't work in your case it's not a checkmate for you to yell how it can't possibly work on anyone's machine. That's why developers need to support things, so the range gets bigger.
Use Linux For web browsing, grey hat, black hat and anything you dont want the NSA to be arresting you for.
Use windows for videogames and white hat areas'
Run 2 computers man,
Linux can handle simple video games, it can even handle complex video games. There's even a chance that it runs video games that were never made for it.
If you think Linux can't handle actual workload you should educate yourself on supercomputer top list and what OS they run. Linux has practically no limits when you actually want to do something with your hardware. The only limits come from developers. You can ask developers to support Linux or create a similar game for Linux. Linux isn't handcuffing you.
That's been my point the whole time. I don't want to go back to Windows. I'm just sick of my colleagues braying on with "Gah why don't you people just use Linux gall". It's not a fucking be all end all.
So stop pushing desktop users onto Linux! For this purpose, it's horribly broken!
A VM isn't a dual boot, now is it?
Why would I bother with any of that when I can just install Windows and have a machine guaranteed to work the first time, every time, no questions asked and with no bullshit?
Nerd cred? No thanks! My time is far too valuable.
This entire thread is a wonderful example of what the open source community calls "community support", where you are chastised for not searching. When you prove that you did search, you are chastised for daring to run an application not blessed personally by RMS. When you point out that this is ridiculous, you're simply assumed to be unintelligent for not being willing to debug the fucking kernel to run a video game you play when you get off work to fucking unwind.
>A VM isn't a dual boot, now is it?
Correct, that was the whole point.
>Why would I bother with any of that when I can just install Windows and have a machine guaranteed to work the first time, every time, no questions asked and with no bullshit?
If the computer is for windows gaming, then Linux is terrible choice.
If the computer is for anything else, then windows is a terrible choice.
I have a feeling you want to plays windows games.
Go directly to jail. Do not install gentoo. Do not collect $200.
>Community support for "Waah my game isn't working, I will give no details! Linux sucks you guys!"
Go rub your crystal ball and see how to fix that. Except that OP didn't ask for it to be fixed, it was just a blog post about video games. What was the support for, again? GPU passthrough and dual booting was still mentioned as a tip from /g/ anons. Woah, that really makes you look like a moron. Good thing you are anonymous.
One. One Windows video game. The rest all have Linux binaries.
So your solution is to duct tape some VM fuckery or heaven forbid dual boot for one game?
Typical Linux engineer solution. "it works but you gotta configure this and tweak that and download this and sacrifice that to this daemon with that pentagram"
>So your solution is to duct tape some VM fuckery or heaven forbid dual boot for one game?
>Typical Linux engineer solution. "it works but you gotta configure this and tweak that and download this and sacrifice that to this daemon with that pentagram"
It is more insidious than that. VGA passthrough is so painful and hackery, that by the time you get it running, the desire for video games will have passed.
Your options for playing a Windows-only game:
1. Try to run it in Linux like the rest of your software and hope it works anyway, even though it's Windows-only
2. Install Windows on dual boot for that one game
3. Install Windows on VM for that one game
4. Wipe everything and replace it with Windows for that one game
5. Stop playing that one game
BONUS OPTION: Ask developers if they could make a Linux version of that one game
>switched to linux in order to play a game in wine
Wincucked to the MAX!
>Research maxing out the computers power with calculations
>Not really using their computer.
In all seriousness, you're complaining about a windows program not running in Linux.
It's impressive wine works at all.
There are plenty of games on linux, and it's not the fault of the OS that League doesn't release a port.
tfw switching betwen linux and windows periodically only to play games on windows
i literally can't find another windows usage
League sucks anyway. MOBAs suck. Shit, video gaming sucks.
Just don't play video games, if you can help it. If you must, get a console or handheld and play with your friends.
PC gaming is dead.
> I installed Linux to play Windows games
I am so fucking tired of telling retards like you not to do this... You shouldn't have installed Linux in the first place you artistically retarded nigger.
I switched over to windows 7 from ubuntu about a month ago. You're doing the right thing OP, linux has always been and always will be a half baked OS. We've literally waited over 10 years for this shit to improve and very little has changed.
It wasn't easy for me and I wish linux would magically get better but we all know that shit's never gonna happen.
I use Windows for games and music production software. Linux for everything else. I would like to explore music production possibilities on Linux, but there's no way it can come close to what Windows offers.
Why are you expecting a Windows game to work on Linux, like why is something not made for Linux supposed to be guaranteed to run through Wine. Linux does what it's supposed to do, and it does it really well. If LoL is so important, then go ahead and use Windows, but don't act like it's your OS's fault that something non-native doesn't run. If LoL had a Linux port, it'd run fine.
If you're trying to run Windows programs on Linux, then you should probably reevaluate the reason you're using Linux in the first place.
Sure, Linux doesn't have the support of the game industry.
More of a circle, IMO.
>game companies see making games for Linux is too much hassle without alot of benefit, so they make for windows, and maybe os x.
>people see games are being made for windows so they use windows because more developers make for windows.
Fortunetly, Valve is trying to break that circle by introducing Steam to Linux. If they succeed, and the Linux community supports this, developers might consider building to Linux as well.
Just needs a bit of time.
>We've literally waited over 10 years for this shit to improve and very little has changed.
Good job if this is bait.
If not, you are fucking retarded. Go use windows to play your games. Your games compatibility with an OS has nothing to do with its performance or stability. People make games for the OS the OS doesn't make itself for the games. Go download microbone-bonzibuddy10 edition and enjoy your Gayming experience.
>Crying about gaymen
>windows programs dont run in linux, so linux sux
>offering to throw money at neckbeards to fix it for you
>implying the OS should support programs and not the other way around.
The programs you want to run are not made to be run on linux, THAT is the problem and the program developers have to fix that.
if windows or osx were open source (fully) i wouldn't be using linux.
linux is objectively worse than both--but I don't like nsa botnet etc.
you'd have to be in some pretty serious denial to believe otherwise. Case in point: every new tech that's being integrated into linux has existed for years on win/osx.
>My time is far too valuable.
So valuable you spend it shitposting on /g/ because you don't want to use an operating system that is not designed for someone like you to use in the first place.
Why don't Riot learn from fucking blizzard? Every game of theirs work flawlessly on wine, and LoL works like a piece of shit. Even if they ever port LoL to linux, I'm 100% sure it'll be a fucking wrapper.
Most adobe products don't work. Photoshop just barely works, but it's slow as hell, and crashes a lot. It's a nightmare to setup too. And 64 bit doesn't work.
Wine is crap except for older software or certain software which isn't really integrated with other software, or with windows itself.
Nothing professional works with wine. Case in point: Adobe CC. CS6 collection (which is getting quite old, and many artists/clients don't use it anymore) doesn't even work--apart from a very flaky photoshop 32bit.
I could go on and on, but it's not like anyone in here actually has a job producing actual real world tangible things.
Diablo 3 has some known issues (e.g., cursor can fuck up for nvidia users on multi-monitor setup and HotS is known to have horrendous frame rate on some setups regardless of settings, but Blizzard does pretty good.
SC2, WoW, HS and their old games play really well with no extra config.
Linux on the desktop is about 10 years behind.
Systemd copy of (mac) launchd
Wayland compositos copy of DisplayPS, or more recently Quartz.
Audio (all of it) is crap. OSX and Windows have worked correctly with audio forever, including auto-switching audio out.
GUI tools are still a joke. Pinning OOP on top of C in gnome--just wow, shit, MUI on amiga was doing that 20 years ago. QT at least is semi modern, although everyone seems to think its somehow less desirable than gnome/etc.
And so on. It's a joke, but I still use linux because it's open.
I'm mainly waiting for Haiku or AROS to mature enough for day-to-day use.
>Systemd copy of (mac) launchd
It really isn't, you obviously know nothing about either....
>Wayland compositos copy of DisplayPS, or more recently Quartz.
Nobody except Wayland developers use Wayland
>Audio (all of it) is crap. OSX and Windows have worked correctly with audio forever, including auto-switching audio out.
This is the only thing true
yeah, they aren't similar AT ALL.
I've adminned osx/mac and linux and bsd servers longer than you've likely been alive, kid.
Haiku and AROS have features that linux STILL doesn't have (that are stable).
For instance MUI/Zune as a unified system API in AROS, BeAPI in the case of haiku, multithreading gui apps as a first class feature, not a bolt-on, GUI as a first-class UI, not a bolt-on and so on and so forth. Not to mention low latency audio/video etc.
Don't even get me started on X11/Xorg/xlib and all the new bolt-ons. And wayland/compositors...yeah. A fucking joke.
Want proof? Get some crappy old G4 mac mini and run MorphOS on it. It's got features that are more than 20 years old that STILL make linux loook like a joke. A crappy G4 a 1ghz outperforms the audio/video of linux on a modern system. Not to mention all the features it has over linux as a desktop. But that would require some investigation on your parts, you linux zealot children. Get some fucking perspective.
Linux is the best-of-the-worst on PC hardware in the realm of openness/security--but that is IT.
Use the proprietary driver. Noveau is shit because nvidia doesn't release any kind of documentation and the team has to basically guess how nvidias drivers and hardware work.
Seriosly why? I used Foobar2k on windows and now use deadbeef. Just use clementine if you want something similar to iTunes. UE 4 and the editor was ported afaik and somehow works best on funtoo/gentoo.
That's already in the works, UE4, unity, source 1+2 and even the new cryengine (kingdom come deliverance comes out on gnu+linux) have native support now.
>those spergs w/ excuses
Linux is garbage. G A R B A G E.
People only use it because it's free and because they can shitpost about it on this fucking cancerous board.
No good software exists of Linux. It's a timesink for neet nerds who want to circlejerk in desktop threads.
Once you grow up, you'll realize I am right. Windows is better for work.
Yes, deep down you know I'm right. Stop making excuses, don't even bother replying.
almost all the sysadmins that work with me (I'm a senior dev) uses macbooks and osx as they have to get their shit done and all you need is a nix system with ssh, you can even be a linux admin using windows... also underpayed if you're living in murica
>all these angry cunts over obvious bait
>blame users instead of looking at why users complain just because users don't think like "developers" or "power users"
No wonder why Linux doesn't go anywhere in desktop space. Linux are forever deemed to be mainly for workstation and server use.
If you wanna play games why the fuck wouldn't you use cracked Windows 7? Do you really care what some faggots on /g/ say? Linux is great for laptops imo. If you have a new system and use linux you're actually braindead retarded.
Why is every single complaint about linux because of developers not making binaries of their favorite programs for linux? I'm not crying that ps4 games don't work on my PCs and nobody would take anyone serious complaining about it either. Why is it suddenly ok when winfags do it with linux/bsd/mac? You people are retarded, but gtk is too.
>No, it CAN be pretty good when maintained by serious people with sense of purpose rather than /g/. Just look at RHEL and supercomputers.
Linux when it's not on the desktop is fine.
We are talking about the desktop here.
"Why don't more people use Windows? You can even run Linux applications in Cygwin! Even video games! You're out of excuses, use Windows!"
I've been a die-hard Windows fan since 2009. And I'm going back to Linux.
The latest League update 100% broke compatibility with Cygwin and Windows. Starting a game yields absolutely nothing. Clicking the system tray icon, even less than a second after (re)launching the game, yields a 'game abandoned' screen, offering to launch into... nothingness.
Really stable shit you got here, folks. Awesome operating system. Absolutely astounding how stable and usable it is.
And don't give me that "there's paid support if you look for it" bullshit. I even offered over 1,500 people $100 to anybody who could get it working. No takers. And do you honestly think Microsoft will support League? HA!
Enjoy your market share. Peace.
1/10 bait, I replied
>playing games on Linux
Even most Linuxfags will tell you you're stupid for doing that.
Either run Windows applications in a VM or dual boot, but otherwise accept the fact that you are using shitty hacks to get software to run in conditions it wasn't designed for and whatever associated risks come with that.
i don't know what the fuck "league" is, but this sounds like it's the league-people's fault. from what i gathered in this thread there's also a native linux variant called dota, which wikipedia tells me was there first anyway, so why not play the original (if that is indeed the case, as i said i'm completely oblivious to any of this)?
I actually got this working eventually, and even played LoL with it.
>mfw had to give up LoL because suck internet
Of course my ancient nVidia 7900GS wasn't doing me any favors either...
Depends on where you live but 60k a year is great. If you're in a shitty city no amount of money can make that better. But if you're in a nice rural or even suburban area 60k can get you a nice house in a nice area without issues.
>Die Hard Linux fan
>Linux is for neckbeards
So your saying some windows game software broke when run on linux? Man its like maybe it shouldn't be written for windows in the first place then you wouldn't have to use wine to emulate bullshit software.
"I am a strawman! This never happened! I am making a ridiculous statement based on my preconceived notions of how Linux was going to be!"
I've had Ubuntu installed on a separate partition which I never use to feel like a 1337 h4x0r since 2009. And I've never stopped using Windows because of muh video games.
A single update gave me an excuse to remove Linux from my computer, and I'm going to justify my opinion by making a thread about how you also shouldn't use Linux based on my needs. I'm from /v/ by the way, here's my problem, please be my tech support and I'll consider gracing Linux with my presence.
Even though it's used on servers around the world, the ISS, the Darpa robotics challenge, and hollywood rendering for its stability, clearly it's unstable because of a single update that breaks software that I personally use and don't know how to fix.
And don't give me that "there's paid support if you look for it" bullshit. I don't even know how that works. No brains. And do you honestly think I know the difference between an industrial grade Operating System with experimental desktop support and a system I should actually be using for my purposes? HA!
Enjoy your appeal to popularity. I'm saying goodbye but I'm not leaving this thread because I'm butthurt.
Not only that, he 'has been a die-hard user of linux since 2009' but this is a new and surprising turn of events for him somehow
Translation: 5 Rupees has been deposited into Pajeet's shill account
ITT: Retards who can't into virtualization.
Even BSD can play your little kid toys. You can pay people all you want (hint, they get paid more than a hundred bucks for less if they know how to debug on *nix), but you can't pay people to cure your natural stupidity and entitled attitude.
>Linux has more zero days than both osx and Windows.
Of course it does.
Within the Linux kerlen and a working GNU/Linux distribution, backdoors are considered security bugs.
On Windows and OSX, backdoors are considered privileged access and not bugs.
Therefore Linux having more 'bugs' is understandable.
Cool story sir, but who Linux to play games...
If you have been using linux since 2009, why didn't you convince people to play HoN instead of leage of legends?
It had linux support from the start, clearly better graphics and gameplay if you are into dota derivatives.
Or dota 2 which also work on linux although it came out a lot later.
3/4 of the dota clones work without problems, why did you choose the one that didn't work?
Two posts above you.
Only thing I never got around to fixing was the latency from the emulated audio. I just bought a recent video card, so I'll probably start screwing with it again.
My friends want to play games with me.
HoN and LoL came out around the same time. We quickly talked about which to go for and playing a game on both platforms, HoN was a clear win.
It did cost $10 dollars at the time but it was just more fun. and it worked on all machines.
>playing league of lesbians
>not playing dota2
>not getting highest competitive prize money there is
>playing game with terrible game mechanics
>raging like a typical cancerous lol fag
yeah about that kid. if you don't understand what wine is, what it's based on and how it works and then complaining that linux is shit, just means that you are a dumb nigger-pseudo-neckbeard-jew
Not OP, but I started playing LoL in beta and there were no similar games available (discounting DOTA, but the WC3 player base was waning).
When HoN finally came out, it was not free-to-play and DOTA2 was even later to the game.
Due to the above, all my habits formed around LoL.
I suppose I should check out HoN since Soraka keeps getting pushed further from healer support, but I don't play games much anymore.
Also not OP. You're making quite a few assumptions. Like many others (not here, but others), I have a day job. I'll just let that sink in for a moment. What this means is, of course I don't play for the highest competitive prizes, because I'm not a fucking South Korean autistic fucktard whose only marketable skill is League of Legends. It's just a game I play when I get off work to spend time with people whose company I enjoy, and that includes my champion.
I haven't played HoN in a long time but they made it free to play and the quality went down.
Back when it was free to play it didn't cost that much (I think it was $30 and went to sale really often to be $10)