Found these in an old box of CGA / EGA video boards I bough recently.
All three of these cards match nothing I have found on their particular model numbers, one has bodged on components, and the other two have a mostly socketed design, with one of those two having an unlabeled EPROM.
I don't have manuals or even an appropriate monitor to test these with, unless the RCA jacks on the end are actually RF / AV connectors.
One of the cards (A Video7 model of some sort) had a General Electric logo and inventory number stamped onto a label attached to it.
Thoughts? Ideas? What should I do with these?
>I paid $16.95 for the whole box, can post the rest of the box if requested
I have lots of old computers.
Dinosaurs, some call them.
When you have an old computer that works perfectly fine for the task it performs, why throw it out?
>pic related is my home office
by the way, I am a collector of this rubbish too
Nice lucky 7s!
>triangle of Pentium computers
I'd really just like to know what they are in detail so I can make a decision appropriately.
Only reason I posted about it here is because I'll get faster replies than Vogons, and I was banned from WinBoards.
I'm thinking they might be prototypes, but I've got no clue.
What makes it sad?
>desu the only sad part about it is that people walk into this room, see this, and ask if I'm building a rocket and this is my control deck
It is, it's a bedroom converted to an office.
Central AC makes it 400000% better.
IT Crowd? Haven't heard that term before.
In all honest, not as much as people claim.
All the "gold" is generally on the CPU and inside the more needed components - RAM, North & South bridge, etc.
It's an overblown myth, for every CPU I own there'd be about a pound of gold for all around ~250 pounds of components.
It's not really worth it, considering ow much I paid for some of these systems back in the day, comparing it to how much I would get from the gold.
>What makes it sad?
That is literally the bottom barrel of technology jobs. You'll max out at $50k a year and end up bitter and angry because of peoples stupidity.
Aim higher anon, aim higher.
Anon, are you sure those are RF/AV connectors? I have a few cards like that (along with like 20's of 286/386/486/p1 boards and a lot of other stuff) and i tried connecting them to a tv for testing purposes without any result.
Now since components from 20+ years ago are fucking sturdy (the only non working boards i had were the ones with the battery leaked all over), i dont think all the cards are dead (as a matter of fact, two of them look new, without a trace), so there must be something else.
Also the fact that you couldn't find anything about them online doesnt necesserily (i hope i spelled that right) mean they're prototypes, i didnt manage to identify my own either, since back then everyone was making hardware (like everyone wants the piece of android cake now and we have shitty chinkphones from noname manufacturers or smartphones from forgotten brands like alcatel)
i hope you're still there, anon
Many have designated jobs.
Mostly menial tasks like being a firewall, a sort of extention cord for things, and even one who's primary purpose in life is to simply keep a monitor on, but some get the big jobs, like DVR, media handlers, and even primary and secondary backup structures.
I'm still here, don't worry, I've been replying to a lot of people here, actually.
The cards may not be dead, but I still can't use them until I get a correct monitor.
As I said in the OP, I wasn't sure if they were AV /RF connectors, but since some CGA and EGA boards do have said connectors, I thought a plausible idea.
I've never seen cards like this, and they bear the traits of a prototype board, so I thought that they may be some.
1. Power consumption - Newer, cheaper hardware runs just as fast but doesn't destroy your electric bill
2. Space - Which you have very little of with all those midtowers crammed in there
Actually, space isn't really an issue. they're spread about the house.
Power consumption doesn't make any sense, since most of these computers run on 85W(!) power supplies anyways.
It's an AT monitor, so it needs the PSU pass-thru to stay on.
It is (when everything goes right, that is)
>I don't have manuals or even an appropriate monitor to test these with
you can try to hook it up with an oscilloscope and check if you get a steady signal or just noise or nothing at all
I literally dropped out of the uni so I never tried the oscilloscope with video signals and wouldn't know what to expect, but it should be pretty obvious if the thing is working or not.
I wouldn't mind a "fix this, fix that" job if I didn't have to work directly with customers. Tired of fucks that think I should spend hours fixing their computer for free. Nobody has any respect for computer workers desu.
Chicke 'em - whatever system they worked with is long gone and so would be any software. RCA jacks had several uses (audio, video, coaxial digital (which that ain't!)), but those uses are decidedly low-res compared to todays cheap miracles.
I checked the total hardware 99 page for one of the cards i have (video seven) and for those connectors it says "undefined"
i have an EXPERT GEGA 480 (Gemini VC-001 chip) card and a Genoa SUPEREGA HIRES+ (Genoa GN006002 chip), plus video seven vega deluxe (i checked with my hardware list) and the info on those connectors is nowhere to be found. Maybe the dip switch settings enable/disable these?
I also found this, its some video seven manual, says something about needing optional feature adapters for RCA or something, i didnt bother reading too much:
http://www. minuszerodegrees . net/manuals/Video-7%20Enhanced%20Graphics%20Adapter%20%28VEGA%29%20-%20Users%20Manual%20-%201985.pdf
hope it helps
Those don't look like prototype cards, one of them is just a regular EGA wonder, the other two are just regular C&T cards. Socketed designs were common since it was more economical to replace a failed chip than buy a brand new card.
>Newer, cheaper hardware runs just as fast but doesn't destroy your electric bill
This is only true for like NetBurst shit, most of the shit he has in that setup run slimmer power supplies than most modern shitboxes and have CPU power consumption of maybe 20-30 watts max.
Why is this thread full of so many spergs anyway? Who cares what he does as long as he enjoys it? What's the point of money and space if you aren't using it on things that make your life more meaningful and happy? Working with old hardware is wonderfully educational compared to just dicking around with a VM or a cheap SBC, and you develop a better appreciation for hardware as it was yesterday and how it is today.
exactly what i was thinking (not OP), back then things were made to last and be repaired rather than thrown out
Do you know anything about the RF connectors or about how to hook them up to a regular tv via AV cable?
Considering you can get a miniPC that takes up 5-10 watts at most, I'm definitely not convinced an ancient power supply that probably runs at ~50% efficiency due to age and poor components is that great.
Always someone like you that shows up when someone posts their old computers hobby. Why does it matter to you that someone is interested in using old computers?
To me tinkering with an old 90s computer is a lot more interesting than some RPI.
Here's a manual for the larger card on the right of your OP pic.
You should test the boards too on a modern motherboard with ISA to see if they work
also OP: Is there a way to get in contact with you, say email? These prototype cards are interesting and I'm looking to get the schematics traced.
If you will it to happen
If you have the money for it to happen
It will happen.
There's a 5170/AT in the back. Don't have a pic on hand, but it's there (in parts, at least)
Looking into that now, yes.
I had no idea a 12MHz 286 could take 20-30 watts!
OP here, actually:
No clue if they're RF/AV, haven't tried yet, but they can't possibly be outputs.
The real tip off that made me think prototypes was the open EPROM window and all the botched on components.
But I'm not into self-harming...
Haven't tried yet. I'll look into it and post back, if thread is still alive.
Problem? There are uses for such machines that no Linux trashbox could handle without the same hardware.
Modern and ISA shouldn't be in the same sentence.
I do use the systems daily, but not for work in most cases.
Work is done on the Pentium 4 at the back with the printer.
My thoughts exactly!
Pic related is the longer card (front).
I require the model number of this board!
pic related is the front of the board.
If you're talking about the card, it's an ATI EGA Wonder, ATI's first real general availability video controller AFAIK, and their second overall.
The mainboard I got from here http://www.interloper.com/products/product-details.php?productid=115510&cat=400
Don't think they'd be of much use to people like you and me though, unless you're down for writing some drivers.
>the number of botches on this card is astounding for something that was put into production
I'm not planning on using these cards unless the other 9 die somehow.
Not looking for graphics, just text.
>Is there an ISA MFM driver for Windows 2000/XP/7 for that motherboard?
There's likely a driver to support the chipset, however these boards are mostly made for industrial applications where they likely have programmers or companies still supporting machinery driven by ISA controller cards.
However, maybe GNU/Linux systems can drive the old EGA cards? Who knows, there were early 386 systems that did ship with them.