So anon, we had to let go of your other team members, but we managed to hire some new people anyway!
Meet your new fellow programmers!
>so anon, we need to diversify and improve our enterprise, so we're firing you, Jeff, Bill and your respective teams. Pajeet, Ranjeep and Bikash will do everyone's work for 1/4 of the pay of a single employee. Ain't that great? Here's a complimentary box to put your stuff in, now please vacate the premises
This is when you start looking for a new job immediately.
Not because they're Indian, but because your company only needs you around to train the new people before they replace you as well.
If you're smart you'll wait until they replace you with another indian so you can collect unemployment, then you can answer the question honestly and say you were laid off due to outsourcing.
smart companies won't lay you off, they'll find any reason to fire you
if you get laid off, you're entitled to unemployment benefits and the company pays for that in their payroll taxes
Is this talking about American benefits?
Do you guys seriously need "permission" from your employer (i.e. not quit) when leaving a job to get unemployment benefits?
This seems potentially open for abuse by an employer.
were you ever employed in a big company?
they fire people randomly all the time.
I once worked for a big frozen food comp and they kicked out ~100 people. at the same time they found out that 4 guys have been stealing gas from a huge tank for years. the bastards got greedy and started selling it instead of just getting enough for their own cars.
so they kicked out the thieves but didn't sue them and didn't make their names public. now there were 100 jobless people who had the hardest fucking time finding a job because everyone suspected them to be gas thieves. company didn't give a shit.
I keept my job even though I was the shittiest worker and slept half of my working hours.
You can get fired anytime (or contract not renewed) in Aus' but even if you quit or steal or fight the boss and get sacked unemployment benefits start the moment you sign-up minus owed vacation and backpay adjustments.
No sane person kisses their bosses arse here...though there are natural submissives in every country regardless of rights.
It's the cost of true freedom. European countries grant freedom to workers, but heavily restrict the freedom of employers. While this makes the workers happy, companies are far more thorough in their hiring process since it's nearly impossible to fire someone without a lawsuit. As a result, countries like England have seen a massive decline in full time employees and a rise of independent contractors and part-time work. Companies have very little interest in hiring full time employees when the law makes it so difficult to fire or replace them.
On the other side of the pond, the U.S. has discrimination laws but otherwise any employment contracts are a contract between employee and employer. If the employee gets a better offer at another company, they leave. If the employer doesn't like how the employee works, they replace them.
I actually had this happen, except with a mechanic shop chain. They came through and fired all the part timers because they were sure we were just hogging up payroll and dicking around. A month later the full time guys were being forced into 70 hr weeks.