>Yeah Brenda, see the material your companies makes available to customers from my location is complete horse shit, which leaves me with two options. I can either use a vpn to browse your site from a location with a better selection or I can cancel my service. Never mind Brenda, you invasive cunt, lets go ahead and cancel my service.
>Blacklisting my IP The same IP i've changed 7 times this past week >Cancelling your service AKA, literally exactly what I asked her to do
I guess i'll just have to sign up with a new address every month and enjoy your service for free...or stream the episodes online...or torrent them in 1080p.
That's my point, and why Netflix is being so coy with this shit. The technology to ban vpn's and proxies has been around for the past 10 years; if they wanted to implement it they would have but they wont and they'll only take half assed measures because
>1) If they do no one will want their service >2) Customers already have the option of torrenting >3) Customers already have option of streaming >4) Customers already have option of gaming the system by signing up for free
Netflix knows they have to compete with traditional media and not their own client / customer base.
>>52589757 just say you have no idea; netflix don't really care if you use a VPN and they certainly won't try and "investigate" into a paying customer's connection unless you make it obvious you're deliberately doing something dodgy.
a bit of background for you alleged "technology" board users. Sorry for everyone who already knows this, but it seems a lot of you don't.
Netflix is under pressure from rights holders to enforce some kind of bullshit distribution rights to certain countries, who cares about the details. But netflix also knows that the stricter their enforcement, the less paying customers they have and the less money they make.
So to keep the content producers happy, netflix has to make a token effort to catch VPN users. They do the bare minimum that they can possibly get away with, so they can show they are not complicit with VPN use. Hence Brenda's question which should have been the easiest thing in the world to get past, she and all her managers are making it as easy as they possibly fucking can for you to access their services with a VPN, without technically allowing it or encouraging it. And the rights holders should be fucking thankful that they do this, because anyone with a VPN who pays for content is supporting the industry when they could just be getting everything for free and not giving two shits. It's a buyers' market, and Netflix understands this, even if the rights holders somehow do not.
>>52590468 >Hence Brenda's question which should have been the easiest thing in the world to get past, she and all her managers are making it as easy as they possibly fucking can for you to access their services with a VPN, without technically allowing it or encouraging it.
This sort of stuff comes up all the time. Aliexpress can't endorse the sale of fake luxury products etc. and will fuck you if you post them but all you need to do is black out the brand names and not refer to them by name and you're clear
You guys realise it is not necessarily just Netfix arbitrarily fucking you in the ass right?
I live in New Zealand and we only just got our version of Netflix. It is super fucking gimped out of content because Sky and TVNZ lobbied the shit out of the government and cucked Netflix out of half their content they were even allowed to have on their service.
Also, fuck Sky and TVNZ. I sure love waiting until 7.30 pm on the dot to watch a two year old movie that has an hour+ of ads in it. So great.
>>52590929 did you mean mbit/s? I don't see the problem anyway, do you think when you're streaming rather than torrenting the movie comes out of a parallel universe or something like that? streaming is literally downloading little pieces and playing them as you download the rest, no difference from torrenting except that once you finish a torrent it will stay in your hard drive forever, while the streaming movie gets automatically delected when you close the browser tab, besides if you have a shitty connection you have even more reasons to choose torrents, because streaming HD videos on a low speed connection is almost impossible, unless you don't mind the spinning wheel interrupting whenever you're enjoying watching something.
>>52590468 So what's Netflix's excuse for making people pay the same price while offering less? you can't pretend that people in European countries pay the same price of US countries when they get to see only less than 20% of content available to the US users, it's stupid to even try to justify this bull shit. Netflix is exploiting the good will of people outside the US who bother to pay for a subscription when they could find a download link a few clicks away with any search engine.
>>52591122 >what's Netflix's excuse you're not paying a few cents for access to each title. if you were, by the logic you need to justify them charging less in the EU given the limited library, then you'd need to accept arbitrary, abrupt price changes each month as the library shifts and changes as a result of deals with rights holders. but we all agree that would be awful.
their pricing scheme isn't that complicated. it shouldn't be confusing you.
>>52591143 >then you'd need to accept arbitrary, abrupt price changes each month as the library shifts and changes as a result of deals with rights holders
I'm ok with that actually, it's not that hard to create a system like this, Netflix should keep advertising the same price as always (the US subscription price) but when it actually comes to transactions, the bill should be reduced based on the unavailable content.
They can create a system that counts the total number of minutes of content available in the US which would be the 100% of available content, which costs 9,99$ (or whatever is the US price I dunno).
For example if the total number of minutes offered in the US were 1 million minutes, we have this:
1 mil = 100% = 9,99$ (let's round it to 10,00$ for this example)
Then count how many minutes each other country gets to see. Let's say that in Germany only 150k of minutes are available:
150k = 15% = 1,50$
This should be the price that German users deserve to pay this month.
Let's say that next month Netflix obtains licenses for another 50k minutes of content to stream in Germany and at the same time adds 100k minutes in the US:
>>52591261 this is why people study psychology and economics. customers would see fluctuating prices and think that they could be taken on a runaway train. see a fixed price and fluctuating *value* (in other words, fewer or more titles for the same $9.99 rate) and that doesn't feel as dangerous.
Being autistic and running the numbers might be super pleasing but don't mistake it for sound business judgment.
>>52590623 Fuck Sky so much. I'm pretty sure they're throttling my connection to ~0.3mb/s or less now (past midnight at least) I've told my mum how extortionate they're being, and how much fucking cheaper she could get all the same services for (and much quicker speeds etc.) But she's too stubborn to switch, and just entered another contract with them >and then flips out at me for leaving the lights on when I'm not in a room Guess I need to stop being a NEET fuck and leave
>>52590178 >Netflix don't really care if you use a VPN so what all the companies that give them money for ads don't care if many of the people that see their ads aren't even in the regional demographic for their products?
>>52591039 >Utopia The guys that made that are great.
It's funny how the only television worth watching here is actually funded by the government (through the ABC and SBS) rather than the corporate interests that are pushing for the international rights shit anyway.
>>52591409 bitching about this is retarded for two reasons. for one thing, complaining about how people perceive things is like shaking your fist at clouds.
but for another, trying to assess the value of the library on an individual basis is insanely stupid. i'm not going to watch everything, so what matters is the content i'll actually want to watch.
and if netflix had a direct incentive to license fewer titles (which is the mechanism you're advocating), they would only license the mainstream shit that appeals to the lowest common denominator. everyone would lose. prices would be lower, but it's because they'd only bother to license shit that 90% of subscribers would sit through. the vast majority of titles under the current regime don't need that kind of viewership for the system to work.
The other day i had a girl over and she wanted to watch House of Cards or some shit so she boots up my Chromecast and logs in with her Netflix account, only to get it terminated and her bank charged. She got mad and accused me of hacking or spidering or something equally retarded to her account.
I have a VPN set up on my home network that everything goes through, and i don't use Netflix. i torrent, because fuck your shit.
Anyway, apparently she has never used her account on anything but a US IP. So Netflix locked up her account for signing in from an IP that they couldn't even resolve the geographical location of.
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