>>52577489 >better keyboards than most other laptops doesn't feel as good as a Model M or anything, but it's much nicer to type on (and easier to type accurately on) than typical chiclet boards. The ones on Macs are especially awful and I don't know how people stand them.
>repairability You can just go and download a complete teardown guide that tells you how to remove any piece of the thing and reassemble it afterwards. It's fairly easy to find parts or junker machines on ebay from businesses upgrading. These things aren't true for many other models of laptop. They're also fairly durable to begin with.
>Linux support Linux generally just werks on them
>cost A used one isn't expensive at all, considering how much you get. Again, because of businesses that buy the things by the trainload and then later upgrade. There's a lot of supply in the market.
>aesthetics It's like the exact opposite of the Apple look. Black instead of white, loads of ports instead of hyperminimalism, function over form instead of form over function. Some of the newer ones aren't as good, though.
Hi guys, I'm looking for a laptop. I'm gonna use it for programing and 3D stuff. What thinkpad do you think I should get? I was thinking in a Macbook pro because I hate lenovo keyboard design even if it is more useful than macbook's keyboard... But if thinkpads are better (I'd like to dual bot Linux)
>>52577692 Well, it really comes down to whether you want to run OSX or Gnu/Linux. Linux has great support on thinkpads, less so on a macbook. Macbook's still have problems on Linux in terms of dpi. The x220 is a great portable thinkpad, with a modern enough proccessor that it isn't painfully slow. But if you are doing 3D graphics, you probably want a GPU, which is also a pain on Linux.
What do you hate about thinkpad keyboard design? Almost everyone agrees that they are much more comfortable than the mbp keyboards. There isn't much point using Linux AND OSX, because they both provide a unix environment. But dual booting windows and linux on a mbp is still possible.
>>52577763 Yes, I meant if I get a thinkpad I want Linux too. But not in the mbp. 3D basic stuff (I already have a good desktop at home). I was almost convinced with mbp but I really like thinkpad design (kinda old fashioned, which I love). Maybe lenovo's keyboard are very useful but I don't like curved form at the bottom of the keys. Ugly as fuck, I'd rather have a more squared keys, or mechanical keyboard inspired.
>>52577867 X220 or earlier, or T430 are really the best models to buy. New thinkpads, with the new keyboards, just aren't as good. The new models have fucked up keyboards and touchpads, trying to be stylish. They also simply aren't as durable as the old style.
You don't want to be buying new, go for a well treated second hand/refurb.
What should I get if I need a good, top-performance laptop? Right now I have an X1 and it's utter crap. Thanks god I didn't pay a dime for it and got it from my workplace for free. X220 doesn't cut the bill anymore - I need something with way more speed.
>>52578081 >What do you need speed for? I'm doing software engineering & various types of security-related research for a living and I travel a lot (otherwise I'd just stick to my 5-monitor workstation). Getting and SSD is obviously a great idea, but I need a stronger CPU as well
>>52578107 Fair enough. I can generally still handle medium sized projects in intellij on mine, but I can see how things would get choppy beyond that. An SSD really improves things in so many ways though.
>>52578107 You should be skilled enough to setup an automated build server on a remote computer. My laptop is weak as shit but I can use to develop software because I've found ways to offload the heavy processing to my high powered personal server.
>>52578299 You dont understand, the beauty of those thick brick thinkpads IS travel purposes You fucking try accidentally breaking one of those old thinkpads You can't Not every piece of tech has to be 5mm thick faggot, you compromise so much build quality
>>52578340 Wish my fucking laptop would break. This old beat-to-shit Gateway just keeps trucking. I've dropped it half a dozen times, once from about three meters, and the bitch won't break. I cannot justify replacing the thing until it dies.
>>52578409 There is nothing of value an ultra-thin laptop can give you that you can't already get out of your smartphone. It will not have the power to engage in heavy-duty computer work. You'll browse the web, play some videos or music, and check your eMail/social-tracking websites. If you are concerned about compactness, just bring a smartphone. Or a tablet if you really need the screen real-estate.
>>52578458 >There is nothing of value an ultra-thin laptop can give you that you can't already get out of your smartphone.
The most trivial example I can think of is writing text. It doesn't have to be code (which is practically impossible to write without a keyboard) - writing more than a few lines of plain English text without a physical keyboards is an utter waste of your time.
And for what it's worth, even the thinnest Ultrabooks are fine for compiling & running small software projects.
>>52577489 i like the meme. the x230 is a perfect size+weight for me and the keyboard is the best i've ever used on a laptop (haven't tried a _20 series). the looks are nicely utilitarian and understated. Honestly, I also like the sekrit club feeling I get when someone recognizes my device and commends my taste, especially professors.
>>52578644 So much autist cred from using a thinkpad. I pull it out at uni and people will compliment me on my shitty 4 year old second hand $200 laptop. Meanwhile everyone and their mother has a mbp, and noone cares.
>>52578679 >>52577958 So let me get this straight: this Thinkpad is not a Thinkpad because it's not designed by IBM? That's confusing because the brand says otherwise. Shouldn't you distinguish between "IBM Thinkpads" and "Lenovo Thinkpads" to promote clear thinking?
got my t420 blaze it after my old laptop broke. >cost me only 200 bucks, >it's a fucking tank that would probably survive a nuclear strike >I can switch out almost any part myself and I can get any of those parts for a couple bucks >nipple fingering
>>52578910 I have a T60p that I bought just to have. I definitely recommend running a lightweight Linux distro on a machine like that, and upgrade to an SSD too. It'll make a good shitposting and document editing machine, maybe play some lightweight indie retro games, but that's about it (which admittedly is plenty for a lot of people).
I've never understood the love OP. Sure the older ones were fucking awesome, but nowadays the latitudes fucking crush the cheap ass lenovos. I've got two E series lats and they are built far, far better than my last chinkpad.
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