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PHP to finally embrace the code of conduct
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What project should be targeted next?

http://paul-m-jones.com/archives/6214
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>we want everyone to be equal therefore we must enforce a set of rules that claim some people are more equal than other people instead of forgetting about the fact that we're actual people since all we know about ourselves are our internet handles.
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wow so tolerant
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>>52546457
>girlz are not welcome in muh sekrit klub
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>>52546511
that's exactly the opposite of what i tried to imply.

oslo thanks for the pic, i used to bait pol with it but ive lost it
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>>52546511
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>>52546328
Why are normies trying to spoil all the fun of autist developers? Don't they realize that if autists can't work the way they want to, their work is absolute shit?
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I don't care. Still writing with php what I wan't, not giving a fuck about sjw bullshit.
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>>52546328
Target everything about FOSS, please.

That will make life easier for us who see /v/idya as pure commodities to create and trade according to our visions and means. But just a little bit. Because we git gud already.
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>>52546581
Fall of the Roman Empire. It doesn't matter if humanity get wiped out as long as it's all politically correct. They're not normies either, just autists on the opposite end of the spectrum.
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>>52547045
>Fall of the Roman Empire
Don't overblow it. It didn't "disappear" overnight.
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>>52546581

Do you actually think these crybully social justice wankers are "normies"?
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I'm seriously tired of this. Out university organizes a bunch of shows that we have to go to and they are always like this.

We had one today and it was about the origin of rock and roll, basically they were playing a bunch of songs on banjos and shit but that's mostly irrelevant.
Towards the end however they said this. "But those are all just men" about all the previous songs and they framed the last song, the only one made by a woman, as if it was some sort of godsend.

Tldr banjos are technology.
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>>52546965
How does killing FOSS make life easier for gamers?
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Ruby is discussing this as we speak.
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004?utm_content=bufferdb181
At least Matz is smart enough to see through this facade.
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>>52549093
Idunno, lol! But it would be funny to see a dogfight between two groups I care little for.

*nix FOSStard: Come over to our code jam. We drink beer, discuss security and code.
Me: Thanks, but no thanks. I'm shy.
*nix FOSStard: Come over to our code jam. We drink beer, discuss security and code.
Politruk: WHY ARE YOU MEAN TO WEST AFRICAN ONE-ARMED WOMEN WITH SCAFIALITIS?
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>>52546511
Aren't you SJWs all about not judging people based on their appearance?
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>>52546328
I am so glad none of my projects are large enough that people think there should be a CoC.
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>>52546511
>>>/tumblr/

fuck off sjw
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>>52546511
isn't the code of conduct basically "boys aren't welcome in programming anymore"?
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>>52550418
>contributor covenant
AHAHAHAHA
is this actually a thing or what?

this is just about the dumbest shit I have read all year so far
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The PostgreSQL CoC actually looks pretty nice. I'm surprised there's anybody with a lick of sense anymore.
http://www.spinics.net/lists/pgsql/msg165105.html
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>Examples of unacceptable behaviour by participants include:

>The use of sexualized language or imagery
>Personal attacks
>Trolling or insulting/derogatory comments
>Public or private harassment
>Publishing other's private information, such as physical or electronic addresses, without explicit permission
>Other unethical or unprofessional conduct

so we can't use PHP for hate against any people of any kind?

why do SJWS have to ruin FUCKING EVERYTHING?!@
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>>52551355
>>Other unethical or unprofessional conduct
>>Personal attacks
>>Trolling or insulting/derogatory comments

these are vague enough that they can be abused.

For instance, your comment is sarcastic, therefore, it is trolling.
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>>52551355

>tripfag

filtered, thanks!
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>>52551355
>>The use of sexualized language or imagery\

Is that slutshaming?
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What was that project from a few months ago that enacted CoC that disallowed discriminating against people that can't code?
Kinda insane.
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>>52551355
>Personal attacks
>Public or private harassment
Just imagine
>Sorry anonette I've run some tests and it looks like anon's code is a lot more efficient so we'll be using that instead
>STOP HARASSING ME YOU SHITLORD IT'S AGAINST THE COC
>nobody's harassing you I just think that--
>VICTIM BLAMING FUCKING GAMERGATE patreon.com/anonette
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>>52546511
Why don't you take a look at yourself virgin
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>>52551397
i'm sorry?
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>>52550674

Autism in a nutshell.
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>>52546328

>sjw

The answer to a question no one asked.
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>>52550418

Ruby on rails already adopted this.

http://rubyonrails.org/conduct/
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Daily reminder shitlords
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>>52550947
No, they're about being hypocrites. And hating on cis males.
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>>52551355

>so we can't use PHP for hate against any people of any kind?

You can, but you can't contribute to the PHP project if you violate the code of conduct.

Odd, in a way, these projects survived (even thrived) without all these captain-save-a-hoe rules.
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>>52551785
Wow.
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>>52551805
>Odd, in a way, these projects survived (even thrived) without all these captain-save-a-hoe rules.

Not a bit odd. These projects existed and thrived because the main goal of the team was to develop a software, not to care about the snowflakes feelings.
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>>52551396
>B-but that could be potentially abused

Yes, and a law which makes murder illegal will inevitably end up getting an innocent person arrested. Just because there is potential for abuse does not make these rules completely unacceptable.

>>52551397
Were you triggered? Are you aware that the real world doesn't have filters? Maybe you SJW crybabies should stop trying to create safe spaces!!1! /s

>>52551428
Nice meme.

>>52551537
>Oh look, rules preventing general asshattery, better imagine the WORST POSSIBLE HYPERBOLIC SITUATION

Yes, people can abuse rules like this, it doesn't mean these rules are unnecessary. It's a code of conduct for an online group that wants to be marginally productive, maybe you should grow up, put on some big boy pants and realize that not every website in the world should moderate like this Chinese cartoons board.

>>52551805
>Everything was fine before

And now they're adopting rules to make sure people aren't complete dicks, boo hoo.

And my personal favorite post in this thread...
>>52551851
>If only everyone could be a hardcore internet surfer like me. Ensuring basic decency is for fucking idiots, I'm an internet master edgelord who can handle anything! Get on my level!
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>>52552048
God you are the fucking worst
you almost, ALMOST understood what the big kids were talking about, then you just had to chime in with your dumb shit
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>>52551795
cis WHITE males
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>>52552122
You seem a little mad. Being the evil feminazi SJW I am, I carry a ready supply of tissues in case I get triggered. Would you like some?
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>>52552122
That is such a good bait that I'm afraid that poster is actually retarded.
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tl;dr

Can someone give me a non-biased summary of the CoC without buzzwords?
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>>52552362
It's just about not being an asshole but 4chan can't have that.
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>>52552407
/thread
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>>52552362
Thoughtcrime - OSS edition
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>>52552468
>without buzzwords
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>>52546511
gr8 b8 m8
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>>52546511
Are those German nationalists holding French flags? top kek
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>>52552468
This, actually.

How come none of you faggots can correlate what is happening in our world with the one proposed by George Orwell in 1984?
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>>52552561
>He mentioned 1984 in response to a private organization's rules

Good bait, but you'll have to try a little bit harder if you want to get a ton of replies.
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>>52552482
Being not allowed to voice or communicate your opinions on any channel, private or public, or else be sanctioned with exclusion from a community, threatened to lose your job sounds exactly like that. All in the name of safety and for the greater good(tm), without providing any evidence that said rules actually improve a problem or that the problem even exists in the first place.
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>>52552604
>private organization's rules
>rules made for the public
>for OSS
well rused, matey.
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>>52552626
>Being not allowed to voice or communicate your opinions on any channel, private or public, or else be sanctioned with exclusion from a community
So what, they're closing down comments and emails?
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From the reddit link in the article: https://i.imgur.com/NqbFoqK.png

Am I unknowingly in an 8gag thread right now?
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>>52552534
Must be from Alsace or Lorraine.
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>>52552604
>it's not dystopian when our private corporate overlords do it!
This SJW bullshit would be the dobbing in the neighbours bit and the beginnings of thoughtcrime. We've also got the telescreens happening with "smart" tvs and backdoored firmware in our computers.
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>>52552639
And ostracizing those who oppose or break those rules.

>>52552604
Sure, this is bait, but I will bite in the sake of the argument.

The private corporations control most of the things we depend on and they also have huge influence in politics.

The so called code of conduct is being mentioned in software developing now, but it will eventually spread to other fields.

But by all means, go ahead and shill SJWs if that is what you believe is right.
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>>52552681
This kind of shit right there is why we don't have accounts here.
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>>52552727
>And ostracizing those who oppose or break those rules.
If they're shutting down discussion then it won't even be possible to break the rules.

Look, I know you're not being completely honest here. I asked for a summary of the CoC, not what you think the ramifications are going to be. If you don't want to answer me that's fine but please stop giving me shit I didn't ask for.
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>>52552750
Holy shit, reddit does suck
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>>52552750
>>52552786
8gag pls
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>>52552777
>I asked for a summary of the CoC, not what you think the ramifications are going to be
Read the damned thing, then
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>>52552837
I didn't force you to give me a tl;dr. I'm asking you stop giving me your opinions as fact just to further your own agenda. You're not that different from the SJWs you complain about.
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>>52552881
>>52552837
Just saw that you're a different poster nevermind what I said
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>>52552048

3/10 trying too hard
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>>52552362

Practically all their guidelines are written such that they are up-to the enforcers interpretation.

>The use of sexualized language or imagery
>Personal attacks
>Trolling or insulting/derogatory comments
>Public or private harassment
>Publishing other's private information, such as physical or electronic addresses, without explicit permission
>Other unethical or unprofessional conduct.
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>>52552881

>being too lazy to read a little bit
>having an opinion worth something

lol
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>>52553032
>a little bit
That shit in the OP's like 2000 word opinion piece.

>>52553030
Thank you.
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>>52552362
Just read the fucking RFC, faggot: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/adopt-code-of-conduct
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>>52553030
That's my biggest issue with all these code of conducts. They're way too woolly and non-specific to serve any practical use. Honestly any sexualized language is against the CoC? If I say I fucked something up will I be banned? Fuck is a sexual term. If someone writes shit code and I say this code is shit am I banned? It's way to easy to abuse and I think it contributes to a bad atmosphere that would take away normal human interaction based on fear.
I don't have a problem with having a code of conduct but it has to be more specific than what I've seen in most of them. Most of them serve no practical purpose other than to suck out the fun of programming and install a culture of fear. It's not good at all.
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>>52552048
>I support preventing people from contributing based on anything from their political views to whether they trolled someone before
>I compare murder convicting an innocent person to something so ambiguous it is incredibly easy to exploit
>Behavior is more important to me than quality
Lay off the koolaid cuck
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>this blatent psyop fronted as social justice shit again

I don't know what you think your endgame is but they are using you too.

>don't get it
stop shitposting.
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>>52553094

2000 words is not much, go back to twitter where your opinions actually matter
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>>52553125
>If someone writes shit code and I say this code is shit am I banned?
Yes. If it's a female's or any POC or something, you're double fucked.

This shit is HR getting to the management.
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>>52553155
Did you somehow missed the part where I said opinion piece part?

2000 words IS a lot for this case. I don't want to wade through endless irrelevant bullshit just to find whatever it is that I'm looking for which may or may not actually be in there.

Fuck, I don't even know why I'm bothering to talk to you.
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>>52553192
>>52553113
take a look what php proposed, I guarantee you it's not at all opinionated
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>>52553125
>culture of fear
You mean like the one you put on us? Trans women like me fear submiting code because of your inhumane meritocracy. Just last week a straight white cis male rejected my proposal for more inclusive pronouns purely because he quote "doesn't care". I would fork but I don't know how to use git and nobody would use my version due to monopoly of the original project.
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>>52553250
>I guarantee you it's not at all opinionated
Because it's your opinion. Christ, can you fuck off already?
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>>52553192

It's strange how you're lazy about reading not much yet want to expend energy shitposting. Perhaps with a safe space you could be more sure about your motivations.
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>>52553125

Here's the thing, if you look at the people who reply supporting the PHP code of conduct they've not contributed anything to the project - their profiles show their previous login as being in 2011 or around there, and to top it off what little projects they have are generally trash - one thing they all have in common however is that they all contribute to the CoC.

See for yourself.
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>>52553293

>Trans women like me

lol?
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>>52553293

>I would fork but I don't know how to use git and nobody would use my version due to monopoly of the original project.

Giving evidence that "nobody cares"
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>>52553341
Dealing with retards like you is fun
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>>52553364
>>52553370
Is this what autism looks like?
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>>52553374

And reading code of conducts isn't fun, because they're boring and useless. Much like you and your reading ability.

>>52553395

No, you're looking in a mirror.
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>>52553293
This has been one of the funniest posts on g I've seen all month
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>>52553395

What about your autism?
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>>52547127
last light of the roman empire ended with the fall of the city of trebizond, ruled by an emperor with the only remaining direct succession from augustus, to the ottoman empire on the eastern side of the black sea in 1462.. AD, yes 550 years ago. everything between about 200 ad and 1462 was a horrible, long, slow, rough decline.
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Who the fuck cares about PHP in 2015?
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>>52553319
Did you fucking read it so you can take your own conclusions, nigger?
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>>52553868

Apparently feminists.
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>>52546328

Paul Jones was very intricate in his reply and something that I would expect from a "normal" person.

I cannot believe what the fucking blimp that authored that RFC is saying. Are they for real?

To be honest this sums it up best >>52546562
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