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/flt/ - Friendly Linux (or GNU/Linux) Thread

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Previously on: >>52510909

Read the picture.

Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try Linux, you can:

1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)

Before asking, please find the answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.

Resources:
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
https://www.codecademy.com/en/courses/learn-the-command-line
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
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What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux
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Just saying Linux gets comfy after you set up everything you need.
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Randomly my keybinds will revert from KP_ to home number row mods.

Setup to be
Mouse button 1= KP_1
Mouse button 2- KP_2

But randomly it changes
Mouse button 1 = !
Mouse button 2 = @

Changes happen during the same user session at random intervals between those settings.
Mouse configured as follows
remote_id=$(
xinput list |
sed -n 's/.*Naga.*id=\([0-9]*\).*keyboard.*/\1/p'
)
[ "$remote_id" ] || exit
mkdir -p /tmp/xkb/symbols
cat >/tmp/xkb/symbols/custom <<\EOF
xkb_symbols "remote" {
key <AE01> { [0xffb1] };
key <AE02> { [0xffb2] };
key <AE03> { [0xffb3] };
key <AE04> { [0xffb4] };
key <AE05> { [0xffb5] };
key <AE06> { [0xffb6] };
key <AE07> { [0xffb7] };
key <AE08> { [0xffb8] };
key <AE09> { [0xffb9] };
key <AE10> { [0xffb0] };
key <AE11> { [0xffad] };
key <AE12> { [0xffab] };
};
EOF
setxkbmap -device $remote_id -print | sed 's/\(xkb_symbols.*\)"/\1+custom(remote)"/' | xkbcomp -I/tmp/xkb -i $remote_id -synch - $DISPLAY 2>/dev/null
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Anyone have any aliases to share? :^)
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>>52518976
none for you :^)
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God I really want to fuck my long distance gf's pussy right now.

> inb4 cuck
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>>52518998
i know we welcome mac/osx users, but seriously fuck off cucko
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Does linux support touchscreen?
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>>52519018
if youve got time to compile shit
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>>52519018
y'know I'm not sure, but given how epic the wacom support is, I have a hard time imagining it not supporting touchscreens
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>>52519017
i have windows 10 with my annual $60 norton antisecurity, cccleaner pro, and malwarebytes pro protecting me from any possible threat online.
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>>52519018
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/41pm26/got_a_touchscreen_laptop_what_to_use/

So it would seem Gnome 3 and Unity work just fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8d8mAAgkgo
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>>52519018
android does
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>>52519071
http://www.badumtss.net/
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>>52519066
This is cool.
Gnome and Unity are desktop environments right? which means I can install them on my preferred distro of linux
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>>52519109
That is correct.
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>>52518976
alias ,='pushd "$PWD"'
alias ,,='popd'

alias -- -='cd ~/Arbeitsfläche' # . is a shell builtin.
alias ..='cd ..'
alias ...='cd ../..'
alias ....='cd ../../..'
alias .....='cd ../../../..'
alias ......='cd ../../../../..'
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>>52519133
Noice.
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>>52519120
Thank you
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>>52519147
You're very welcome.
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my old aliases for systemcukd
# systemd aliases and functions

listd() {
echo -e ${BLD}${RED}" --> SYSTEM LEVEL <--"${NRM}
find /etc/systemd/system -mindepth 1 -type d | sed '/getty.target/d' | xargs ls -gG --color
[[ $(find $HOME/.config/systemd/user -mindepth 1 -type d | wc -l) -eq 0 ]] ||
(echo -e ${BLD}${RED}" --> USER LEVEL <--"${NRM} ; \
find $HOME/.config/systemd/user -mindepth 1 -type d | xargs ls -gG --color)
}

# systemlevel
start() { sudo systemctl start $1.service; sudo systemctl status $1.service; }
stop() { sudo systemctl stop $1.service; sudo systemctl status $1.service; }
restart() { sudo systemctl restart $1.service; sudo systemctl status $1.service; }
status() { sudo systemctl status $1.service; }
enable() { sudo systemctl enable $1.service; }
disable() { sudo systemctl disable $1.service; }

# userlevel
startu() { systemctl --user start $1.service; }
stopu() { systemctl --user stop $1.service; }
restartu() { systemctl --user restart $1.service; }
enableu() { systemctl --user enable $1.service; }
disableu() { systemctl --user disable $1.service; }
statusu() { systemctl --user status $1.service; }
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>>52518752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bVDQ4rVrM4
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>>52518976
alias mk7z='7z a -t7z -m0=lzma -mx=9 -mfb=64 -md=32m'

alias mkdir='mkdir -vp'

alias mktar.gz='GZIP=-9 tar cvzf'

alias mnt='sudo mount -o loop'

alias umnt='sudo umount'
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>>52518976
calc()
{
bc <<< "scale=10; $*"
}
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>>52518976

gpl()
{
cat << 'EOF'
This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version.

This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
GNU General Public License for more details.

You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
EOF
}
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Guy who can't start xfce4 in arch here.

Tried to change permissions of the .xinitrc file, added my user to the users grup, still not working.

Like I said, this used to work weeks ago, I just log in and typed exec startxfce4.
Now I need to do any order with sudo and THEN type startx.
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>>52518976
alias sudo='sudo rm -rf /'
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>>52519401
So you 'chown <regular user> </path/to/xinitrc>'?
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>>52518752
How do I throw a sexy theme on my terminal?

I have the default terminal emulator for Xubuntu and it looks like le dogshit.

If you don't tell me I'll wake up this deer.
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>>52519109
I don't know why anyone would use Unity on anything besides Ubuntu though.....
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>>52519421
if you want a terminal you can rice to fuck and back, check out terminology
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>>52519418
No I used chmod 755 ~/.xinitrc.
Trying this right now.
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>>52519412
Very convenient, thank you.
alias cat='dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
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>>52519451
And an apostrophe at the end, of course.
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>>52519418
>>52519445
Didn't work.
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>>52519451
i wonder if anyone ever just takes code off /g/ ,without reading it ,and runs it in their systems
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>>52519466
use the last resort of a desperate man and chmod 777
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>>52519466
just to clarify:
you ran chmod +x /path/to/xinit
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>>52519472
I certainly hope not.

>>52519466
Is your user in the video group?

Also, a poster suggested "I always create a .xinitrc without sudo under /home/$USER. Try creating a new .xinitrc and just put exec blahblahblah in it. Nothing else."

On a side note, does anyone else absolutely fucking hate this new captcha system?
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>>52519478
Didn't work.

>>52519519
>Is your user in the video group?
No it is not. I'll try to add it.
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>>52519421
Install urxvt. Read the arch wiki page about rxvt-unicode. Rice it via ~/.Xressources. There are some online theme generators, as example: http://terminal.sexy for different terminals.
Read a bit how to configure your PS1, but to behonest, all PS1 rice ends up with a plain $.

Pic unrelated, just drop it here.
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alias cp='cp -iv'
alias rcp='rsync -v --progress'
alias rmv='rsync -v --progress --remove-source-files'
alias mv='mv -iv'
alias wat='pacman -Qi'
alias clog='pacman -Qc'
alias update='sudo pacman -Syu'
alias install='sudo pacman -S'
alias rm='rm -iv'
alias rmdir='rmdir -v'
alias ln='ln -v'
alias chmod="chmod -c"
alias chown="chown -c"
alias pacmancache="sudo pacman -Scc"
alias youtube="chromium --app=https://youtube.com"

if command -v colordiff > /dev/null 2>&1; then
alias diff="colordiff -Nuar"
else
alias diff="diff -Nuar"
fi

alias grep='grep --colour=auto'
alias egrep='egrep --colour=auto'
alias ls='ls --color=auto --human-readable --group-directories-first --classify'
alias pacrepup='sudo reflector --age 8 --fastest 128 --latest 64 --number 32 --sort rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist'

That's some shit I use quite frequently, don't know how helpful they would be to you.
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>>52519445
Lets try this
Delete /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
Delete /home/<user>/.xinitrc
sudo pacman -R xorg-xinit
Log out
Log in(you're at just the tty terminal dont startx as it isnt installed yet)
sudo pacman -S xorg-xinit
(you should be in your user directory)
sudo cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc .xinitrc

Delete
twm &
xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &
xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 &
exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login

At the bottom add.
exec startxfce4
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>>52519109
Be careful with Unity as it can be quite a bit funky on some distros like Debian and Arch.

Actually, just use ubuntu if you want Unity.
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>>52519546
Will this delete my xfce4 configuration?
Also, I might need to leave the computer for a while, I'll come back to the thread soon and try this out.
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>>52519597
So adding yourself to the video group didn't help?
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>>52519597
This is only changing your xinit config.
Your xfce should be located elsewhere
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>>52519607
It didn't.
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>>52519615
Cool. I'll try this in like an hour when I get back in the thread. Sorry for leaving, hope you guys are still here when I get back. Thanks for the help.
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Reposting this from old thread.

I have this problem on several distros; the 'find' command almost never works the first time. It ends right away, then when I execute it again, it actually starts looking for the file(s) I want.

Any ideas or similar experiences? It's done this on Linux Mint, Arch, Ubuntu and Debian for me so far.
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>>52519734
What disk are you using?
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>>52519734
post a reference command, never had problems with find here.
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>>52519444
>>52519539
Thanks and thanks, I'll do research on both of these
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>>52519844
Sorry, don't know what you mean.

>>52519849
sudo find / -iname(/name) FileName
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>>52519987
Physically, what is the storage device that you are running find on?
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>>52519997
Internal HDD.
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>>52520030
post the output of hdparm -i /dev/sdX
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>>52518752
how do i into virtual machine?
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Arch babby here, is the install process of gentoo more difficult than installing Arch? Should be the same, plus compiling time, non?

Best guide on this?
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>>52520338
It's more difficult because you have to manually configure the kernel, as opposed to Arch where iirc the kernel works once you install it.

It's a good system for being able to make your OS specific to your hardware and make it be more efficient, and I'm already used to Portage so I'd rather reinstall Gentoo than install Arch.

Gentoo is a better OS than Arch; if you have a few days to burn you should try it.
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>>52520367
>Gentoo is a better OS than Arch
Pacman; nuff said
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>>52520436
Portage is widely considered the best package manager, though, even by people who don't regularly use Gentoo.
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Something related for Linux?
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>>52520490
why would you do that to yourself?
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>>52520473
You should consult your community a bit more friend
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>>52520473
Cough, cough.
Apt-get.
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>>52518752
Guys I goofed hard

My computer says >>Start PXE over IPv6

After I tried hopping distros, I think I goofed up the BIOS

What do?
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>>52520490
I'm pretty sure google has something.
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>>52520636
Disable PXE netboot in your biots
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>>52520645
Ty kind anon it just werks now
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Linux is such a cluster fuck that it doesn't even have DTrace.

Nice toy OS, guys.
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>>52520719
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Where would the best place be to learn more about Linux and the terminal? Finished the coarse on Codecademy, but feel still missing it. Any recommendations /g/?
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>>52520779
http://arpinux.org/public/books-man/linux_complete-command_reference.pdf
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>>52520338
yes, but not significantly, there's a bit more than just the added time of compiling

also, installing arch is piss-easy
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>>52519412
Good shit, fixed my network connection
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>>52520779
Pick a project and jump right in
Find something interesting on the wiki an go at it.
You're going to learn at more doing it then just reading it
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>>52520779
>Finished the coarse on Codecademy
now it's time to move onto the fine
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>>52520779
are you using a gnu/linux distro or trying to learn from codecademy on winblows?
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>>52518976
Some know me as Zero Cool
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>>52520779
What I did was just wait until I needed something done, then looked up how I could do that from within the terminal. I got the hang of it really quickly.
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>>52520828
>mixing up aliases and handles
bro, do you even hack?
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>>52519546
I'm back.

At the moment I try to sudo pacman -R xorg-xinit I get an error, it tells me that xfce4-session needs xorg-xinit.
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>>52520840
>a handle isn't an alias
Good Sir, do you even vocabulary?
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>>52520842
sudo pacman -Rd xorg-xinit
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>>52520842
Same error. Should I try -Rsc?
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>>52520891
>>52520883
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>>52520824
Partitioned and installed Fedora, not hard, but it just works. Only issue I have had is mouse acceleration but I just found a script online, and wammo.
>>52520836
Same, but I would love to accelerate that process, not super intense but just a little faster ya know.
>>52520798
Downloading, any particular ones that you would recommend? Or any that are more helpful than others?
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Downloaded the ranger file manager.
Trying to get the ascii art preview to work, tried and failed. (Been fiddling with conf files and downloading packages for 2 hours by now.)
Could any of you /g/ents that have ascii art enabled show me your rc.conf, scope.sh, and a list of dependencies your ranger uses?

Using Gentoo with the urxvt terminal and the fish shell, if that matters.
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>>52520903
>>52520891
Did -Rdd
Rebooting.
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>>52520798
1st paragraph:
No part of this book shall be reproduced, copied, or transmitted, electronically, mechanically, or otherwise without expressed consent from the author.
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>>52520910
http://bash-hackers.org is pretty good when it comes to write good, compatible code.
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>>52520957
Who cares, the book is noob friendly and pretty complete.
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>>52520946
Didn't work.
I bet it has something to do with Xfce4's config.
I'm close to giving up and just live giving a sudo order and then startx.
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>>52520979
But anon... muh freeeedummmssss..
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>>52520910
HOLY SHIT, I linked the wrong book.
Get this one: http://arpinux.org/public/books-man/the_linux_command_line.pdf
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>>52520985
make a new user and try the same proccess
Dont transfer your xfce configs just add exec startxfce4 to .xinitrc
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>>52520779
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dhcpcd randomly cuts out sometimes, and I'll have to

sudo dhcpcd -x
sudo dhcpcd
sudo dhcpcd eth0


Why is it doing this and how can I make it stop? About to just switch network managers desu.
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>>52521002
So I made a new user and added it to wheel.
Uninstalled xorg-xinit and reinstalled.
It worked. so what is wrong with my user? This stuff used to always work until like three days ago.
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they actually deleted op pic lol
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>>52521565
I'm late to the thread, what was it that the mods would want to delete?
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>>52521574
Some poorly drawn girl trying to pleasure her computer.
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>>52521574
Picture of a naked 2d girl grinding on her computer, explaining to her mother that tech support said to "turn it on".

Sort of wish I'd saved it.
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>glance at htop
>see "rtkit" in user column
>shit bricks

>google it
>it's nothing to worry about

and to be fair, naming a rootkit "rtkit" would probably be dumb as fuck
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>>52521595
Get 4chinsX
Convenient links to archive

https://rbt.asia/boards/g/img/0525/18/1453255949915.jpg
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So I've been compiling chromium for 2 hours and it's still not done. Using an FX-8320.


Has my gentoo gone retarded? or should I just let it keep going.
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>>52521687
Let it keep going.
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Debian testing here on a ThinkPad x230. Just upgraded the kernel (for some reason it was stuck at 3.16 and I had to specify it manually) and also xorg (version appears to be 1:7.7+12) came directly after.

What I'm trying to figure out is why now when I do a right-click with the trackpoint, the context menu doesn't pop up immediately. I have to drag my mouse up or down (depending on where I am on the screen) to get the menu to appear. What I don't understand is why - I've been at it for a couple of hours. Some searching seems to indicate some vague change was made for clickpad compatibility. If somebody can just point me in the right direction, I'll go from there. I'm just not sure even what keywords to use.
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>>52521634
It wouldn't be that weird considering I've encountered byXnDaYhax.dll malware. Some people just don't like being discreet.
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>>52521854
Possibly disregard I suck cocks. This appears to only be an issue in Chromium.
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does something like pic related exist for xfce?
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>>52522143
http://xfdashboard.froevel.de/
Maybe ?

I searched for "xfce gnome like activity menu" and this was the first thing I saw.
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I have installed xfce for linux mint and now power controlls are gone and displays turns off every 10 minutes
wat do to?
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>>52522245
Can you start it up from the terminal with "xfce4-power-manager" and make adjustments?
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>>52522265
It appears it wasn't installed
Thanks :3
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Has /g/ ever collaborated/made a distro?
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>>52522300
cheers, m8
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Dammit anons, what do I do if every new laptop comes preinstalled with Botnet10?

Actual question, I have a brand new 32GB Cdrive preinstalled tablet/laptop. Should I try to dualboot linux? is it even possible? should I just wipe it completely and put linux mint,etc on it.
maybe it's /g/ but I'm afraid to even turn it on.
can someone post the things to do to a win10 to make it kinda safer
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>>52522385
Way too many times. And it failed, like all /g/ projects because we're not better than the pooloo's.
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>>52518752
I'm using Arch linux and it hasn't been recognizing usb drives since an update. modprobe doesn't work, searching available partitions shows it simply doesn't see them.

I can still use my keyboard and mouse on every usb port, so it isn't the port. I can use the USB drive on every other computer in the house (Windows).
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>>52522614
Have you tried reinstalling something like Udisks2 ?
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>>52522614
>>52522725
G V F S
V
F
S
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>>52522725
I have, to no avail.
>>52522728
Same.
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>>52522771
Does it work in the fallback kernel ? Or the lts at least.
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>>52522779
I have the fallback kernel but I'm not sure how to specifically probe for USB devices using it.
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my home partition had errors in it but its a samsung ssd how does that happen?

pic related but it wasn't causing any noticeable problems just telling me to fsck it every time i booted. should i be worried?
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I'm experiencing something rather strange with my wireless card.

>firmware - iwlwifi
>distro - Antergos
>tool - netctl

Connection initializes fine on boot-up. I can surf the web perfectly okay.

After letting the interface idle for a few minutes (aka stop browsing the internet for a while) the namespace resolution shits the bed.

I can still traverse sites by ip. Nothing shows up on dmesg. ifconfig insists that the connection is alive and packets are being exchanged.

Everything's fine except that I can't traverse sites by their names anymore.

I don't even know where to start tackling this problem. It all seems absolutely insane and improbable.
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>>52522385
https://install-logos.github.io/
https://github.com/install-logos
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3e69fa5202d10f9325c3de90e3e8830637184a9c&dn=logoslinux-2015.03.13-dual.iso&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969
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>>52522143
its called mission control in mac os so search for that
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I am running the longterm 4.1.15 kernel from kernel.org.
There was a story yesterday about an exploit having been found and patched but I do not see any updates?
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I livebooted Fedora 23 on a laptop last night. Today I was going to use the same stick to install Fedora on my desktop (got a new SSD) but instead of prompting to start Fedora, it asked me if I wanted to boot or install Ubuntu.

Now, a friend did use the same USB stick to install Ubuntu on his new laptop a few weeks back. And when I put Fedora on the drive with liveusb-creator, I didn't wipe it. Still, this all seems mighty strange.

Any thoughts on how this could be a thing?
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>>52523692
ur vulnerable
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>>52523746
It happens.
Format the USB drive first, then write the installer to it
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>>52523746
Update: I put the same stick back in the laptop. It boots Fedora, so it's not that I'm unwittingly drunk and used two different ones.

>>52523775
Yeah, it's not much of an issue, but I'm curious. How come one computer boots Fedora and the other one Ubuntu?
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>>52518752
Can I boot from a USB? And is there a Linux that supports touch yet?
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i want to add a 20 GB partition to my main disk, but everything is taken up by an lvm partition. i removed some stuff in there and there is now 27GB unallocated in it. is there any way to move that out of the lvm partition to make a regular one? pvmove --alloc anywhere /dev/sda3:(free blocks) ran but didnt do anything....
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>>52523916
yeah booting from a usb is really simple, and i think most popular distros support touch. i might be wrong though, i dont have a touchscreen.
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>>52519243
The cup is now half filled with milk and will taste like shit, but hey at least it looks pretty!

Nice mkdir alias especially though, cant think of a time when you wouldn't want to create parents dirs.
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>>52523692
>Debian, *buntu, manjaro and few other distros do not have this vulnerability :^)
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>>52523692
Patched just means the necessary changes have been made to the source code, so updates are available only if repo maintainers have actually done their job.
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My sound sounds really fucked up with the "out of the box" Arch drives.

Is it the drivers or my hardware? I can't really know this is a brand new desktop.
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>>52524535
I think i found your problem
>Arch
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>>52524535
Pulse?
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what echo $SHELL /g/ has?
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I have major google chrome slowdown when I type in address bar. I presumed it has to do with autocomplete and prefetching resources so I turned everything off. I heard somewhere that those services actually start to load page before you hit [return] but turning them off didn't do anything. I am using fast PC with 6GB of RAM so it cant be hardware problem i hope..
Is there something I can do about this locally?
People reported same problem but I never seen anybody that had the solution.
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>>52524970
bash
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Does anyone have a script that checks the most common colors in your wallpaper so you can make your terminal match? I remember seeing one floating around a while ago.
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>>52525793
find the guy with stocking(psg) wallpapers in desktop threads. he definitely has it.
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I've gotta use Ubuntu for a course. I want to rice it a bit. How would I go about making the terminal borderless (As in just a simple box without any title or shadow)? I really like that clean look to my GUI but the shadow and header on it are sort of ugly to me
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WANNA DO A SIMPLE TEST TO TEST FLT SKILLS

How do I check if my hard drive has failures?
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>>52518752
www.geek.com/apps/25-year-old-bash-shellshock-bug-could-be-more-dangerous-than-heartbleed-1605349/

>critical bug not patched for 25 years
>muh open sores
>muh everyone can look trough the code to find bugs
>muh neckbeard hobbyists are smarter than security experts
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>>52526053
# smartctl -t short /dev/<device>

or for better results (but considerably slower)
# smartctl -t long /dev/<device>
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I installed openbox standalone in Arch, but when i do openbox-session i get "Openbox-Message: Failed to open display from the DISPLAY environment variable". Please help anons.
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>>52526086
closed source spawned beauties like ie6.
nuff said
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>>52526086
nice b8
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>>52526105
incapable of checking my USB key.
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>>52526253
Yeah, everything that differs from your world view of a perfect and 100% secure Linux absolutely has to be bait.
I bet this bug was actually made up by some Indian M$ shills amirite?
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>>52526297
>USB key.
Then why on earth have you asked for a hard drive test?

As far as i know SMART is not implemented on most if not all USB flash drives.
If you suspect your usb flash drive to be garbage, put it where it belongs - in the trash.

Try a tool called "f3"
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>>52526309
I think you fail to realize the differences between open and closed source development model.

Make sure to read up on that friend.
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>>52526413
That's what I call "harddrive". Anything that isn't ROM or RAM.

So how can I check my hardrives, my ssd drive or my usb keys?

hints: there is a universal tool for every "hard drives"
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>>52526468
>That's what I call "harddrive".
fuck off kindly.

just because you came up with a retarded definition completely abolishing the differences between various storage technologies doesn't mean everyone has to comply.

>hints: there is a universal tool for every "hard drives"
THEN FUCKING USE IT
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>>52526538
like i said before, make sure to read up on that friend
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>>52526542
The test is to see how people are retarded. Usually you go somewhere and ask that question and linux "guru" answer fsck. You didn't do that mistakes, but you cite obscure tools when badblocks exist.
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>>52526582
np lad always here to help
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>>52518752
Let's say I am interested in Linux, and I want to use something easy and stable, like Debian or OpenSUSE. What hardware should I be using? Would it be preferable with AMD over Nvidia, or should I use Intels GPU?
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>>52526630
intels gpus have the best graphics drivers, followed by nvidia, and then amd.
but, of course, theyre still intel gpus meaning theyre much slower.
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>>52526630
for the least painful experience, intel igpu for sure.
they work ootb, since intel's drivers for it are opensource.

if you need more gpu power than intel igpu can provide than any recent nvidia GPU with proprietary drivers is the second best choice.

If you can, avoid amd.
Their proprietary drivers for linux are so fucking shit that running reverse-engineered open source drivers made by linux neckbeards is tenfold better experience.
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Is Chakra really as bad as what memsters say? It gets thrown into the same pile as Manjaro and Antergos, but all I see is a decent KDE-centric bleeding edge distro without frills, which sounds like exactly what I'd want. What's the catch?
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>>52526571
>thinks usb sticks are hard drives
>calls other people retarded
Pls go
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>>52526652
>>52526653
>intels gpus have the best graphics drivers
>for the least painful experience, intel igpu for sure.
Do you know if it works just as good as with windows?
I am not a hardcore gamer, but sometimes I like play some casual games. Can I do that just as well on linux? I have seen some videos about Intel Iris, and that it is supposed to be great.
https://youtu.be/N_1F7UrI0PA
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>>52526840
>Do you know if it works just as good as with windows?
Yep, intel gpus are the only gpus on linux which "just fucking work". You won't experience crashes, drivers going to shit after an update and all that stuff which haunts proprietary drivers from nvidia and amd.

Bear in mind that linux has no access to DX, so you're left with openGL and game-to-game optimization for openGL may vary.
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>>52526840
intels gpus literally work better on linux than windows.
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>>52526571
>fsck
>tests for media issues
nope

>smartctl
>obscure tool

this is bait, isn't it?
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>>52526888
>>52526893
Thank you! You have been helpful.
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>>52526888
radeonsi for recent radeon cards just werks as well
also, dx not being available isn't completely true anymore either, there's a nice native implementation of direct3d 9 which you can use with wine (by native i do mean it doesn't go through opengl at all)
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Anyone have any idea how to properly set up suspend/sleep and locking in i3?
Essentially I want timeouts and all that stuff. Should I install a DE powermanager?
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>>52526973
how to install these? 15.10 broke multimonitor support for me.... need some new drivers.
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>>52527057
most desktop distributions will have that installed already, unless you replace it with the proprietary ones
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>>52527042
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>>52527073
so just switch to xorg driver in ubuntu?
Fuck.
Why isnt my second display gettting detected? its a shitty 11y/o 1024x1280 one, but still.
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I'm looking for a DE that is easy to use but offers a different experience then winblows. I've tried open box and evilwm but I'm too autistic to use them
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>>52527090
gnome
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>>52527089
what do you get when running "xrandr"? (with the second monitor plugged in and turned on, naturally)
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>>52527105
When i plug it in the main monitor gets a ton of artifacts on it, so much that i cant see anything, while the second monitor continues showing nothing.
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>>52526653
>If you can, avoid amd.
>Their proprietary drivers for linux are so fucking shit that running reverse-engineered open source drivers made by linux neckbeards is tenfold better experience.

I can confirm this with my R9 270x. When I tried using the latest AMD proprietary driver on the Ubuntu repos to see if it could help with a sound error I had on my HDMI, it completely fucked my kernel to the point where I couldn't even get to a tty to restore the old settings and I had to do a re-install of the system.
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>>52527535
"extended" is a primary partition that holds logical partitions, that is, it contains partitions sda5 and sda6 (judging by the sector ranges)

linux swap is your swap partition, aka "virtual memory" for linux

pic related is what your disk looks like graphically (assuming 512 byte sectors)
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>being a turbo autist is a requirement for using linux
Linux seems neat but I don't have time for this shit
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>>52528422
get a just werks distro and use it for a while.
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>>52528422
but you have the time to type remarks about how you don't have the time for it?

bruh
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>>52528422
autist must mean someone with average intelligence and problem solving skills for you, so yeah you're totally normal
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>>52522143
Install compiz.

Google "how to install compiz with xfce <<your version>>"
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So, to BSPWM users in this thread, any reason to choose it over I3?
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Is it possible for a windows malware that spread via USB flash drives to infect linux?
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>>52528965
Some have said that a Windows virus can sneak into your Wine environment (if you have one), and that there have been viruses specifically designed to meet said condition; in this case, a Wine environment. Keep in mind that I've only heard these things and haven't looked into it because I don't run Wine.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/562388/do-wine-viruses-only-work-while-wine-is-running

https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2007-January/053719.html
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>>52528965
>infect linux?
only if the author of the malware knew about some unpatched vulnerability/explot and programmed the malware to target it.
Which because of the small desktop share running linux either doesn't happen at all or happens once in a blue moon.

If you're worried about it set your external usb drives to mount with a noexec flag.
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>>52529106
>noexec flag
How to do that?
On manjaro, with xfce if it matters.
>>52529014
I see, I've installed PoL.
Though what I fail to understand, how wine get infected if I don't manually run the malware? Do you mean that autorun viruses work even in linux?
I thought .ini files are windows only thing.
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>>52529179
>How to do that?
look up /etc/fstab
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>>52529179
Like I said, didn't look into it. Because a "noexec" flag exists, I'm going to assume that some Windows malware has the ability to autorun itself on Linux. But seriously, take what I'm posting with a grain of salt. I don't know anything about this.
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>Gnucash exists
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The font rendering in Midori is absolutely terrible, so I installed Infinality. How can I make Midori use Infinality to render the fonts? I'm using Arch, and read the fucking manual but it's not really comprehensible.
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>>52529329
Midori is fucking shit. Why would you even use it?
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>>52529337
Need something lightweight to run on an Intel Atom with 1GB ram
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>>52529329
if it's not garbage it should already do that.
>>52529324
>gnu octave exists
there's a lot of cool stuff out there anon.
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>>52529352
How about QupZilla?

https://www.qupzilla.com/
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>>52529369
I'll have a look, thanks!
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>>52518752
Clementine music player stopped working, then i tried to install rhytmbox and wasn't working too. Rhytmbox gave me a message saying there was a problem with audio synch. I have no idea what to do, can anyone help?
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>>52529423
>stopped working
please be more specific, run it in a terminal and see post the errors.
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>>52529423
sudo dmesg | grep -i audio
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>>52529423 post results of >>52529547
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I inherited an ancient postfix mail server and need to migrate it to a newer system without taking the current system down until the new one can swap it, or very limited down time.

What should I look at to figure out what the original person did to setup the server?

Current box is running ubuntu 12.04, and I'd like to move it to a centos 7 box
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Hi, Linux-newfag here.
I'm trying to change the background and font color of my terminal (its rxvt-unicode) but it just wont work. I'm trying to change all the things in ~/.Xresources but nothing changes all the time. Its still as ugly as before
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What are the pros and cons of Trisquel and Parabola?

I come from a Debian past so I was leaning towards Trisquel, but I've heard the packages are much more out-of-date than Parabola's. Is it worth learning Arch-fu to use Parabola?
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>>52529974
you have to apply the changes

xrdb --load ~/.Xresources
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>>52530028
i'd recommend staying on debian until guixsd is stable desu.
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>>52530028
>pros
ascend into the world of RMS

>cons
shit doesn't work on majority of hardware
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I killed my feodra install because lvm today by accident.
what distro to install that works well on a laptop?
Is there any difference in battery life between them? laptop is 5200u with a 1080p screen.
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>>52530115
>that works well on a laptop?
fedora
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>>52530081
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>>52527042
i3lock, also read the arch wiki for i3
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>>52530126
Thats what I had, so I guess....
It can be installed without lvm right?
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>>52530131
-load, one - instead of 2
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>>52530131
ah forget it, it's a single hyphen not double
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>>52530155
you only really need lvm when you do an encrypted installation or plan to change the partition scheme in the future.

Otherwise, just go barebones
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>>52530205
restart terminal
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>>52530081
Why "--load"? I just do "xrdb .xresources" and it werks.
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>>52530233
looks like before
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>>52530247
post the fucking .xresources
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>>52530283
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>>52530322
I loled.
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>>52530377
im a newfag so pl0x say me how to fuckin deactivate this scrollshitbar
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>>52530389
I use only superior xterm. I can't help you.
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>>52530414
Is there a way to change the color of xterm background and the font color?
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>>52530429
Of course.
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>>52530322
! means that the line is read as comment
remove the beginning ! to actually activate your lines
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>>52530322
ah the "here i pretend to be retarded" b8man
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>>52530452
how?
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>>52530469
Command line or .xresources.
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>>52530458
>>52530466
im gonna suicide... to retarded for this world.. sorry guyz
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>>52530478
could you please tell me how it works?
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>>52530569
To have a hacker xterm
xterm -fg green -bg black
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>>52530458
removed them, still doesnt work
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>>52529823
No postfix gurus here?
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>>52530603
i want something that fits to my taskbar and background picture
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>>52530656
Change the colors Sherlock.
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>>52530604
Reload config and restart terminal. It wont change on the fly.
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>>52530669
i would love to know how to have more accurate colors :)
>>52530672
did..
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>>52530697
Do tests anon.
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>>52530701
ok
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>remove package for very specific reason
>do system upgrade
>package reappears
I don't like this anymore
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>>52531089
Maybe it's a new dependancy for one of your other packages?
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The one thing that has always bugged me about linux is the need to input a password to do pretty much anything.

I use the terminal a lot, and constantly having to type in a password to update, or edit config files, or install new software, is frustrating. I am the administrator (and only user) of the computer. I am logged in as such. I shouldn't have to keep putting my password in every few minutes.

Is there a way around this?
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>>52531232
leave a terminal open with sudo -i for things you need it for.
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>>52531232
You know you can just change the sudo timeout to whatever you like, right?

Set it to 120 mins, then you shouldn't have to enter your password more than 4 times a day.
Set it to 1440 (24 hours) if you really don't give a fuck about security whatsoever.
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>>52531176
No, it's specifically a problem with openSUSE, its package manager and its community, a la 'why do you care if you have a few extra packages?'
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>>52531394
>la 'why do you care if you have a few extra packages?'
not opensuse user but
why do you?
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Any good Xfwm themes similar to Arc-Dark for openbox?
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anybody got any experience with selinux?

I got an alert that the process "hp" (printer driver) had tried to write to /var/lib/net-snmp/mib_indexes but It couldn't (happened when I tried to print directly for firefox).

What exactly should I type to allow the process to write in this directory, so I won't get that alert again?
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>>52531353
I added
Default    timestamp_timeout=120
but it still asks for a password if I close then open a terminal.
>>
>>52518752
Anyone have any experience with KX Studio?
I am installing it because I want to make music on Linux but all the programs I have found are a pita to setup right.
>>
How to set the font for XFontSel?
I riced my Xresources pretty nice, except for XFontSel.
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>>52531860
>I keep closing the thing I want to use, and then I can't use it
No fucking shit.

Effectively you're asking how to get rid of password protection completely.
Easy, just disable it on your account.

You're clearly not worried about anyone coming across your unattended machine while it's on, so you shouldn't give a shit about it being unprotected whilst off, too.
Besides, unless you encrypt stuff, anyone can just use a livecd to get access to all your shit.
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>>52531860
Nevermind. Adding
Defaults !tty_tickets
fixed it.
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>>52531666
Limited hard drive space for one, being american and having the right to have very specific reasons to remove certain packages for another.
>>
Is there a way to move windows to other workspaces with shift+alt+mouse wheel in Xfwm?
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What's the best way to have a background slideshow gnome?
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>>52532312
probably not
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>>52532437
Oh well. I suppose shift+alt+A/D work just as well, if not better since I won't have to use my mouse
>>
>>52531877
Let me rephrase my question, is KX Studio viable as a daily driver in place of Ubuntu?
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>>52528959
I haven't used i3, but based on the video demos I've seen of it, I don't think I'd like it anyway.

BSPWM's leaf system seems weird at first, but it makes a lot of sense in practice. Opening new windows splits things automatically, and IMO, it's simpler and aesthetically pleasing. If you want to split the screen manually, you can do it pretty easily, too.

Bsp also uses vi-keys for various movement stuff, whereas default i3 uses jkl;.

From the documentation I've seen, bspwm's method for establishing keybindings -- messages via sxhkd -- is somewhat simpler than i3's method.
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>>52533380
>>>/mlp/
>>
why is this thread dead?
>>
>>52532684
I've been using I3 for a long time now. I don't have any problems with it, but I'm always open for trying something new. What I want to know is, how much will my knowledge of I3 (keybindings, configurations and such) transfer over to BSPWM?
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Reposting this question here. Just installed Gentoo.

So far I haven't seen anywhere a solution to these two problems

1. Mount USB when it is connected. If I run devmon it does this but for some reason running devmon as a daemon doesn't.

2. Suspend on close laptop lid. Actually this does work, but for some reason when I open the laptop it suspends again? What is the proper way to do this?
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>>52534492
You can mimic your i3 experience in bspwm pretty well. It just requires some knowledge of how bspwm gets signals from sxhkd and what those signals mean.
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>>52534864
It splits automatically like you said. I'm so scared.
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>>52535071
Be sure to read rc files for bspwm and sxhkd, along with bspwm's man page.

You can, for example, preselect a direction to split by using Super + Ctrl + vi-keys.
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>>52535126
Alright, thanks for the help.
>>
How do I install Ubuntu onto a USB from Apricity (Arch based distro)? I need a usb creator but everyone I download doesn't support arch. Please help! I can't get VLC to even install on Apricity
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>>52535204
Download your Ubuntu ISO, then
sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/device/name


This is for a live USB.
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>>52535242
I've seen it recommended with "bs=8M" at the en like this:
sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/device/name bs=8M

I don't recall why whatsoever, do you?
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>>52535363
bs is block size. As far as I can tell, it affects almost nothing except the write speed. 8 megabytes will go by much more quickly than leaving bs blank, which is 512 bytes.
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>>52535363
>>52535242

Okay, at this point I'm pulling my hair out as my USB which I used to boot USB in the first place is not flashing when I plugged it in. It's not recognized :(
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>>52535466
It's probably working. Make sure that the system sees it.

Does it show up with the command lsblk?
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>>52535466
plug it in (again if it's already in), wait a couple seconds, run "dmesg", then post the last several lines (about as much as you can see on a normal-sized terminal window)
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>>52535528
>>52535532

[17597.334475] usb 3-3: USB disconnect, device number 14
[17599.539612] usb 3-4: new high-speed USB device number 15 using xhci_hcd
[17599.715749] usb 3-4: ep 0x81 - rounding interval to 128 microframes, ep desc says 255 microframes
[17599.715754] usb 3-4: ep 0x2 - rounding interval to 128 microframes, ep desc says 255 microframes
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>>52535557
try a usb2 port if you have one
>>
>After upgrading to BlueZ 5 recently, everything seemed to be working great,
>but then it was pointed out that Bluetooth audio was no longer working.
>The reason was that the newer BlueZ branch had dropped ALSA support and now
>required PulseAudio. So with some trepidation, we began investigating adding
>PulseAudio to Slackware. Going back to BlueZ 4 wasn't an option with various
>dependent projects either having dropped support for it, or considering doing so.

Fuck.

Why won't you let me escape, Poettering?
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>>52535557
using the last line to look for answers, some say it could be an issue with the usb drives' controller, another found it was just a bad physical connection that caused it
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>>52535682
>>52535621

Damn, this sucks. Is there a terminal command for any program I can use to watch .mkv files?
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>>52520840
>>>52520828
>>mixing up aliases and handles
>bro, do you even hack?
>.Hack

HOW COME I MUST KNOW
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>>52535659
lsblk
You did this, right?
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>>52535736
>>>52535682
>>>52535621
>Damn, this sucks. Is there a terminal command for any program I can use to watch .mkv files?

Vlc <file>, mpv, mplayer
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I want to achieve VGA passthrough in Elementary OS, Ubuntu, and Manjaro.
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>>52535779
I can concur. VLC works just fine with .mkv files.
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>>52534529
Anyone?
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300th for Numix
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>>52536685
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.
Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.
One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?
(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.
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Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.
You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks.
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Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.
Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?
If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:
Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.
Thanks for listening.
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