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Warez edition

Old thread: >>52503919

Not sure what private trackers are all about?
The mission of /ptg/ is to promote the highest possible standards of tracker service by providing members with opportunities for professional development, by recognizing technical competence through examinations and by advancing the interests of its members.

Check out the wiki and update it yourself if you want more instead of complaining like a fucking faggot. https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Private_trackers

How to get into private trackers (and survive): http://pastebin.com/BFQBwQxm
Paths to get into trackers (particularly old and outdated): http://pastebin.com/D74UA1UK

What.CD Interview Notes: http://pastebin.com/Wgz6T7ta
https://www.whatinterviewprep.com/

Various tracker IRCs and sites open for signup
http://pastebin.com/dD3cqWKc

Use >>>/g/ptg as a link to find the /ptg/ thread.
Remember the following:
>staff occasionally read these generals and have posted here before.
>staff may pretend to be normal users asking for invites and when you invite them, they ban you for inviting strangers
>people may report emails and other personal info posted here to staff to get you banned.
>most of the invite offers here are people trolling you with false hope - begging for invites is a waste of time and you should just interview
>around 60% of posters here chat shit - don't make any claims about sites based on "something you read here once"
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First for duping accounts on WCD
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>invite someone
>downloads a bunch of box set flacs
>ratio falls to 0.3
>slowly climbs back up to 1.0
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>>52512887
>>around 60% of posters here chat shit

Yeah but nobody get banged.
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>>52513106

Who gives a fuck if they get disabled for bad ratio though.
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>>52513107
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>>52513106
>godawful speeds
>download ~20 torrents on empornium
>I end up seeding back all of them, 10+ ratio on some
Best tracker or best tracker?
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>>52513179
It is pretty based.
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>>52513179
>seeding porn
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>>52512990
For what purpose?
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>>52513162
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>waiting for recruiters
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>>52513210
How else will I download more?
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>>52513329
That fucking banding.
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>>52513418
Beautiful isn't it?
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>>52513418
Will be fixed in AHD remux, don't worry.
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>>52513211

Mainly just because I can at this point, I'm experimenting with ideas relating to how I can sell accounts and/or invites in the future though.
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>>52513450
do you need the money? i always assumed this sort of thing was for indians.
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>>52513106
>invite semi-normie dudebro from work to PTP
>give him tips and show him how/what to upload
>tfw he builds a bigger buffer than me in a few months, surpasses my upload count, and perma seeds everything
>other normie coworkers say how awesome shit like Showbox is
>we both laugh at their pleb shit

It's a good feel actually
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>>52513609

No, but it wouldn't hurt either. It takes a few hours to wait for and sit the interview, a few hours more to upload new torrents and abuse freeleeches then everything after that is a case of waiting.

If you intend to attempt to shame me for doing something that only a poor person would do, don't bother, I don't give a fuck.
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So the best way to store a library of movies is to just build a nas right?
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>>52513712
Some anons use plex here.
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>>52513666
Damn, anon. Do you guys work in IT?
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>>52513721
Yeah i do too, i would just put it on the nas then i think. But i meant just for storing?
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>>52513666
What the fuck is showbox?
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>>52513737
Nah we're both stockboy slave wages at a retail store

>>52513751
The new Popcorn Time I think. Some streaming app for movies and TV.
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>>52513862
>>52513862
>slave wages

Kek how did I fuck that up?
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>>52513748
Wait, so your question is what is the best way to store movies? like archiving them or something?

I would remove all connections and keep them at their recommended temps and maybe connect them once a month to make sure everything is ok.

>>52513751
Showbox is an app for Android phones that doesn't require root access. It's 'popcorn time' for users of android basically. Also it might just be a web app.
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>>52513862
Hmmm, I suspected IT because you mentioned that he permaseeds but I guess you two are just smart stockboys.
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Can anybody screenshot the stats for BTN?
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>>52514570
NO
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>>52514570
fuck no
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>>52514570
next time just ask for the user count
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PTP recruitment closes tomorrow
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>>52514570
Maximum Users: 35,000
Enabled Users: 34,139
Online Since: November 2nd, 2009
Born: 6 years, 2 months ago
Online Users: 287
Users active today: 9,360
Users active this week: 21,549
Users active this month: 29,508
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>>52514733
DELETE THIS
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>>52514762
not the fag, but why?
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>>52514733
thx m8
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>>52514788
DELETE THIS
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>>52514779
Some anons here on /ptg/ get an lol out of saying 'delete this' and 'sent'
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>>52514733
DEELETE THIS
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>>52514866
delete these dubs
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>>52514733
reported
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>>52514733
DELETE THIS
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>>52514866
oh and I would like to add they get a kick out of saying 'reported' as well
>>52514907
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>>52514928
Sent :^)
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>>52514928
Hello, reddit.
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>>52514928
hello reddit
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Relative newfag to /ptg/ shit, and I am alwqays busy lurking, but is the point of this literally just to get torrents not accessible publicly?
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>>52515064
Higher quality, more seeded, it comes out faster, rarer content & more private.
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>>52515064
I do it for the internals desu. And the general availability.
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>>52515064
Not even about stuff that isn't available publicly, it is about speed, assured quality (or the torrent would get deleted by staff), and it's safer because you aren't connected to a public swarm.

There of course is also a wider selection available on private trackers as well and some older things with good seeders that you just wont find publicly.
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>>52514733
>761 slots

so why the fuck aren't they recruiting
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>>52515115
No recruiter right now. And they don't have to recruit all the time just because they're not at cap.
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>>52515115
no plebs allowed
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>>52515082
Maybe I am a fucking numbskull, but what would you possibly want that isn't on some public torrent site? Maybe fucking gore shit, but if I want to get the newest Photoshop, that shit is always up.

>>52515099
But if you have to comb for this shit, and have to be invited to some of these sites, how available really is it?

>>52515108
>aren't connected to a public swarm
It makes sense in a way, but isn't there safety in numbers?

>wider selection
Like what? Like I said above, if I want some expensive software, it is almost always available publicly.

>speed
That makes sense.
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>>52515178
>It makes sense in a way, but isn't there safety in numbers?
No because the MPAA/RIAA/whoever wants to send you a notice, are just using a computer to make a note of every IP connected to the swarm they are monitoring. Then they generally just send out automated notices to all the IP addresses they grabbed. There is no safety in numbers because they are doing bulk collection of IPs.
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>>52515178
>Like what? Like I said above, if I want some expensive software, it is almost always available publicly.
It really depends what kind of stuff you're interested in, if you want super old 1930s and 40s era movies in high quality encodes, there is a private tracker out there for you. Maybe you're looking for some obscure anime or porn or whatever it is.

You MIGHT be able to find it on a public tracker, but if you do it will likely not be seeded well at all, or it may not have any seeds depending on how old the torrent is.

Private trackers encourage permaseeding, and further many trackers allow you to request a reseed, meaning it will send a notice to users who it knows have at one point downloaded that particular torrent, and ask them to seed it if they still have it.
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>>52515115
Hello IPT
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>>52515178
Advantages of private trackers include:

Speed: If you're familiar with torrents you probably know that the bigger the swarm, the faster you download. Private trackers encourage their members to seed torrents for as long as possible, thus guaranteeing bigger swarms for every torrent. Not only that, but many members use remote seedboxes with huge upload speeds, thus dramatically increasing the speed for many torrents, often making them available almost instantly.
Retention: Similarly, private trackers usually enforce rules that encourage long-term seeding. Many torrents for obscure content that you wouldn't normally find any peers for on ThePirateBay or KAT will be still seeded by a few peers on private trackers.
Selection: Some content simply isn't available on any public site and will only be found on private trackers. Sometimes you can't even legally buy it at all, ironically. Some trackers even specialize in obscure or rare content, ensuring that it doesn't get lost from the Internet.
Quality control: A major asset of private trackers, albeit one that can vary a lot across trackers. Good private trackers have very strict rules on content format, quality and organization. Music trackers will ensure you don't get horrible 92kbps transcodes, movie trackers will ensure you only get good encodes, ebook trackers will ensure you get retail quality, etc. Members and staff review and approve each torrent. Trumping rules and the removal of duplicates ensure you only get one, community-approved source for the specific content and format. This, coupled with a decent site layout, makes private trackers much more orderly than public ones.
Security: There are two reasons private trackers are more secure, albeit they may not apply in the future. The first one is that most of them are obscure enough that no one really knows or cares about them (security by obscurity). The second one is that copyright trolls would rather focus on huge public sites that are easy to fish
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>>52515207
>>52515252
>>52515257
Ah, thanks guys. I am probably going to switch to private trackers (if I can even get an invite to one) now.
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>>52515360
If you like anime start at Animebytes

If you like music start at what.cd
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>>52515178
>But if you have to comb for this shit
What?
>and have to be invited to some of these sites, how available really is it?
Well that parts really easy. I'm 2 months into the game and on AHD and PTP already so I can access almost all the internals I want.
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So I've been a uTorrent fag forever but it's been acting like shit recently, so I've decided to make the switch. What client should I be using /ptg/?
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>>52515360

>(if I can even get an invite to one)

Why were you banned? and who banned you?
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>>52515587
rtorrent
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>>52515587
>What client should I be using /ptg/?
utorrent 2.2.1
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>>52515257
I'll still never understand why the FEDs don't just invade WCD. It'd be easy as fuck. I get the whole MUH PUBLIC SITES ARE EASIER bit, but still. Just imagine taking down WCD. We all know some other site would pop up immediately taking it's place...but if WCD got taken down it would fucking rattle and scare all other trackers.
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>>52515587
Qbittorrent. Install not the latest one atm but the one just released before it.
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Anons is there a way into Bitme these days? It looks dry out there. Is it even worth it?
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>>52515605
Based upon the wiki, you need an invite to access most of these private trackers, no?
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>>52515629
Why do you want this to happen? and users of what.cd own every single thing they download. It's just for backup you dickhead.
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>>52515629
>it would fucking rattle and scare all other trackers.
No it wouldn't

w.cd is known far and wide as THE place to start on private trackers because of the ease of entry and the good invite forums.

It has so many users and the interview process isn't particularly difficult I dont think too many people would be shocked if they already were infiltrated.
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>>52515656
Sorry, I'm not buying it /ptg/.
This guy is pretending to be new.
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>>52515656
He is implying you shouldn't worry about getting an invite or not unless you've been banned, if you haven't been banned before then you're fine and should have no problem getting into a decent starting tracker (what.cd or animebytes).

From that starting tracker you can build yourself up to where you can then get invited to other trackers you would be more interested in (AHD, PTP, Bib, etc)
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>>52515629
They did this with oink.

Worked out great, now there are two major music trackers, a very impressive new frontend, and every major tracker has beefed up security.
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>>52515619
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>>52515662
EVERY tracker is infiltrated.
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>>52515661
>users of what.cd own every single they thing download


LEL no need to lie to me I'm not the FBI dickhead. And I wouldn't want that to happen, I'm just saying I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Besides if some poor sack of shit has to resort to using public trackers and Yify rips I highly fucking doubt he has the money to pay their shitty little DMCA notices. Whereas someone filling requests and uploading shit on WCD, has money. Hence why you see faggots panicking in the forums.

>>52515662
>no it wouldn't

You must be retarded if you don't think WCD being taken down wouldn't be talked about for years. Most trackers would shit their pants.

>>52515712
And that's probably the only reason I would never want to be staff on one of the trackers.
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>>52515686
>not buying it
Oh, thanks man. I thought I knew a lot about tech, come to /g/, wtf is this shit. Lurk for a while, see this tracker stuff, the wiki is a fucking mess with it repeating itself forty fucking times. I think it is somewhat understandable.

>>52515689
Oh, alright. That makes sense. Thanks.
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I just wanna to tell about this to you guys...

Like 3% of what.cd accounts are mine. I can prove it. Really.
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>>52515795
Assuming all of those accounts are enabled, then you own roughly 4466 accounts.

Prove it, faggot.
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>>52514733
>Born: 6 years, 2 months ago


how the hell did they grow so quickly?
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>>52515823
I don't need to prove, though. You know it. I'm TARS.
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>>52515629
IPT will be the target of any private tracker take down. 2-3 x bigger userbase, big profits and plenty of previous mainstream media attention
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>>52515795
>>52515839
>yuropoors

>>>/out/
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>>52515178
>what would you possibly want that isn't on some public torrent site

Ignorance is bliss I guess. Today alone I snatched 5 albums in FLAC from jpop that weren't even on what.cd let alone public trackers.

Tonight I think I'll watch a sweet AHD remux. You just don't know how shit your life is right now.
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>>52515652
no and no
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>>52515769
>You must be retarded if you don't think WCD being taken down wouldn't be talked about for years. Most trackers would shit their pants.
Oh sure it would be talked about, but most smaller trackers that aren't as open as w.cd I dont think would be that rattled, everyone knows if a big one is going to get taken down, it's w.cd because of how easy it is to get in. Im not saying it wouldnt be a big deal, all I am saying is the private tracker owners out there wouldnt suddenly think they are next, almost no tracker is as easy to get into as w.cd that isn't curry.
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>>52515860
>implying I want to listen to jpop
>you just don't know how shit your life is right now
Yeah, I am just fucking dying without my JPOP man.
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>>52515875
If what.cd went down every tracker on earth would shit the bed except the Chinese ones.

I'd doubt any would ever recruit again, or at least not for years. I can't even imagine what would happen it would be bigger than silk road's takedown.
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>>52515587
transmission qt
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>>52515178
>Like what?
Anime. Some torrents simply don't have seeds on public trackers, and there are series you can't find anywhere else.
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>>52515875
I won't even mention how AB is just as easy, because they probably don't give a single fuck about anime. But let's be serious here for a moment.../ptg/ always harp on and on about how easy it is to get on PTP and BTN. I mean do you really think the government don't have means to amazing fucking internet and tons of fucking hard drives? The only thing they'd have trouble with is waiting 4-6 months to be able to ask for an invite to these other trackers. And they certainly have the means and manpower to have multiple (thousands) of accounts on a bunch of trackers. And I'm sure it wouldn't cost nearly as much money to do compared to how much money they waste on other bullshit. My only question is WHY...why don't they do it. I'm not worried or scared but I'm just intrigued by why they wouldn't take down a site like WCD or PTP...literally millions of dollars being lost because of these trackers, yet they seem more concerned about taking down some weed dealer or some retarded bullshit like that. I've just always wondered about shit like this for years.
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>>52515906
>he says while he posts animu.TIFF

I don't know what kind of superiority you're trying to laud right now, but it's not working.
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>>52515958
So why didn't any of that happen when OiNK was taken down?
What you're saying has all already happened before..and yet here we all are.
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>>52515984
Because there is even more money lost on public trackers and streaming sites since normies have access to them you dense fuck.
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>>52515984
>WHY...why don't they do it
Because there are more people torrenting on public trackers and it's easier to go after them.
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>>52516010
OiNK was nowhere near the size or had as much stature in the wider community that what.cd has. They're not even comparable at all at this point.

The world has changed.
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>>52516016
>all of the content on public trackers are trickle down from private trackers

I know you're a retarded fuck but please, think before you post next time dickhead.

>>52516029
See above.
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>>52516047
Now imagine the size of what's replacement.
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>>52516058
>>all of the content on public trackers are trickle down from private trackers
no, most trickles from scene groups and their private FTPs or usenet.
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pls stop talking about /pt/ getting taken down.

why are you summoning the demon.
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>>52516068
Exactly, that's why what's going nowhere. Lord knows nobody is suddenly going to switch using Waffles. I'd rather start from the beginning on a new what.
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>>52516058
>all of the content on public trackers are trickle down from private trackers
That simply isn't the case, at all. Most people who actually upload to private trackers keep their shit off public trackers.
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>>52516091
That is the case. Just because not all the stuff of privates end up on public, doesn't mean that all the stuff on public isn't from private.
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>>52516087
Gotta have a taste of that meme magic all the other boards have already used for catastrophes.
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>>52516127
>doesn't mean that all the stuff on public isn't from private.
It isn't. That's extremely silly.
There is some stuff, sure, but it's not like people take it from the private tracker and upload it to the public. Most the time people get it from the source and just upload it.

Like Nyaa and AB. Nyaa usually gets stuff first and AB gets it after, but Nyaa is the public one. This might change now that AB does seasonal though, but Nyaa is still the best place if you want tons of people to get your content.
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>>52516127
it doesn't originate from private trackers though, private trackers are rarely the source, they just rehost what scene groups release, or take what a scene group has released and make an internal encode.

They arn't the source however.
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>>52516058
>>all of the content on public trackers are trickle down from private trackers
You have no idea of the route taken by scene releases right ?
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>>52516196
Of course he doesn't, he has no idea what hes talking about.
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>>52516187
Oh who gives a shit about anime.
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>>52516222
It's just as true for TV and movie releases except replace Nyaa with scene group FTPs.
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>>52516222
It's the same for other shit as well. The source isn't private trackers.
That doesn't even make sense.
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>>52516196
tell me the route of scene releases anon, tell me.
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>>52516127
...let's say your inane babbling was correct.
How would the feds go about taking down "the source?"
Let's say they want to kill off movie encodes. Who do they go after? PTP? They just do handjobs. They'd need to take down PTP, AHD, TehC and HDB to start making a dent.

And that still doesn't get rid of the scene.
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>>52516196
The route is
>topsite
>private tracker/pretracer
>public tracker

that's it, that's all there is too it. And regardless, most here don't watch scene shit.
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>>52516254
Lurk more, newfriend.
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>>52516269
I was going to make a huge post about this but I think it's a bad idea on a public board. If HDB went down everyone be absolutely and completely fucked for a while.
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>>52516243
>>52516244
I don't care about the source. Of course private trackers aren't the source, except for some things. In any case besides anime, everything hits private trackers before public trackers.
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>>52516305
>everything hits private trackers before public trackers
They hit about the same time desu senpai.

The people uploading to private trackers wont always put it up on a public tracker, but many do.


You're really just showing how little you know at the moment.
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>>52516305
No, not at all. Even videogames go from the source to public trackers just as quick as private trackers.
And anyway, just because it goes on one first, that doesn't mean fucking anything. Both get it from the source one way or another.
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>>52516269
Who cares about the fucking source? I don't. I'm saying it goes sources > private > public and a lot of shit from private doesn't even make it to public whether that be Internal encodes, cds only uploaded to private trackers, or HDBits retard huge BD archive.
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>>52516305
Jesus, I love newfags.
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>>52516354
>HDBits retard huge BD archive.
so based
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>>52516388
>that face when you will NEVER EVER enter hdb
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>>52516354
>I'm saying it goes sources > private > public
And I'm saying you're wrong. It's either uploaded to both or it never makes it to public. It isn't sources>private>public. It can get to public first or private first.

It's sources>private/public or sources>private

There is no trickle down because most people on public trackers aren't looking for those really rare CDs or movies or whatever.
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>>52516421
This is true. Public trackers ONLY ever have mainstream content because of the obvious problem, retention.
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>>52516359
>>52516421
Tell me, what makes it to public trackers before private ones? Except for anime.
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Another new games tracker - http://ultimategamer.club/
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>>52516473
Literally any and everything, even new movie releases can hit public before they hit a private. It just depends man.
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>>52516497
Yeah was on Reddit. It's new as
Any user that mentions r/opensignups in shoutbox will receive 20GB upload credit.
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>>52516473
It's not about getting there first or second. You're trying to state that the stuff from public trackers comes from private trackers.

They don't. They're usually uploaded around the same time, or by different users, and they both probably got it from the source.
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>>52516518
But why would anybody who has the source on something upload to public trackers first?

All I ever see on public trackers are awful reencodes and scene shit.
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WTF is Web 2.5?

From thedeh - "brokenstones is great for Mac, plus it has the bonus of being the most gorgeous customization I've seen of a Gazelle tracker to date, something along the lines of a Web 2.5 design and certainly the most modern Gazelle tracker currently in operation."
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>>52516518
>It just depends man.
No it actually doesn't. There are private trackers dedicated to racing pretimes/scene public trackers are crazy slow in comparison.

This is Private Tracker General, the burden of proof is on you.
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>>52516575
Someone with the source can upload it to both if they want. It doesn't really matter if they upload it to one or the other first.
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Anyone know which drives are affected by Western Digital's intellipark 'feature'?
Is it only the greens?
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>>52516578
It's meme shit.

>>52516596
>It doesn't really matter if they upload it to one or the other first

Then why upload it to public trackers at all?
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>>52516497
How does it compare to p**t**g****t*m*?
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>>52516593
Lol, sure there are seedboxes dedicated to racing that will have it up 10 or 20 minutes before any public tracker, who fucking cares?


If they are both up on the same day it is irrelevant to most people who aren't farming upload for epeen.
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>>52516602
Greens and blues are the same drive.
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>>52516613
>Then why upload it to public trackers at all?
some people like to share with the normies. What does it matter to you?
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>>52516621
>moving your own goalposts
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>>52516613
>Then why upload it to public trackers at all?
To provide the material to more people?
When I upload things I upload them to private first, but it's become I'm invested in the community. I upload to public right after though.

I don't do this with really niche works, however. No one will download them or care about them on public trackers.
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>>52516651
You're acting like EVERY single release ever is put on private trackers first, which just isn't true, sorry to burst your bubble.

Hell some of those seedboxes racing to grab from the scene groups upload straight to public trackers sometimes.
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>>52516658
>When I upload things I upload them to private first, but it's become I'm invested in the community.

I upload to public right after though.

So you value private > public and even then you admit some things you only share privately meaning public does not have access to everything private.

That's what I've been saying this whole time.
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>>52516689
>moving your own goalposts
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>>52516689
>Hell some of those seedboxes racing to grab from the scene groups upload straight to public trackers sometimes.

Seedboxes for public trackers? I'm not going to believe that. Every company that allows that is total shit with shit boxes.
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>>52516706
No you haven't. You said it trickles down from private or it goes from private to public.

If it gets uploaded on both either way, around the same time, it doesn't ''trickle down'' or come from the private tracker.
Especially if it's the same user doing it.
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>>52516706
No one is arguing that private trackers don't have niche things you wont find on public trackers that much is obvious.

We are talking about scene releases, scene releases get put on public and private trackers at basically the same time. Anyone trying to argue that private trackers have access to scene movies faster than public is just kinda retarded and doesnt understand how the scene distributes their content.


Private trackers will always be better for non-scene releases and niche content though, I dont think anyone here would ever argue that.
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>>52515984
Yes, the FBI and MPAA/RIAA or whatever certainly could go after PTs pretty easily but they probably don't because it's the lowest on their priority list.

They instead go after public trackers/streaming sites because it's low hanging fruit. It's piss easy to record all IPs in a swarm and send out notices. By doing so, it sends a message to a lot of normies that yes, they are watching and have a chance of getting caught. If even 5% of people get scared and don't download anymore, that's quite a huge dent really

The other priority is scene groups. They are the ones leaking movies, music, TV, etc. days, weeks, sometimes months in advance. This is how the industries probably feel they are losing the most money. And when you consider that easily half of all shit that normies download off of public trackers is scene releases, you can see why they would love to shut them down. Plus, due to the much tighter knit communities and the fact that virtually all participants in a group are committing major crimes (in the eyes of FBI/industry), they would be very easy to convict and would probably give up all kinds of juicy info on their fellow members/scene groups for lesser penalties. You can see why they would much rather spend their effort infiltrating a scene group.

PTs on the other hand are mostly just sharing stuff between themselves in a special little club. The only ones that are probably on the radar are internal encode groups, and their stuff gets far less attention than scene releases since scene stuff comes out so much sooner.
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>>52516738
I get them all the time when I grab stuff from kickass or TPB. It's pretty obvious when you set your client to resolve IPs, the fasts 1 or 2 are almost always seedbox companies.
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>>52516743
I was never that anon who stated it trickles down. Most likely that's this guy >>52516727

I've argued that Private take precedent over public in almost all cases except anime and I'm yet to hear any argument against that.

>>52516763
You are talking about scene releases. I am talking about sources, those may or may not be scene. In any case if you can upload to both even at the same time, the private will get not only more but also get shit first.
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>>52516823
>I've argued that Private take precedent over public in almost all cases except anime and I'm yet to hear any argument against that.
But what does that even mean? If the person with the source has access to a private and public tracker, then yeah usually people will upload to private first, just because those people actually care about the hobby more.

Most the time there are multiple uploaders who upload around the same time anyway.
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>>52516823
>I am talking about sources
Well the source for almost everything is scene groups... Only the really niche stuff is actually sourced by the uploader, such as rare anime or old movies/TV/Music. Everything coming out new is probably coming from a scene group. That's just how it works.
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>>52516823
>Most likely that's this guy >>52516727 (You)
God no I never said anything like that. I'm just shitposting funny maymays because whatever this guy is trying to say it's incoherent as fuck.
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>>52516870
>Well the source for almost everything is scene groups...
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>>52516847
My entire argument is private > public in every form possible including speed and depth to content except maybe for anime.

I cannot accept a public tracker being superior or even equal in any way.

> the source for almost everything is scene groups

This is just wrong and what.cd and HDBits are gleaming towers of how wrong that is.
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>>52516870
>Well the source for almost everything is scene groups
Holy actual fuck, just how new are you?
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>>52516925
>This is just wrong and what.cd and HDBits are gleaming towers of how wrong that is.
For music sure because it's much simpler, for movie releases? Show me a single thing HDB has gotten BEFORE it was released by a scene group.
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Can someone give me some disadvatanges of using USENET + a good newsserver?

Dont tell me about p2l. Most of you use seedboxes or buy shit to upload
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>>52516925
Then we should stop arguing, because I agree with you 100%. I thought you were the trickle down guy.
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>>52516925
Pretty much everyone agrees this. The only point people are arguing against is "hur dur public trackers would be DEAD without private trackers"
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>>52516948
>P2L
>Most of you use seedboxes or buy shit to upload
I do neither so fuck off, this is /ptg/ :^)
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>>52516952
Fair enough I'll stop. That original guy probably saw one of those shitty pyramid diagrams anyway.
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>>52516952
No, the dude replying now jumped in cause he thought we were saying public trackers were just as good as private, which isn't at all the point of what we were arguing, we were just saying public and private get scene releases at the same exact time essentially.
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>>52516994
>>52516983
Oh yeah then we got nothing to argue about.
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does what.cd have a good selection of dubstep/edm/drum and bass music or is it all normie pop shit
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>>52516944
>Show me a single thing HDB has gotten BEFORE it was released by a scene group.
Kek, let's try any bluray or bluray encode of almost and movie released before this decade, 95% of their WEB-DL content (it all comes from HDB and BTN users) Any Dtheater release, the thousands of user caps that scene never did, just off the top of my head
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>>52516979
>exception makes the rule ;)

Im mainly asking about content.
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>>52517041
>does what.cd have a good selection of dubstep/edm/drum and bass music or is it all normie pop shit
Yes, but there is a tracker called deepbasenine that specializes in this.
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>>52516925
Now that animebytes is doing seasonal releases there's no reason to use anything else unless you don't want to maintain a ratio. Even then, their freeleech policy is extremely liberal

>>52517041
It has everything
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>>52517057
Usenet doesn't have anywhere near as much content, any organisation, any quality control and suffers from DMCA takedowns.
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>>52517065
ive heard of it but ive also heard its almost impossible to get into
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Theatrical, directors, or final cut?
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>>52517047
I wont argue any of that, I am just really talking about current releases. For things coming out now and releasing now, the scene groups are almost always going to have it out before any private tracker, hell most people on HDB probably can't be bothered to buy the bluray themselves and are just going to wait for the scene rip to come out so they can encode it themselves.

Obviously niche things or older releases HDB or whoever is more likely to get it because it wont ever be touched by a scene group.
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>>52517068
I'm pretty hyped for seasonal releases on AB. I don't usually watch seasonal but I might start.
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>>52517041
what.cd is the biggest music library on earth by a ridiculously huge margin.
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>>52517057
>exception makes the rule ;)
Okay... i didn't say that, just told you to fuck off, either way
You'll get the same scene content as in Private Trackers, except for some exclusive shit [AKA shit], and with probably better speeds than PTs
The problem would be organization, QC, and P2P content [AKA content produced by the tracker members], and they can take out content at any time
Also, you won't have to worry about buffer and shit
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>>52517085
FC. Never the one with the voiceover.
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>>52517085
Final if you haven't seen it before. It's by far the best way to see the film the first time.
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>>52517085
read the book instead
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>>52517083
Well I'm in it so it's not impossible but regardless,
>>52517112
what.cd is adequate for 99% of things.
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>>52517126
>>52517130
Ok thanks, yeah I haven't seen it before
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>>52517131
I would if spaggy would stop attacking bib ;)
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>>52517188
>needing bib to find a mainstream book like that
nigga please
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AZATHOTH RELEASE THE BOOKS
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>>52517214
I know. Just wish bib would return.
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>Black Mass is out

Now time to wait for that sweet AHD Remux bros.
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Will the AHD remux meme die already?
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>>52517286
Wll the "Will the x meme die already?" die already?
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>>52517286
It's just one guy.
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>>52517286
truth != meme
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>>52513442
>will be fixed without encoding
thats thuper
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>>52517081
DMCA takedowns? I guess it really is trash. Thanks for the breakdown
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>>52517360
You just haven't experienced the AHD Remux. 50% Freeleech you know.
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>>52517365
>not using european usenetservers that don't get fucked that fast
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>>52517379
i know yes, i'm on AHD
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>>52515958
>If what.cd went down every tracker on earth would shit the bed except the Chinese ones
Until the hundred thousand refugees flock to Waffles or some other site, reupload all their content there, and get enough incentives from devs due to their new-found popularity to the point they'll develop a framework better and newer than Gazelle, and again publish it for the use of a myriad of potential new tracker sysops
Cycle repeats
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>>52517395
>don't get fucked
oh good
>that fast
...back in the trash it goes.
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>>52517426
I'd rather start again on a brand new music site with the new gazelle than use fucking Waffles.
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>>52515824
I wish I could go back in time to about 5 years where I could have just gotten into HDB, PTP and BTN when they had open registrations.
Did WCD ever have open regs in its infancy?
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>>52517426
>waffles
Haven't you heard thats a 1s and 0s tracker

rutracker is an ok substitute for what and it can already handle a much higher load and has survived numerous "takedown" and cencorship attempts
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>>52517462
HDB didn't have open registrations 5 years ago. Try 10-11 (when it started).

I got my PTP invite by trading it in the old bitgamer forums
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>>52517068
>>52517065
>>52517112
have you ever not been able to find something?
>>52517164
how did you get in?
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Reminder that h*h users moved to p*ssthe*amestome ages ago and h*h became the meme fed to newfags
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>>52517490
>have you ever not been able to find something

On what.cd? all the time.
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>>52517531
OT has a better textbook section then h*H
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>>52517457
>>52517466
I gave that as an example due to the sheer amount of content there, it'd be quicker to get back up to WCD's level of releases than any other (private) music tracker that I'm aware of.
>go to check how many uploads they have
>"File not found"
lol
But as I said, they'd inevitably gain most of the better/more frequent uploads from What (TMs etc.), and I've already spoken with them about the idea of writing a new codebase for their site. And even if they didn't become the new What, someone would take meteor-gazelle (or another project) and achieve the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balloon_effect
Can't pop the piracy balloon
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>tfw all it takes is one or two shitposts to derail the thread into a 2 hour discussion about nonsense
>tfw you leave the thread and come back to multiple (You)'s

/ptg/ makes this waaay too easy.
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>>52517130
What if I have seen it before? I think I watched the theatrical cut? The one without the weird getaway ending.
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>>52517676
So what? It's fun to actually be able to discuss something, even if it's nonsense.
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>>52517840
No no he feels good, let him be
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>>52517676
if you think about it, Private Trackers are nonsense too.

All you need is IPT and possibly rutracker and you are set for life
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>>52517878
>inb4 this turns into another 2 hr discussion about nonsense
>being this obvious

Maybe next time chief. I recommend you scroll up and see my previous posts and learn how it's done. Shitposting isn't a hobby, it's a way of life. You have to be dedicated enough to truly master it. With that being said I'm off to shitpost on /tv/, maybe you can try again in the next thread.
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>>52515984
Let me tell you something
>they certainly have the means and manpower to have multiple (thousands) of accounts on a bunch of trackers

As a person who works for the US Government, I can tell you that that is completely not true. Government lacks the resources, the will, and the coordination. In addition to that, there's too much bureaucracy and they would have real legal issues if they were 1000s of accounts on private trackers and sharing illegal mat'l.
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>>52515064
That's a good question.
I've got a what.cd but I almost never use it.
Spent a while trying to get in, got in, realized there was no reason to get in. Got a good ratio now I just sit on the account for the day I might want more music again.

>This is literally why I can't have nice things.
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>>52517941
they did have multiple accounts on silkroad

and they have shutdown trackers before
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How come FileList isn't recorded on trace sites like layer13 and corrupt?
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>>52517490
>have you ever not been able to find something?
On what.cd? God no, only when I'm intentionally looking for /mu/ meme throat sounds bullshit or really underground brapp brapp shit but even then their selection is impressive.
What.CD is bigger than iTunes+Spotify+Google Music+whatever else put together. If you need music, start there. It's one of those trackers that has to be seen to be believed.
>how did you get in?
To DB9? From a friend on IRC. I'm also TM on what.cd so that helps I guess.
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>>52517941
>as a person who works for the US Government

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>government lacks the resources, the will, and the coordination

KEK, so they have the necessary resources, will, and coordination to fight in multiple wars and try to track down multiple terrorist cells and leaders and child pron rings but they can't coordinate a plan to bring down some shitty private trackers?

TOP FUCKING ZOZ, I know it's b8 but cmon, that's just horrible familia, you weren't even trying.
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>>52517776
I recommend watching the Final Cut, then the Directors Cut and deciding which you prefer. Theatrical is really, really not great.
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>>52517531
Who the fuck keeps pushing PassTheGamesToMe? It's got nothing on it!
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>>52518069
woosh
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>>52518069
It has top admins
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>>52518069
hellooooooo reddit
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Are there WCD invites on AB PU forums?
If so, what are the requirements?
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>>52518117
Yes, but it's easier to get in through TehC.
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>>52518117
Elite+6 months.

Take. The. Fucking. Interview.
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>>52518117
Elite.
Unofficial, User dictated.
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>>52518145
What are the requirements on TehC for WCD invites? Minimum account age?
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>>52518176
Age: 8 week
Ratio 1.2
Average seeding size:100 GB
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I've got nothing worth uploading, I don't have standing on any private trackers, I don't know shit about transcodes or bitrates, my connection is average at beast, and I'm ignorant about music in general.

Can I pass a What.cd interview?
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>>52517085
Final is Ridley's ideal version of the film. On top of that it's had a lot of touch ups over the previous 'Director's Cut'.

That particular internal looks fucking incredible too, watched it the other day.
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>>52518224
Cheers, I'm just going to take the interview already...
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>>52518145
>>52518146
>>52518150
ty

and I'd take the interview but I'm afraid they'll look deeper into my IP range and find out I've been on there before.
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>>52518227
Yes but you'd have to do research. There is a guide for it.
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>>52518227
I passed the What.cd interview first go after spending my entire life downloading music from youtube.
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>>52518224
what else is on the tehc invite forum? I might up my seeding size from 50 to 100 if's worth it.
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>>52518234
is HiFi better or drealiT?
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>>52518306
Not much. You can see it when you reach Fanatic.
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>>52518313
HiFi.
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>>52518227
Yeah definitely. There's an anon here that explains it best (I thinks it's alzy desu) but the gist of what he says is that the interview is just designed to find users that can read information (www.whatinterviewprep.com), understand it and apply it as well as patient enough to wait in line as it filters the curries and those users are more likely to read and follow the rules.
EVERYTHING you need is on the prep site. Just study it until you UNDERSTAND it ALL and you will pass first go
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>>52518291
Well? How does it compare?
I'm literally the same. I just download from youtube because I don't give a fuck about FLAC or any of that dumb shit. I just want the right song.
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>>52518313
>6.5 year old encode vs 9 month old encode
which is better lol?
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>>52518336
>Well? How does it compare?
>>52518013
>>52517164
>>52517112
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>>52518364
Why are you asking that? Are you a retrard or something?
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>>52518373
>implying I was the one asking the question
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>>52518373
woosh
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>>52518373
helllloooooooo reddit.
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>>52518336
It's good about 75%-80% of things. What's easy if you don't care about quality, you just get V2, V0 or 320 whichever one is better seeded. I mostly get the V0 because it's usually the best seeded.
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>>52518373

>/reddit/
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>>52518367
>>52518415
Maybe I'll finally make the plunge. Fucking interview shit sounds annoying though.
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>>52518336
>I don't give a fuck about FLAC or any of that dumb shit. I just want the right song.
Lurk more faggot.
Using 1998 meme formats is far, far stupider than transcoding your FLACs to vorbis-aotuv-lancer or Opus.
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>>52518450
I don't give a fuck. Music isn't a big hobby of mine but I'd like to find new things and just download music I want easier than on shitty youtube.
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>>52518474
there are genres on what.cd in which the uploader rips youtube vids and uploads them as FLAC (gospel music)

So dont expect too much
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>>52518474
Well then yeah, what is perfect for you provided you're comfortable with permaseeding your shit. Honestly I joined as a gateway and then what.cd sparked my interest in music
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>>52518485
>blatantly lying to newfriends

Why is it always you and why are you always being a cunt?
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>>52518485
link a torrent where this is the case?
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>>52518506
Depends what you mean by permaseeding. I have a seedbox and a NAS I could probably seed with, but I usually stop seeding after a few weeks-months depending on what it is, how big it is, etc.
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>>52518506
I don't seed anything except FL picks.
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>BTN shitting itself
>on the day that 4 of my shows have new episodes

kill me
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>>52518689
>2016
>not downloading new episodes from usenet
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>>52513106
>invite 2 guys ever
>both get disabled for inactivity
>both were people I knew pretty well for 1-3+ years

You can't trust anyone, not even your "friends".
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>>52518609
Well music is pretty fucking small if you're talking about V0.

What allows you to download your first 20GB with no required ratio provided those torrents are 100% seeded.

In V0 20GB ~=200 albums
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>>52518689
>not being on HDBits as backup because it never breaks ever

zozzle
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>>52515984
Lol how deluded are you to believe the government has time or the want to sign up on private trackers and level up to take it down. LOL
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>>52515984
>money lost

Hahahahhahahahahhah Riiiiiiight. Check the highest grossing films you faggot.
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what is good on what.cd
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>>52518882
music
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WORD OF CAUTION, I CAN'T TELL YOU TEH SOURCE OF THIS BUT WORD AROUND IS WCD WILL SOON TRANSITION TO VOIP INTERVIEWS TO COMBAT ACCOUNT ABUSE

THAT'S RIGHT, INTERVIEWS ON VENT/MUMBLE/TS. "SOON" IS KEYWORD, DON'T WAIT TOO LONG
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>>52518960
cool
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>>52518386
>>52518390
>>52518403
>>52518425
Falling for the bait. Woosh indeed.
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>>52518960
new interviews are already on Skype (they talked with my mom). Make sure to clean your room/basement
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>>52518995
>i was merely pretending
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Whats the best way to get a good ratio on private trackers? I seed torrents on AB constantly but no one ever downloads them, so I only have like 1.5GB of upload (though I have almost no download (thanks freeleech), so my ratio is still extremely good)
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>>52518995
>>52515047
>>52514924
>>52515049
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>>52519014
Win the drawing contest. S-some people are really generous with their upload
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>>52519014
How? I joined AB a few days ago and I'm near 300gb of buffer.
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Im on animebytes and I want to get my ratio up, how do I do it?
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So close yet so far.
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>>52519014
Seed a LOT of freeleech stuff, and by a lot I mean over a terabyte.

I am seeding close to 3TB right now on AB and I get upwards of 20GB per day.
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>>52519175
>>52519184
Im not a samefag I just went into this thread asking the same fucking question, lol.
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>>52519200
How many yen do you make per day?
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>>52519184
>>52519014
Why even bother getting your ratio up?

Every 1080p download is freeleech. Download it, seed it for the allotted time you need to seed, and then stop seeding. Your ratio will be infinite. If there is a series with only 480p-720p, download it, and by then you should have some yen you can maybe get a gig or two with. If not you should still have some upload from the required seeding.

They're doing seasonal anime now, so you can get a lot of ratio with that if you want.
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Whats the easiest way to hit power user on AB? They require you to upload like 10 torrents or someshit, but what could you possibly upload that they don't already have?
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>>52519256
4500-5000
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>>52519014
You get an absurd amount of freeleech torrents and you never stop seeding them. Take advantage of global freeleech days in particular, grab anything that you think will be in demand. But most importantly, never stop seeding anything. You survive in private trackers by keeping hundreds or thousands of torrents open seeding at 0-5 kb/s a piece.

Alternatively grab yourself a seedbox if you want to be a cheating ninny.
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>>52519269
Lurk /a/ for a month and reupload stuff that people post.
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>>52519269
...i hope someone doesn't spoonfeed you the answer, this shit is simple. The uploads aren't even the difficult part about getting PU on AB, it's the 2 week account age that is the biggest issue.
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>>52519269
Just upload 5 one-shots (rar/unpacked). There are plenty that are not on the site.
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>>52519275
>Take advantage of global freeleech days in particular,
These days are insane.
I remember my first one I filled up like 2-3tb of space and there was still more I wanted.
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>>52519272
Neat
Total seed size: 583 GB
Yen per day: 2700~
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>>52516081
This is not the really the case anymore. Especially when it comes to music, the scene is irrelevant except for like games at this point.
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>>52519310
Many other things come in to play when calculating yen, account age, average seeding time, seeding size, number of seeders on a particular torrent, etc.
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Is it worth it investing in a NAS early on just for PTs? My plan is to spend a measly 200$ per month or so for just WD reds, then buy something compatible with freeNAS+ZFS. Good/bad idea?
I'm tired of loosing drives for going the JBOD route.
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>>52519338
Yeh, i know, still the difference is big
Account age doesnt matter after 1 month
Haven't seeded any torrent for more than 1 year, so seeding time doesn't matter too [the multiplier kicks after a year of seeding time]
Average seeding time doesn't factor in that ecuation
I mean, you're seeding 5~6 times what i do, yet you make only twice the yen
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how do i get a higher upload on sciencehd. this may sound stupid, sorry in advance. i have uploaded some torrents already but, i am still not there to 20GB uploaded.
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>>52519377
Like I said, things like size of what you are seeding as well as how many other seeders are seeding it will influence it as well.


If you have a 60GB torrent seeding but it has 150 other seeders, it's hardly worth any yen.

On the other hand you could have a 10GB torrent that you're the only seeder on. It would be worth far more yen.
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>>52519338
>>52519377
Correcting myself a little
Account age doesn't matter after 100 days, not 1 month
>>52519433
yeah, mostly everything comes down to the amount of seeders
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>>52519446
>Account age doesn't matter after 100 days, not 1 month
Yeah i'm barely 1 month old.
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>>52519459
That explains a lot
So your account age multiplier should be *1.9~
This means that in 70 days approx. [when your account age multiplier goes to down to *1] you would be making 2400~2600 yen per day [if you don't get more shit to seed]
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>>52519517
Not him, but you seem good at maths, nerd.
Can you explain me the OT formula for a retard like me? How can I abuse their bonus point system?
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>>52519545
Do you have a image/screenshot? I'm not on OT [yet]
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>>52519517
So basically, I should snatch as much freeleech shit as I can while I'm still green and seed it while my belly's still soft.
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>>52518243
If you in the same range, they will find you regardless.
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>>52519559
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>>52519601
Basically yes, you can earn a good 100-200k+ yen that way in a month or two.
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>>52519601
Also, stop talking like a faggot, that shit is disgusting.
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>>52519601
That's if you're going for Seeding Size and maximum Upload [what most people want]
If you want to farm BP like crazy, you should get torrents that are less than 1GB, as these break the Torrent Size formula [well, more like exploit]
And the ones that have less seeders
And yeah, exploit your account age multiplier while you still can
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what does PU on cinematik get you? faq doesn't specify
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>>52519545
>How can I abuse their bonus point system?
seed a lot of large torrents for a long time.
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>>52519610
You know, that's literally the AB formula, without the account age bonus, a 4 divisor, and at ^ 0.95
So the exploit is the same, snatch shit with a torrent size smaller than 1GB, and with low seeder count for maximum Nip output
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>>52519709
>You know, that's literally the AB formula, without the account age bonus, a 4 divisor, and at ^ 0.95
>So the exploit is the same, snatch shit with a torrent size smaller than 1GB, and with low seeder count for maximum Nip output
Wrong.

On AB, torrents below a certain filesize reward a static amount of yen, which is why the exploit is worthwhile. On OT, there is no minimum. It's all proportional to filesize. The exponential also curbs your earning growth pretty hard.
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>>52519745
So they took ABs formula and made it a bit more unforgiving.

Wonder if they did it for any particular reason or they just wanted to make it different from ABs so it didnt look like they copied.
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>>>/t/
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>>52519768
before this thread derails because of this post, remember that this is bait
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>>52519745
>On AB, torrents below a certain filesize reward a static amount of yen, which is why the exploit is worthwhile
I was ignoring completely the 10MB minimum for the explot
A 16GB torrent would have a *4 multiplier in the size formula
a 1GB torrent would have a *1 multiplier
a 100MB has a *0.3~ multiplier
With 16 1GB torrents i CAN [not guaranteed] make 4 times the yen/nip than with a 16GB torrent
With 3 100MB torrents i can make as much Nip/Yens as with a 1GB torrent [not guaranteed]
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>>52519760
They're not trying to pretend they didn't copy it. They openly admit they did. They changed it to prevent people from exploiting it like you're describing.

It's also more sane imo. Having account age factor into how much you make is really stupid because it's irrelevant, and they also removed that magic 4 in the divisor.
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>>52519826

>>52519826

>>52519826

new init
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>>52519545
>How can I abuse their bonus point system?
Their bonus point system is specifically made to not be abusable. If you want lots of bonus points, you have to seed lots of content, which is exactly what they want from you and thus not at all "abuse"
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>>52516615
UGC - 26
PGT - 20

Checkmate atheists.
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>>52519410
freeleech

remember, the weekly picks are freeleech forever after, so download a bunch of old ones too
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