Swatch Group edition
First for vintage Seiko,
Got this in the mail today. It's nice.
Well it's 44.2mm but apparently only 48.5 (0.5mm more than a sub) lug to lug.
Too bad it killed its predecessor, which was pretty unique looking, like it was some microbrand diver.
>Jwatch owns Glashutte, Breguet and Blanpairn
Doesnt Swatch own Harry Winston too and many others?
I also read online they are about to revive and acquire Favre-Leuba, only rumors thought.
2nd oldest watch manufacturer right behind Blancpain.
I've been looking at the Seiko 5 pilot lineup.
What's your take on them? I like having the minutes on the outside than the hours.
I'd want to switch to a leather brown or black strap but can't find a pic for reference to which suits better. Opinions?
>tfw no 1000m sink
it's between this and leather on divers for the worst watch meme tbqh
Not really. There are Spring Drives that better looking or have a higher WR and Seiko 200m divers that are cheaper with similar exterior quality. Instead of mixing all the excellent things of GS (Spring Drive/36000, Snowfrake, 600-1000m and whatnot) Seiko took every mediocre, overlooked part of the GS line and made a nothing-special meh borefest.
Just recently got my first mechanical watch. Its some soviet thing my cousin got me. As you can see the hour hand is about 15 minutes slower than the minute hand. The minute hand shows perfect time whereas hour doesnt. What do I do?
If you don't care about price then get an Eichi II, fuck it.
LUC is pretty dank. While Cartier proper offers neat inhouse movements and tourbillons, I wouldn't get it for a male.
Cartier tank francaise would be excellent for a woman, but anything but a vintage tank on someone dressed fittingly would look kind of stupid on a male.
LUC really do great watches though.
Florida isn't Dresden, wear a dollar store hawaii shirt to blend in :^)))
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As you can see these elitist pigs only care about over compensating for their small penises by posting rolex and similar overpriced garbage. You should probably take it to a watchmaker and either simply readjust the hands or depending on the malfunction, service or replace the movement. Soviet mechanicals are extremely popular and besides maybe having to order a few parts online yourself, there would be very little hassle. Provided you want to keep it in working condition. Can you take a photo of the back of the watch, maybe for some further info?
Still no proper answer from last thread.
Currently have a Vostok with a 420 case and classic black scubadude, but it feels a little lacking.
So current consideration, either get a 710 or a 090 case. Or just buy a new one with a 059 dial with either of the cases.
New one is going to cost three times as much as a new case though.
As far as the pic goes, the bezel is on my dirskie right now.
This reminds me: A while ago I talked with one of those ancient watchmakers, one of the most respected in muh country. He told me a few things that seem pretty redpilled:
>Tourbillions are snakeoil. They would only matter in a pocketwatch or a fixed clock, since a watch could spend around 2/3 of a day on a wrist rotating pretty much randomly. Also a properly poised balance will have the same results.
>radio watches that cost more because they update more than once a day are a scam. With the accuracy of a quartz crystal you don't need to sync more than once a day or maybe even a week.
>the swiss are assholes and every large production swiss watch is build on an assembly line with workers only trained in their specific task, just like how they make smartphones, umbrellas, dragon dildos and other things you can stick in your bum
Also something that I found pretty controversial:
>a real, professional dive watch has fixed lugs since saltwater will seep into the springbars and the salt will keep eating the spring even if you rinse it
Thoughts? Also yellow terrorist Casio.
>mfw I'm picking up my new 090916M from the post office tomorrow
I fucking told you already, buy the case and swap it out yourself, what more do you need? Does baby need and adult to make his decisions?
Not that you cunt, i've already told you that's the easy part.
Only thing holding me back is that the 059 dial looks lovely.
One thing though, is the 090 case brushed?
Probably going for the polished one, will probably get the 710059 case and dial combination later on.
Any pics of yours by any chance?
Improved lume bezel
Much nice looking.
As said earlier, it's the 710059.
A bit too expensive right now, usually they should go for like ~60$ including shipping.
>Tourbillons are bought mainly for accuracy rather than "neat it spins"
I'd get a 9F / or A-10 movement watch if I wanted accuracy, but I'd still gladly wear a 3939a. Or the new JLC gyrotourbillon.
>Swiss assembly line
How else would they maximize profits?
Independent brands don't do that, but they also care about watchmaking more than in their adverts. And use the fact that they do a selling point. Grand Seikos are made in an assembly line way. Credors are not as far as I know, but neither are Swiss grand complications.
>muh salt water
If that metalurgist guy is here, I know H1 (spyderco salt) blade steel withstands rust very well, why is that and has anyone used steel (or other metals) with such capabilities for anything but pure diving tools?
Spring bars would be shitty metal in terms of corrosion resistance, I'm pretty sure manufactures buy spring bars instead of making them, so any corrosion resistance marketed for the watch won't be applicable to the spring bar
Overpriced (unless bought lightly used, third hand on /f29)
Mainly made in China "Swiss made" German meme
But by all means, if you have the money to throw away, gay gezunt!
Probably because it's DOGSHIT!
And otherwise boring and one of a million eta movements dropped in some rolex submariner wannabe setup.
what other diver can I get with an ETA 2824 for 400$?
is there a better place to spend my 400$ on a diver?
I would 100% prefer 40mm and no cyclops.
I could stomach a miyota 9015 but I don't want to wait for obris morgan.
Recently got the bulova from the guide. How hard is it to change the battery? I've heard it only lasts 2-3 years.
I'm always confused about quartz movements.
Usually the crystal resonates at 2^15 Hz = 32 kHz and moves the second hand once every 32k cycles. Why did Bulova make it run 8 times as fast, why did they not just make it move at a lower cycle count with the same frequency?
My dad's old Poljot...
How the fuck could this thing LEAK? Is that rust?
Your brother probably wanted to get you something nice and unique, but I can't imagine wanting to Wear Gorby on my wrist
Same time what >>52501418 said is right, probably just the hands
If it's a mechanical issue sad to say you're probably SOL, repairs will cost more than the watch AND probably be unavailable. Your brother had good thoughts though if he wants glorious Soviet watch just buy Vostok or Poljot.
It can get leakage after decades if it hasn't been serviced as the parts are worn down and the gaskets erode
May as well buy a new one sorry to say. If the sentimental value is high I got a friend in Serbia who has a good watchmaker still working on these socialist contraptions
Assuming the hands just ended up misaligned somehow but nothing is actually broken then you can just open up the watch and remove the hands and re-set them with some good tweezers.
help me waste my money on a wrist fedora this year. looking for a:
>dive style watch or has 200m WR
>timing bezel and screwdown preferred
>not Seiko, Orient or Submariner clone
>auto or self-powered quartz
>less than 42mm and $300 budget
He sets the hour hand to 6 and then sets the minute to twelve. It doesn't matter where the hour hand is as long as it's right on an hour dot and the minute hand is right on the 12.
You should set it so that when the hour hand is at an hour market the minute hand should be at 12:00, obviously. The seconds hand doesn't matter since it's sort of independent. Also that watch doesn't have a date but if it did you would want to make sure that you set it so the date changes when the time is 12:00.
I should put mine up for auction, you guys sure do dickride this watch a lot.
I like my Steinhart a lot, it's a very good watch which feels incredibly sturdy and high quality and it looks sharp, but everything they make is a bit oversized and of course they score zero points for originality. I would recommend them easily. I don't like that particular design personally but if you like it then go for it.
So I just found this laying in the street.
I mean, why though?
Also I'm digging through my archives so I guess I'll post a few B-side photos I haven't posted before because why not.
This Fossil may be dogshit but it's actually pretty nice looking as far as Fossils go.
Yeah I understand. German company, no real history, eta movement, copy of an old Rolex. I don't really care about any of that. The size is fine also.
I like this watch so much I am almost certain I will pick it up. I was just wondering if any anons have had bad experience with Steinhart.
They take their sweet ass time to ship off their watches and you will get no updates at all so you're going to be sitting around impatiently for a couple of weeks wondering if they forgot about you. Also they use Fedex so at least for me in the US that means I got charged customs because Fedex is a bunch of fucking jews and unlike USPS they are actually very strict about charging fees, but it was only like $20 or something.
But those issues have nothing to do with the watch itself, which is great like I said.
>costs for new machines
>put the movement into entry level watches, so op can be a huge faggot with it.
Just buy the god damn quartz. There is nothing wrong with it, mechanical movements is not a religion, so calm down plz.
>They take their sweet ass time to ship off their watches and you will get no updates at all so you're going to be sitting around impatiently for a couple of weeks wondering if they forgot about you.
I have 3 Vostoks. I've played this game.
And lastly to atone for my sin of posting a Fossil, a very out of focus photo of a crusty old but rock solid reliable and beautiful and still incredibly accurate movement from Omega's golden age.
Please no dogshit in this thread. Thank you sir.
No. I like seiko but why would a normal person spend so much, just to get an other submariner lookalike?
For that price the design should be better. They have better offers in the gs line tho. I don't know why you chose the ugly model, you french, wannabe trolling fag.
And a gore photo of what it looked like when I found it, on a shitty gold painted folded-link Citizen bracelet. That's what happens when you die and leave your cool stuff in the hands of other people, I guess. Maybe I should get my watches buried with me Viking-style instead.
Why exactly are you so keen on sucking swiss sock so much? ETA does not mean quality, eta is just marketed to dumbfucks like you. Service will be more expensive because you pay mountainjew tax.
If you really like the design of the watch then fuck off and buy it faggot. You don't have many options since they shove only this movement in there. Buy it and stop wasting peoples time, it's only 400$, how fucking poor can you be?
I wish there wasn't so much goddamn elitism over watches. If the guy wants some advice over his watch and you don't know shit about it because he's asking about entry level divers and you only care about grande complications then maybe just shut your fucking mouth instead.
ETA has some shit business practices and a base grade 2824 is going to be much less Swiss than they would have you believe and people read way too much into the claimed country of origin of watches, but it's still a perfectly fine movement on par with many other movements that it competes with. It's been in production for decades and is easily one of the most produced mechanical movements so it is very easy to service and will continue to be easy to service for decades, but on the other hand it costs more than equally good Japanese movements. I would be equally happy with a 2824, 9015, or 6R15.
>you only care about grande complications
Yeah, nice reading comprehension. I dislike complications, because they are mostly implemented to milk customers. I like simple, cheap, yet reliable and easy to service movements.
Achieving all these factors in one movement is harder than some complication faggotry.
You can get both in near any price range if you keep looking. That being said I would expect manual wind to be a little less preferred in your 'everyday people' compared to 'watch people.' And many 'watch people' are not buying brand new 50 dollar watches, at least not for long.
Collection thus far, although to be fair I've only bought two of them. The Delma has decided that this thing called "working" is overrated so I've just tossing up whether it's worth to money to get it fixed or to just keep it for parts.
Just bought the Orient Bambino V3 for $130. My first mechanical watch. Only other watch I own is a g-shock. Did I fuck up?
Alright goys, I'm getting a Rolex Sub (ceramic).
Date or no date?
what are some good entry manual winds? like at three hundred bucks?
winding a watch is just appealing to me than a rotor like a houseplant you have to water. also you can get the max power reserve in seconds instead of wearing it the whole day
Economy of scale, they're going to be marketed as 'muh heritage / prestige' models. There's really not much point on the budget end since there are great movements that allow hand winding as an option.
I think Alpha / Seagull have a few hand wind chronos cheapish.
>Did I fuck up?
No, the watch is great and a very reasonable price.
In terms of self confidence, yeah you did fuck up, if you have to come here to validate your decision. What are you anon, a woman?
I said I would be fine with a miyota 9015 or any movement up to industry standards
>hacking and handwinding automatic
>not going to shit itself over bumps or slight magnetic fields
I don't really care about ETA but whatever. I'll probably get a tisell and change the dial and crystal/remove the cyclops.
do people just buy from the korean website or what?
Why did date magnifiers come into fashion in the first place?
The date is such an unimportant complication that you'd check a few times a week at most, and it really visually dominates it.
If you're just looking at new, not vintage, your best bet is to look for anything with a 6497 movement. Keep in mind it will only be in decently big watches -- it was a pocket watch movement back in the day.
I would say the no-rolex model is just fine.
Srsly, how can somebody who is not entirely retarded buy the most generic rolex?
You are probably a normalfag with a normal paying job and you collected your money over some time to get an expensive watch. Now answer me the following
>will this watch have any impact on your life?
>are you familiar with service costs of it?
>do you value your time so little, that you would throw hard earned cash just to have some a status symbol?
>does the rest of your lifestyle reflect certain status or will you be the balding 40 y/o with sandals, shorts and a rolex?
Good to hear. Only asking because I'm very new to watches in general. First one I bought was a $60 g-shock mainly because I wanted something durable to wear for my job that wouldn't shatter into pieces if I accidentally smashed it against something.
Anyone have other recommendations for a nice EDC mechanical watch that I guess isn't as dressy as the bambino and around the same price range? I guess I'm looking for having just 3 watches. G-shock for work/exercise, Bambino for certain events/interviews/outings, and something nice yet not a dress watch to wear casually.
That's what happens if we don't bully name/tripfags
Fuck off back to reddit, where you and your kind belong. There you can giggle all day long about that ref.
And you should follow the same path, bitch.
>That's what happens if we don't bully name/tripfags
It's not that.
It's just so incongruous and out of left field I'm left puzzled as to why they mentioned it at all. Unless they're only just now reading childrens books fit for <12 year olds now.
In which case either underagedb& or mentally retarded.
Thinking about it too much.
It finally came! My first "real" watch. The bead-blasted case looks a lot better in person compared to photos, it diffuses the sunlight beautifully.
Just checked, http://tisellkr.com is the international site with dollar pricing and international shipping.
http://tisell.kr is the korean site, with more models, bit you can't order from there.
Or you can send an email requesting a model, or special requests (no cyclops, different bezel and dial colours...) and they will send you a paypal link to order.
Just email them, they respond super quick. Dude said there was another run in May / June and offered to put me on the preorder list. Passed since I can't make up my mind which not-Rolex I want.
Nice. The matte finish on the zulu strap matches well too.
You can also remove the "cover" on the crown too at your own risk, as what's underneath is easier to grip but unpolished and rough.
Some citizen promaster diver (either automatic or solar)
Or get a Vostok Amphibian, kinda checks all your requirements.
Looks lovely anon.
I got the polished case so let's see and wait for a comparison pick.
I bought this Komandirskie Paratrooper from eBay for £15. Did I do good /wt/?
I'm also swapping that bezel for a dots & dashes one as I think they look nicer.
I have both bezel lying around and i'd have to say it's a good choice.
The original bezel off that dirskie is dreadful in comparison to the Amphibian dot bezel.
Help me out bros, I saw yesterday a watch which had real second hand I think it was made by VC. Really nice and simplistic watch, anyone know the watch I'm talking about?
At work right now without computer, wanted to tell about it to coworker.
Interestingly (or not at all) I'm thinking about whether I should swap the dot bezel on my Ministry to the current factory 710 bezel. Anyone have it/seen it irl? Which one looks better?
I already do. Also were soviet watches sold without straps? I've never come across a commie watch that had a strap/bracelet that matched and I keep seeing Soviet watch boxes on the net like pic.
Also we all know current Vostok isn't on the top of their bracelet game.
I can't confirm but I often hear that around the internet.
So yeah, my current assumption is that back in the day, they indeed used to sell their watches (mostly) without bracelets.
They're comfy. Also you can put a HMT on it and it won't come in contact with your skin.
Overpriced, dubiously Swiss and targeted at the mallninja demographic >>52503141
Sorry mate but it's ugly
The text font and crown take it from acceptable to tacky normiecore
This, however, is true
Depends. The Vostok Komandirskies are cheaper than the Amphibians. Most Parnis mechanicals are cheaper than their automatics though of course both are inexpensive. I think the economy of scale is correct, and in addition the most common mechanical movements with decoration like the 6497 are indeed quite expensive to manufacture. In addition theres less demand for Miyota mechanicals, which is a shame. I'd love sub 300 Miyota powered mechanicals
No this is not the case; for sure certain watches had straps or bracelets. Some still have bracelets but they're rare.
The reason there's no straps is one of socialist economy especially from the late 80S. Due to the mixture of shortages mixed with chaotic market reforms, people would wear the heck out of what they had until it was worn out. If they could afford a replacement which was more prestigious, of higher quality, or Western (ironically, many prestigious Western items like jeans were actually less durable or even lower quality than local Ersatz production) then they would do so immediately. As most of these watches are at least 30 years old it's no surprise there's no straps as the original ones were worn into oblivion or replaced long ago. Remember, we have a cornucopia of consumer goods, for many people in socialist countries they'd been saving a whilw for a watch or waiting and may not see another.
No. The reason most blogs do see through shilling is because the watches are provided by dealers. For example many of the Hanharts and Squales reviewed online are provided by the English dealer Page And Cooper.
Now many of these watches are nice but there's some blatantly obvious contradiction in interests. Basically watch blogs exist to sell watches for their sponsors and not to take care of the customer. The opposite can be said of /g/ because anything that isn't vouched for in quality will get jumped, and the infinite Chinese-made kickstsrter campaigns are not marketed but looked on with disdain
From what I've seen the light green comes only in at 37mm with the dark green coming in larger at 41mm. Bit torn between which to go for, I feel the dark green with a leather strap will look more formal. What do you have?
Had to look up NATO, would look good with the smaller variant but the larger I'd want the traditional leather strap. Not sure on black or brown. Probably buy aftermarket.
Read this forum post (#48), pretty much explains it.
But as I understand it the c is an older model and the ob is an updated version. The c has a mediocre movement (miyota 8215 or seiko nh25a), whereas the ob has the seiko nh35a which is excellent for how cheap the watch is.
Thoughts on IWC's new Timezoner Chronograph? I love the feature of easily changing the time zone with the bezel, but i hate how chaotic it looks. But it's chaotic because of an understandable reason, if they were to remove the names from the bezel the watch would lose some functionality.
If I wanted a cluttered chrono with a 7750 I'd buy a Sinn
On the other hand despite the fact it's a tired design with shit tier promotion and an ETA I love their Mark XVIII Top Gun ceramic. Good thing I don't have 5K otherwise I'd probably buy one
But that worldtimer chrono has an inhouse movement and the Mk XVIII has a Selita movement anon.
Richemont is clearly moving away from ETA, I wonder what Sinn will do.
Soprod movement Sinns?
Yeah Sinn uses Sellita my 856 has a Sellita 2892 just like the one in the IWC
And hey man i agree the other chrono movement is original. Which sucks cuz you gotta use their service which is worse than just using a local watchmaker for your ETA
I acknowledge my taste is pretty bad I just love them aesthetics and have a weak spot for ceramic cases. The flieger dial and brand are just icing on the cake
I'll never have the shekels to buy one and if I do save I'll crack and buy a Sinn ot Damasko or maybe Nomos long brfore
What strap would you put on?
My dad has one. Most of the ones I've seen look gaudy as fuck but I like the one he has. His last one wasnt bad either but I never cared for the chrono it had since he never used it and it would have looked better with the more plain face.
muh smart g-shock
Shit I forgot to ask.
Probably in line for any other st19 since he said it was working fine. I'm just glad I won't have to deal with retarded chink shipping times again.
Thanks. Here's hoping the QC on it is as good as my parnis. It gains 2 seconds a day and loses 1 at night, so its spot on. How's the accuracy on yours?
Yeah probably. Pretty hyped about my first mechanical chronograph probably my last until I can afford to drop more than a grand on a watch though.
A GMT with 300m wr styled after a vintage Rolex? I'd love one myself, if you have the money that'd be a neat addition to your collection anon.
They are poopy but nice at the same time
I lik the case.
It's a proper divewatch case, with the crown where it serves the best function, not where the coolest new chronographs have it.
Also, this was the norm for divewatch was since ever you underage cunt.
I posted this before. Its a beautiful watch, I wanna buy one of those sports rados (the one with blue and black) but cant afford atm :^(
Do no buy
The dial looks cheaper than the pics
The movement is bad and the stem breaks easily
The watch is really really thick, much more so than the pics. Probably 17 or 18mm quite literally thicker than most chronos
They're good if you just want a watch that works and you don't care what it looks like. Cheap and ugly but they do what they're supposed to do and they're rock solid.
They make great detonators, too.
Anyone know where to get pic related?
Amazon china doesn't work with my regular account.
The white one would be okay too.
>tfw I have to teplace the crystal on my KQ because russian nigger on ebay photoshopped the scratch away
Yeah escammed, but w/e at least its fixable (and the scratches and the dirtiness of the case also). Gotta get my dremel from my parents apartments and get going. Also a partial paypal refund of 60$ wud be noice.
Runs fine though and >dat paper penis dial
Maybe he just took the photo from a specific angle where it didn't show up. If it really bothers you ebay will gladly completely fuck over a seller and refund your money stuff if you say so. Please for the love of god don't try to polish the case with a dremel, and if you try to polish the crystal I hope you realize that it has an AR coating which you're going to remove (or it should if the crystal is original).
Tips to keep time? Aside from 900 dollar service this thing loses time like no tomorrow.
It's an expensive complicated machine and if you can't afford the upkeep then sell it and get something cheap and quartz. It's only going to get worse if you keep wearing it without servicing until eventually you wear it down to the point where it's going to take much more than a basic service to fix it. Do you change the oil in your car?
Whoa, whoa, I'd like to keep it (from my father), there must be some humanly possible way for one to tune it himself, there are risks but whatever even in parts it's probably worth a lot.
Yeah you could go to watchmaker school, I guess. If you're trying to poke around and do it yourself I wouldn't start out by disassembling your heirloom Rolex, that's for sure. Rolex absolutely does not sell parts outside of authorized service centers anyway, they clamp down hard to make sure they can gouge you for servicing costs years after they've gouged you with the purchase price.
Nah nigga. Wtf its low speed dremel, Ive done this on watches multiple times and it comes out looking great, also the dremel is to remove material(ie dings), final polish is by hand. Also Im just gonna press in a new crystal when I get it from cousins. Ive done this before so dont worry. Gonna post again when Im done.
I can't believe you would completely ruin a vintage watch like that, kill yourself
I almost kinda like this repainted dial, but holy shit the guy wants 900$ for it. I could get a more original omega in good condition for that I'm sure
So what, you want to service it yourself and replace the parts with fake Chinese shit or what? Why don't you just keep the watch safe in your drawer and buy yourself a fake and wear that instead if you're just going to ruin the real one?
Look, as we've told you before your only options are to pay to have it serviced or sell it. If you try to mess with it yourself, you'll wreck it. If you keep wearing it, you'll wreck it. Put up or shut up.
>polishing a watch
>polishing a grammar of design Seiko with sharp faceted edges and unique surface finishes that can't be replicated once you polish it off
>using power tools to polish a watch
Enjoy your smoothed out rounded lump that used to be a watch, at least it'll be shiny. I'd take scratches over a polished case any day.
So even if i go to a random watch dealer and get it serviced they'll put fake parts inside of it, or possibly spoil it? Oh well, im keeping it as a statue now.
What's a good heirloom watch that doesn't need heavy servicing in the future for investment?
Enjoy ruining the unique finish of your watch.
>power tool polish
You guys cant even read? Also the sharp edges are easy to do wtf never heard of files, or sandpaper in 2k grit? Or tape?
W/e this board is stupid, you know shit about actual watches and watchmaking.
There's absolutely no way you'll be able to replicate the finish of the original case. You'll end up with some basic brushed or polished finish, it'll look shit, especially if you've still got the original bracelet which has the unique finish too.
It also has the advantage of not looking like dogshit.
Of course! If there's water on the crystal it's raining, if there's snow it's snowing, and the metal band tells the temperature!
>he fell for the seiko meme
>he fell for the mechanical jew
If the watch is worse less than $1000, it better not be mechanical unless you like being robbed of your money.
Alright, I have a weird predicament
I can not decide between these watches (Max bill, Melbourne portsea, and Steinhart titanium:
Which one should I get?
The price of the Canadian dollar helped me to order a vintage accutron for $140.
>You could have gotten an orient flieger for not much more.
Those are go for twice to four times the price here, but thanks and I'll keep it in mind. I'm sure this door won't close.
Look what came today, /g/.
I'm a bit underwhelmed, desu. It is nice and thin, but it wears a bit larger than I would like given that it's all face.