I would wait for the 2nd generation of the stick or even for the new Cedar City stick which will have way better specs. They'll probably improve cooling too.
Still, it's a functional PC for 100 bucks, and you get the Windows license included. It's dirt cheap, considering it's made by Intel and not the chink version. The chink version doesn't even have cooling. The intel version has a small fan inside the stick.
>>52469142 I'll still buy one and then make a custom heatsink for it with aluminum to avoid overheating. It should be pretty good for emulating games and using as a mini server or maybe even for hosting games since the newer atoms are very good.
>>52469806 >>52469666 It's the outside of the case that gets hot. Internal parts are hotter, which alone is normal and acceptable. If your desktop case or your dashboard got that hot, you'd have a problem.
>>52470130 Neither, I would actually do that You're on /g/, why can't you mod some simple hardware to be cooler? I mod my hardware all the time, right now I'm planning on sticking some 0.1W LEDs in my case to make it look cool. Heatsink isn't a big deal m8, it's literally a block of metal with a fan, or maybe even water cooled
Man, I can't wait for the Core M models. Those will be lil beasts. Can you imagine an actually functional PC with Core M cpu that you can carry in your pocket? That's basically a notebook CPU. The cooling does seem problematic though. With so much computing power crammed into such a small footprint, I wonder how they will cool down a Core M on the small thing.
if they had this as some sort of dock rather than sticking it directly into the monitor I feel it would work better. Said dock could have all the inputs and outputs that way you could simply swap out the drives to different ones or use them in parallel even.
Well it seems the Wifi and the GPU have improved significantly. It has HEVC support now even.
You shouldn't expect much for something priced at 159 bucks, though. You get what you paid for.
Maybe that's less clear on the basic Cherry trail model. But check out the Core M models, priced from 300 bucks up to 500 bucks. It's already NUC territory. At that price point, you'd be hard-pressed to justify buying this, when a NUC is much better for the same price. The only advantage would be the smaller footprint, but what you gain by that is much less significant, compared to how much you lose in computing power, imo.
So probably, the cheaper model is the only one with a real use case for home users. The higher priced ones only make sense for businesses, the price/performance is just not competitive compared to NUCs.
>>52470082 >It's the outside of the case that gets hot. Internal parts are hotter, which alone is normal and acceptable. If your desktop case or your dashboard got that hot, you'd have a problem.
My desktop case is not mere millimeters away from my processor and used for dissipating heat. The outside of the compute stick IS millimeters away from my processor, and IS used for dissipating heat. The dashboard of my car is far away from the heat generating part, as it's meant to be interacted with and touched while my car is in use. The outside of the compute stick is CLOSE to the heat generating part, and is not meant to be interacted with and touched while the computer is in use.
It's not fucking rocket surgery, anon. It's hot because it's being used as a heat dissipating surface for the processor. It's being used as a heat dissipating surface for the processor, because Intel doesn't expect you to grab the motherfucker while you're in the middle of using it, the same way Toyota doesn't expect you to just slap the side of your face up against the engine block after getting off the highway. Seriously. What reason do you have to touching something in the back of your TV/Monitor while you're using it?
>>52471062 >"The eMMC capacity is only 32GB and the RAM is only 2GB - two aspects that have an artificial limitation imposed on them by Intel's decision to pre-install Windows 10 Home. Even though the information is not public, it is likely that Microsoft mandates neutering of a PC's hardware specifications in exchange for a lower price for the Windows 10 OEM license."
I have one of those Android-on-a-sticks and it only gets warm at most. Then again, it's running a low power SoC. And cost $50 Canadian. But it can still play 1080p video and emulate shit, which is probably what anyone would want to do with these things anyway.
>>52472968 I assume that was done by Intel because Linux is known to be able to run on fewer resources than Windows.
So, if they saw an opportunity to cut costs and sell an even cheaper version with Linux, they took it.
But anyway, now you can get one of these sticks with no pre-installed OS from the Core M models, even though, they cost a lot more, because of 4GB RAM, Core M cpu and 64GB storage. The prices are kind of edging too close to NUCs to be worth it, though.
I think at this point, still the cheapest Atom-based stick makes sense for most users. The Core M ones cost too much to justify not getting something better for the price. Maybe for businesses.
>>52473094 My folks use an old laptop as their daily driver. We're talking about an 11 year old laptop with not even 1GB of RAM.
I think this stick might be enough for them. They're just browsing the web, playing card games and maybe watching some video on the web. For 150 bucks it's a steal. And they could use it on the TV or any hdmi monitor.
It makes a lot of sense for basic computing needs that don't need to take much space in your living room or office.
>>52473420 I don't see my folks using a tablet. They still need a PC, but I don't think a NUC is justitied either for what they use it for. Just daily web browsing, solitaire games etc. This stick should be more than enough for them. I mean the 150 $ model.
>>52470833 Why can't you grasp that it's not acceptable for something that's meant to be touched to get this hot? The only purpose of having a computer in this form factor is for portability reasons, but it's not terribly portable if it burns you when you need to unplug it.
>>52469631 >>52469177 This is true. One of my profs told us that humans don't feel temperature, they feel heat transfer. Imagine you have a piece of wood, and a piece of copper, both of them in a fridge at 5C. After waiting for them to both cool down to the same temp, you grab both. Which feels colder, the wood or the copper? Obviously the copper right? But they're both at 5C! It's because copper has a higher thermal conductivity than the wood, the heat from your skin is drawn into the copper faster than it is into the wood.
...The purpose of having a computer in that form factor is to not have a box, big or small, connected to your TV/Monitor. If it was meant to be portable, it'd have a screen and battery (and input method like a touch sensor on the screen). And we call those Tablets/Laptops. THOSE are for portability. This is meant to sit behind your TV and turn your TV into a computer. It's meant to plug into the back of a monitor and turn it into an "All-In-One" PC. It's design is for minimalism. Not portability. Like, would you seriously buy one of these to bring around? For what ungodly purpose? Seriously. I cannot think of a reason why you would bring this places. You'd still have to lug around a wireless keyboard/mouse, and power supply/cable. It still completely defeats its own purpose if portability is it's goal. A fucking $100 tablet not only has a screen, battery, and input method, but if you want to plug it up to someone else's TV, you fucking can with a $5 cable. So you carry a table, and a cable. Versus a whole keyboard and other shit. Your autism is off the scale, holy fuck.
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