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Daily reminder that available RAM is wasted RAM.

>inb4 people with 32 GB of RAM complaining about a browser using 2.
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>>52440699
>B-but muh minimalism, muh bloat

But I mean if your browser is using 2 GB of RAM doing something like three pages, that probably is a problem.
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>>52440699
>tfw you want to buy 8gb more but the 8 you have is already enough
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> what is caching
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I want to add 8 GB for a total of 16 to add a RAM disk. Not sure what I'd be using it for, though. A VM?

My memory usage with nothing running is ~25%; ~45% with some stuff running, ~75-85% when gayming. Only a single "nearly out of RAM" warning ever.
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>>52440699
The problem is memory leaks make your browser slow no matter how much more free ram you have.
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>>52440759
>tfw upgrading your pc is getting more and more useless because nothing demands more power anymore
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>>52440777

/thread
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>>52440699
> tfw need 8 GB to run a terminal
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>>52440803
>>52440759

how about you get a real job fags
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>>52440699
I have a lot of wasted RAM then.
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With DDR4 prices falling as of late, it makes me want to get 32GB for a near-future build, I do all sorts of heavy processing but have a feeling 16GB might be enough.
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>>52441015
>Speed: 1333MHz
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I know this is bait and all but seriously this fucking
>If you aren't spending 3 GB of your RAM on animating a bloated JS facebook like button you're wasting it!
shitposting by gamer pleb redditors trying to rationalize their mindless consumption needs to end.
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>>52441005
What are you talking about? I have the money to spend, there's just no point in doing it.
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>>52441099
Your post is retarded.
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>>52440803
>he can't think of shit which would use it
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>>52440699

4GB of memory ought to be enough for anybody.
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>Heatsinks on ram sticks
When will this meme die
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>sometimes you know, 4GB is just not enough.
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>>52440699

Which is why superior El Capitan makes use of almost all the memory at all times. No memory is wasted in OSX.
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>>52441222
It's certainly enough for shitposting.
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>>52441313
b8/10

But someone's going to give it a serious reply anyways.
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>That feel when only 2GB RAM
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>>52441141
There's nothing retarded about wanting to use your RAM on something that actually needs it, family.
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Not really because then the OS starts caching and everything runs like shit.
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>>52441259
When it stops printing money for companies
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>>52441293
God forbid people see your username
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>>52441434
Then why is the ricer ram always cheaper than non-ricer ram?
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tfw only 8 gigs of 1600 mhz ddr3
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>>52441452

Because if it's cheap a lot more people will buy it?
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>>52441399
Buy more then, you asshowel.
DDR2 can be found at garbage bins pretty much
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>>52441352
>It's certainly enough for shitposting.

You need much less for that
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I keep topping out at 7.8GB ram and my computer is having trouble functioning, feels like it's going to crash any moment. Is it finally the year of 16GB ram?
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>>52441606
I forgot to mention I randomly found out my C: SSD was almost filled up for no reason. I found out the rest of my free space was filled up by page file, so I guess the lack of ram is shredding my SSD life span.
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>>52441621
You deserve it for not taking steps to prolong the life of the drive immediately after installation
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>>52440699
This>>52440793
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>>52441621
anon, the page file is usually set equal to your total RAM + 300MB, increasing your system RAM will thus increase your page file proportionally.

You could disable paging, but it's actually an important function in any OS, and will reduce system stability if you do disable it. The ideal case is simply to have a separate scratch disk for your page and hibernation files; many productivity programs let you assign scratch disks too.
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>>52440803
You can even get by with a 12+ year old >3GHz 800MHz FSB Pentium 4 with 3GiB of RAM if you don't need new games or other resource-hungry programs.
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>>52440699
>people with 32 GB of RAM complaining about a browser using 2.
Are you saying to me abandon firefox and join Google Chrome(tm)?
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>>52441740
>the page file is usually set equal to your total RAM + 300MB

The recommedation used to be 1.5 to 3 time the physical RAM present.
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>>52441740
The utility I was using that graphs out what directories and files are taking up the most space said my pagefile on C: was 13GB or some shit. Is it wrong? Should I change anything?
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>>52441746
Shit I don't know, my grandma's Pentium D 915 is getting pretty long in the teeth. But it's probably more because it's running an ancient original XP media center install that's been beaten to shit by two rather tech illiterate owners now.
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>>52441413
that's true, but nowadays anyone can afford enough RAM so that the shit that actually needs it will always have it anyway, and the shit that doesn't will get it too just because there's so much of it to go around.
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>>52441773
I know, this is simply the Windows default allocation, although it may vary. It was probably a good idea to set a bigger allocation in ye olde days when you ran out of RAM all the fucking time, but computers rarely will now.

>>52441776
Just because it's there doesn't mean it is doing anything. Usually the page just sits as an empty partition waiting to accept data if you run out of memory, but even my 8GB system rarely pages data when working with various programs and big documents in Photoshop. I'd say leave it just in case, disabling hibernation is safer and also frees up your RAM's worth of space on disk.
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I've got 16 GB of ram and it's not uncommon at all for me to be using 7-8 of it.

The only time I go over 8 is if I'm doing FEA in SolidWorks or something.
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>>52441040
Gains from 1333 to 1600 are minimal. Gains above 1600 are pretty much nonexistent with how loose the timing needs to be.
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have a look at preload
it caches libraries used by software to make things launch faster.
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>>52441976
http://www.overclock.net/t/1586767/digital-foundry-memory-overclocking-and-how-it-affects-fps-in-8-different-games

B
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F
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>>52441040
>RAM speed is judged by clock rate
I want /v/ to leave
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>>52442055
>>/v/

Not everyone plays games you know
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>>52441797
If you do a fresh reinstall of XP and avoid JavaScript-heavy websites, it should work very well for any daily tasks.
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>>52440699
That's some beautiful ram right there.
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>>52440777
>> what is caching
What is cha-ching, is more like it.
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>>52442460
That translates to even bigger performance differences in real world applications you fucking mouthbreather.
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tfw 512gb ECC ram in sixteen 32gb lenovo RDIMM's

fucking casuals
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>>52441444
that's why i used a radial blur filter on the username

/thread
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>>52441293
>Worried about 4chan
>Spreads his cheeks for Windows
Get out!
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>unused cpu cycles are wasted cpu cycles
>unused ram is wasted ram
>unused hdd space is wasted hdd space
so is that why all software these days is so bloated?
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>>52440699
i had 8 in 2012, it wasn't enough.
i have 16 now, it wont be enough by 2018.


The standard should be 128gb.
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>>52440803

what a tragedy
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>>52440699
>available RAM is wasted RAM
shit meme
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>>52441413
Maybe if you haven't noticed but ram allocation is dynamic. Thus your statement is retarded.
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get fkd 8GB master race
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>tfw bought a 2011 macbook air for 50 bucks
>forever doomed to 2gb

To be honest it's not too bad though.
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>Daily reminder that available RAM is wasted RAM.

I'm going to write an operating system that uses all RAM at all times. Have fun trying to open any programs or do anything, OP.
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>lurking in >100 threads
>have 3 eve clients open
>playing tf2, have minecraft and ksp open in background
>all while being above 60fps on good settings
it's the best feling
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>>52444587
I guess you would be able to relate to something that just sits there and does nothing but wastes resources, huh?
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>not buying generic DDR4 RAM and overclocking it for maximum speeds
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The more the better tbqh senpai.
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>>52444808
>overclocking RAM
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>>52444736
if your OS is able to release ram as it's needed then I see no problem with it.
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>>52440699
ram disk
caching
will be usable for years to come in multiple builds.
Don't have to restrict yourself just to pretend you don't need it.

So tell me OP, how poor are you?
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>>52440803
Volunteer your time to a worthwhile cause, you faggot.
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>>52440699
Has someone already posted the meme lie that OSes report the cached RAM as used ram?
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>>52441015
why the fuck are you running 384 chrome tabs parjeet
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my x220 was shipped with 6GB

>I'll never go over 2GB
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>>52441036
I wonder how much that pup squats?
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samsung ram cache eats up 4 gigs. ramdisk can be pretty useful.

Idk, I feel you can really use up a shit load of ram if you really wanted to.
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>>52442055
That really seems significant. 6 to 18 fps more. Unfortunately those website that do the test are shit and don't provide enough information on the hardware they use or don't test it on other CPUs for example.
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>>52443667
Real kek at mouth breather
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>>52440790
bought 8gb of ram because it was on sale for super cheap. nothing really uses it except poorly optimized games with memory leaks out the ass.
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>>52441106
He is implying that a "real job" would consume all available computing capacity you throw at it. Video processing, compiling, reporting, etc..
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>>52441889
The point of a generous swap allocation is that you can swap out all low-demand memory pages and use the freed memory for disk cache.

Putting high-demand memory pages on swap when running out of memory is always bad but better than a hard OOM crash.
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>>52447503
Pretty much, 18 fps is roughly the difference between a $400 gpu and a $700 one.

But people keep cheaping out and want to save that $20.
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Linux caches unused RAM to speed up disk I/O and program loading.
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>>52449496
Windows does too.
It's not reported as RAM usage though. In the right tools it's declared as cached.
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>>52449290
>$400
>$700
>$20 difference
um..
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>>52440793
This.

16gb of 2133mhz DDR3 here, once waterfox hits 3gb it's a pile of shit despite more or less 10gb being left.
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>>52449640
Learn reading comprehension you dumb fuck
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>>52449661
Firefox is 32bit so it run out of ram by 3.2gb. Try other browsers.
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>>52447503
>Unfortunately those website that do the test are shit and don't provide enough information on the hardware they use or don't test it on other CPUs for example.

You hit the nail on the head, Skylake is the only recent CPU architecture that benefits somewhat from increased memory speeds (not counting APUs), but if you have something older there will be zero difference. Just get the cheapest RAM then.
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>>52441444
>Posting on an anonymous site
>Showing your username
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>>52449735
Firefox has a x64 version
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It's not the price or power consumption that bugs me with todays application but it's the potential wasted (they could do so much more if the devs weren't hipsters who use javascript for everything)
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>>52440699

>Using inb4 on the first post

The lowest form of troll.
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How does this make you feel Jamal?
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Another day, another fucking idiot who doesn't know how cache works.
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Not having 128GB gaming approved RAM.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231853
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>>52453045
>128GB
>not ECC
shiggy my diggy familia
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>You don't need more than 8 GB anon
>Considering ordering another 32 GB
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>this thread

>>>/v/
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